It’s amazing how advanced the Jedi Temple’s commitment to academia is that you can write a whole thesis about a Sith Tragedy that hadn’t yet taken place yet and devote your entire life to it
Same! That debate would be one for the ages. Who knows, maybe a force battle would erupt later, with Yoda being the victor (though it would be skin of the teeth/razor thin close)
I love the idea of the Sith trying to get Vader to genuinely join them as passionately as the Jedi try to redeem Vader, with Vader stuck in the middle, subservient to Palpatine.
And this, Ladies and Gentlemen, is why Darth Plagueis is revered as "The Wise." As dark and ruthless as he was, there was always truth to his words. In the Legends Canon, Plagueis was responsible for the conception of Anakin Skywalker, through his skill at manipulating midi-chlorians. From a certain point of view, Darth Vader is speaking to his father.
Yep and I love when he tells Vader to not make the same mistakes as he did when it comes to sidious , the way plagues speaks to Vader is a way a parent speaks to their child . It’s a beautiful moment .
Darth Plagueis is my favorite Sith, alongside Darths Bane and Marr. He had a penchant for achieving all of his goals, pioneering entirely new Force powers, and gained mastery of the Midichlorians to bestow life and death at will. Crazy. Other Sith could take you out any number of ways but Plagueis could literally will you to die, like he did with King Veruna. Ironically, his only flaw was trusting one who he never should have due to creating a bond with him. He was a Sith through and through, Dark Side through and through. I greatly respect his commitment to his constantly growing his abilities and staying true to his philosophy. As he said, the power of the Dark Side is an illness no true Sith would wish to be cured of. Funnily enough, Plagueis could have fought back against Sidious but he deliberately courted death and it cost him his life. A lesson on the value of a grounded outlook and acting decisively when the moment arrives.
@@punishedvenomsnake716 The OG juggernaut. Tanking pretty much everything thrown at him. Marr, nothing needs stating. The man is badass incarnate. And Maul's rage and unhinged side just makes me smile lol
@@zalla00 Hahaha, yup, Malgus in the Deceived trailer still goes hard to this day. Love that he has his own novel and audiobook as well. Marr and Maul are fantastic choices as well, Marr for his dedication to the Empire and felling entire armies and Maul for the aesthetics and aggression. In my eyes, there was no one more worthy to be Emperor of the Sith than Darth Marr :)
@@punishedvenomsnake716 absolutely! Plagueis had reached a point where he could literally send/command your midichlorians back to the source without having to do anything physical. Like he did with the Ex King of Naboo who tried to assassinate him. It’s a bone chilling scene more scarier than any force choke or Sith Lightning. Plagueis achieved what the immortal emperor never could, achieve immortality without any Sith ritual in or feed off other life forms and live without excruciating pain. He literally mastered the foundations of life. The force via midichlorians.
I feel that through your channel we get the stories that we never got from Disney. I think that these mere few minutes of conversation between characters who would never have the opportunity to meet in the story are much more meaningful, much deeper than any of the sequels. The best part is that you feel the essence of the charaters. Especially Plagueis's. You nailed him very much and I love that you use the voice of the actor from the audio book. I know that there are other charaters in the SW universe but Plagueis content is #1 for me :D Keep up the good work. Oh and don't forget to save these videos because I fear one day you'll have copyright issues...
Imo he truly is. He was never overly cruel, not a warmonger, not a sadist. Wise in the ways of an aggressive and murderous philosophy but not over the top as Sidious or Tenebrous or even Vader. He's among the best Sith I'd say alongside Vectivus and Marr
@NerdX151 science requires sacrifice, Venamis was a subject of Plagueis's love, he said it himself. He loved the knowledge Venamis and the other subjects brought him, he cared for them and observed them to know them better than their mothers.
Plagueis' biggest mistake was having an apprentice. xD If he really thought he was the pinnacle of the Sith and that the rule of 2 expired, he never should trained Sidious. He should have just had Sith assassins or footmen, but not an actual Sith Lord alongside him. He should have known better than to train someone like Sidious, who hoards power like it's his lifeblood. Sidious killing Plagueis was actually good, as I can imagine that Yoda and the Jedi would have had harder time taking down Plagueis, who is definitely stronger than Sidious and Sidious only won through trickery.
