Fun Fact: There are at least 2 different methods of achieving Stargates in the Star Wars setting. But the races that developed them hid or erased the knowledge, or went extinct. The Gree and the Kwa both figured it out, then realized it was a bad idea. They're gone now.
@@stevenkempton7469 No, that was Stargate SG-1. It was either the episode "Lost City Part 2" from Season 7 or "New Order Part 1" from Season 8, when they flew the Goa'uld cargo ship with the hyperdrive O'Neill modified with knowledge of the Ancients. Both episodes showed the ship passing through a hue-shifted and rapid version of the standard hyperspace effect to denote how much faster the ship could move thanks to the modifications. The second example was arguably more insane since they were able to reach a completely uncharted galaxy to contact the Asgard and try to help Jack. Really spoke to Carter being sharp as can be, since even the slightest miscalculation in plotting that long of a course would put them millions or even billions of light-years off course. I did always find it funny how similar to Star Wars hyperspace the effect in the SG series looked. And then JJ Abrams made warp travel resemble it, too. Maybe the excuse could be made that the blue coloration is a result of Cherenkov Radiation in any case, but it's gotten a little too broadly-used.
Na-uh, Rey showed us that all you had to do was yank out a thingy and then you can travel wherever and whenever you want without any concequences. And then we had general Lea who could defeat the entire imperial armada if you just gave her enough shuttles with a hyperspace engine.
I remember one of the SW novels from the 90s involved a revenge act against the villain of the story, I believe it was a Yevetha (not sure of spelling). They put one in an escape pod without hyperdrive, and ejected it while the main ship was in hyperspace. The guy who did it said that there was no way for the pod to get out of hyperspace, and the Yevetha would age normally, meaning yearrs trapped, or at least until it starved to death. Creepy indeed. I forgot the name of the novel, but the one who did it was a former imperial who escaped a POW camp avenging himself against a former tormenter. He said that when he was on active duty he was part of an experiment that discovered no way to escape hyperdrive without a hyperdrive.
Laws of... it is fantasy you know right? He would be no more amazed than he would have been by Jules Vern's 20000 leagues under the sea. Now if we are talking about warp field mechanics, which DOES have a real life mechanics and potential to be something REAL, then yes he would probably be astounded.
That last reason sounds like a Sephen King novel on existential horror of time traveling through space while consciously staring into the cosmos during its duration. I cannot recall the name of the book, and tried to look it up based on genre and sypnosis, but to no avail. Anyway, after humanity has discovered the way to travel through the space-time continuum, they first test it on a rat. After the rat comes out on the other side of the portal, it looks as though it had ust seen a ghost, falls over and dies. So humanity must time travel in an unconscious state in order to arrive on the other side successfully, with their life and sanity intact. However, a human that did make it out alive did not come out the same way. He was traumatized, disheveled, and clinically insane. He described viewing time traveling through the cosmos as staring into Eternity itself, feeling as though one were trapped and lost in space, forever stagnant. I had a feeling this video would mention something similar to this concept!
You're referring to "The Jaunt". It's not quite a novel, just a short story, and the only one of his works I ever tried reading. It's terrifying, and I only got halfway through it before I swore off Stephen King forever.
The ending is especially terrifying. There is some debate as to whether it's just the perception of time being so distorted and the mind being so utterly without stimulation for what seems like eternity that causes insanity, or whether there is something within that causes it. Theories exist which connect the Dark Tower or It to the same continuity, since those two storylines already have a link between them.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel That explanation sounds about right. It probably is the distortion of time within your own mind, but what exactly did mean by the cause possibly being something else within? I did not realize that the Dark Tower series and It had a connection between them, so that is interesting. DO you think that the effects of looking into the Deadlights is equivalent to gazing into hyperspace? That thing is an eldritch being from deep space after all.
Maybe hyperspace is just the warp, and the Star wars Galaxy has just a super chill warp where things haven't gotten as wrong, and maybe the imbalance in the Force is just the seed that could degenerate into the full blown Chaos of W40k ?
@@raphaelbentegeac Interesting how one of the common qualities of someone who is force sensitive is being a good pilot. This mirrors how psychers are needed to traverse the warp in 40k. Tbh, I feel like The force and Hyperspace are what The warp could have been like before the war in heaven thoroughly traumatized it, turning it into a roiling hellscape.
True but to be fair, hyperspace seems to be mostly if not entirely uninhabited(Ik star weirds can get in their and so can some space born animals) of native life so it's just the environment that makes it sketchy should you fuck something up while there, or have your computer glitch or whatever. Shit from real space can actually exist in hyperspace perfectly fine while traveling, so while dangerous and fucky it's more like a fast river than anything else I can compare it to. It's actually kinda like the webway in some sense. Non standard chronology and fucky spacetime geometry, but overall efficient and mostly safe. The warp however is a dimension of ectoplasmic soul and psychic energy that's not only incredibly hostile to shit from the materium, it's also inhabited by extremely dangerous entities and is basically guaranteed to drive a non navigator insane by seeing it. You straight up need a geller field to even have a chance of survival, and without the astronomicon everyone would be lost, it's chronology is non existent and it has no comprehensible directionality. Id still rather break every rule of hyperspace than even 1 of the warp travel tho lol
@@IanHarrison-n9m You know, I was trying to think of a Star Wars webway and I think that would the World Between Worlds. The Webway could do a lot, but I don't think even it could nab someone just before they die in the past. I mean, the warp can cause some time shenanagins but never reliably. It's kinda weird to think the Celestials were greater than the Old Ones in some ways.
