I haven’t been this excited for an engine in a long time I really want to get my hands on 1 hopefully this engine will be the hart for a drag car projects I plan to build in the next 3-4 years
I agree. I just build a 302 based 331 (technically 332 stroker, 0.030 over 3.25” stroke SBF. I haven’t tallied it up, but between machine work, hot tank, magnaflux, bore 30 over, torque plate hone, line hone, and a balance job on the Scat rotating assembly, Mahle pistons, new intake, new carb, new cam, new link bar lifters, new pushrods, new roller rockers, new blueprint cylinder heads, new billet distributor, new coil, and all the work on my part, that $7500.00 price tag seems a great deal. The 7.3 would be nice in my 1980 Bronco, but the motor I built is pretty quick and I really enjoyed the process. Anybody know how much they’re selling the transmission that bolts up to the 7.3?
yea, FINALLY after 20 years!!!!!!!!!! AND after it set the industry standard both stock and swap plus aftermarkets and Holley based so many products around the LS.
So pumped for this! I refused to go ls in my Notch but those ridiculous coyotes are so expensive compared to anything else I wasn’t going that route either. But this is a solid option
My 03 Terminator has been sitting for a couple of years now. In a couple more years I'll be able to buy a complete 7.3 blower motor with wiring harness. Hell, there'll be even more room to work on the 7.3 considering how wide those damn Mod motors are. That'll give new meaning to *Terminator!*
I'm sticking with two nicknames 1.) "Son of 460" [the sound of it reminds of the 460 monster...like Godzilla when he's growling and stomping. 2.) A badge on the Tremor that read; "7.3" or "445 C.I.D" I guess putting "7.3" may create confusion...so, I'd go with "445 C.I.D" on the side somewhere. There's that big vent looking thing (like a lot of cars do). *The most famous being the old classic Buicks (in my opinion anyway).
Amen to that! Enough with these worldly “CAFE” standards and keeping up with the Jones and worrying what BMW and Mercedes are doing. We’re AMERICANS, and we should build American engines! DOHCs and 4 FREAKIN VALVES PER CYLINDER! Jesus enough already! And 2 valve LS heads flow the same numbers. Unreal. They need to let Godzilla kill that damn coyote and drop this engine into a mustang and give the GT another V8 again like what’s deserved of it... THIS V8! WAKE UP, FORD!
@@cammer68oliver2 I know I can't wait to get back to 460 CI Ford big blocks getting 10MPG, the good ole days. The Coyote already make more HP per CI than the LS. Leave the truck motors in the trucks. BTW the best flowing heads are Ford Yates/Cleveland heads. Put a set on this new truck engine and maybe you got something better.
Cammer68 Oliver just because you’re more partial to the pushrod motors doesn’t mean ford needs to discontinue the coyote engine,coyotes are great engines! And as you can see they’re outdoing Germans in their own design
Alex Flores or however you spell his name from Lund racing talked so much trash about this engine. But palm beach dyno is getting on board, ken picked one up to start building and playing with. I’m glad atleast the 7.3L is gaining traction with some of these companies and builders.
Alex is complete clown shoes now he's going to have to tune them in mustangs to pay his bills lol. How he has a job as a Ford tuner is beyond me shit must be easy if a clown like him still has a job.
SUB SHOOTING 84 because it’s a pushrod engine lol. Like me he’s a coyote guy and us coyote guys found it funny that people legit thought the Godzilla was going to replace the coyote in the mustang
KG : well ..in 1979, Cotton Perry and Hedrick had 900 thou lift on the lump port 292 in line GMC six they raced in NHRA. The way Mr Wolfe got it is via aftermarket Jessl rocker gear. It is a canted valve engine. The 335 heads have been into the 900s for many years tho'.
This is great news for the Ford community I'm putting one in my foxbody soon as cams and computers are available hopefully there available by Christmas.
@@christopheraugustine5816 no I ended up going with a 427 Windsor for my Fox because there Isn't a lot of support for the engine yet or performance parts currently. I'm sure it will be a great powerplant in the future I just didn't want to wait for the aftermarket to catch up.
WhispR Not to mention diesels make there torque way low rpm range.You throw a blower or even just a cam the torque is going to be made in mid to upper rpm range specially with a blower so your looking at 5,6,7,8th gears in the power range instead of the first 4 gears.
@@steveyork8069 5,6,7 and 8 speeds will not be needed with that trans behind this engine because the trans will explode on the 1-2 shift when thrown any rpm at all. Also torque curves can be moved around when plotted on a graph but always always always torque and horsepower are Exactly equal at 5250rpm no matter What the make of V8 engine it is. And wifh that said torque is always on the downslope of its curve past 5250 as horsepower increases...which makes sense since horsepower IS a measurement of torque over time
This motor is going to make Coyote fans weep. 800+ hp n/a? and we haven't even gotten into overbored or stroked combos, aftermarket heads, turbos... it's going to get ugly.
Marc B from what I understand because of the design it’s a compact engine and not much room to bore and stroke. I’ve heard at most like 490 cubic inches. I’m also not sure what ford has done for liners but if they’re the laser arced liners or whatever ford calls them there’s not much you can do with them.
@@hpkntnw its a cast iron block, no liners, not sure who told you 490 and what they did to get that, would be curious of the details you/they are thinking.