Plagueis is basically inspiring Vader to stand up against Sidious. _No doubt that could have happened after Vader's "excursion" to Exegol between ESB and ROTJ._
Darth Vader: You would have me cast him aside? Use him as a pawn for schemes? Darth Plagueis: That is Sidious’ way, not mine. Luke is more than a pawn. He is your legacy. Together the Sith would be unmatched or you could let Sidious twist him as he twisted you. The prophecy chose you for a reason Vader. Not to serve, but to master. Not to destroy, but to reshape. Do not let your fear bind you. Let it fuel you. That was the best part.
I'd love to see a post-redemption Anakin commune with the spirits of Maul and Dooku. Would they be angry that he turned back to the light? Resentful that he defeated Palpatine, when they could not? Would they think him foolish for choosing love over power? Or perhaps even a little impressed?
This is what the sith were meant to be. Not simply evil users of the dark side. But people who could lead the galaxy without that terror sidious wanted.
Oh they always led in terror. But the difference between the past and now is that the Sith of the past were actually smart and knew how to truly utilize their power. As powerful as Sidious is, it sometimes feels like he doesn't know what he's doing half of the time. Just making things up as he goes and hopes for the best. And doesn't think about how his plans could potentially backfire.
@TimberlakeTigerGirl Well what happens when they finally achieve the end of Darth Bane's vision? When the jedi are completely wiped out and the sith rule alone. They didn't need the kind of empire Sidious had.
Man this is amazing! You do a great job. I feel myself getting goosebumps just listening to this dialogue. Imagine if real star wars was this in depth. This plus good fight scenes = Gold
You can argue that Darth Vader is talking to his father here, as Anakin was conceived through force experiments 🧪 that Darth Plagueis done, I wish Plagueis revealed he was his father and Darth Vader said: Nooooo like when Padme died or when Luke Skywalker found out Darth Vader was his father lol 😂
That's very in line with his character. He did some awful things, but his visions for the galaxy were nowhere near as extreme as Sidious', who was basically a spoiled brat who got power.
You know what would be an awesome conversation? Darth Vader and Darth Imperius (Light sided Sith Inquisitor from SWTOR) This conversation would be great as Darth Imperius devoted themselves to the Sith Empire and they could talk down to Vader by calling his passions self-centered, and that his passions should be centered around the Empire. They could show disdain for Vader's actions, especially needlessly killing Imperials as the Sith are the Empire and the Empire is the Sith, maybe even bring up that Sidious even told Vader to stop killing so many wishing not to rule a galaxy of the dead. They could also relate to Vader because they too were a slave who's chains were broken however they could point out that Vader is no true Sith since his chains are not broken but reinforced and that to be a Sith is to be free to choose their destiny.
Vader hated Sidious' empire, it wasn't Vader's vision, Vader preferred the stormtroopers and galactic police combined with a hearts and mind approach. That's why in Legends he was one of the founders of the Rebel Alliance, technically they were his separatist army against Sidious.
Once again, masterful dialogue. But I fear there is a plot error in it, a single line that disrupts the canon. This must take place between TESB & ROTJ, prior to ROTJ in any case. And here, Plagueis tells Vader the words ..."The loss of your children". Vader is not meant to know at this time that he has several children, he must only know of Luke at this time, or the epic scene in ROTJ that leads to Vader's & Luke's final duel no longer makes sense. Vader is meant to be surprised that he has a daughter, that Luke has a twin sister. He can't be that surprised of a second child, regardless if identity & even gender is still a secret, if anyone spoils him prior to him sensing it from Luke's mind. I hate being a bringer of criticism, especially since otherwise every single word here is masterful. But I also believe in that canon goes before all no matter what.
This does take place between ESB and ROTJ. Before then Vader was under the impression with Padmes Death so along went their baby (didn’t know it was twins ) and it all stemmed from Palpatine manipulation that led Anakin to kill Padme. But you’re right I should’ve said child not children. It’s definitely not criticism I’m happy you called it out. You are 100% accurate and I’ll admit when I made a mistake.