@classarank7youtubeherokeyb63 The webway and warp dont have the same kind of chronological connection to the material galaxy that the world between worlds does, at least not on their own. The webway won't snatch anyone up bc it's psychically attuned to the eldar and only really wants them in it, and only the harlequins can actually reliably navigate it. It's a closed off separate realm of subspace within the warp but shielded from it so outside webway gates, while inside you're operating under a completely different scheme of time. Like there are sections that can force you into time loops, while still compatible with other sections that don't. The warp is even weirder, on its own warp time travel is generally mostly skipping forward since the linear flow of time in real space means absolutely nothing to the warp. Every possibility exists at once, like slaanesh is and has been considered to be alive, dead, not born yet and being born all at once. The emperor big brained his way to a golden life support throne by scrying through countless futures. Forward motion seems to be the most common form, but backwards happens more often than you'd think, and even weirder, it doesnt seem to enforce paradoxes. An orc went back in time and killed himself for a copy of his favorite shoota and despite that destroying waaagh he was leading, and killed him, it didn't erase the events and effects of their waaagh in the timeline or displace anything currently, both just..... Happened. Imperial ships report arrival to their destination before they left and I can't think of a time that caused any problems outside general logistics. Seems like for the physics of 40k the warp at least can do what the world between worlds does, it just wasn't designed to writing wise and 40k lore is convoluted enough without time travel without paradoxes but also with it bc half the shit in the lore can't be trusted anyway. Also fun fact there's a door that can be used to freely time travel whenever you want with precision. It's just an asshole and you need to be very very powerful as a psyker for it not to fuck you over instead. That door is how some inquisitors fought the Tyranids centuries before they arrived and went back in time. Tbh the warp can be used to do anything as long as you have a author smart enough to think of the idea and able to translate the BS into 40k magictechnobabble. "Warp fuckery" is a near universally accepted reason for a lot of really ridiculous things for a reason lmao The old ones ain't shit fr they had the paradise warp and immorality how tf do you fumble that lead by denying essentially a galactic scale make a wish by not at least stabilizing the necrontyr genome to cure their species wide super cancer. I get not making them immortal just bc they asked but bruh they were basically gods they could have thrown them a bone at least
Something tells me that the Galaxy Gun, if perfected, would have been a better and more effective superweapon than either Death Star. A lot cheaper, too.
I am surprised you didn't mention 'The Great Hyperspace Disaster'. One of the few bits of Disney-canon that works pretty well and becomes central to Cal Kestis' ongoing (also pretty decent) story.
I remember a novel in the expanded universe where Han launched the villain of the story out into hyperspace when he hid in an escape pod. That is a horrible way to die.
Has Star Wars ever given concrete answers for how long a trip through hyperspace actually takes? It was less than a minute in Fallen Order and in The Clone Wars it just happened during a scene transition.
There's also the Known Space/Ringworld version of Hyperspace. Mass shadows are a thing there, too. But one notable thing is that the human brain doesn't want to see Hyperspace. It creates a blindspot that the brain fills in with the surrounding imagery, stretching the frame over the window. And if you're left with no other choice, you'll be psychosomatically blind until you can look at something that's not Hyperspace. It's kind of like noclipping out of the level in the old Doom games.
Disney completely ditched the mass shadow concept, except for interdictors. They made hyperspace like going on and off ramps for a highway unfortunately. And completely got rid of any concept of time actually passing. Hyperspace skipping broke it horribly, and it doesn't even make sense anymore.
They need to accelerate to a significant fraction of the speed of light before entering hyperspace. Also the major hyperlanes are also better mapped out, and constantly monitored. It’s not as important with short jumps, like say 100 light years. But, for trips of tens of thousands of light years. Just because you have the known location of “fixed” star systems and/or of stars or planets that you can see, does not mean that you have their up to date information or about the rogue and/or dark objects. Which makes taking a hyper lane is a must for safety. Also, interdictors project gravity wells, rather than create artificial ones. It’s like an inhibiting field that triggers the safeties or fuses on hyperdrives. When they encounter such a field, the hyperspace computer interprets it as a mass shadow of a gravity well, and shuts down to prevent “falling in”.
Just think of it like how when the master in Doctor Who was told to stare at it for days hours, and then he became mad mad because they were voices in his head. Drum would be in his head. Imagine sorry for the spoiling but considering the situation point is the time Lord one and out and they were going to use an innocent voice. He became mad because he could hear the hyper state line. God bless you and Jesus loves you
Crosscurrent mentioned 🗣️🗣️ That was my first Legends book. I got it at a Border’s around 2010 or so when I was a kid. It was definitely above my level
If a hyperspace collision is that deadly, you could just create unmanned vessels that crash and destroy a planet, negating the need for a death star and star killer base. not sure that i buy the reasoning it wasn't used either.