Having built a smallblock 87 Ranger I gotta say, prepare yourself for firewall and trans tunnel surgery, and possibly a rear mount radiator.. Let alone frame rail work, custom headers. Might as well go to a custom K member too. Then there's the rear suspension and putting that power to the ground successfully.. I do love my Rangers though. I'd love to see a 7.3 in a first gen like mine.
@@Bird76Mojo76 It will be hard to say regarding the firewall and tunnel, it might fit there. The length is not bad, and the crate version is going to be offered with a power pack (ECU) calibrated for automatics or manuals, so one could pick a small(er) manual. I do not think there is any way it will fit height wise without cutting the hood on an early Ranger, and the TIB suspension may also pose a challenge. Then there is the steering shaft, or relocating the box. It will be pretty involved unless a person does not mind time with the plasma and cut off wheel and does not care to look stock.
@@christopheraugustine5816 That's why I mentioned a custom k-member. Something for a Mustang would fit nicely. Still, I seriously doubt they'll be enough room in a 1st gen Ranger for this engine, even with a k-member. The engine bay in my 1st gen is actually more roomy than my 2001 Ranger. I'd almost put money down that the firewall will have to be cut out as well as the trans tunnel. The frame rails themselves will also pose a problem due to the width of this engine.
@@Bird76Mojo76 RUclips just deleted my comment due to poor design, so I am going to try to hammer out this response without losing my cool. These experiences come from a 425 Olds in a first generation Ranger. The Olds is 29" long (31" with pulleys), the Godzilla is claimed at 30.5". The Olds is 26.5" wide, the Godzilla is claimed at 27.5". The Olds is 24" tall (31" to the air cleaner), the Godzilla is claimed at 30". The Oldsmobile presented a problem with the headers and the steering linkage, so the box is going to be moved. Too many joints were required at too sharp of angles for nice steering feel. The headers also had to pass through the side to side support for the back of the TIB radius arms. The firewall was only a problem from one exhaust header tube that was placed high. The frame was also cut slightly for the headers to pass through. As you might have put together, custom headers would have alleviated almost all of the problems. I still think the Godzilla will be high because of the intake they use, that claimed height seems low. Also, the pan shape is very different, and that may or may not affect the way it fits with the chassis. Doing a different cradle would surely help. Fender well headers would probably solve a ton as well. If (when?) you do it, post a video of it!
Until the aftermarket offers a solution, custom sheet metal intake or perhaps 3D printed plastic (high grade nylon?) at a minimum, then a standalone spark box, but that is just a different computer. So long as they make it dead simple to wire the crate engine harness, why not run EFI?
Hmm I’m definitely interested in the 7.3L for a street build in the next 3-4 years. I love ford but they don’t make any 4 door sport cars so I’ll be building me a Ford powered sedan. Just wait 🔥😉🧐!
@@MacGyver2154 HellYeah!! Mine's a 2011 6.2L. Forget the ecoboost that sounds & shifts like a crotch rocket! Forget the $106K RXT! Seems like a Godzilla with a lil work & a blower is where its at! These guys are doin phenomenal work wringing power outta this beast!
@@MacGyver2154 amen brother!! I like the Gen 1 better too!! Gen 2s are nice and all but i dont like the transformer look FoMoCo went after. Plus, modern vehicles are being built for folks that can't drive!😂🤣 Now, if we can get a Godzilla, Gen 1 with a manual 5 or 6 speed trans that'd be tits!!🤣👍
Ford has already teased the full on battery powered F150 but having that as your workhorse says to me fun with ye olde Big Blocks for retail. Diesels already pumping 1000 plus horsepower! That doesn't even include the Farm Tractor monsters! Makes the 1970s look quaint going on forever now. Anyhow "we ain't outta gas at all but swimming in it!" be the calling card of the 2020s decade..
I think due to the fact it a cast iron block I don’t think the block will move around as much and scrub the gaskets either. I did have the head off of one at our shop doing some warranty work on one. This engine looks amazing! We have head gasket issues on the the focus RS engine and the 2.3L eco boost. The machining is horrible on the block for an MLS gasket. The gasket never blew but would weep coolant and trigger a miss fire code. The machining on the 7.3L block and heads looked awesome. This is the only engine that I’ve been really hyped about in a like 20 yrs. the 6.2L looks really great but never really got traction.
Nelson Braganza : The versiona of the factory EECIV 460 werent any better than 0.54 due to the restrictive4bbl based intake manifold. The best comparison is to the best of the big 97mm bore spacing V12 Mercedes Benz M120 5987 and 7291 cc engines. The 3 valve per cylinder 408 hp at 5200 600SE, and the stroked out Zonda made 555 hp at 5900 rpm. The quad cam 5986 cc CLK-GTR, 600 hp at 7000 rpm with a mandated Holley 500 cfm style twin 1.38 " restrictor plate. Those engines made class wining BSFC figures. I smile when I see M137, M275, M285 and ME 4-12 beating 850 hp figures coming out with just a factory Ford small block engine and head castings. I think youll find better than 0.48. Its got very little drag on that crank, low parasitc losses because its a V8, and high mechanical efficency because its OHV. And dont forget...Brian Wolfe oversaw the F9R Yates Roush NASAR engine development and team supprt, which is one the most efficient engines on earth, which was a custum engine which avoided racers having to perform 100 hours of machining work turning a Winsdor Cleveland plant rough machined block into a NASCAR winner. The Godzilla will be as good as the four bearing 3800-4100 Buick Series 2 V6, which had the best BSFC curve.
