How to Correctly Set Out a Bathroom for Tiling
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2012
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In this video the DIY Doc shows how to set out a bathroom correctly for tiling to ensure that all your tiles are square and true and all vulnerable areas are totally watertight 
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Guys, you have to remember that these vids are for newbies in the game, we all had to learn once, I've been a tiler for many years and still look at how 'others' do it, don't be so proud to believe that you know best, we live and learn every day, that's what make us good. to the presenter - carry on the good work, its informative and as accurate as it needs to be at this level.
+tom stanley Thanks Tom, keep up the good work
As an architect it is good to see the issues tradesmen face in their work so we can adjust our designs accordingly - so remember although I'm not doing any tiling, I am setting out tiles so practical knowledge helps us all.
+Gary Speed Great news Gary, thanks for taking the time to write in
I've done quite a few tile jobs and I still felt that this was very helpful. I liked the way the presenter patiently gave explanations and explained why things were preferable.
this is an excellent and informative video. thank you for the in depth explainations as i will need them because i have uneven and out of plumb walls in my shower.
Great video - as a complete novice I found this video extremely comprehensive - I certainly didn't find it repetitive. I especially liked the tips on filling the bath, using white spirit and masking tape - all tricks of the trade that I would never have thought of. Now off to rip the existing silicone from the bath and redo it - wish me luck!!!
Hi everyone,I was thinking of doing my bathroom in tiles so thought I would try do it myself.watched lots of vids and this one did me best for the information it gave me,it's also good to see other people's take on things.thank you.
Thanks for taking the time to write in Lee, good luck with your tiling.
Great video. Pretty much the way I do it as well. Have not used a gauge rod before, but used a tape marked the same way. Gauge rods for different size tiles will make the job a lot easier. Always good to learn things. I have also made templates out of plastic shim to fit most door frames here in Australia which makes marking a floor tile for cutting a lot easier.
Thanks for the feedback Ramjet, yes we are always up for learning new stuff. Great to hear from you
Great video, very good explanations and tutorial. I have learned quite few new things. Thanks a lot.
Thanks for that Makram
The same method is used in Greece, with the difference that instead of wooden sticks use metal rod 20mm by 40mm!!! Nice job.
Good video. Very clear.
Fantastic video Im a painter decorated by trade and was asked by a customer if I tile I said nope she asked did I wanted to try I said sure so 46 boxes later she's extremely happy with the end result just wouldn't recommend using glass tiles as a border if its your first time but thanks for this video it helped greatly.
Thanks for your feedback Lee. Yes, as we have said below, this is a great method for beginners (and we also have a lot prprofessionals who stilluse a guage rod as holding a tape verticaly is not always too accurate) and mistakes cannot be made this way. I'm glad your job turned out well and you have another string to your bow.
I am, and have been looking to take up tiling, and am looking for a course in "tiling" can you maybe recommend someone that can give me some tips or any courses
how do you get the line straight, going through the pipe of the toilet accurate as this could throw the tiling off
Where you have that vertical pencil line so close to the bath, aren't you going to have a skinny column of tiles next to the bath?
Hi is it recommended to start on tiling the floor or walls first or doesnt it matter???
comments off tradesmen who know it all so predictable I think this is a great video and I like to stay open to learning new things I have worked with some people and they never had one good thing to say about anyone's work, yet there own wasn't that good, you don't wanna do it like that yer wanna do it like this good clear video this for anyone who fancies having a go at it it gives them.a good chance at success I like the vid
+Ady Simm Thanks for that Ady. Very true, in 45 years in the trade I have found its the cretins that spend all their time pulling others work apart that produce the least - and the worst work.
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Apologies if you think we are repeating ourselves a bit, we are only trying to hammer home the point that the end result will only be as good as the preparation that you put in at the beginning.
Tiling around the cistern??
Setting out for tiling 3 walls in a kitchen worktop to ceiling would you recommend to center the tiling on the box for the fan in the corner of the room or would you center the tiling on that box and let that rule the placement of the tiling on the 2 walls connected to that corner built out?
We would set out the walls for the main room using the method in the video JN. We would treat the box separately and tile it according to its size. IE tile the walls first. This will obviously dictate the horizontal joint height on the boxing. Then tile the box in the most attractive visual way making sure (as we have showed with the walls) that you do not have tiny little cuts at either end or in the corner of the box.
DIY Doctor Thank you for the clear answer, most helpful and appreciated. I take it as the tiling of the middle wall is also to be treated separately when it comes to the vertical alignment instead of setting out from the main focus area ie the 45 degree corner stove built out. Thans again!
When tiling floor and walls in bathroom do you tile walls first and then floor or floor then walls
+Linda Robinson Using the batten method Linda, we start from the 2nd course (row) of tiles and complete the walls. Then we lay the floor and finish by laying the bottom row of wall tiles by cutting theminto the floor. Hope this helps
Thank you
Do you tile to the floor on the walls and then lay floor to these tiles
ISNT THE EASIER WAY IS TO MEASURE MIDDLE OF WALL AND THEN CHECK SIZE OF EACH CUT EACH END?
