Went premium, my son turned 9 and wanted to get into the hobby, he swapped the flame Sargent for 10 intercessor. I'm having the chaos,guard,nid,cult, he's having the rest. Yes it's a bit pricey but he loves it and it's something for me and him to do.
I think the magazine is better for the hobbyist rather than the gamer. It would appeal to people who just want to collect and paint all kinds of different miniatures and factions
I consider myself a "Fun" player rather than a competitive player and so am happy to play games of - how will this group of figures act/play/perform against this group of figures and so dont pursue one perfect army like some "Serious" players do. I suppose i also fit into the hobbyist category.
The problem for example if you want to collect sm and tyranids which are from the leviathan box is that its still cheaper to buy the box. The magazine is good if you just want to pick odd ones for whats inside.
My lads just played his 3rd of 40k, he loved it. I told him oath of moment only works if he "shouts for the Emperor". He had sm cpt, 2x 5 flame marines, 5 terminators, 5 intercessors. I had mek, 3 x 20 grots, 3x kill kans. 1x dreadnought. It's been nice to see him talk about something other than mincraft.
I just love the painting and collecting side. Ive just begun playing the game with the miniatures ive accumulated over the years. These magazines let me try new faction i probably wouldnt have tried otherwise and give me varied painting projects. All at a lower cost. I sub'd premium and have had all magazines on time. Mega happy so far. Ive also topped up my nid army with extra issues in the shops. Which ill be looking to do again with other issues coming down the line
The premium magazine is a great way to build 2/3 really solid starter armies through kitbashing or allies. The first one is GSC, turning the guard into brood brothers and then buy a unit of pure strains. They can be used with either the GSC or tyranids. Which will get you 1490 points with brood brothers and the genestealers for GSC. Or 1000 points raw for tyranids. Next you build either world eaters or black legion (or your own Khorne leaning warband) all the big models like the Deamon prince, hellbrute, and mauler fiend can be run in either, the legionaries can be built as normal or made into extra bezerkers. Lastly the space marines can be turned to chaos making some chaos terminators with characters. The infernus can be made into extra legionaries using the spare weapons. The CSM army in particular when bolstered with the space marines and taking bezerkers as allies comes in at 1690 point! Or the world eaters gets to 1415 (not using any other infantry besides the terminator and the two csm characters being made into MoEs) realistically you could make extra bezerkers out of the legionaries and maybe the infernus marines but idk how many blades you have to go around and you’d run low on heads. But I’d just sell them and the terminator characters/havocks and put that money towards angron for when you want to move to 2k.
Regarding the delays, I signed up for the trial run and opted for the premium sub. I have received both the initial deliveries for the full run and am up to date so far.
It canny sad. Dan just received his. It looks like they didnt include him on the subscription as he was one of the first similar to you. They might of just missed you off the subscription list. Give them a call there support got it sorted
@WorHammer40k I rang them numerous times before I eventually received both issues 1 & 2 in the post. They told me, and I quote "They weren't expecting over 13,000 people to subscribe to Combat Patrol".
Honestly from a purely collecting and making models perspective I do want all nine armies. I’ve signed up got my first two magazines and got the models primed.
Just wish they would sell them to us in Scandinavia too (English ones are just fine). If we had them here I would go for the Premium deal and get all the nice extra models.
I’m definitely the target market for this. Returning to the hobby after 20ish years and always been more interested in collecting and painting than playing. A drip-feed of minis and paints every month without having to think about it is pretty much perfect for me 😊
@@WorHammer40k I'm considering selling one or both of the chaos armies once they are complete and either buying Tau or more of another army. The other thing I'm doing while subscribed to the magazine is not spending on other minis or hobby stuff. I could easily spend well over £50 a month on the hobby, so this bundles up that spend for me and delivers it to my door.
I'm just relieved the chaos didnt include nurgle which I got in the starter sets a couple of editions ago. Now I will have 3 Chaos armies and I'm not even a chaos fan 🙂 🙂 I too would have liked a Tau force
Years ago I had white dwarf subscriptions and the mailman would crease my magazine to put the rest of my mail inside like a taco. My luck they would find a way to fold this.
@@davidparker1508 you were not alone! Postmen in the uk also did that. Hard to fold the Combat Patrol deliveries so - barring the first shipment, they are sent out in batches of 4 issues.
So I'm the extremist with these things, built huge armies during imperium and doing the same here. I've got 3 premium subs, have a newsagent I've been ordering extras with since halfway through imperium, using this run as a chance to grab a bunch of basic troops for some factions I play and a couple I'm interested in. I subbed during the test run, they cancelled mine but luckily I caught it, thankfully hachette do have some really good eggs on their customer service team and they helped set it straight. I bought 39 copies of issue 1, not selling on any of them, I have my reasons. Will use this to replace my termagants for the new sculpts, bulk out my terminator army, build a cults and votann force and pickup some bits for 3 other factions I have.
Love to hear it, Dan contacted the customer support team the other day and they have also sorted him out right away which is great of Hachette. Buying 39 copies makes me wounder not why you bought that many but why you didnt round it up to 40 haha
I bought 3 of the 1st issue at WH Smith then subscribed with Hachette from EP2 and got EP3 free plus snips mould line scraper for a total of £6.99! Waiting for next delivery to arrive, no mention of it on my Hachette account😱
Ironically I’ve been seeing them in a bunch of local WHSmiths. I missed out on imperium so I’ve had to scour eBay for deals in order to bolster my Necron canoptek court. I was disappointed that combat patrol magazines have nothing for Necrons but it does make sense given how many imperium magazines were Necron focused.
Received my second delivery up to no 6, looking forward to the 3rd delivery which for me is due 27th of Oct, went for the premium which is fab value considering the price of these figures just on there own and looking forward to the GSC, Astra militarum and for me the Khorne box set , the rest my grandson will get.
Went with a premium sub, selling the Eldar at cost to a workmate, probably looking to trades the Squats for someone's Orks, 'Stealers or Guard down the line. In terms of extras, if I'm only wanting a few duplicates I'll try to source those at retail, if I want a decent amount I'll preorder the cap of 5 copies at Forbidden Planet and take the postage on the chin. Now that we know the Termagants are split across 4 magazines for the 20, which is terrible value compared to what on sprue fleshborer 'Gants can be picked up for right now, I've maybe overdone it with duplicate Leapers on issue 2 as I may end up just grabbing a couple of 40K starters for extra 'Gants. No real problem as the Leapers look to be holding a fifteen quid value so can move on extras of those. The Barbgaunts that aren't in the starter were well worth snagging extras though.
Great vid lads. I was talking to my partner earlier & she made a great point with regards to the weekly format, while its roughly the same cost as just buying q CP box, some people might not have £100 to drop on a box today, so in a way you could look at it like klarna. I've always thought its a good way to get a lot of minis, but not be overwhelmed by having so many unbuilt & unpainted sat on your shelf, so long as you can keep up a unit a week pace at least
As a hobbyist who has never thrown dice in a game of Warhammer its perfect for me. I wont particularly notice £50 leaving my account once a month and getting tons more plastic to sit in my cupboard unpainted for the next 20 years seems decent. I would love to actually play but I dont know anyone and my local game store isnt very local and the few times ive been in there they were very uninterested in having a conversation with me so its put me off going. My local games workshop is super friendly but it always seems to be filled with younger people so I dont want to be the 38 year old surrounded by spotty nerd teenagers.