Like GM’s LS series engines, especially the 8.1 And yes, I know they’re pretty restricted stock but it’s still a reliable engine with the classic pushrod design. When modified, it’s numbers grow. Glad FORD improved on the same simple pushrod designed large displacement engine. I’m happy to see this as well as many others are too
@@HeyDude93gt Each manufacturer defines it differently, depending on how their business is structured. There is no "scientific" definition, or set dimensions that separate "big" and "small". Chevy small and big blocks are separated by bore spacing and deck height. Oldsmobile and Pontiac small and big blocks only have low and high decks, with all having the same bore spacing. Ford has built pushrod V8's in four different bore spacings, and their small blocks have four different deck heights.
It should be, I think you will be very happy knowing they are producing over 200K/year, and as it is new and the gas engine in the super duty and chassis vehicles, like for motor homes, I believe it will be produced for decades.
I never appreciated Ford engines.. well... the 302 and the Ca pursuit 428 aside... this is a good block. The pricing of the add-ons are making this guy rich. Understandable.. he is one of the first, spent for success. When and if I live long enough lol, if the bolt-ons and other parts come down due to competition and generous supply I will definitely do a build up with the 'Zilla'. Catch myself trying to think of a appropriate frame though... I like older stuff... even the heavy ones., any ideas? Maybe 700>< H.P. in a Princess T-bird? always liked those suicide doors.
There are some who want to go to the 7.3L gasser to save literally $10k and some front end weight over the diesel in the F250. Stage II heads with cam / pistons and rods (stock bottom) using Whipple and pulleys. Could we get diesel-like torque in the 700-900 ft lb range on pump gas? Diesel costs more at pump too - saving $ there.
@ Then the Gen 3 hemi is and the LS. All are within an eighth of an inch of bore spacing. When Dave Filipe called it as big block it was in comparison to the current Coyote which is 3.93 bore spacing.
I am also curious if he takes an interest. The 385 might be ancient tech, but for the amount of displacement you can pull from one he may still prefer it. The bore centers on this are much smaller, in order to make the outer package fit everything. It makes it taller but narrow and short length. I am sure that he will mess with them, but when it comes to the extreme end I suspect he will stay with the massive bore of the old engine.
I know your a Ford guy, if you've got any ideas im looking for information resources on the 1971 Torino 500 Springtime edition/Halo roof. I would appreciate any leads 👍
Ford is going to have to get realistic on pricing considering the world is literally littered with 4.6 and 5.4 and 4.6 Teksid all with proven track records for making big power and surviving at those levels. Pricing is coming down steadily on that stuff and its rock solid performing stuff. Also , we are getting the weight with this slug in there that we wont get with lets say the Teksid . Your average guy can throw together a 1000HP 4.6 and still have the dollars to play afterwards. So Ford better make it attractive in the price department to compete.
Everybody's talking about the LS, The Coyote, and this Godzilla...And here I am with 2v Ford Modular kind of money...How many people can afford a built engine from those top picks right now anyways?
This coyote and LS are available with high mileage fairly cheep, and I totally get you have to work with the budget you have. But there are a lot of people building LS's and Coyotes. This one will be some time till you can get one under $1500 from a salvage yard.
MichXJdad twin turbos would be better for this engine this big it would need a massive single turbo 110mm + and to get that big of a turbo up to temp would take a while you would also fight back pressure issues and lack of room to fit that big of a turbo it would make more sense to run 2 88mm turbos you will have less back pressure issues less lag way more Response from turbos and it still would be capable of flowing over 2000 hp + worth of airflow from the 2 turbos now if it was a 4 cyl or an inline 6 I would go single turbo so you have all the exhaust flow from all 4 or 6 cylinder helping spool the turbo faster with this engine being 3.65 Litres per cylinder bank with a total of 7.3l that a lot of displacement for 1 turbo
Chad Kent oh 100% the supercharger will never flow as much air as turbos and never be able to 100% maximize the engines full potential I would love to see what an old school blow would do on this engine tho the Australian would probably love it for all the torque for there burnout cars
MichXJdad this engine would flow a hell of a lot more than a windsor the engine can go over 900 lift on the cam that massively bigger than any windsor and the exhaust and intake ports are way bigger that any head for a Windsor and the valves are way bigger
We are going to have some butt hurt LS fanboys with this engine. I'm using these vids as guide plans for the 7.3 I'm going to put in my Fox Body. Keep us up to date with new Team-Z components for the 7.3. Thanks for the awesome videos.
Brian Wolfe thanks for info. Just wondering because I machine that block in Windsor everyday. Nice to see and hear it on the dyno. Impressive numbers for naturally aspirated, can’t wait to see the HP on boost !!