You could even do that with the existing tech. The pods for the Imperial Probe Droids (the one that reported the base on Hoth) are hyperdrive-equipped, at least enough for a 1-way deployment. Just build and launch more of those pods.
Fun Fact: Star Wars has 'warp drives' like in Star Trek. they're called Dimensional Displacement Drives, and nobody uses them. They're very, very, very slow compared to Hyperdrive technology, and take thousands of times the power to operate, and can only be put on very large vessels. Hyperdrives run off of car batteries, and can be made to fit on something the size of an F-22, and cost less than 10% of a D3. Also, they're less likely to explode when used.
I don't see why mishaps would stop anyone from engaging in what is considered a necessity. A reality of life is that the chance of any misfortune is never zero; Would you refuse to drive a car merely because the possibility existed that you would be caught in a fatal accident? would you refuse to live in a home fearing any number of the things surrounding you might catch fire or spell your doom?
I mean, I do. I don't even have a license and feel a sense of dread anytime I'm walking on the sidewalk of a busy road, knowing any moment a car could veer out of control and end my life like it was nothing. That said, everyone I know thinks I'm crazy, well technically I'm officially crazy too but that's another story. Some how, the idea of hyperspace travel terrifies me even more than cars, but that's only because I have an intense fear of liminal spaces and endless expanses, even regular space travel would be a big no no for me, unless it's like via a massive planet sized space station or something like that.
@@Ristaak I totally get understanding that anything can happen and at any moment that ends our life, but to let it rule someone's life so thoroughly to an extent of being unable to utilize something so pervasive seems like a phobia. Being a person who loves space it's not something I could see myself fearing despite all the unknowns.
There's also the risk of a hyperdrive malfunction that makes you go through hyperspace and end up on the other side, or "Otherspace" as it's called. The inhabitants are not friendly, but they are less dangerous than Chaos griblies at least...
I think I understand. Hyperspace is part of real space,and has shadows of real objects,asteroids for example. I think there's nothing wrong looking into hyperspace while traveling. I would be careful of course. Tell us more dark holoccrons. May the Force be with you too
Man I love the lore on space and hyperspace because of everything that goes into it and I think it’s so fascinating and awesome and also I’m loving these horror lore videos I think they’re so interesting and cool 😎
Thank you for this holocron! I would still travel through hyperspace if I needed. By the statistics, it’s still likely safer than a car or an airplane - so long as you have a good nav computer and current star charts. The idea of mass shadows is terrifying. One thing that is unclear to me is where the mass shadow resides relative to its real-space equivalent. Poe Dameron uses hyperspace skipping in “The Rise of Skywalker” to evade the First Order. Those skips show the ship literally skipping between terrestrial atmospheres. In canon, these types of atmospheric jumps are clearly possible (if perhaps suicidal), but it opens the question of what area is covered by a mass shadow. Do we have an answer to this in lore that doesn’t involve out-of-lore critiques of Disney’s grasp of Star Wars lore?
If I remember correctly, at the end of the book trilogy about the Yevethans and how they had I think overthrown their Imperial overlords and enslaved them in kind and took their fleet which included a Super Star Destroyer they called Pride of Yevetha, when the Yevethans were defeated and the Imperials regained control or whatever it was happened, the punishment for the alien leader was to put him in an escape pod and be ejected while flying through hyperspace so he would be abandoned in the other dimension forever to rot in his escape pod. I though that was some massively based revenge when I read that.
I remember playing Jedi outcast and I would just put the game on 1st person view and stare into hyperspace for 10 minutes. Sometimes I would put no clip on and go outside and look at the easter egg.
Normal space is us on the surface of the Rubik’s cube, us traveling through hyperspace is like the whole Rubik’s cube is traveled through not just the surface so the insides are all able to be traveled through. It’s easier to think of the earth as a mini hypercube and then as we use relativity to map it and understand the potential and travel to and become connected to the other potentials within the earths range. The universe is the same but hard to understand because we don’t normally see that stuff or that far from the relatives. Time is expansive not linear so it reveals nature in the cube and as we expand we can share into the differences. Think math as well when i talk. I’m not limiting my words to one meaning. It’s hard to understand how one could believe in infinity but we understand by connection and reflection. Technology is a sort of difference in the relative that can bridge gaps between. Like xrays and not being able to see them and then tech allows us to share with the xrays and the potentials. Humans see multidimensional because the nature that we emerged from, multiple dimensions that are relative entangling and sharing, nothing is lost. So what we see is hard to understand or find the connection to the current but it’s not as simple as how we currently see reality. It is but we aren’t as close as the brain can see. It’s like seeing the goal and then finding out how in multiple dimensions and bridging the gap.
There seems to be some sort of link between Star Wars Hyper-space and The Warp in Warhammer 40K. I'd like to know when the lore about Hyperspace was first introduced.