I have enjoyed these. I wish disney could/would make something like this instead of the garbage they have been releasing. I look forward to more of your videos
These videos are awesome man, i ssw you did Qui-Gon's ghost visiting Dooku right before ROTS, so thnak you. Could you do the scene fron the Legacy comics, where Darth Krayt meets the spirits of the Ancient Sith in the depths of Korriban, and is taunted and toyed with?
There is more good writing in these shorts than most of the entire SW franchise. Writing makes great films and series, not explosions and social engineering.
Not necessarily ghosts but there are the Holocrons. I've often wondered if Sith Holocrons hold pieces of a Siths soul within. Kind of like Horocruxes in Harry Potter. And with the Holocrons, Sith of the present can speak to Sith of the past to acquire knowledge.
Vader: *Recites his entire two hour thesis to Plagueis himself.*
Darth Plagueis: This was a terrible mistake...
😂😂
I think canonically it is four hours! (Though admitedly it could be because of interesting side tangets, or even longer 😅)
Seals Are Good, indeed
Lecture done. Carry on.
_See you later, Vader._
An extra 30 mins for the interesting side tangent
Vader: I have a doctorate in studies about you!!
It’s amazing how advanced the Jedi Temple’s commitment to academia is that you can write a whole thesis about a Sith Tragedy that hadn’t yet taken place yet and devote your entire life to it
I LOVE how you’ve incorporated Daniel Davis’ voice for the Darth Lord Plagueis!
I'd love to see a conversation between Plagues and Yoda. 2 of the wisest force users engaged in a philosophical debate? Sign me up.
It was during the golden age of the old republic..Before the Jedi Order won victory against the Eternal Sith Empire.
@@Lemuel928Really do you know specifically when?
Same! That debate would be one for the ages. Who knows, maybe a force battle would erupt later, with Yoda being the victor (though it would be skin of the teeth/razor thin close)
I feel these keep getting better and better.
I agree The Stories Do get interesting and better.
Except that looped part. What happened here?
Hearing Darth Plagueis voice actor is just a treat!
Who wanted to hear Plagueis tell Vader "I AM YOUR FATHER"?
2:19 2:57 This part is a loop from earlier in the video!
lol thought I accidentally rewound the video.
I guess beggars can be choosers.
I love the idea of the Sith trying to get Vader to genuinely join them as passionately as the Jedi try to redeem Vader, with Vader stuck in the middle, subservient to Palpatine.
I like the angle Plagueis has here. Sort of undoing his mistake but still seeking Sith Superiority
And this, Ladies and Gentlemen, is why Darth Plagueis is revered as "The Wise." As dark and ruthless as he was, there was always truth to his words. In the Legends Canon, Plagueis was responsible for the conception of Anakin Skywalker, through his skill at manipulating midi-chlorians. From a certain point of view, Darth Vader is speaking to his father.
Yep and I love when he tells Vader to not make the same mistakes as he did when it comes to sidious , the way plagues speaks to Vader is a way a parent speaks to their child . It’s a beautiful moment .
Vader kinda found out that Darth Plagius was his original creator despite he never found out about his father/dad.
Until Darth Sidious killed his dad.
Oh he's all ovre the Clone Wars Series. Luke told him his over confidence was his greatest weaknesss. Plagueis lives
Omg Anakin can finally recite his thesis to the big man himself
🤣 Ah man that broke me up
And there’s more,fulfilling the prophecy that ultimately destroyed Sidious off the Death Star II..
Darth Plagueis is my favorite Sith, alongside Darths Bane and Marr. He had a penchant for achieving all of his goals, pioneering entirely new Force powers, and gained mastery of the Midichlorians to bestow life and death at will.
Crazy. Other Sith could take you out any number of ways but Plagueis could literally will you to die, like he did with King Veruna. Ironically, his only flaw was trusting one who he never should have due to creating a bond with him. He was a Sith through and through, Dark Side through and through. I greatly respect his commitment to his constantly growing his abilities and staying true to his philosophy. As he said, the power of the Dark Side is an illness no true Sith would wish to be cured of. Funnily enough, Plagueis could have fought back against Sidious but he deliberately courted death and it cost him his life. A lesson on the value of a grounded outlook and acting decisively when the moment arrives.
Marr, Malgus and Maul are my favs
@@zalla00
Badass list, Malgus is dope. An absolute juggernaut of a Sith.