@@Bish186 for collecting and painting it's perfect, aye. Where do you live, mate? Is there not a gaming club? They are often more friendly and welcoming. We have loads of 30-somethings coming into the hobby at our local club
Subscribed last Friday and the first 2 issues turned up yesterday, I actually assumed I would be waiting a while as I hadn't long had my last stormbringer so I thought they would come together, feel bad for those that have had problems, never had a problem with hachette myself, always been a fan of part works since collecting toy car mags as a kid And untill stormbringer finishes I now get to wonder what I'm going to open.... is it a man? Is it an ork? Is it an elf? A chaos monster? Fun times! ✌️😊
@@hamoostaffat ah the joys of a surprise parcel! Although if you live in the uk i believe stormbringer has now finished - not going to run to 90 issues
@@WorHammer40k I was a little late to the party, I'm only on 66/80 so far, depending how they send the last 2 I've got 3 or 4 more deliveries yet 😁 Not sure if it'll go 4 4 4 2 or 4 5 5 or 4 4 6, not sure yet I (selfishly) try to get people I meet into the game and these are great as a kind of toe in the water thing, I really liked that stormbringer took you from 1 mini fist fights upto full strategic battles with relative ease compared to past GW ventures, the "free" tools kind of feel like old 90s stock they never sold off though The combat patrol one though does seem more of a niche collection though for many reasons you guys stated, unless your the game club guy or the full blown addict that will buy anything just to expand the dust collectors this one doesn't seem as great as past collections, but with so many gods demanding so many souls how can I not obey and paint more plastic? 🤣
@@WorHammer40k lol, my next is the 25th Oct for issues 67-70, weird Maybe that means they give you about 3 or 4 months to subscribe before they stop new subs? 🤷♂️
In terms of who it's for: people who want to play Combat Patrol. GW are increasingly pushing this idea of "collecting wide or collecting deep" - you can have nine small Combat Patrols instead of one or two huge armies. You get more varied building and painting projects, don't need such a big table so easier to play at home, no list building so no pre-game prep is needed - I can just give someone a patrol and teach them it like any other board game. It's a smaller scale and whole other world to the gaming club / tournament scene but it's also the way huge numbers of people engage with the hobby, and GW finally delivering product aimed at this group is welcome. (rather than delivering product clearly meant as a "stepping stone"- the biggest cost of moving from a 500-point to 2000-point army is a bigger dining table!) For rules support, I'd note the rules will be in the magazines that come with the models! I'll be interested to see how they handle the extra mini in the magazine, but the partworks have always worked this way. They come with rules for playing the exact minis you get. They may not be the exact same as the core game, but you are able to play with them.
Grabbed 3 copies of the first issue for converting a chaplain and 3 x tryanid warriors. That's 150 quids worth so happy with that. I'll try and grab other things i need as it goes along
GW have been very slow in listening to the Community but do seem to be catching up. There does seem to still be a bit of disconnect, some things are still free and some get deleted when Codex gets released but we have seen positive steps.
I subscribed (with premium) when it opened in August and had both deliveries so far so up to issue 6. The second delivery (4th October) was just after issue 5 was in the shop so around 3 weeks into the 4-weekly release cycle. Not sure if that will stay the same but looking good so far. I have no plans to expand into full 40k (I prefer OPR skirmish-sized games and these can be used there) and want a selection of factions to try and attract friends into playing and to make solo more varied so 9 is a great match for me. I have also been enjoying painting so this is a great way to get a nice variety of different minis.
Each magazine has a game to play with that issues models. I do want all 9 it means i can have a game with people who dont play yet. And people have choices. Also i have things to paint. And i very much enjoy the painting side of the hobby. And i do like the paints and stuff. Ive learnt a fair bit from. It comes with all its own rules and i dont have to rule chase. I wont play normal 40k because the rules change far to fast to be played casually. This comes with game matts and reference cards with the actual stats on them. Ive been painting my infurnus marines and swapped out one of them for the sergeant. Im subbed to the premium. I do enjoy getting a selection of hobby supplies straight to my door. And i got tyrannic war book for free because i didnt get on the trial.
Seriously guys sign up again! I only signed up a week ago and have already received my first two issues, so I would definitely not trust that they signed you up if worse comes to worst you just get an extra two if you 1 and 2. I was a subscriber to one of their books subscriptions for transformers and they didn't put me over automatically from the trial period either. So now I didn't even sign up for the trial. Never trust what they say is it good rule of thumb So if anyone's in this situation sign up again
Can’t use the SM combat Arrow as a box for value going down, or Nids, as they are starter box items. You’ve got to look at the new boxes coming that are replacing old ones for other codexes
@@danscarfe7020 we made that point in the video, yes. Do you work for a company affiliated with Hachette, Dan? Seen you pop up to defend them on a few posts.
I subscribed through Hachette as I couldn't find them in shops and could still start at issue 1. I placed my subscription on 29/09 and got issue 2, clippers and mouldline remover for free and arrived on 09/10, with the next dispatch on 01/11, hopefully.
I already have more of these armies then are going to get combat patrols for these magazines. If I wanted to play that level of game I could see myself getting these as that point size game actually intrigues me.
Think this is the 5th Warhammer partwork. Youd have thought theyd have nailed the logistics of it by now? Think the omission of terrain is a mistake this time round too. I inow its not as popular as the main game, but a kill Team partwork would work great. Split a team over 2 issues, add terrain, and wallop
Good discussion chaps. Hadn’t considered the inconsistency between the models offered vs the actual combat patrol game mode. With the specials that some people sign up for to get the redemptor dreadnaught etc too; just not compatible with combat patrol - which is the name and point of the magazine. Marketing point I guess but what is on offer here is more than combat patrol. Interesting that they muddy the messaging in this way for new players. Cynically, it’s just about providing the additional eye catching models they hope people will plum for.
Something most people fail to realise is Newsagents only receive the first 4-5 issues of a new partwork on a SALE OR RETURN (or SOR) basis, where newsagents can return unsold magazines by a certain date after the publication date of the title after it's been on the shelf for a pre-set time. If it's returned before that cut off date, the newsagents gets credit that goes towards their magazine supplier bills, every magazine and collectors cards/stickers are under this form of selling, with the EXCEPTION of partworks, they stop being SOR after the first 5-10 issues (depending on the partwork). So Newsagents WON'T receive copies after that SOR period expire, now major Supermarkets and WH-Smiths don't have this restriction, so those are the places your more likely to find the partwork during it's entire run. As a result of the SOR limits, most newsagents won't get in issues for people to "Cherry Pick" what issues they want, as they CAN'T get credit back for those unwanted issues.
Very true, my guy gets in what I ask for, but I do pick up extra copies when people fail to pickup theirs, unless it's valuable, then I advise my newsagent to sell it on eBay, did that a lot with the OOP scenery in storm ringer, I just think it's fair.
Enjoying your guys content! Super new to 40 k. Got my first game of Combat patrol in last month, I've played 4 so far. I have 2 other friends who got into the game at the same time and 1 veteran player - the vet had all the units to form their combat patrol. It's convenient to get started and took a lot of the pain of learning every model in the army and trying to decide what is good and what isn't. It's been fun, but I'll admit I'm already ready to bump up to plain 500 point games. Having just 4-5 units doesn't feel good when two of them get wiped out by some bad dice rolls by turn 2. Then you're not really playing the missions at that point. My friend brought up boarding actions and I'm definitely interested. We were debating whether or not we would play next at 500 points with combat patrol rules or use big 40k rules - I think it should depend on what units we bring to the table. If all units have combat patrol rules then we agree to play by those ones but if any player takes a unit without combat patrol rules, we will play by the big 40k datasheets and can use combat patrol missions. I'm ready to step up to 1k already lol.
Its always fun stepping up the points. I sometimes find it hard to balance a 500 or 1k point game as some armies just simply do better at small point costs. Just keep the games to a point where its fair and fun because as you mentioned, if you loose 2 5ths of your army its even worse at 1k/2k games haha Boarding actions am really interested in learning/playing. Something different from the regular 40k games, means you can take a break from combat patrol whilst you wait for more models to come to build up your points!
Having watched warhammer from afar for many years have finally dived in due to this magazine. Absolutely distraught finding out there’s no Necrons in the set 😭 Great podcast regardless Subscribed
The worst thing for me is they've started with the 2 lowest value factions with models you could easily pick up elsewhere as the market is flooded with leviathan models. Not only that the units you could make savings on like the terminator squad are split over 2 mags. I bought 5 of the first mag as I wanted a load of the captain to make a unit of paladin and my son built a squad of tyrants warriors.