They go hundreds of times the speed of light in Star Trek and Stargate but they don't in Star wars. He said the millennium falcon only did 5 past light speed and I think Vader's personal ship to only go like two times light speed which makes no sense cuz they get there very fast. That's kind of a whole hole in the entire Stargate universe but it's still a hell of a legendarium
a chance to get off this rock . . heck yeah. using hyperspace drive cocoons ship and occupants from time dilation. hyper-rapture sounds something like highway hypnosis, staring at the never-ending abyss sends you into a trance.
You must be an impostor. Bothan spy, perhaps? The real Sidious has an "o" in his name, first off, and secondly has no problem with using machines to make his life easier. Remember the giant motorized office chair that spins itself and has all those buttons right at Palpatine's fingertips? Jokes aside, why tho? If it saves time that can be otherwise spent on scripts for future videos, why spend that time on handmade thumbnails? I use AI to generate statblocks and HoloNet articles for my Star Wars d20 group, saves soooo much time.
@@darthsidius9631 Gotcha. Wasn't sure if you might be one of those people who hate AI the same way their great-great-great-grandparents hated steam engines and electricity. Was gearing up for a good debate lol.
yes please vidoes about hyperspace would be good perhpas vadr was already so totured that he was alreadys ome what mad thus was a sper informative video
The issue I have with videos like this is it's always an attempt and "backslpaining" the nonsense that Lucas wrote. FFS, he thought that a parsec was a measurement of time. They had a chart of the speeds of ships, measured, I'm not kidding you, in "megalights". What was a megalight? I don't know. And neither did the people who made the charts. It was simply that "more megalights" is faster than "fewer megalights". So, while I do love videos that make sense of sci-fi concepts, here you're applying logic and technical concepts to a storyline that was written on pure nonsense.
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This must be why Vader loved staring into hyperspace...
Very true. Lol
Love how you snuck in a Stargate screenshot there.
That was star gate Atlantis.
Fun Fact: There are at least 2 different methods of achieving Stargates in the Star Wars setting. But the races that developed them hid or erased the knowledge, or went extinct. The Gree and the Kwa both figured it out, then realized it was a bad idea. They're gone now.
@@stevenkempton7469so, not stargate?
@@enobnala90 technically, no.
@@stevenkempton7469 No, that was Stargate SG-1. It was either the episode "Lost City Part 2" from Season 7 or "New Order Part 1" from Season 8, when they flew the Goa'uld cargo ship with the hyperdrive O'Neill modified with knowledge of the Ancients. Both episodes showed the ship passing through a hue-shifted and rapid version of the standard hyperspace effect to denote how much faster the ship could move thanks to the modifications.
The second example was arguably more insane since they were able to reach a completely uncharted galaxy to contact the Asgard and try to help Jack. Really spoke to Carter being sharp as can be, since even the slightest miscalculation in plotting that long of a course would put them millions or even billions of light-years off course.
I did always find it funny how similar to Star Wars hyperspace the effect in the SG series looked. And then JJ Abrams made warp travel resemble it, too. Maybe the excuse could be made that the blue coloration is a result of Cherenkov Radiation in any case, but it's gotten a little too broadly-used.
Vader getting lost and meditating while staring into hyperspace suggests a possible connection between hyperspace and the Force 🤔
there's a connection between everything and the force
“Space is big. Really, really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is”.
When you end up in Neptune's high orbit, you know it's bad.
I see what you did!!!
Tiens une fleur de lys serait tu un compatriote ?
Getting Lost in hyperspace will be so terrifying you do more Halloween star wars stories every Halloween season 🎃😊
Ever try using punctuation?
While it’s true that you shouldn’t get caught in Hyperspace, you should also not get caught trying to jump into Hyperspace…just ask Han Solo.
Cowboy Bebop (the anime) had at least two episodes where ships were lost in hyperspace lanes. The ship and people could never leave
Vader was a true psychonaut
Na-uh, Rey showed us that all you had to do was yank out a thingy and then you can travel wherever and whenever you want without any concequences.
And then we had general Lea who could defeat the entire imperial armada if you just gave her enough shuttles with a hyperspace engine.
I don't remember much about those last two movies. So bad.
I remember one of the SW novels from the 90s involved a revenge act against the villain of the story, I believe it was a Yevetha (not sure of spelling). They put one in an escape pod without hyperdrive, and ejected it while the main ship was in hyperspace. The guy who did it said that there was no way for the pod to get out of hyperspace, and the Yevetha would age normally, meaning yearrs trapped, or at least until it starved to death. Creepy indeed.
I forgot the name of the novel, but the one who did it was a former imperial who escaped a POW camp avenging himself against a former tormenter. He said that when he was on active duty he was part of an experiment that discovered no way to escape hyperdrive without a hyperdrive.
Hiya! You're thinking of Nil Spaar, from the book 'Shield of Lies'
A wild Tzeentch appears!
"It's most common."
"We have no known instances of it occurring."
Pick one.
So that's why Hyperspace looks like the opening credits of Doctor Who.
YUP! I was going to Comment that one too, lol! Like, a Time-Lord or Lady, accidently BONKS the Falcon, for instance!🤣
0:33 "Eww...you got Stargate in my Star Wars!" 😄
What's wrong with Stargate?