@@punishedvenomsnake716 The OG juggernaut. Tanking pretty much everything thrown at him. Marr, nothing needs stating. The man is badass incarnate. And Maul's rage and unhinged side just makes me smile lol
@@zalla00
Hahaha, yup, Malgus in the Deceived trailer still goes hard to this day. Love that he has his own novel and audiobook as well.
Marr and Maul are fantastic choices as well, Marr for his dedication to the Empire and felling entire armies and Maul for the aesthetics and aggression. In my eyes, there was no one more worthy to be Emperor of the Sith than Darth Marr :)
@@punishedvenomsnake716 absolutely! Plagueis had reached a point where he could literally send/command your midichlorians back to the source without having to do anything physical. Like he did with the Ex King of Naboo who tried to assassinate him. It’s a bone chilling scene more scarier than any force choke or Sith Lightning.
Plagueis achieved what the immortal emperor never could, achieve immortality without any Sith ritual in or feed off other life forms and live without excruciating pain.
He literally mastered the foundations of life.
The force via midichlorians.
Plagueis:…the loss of your children…
Vader: Children?
Plagueis: Whoops
Yeets off Darth Sidious out of the Death Star II in multiple Lego Star Wars Realities.
I feel that through your channel we get the stories that we never got from Disney. I think that these mere few minutes of conversation between characters who would never have the opportunity to meet in the story are much more meaningful, much deeper than any of the sequels. The best part is that you feel the essence of the charaters. Especially Plagueis's. You nailed him very much and I love that you use the voice of the actor from the audio book. I know that there are other charaters in the SW universe but Plagueis content is #1 for me :D
Keep up the good work.
Oh and don't forget to save these videos because I fear one day you'll have copyright issues...
Plageuis really got Vader thinking 😮
Plageius and revan are my 2 favorites. I wish plageius lived next door to me, i could talk to him for hours
He should do Palpatine vs Emperor of Mankind.
Then I'd like to see Plagueis talk to the emperor.
That’s a great conversation. The depth of knowing both characters here is very impressive
WOW....I Agree they just keep getting better and better!!!!
Plageus is coming off a Chaotic Neutral Sith.
Imo he truly is. He was never overly cruel, not a warmonger, not a sadist. Wise in the ways of an aggressive and murderous philosophy but not over the top as Sidious or Tenebrous or even Vader. He's among the best Sith I'd say alongside Vectivus and Marr
@@Scrubermensch I don't think Venamis would agree on the "not a sadist" part 😅
@NerdX151 science requires sacrifice, Venamis was a subject of Plagueis's love, he said it himself. He loved the knowledge Venamis and the other subjects brought him, he cared for them and observed them to know them better than their mothers.
Darth Plagueis looks much better!
Vader: Ah so youre the sith lord Sidious spoke of, and to think youd be wiser to avoid your downfall
Plageus orchestrating his sweet revenge against Palps. 😈
Plagueis' biggest mistake was having an apprentice. xD If he really thought he was the pinnacle of the Sith and that the rule of 2 expired, he never should trained Sidious. He should have just had Sith assassins or footmen, but not an actual Sith Lord alongside him. He should have known better than to train someone like Sidious, who hoards power like it's his lifeblood. Sidious killing Plagueis was actually good, as I can imagine that Yoda and the Jedi would have had harder time taking down Plagueis, who is definitely stronger than Sidious and Sidious only won through trickery.
Plagueis is basically inspiring Vader to stand up against Sidious.
_No doubt that could have happened after Vader's "excursion" to Exegol between ESB and ROTJ._
Same with Malgus
This is channel/idea is so cool. More plagueis please!
I love that everyone collectively agrees that Daniel Davis is the canon voice for Plagueis
How many of us are here reliving Anakin’s Thesis from Seals Are Good channel?
What a deep conversation. But all they say is true. DAMN THIS IS GOOD STUFF
Now this interaction I never saw coming!
Vader’s voice is spot on. Love your work.
Never thought Vader could be guided by the Sith.
Darth Vader: You would have me cast him aside? Use him as a pawn for schemes?