Is this 444c.i. like the diesel? Im not a Ford guy but always liked the 444cubic inch moniker instead of "liters" which always remind me of big plastic bottles of coca cola
Huge opportunity for marine power plants with this engine
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As an anchor☺
I like the cast iron block. We all know what happens to aluminum in salty environments.😬
@@gothicpagan.666 haha i'm dyyyying!
no marine applications need to run at high rpm's for long periods
I haven’t been this excited for an engine in a long time I really want to get my hands on 1 hopefully this engine will be the hart for a drag car projects I plan to build in the next 3-4 years
This will fit perfectly in my 2005 Silverado!
Or my 2006 Ram 1500?
What's most impressive is these motors are available new from ford at $7.5k in the crate.
I agree. I just build a 302 based 331 (technically 332 stroker, 0.030 over 3.25” stroke SBF. I haven’t tallied it up, but between machine work, hot tank, magnaflux, bore 30 over, torque plate hone, line hone, and a balance job on the Scat rotating assembly, Mahle pistons, new intake, new carb, new cam, new link bar lifters, new pushrods, new roller rockers, new blueprint cylinder heads, new billet distributor, new coil, and all the work on my part, that $7500.00 price tag seems a great deal. The 7.3 would be nice in my 1980 Bronco, but the motor I built is pretty quick and I really enjoyed the process.
Anybody know how much they’re selling the transmission that bolts up to the 7.3?
Why bother with a 331? 363 has a better rod stroke ratio lot cheaper 20 % easily more hp and torque .
@@MrBlackbutang if its a stock block 302 then it can not fit a 363 stroker crank without additional machine work to the bottom of the cylinders
@@jcgamer892 no shitzer. Don’t bother with 302 at all wasted time ! Just like mewrongway said
@@WesternReloader the bell housing is the same as coyote so I’m sure most trans that fit coyotes would fit
One of these days my Excursion will be getting one of these....its good to see Ford put out something that will slap the shit out of the LS.
yea, FINALLY after 20 years!!!!!!!!!! AND after it set the industry standard both stock and swap plus aftermarkets and Holley based so many products around the LS.
We've had the coyote for almost 10 years now bud
Almost 10 years, and still slacking. Just like the diesel side. Been doing oil burners for 25 years, and Ford still sucks a nut out the sack.
@@mewrongwayKOCXF yeah you dream on.... an all motor coyote holds a world record for fastest N/A in a mustang. 8.47 @157....without a turbo.
I'll be doing the dream on now.....
So pumped for this! I refused to go ls in my
Notch but those ridiculous coyotes are so expensive compared to anything else I wasn’t going that route either. But this is a solid option
My 03 Terminator has been sitting for a couple of years now. In a couple more years I'll be able to buy a complete 7.3 blower motor with wiring harness. Hell, there'll be even more room to work on the 7.3 considering how wide those damn Mod motors are. That'll give new meaning to *Terminator!*
I'm sticking with two nicknames
1.) "Son of 460" [the sound of it reminds of the 460 monster...like Godzilla when he's growling and stomping.
2.) A badge on the Tremor that read; "7.3" or "445 C.I.D"
I guess putting "7.3" may create confusion...so, I'd go with "445 C.I.D" on the side somewhere. There's that big vent looking thing (like a lot of cars do). *The most famous being the old classic Buicks (in my opinion anyway).
So excited for this engine, can't wait to build something fun with it.
Amazing how small you can make an engine when you put the cam inside the block.
Welcome back home, Ford.
Amen to that! Enough with these worldly “CAFE” standards and keeping up with the Jones and worrying what BMW and Mercedes are doing. We’re AMERICANS, and we should build American engines! DOHCs and 4 FREAKIN VALVES PER CYLINDER! Jesus enough already! And 2 valve LS heads flow the same numbers. Unreal. They need to let Godzilla kill that damn coyote and drop this engine into a mustang and give the GT another V8 again like what’s deserved of it... THIS V8! WAKE UP, FORD!
@@cammer68oliver2 I know I can't wait to get back to 460 CI Ford big blocks getting 10MPG, the good ole days. The Coyote already make more HP per CI than the LS. Leave the truck motors in the trucks. BTW the best flowing heads are Ford Yates/Cleveland heads. Put a set on this new truck engine and maybe you got something better.
Cammer68 Oliver just because you’re more partial to the pushrod motors doesn’t mean ford needs to discontinue the coyote engine,coyotes are great engines! And as you can see they’re outdoing Germans in their own design
Cammer68 Oliver 😂 Such ignorance; Coyote is top dog of the Ford engines.
@@RSDX99 People who aim for big blocks don't care about MPG. You want MPG? Buy a hybrid.
Long live the large displacement pushrods.
Alex Flores or however you spell his name from Lund racing talked so much trash about this engine. But palm beach dyno is getting on board, ken picked one up to start building and playing with. I’m glad atleast the 7.3L is gaining traction with some of these companies and builders.
Got a link? Wondering what he don't like about this new motor.
Alex is complete clown shoes now he's going to have to tune them in mustangs to pay his bills lol. How he has a job as a Ford tuner is beyond me shit must be easy if a clown like him still has a job.
SUB SHOOTING 84 because it’s a pushrod engine lol. Like me he’s a coyote guy and us coyote guys found it funny that people legit thought the Godzilla was going to replace the coyote in the mustang
@@subshooting8414 The fact that the Coyote is better in every way
@@mauricecooper176 Like size, for example. 🐷
Did I just hear 0.900" lift cam?! 2:58 Impressive on stock castings
900 lift Charlie Westcott cam. Yeah!