I WISH you got the whole Leviathan run.. the Sternguard and dread look lovely and would be good value. Even worse it's just the Starter Set units which are fine models but cheap as to split a box or Ebay.
Any prospective GSC players should be excited, it's said to be the older better combat patrol, so you can buy four copies of the relevant mags for maybe £160ish and get a decent 2k point army, maybe save more by avoiding multiple magos if possible.
I'm happy to have all the armies :-) One thing you didnt mention was that in the magazines they have mini scenarios, so you can, in principal be playing from the first issue, in the game style/rules presented in the magazine - whether that is compatible with the mainstream game or not?
I think on the one hand we need subscribers to keep it going.. but also subcription is a sucker's game, especially if you have Leviathan already or you don't want a ton of rubbish paint issues. If you go into Forbidden Planet in Newcastle they get tons of them in and usually get loads of restocks later on if you miss one. Travelling Man next door are doing it this year too. Another bonus is if you have a staff or student university card you can get 10% off all books and magazines. This includes the Hachette mags.
Ok so I signed up on the release date for the magazine. I had to do this because Hachette was asking out local bookshop to jump through more hoops behind the scenes to get an account set up for his business than any other publisher has ever had him do and by the release date they still hadnt sorted him out. Had to complain to customer support because my subscription wasnt processed after a few days. They told me they would do the first shipment mid October same as everyone fine I can wait. 4th comes around and I didnt know anything changed but a couple days later I checked the site just to see if anything had changed and found that on the 4th they processed my order of the first 2 issues. A week later they have not arrived. I am not confident I will see any issues at this rate.
Unfortunately, age of Sigmar has done a much better job with their version of combat patrol by adding special rules when purchasing a spearhead box which also has to be built as the units are pictured on the box. It also has a random event deck and comes with a double sided special board specifically for spearhead and each side represents two different realms, which I think is life and fire ? So depending on the mission and which side of the board, it tells you to use the spearhead rules include random special events that both players have to find ways to optimize their turn or get around any negative modifiers from the event deck. Also, for some reason, I feel like a spearhead boxes contain value because they seem to come with more content and they’re slightly cheaper compared to combat patrol. I remember when the new Necron combat patrol with the doom stalker with 10 Warriors, three scarabs swarms, three scorpion, destroyers, and an overlord with a tackyon arrow, which I still think needs a major glow up since the arrow can only be used once per turn only to have it completely blocked by a 4++, definitely something like devastating wounds or mortal wounds on a critical wound. What I find ironic is that GW said that they were staying away from vehicles and monsters and other potential centerpiece models in the new combat patrols yet the Necron patrol comes with a doom stalker..lol
Absolutely agree with you on rating boarding actions over combat patrol. Unfortunately the CP magazine content does not fit boarding actions well as it contains a lot of vehicles. Here one is actually better of by chosing new combat patrol boxes. For myself I will give it a hard pass speaking while running 11 armies. There is just no value added from miniature perspective for long time collectors despite a few issues which I would need in multiples. The concept is just already outdated before the magazine lands and by the time it finishes we are in 11th already.
I think games workshop have learned their lesson from the first 2 40k magazines after conquest no one needed to ever buy death guard ever again the same with imperium the necrons range most of it came in the magazine with this the way I can tell after issue 20 they will release a combat patrol over 10 issues with a bonus unit and a paint issue they might even extend it by 10 issues to give each faction a bonus unit
@@WorHammer40k It's looking like the Bonus Units will be released at the end of each 20 issue block, judging be the disclosed lists for the first 20 issues circulating the net.
I got the imperium magazine and the rule set was out of date, (it was the 9th), before the run had finished. Ended up with hundreds of pages of tutorials that I can not use. Big waste of money for someone who wanted to learn 40k.
The Premium sub makes it so you do get more for your money so it can be worth it. But sometimes just getting a few different armies will make it more fun for you and your son :)
I received issue 1&2 last week. I see issues in store on and off, didn't see issue 1 or 2 but could have sold out since the discount was great. Issue 3 and 4 i saw in stores, never saw issue 5 just seen issue 6 in my wh smiths. Not sure if its the stock issues or if people are being scumbags and scalping them. Ill be gutted if it gets cancelled as i was hoping to use the other factions for painting practice/variety.
issue 5 is getting scalped by ebay scalpers going into stores as soon as the open, they plan ahead and are pretty well organised, I saw it happening when I was working in retail and my supermarket got in Conquest and Mortal Realms.
Just buying weekly,but happy with the parts as I can fit them into all my forces,had all the partworks since lord of the rings series so looking forward to all the issues,only disapointment is I would have liked some buildings and not so much paint.i wonder if the next partworks will be a lord of the rings collection.
Paying £9 for 2 paints is a bit of a poor deal, the magazine is good tbh and the gifts you get as part of the subscription isn't bad. I would have thought they would have included 3 paints in the paint issues to make it valuable to subscriber. It still offers some decent value.
I really wanted to sign up to the subscription and premium when it went into the presale phase. But I know deep down GW and Hachette will balls it up at every step of the way 🤦🏻♂️ I don't want to pay a very expensive subscription every month and have to chase them up for every issue, premium set and "free gift"
I subscribed when it was announced but not for the trail period. Yesterday the first 2 magazines turned up. Disappointing that the subscribers might be 5 issues behind the non-subscribers
I'd love these magazines unfortunately scalping is insane! I've given up trying to collect the magazine issues I've travelled to other stores all the same story one guy buying the entire stock and wow. Its on Ebay fantastic. If only warhammer could price there models correctly.
🟣 different strokes for different folks obviously, but I think this magazine idea is ludicrous. 9 armies, with Units chosen for me, going to take an age to get 1 army out of it, let alone 9. I just don't see why anyone new would want 9 armies, and any experienced gamer is going to spend all that money on one army, and being able to choose freely as they go, as to what Units they buy. 🤔 ... ... Simon
I got my 1st two issues today. I only subbed 2 weeks ago. I wish you could pick which armys you want and maybe only pay for 2 issues a month instead of 4.
@@mattiedoa4070 yeah being able to pick, say, 3 armies instead of all 9 would be sooo good!
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Still got some time before that will make it to Germany I guess. Sadly already got pretty much all the Combat Patrols I wanted so I only plan to fetch a few choice issues.
I managed to get issue one and two at my local WHS, since then they only get one and as l don't want to order it right through then it goes to someone else.
@@WorHammer40k £15 plus vat, Customs and duties costs so really £25, so Im now being pushed into just getting 3d prints of the models, which sucks badly. GW are dropping the ball completely internationally chaps, no wonder Mr Mao is stealing their customers
I got my first couple issues in the post no problem with free gift and been picking up extras in stores as they come in but they only getting 3-6 max per store so far so I been asking them to put one asside for me each week as a favor, managed to get 4-5 issues of issue 5 luckily by going in very early. Some for me, some for nephew/his dad and an extra "incase". Second delivery though I still have not received even though it shows as been processed/paid for weeks ago on the website account page. Send in some CS tickets but still waiting for reply. I think is worth it to subscribe direct for the premium and extra stuff plus with 9 factions got plenty to do with family/friends and get new people into the hobby. Worst case you can give away or sell at cost the extra combat patrols you don't use or the extra models to friends or even for a profit. Just hope they sort out the logistics issues and get more copies in stores as 3-5 issues available in stores per week are gone in 10 mins. Ebay scalpers go in first thing and buy them all and flip them for double or triple price.
Thank you 👌 Combat patrol magazine is a special Scalpers retailer! with overpriced paints and tools! Who wants and can build 9 factions with a boring and unfair combat patrol mode ! The difference between the V9 and v10 versions is pathetic ( rapport price, units and replayability on 40k). 80% of the patrols in the magazine will no longer be playable in a few months. a subscription that's ultimately not very profitable but one-shots for some very profitable V9 patrols I started with v10 and Leviathan, I played 2-3 games to introduce myself to combat patrol, but it quickly became boring and unbalanced. Especially since the combat patrol mode doesn't appeal to many players. Playing 40k at 750-1000 points is more interesting.