“You got Star Wars in my Stargate”
Lol i was gonna ask if anyone else noticed that. Nothing wrong with stargate tho those shows are awesome
Stargate>Starwars
@@michaellowe7170 wouldn't mind a wraith crossover into the swu
Einstein would be amazed if he study the laws of hyperspace.
I know
Laws of... it is fantasy you know right? He would be no more amazed than he would have been by Jules Vern's 20000 leagues under the sea. Now if we are talking about warp field mechanics, which DOES have a real life mechanics and potential to be something REAL, then yes he would probably be astounded.
Thus is the stupidest comment I've seen in the last several seconds.
That last reason sounds like a Sephen King novel on existential horror of time traveling through space while consciously staring into the cosmos during its duration. I cannot recall the name of the book, and tried to look it up based on genre and sypnosis, but to no avail.
Anyway, after humanity has discovered the way to travel through the space-time continuum, they first test it on a rat. After the rat comes out on the other side of the portal, it looks as though it had ust seen a ghost, falls over and dies. So humanity must time travel in an unconscious state in order to arrive on the other side successfully, with their life and sanity intact.
However, a human that did make it out alive did not come out the same way. He was traumatized, disheveled, and clinically insane. He described viewing time traveling through the cosmos as staring into Eternity itself, feeling as though one were trapped and lost in space, forever stagnant. I had a feeling this video would mention something similar to this concept!
You're referring to "The Jaunt". It's not quite a novel, just a short story, and the only one of his works I ever tried reading. It's terrifying, and I only got halfway through it before I swore off Stephen King forever.
@edwintasto8532 Yes! I thought it was unique to his usual style of writing, but it was very disturbing with lovecraftian elements to it.
The ending is especially terrifying. There is some debate as to whether it's just the perception of time being so distorted and the mind being so utterly without stimulation for what seems like eternity that causes insanity, or whether there is something within that causes it. Theories exist which connect the Dark Tower or It to the same continuity, since those two storylines already have a link between them.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel That explanation sounds about right. It probably is the distortion of time within your own mind, but what exactly did mean by the cause possibly being something else within?
I did not realize that the Dark Tower series and It had a connection between them, so that is interesting. DO you think that the effects of looking into the Deadlights is equivalent to gazing into hyperspace? That thing is an eldritch being from deep space after all.
Hyperspace looks like the concept of the void from warframe but a lot less horrifying
Everything is a lot less horrifying than it's Warhammer counterpart...
A whole lot better than traffic in L.A. - I'll take it
As someone who's a fan of Warhammer 40,000, the horrors of Hyperspace are quite literally 'easy mode' compared to the average jump through the Warp...
Maybe hyperspace is just the warp, and the Star wars Galaxy has just a super chill warp where things haven't gotten as wrong, and maybe the imbalance in the Force is just the seed that could degenerate into the full blown Chaos of W40k ?
Don't forget that everyone who dies has their soul go to the Warp, where it either dissolves into nothing or is consumed by daemons.
@@raphaelbentegeac Hyperspace feels more like the webway
Warhammer sucks, just trash canon to fuel steroid jacked doods. There is no entertainment value whatsoever in 40k
@@raphaelbentegeac Interesting how one of the common qualities of someone who is force sensitive is being a good pilot.
This mirrors how psychers are needed to traverse the warp in 40k.
Tbh, I feel like The force and Hyperspace are what The warp could have been like before the war in heaven thoroughly traumatized it, turning it into a roiling hellscape.
Ah, well, hyperspace rapture and accidental time travel....still better than anything the warhammer 40k warp has to offer ;)
Well it's safer than warp travel in a human ship. xD
True but to be fair, hyperspace seems to be mostly if not entirely uninhabited(Ik star weirds can get in their and so can some space born animals) of native life so it's just the environment that makes it sketchy should you fuck something up while there, or have your computer glitch or whatever. Shit from real space can actually exist in hyperspace perfectly fine while traveling, so while dangerous and fucky it's more like a fast river than anything else I can compare it to. It's actually kinda like the webway in some sense. Non standard chronology and fucky spacetime geometry, but overall efficient and mostly safe.
The warp however is a dimension of ectoplasmic soul and psychic energy that's not only incredibly hostile to shit from the materium, it's also inhabited by extremely dangerous entities and is basically guaranteed to drive a non navigator insane by seeing it. You straight up need a geller field to even have a chance of survival, and without the astronomicon everyone would be lost, it's chronology is non existent and it has no comprehensible directionality.
Id still rather break every rule of hyperspace than even 1 of the warp travel tho lol
@@IanHarrison-n9m You know, I was trying to think of a Star Wars webway and I think that would the World Between Worlds. The Webway could do a lot, but I don't think even it could nab someone just before they die in the past. I mean, the warp can cause some time shenanagins but never reliably. It's kinda weird to think the Celestials were greater than the Old Ones in some ways.