That's what I heard 👂
Jeff Schwartz : The 999. 900 thou lift, 900 hp, and most likeky 9000 rpm capable. Its an Upside Down Beast.
Dean Stevenson I’m still trying to wrap my head around that lift with the stock castings
KG : well ..in 1979, Cotton Perry and Hedrick had 900 thou lift on the lump port 292 in line GMC six they raced in NHRA. The way Mr Wolfe got it is via aftermarket Jessl rocker gear. It is a canted valve engine. The 335 heads have been into the 900s for many years tho'.
How you just gonna skim over a .900" lift cam?
I was thinking the same thing!! Dude just said 900 like it's peanuts.
I want to swap a Godzilla into my Crown Victoria P7B
Love it man cant wait to see what this behemoth does!!!!
This is great news for the Ford community I'm putting one in my foxbody soon as cams and computers are available hopefully there available by Christmas.
Did you put in the order at your friendly dealer yet?
@@christopheraugustine5816 no I ended up going with a 427 Windsor for my Fox because there Isn't a lot of support for the engine yet or performance parts currently. I'm sure it will be a great powerplant in the future I just didn't want to wait for the aftermarket to catch up.
@@mattjonesturbo1 Still a good choice, do enjoy.
Killer content. Can’t wait to see that blown 7.3!
For the people that are thinking Super Duty upgraded(me)is anybody working on transmission upgrades to go with it?Ready for that blower video!🇺🇸💯👍
The 10spd is the same one in the diesel so its already a good starting point for holding the power. Diesel is 1000+torque
WhispR It’s the same as far as being 10speed the internals are managed different because of the major rpm difference so as I was told by a ford tech.?
WhispR Not to mention diesels make there torque way low rpm range.You throw a blower or even just a cam the torque is going to be made in mid to upper rpm range specially with a blower so your looking at 5,6,7,8th gears in the power range instead of the first 4 gears.
Steve York I didn’t know you could only use 1-4 at low rpm and 5-8 at mid to high rpm, that must be something new in the automotive world.
@@steveyork8069 5,6,7 and 8 speeds will not be needed with that trans behind this engine because the trans will explode on the 1-2 shift when thrown any rpm at all.
Also torque curves can be moved around when plotted on a graph but always always always torque and horsepower are Exactly equal at 5250rpm no matter What the make of V8 engine it is. And wifh that said torque is always on the downslope of its curve past 5250 as horsepower increases...which makes sense since horsepower IS a measurement of torque over time
Great upgrade from the 392 with our 9" Ford rear . No more broken stupid aluminum diff !
I hope these will wedge into an early mustang without cutting up the shock towers
close to the size of a WINDSOR SILL MY FAV
CORNYOTE 1 of RevanEvan’s previous vids he talked about how the footprint of the 7.3 wasn’t much bigger than the 5.0 Coyote...
Peter Friberg you mean the Windsor? From what I’ve read it’s 2” wider than a windsor and 4.5” narrower than a coyote
@Andrey Angere ruclips.net/video/pysUCYz4wlM/видео.html
Im ready to see what this monster can do ....🇺🇸
did i hear correctly? .900" lift cam?
yes
nuts
Sweet!
This motor is going to make Coyote fans weep. 800+ hp n/a? and we haven't even gotten into overbored or stroked combos, aftermarket heads, turbos... it's going to get ugly.
Marc B from what I understand because of the design it’s a compact engine and not much room to bore and stroke. I’ve heard at most like 490 cubic inches. I’m also not sure what ford has done for liners but if they’re the laser arced liners or whatever ford calls them there’s not much you can do with them.
it's built....
@@hpkntnw its a cast iron block, no liners, not sure who told you 490 and what they did to get that, would be curious of the details you/they are thinking.
Coyotes are fucking nasty still. And it's still a Ford haha. Trying to be a fanboy for the same brand?
Keyboard racers
When is the next dyno video coming out? I’m anxious to see what it can make with the whipple.
awesome video, only critique is can we get better than 480p?
Yup, used a new camera and had it setup wrong, that will be fixed on future videos.
I appreciate all the details. 😎👍
New sub. These videos are awesome so much knowledge and info! Keep them coming !
Thank you! Please pass the word.
This motor in an 83-11 Ranger would be badass. When will a conversion kit be ready????
Having built a smallblock 87 Ranger I gotta say, prepare yourself for firewall and trans tunnel surgery, and possibly a rear mount radiator.. Let alone frame rail work, custom headers. Might as well go to a custom K member too. Then there's the rear suspension and putting that power to the ground successfully.. I do love my Rangers though. I'd love to see a 7.3 in a first gen like mine.
@@Bird76Mojo76 It will be hard to say regarding the firewall and tunnel, it might fit there. The length is not bad, and the crate version is going to be offered with a power pack (ECU) calibrated for automatics or manuals, so one could pick a small(er) manual. I do not think there is any way it will fit height wise without cutting the hood on an early Ranger, and the TIB suspension may also pose a challenge. Then there is the steering shaft, or relocating the box. It will be pretty involved unless a person does not mind time with the plasma and cut off wheel and does not care to look stock.