@@DMDuncan37 fully agree on combat patrol - gw needs to invest more design studio resource to really push it as an entry level game. It has the potential to be the gateway into 40k for a lot of new players
I sub online to avoid all the hunting, I got it cuz I always wanted to start collecting them and this seem like a great way to start, also maybe I can have a few solo games while getting started
I'm a little disappointed with the paints and Tyranids mags with units over 2 issues. I am currently paying for premium but I think I will stop my subscription after I get the first premium models and the Chaplin on bike.
You can subscribe at any time, however, YOU can only subscribe for Premium content before Issue 4 is released, after that it ceases to be available, also, after issue 4 the free gifts NO LONGER become available to subscribers.
I don't really understand why Hatchette still do trial runs. Conquest, stormbringer, imperium and mortal realms were all popular. AOS kinda makes sense since its not as big as 40k
My crackpot theory: the reason GW didn't release a roadmap was because the magazine sales exceeded GWs predictions and standing inventory. So they're having to dedicate production to fulfill the order late and hope no one notices. If this is the case, I'm not sure what would be worse. Either they fail to complete the order and have to cancel the magazine release abroad or they continue to postpone new releases as the combat patrols contine to take up their limited production capacity. But like I said it's just my wild speculation at this point.
Tin foil predictions are the best. Issue is with your prediction is nether solution is great :( - They will be spinning up there UK factory to try and catch up on orders. Considering GW print to order some models and say delivery can take up to 365 days, i dont see them cancelling the release abroad and just going with the postponement option.
@@WorHammer40k thats it mate ive already got 4 all gw armies i deserve a discount now surely hahah. In seriousness as a painter the designs im getting are so much nicer and they're welcomed at most tournaments now. No reason to keep up with constant price increases, i want to support gw but i aint rich
@@WorHammer40k absolutely agree mate i was against printing this time a year ago! Anyway im playing the allotment wildings tourney hopefully see you guys there!
I subbed but they never sent it and never responded to my emails rang them they have no record lol hachette suck. I now subbed through my local toy shop
Think I lost brain cells after watching and hearing this vidio as I was painting. you are just a pair of 40k only nerds woffeling on about if its good for you when that combat patrol magazine is mostly targeted towards new hobbiest and collectors who wants a bit of everything. Its also targeted for peaple who can't really aford to buy and paint a 2k army before the rules all change and get errata in fail 10th edition (no its not the best edition 40k is in as there are NO stability with its rules from the constant "balance" updates) Also its more for people who can't decide wich faction to pick thats why there are 9 small armys for people to try out as they subscribe to the magazine and for collectors like my self who love to have a small army of each faction. Unlike you pair who and others who would spoil this product by buying multiple of the same magazine to get great deals and then try and sell them off as profit.
@@Kinaro666 wow, you had a lot to get off your chest there. Of course there are folk like you who will enjoy buying, painting and owning 400-500pts of lots of factions. But that's not the demographic either our channel or our videos are aimed at, is it?
Not sure you had any brain cells to lose in the first place if you thought that was worth you commenting, you bloody misery. Geez. If you don't like it, don't listen. Also you could add your viewpoint without being hostile to them about it. Just move on instead of complaining about people who spent their own time making this content. If you think you can do better, then by all means go and do so. If you can't say anything nice... Only stopping to tell you in the hope it will spare some other content creator in the future from having to hear receive comments like this from you again. It's ok to not agree with the video or the opinions, but don't need to be a jerk to do so.
im down in Australia... we have a pretty healthy group of new players playing kill team and combat patrol... 🫡 less brain load when you're learning... i'll be getting the mag to paint up spare armies for noobs to play with... seems like a good investment for the group...
Went premium, my son turned 9 and wanted to get into the hobby, he swapped the flame Sargent for 10 intercessor. I'm having the chaos,guard,nid,cult, he's having the rest. Yes it's a bit pricey but he loves it and it's something for me and him to do.
@@WinstonSmith-yy8qs spending that time with your boy is money well spent
That sounds great. Building plane models with my old man is one of my nicest childhood memories.
That's awesome!
Excellent, i also went premium , going to try the other armies!
I think the magazine is better for the hobbyist rather than the gamer.
It would appeal to people who just want to collect and paint all kinds of different miniatures and factions
Ayyye Good shout Stevo - Am 100% stealing from Dan when he doesnt want a magazine but can easily see the appeal to those wanting a nice collection!
I’ve subbed just to have stuff to paint
@@Daisy-wy5mn if you're bored you can paint our pile of shame 😁
I consider myself a "Fun" player rather than a competitive player and so am happy to play games of - how will this group of figures act/play/perform against this group of figures and so dont pursue one perfect army like some "Serious" players do. I suppose i also fit into the hobbyist category.
Exactly why i've subbed! And also got the full sub of AOS :D
The problem for example if you want to collect sm and tyranids which are from the leviathan box is that its still cheaper to buy the box. The magazine is good if you just want to pick odd ones for whats inside.
@@gavinbissell8847 yes, we said exactly that in the video!
My lads just played his 3rd of 40k, he loved it.
I told him oath of moment only works if he "shouts for the Emperor".
He had sm cpt, 2x 5 flame marines, 5 terminators, 5 intercessors.
I had mek, 3 x 20 grots, 3x kill kans. 1x dreadnought.
It's been nice to see him talk about something other than mincraft.
I just love the painting and collecting side. Ive just begun playing the game with the miniatures ive accumulated over the years.
These magazines let me try new faction i probably wouldnt have tried otherwise and give me varied painting projects. All at a lower cost.
I sub'd premium and have had all magazines on time. Mega happy so far.
Ive also topped up my nid army with extra issues in the shops. Which ill be looking to do again with other issues coming down the line
@@jasonpapworth4428 yes if you like collecting lots of different factions, it's great
The premium magazine is a great way to build 2/3 really solid starter armies through kitbashing or allies. The first one is GSC, turning the guard into brood brothers and then buy a unit of pure strains. They can be used with either the GSC or tyranids. Which will get you 1490 points with brood brothers and the genestealers for GSC. Or 1000 points raw for tyranids.
Next you build either world eaters or black legion (or your own Khorne leaning warband) all the big models like the Deamon prince, hellbrute, and mauler fiend can be run in either, the legionaries can be built as normal or made into extra bezerkers. Lastly the space marines can be turned to chaos making some chaos terminators with characters. The infernus can be made into extra legionaries using the spare weapons. The CSM army in particular when bolstered with the space marines and taking bezerkers as allies comes in at 1690 point! Or the world eaters gets to 1415 (not using any other infantry besides the terminator and the two csm characters being made into MoEs) realistically you could make extra bezerkers out of the legionaries and maybe the infernus marines but idk how many blades you have to go around and you’d run low on heads. But I’d just sell them and the terminator characters/havocks and put that money towards angron for when you want to move to 2k.
@@dittmar104 this is brilliant! Love your creativity
Regarding the delays, I signed up for the trial run and opted for the premium sub. I have received both the initial deliveries for the full run and am up to date so far.
@@Fluxeor excellent, thank you!
I signed up to the premium subscription a couple of days before it released, and i waited around 6/7 weeks just to receive issue 1.
It canny sad. Dan just received his. It looks like they didnt include him on the subscription as he was one of the first similar to you. They might of just missed you off the subscription list. Give them a call there support got it sorted
@WorHammer40k I rang them numerous times before I eventually received both issues 1 & 2 in the post. They told me, and I quote "They weren't expecting over 13,000 people to subscribe to Combat Patrol".
Honestly from a purely collecting and making models perspective I do want all nine armies.
I’ve signed up got my first two magazines and got the models primed.
Just wish they would sell them to us in Scandinavia too (English ones are just fine). If we had them here I would go for the Premium deal and get all the nice extra models.
I’m definitely the target market for this. Returning to the hobby after 20ish years and always been more interested in collecting and painting than playing.
A drip-feed of minis and paints every month without having to think about it is pretty much perfect for me 😊
@@dorflghoat perfect for you! Enjoy - and welcome back!!
