Ive done extensive testing regarding putting shadowheart in my chest and it seems to me that it is actually shar who revives her. The weird part is sometimes I see her after sometimes I don't and she is just gone forever
@@robbyloux If she can be recruited at this point, then I'll suggest you immediately join her up and then speak to Nightsong while you're in Shadowland just before leaving to BG. A cutscene will trigger. You have to ask her to join the party everyday and if she's somehow kept within the camp boundaries then it's also advised to recruit her again before the long rest. I know it too much 😅.
There is actually a bug where you can "recruit" Wyll into Act 3 without him officially joining your party. It results in him showing up in his underwear for all of his major cutscenes, including the Mizora meetup and the Duke Ravengard meetup.
Well It's good to know that Wyll's clothing issues are at least a little common. At one point halfway through my first playthrough (no mods installed) he just refused to have any armor show up on his body and I had no idea what I'd done to cause this His genitals also fk'd off to who the hell knows where during that period as well.
@@Mithcoriel I'll be honest I have no idea how to even do that. I rarely use modded armor on Wyll and idk if I even had any installed at the time or not. I just know that he randomly took a vow against wearing clothing in public, private, or anywhere else. The only other character that had any issue at the time that I can remember was Minthara, who spontaneously became a floating naked torso with a head for a short period of time, but she recovered quickly Nothing I did fixed Wyll that I can recall and he's had the issue once or twice since then, and Tav once briefly had their genitals disappear, but not for very long
But everything happened on a course of only 2 days. I didn't waste anytime because everybody were brought in just before the Shadowfell incident and then I went to Act 3 without taking any long rest. Hmm... it sounds psychotic, isn't it 😅?!
that trasition from new shadowheart back to her begining, damn! And the amensia with her so fitting. Well done on the video. And how you put this together. Amazing editing
Honestly Shadowheart's constant amnesia is thematically appropriate, this is how I'd expect someone subjected to 32 years of constant mindwiping to behave neurologically (I'm working under the assumption that her true personality/memories were surfacing throughout her indoctrination and she'd constantly have to be sent for "reprogramming". It's a wonder how Sharrans can get anything done. "Brother Nightweaver, it is your turn to cook dinner for the faithful" "Who the hell are you and how do you know who I am"
I really had forgotten Shadowheart's true age as being described by the devs. So looking at the situation from this perspective, a time period of three decades of indoctrination does explain a lot.
Really funny how you can just gazlight Laezel into betraying her queen, years of brain washing and propaganda, just to be broken with "lol Laezel, stand up against your immortal demi-god queen"
Baldur's Gate 3 is an epic game. I find and also learn new things about this game from such a wonderful community everyday. Also, I thank you for your kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed this video .
You can actually pick up Karlach, seems like you don't had enough strength. 20 definitely will do, so elixir of giant strength should be enough. If I remember correctly, half-orcs even heavier and require 22 str, but still can be thrown or picked up.
I tried this one by giving the Gith (a warrior) in the party the elixir of giant strength but being a level 8 didn't help either. It was pretty frustrating. But also I think it won't matter whether you recruit her by the end of act 2 or act 3 because even if her questline is left unfulfilled, she'll survive by going to Avernus.
@@kapitainein If you store her without speaking, She acts like you attacked the grove if you revive her in act 3 for the first time (i didn't), tells you to go away and stands in her spot in the tavern camp place - it's very odd
The first run I ever finished, which was an Honor run (only mentioning cause idk if that had something to do with it, it was a very weird run with... very Interesting choices and chaos, lol), and I had Shadowheart dead in the chest when I freed Aylin. She returned to life on her own, hostile, still level 1. I think Shar was angry at me, I guess?
Astarion's bit reminded me of accidentally triggering Cazador while Astarion was "hidden." Spent the entire cutscene and the first portion of the fight being reassured that the enemies had no idea where Astarion was even despite Cazador yoinking him around and placing him in a very prominent beam of red light
@@Mithcoriel he was very much trapped in the beam of red light, hovering exactly where Cazador put him. Cazador and the other enemies just had no idea he was there... Apparently. I don't remember if he remains hidden when you free him or not I'm afraid
@Mithcoriel yes lol. _Constantly._ Every few seconds I'd get the dice roll sound followed by the game reassuring me that Astarion's attempts to remain hidden had been successful. I didn't catch anyone attempting to actually search for him that I can recall though but I was also AOEing a lot of them so they presumably had other things on their minds
In my first (and still unfinished) campaign i left Shadowheart laying unconscious in the nautiloid. It was rather surprising to encounter her dead body on the beach just a few minutes after
I didn't know knocking Shadowheart in the Nautiloid kills her. That's strange and thanks for letting us know that. Honestly I was going to try this one out but thanks 😃.