@@christopheraugustine5816 That's why I mentioned a custom k-member. Something for a Mustang would fit nicely. Still, I seriously doubt they'll be enough room in a 1st gen Ranger for this engine, even with a k-member. The engine bay in my 1st gen is actually more roomy than my 2001 Ranger. I'd almost put money down that the firewall will have to be cut out as well as the trans tunnel. The frame rails themselves will also pose a problem due to the width of this engine.
@@Bird76Mojo76 RUclips just deleted my comment due to poor design, so I am going to try to hammer out this response without losing my cool.
These experiences come from a 425 Olds in a first generation Ranger.
The Olds is 29" long (31" with pulleys), the Godzilla is claimed at 30.5".
The Olds is 26.5" wide, the Godzilla is claimed at 27.5".
The Olds is 24" tall (31" to the air cleaner), the Godzilla is claimed at 30".
The Oldsmobile presented a problem with the headers and the steering linkage, so the box is going to be moved. Too many joints were required at too sharp of angles for nice steering feel. The headers also had to pass through the side to side support for the back of the TIB radius arms. The firewall was only a problem from one exhaust header tube that was placed high. The frame was also cut slightly for the headers to pass through. As you might have put together, custom headers would have alleviated almost all of the problems.
I still think the Godzilla will be high because of the intake they use, that claimed height seems low. Also, the pan shape is very different, and that may or may not affect the way it fits with the chassis. Doing a different cradle would surely help. Fender well headers would probably solve a ton as well. If (when?) you do it, post a video of it!
Pushrod engine may get some attention on the race track and the street again, for king of the street.😎💪🔥
😂🤣😂🤣😂 nice joke!
So what would you have to do to swap this into something without a computer?
Until the aftermarket offers a solution, custom sheet metal intake or perhaps 3D printed plastic (high grade nylon?) at a minimum, then a standalone spark box, but that is just a different computer. So long as they make it dead simple to wire the crate engine harness, why not run EFI?
great video
Thanks
I love it, dive head first into the 7.3 with early aftermarket support.
Hmm I’m definitely interested in the 7.3L for a street build in the next 3-4 years. I love ford but they don’t make any 4 door sport cars so I’ll be building me a Ford powered sedan. Just wait 🔥😉🧐!
Great video and information Evan & Brian, thank you!
Hmm, I wonder how well it might fit in my 02 Ranger... Lol!
Thank you.
I wouldn’t mind putting this in my 1996 Mustang
Imma put this bad boy in my F150 single cab 12th gen!
Curious to explore the option of puttin a 7.3L in a Gen 1 Raptor!👍
I have a early gen 1 with the 5.4, so yeah!
@@MacGyver2154 HellYeah!! Mine's a 2011 6.2L. Forget the ecoboost that sounds & shifts like a crotch rocket! Forget the $106K RXT! Seems like a Godzilla with a lil work & a blower is where its at! These guys are doin phenomenal work wringing power outta this beast!
@@daveslem4203 and IF the 2021 /2 actually Does have the 5.2, you know it's going to be 100k +. Gen 1 looks the best and it's the last SVT.
@@MacGyver2154 amen brother!! I like the Gen 1 better too!! Gen 2s are nice and all but i dont like the transformer look FoMoCo went after. Plus, modern vehicles are being built for folks that can't drive!😂🤣 Now, if we can get a Godzilla, Gen 1 with a manual 5 or 6 speed trans that'd be tits!!🤣👍
@@MacGyver2154 Do you have a raptor with the 5.4?
What would happen if you put longer pistons and brought the displacement down to 427? Would that create a short stroke high rpm engine?
Great video and thanks for sharing!!! I learned a lot.
Great video! Thanks for the info.
Should try to drop one of these in my 08 bullitt lmaoo
I really really want to put one of these in my moms 2018 ecoboost premium. It would make a pretty sweet sleeper.
Does OBR have an obd port to trick the Vermont inspection station?
Go , Brian Go !
Awesome !
Someone needs to put one in a pulling truck
Grooves between bores may be a problem with big boost/compression
Ford has already teased the full on battery powered F150 but having that as your workhorse says to me fun with ye olde Big Blocks for retail. Diesels already pumping 1000 plus horsepower! That doesn't even include the Farm Tractor monsters! Makes the 1970s look quaint going on forever now.
Anyhow "we ain't outta gas at all but swimming in it!" be the calling card of the 2020s decade..
This makes me wanna swap out my 460 in my f150
Same here for my '78 F250! But I just put in a built E4OD that this new 7.3 won't bolt to!
Robert Mann I have a 76 with a 390. I wanted to go the 6.7 powerstroke route but jesus. I’d much rather shove this into the engine bay.
Your stupid
Ford 390 rules 👍
Grooves between cylinder bores: What amount of boost are you guys concerned about that would blow head gaskets?
Time will tell, stay tunned....
I think due to the fact it a cast iron block I don’t think the block will move around as much and scrub the gaskets either. I did have the head off of one at our shop doing some warranty work on one. This engine looks amazing! We have head gasket issues on the the focus RS engine and the 2.3L eco boost. The machining is horrible on the block for an MLS gasket. The gasket never blew but would weep coolant and trigger a miss fire code. The machining on the 7.3L block and heads looked awesome. This is the only engine that I’ve been really hyped about in a like 20 yrs. the 6.2L looks really great but never really got traction.
how does the bsfc of this compare to an old school bbf? How much more efficient is it? Great video series btw thanks!