My only gripe is 2 chaos armys and no Tau.
@@ph0n1k aye does seem a little odd having 2 chaos
@@WorHammer40k I'm considering selling one or both of the chaos armies once they are complete and either buying Tau or more of another army. The other thing I'm doing while subscribed to the magazine is not spending on other minis or hobby stuff. I could easily spend well over £50 a month on the hobby, so this bundles up that spend for me and delivers it to my door.
Tau don’t belong in 40k, go play gunpla 😝
I'm just relieved the chaos didnt include nurgle which I got in the starter sets a couple of editions ago. Now I will have 3 Chaos armies and I'm not even a chaos fan 🙂 🙂 I too would have liked a Tau force
The problem with the tau combat patrol is dividing it into 9 issues the crisis suits are on 2 sprues with only a character and a squad of warriors
Years ago I had white dwarf subscriptions and the mailman would crease my magazine to put the rest of my mail inside like a taco. My luck they would find a way to fold this.
@@davidparker1508 you were not alone! Postmen in the uk also did that.
Hard to fold the Combat Patrol deliveries so - barring the first shipment, they are sent out in batches of 4 issues.
So I'm the extremist with these things, built huge armies during imperium and doing the same here.
I've got 3 premium subs, have a newsagent I've been ordering extras with since halfway through imperium, using this run as a chance to grab a bunch of basic troops for some factions I play and a couple I'm interested in.
I subbed during the test run, they cancelled mine but luckily I caught it, thankfully hachette do have some really good eggs on their customer service team and they helped set it straight.
I bought 39 copies of issue 1, not selling on any of them, I have my reasons.
Will use this to replace my termagants for the new sculpts, bulk out my terminator army, build a cults and votann force and pickup some bits for 3 other factions I have.
Love to hear it, Dan contacted the customer support team the other day and they have also sorted him out right away which is great of Hachette. Buying 39 copies makes me wounder not why you bought that many but why you didnt round it up to 40 haha
I bought 3 of the 1st issue at WH Smith then subscribed with Hachette from EP2 and got EP3 free plus snips mould line scraper for a total of £6.99! Waiting for next delivery to arrive, no mention of it on my Hachette account😱
Yeah am looking forward to grabbing more issues myself, fingers crossed it updates soon for you!
Ironically I’ve been seeing them in a bunch of local WHSmiths. I missed out on imperium so I’ve had to scour eBay for deals in order to bolster my Necron canoptek court. I was disappointed that combat patrol magazines have nothing for Necrons but it does make sense given how many imperium magazines were Necron focused.
@@Rolman3D fantastic you've got a local source!
Received my second delivery up to no 6, looking forward to the 3rd delivery which for me is due 27th of Oct, went for the premium which is fab value considering the price of these figures just on there own and looking forward to the GSC, Astra militarum and for me the Khorne box set , the rest my grandson will get.
@@andrewbage3250 lucky grandson! Yes the premium is the best value for sure. Dan has gone for a premium subscription too.
Enjoy!
Signed up for the trial, got a free book and I've received the first 6 issues without any problems.
@@coolbritannia1979 excellent! Glad to hear it's working for you
Went with a premium sub, selling the Eldar at cost to a workmate, probably looking to trades the Squats for someone's Orks, 'Stealers or Guard down the line.
In terms of extras, if I'm only wanting a few duplicates I'll try to source those at retail, if I want a decent amount I'll preorder the cap of 5 copies at Forbidden Planet and take the postage on the chin.
Now that we know the Termagants are split across 4 magazines for the 20, which is terrible value compared to what on sprue fleshborer 'Gants can be picked up for right now, I've maybe overdone it with duplicate Leapers on issue 2 as I may end up just grabbing a couple of 40K starters for extra 'Gants. No real problem as the Leapers look to be holding a fifteen quid value so can move on extras of those. The Barbgaunts that aren't in the starter were well worth snagging extras though.
@@thepartworkscomicsreader9488 excellent summary!
What day should the new issues come to a shop each week? My local WHSmiths has the first three, I bought the termy captain of course
Every Wednesday it's released, been the same for ALL Weekly Hachette Partworks for years now, every other Wednesday for Fortnightly ones.
@@darrenrichardson6146 cool nice one, thanks
I did the trial, only got the book. I have however had my first 2 deliveries now. It does seem to take closer to 10 days to deliver
@@richarddean8042 good that it's working for you now!
Great vid lads. I was talking to my partner earlier & she made a great point with regards to the weekly format, while its roughly the same cost as just buying q CP box, some people might not have £100 to drop on a box today, so in a way you could look at it like klarna. I've always thought its a good way to get a lot of minis, but not be overwhelmed by having so many unbuilt & unpainted sat on your shelf, so long as you can keep up a unit a week pace at least
A very valid point, though for a chunk of this run I'm going to be dropping £100 a week on certain issues, but I just have a problem.
Yeah completely valid. Sometimes buying a big box does put me off especially when there are units i know i don't want to play in the box!
Most of us do we just keep it quiet haha
Weirdly, the playmat in issue one is better quality than some of the mats in the 'official' GW releases.
@@anthonywaggett9317 haha yes!
Probably a silly question but if I subscribe now will i get the previous issues released?
@@01jayp yes
Yeah you choose what issue to start with on the website.
As a hobbyist who has never thrown dice in a game of Warhammer its perfect for me. I wont particularly notice £50 leaving my account once a month and getting tons more plastic to sit in my cupboard unpainted for the next 20 years seems decent.
I would love to actually play but I dont know anyone and my local game store isnt very local and the few times ive been in there they were very uninterested in having a conversation with me so its put me off going.
My local games workshop is super friendly but it always seems to be filled with younger people so I dont want to be the 38 year old surrounded by spotty nerd teenagers.
@@Bish186 for collecting and painting it's perfect, aye.
Where do you live, mate? Is there not a gaming club? They are often more friendly and welcoming.
We have loads of 30-somethings coming into the hobby at our local club
Odd I signed up tot the trial and have had issues 1-6 delivered so far without any issues
Dans lucky am replying! He would be canny mad reading your comment haha
Subscribed last Friday and the first 2 issues turned up yesterday, I actually assumed I would be waiting a while as I hadn't long had my last stormbringer so I thought they would come together, feel bad for those that have had problems, never had a problem with hachette myself, always been a fan of part works since collecting toy car mags as a kid
And untill stormbringer finishes I now get to wonder what I'm going to open.... is it a man? Is it an ork? Is it an elf? A chaos monster? Fun times! ✌️😊
@@hamoostaffat ah the joys of a surprise parcel! Although if you live in the uk i believe stormbringer has now finished - not going to run to 90 issues
@@WorHammer40k I was a little late to the party, I'm only on 66/80 so far, depending how they send the last 2 I've got 3 or 4 more deliveries yet 😁
Not sure if it'll go 4 4 4 2 or 4 5 5 or 4 4 6, not sure yet
I (selfishly) try to get people I meet into the game and these are great as a kind of toe in the water thing, I really liked that stormbringer took you from 1 mini fist fights upto full strategic battles with relative ease compared to past GW ventures, the "free" tools kind of feel like old 90s stock they never sold off though
The combat patrol one though does seem more of a niche collection though for many reasons you guys stated, unless your the game club guy or the full blown addict that will buy anything just to expand the dust collectors this one doesn't seem as great as past collections, but with so many gods demanding so many souls how can I not obey and paint more plastic? 🤣
@@hamoostaffat dan's last stormbringer delivery at the end of august was 2 final issues. No idea how that works out 😁
@@WorHammer40k lol, my next is the 25th Oct for issues 67-70, weird
Maybe that means they give you about 3 or 4 months to subscribe before they stop new subs? 🤷♂️
In terms of who it's for: people who want to play Combat Patrol. GW are increasingly pushing this idea of "collecting wide or collecting deep" - you can have nine small Combat Patrols instead of one or two huge armies. You get more varied building and painting projects, don't need such a big table so easier to play at home, no list building so no pre-game prep is needed - I can just give someone a patrol and teach them it like any other board game. It's a smaller scale and whole other world to the gaming club / tournament scene but it's also the way huge numbers of people engage with the hobby, and GW finally delivering product aimed at this group is welcome. (rather than delivering product clearly meant as a "stepping stone"- the biggest cost of moving from a 500-point to 2000-point army is a bigger dining table!)