Darth Plagueis: That is Sidious’ way, not mine. Luke is more than a pawn. He is your legacy. Together the Sith would be unmatched or you could let Sidious twist him as he twisted you. The prophecy chose you for a reason Vader. Not to serve, but to master. Not to destroy, but to reshape. Do not let your fear bind you. Let it fuel you.
That was the best part.
I agree. Great dialog there
Ah the first interaction between father and son
And a Grandson.(Plus a Great Grandson from an Expanded Universe.)
*Plagueis:* Well... how do I put this... I _created_ you, Vader.
*Vader:* What?!
Plagueis didn't create Anakin.
@@emeraldmilcham6041 W
rong
@@emeraldmilcham6041
Then who's his father?
The new design for Plagueis is awesome, I prefer it over the design in the Sidious and Plagueis video, since it's the true design.
I'd love to see a post-redemption Anakin commune with the spirits of Maul and Dooku. Would they be angry that he turned back to the light? Resentful that he defeated Palpatine, when they could not? Would they think him foolish for choosing love over power? Or perhaps even a little impressed?
I've been asking for Exegol Palpatine vs Vader Dooku & Maul
This is what the sith were meant to be. Not simply evil users of the dark side. But people who could lead the galaxy without that terror sidious wanted.
Oh they always led in terror. But the difference between the past and now is that the Sith of the past were actually smart and knew how to truly utilize their power. As powerful as Sidious is, it sometimes feels like he doesn't know what he's doing half of the time. Just making things up as he goes and hopes for the best. And doesn't think about how his plans could potentially backfire.
@TimberlakeTigerGirl Well what happens when they finally achieve the end of Darth Bane's vision? When the jedi are completely wiped out and the sith rule alone. They didn't need the kind of empire Sidious had.
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Palpatine straight up murdered his Master from the shadow. No duel of skill, whit or blood. Vader did the Sith a favor…
Man this is amazing! You do a great job. I feel myself getting goosebumps just listening to this dialogue. Imagine if real star wars was this in depth. This plus good fight scenes = Gold
You can argue that Darth Vader is talking to his father here, as Anakin was conceived through force experiments 🧪 that Darth Plagueis done, I wish Plagueis revealed he was his father and Darth Vader said: Nooooo like when Padme died or when Luke Skywalker found out Darth Vader was his father lol 😂
More Plagueis !
Love these. Doing a great job
Excellent work my man
Plagueis...doesn't sound all that evil here.
That's very in line with his character. He did some awful things, but his visions for the galaxy were nowhere near as extreme as Sidious', who was basically a spoiled brat who got power.
Whoa this was a really good episode with vaders harsh tones but still flicker of hope of what could have been!!! 💯
This version of Plagueis you made is a lot better. Very accurate.
WE NEED A TV SERIES OF VADER WITH THESE INTERACTIONS!!!🎉
finally vader gets to meet plaqueis
Plagues was spittin to Vader. He should’ve listen. 😋
I'm starting to like the idea of your content being the real star wars keep it up bro
You know what would be an awesome conversation? Darth Vader and Darth Imperius (Light sided Sith Inquisitor from SWTOR)
This conversation would be great as Darth Imperius devoted themselves to the Sith Empire and they could talk down to Vader by calling his passions self-centered, and that his passions should be centered around the Empire. They could show disdain for Vader's actions, especially needlessly killing Imperials as the Sith are the Empire and the Empire is the Sith, maybe even bring up that Sidious even told Vader to stop killing so many wishing not to rule a galaxy of the dead.
They could also relate to Vader because they too were a slave who's chains were broken however they could point out that Vader is no true Sith since his chains are not broken but reinforced and that to be a Sith is to be free to choose their destiny.
Vader hated Sidious' empire, it wasn't Vader's vision, Vader preferred the stormtroopers and galactic police combined with a hearts and mind approach.
That's why in Legends he was one of the founders of the Rebel Alliance, technically they were his separatist army against Sidious.
Thank you!
Now we’re talking.
What is the music, especially around 3:45 ?
Once again, great video 🫶
The conversation we always needed
I see that this is a Christmas tale! :D
When will AI be able to show the full Son of Dathomir story, animated and voiced just like it would have been if not for Disney?
Can you please do one with Darth Plagueis and Emperor Vitiate
"Do not make the same mistake as I did.Never trust a politician"
Nice video. Can you please make a video on how you make your videos?