Nelson Braganza : The versiona of the factory EECIV 460 werent any better than 0.54 due to the restrictive4bbl based intake manifold. The best comparison is to the best of the big 97mm bore spacing V12 Mercedes Benz M120 5987 and 7291 cc engines. The 3 valve per cylinder 408 hp at 5200 600SE, and the stroked out Zonda made 555 hp at 5900 rpm. The quad cam 5986 cc CLK-GTR, 600 hp at 7000 rpm with a mandated Holley 500 cfm style twin 1.38 " restrictor plate. Those engines made class wining BSFC figures. I smile when I see M137, M275, M285 and ME 4-12 beating 850 hp figures coming out with just a factory Ford small block engine and head castings. I think youll find better than 0.48. Its got very little drag on that crank, low parasitc losses because its a V8, and high mechanical efficency because its OHV. And dont forget...Brian Wolfe oversaw the F9R Yates Roush NASAR engine development and team supprt, which is one the most efficient engines on earth, which was a custum engine which avoided racers having to perform 100 hours of machining work turning a Winsdor Cleveland plant rough machined block into a NASCAR winner. The Godzilla will be as good as the four bearing 3800-4100 Buick Series 2 V6, which had the best BSFC curve.
Like GM’s LS series engines, especially the 8.1 And yes, I know they’re pretty restricted stock but it’s still a reliable engine with the classic pushrod design. When modified, it’s numbers grow. Glad FORD improved on the same simple pushrod designed large displacement engine. I’m happy to see this as well as many others are too
The 8.1 was a big block, not an LS.
@@andyharman3022 Kinda sorta but not exactly true. But I know what you’re saying. Regardless of splitting hairs the 8.1 is a good engine
@@HeyDude93gt Not kinda sorta, Mark VI big block has no common dimensions to the LS series.
@@andyharman3022 I agree engine dimensions or displacement is irrelevant. So What’s a “Big Block” engine?
@@HeyDude93gt Each manufacturer defines it differently, depending on how their business is structured. There is no "scientific" definition, or set dimensions that separate "big" and "small". Chevy small and big blocks are separated by bore spacing and deck height. Oldsmobile and Pontiac small and big blocks only have low and high decks, with all having the same bore spacing. Ford has built pushrod V8's in four different bore spacings, and their small blocks have four different deck heights.
What transmission will interchange with the 7.3 Godzilla engine?
Nice!!
I'm gonna have the fastest RV in town.
Can we cook meth in it, out in the desert?
I just hope they produce this for the next decade so it’s not hard to find in a junk yard someday
It should be, I think you will be very happy knowing they are producing over 200K/year, and as it is new and the gas engine in the super duty and chassis vehicles, like for motor homes, I believe it will be produced for decades.
@@brianwolfe2993 Can you put in a word for them to remind them that the 385 production ran for 30 years? 30 of this would be great!
I never appreciated Ford engines.. well... the 302 and the Ca pursuit 428 aside... this is a good block. The pricing of the add-ons are making this guy rich. Understandable.. he is one of the first, spent for success. When and if I live long enough lol, if the bolt-ons and other parts come down due to competition and generous supply I will definitely do a build up with the 'Zilla'. Catch myself trying to think of a appropriate frame though... I like older stuff... even the heavy ones., any ideas? Maybe 700>< H.P. in a Princess T-bird? always liked those suicide doors.
Have you got in touch with Ken Block to see if he wants this in the Foxicorn, or whatever he is calling it?
Hoonifox I believe
There are some who want to go to the 7.3L gasser to save literally $10k and some front end weight over the diesel in the F250. Stage II heads with cam / pistons and rods (stock bottom) using Whipple and pulleys. Could we get diesel-like torque in the 700-900 ft lb range on pump gas? Diesel costs more at pump too - saving $ there.
Sooo are we considering this a SBF still or going off the engineering recognition that its a BBF?
Its a Small Block.
Plus-sized small block.
@ Then the Gen 3 hemi is and the LS. All are within an eighth of an inch of bore spacing. When Dave Filipe called it as big block it was in comparison to the current Coyote which is 3.93 bore spacing.
Brian you are a king
You are too kind, but there are a lot engine guys that do this and far more.
I curious what Kaase would come up with for this beast
I am also curious if he takes an interest. The 385 might be ancient tech, but for the amount of displacement you can pull from one he may still prefer it. The bore centers on this are much smaller, in order to make the outer package fit everything. It makes it taller but narrow and short length. I am sure that he will mess with them, but when it comes to the extreme end I suspect he will stay with the massive bore of the old engine.
Someday my 03 F150 4x4 gonna get an upgrade. 7.3 bit much but I wouldn't say no to it.
Do these engines have cast iron blocks?
I can't wait until Jon Kaase builds a couple of them.
How much would it cost to use the middle piston and rod setup for 800+ hp and how much is the Whipple charger?
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I know your a Ford guy, if you've got any ideas im looking for information resources on the 1971 Torino 500 Springtime edition/Halo roof. I would appreciate any leads 👍
Thank you for doing these. I love the info, but please get a microphone. The sound is not good.