For rules support, I'd note the rules will be in the magazines that come with the models! I'll be interested to see how they handle the extra mini in the magazine, but the partworks have always worked this way. They come with rules for playing the exact minis you get. They may not be the exact same as the core game, but you are able to play with them.
Grabbed 3 copies of the first issue for converting a chaplain and 3 x tryanid warriors. That's 150 quids worth so happy with that. I'll try and grab other things i need as it goes along
@@Mark.Matthews nice! Where you getting em from?
@@WorHammer40k just the local Tesco, they sell out within the day
@@Mark.Matthews aye ours is the same - gotta be in there super quick!
GW have been very slow in listening to the Community but do seem to be catching up. There does seem to still be a bit of disconnect, some things are still free and some get deleted when Codex gets released but we have seen positive steps.
@@anthonywaggett9317 aye we were really pleased to see they kept the Combat Patrol rules free
I subscribed (with premium) when it opened in August and had both deliveries so far so up to issue 6. The second delivery (4th October) was just after issue 5 was in the shop so around 3 weeks into the 4-weekly release cycle. Not sure if that will stay the same but looking good so far.
I have no plans to expand into full 40k (I prefer OPR skirmish-sized games and these can be used there) and want a selection of factions to try and attract friends into playing and to make solo more varied so 9 is a great match for me. I have also been enjoying painting so this is a great way to get a nice variety of different minis.
@@MrStratofish sounds like it's perfect for you! Enjoy, mate
Each magazine has a game to play with that issues models. I do want all 9 it means i can have a game with people who dont play yet. And people have choices.
Also i have things to paint. And i very much enjoy the painting side of the hobby. And i do like the paints and stuff. Ive learnt a fair bit from.
It comes with all its own rules and i dont have to rule chase. I wont play normal 40k because the rules change far to fast to be played casually. This comes with game matts and reference cards with the actual stats on them.
Ive been painting my infurnus marines and swapped out one of them for the sergeant.
Im subbed to the premium. I do enjoy getting a selection of hobby supplies straight to my door. And i got tyrannic war book for free because i didnt get on the trial.
@@zoeyreynolds9679 aye it's perfect for folk like you, a great way to play casual 40k
Seriously guys sign up again! I only signed up a week ago and have already received my first two issues, so I would definitely not trust that they signed you up if worse comes to worst you just get an extra two if you 1 and 2.
I was a subscriber to one of their books subscriptions for transformers and they didn't put me over automatically from the trial period either. So now I didn't even sign up for the trial.
Never trust what they say is it good rule of thumb
So if anyone's in this situation sign up again
@@The-DashFox thanks for the heads up!
Can’t use the SM combat
Arrow as a box for value going down, or Nids, as they are starter box items.
You’ve got to look at the new boxes coming that are replacing old ones for other codexes
@@danscarfe7020 we made that point in the video, yes.
Do you work for a company affiliated with Hachette, Dan? Seen you pop up to defend them on a few posts.
I’ve got my crusade book have 2 subscriptions running one premium one normal and I’ve received 2x episodes 1/2 so I’m about where they suggest
@@Kydor excellent! Thanks for the feedback and glad it's working for you
I subscribed through Hachette as I couldn't find them in shops and could still start at issue 1. I placed my subscription on 29/09 and got issue 2, clippers and mouldline remover for free and arrived on 09/10, with the next dispatch on 01/11, hopefully.
@@doc_eyebrow excellent, thank you!
I already have more of these armies then are going to get combat patrols for these magazines. If I wanted to play that level of game I could see myself getting these as that point size game actually intrigues me.
Think this is the 5th Warhammer partwork. Youd have thought theyd have nailed the logistics of it by now?
Think the omission of terrain is a mistake this time round too.
I inow its not as popular as the main game, but a kill Team partwork would work great. Split a team over 2 issues, add terrain, and wallop
Yeahh this isint there first time so it is odd how much they're struggling with supply. They knew how many they needed to have when people signed up.
GW are f*cling good at FOMO. That’s where this magazine aims,everything will be cheaper through third party buying.
Oooh they are mate. I (jack) am picking up what i can from the shops/ebay but only the bit i want
Good discussion chaps. Hadn’t considered the inconsistency between the models offered vs the actual combat patrol game mode. With the specials that some people sign up for to get the redemptor dreadnaught etc too; just not compatible with combat patrol - which is the name and point of the magazine. Marketing point I guess but what is on offer here is more than combat patrol. Interesting that they muddy the messaging in this way for new players. Cynically, it’s just about providing the additional eye catching models they hope people will plum for.
Something most people fail to realise is Newsagents only receive the first 4-5 issues of a new partwork on a SALE OR RETURN (or SOR) basis, where newsagents can return unsold magazines by a certain date after the publication date of the title after it's been on the shelf for a pre-set time.
If it's returned before that cut off date, the newsagents gets credit that goes towards their magazine supplier bills, every magazine and collectors cards/stickers are under this form of selling, with the EXCEPTION of partworks, they stop being SOR after the first 5-10 issues (depending on the partwork).
So Newsagents WON'T receive copies after that SOR period expire, now major Supermarkets and WH-Smiths don't have this restriction, so those are the places your more likely to find the partwork during it's entire run.
As a result of the SOR limits, most newsagents won't get in issues for people to "Cherry Pick" what issues they want, as they CAN'T get credit back for those unwanted issues.
Very true, my guy gets in what I ask for, but I do pick up extra copies when people fail to pickup theirs, unless it's valuable, then I advise my newsagent to sell it on eBay, did that a lot with the OOP scenery in storm ringer, I just think it's fair.
Enjoying your guys content! Super new to 40 k. Got my first game of Combat patrol in last month, I've played 4 so far. I have 2 other friends who got into the game at the same time and 1 veteran player - the vet had all the units to form their combat patrol. It's convenient to get started and took a lot of the pain of learning every model in the army and trying to decide what is good and what isn't.
It's been fun, but I'll admit I'm already ready to bump up to plain 500 point games. Having just 4-5 units doesn't feel good when two of them get wiped out by some bad dice rolls by turn 2. Then you're not really playing the missions at that point.
My friend brought up boarding actions and I'm definitely interested. We were debating whether or not we would play next at 500 points with combat patrol rules or use big 40k rules - I think it should depend on what units we bring to the table. If all units have combat patrol rules then we agree to play by those ones but if any player takes a unit without combat patrol rules, we will play by the big 40k datasheets and can use combat patrol missions.
I'm ready to step up to 1k already lol.
Its always fun stepping up the points. I sometimes find it hard to balance a 500 or 1k point game as some armies just simply do better at small point costs. Just keep the games to a point where its fair and fun because as you mentioned, if you loose 2 5ths of your army its even worse at 1k/2k games haha
Boarding actions am really interested in learning/playing. Something different from the regular 40k games, means you can take a break from combat patrol whilst you wait for more models to come to build up your points!
Having watched warhammer from afar for many years have finally dived in due to this magazine.
Absolutely distraught finding out there’s no Necrons in the set 😭
Great podcast regardless
Subscribed
@@Scrim71 thank you! And welcome to the greatest hobby
Hah bad timing, the last magazine was absolutely drowning in Necrons
The worst thing for me is they've started with the 2 lowest value factions with models you could easily pick up elsewhere as the market is flooded with leviathan models. Not only that the units you could make savings on like the terminator squad are split over 2 mags. I bought 5 of the first mag as I wanted a load of the captain to make a unit of paladin and my son built a squad of tyrants warriors.
I WISH you got the whole Leviathan run.. the Sternguard and dread look lovely and would be good value.
Even worse it's just the Starter Set units which are fine models but cheap as to split a box or Ebay.