@classarank7youtubeherokeyb63 The webway and warp dont have the same kind of chronological connection to the material galaxy that the world between worlds does, at least not on their own. The webway won't snatch anyone up bc it's psychically attuned to the eldar and only really wants them in it, and only the harlequins can actually reliably navigate it. It's a closed off separate realm of subspace within the warp but shielded from it so outside webway gates, while inside you're operating under a completely different scheme of time. Like there are sections that can force you into time loops, while still compatible with other sections that don't.
The warp is even weirder, on its own warp time travel is generally mostly skipping forward since the linear flow of time in real space means absolutely nothing to the warp. Every possibility exists at once, like slaanesh is and has been considered to be alive, dead, not born yet and being born all at once. The emperor big brained his way to a golden life support throne by scrying through countless futures. Forward motion seems to be the most common form, but backwards happens more often than you'd think, and even weirder, it doesnt seem to enforce paradoxes. An orc went back in time and killed himself for a copy of his favorite shoota and despite that destroying waaagh he was leading, and killed him, it didn't erase the events and effects of their waaagh in the timeline or displace anything currently, both just..... Happened. Imperial ships report arrival to their destination before they left and I can't think of a time that caused any problems outside general logistics. Seems like for the physics of 40k the warp at least can do what the world between worlds does, it just wasn't designed to writing wise and 40k lore is convoluted enough without time travel without paradoxes but also with it bc half the shit in the lore can't be trusted anyway.
Also fun fact there's a door that can be used to freely time travel whenever you want with precision. It's just an asshole and you need to be very very powerful as a psyker for it not to fuck you over instead. That door is how some inquisitors fought the Tyranids centuries before they arrived and went back in time.
Tbh the warp can be used to do anything as long as you have a author smart enough to think of the idea and able to translate the BS into 40k magictechnobabble. "Warp fuckery" is a near universally accepted reason for a lot of really ridiculous things for a reason lmao
The old ones ain't shit fr they had the paradise warp and immorality how tf do you fumble that lead by denying essentially a galactic scale make a wish by not at least stabilizing the necrontyr genome to cure their species wide super cancer. I get not making them immortal just bc they asked but bruh they were basically gods they could have thrown them a bone at least
Something tells me that the Galaxy Gun, if perfected, would have been a better and more effective superweapon than either Death Star. A lot cheaper, too.
Probably still safer than driving on the freeway. And I'm a trucker
I am surprised you didn't mention 'The Great Hyperspace Disaster'. One of the few bits of Disney-canon that works pretty well and becomes central to Cal Kestis' ongoing (also pretty decent) story.
Flyin through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops boy.
I wonder if Vaders helmet protected him from the dangers of staring at hyperspace? Or his affinity with the Force.
Bring a map - got it. 😂
I remember a novel in the expanded universe where Han launched the villain of the story out into hyperspace when he hid
in an escape pod.
That is a horrible way to die.
Has Star Wars ever given concrete answers for how long a trip through hyperspace actually takes? It was less than a minute in Fallen Order and in The Clone Wars it just happened during a scene transition.
There's also the Known Space/Ringworld version of Hyperspace. Mass shadows are a thing there, too.
But one notable thing is that the human brain doesn't want to see Hyperspace. It creates a blindspot that the brain fills in with the surrounding imagery, stretching the frame over the window.
And if you're left with no other choice, you'll be psychosomatically blind until you can look at something that's not Hyperspace.
It's kind of like noclipping out of the level in the old Doom games.
Disney completely ditched the mass shadow concept, except for interdictors. They made hyperspace like going on and off ramps for a highway unfortunately. And completely got rid of any concept of time actually passing. Hyperspace skipping broke it horribly, and it doesn't even make sense anymore.
I'm not a Halloween fan, but these obscure, "horror" tales are very entertaining as well as informative.
Never get caught in the stupendous wave ;)
Odd how it is so chaotic and dangerous, but they still figured out how to travel with it and map it out.
here i am, wanting even more information about hyperspace.
Need more hyperspace videos. This is cool af
They need to accelerate to a significant fraction of the speed of light before entering hyperspace.
Also the major hyperlanes are also better mapped out, and constantly monitored. It’s not as important with short jumps, like say 100 light years. But, for trips of tens of thousands of light years. Just because you have the known location of “fixed” star systems and/or of stars or planets that you can see, does not mean that you have their up to date information or about the rogue and/or dark objects. Which makes taking a hyper lane is a must for safety.
Also, interdictors project gravity wells, rather than create artificial ones. It’s like an inhibiting field that triggers the safeties or fuses on hyperdrives. When they encounter such a field, the hyperspace computer interprets it as a mass shadow of a gravity well, and shuts down to prevent “falling in”.
I mean if I wanted to get off planet, there really ain't no way around hyperspace travel
I'd go through it. No more dangerous than driving in New York during rush hour
It is also known to be the dwelling place of the Star Weird in the outer edges and uncharted areas of the galaxy.