Hard to get good audio in the tiny square box of a Dyno cell, but noted.
8000.00 for engine. 14000.00 for engine and complete control module (everything new) Let the fun begin!!!!
I’ve been wanting to see one of these in a foxbody
Check out Evan's other videos you will see they are going in, including this engine into a black coupe.
Ford is going to have to get realistic on pricing considering the world is literally littered with 4.6 and 5.4 and 4.6 Teksid all with proven track records for making big power and surviving at those levels. Pricing is coming down steadily on that stuff and its rock solid performing stuff. Also , we are getting the weight with this slug in there that we wont get with lets say the Teksid .
Your average guy can throw together a 1000HP 4.6 and still have the dollars to play afterwards.
So Ford better make it attractive in the price department to compete.
Mod motors suck. Torque-less slugs.
@@DS-ss396 Funny guy....... Hilarious....
how much money put into it at this point i wonder?
This is not an inexpensive build, but there is not a cheep competitive Ultra Street engine out there :)
Update?
More interested in you guys posting the torque curve & numbers.
Show me the dyno numbers, please
See previous video please.....
So much bad assery
How about custom plug wires, since apparently Ford has failed, in that area, with the 7.3?
Why is the 7.3 getting all of this attention while the 6.2 is completely overlooked?
This was my choice to do, you can do all you want with that engine. Would love to see how it works out.
The 6.2 had sort of a serious issue in the valvetrain design. Putting the lash adjuster at the valve end of the rocker arm limited its potential.
is it going in the red car?
Looking for a new edge mach 1 going to need a real strong manual transmission.
So much better than that electric appliance they ruined that CJ with.
Needs to go into a 2nd Gen Lightning
Yes!
Iam going to do exactly that, waiting for the Megamall create motor
Megazilla
This great content needs a better video resolution (and better audio please!)
Pro charger💯
They do have a kit and both belt drive and crank drive for this engine.
I imagine My p71 with that sound! 😎
Everybody's talking about the LS, The Coyote, and this Godzilla...And here I am with 2v Ford Modular kind of money...How many people can afford a built engine from those top picks right now anyways?
This coyote and LS are available with high mileage fairly cheep, and I totally get you have to work with the budget you have. But there are a lot of people building LS's and Coyotes. This one will be some time till you can get one under $1500 from a salvage yard.
I want to see what twin turbos will do on this
You read my mind. The ultimate power adder and the one mod that would wring out every last bit of whatever potential is in there.
MichXJdad twin turbos would be better for this engine this big it would need a massive single turbo 110mm + and to get that big of a turbo up to temp would take a while you would also fight back pressure issues and lack of room to fit that big of a turbo it would make more sense to run 2 88mm turbos you will have less back pressure issues less lag way more Response from turbos and it still would be capable of flowing over 2000 hp + worth of airflow from the 2 turbos now if it was a 4 cyl or an inline 6 I would go single turbo so you have all the exhaust flow from all 4 or 6 cylinder helping spool the turbo faster with this engine being 3.65 Litres per cylinder bank with a total of 7.3l that a lot of displacement for 1 turbo
Chad Kent oh 100% the supercharger will never flow as much air as turbos and never be able to 100% maximize the engines full potential I would love to see what an old school blow would do on this engine tho the Australian would probably love it for all the torque for there burnout cars
MichXJdad this engine would flow a hell of a lot more than a windsor the engine can go over 900 lift on the cam that massively bigger than any windsor and the exhaust and intake ports are way bigger that any head for a Windsor and the valves are way bigger
We are going to have some butt hurt LS fanboys with this engine. I'm using these vids as guide plans for the 7.3 I'm going to put in my Fox Body. Keep us up to date with new Team-Z components for the 7.3. Thanks for the awesome videos.
how is that lil CHAIN gonna hold up to 6/800 foot pounds of torque?
It doesn't have to. It's only driving the oil pump, not the entire car.
900 lift???
Can l get one shipped to Australian cheers Glenn
I do not see why not :)
Man, I wanna see how this blown engine does in front of that Mustang 10 speed auto!!!
I’d put this in my 2010 GT500 with a 6R80 and a whipple😈
.900 lift?!
Ok what’s the hp ???? That’s why I watched this !!!
Check out his earlier video., but to answer your question 790...
Brian Wolfe thanks for info. Just wondering because I machine that block in Windsor everyday. Nice to see and hear it on the dyno. Impressive numbers for naturally aspirated, can’t wait to see the HP on boost !!
I plan on replacing my 5.4 3v with one as soon as I can find one in the junk yard lol.
Good luck bro these are gunna be a dime a dozen.
All ford motors are junk you will have good luck finding them
Any chance in hell this bolts up to a C6?
No, this has the same bolt pattern as the Coyote/Modular.
Ehhh my LS was 300 bucks at the pick and pull and makes just as much power, when these engines get that price ilk gladly pick one up.
LS SHMELL S
Is this 444c.i. like the diesel?
Im not a Ford guy but always liked the 444cubic inch moniker instead of "liters" which always remind me of big plastic bottles of coca cola
No. It's a 445. Not a bit like the diesel.
480p? WTF?
I'm in for a 7.3 when that intake gets sets up for two clobberators. Because I'm a dinosaur. Much like Godzilla.