Sure there it’s SM and Nids first because they were intro box factions with push fits
Any prospective GSC players should be excited, it's said to be the older better combat patrol, so you can buy four copies of the relevant mags for maybe £160ish and get a decent 2k point army, maybe save more by avoiding multiple magos if possible.
@@benjaminrogers8875 deffo mate! Dan is very excited 😁
Also Necromunda players can get a ton of cheap vehicles - that rockgrinder is only 2 sprues so a maximum of £20.
@@sonicwingnut very true
Is it available only in UK or in Germany too? where to buy these, have no idea
@@EvgeniiShchetinin at the moment only the uk
I'm happy to have all the armies :-) One thing you didnt mention was that in the magazines they have mini scenarios, so you can, in principal be playing from the first issue, in the game style/rules presented in the magazine - whether that is compatible with the mainstream game or not?
@@fullovstars9447 good point! Yes, a lot of the game mechanics are the same as "proper 40k" so for beginners it's really good
I collected imperium and stormbringer, my biggest problem is, by the time you've finished collecting the new addition is out and it's a bit useless
I purchased the subscription three weeks ago and haven’t received still
I think on the one hand we need subscribers to keep it going.. but also subcription is a sucker's game, especially if you have Leviathan already or you don't want a ton of rubbish paint issues. If you go into Forbidden Planet in Newcastle they get tons of them in and usually get loads of restocks later on if you miss one. Travelling Man next door are doing it this year too.
Another bonus is if you have a staff or student university card you can get 10% off all books and magazines. This includes the Hachette mags.
Ok so I signed up on the release date for the magazine. I had to do this because Hachette was asking out local bookshop to jump through more hoops behind the scenes to get an account set up for his business than any other publisher has ever had him do and by the release date they still hadnt sorted him out. Had to complain to customer support because my subscription wasnt processed after a few days. They told me they would do the first shipment mid October same as everyone fine I can wait. 4th comes around and I didnt know anything changed but a couple days later I checked the site just to see if anything had changed and found that on the 4th they processed my order of the first 2 issues. A week later they have not arrived. I am not confident I will see any issues at this rate.
@@Mremeralddragon unfortunately your story is not unique. But if they processed your order you should be ok mate
My order for issues 1&2 was processed at the end of August and arrived... this week
@@Pootleflump haha! Dan's first package just arrived
Unfortunately, age of Sigmar has done a much better job with their version of combat patrol by adding special rules when purchasing a spearhead box which also has to be built as the units are pictured on the box.
It also has a random event deck and comes with a double sided special board specifically for spearhead and each side represents two different realms, which I think is life and fire ?
So depending on the mission and which side of the board, it tells you to use the spearhead rules include random special events that both players have to find ways to optimize their turn or get around any negative modifiers from the event deck.
Also, for some reason, I feel like a spearhead boxes contain value because they seem to come with more content and they’re slightly cheaper compared to combat patrol.
I remember when the new Necron combat patrol with the doom stalker with 10 Warriors, three scarabs swarms, three scorpion, destroyers, and an overlord with a tackyon arrow, which I still think needs a major glow up since the arrow can only be used once per turn only to have it completely blocked by a 4++, definitely something like devastating wounds or mortal wounds on a critical wound.
What I find ironic is that GW said that they were staying away from vehicles and monsters and other potential centerpiece models in the new combat patrols yet the Necron patrol comes with a doom stalker..lol
@@chrisbeau76 very true!
I’m just wondering which combat patrols we’re getting old or new… Because I’m after those older ones
Absolutely agree with you on rating boarding actions over combat patrol. Unfortunately the CP magazine content does not fit boarding actions well as it contains a lot of vehicles. Here one is actually better of by chosing new combat patrol boxes.
For myself I will give it a hard pass speaking while running 11 armies. There is just no value added from miniature perspective for long time collectors despite a few issues which I would need in multiples. The concept is just already outdated before the magazine lands and by the time it finishes we are in 11th already.
I’ve been describing or comparing Combat Patrol to a premade deck in Magic The Gathering. 🤘
🇦🇺 Australian fan here. The prices are crazy here.
Wait we finally have them here ?
I think games workshop have learned their lesson from the first 2 40k magazines after conquest no one needed to ever buy death guard ever again the same with imperium the necrons range most of it came in the magazine with this the way I can tell after issue 20 they will release a combat patrol over 10 issues with a bonus unit and a paint issue they might even extend it by 10 issues to give each faction a bonus unit
@@georgeaitken2719 aye there is a bonus unit for each faction
@@WorHammer40k It's looking like the Bonus Units will be released at the end of each 20 issue block, judging be the disclosed lists for the first 20 issues circulating the net.
@@darrenrichardson6146 yes that is correct as far as we know. We'll find out in the New Year!
I got the imperium magazine and the rule set was out of date, (it was the 9th), before the run had finished. Ended up with hundreds of pages of tutorials that I can not use. Big waste of money for someone who wanted to learn 40k.
@@markoxford that's a real shame! Are you playing 10th edition now?
@@WorHammer40k Nope - Necromunda :)
@@markoxford nice!
I applied at the start of the year, had all of my issues sent no problem
@@timchazer3113 good to hear!
Im gonna sell the 2 chaos and Aeldari editions and use that to fill out the other 6 a little better, maybe an extra character, a vehicle and a squad.
Both my son and i share the cost of getting this magazine. He subscribed to the Premium subscription, so hopefully it will be worth it
The Premium sub makes it so you do get more for your money so it can be worth it. But sometimes just getting a few different armies will make it more fun for you and your son :)
@@WorHammer40k we've been playing wargmes for a few years. Myself since the 70s.
I received issue 1&2 last week.
I see issues in store on and off, didn't see issue 1 or 2 but could have sold out since the discount was great. Issue 3 and 4 i saw in stores, never saw issue 5 just seen issue 6 in my wh smiths.
Not sure if its the stock issues or if people are being scumbags and scalping them.
Ill be gutted if it gets cancelled as i was hoping to use the other factions for painting practice/variety.
Just checked my hachette account my next dispatch is 25/10/24 so I'm hoping that will catch me up but going off the older magazines it's 4 at a time.
@@xx1norm1xx yes it's always 4 at a time
@@xx1norm1xx if you've started to receive the mags via your subscription, you should be golden for the rest
issue 5 is getting scalped by ebay scalpers going into stores as soon as the open, they plan ahead and are pretty well organised, I saw it happening when I was working in retail and my supermarket got in Conquest and Mortal Realms.
@@darrenrichardson6146 100% mate. Every single issue disappeared from the retail outlets we use
Just buying weekly,but happy with the parts as I can fit them into all my forces,had all the partworks since lord of the rings series so looking forward to all the issues,only disapointment is I would have liked some buildings and not so much paint.i wonder if the next partworks will be a lord of the rings collection.
Paying £9 for 2 paints is a bit of a poor deal, the magazine is good tbh and the gifts you get as part of the subscription isn't bad. I would have thought they would have included 3 paints in the paint issues to make it valuable to subscriber. It still offers some decent value.
Agreed that 2 paints is stingy.. if it's like Imperium some issues have 3 paints also.
I really wanted to sign up to the subscription and premium when it went into the presale phase.
But I know deep down GW and Hachette will balls it up at every step of the way 🤦🏻♂️
I don't want to pay a very expensive subscription every month and have to chase them up for every issue, premium set and "free gift"
I'm still amazed GW keep working with those guys given how often they've scammed folks with the last few runs
I subscribed when it was announced but not for the trail period. Yesterday the first 2 magazines turned up. Disappointing that the subscribers might be 5 issues behind the non-subscribers
@@lightningminaturesstudio it's not great is it?
I got my second box a few days ago with 3 to 6 in so hopefully they will catch you up soon and it will balance out.
I'd love these magazines unfortunately scalping is insane! I've given up trying to collect the magazine issues I've travelled to other stores all the same story one guy buying the entire stock and wow. Its on Ebay fantastic. If only warhammer could price there models correctly.