I would still traverse…. I don’t think I’m just staring at it like Vader though.
and this is on top of the beings and monsters that exist in hyperspace and prey on travelers
Still sounds more friendly than a trip through a matter energy transporter
Just think of it like how when the master in Doctor Who was told to stare at it for days hours, and then he became mad mad because they were voices in his head. Drum would be in his head. Imagine sorry for the spoiling but considering the situation point is the time Lord one and out and they were going to use an innocent voice. He became mad because he could hear the hyper state line. God bless you and Jesus loves you
0:32 - That how fast they travel?
Wowza.
But we'll all be dead by the time that becomes a reality 🙁
12 parasecs
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Does that have something to do with the Kessel run? 😏
@EAcapuccino yeah lol
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Harrison Ford would be proud! 😄
@@benanderson3784 Isn't a parsec a measurment of distance and not time?
So that’s what happened to that droid from the clone wars arc with D squad….goodness
Crosscurrent mentioned 🗣️🗣️
That was my first Legends book. I got it at a Border’s around 2010 or so when I was a kid. It was definitely above my level
…I’ll also NEVER get caught in the Hyperdome in Logan.
Love the channel, sir.
Always quality.
If a hyperspace collision is that deadly, you could just create unmanned vessels that crash and destroy a planet, negating the need for a death star and star killer base. not sure that i buy the reasoning it wasn't used either.
You could even do that with the existing tech. The pods for the Imperial Probe Droids (the one that reported the base on Hoth) are hyperdrive-equipped, at least enough for a 1-way deployment. Just build and launch more of those pods.
Awesome video
Fun Fact: Star Wars has 'warp drives' like in Star Trek. they're called Dimensional Displacement Drives, and nobody uses them. They're very, very, very slow compared to Hyperdrive technology, and take thousands of times the power to operate, and can only be put on very large vessels. Hyperdrives run off of car batteries, and can be made to fit on something the size of an F-22, and cost less than 10% of a D3. Also, they're less likely to explode when used.
This is why you need Geller fields.
The Republic ships looking head on look like jar jar binks
Thanks for this! I never thought much about the dangers of hyperspace. I would still do it 😊
I don't see why mishaps would stop anyone from engaging in what is considered a necessity. A reality of life is that the chance of any misfortune is never zero;
Would you refuse to drive a car merely because the possibility existed that you would be caught in a fatal accident? would you refuse to live in a home fearing any number of the things surrounding you might catch fire or spell your doom?
I mean, I do. I don't even have a license and feel a sense of dread anytime I'm walking on the sidewalk of a busy road, knowing any moment a car could veer out of control and end my life like it was nothing. That said, everyone I know thinks I'm crazy, well technically I'm officially crazy too but that's another story. Some how, the idea of hyperspace travel terrifies me even more than cars, but that's only because I have an intense fear of liminal spaces and endless expanses, even regular space travel would be a big no no for me, unless it's like via a massive planet sized space station or something like that.
@@Ristaak I totally get understanding that anything can happen and at any moment that ends our life, but to let it rule someone's life so thoroughly to an extent of being unable to utilize something so pervasive seems like a phobia.
Being a person who loves space it's not something I could see myself fearing despite all the unknowns.
@@festro1000 "Seems like a phobia." It is. It's not like I chose to have it lol.
Fascinating video dude, keep it up.
Thanks man!
There's also the risk of a hyperdrive malfunction that makes you go through hyperspace and end up on the other side, or "Otherspace" as it's called.
The inhabitants are not friendly, but they are less dangerous than Chaos griblies at least...
I am obsessed with hyperspace
In Minecraft terms, it’s the Nether
I think I understand. Hyperspace is part of real space,and has shadows of real objects,asteroids for example. I think there's nothing wrong looking into hyperspace while traveling. I would be careful of course. Tell us more dark holoccrons. May the Force be with you too
Man I love the lore on space and hyperspace because of everything that goes into it and I think it’s so fascinating and awesome and also I’m loving these horror lore videos I think they’re so interesting and cool 😎
Thank you for this holocron! I would still travel through hyperspace if I needed. By the statistics, it’s still likely safer than a car or an airplane - so long as you have a good nav computer and current star charts.
The idea of mass shadows is terrifying. One thing that is unclear to me is where the mass shadow resides relative to its real-space equivalent. Poe Dameron uses hyperspace skipping in “The Rise of Skywalker” to evade the First Order. Those skips show the ship literally skipping between terrestrial atmospheres. In canon, these types of atmospheric jumps are clearly possible (if perhaps suicidal), but it opens the question of what area is covered by a mass shadow. Do we have an answer to this in lore that doesn’t involve out-of-lore critiques of Disney’s grasp of Star Wars lore?
Still better than flying on a Boeing jet
Seems to me the "Crossroads" thing basically could result in a form of Limbo..
I still would travel threw hyperspace over the warp
11:25 still better than jumping through basically hell like 40k. Hell, I’d take hyper madness over Ghellar Field failure any day of the week lol
Legends: Hyperspace has horrors
Disney: Lightspeed skipping
If I remember correctly, at the end of the book trilogy about the Yevethans and how they had I think overthrown their Imperial overlords and enslaved them in kind and took their fleet which included a Super Star Destroyer they called Pride of Yevetha, when the Yevethans were defeated and the Imperials regained control or whatever it was happened, the punishment for the alien leader was to put him in an escape pod and be ejected while flying through hyperspace so he would be abandoned in the other dimension forever to rot in his escape pod. I though that was some massively based revenge when I read that.