Many people do it this way Graham but this involves firstly marking the middle of the wall then placing a tile along the wall, marking where each tile finishes, then adding a joint, them movng the tile again and so on. There are 4 walls in a bathroom, all have to be set out and if the bathroom is medium to large this method takes ages. It can also lead to mistakes in settin out. Spending 5 minutes marking a guage rod means you can check each wall in seconds and dont have to keep moving a tile and covering the wall in pencil marks. It also shows you where each tile lies in respet to the bath, basin and any other obstructions that have to be cut round so you can (for example) move the guage so that its possible to get a full tile running down the side of the bath just by changing the cut at one end of the bathroom so it is slightly larger or smaller than the other end.. If you use the "moving the tile" method, and ths situation arises, you have to start all over again moving the tiles to mark the cuts. A guage rod is used by pretty much every trade on site, brickies, roof tilers, roofing chippies.....Its the easiest way of seeing at a glance where the cuts go and what is required to get a neat, symetrical job without continually measuring or moving the item/s to be fitted.
Brilliant. Thanks
tile floor first make sure it is level first wall tile goes on top , this guy is mad
Hi James, with respect many bathroom floor are either already tiled or the owners have no intention of tiling on the floor. Even if they are the first tile never goes onto an existing surface or against an existing fitting (door frame, skirting, bathe etc) unless you can be positive it is 100% level overall. 99% of tiled floors have a few tiles round the perimeter which are level, but just as many that are not and on DIY Doctor we are dealing with home-improvers, not tradesmen. Home Improvers do not necessarily know how to get out of trouble once they get into it and a floor tiles which is even 2mm out of level can throw the wallout by a long way by the time you reach the top. Putting a batten, 100% level round the room first is the proper tradesmans way of tiling walls, even when the floor has been tiled first.
DIY Doctor Instead of using batten just mark a level line around the perimeter of the room, the line been where your bottom cut will fall, saves having to remove the batten and then cut to the tile that would of been sat on the batten in the first place, using a batten is only for if your floor is going to be tiled after the wall tiling, you should never tile a floor against a wall tile. I would recommend tiling floor first and then pinging a level pencil line around in the same way to where you gauged the height to. Also same applies to skirting, bath and shower trays. Good to see a wizard stick. Do not use 5mm in the wall tiles, use 2mm for a neater finish and if you use 5mm make sure your grout goes up to that width otherwise you will have problems.
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The batten is not just for level JB it is for sitting your first course of tiles on.No adhesive (regardless of what it says on the tub) is "slip proof" and if you stick tiles to a pencil line they will drop down. Tiling the wallfrom course 2 upwards (on a batten) allows you to tile the walls first then tile the floor right to the edges before you cut your last tile down to the floor.This allows you to tile all of the walls without walking about on the new floor and dropping adhesive,grout and other tiles on it. The batten appraoch has been accepted by the trade since Roman times and is the best way of achieving a level, clean bathroom. Making the bottom course the last tiles you lay allow you to cut absolutely perfectly to maintain an exact joint size, this cannot be achieved with a pencil line.
You must of misunderstood me, i was saying that as long as you have the floor laid first then you won't need any battens because you just cut *TO* the pencil line (for some reason i think you think i meant mark a pencil line and sit full tiles on it haha). It is far far quicker this way, you get a perfect joint size and level and dont have to mess about with battens. So aslong as your floor can be put down first then you wont need battens and any decent tiler wont make a mess dropping adhesives on the newly laid ungrouted floor as they will tidy as they go. Wouldnt like to try using battens in a wet room and penetrating the tanking nailing them all around. I'm a professional tile fitter and battens are a waste of time.
3 things wrong with this method. Firstly, 99% of the time there is no fllor to lay. The floor covering already exists, either in wood,vinyl, carpet or laminate and the home improver has no intention of laying floor tiles. Secondly, you never lay the floor first if the walls are bing tiled as you then have to stand on it to lay the wall tiles. This is one of the reasons for the batten; it allows you to get all of the walls done (except the last course down to the floor) before you lay the floor. No adhesive, grout, tools or tiles can then fall on a tiled floor as it isn't tiled. Thirdly floors are never level. They may be flat, but are rarely level
Good video but wouldn't it be better to tile behind the edges of the bath and wash basin before they are fitted rather than tile to the edges?
In an ideal world Brian, thats exactly what we would do but most DIYers or home improvers are busy learning one set of skills at a time and having them take out baths and basins etc before tiling wall to wall is a little over the top for them. Thanks for taking the time to comment
Theres more to it than that...you also got to think about ur top and bottom of window,top of ur door frames, any boxing that mite be in ur bathroom,ceiling and floor,shower outlets.etc ..take a little more time also to think of these to get ur tiles to look even more better..trick is to try and av no little cuts for best look
Sure is Nathan, thanks for writing in. The rest of the tiling series is covered on the website and another series of videos. Glad you are enjoying them.
why tile round the cistern ?????
Because most home improvers want their walls tiled fully Mark but are very scared of plumbing. Asking them to take the cistern off to tile behind it would result in thousands of emails asking for an alternative. Please try and remember these videos are guide tutorials for people trying to get some experience at DIY. They are not necessarily the best way to do it and certainly (in a lot of cases) the way we would do it on site, but asking a DIYer who is trying to save money through DIY to either call in a plumber to remove a cistern, or learn basic plumbing themselves is not what they want to do. We only provide what our feedback tells us is required and with100,000 people watching our videos every month we feel we pretty much have that covered. Thanks for taking the time to comment
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didnt agree with alot of his methods but hey tiling isnt for everybody
Theres always a few ways to do every trade job Sharna. We only explain how we do it but many people do it differently.
Exactly ..
your walls are plumb not level.....just saying
Christ on a bike!! Ive not seen a staff stick in about 20 years....
Lost interest after 12 minutes. Please stop repeating everything...