Just waiting for it to drop in USA but i got a couple of them from Forbidden Planet
@@atlanta_greg_7612 nice!
🟣 different strokes for different folks obviously, but I think this magazine idea is ludicrous.
9 armies, with Units chosen for me, going to take an age to get 1 army out of it, let alone 9.
I just don't see why anyone new would want 9 armies, and any experienced gamer is going to spend all that money on one army, and being able to choose freely as they go, as to what Units they buy.
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@@simonneville3278 well said!
I got my 1st two issues today. I only subbed 2 weeks ago. I wish you could pick which armys you want and maybe only pay for 2 issues a month instead of 4.
@@mattiedoa4070 yeah being able to pick, say, 3 armies instead of all 9 would be sooo good!
Still got some time before that will make it to Germany I guess.
Sadly already got pretty much all the Combat Patrols I wanted so I only plan to fetch a few choice issues.
I managed to get issue one and two at my local WHS, since then they only get one and as l don't want to order it right through then it goes to someone else.
Im p mad at the cost at the fucking shipping to Ireland, it actually costs an arm and a leg for Irish customers and its a pain
How much is it? - Wouldn't of thought it cost much more than the UK
@@WorHammer40k £15 plus vat, Customs and duties costs so really £25, so Im now being pushed into just getting 3d prints of the models, which sucks badly.
GW are dropping the ball completely internationally chaps, no wonder Mr Mao is stealing their customers
@@someirishguy1662 There are some awesome 3d prints out there aswell. Could easily grab some considering that price is canny bad :(
Nice to see fellow Geordies talking WorHamma! Nice Show lads.
Thanks Ross, we gotta keep spreading mate! Thanks for the love and keep on printing the real battle :) (pun was intended but i know it was crap haha)
I got my first couple issues in the post no problem with free gift and been picking up extras in stores as they come in but they only getting 3-6 max per store so far so I been asking them to put one asside for me each week as a favor, managed to get 4-5 issues of issue 5 luckily by going in very early. Some for me, some for nephew/his dad and an extra "incase".
Second delivery though I still have not received even though it shows as been processed/paid for weeks ago on the website account page. Send in some CS tickets but still waiting for reply. I think is worth it to subscribe direct for the premium and extra stuff plus with 9 factions got plenty to do with family/friends and get new people into the hobby. Worst case you can give away or sell at cost the extra combat patrols you don't use or the extra models to friends or even for a profit.
Just hope they sort out the logistics issues and get more copies in stores as 3-5 issues available in stores per week are gone in 10 mins. Ebay scalpers go in first thing and buy them all and flip them for double or triple price.
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Combat patrol magazine is a special Scalpers retailer! with overpriced paints and tools!
Who wants and can build 9 factions with a boring and unfair combat patrol mode !
The difference between the V9 and v10 versions is pathetic ( rapport price, units and replayability on 40k).
80% of the patrols in the magazine will no longer be playable in a few months.
a subscription that's ultimately not very profitable
but one-shots for some very profitable V9 patrols
I started with v10 and Leviathan, I played 2-3 games to introduce myself to combat patrol, but it quickly became boring and unbalanced.
Especially since the combat patrol mode doesn't appeal to many players.
Playing 40k at 750-1000 points is more interesting.
@@DMDuncan37 fully agree on combat patrol - gw needs to invest more design studio resource to really push it as an entry level game.
It has the potential to be the gateway into 40k for a lot of new players
@@WorHammer40k GW should take inspiration from the Spearhead mode, which has been a success with AOS players. A fun and interesting mode
I got a delay and did not sign up for trial
@@MrDacat sorry to hear that
I sub online to avoid all the hunting, I got it cuz I always wanted to start collecting them and this seem like a great way to start, also maybe I can have a few solo games while getting started
I'm a little disappointed with the paints and Tyranids mags with units over 2 issues.
I am currently paying for premium but I think I will stop my subscription after I get the first premium models and the Chaplin on bike.
Not sold in my part of europe. Seems like a good problem to have.
Ooh that removes the temptation haha
You can subscribe at any time, however, YOU can only subscribe for Premium content before Issue 4 is released, after that it ceases to be available, also, after issue 4 the free gifts NO LONGER become available to subscribers.
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first I guess loving the videos guys
Very kind thank you!
I’m interested in all of the magazines but my pile of shame is screaming no to me
You'll become tone deaf to those screams, just keep ignoring them ;)
I don't really understand why Hatchette still do trial runs. Conquest, stormbringer, imperium and mortal realms were all popular. AOS kinda makes sense since its not as big as 40k
@@DMKA94 fully agree
Still haven’t received mine after three weeks
@@4rch3rslif oh no! Fingers crossed it turns up soon
@@WorHammer40k I hope so I’m in the uk as well
My crackpot theory: the reason GW didn't release a roadmap was because the magazine sales exceeded GWs predictions and standing inventory. So they're having to dedicate production to fulfill the order late and hope no one notices.
If this is the case, I'm not sure what would be worse. Either they fail to complete the order and have to cancel the magazine release abroad or they continue to postpone new releases as the combat patrols contine to take up their limited production capacity.
But like I said it's just my wild speculation at this point.
Tin foil predictions are the best. Issue is with your prediction is nether solution is great :( - They will be spinning up there UK factory to try and catch up on orders. Considering GW print to order some models and say delivery can take up to 365 days, i dont see them cancelling the release abroad and just going with the postponement option.
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i cancelled my sub and just bought 2 3d printers now its meaningless to me lmao
@@chaosclg got the world in a resin bottle now! Enjoy
@@WorHammer40k thats it mate ive already got 4 all gw armies i deserve a discount now surely hahah. In seriousness as a painter the designs im getting are so much nicer and they're welcomed at most tournaments now. No reason to keep up with constant price increases, i want to support gw but i aint rich
@@chaosclg we honestly think folk like you are at the forefront of the biggest change the hobby has ever seen
@@WorHammer40k absolutely agree mate i was against printing this time a year ago! Anyway im playing the allotment wildings tourney hopefully see you guys there!
@@chaosclg see you there!
Im not a fan of the fact that the USA people have to wait longer for the subscription.
Be happy you can get it at all
The whole rollout isn't great, USA will still get it before Dan knowing his luck!
@@piotrjeske4599 wow you're a real treat eh?
I subbed but they never sent it and never responded to my emails rang them they have no record lol hachette suck. I now subbed through my local toy shop
Think I lost brain cells after watching and hearing this vidio as I was painting.
you are just a pair of 40k only nerds woffeling on about if its good for you when that combat patrol magazine is mostly targeted towards new hobbiest and collectors who wants a bit of everything.
Its also targeted for peaple who can't really aford to buy and paint a 2k army before the rules all change and get errata in fail 10th edition (no its not the best edition 40k is in as there are NO stability with its rules from the constant "balance" updates)
Also its more for people who can't decide wich faction to pick thats why there are 9 small armys for people to try out as they subscribe to the magazine and for collectors like my self who love to have a small army of each faction. Unlike you pair who and others who would spoil this product by buying multiple of the same magazine to get great deals and then try and sell them off as profit.
@@Kinaro666 wow, you had a lot to get off your chest there.
Of course there are folk like you who will enjoy buying, painting and owning 400-500pts of lots of factions.
But that's not the demographic either our channel or our videos are aimed at, is it?
Not sure you had any brain cells to lose in the first place if you thought that was worth you commenting, you bloody misery. Geez. If you don't like it, don't listen. Also you could add your viewpoint without being hostile to them about it. Just move on instead of complaining about people who spent their own time making this content. If you think you can do better, then by all means go and do so.
If you can't say anything nice...
Only stopping to tell you in the hope it will spare some other content creator in the future from having to hear receive comments like this from you again. It's ok to not agree with the video or the opinions, but don't need to be a jerk to do so.
im down in Australia... we have a pretty healthy group of new players playing kill team and combat patrol... 🫡 less brain load when you're learning... i'll be getting the mag to paint up spare armies for noobs to play with... seems like a good investment for the group...