I was expecting to hear you talking about other space too
The "crossroad" halfway between hyper and real space.... Sounds like a Force Ghost. TM
11:23 Uh...not without an expert!
THE SEAL OF ORICHALCOS
6:04 yo, that’s like terminator technology lmao.
I remember playing Jedi outcast and I would just put the game on 1st person view and stare into hyperspace for 10 minutes. Sometimes I would put no clip on and go outside and look at the easter egg.
Amazing!
I hated in the sequels the stupid hyperspace skipping its like NO! the ship itself would blow its self to pieces dropping in and out so fast
Normal space is us on the surface of the Rubik’s cube, us traveling through hyperspace is like the whole Rubik’s cube is traveled through not just the surface so the insides are all able to be traveled through. It’s easier to think of the earth as a mini hypercube and then as we use relativity to map it and understand the potential and travel to and become connected to the other potentials within the earths range. The universe is the same but hard to understand because we don’t normally see that stuff or that far from the relatives. Time is expansive not linear so it reveals nature in the cube and as we expand we can share into the differences. Think math as well when i talk. I’m not limiting my words to one meaning. It’s hard to understand how one could believe in infinity but we understand by connection and reflection. Technology is a sort of difference in the relative that can bridge gaps between. Like xrays and not being able to see them and then tech allows us to share with the xrays and the potentials. Humans see multidimensional because the nature that we emerged from, multiple dimensions that are relative entangling and sharing, nothing is lost. So what we see is hard to understand or find the connection to the current but it’s not as simple as how we currently see reality. It is but we aren’t as close as the brain can see. It’s like seeing the goal and then finding out how in multiple dimensions and bridging the gap.
I really won't want to go into Hyper Space
What about Ludicrous Speed?
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There seems to be some sort of link between Star Wars Hyper-space and The Warp in Warhammer 40K. I'd like to know when the lore about Hyperspace was first introduced.
Would you make a video about Sarasu Taalon? Propably strongest sith ever in his normal state and definitelly strongest sith in Hus final form?
Sorry about the future guys
No mention of Otherspace?
some say, tattoo-een was at fat bobs in ipswich / suffolk ( old world )
They go hundreds of times the speed of light in Star Trek and Stargate but they don't in Star wars. He said the millennium falcon only did 5 past light speed and I think Vader's personal ship to only go like two times light speed which makes no sense cuz they get there very fast. That's kind of a whole hole in the entire Stargate universe but it's still a hell of a legendarium
Wasn’t planning to 😅
a chance to get off this rock . . heck yeah.
using hyperspace drive cocoons ship and occupants from time dilation. hyper-rapture sounds something like highway hypnosis, staring at the never-ending abyss sends you into a trance.
If you gaze long enough in to the abyss, the abyss gazes back in to you...
The Wraith are Star Wars canon now
How did Master Yoda know about Darth Bane's rule of 2 when all of the other Jedi thought the Sith were extinct?
It could've been knowledge he kept to himself, he was the grand master after all
I AM THE HYPERSPACE
I love your videos
I want to see stupendous wave draw and paint he's own thumbnails instead of using ai art
You must be an impostor. Bothan spy, perhaps? The real Sidious has an "o" in his name, first off, and secondly has no problem with using machines to make his life easier. Remember the giant motorized office chair that spins itself and has all those buttons right at Palpatine's fingertips?
Jokes aside, why tho? If it saves time that can be otherwise spent on scripts for future videos, why spend that time on handmade thumbnails?
I use AI to generate statblocks and HoloNet articles for my Star Wars d20 group, saves soooo much time.
@ThorsDecree i was joking and poking stupendous wave i don't know if he's good at arts but likely he is as bad,as me resulting in awful thumbnails
@@darthsidius9631 Gotcha. Wasn't sure if you might be one of those people who hate AI the same way their great-great-great-grandparents hated steam engines and electricity. Was gearing up for a good debate lol.
@@ThorsDecree lol 👍
tripping on DMT
hyperspace in real life
you can't prove me wrong
Perception , not reality
Uninstall the brake pedal.
Electrons pop in and out of our universe. Think about it.
I would go in hyperspace if I Must...😅
yes please vidoes about hyperspace would be good perhpas vadr was already so totured that he was alreadys ome what mad
thus was a sper informative video
Alright noted never install a hyper drive on a covertable
Very cool
The issue I have with videos like this is it's always an attempt and "backslpaining" the nonsense that Lucas wrote.
FFS, he thought that a parsec was a measurement of time. They had a chart of the speeds of ships, measured, I'm not kidding you, in "megalights". What was a megalight? I don't know. And neither did the people who made the charts. It was simply that "more megalights" is faster than "fewer megalights".
So, while I do love videos that make sense of sci-fi concepts, here you're applying logic and technical concepts to a storyline that was written on pure nonsense.
Good soldiers watch early
What about starwierds?