Once again, masterful dialogue. But I fear there is a plot error in it, a single line that disrupts the canon. This must take place between TESB & ROTJ, prior to ROTJ in any case. And here, Plagueis tells Vader the words ..."The loss of your children". Vader is not meant to know at this time that he has several children, he must only know of Luke at this time, or the epic scene in ROTJ that leads to Vader's & Luke's final duel no longer makes sense. Vader is meant to be surprised that he has a daughter, that Luke has a twin sister. He can't be that surprised of a second child, regardless if identity & even gender is still a secret, if anyone spoils him prior to him sensing it from Luke's mind.
I hate being a bringer of criticism, especially since otherwise every single word here is masterful. But I also believe in that canon goes before all no matter what.
This does take place between ESB and ROTJ. Before then Vader was under the impression with Padmes Death so along went their baby (didn’t know it was twins ) and it all stemmed from Palpatine manipulation that led Anakin to kill Padme. But you’re right I should’ve said child not children. It’s definitely not criticism I’m happy you called it out. You are 100% accurate and I’ll admit when I made a mistake.
@@Skywalker_Stories Can I ask you a question.
These are so epically profound and good!
These are really good.
Can you make one on how Vitiate brainwashed Revan and Malek?
First bf3 wii leak and now a sith video? Christmas really is here. Thank you s.. Skywalker stories!
And cheesy as it is, merry christmas to you
great intermission between ep 5 & ep 6
Absolute perfection
I would pay an arm and a leg to see this canon. #fuckdisney
I hope someone does a revan series one day
Can you please have Darth Plagueis speak to Darth Revan about his turn back to the light over the sith?
I have enjoyed these. I wish disney could/would make something like this instead of the garbage they have been releasing. I look forward to more of your videos
Vader talks in -2.0 speed
DeJa Vu at 2.19 Mins in 🤔
I’m loving these vids. Can you do one with Exar Kun?
These videos are awesome man, i ssw you did Qui-Gon's ghost visiting Dooku right before ROTS, so thnak you. Could you do the scene fron the Legacy comics, where Darth Krayt meets the spirits of the Ancient Sith in the depths of Korriban, and is taunted and toyed with?
Man, I love Darth Plagueis 🙌🏾🙌🏾
I'd love to see a whole star wars saga fan edit with this stuff in between, would be a masterpiece cut worthty of an oscar awarding play. 🎉
Plagueus was easier on him than I expected
Previous sith visitations totally ridiculed and mocked Vader…I’m pleasantly surprised by this counsel from Plaguies
Well done, sir
He was Plagius the Wise for a reason. In a sense, he created Anakin (practically his father), so he knows Anakin better than Anakin knows himself.
Could there be a video where Darth Nihilous is involved? Or Darth Scion?
The force will decide I love that ending
Your videos are out of this world! You are so talented! George Lucas would be so proud of you! Keep up the good work! 🤩 👏
11th like!👍
Awesome video!🤘
Keep up the awesome work!🤘😎🤘
Please make more stories with revan and traya
Best one yet
I always imagined Plagueis voice being Ron Pearlman (even though i dislike him)
Make one with padme!
Still better than the Sequels
❤️
This content will ALWAYS be better than Disney trash 💝
Mannn.. This is great...made me buy Book of the Sith last week....
There is more good writing in these shorts than most of the entire SW franchise. Writing makes great films and series, not explosions and social engineering.
How do you make these videos?
I like this.
Do Vader and Padme
Wise is lord plagueis
Audio works now! Good stuff man! This is a good combo
Perfect
So Darth Plagueis is for the balance of the Force? - Interesting.
He literally said balance not in the force but for the sith ???
The Sith version of Balance, yes.
Yes. Remember, his ultimate goal was eternal life. If the Sith could achieve balance, eternal life is possible
I like to think Darth Plagueis and Vader interacted at some point while Vader was in his castle, but then again Sith don't have Force ghosts.
Not necessarily ghosts but there are the Holocrons. I've often wondered if Sith Holocrons hold pieces of a Siths soul within. Kind of like Horocruxes in Harry Potter. And with the Holocrons, Sith of the present can speak to Sith of the past to acquire knowledge.
There is some repetition.
Excellent quality though.