I am sure that Laezel was the first character made so that is why is so well written and complete. Gale also both are the best by far this video prove this gladly.
Wyll disappeared for me too. It was such a confusing run, too many elements that cancelled each other out and prevented other camp events from happening. I was going for a no long rest run, I killed goblin leaders without ever finishing the grove entrance fight, left Gale there and switched to out of combat party member and didn't finish Gale's turn. After killing goblin leaders I went back to the grove all bloody and bruised up to recruit the final party member of act I, Wyll, who wasn't there. There was no bugbear assassin, no Mattis and the other kids, Arabella died offscreen and her parents were nowhere to be found even at the tiefling party, no Bex or Danis either. In act 2 I didn't see Bex either but Danis was in Moonrise Prison, somehow Bex died somewhere? Never found her body in shadowlands. Danis was a sad widower without her. I tried experimenting more and reloaded to try and find Wyll, finally found him during the 3rd long rest before going to mountain pass. Why the 3rd long rest? I kept avoiding Raphael so his presence in the camp took precedence over Wyll attacking Karlach. If I went to mountain pass immediately after the goblin quest then the forced long rest would have Raphael at my camp and no tiefling party, so no Halsin. Which collectively meant that I lost Halsin and Wyll because I was going too fast while avoiding the devil and not long resting. Pros? got helldusk armor during act 1 and Raphael had 1 HP for the rest of the game since I beat him up in the camp. Cons? missing characters. For some reason Alfira was playing lute for kids when there were no kids left. Poor girl.
Wow. Thank you for your insight and experience which you shared with all of us in here. I really appreciate it. This game has certain actions strictly tied to the long rest, it seems. I can not imagine Bex and Danis not able to get reunited under the stars. That last one where Alfira was playing Lute - that is both sad and casts a chilling effect upon the player too. Once again, thank you for sharing your experiences .
What if you don't recruit Shadowheart on the beach in act 1 and you never go to the goblin encampment, so she never comes with the artifact to save you.
@@eriklee1604 Some might say that these are bugs, others - glitch, but to say it's a parallel universe is raising the standard of this game a whole new level 💯.
I just watched the video on avoiding the origins. Commented that ibwanted to try with all to kill and take into act 3. Then stumbled upon this. Thanks for the answers!
Wildshape yourself into an owlbear, then put Karlach into your inventory. I think a bear is also good enough. If you're not a druid, have a chat with skeleton father and turn yourself into a druid.
@@ZombroVT Exactly, she loses her soul and is doomed to become a brain eating monster sooner or later. Even Orpheus couldn't avoid that, I convinced him to not kill himself but he said that he won't be himself for long and just fucks off into astral plane never to be found.
@@ZombroVT It's debatable whether this is what happens in the game. It's a Theseus Ship problem. Omeluum has managed to stay good for many years, so that puts some doubt on whether you really have no choice but become a monster over time.
Can someone explain me how I get that cut scene of shadowheart? Cuz I remember after I killed the entire goblin camp I avoided and didn't talk to her at all and went straight to act 2 can someone tell me how I get that cut scene I don't understand
You need to go back to Act 1 for that. To get this particular scene, she needs to be put inside the camp chest box just before entering the shadowfell (never recruit her before that). After coming back from the shadowfell, if you make your way towards the camp, this cutscene will trigger automatically. Please take care of Shadowheart after that .
I managed to get that cutscene just by never having her in my party from the goblin camp onward (she was bugged to have "enemy of justice" flagged on her file for all factions. So every time she was in my party everyone aggro'd on her... so I just left her at camp with maybe 20 approval.) Not letting her deal with Nightsong drops her approval by 50 so if it's not high to begin with, she'll then leave your party.
Well said. This path is never to be taken in during the first playthrough. As for me, my first playthrough was on 'Explorer' difficulty and still managed to completely miss out on Gale and Minsc.
@@AngelofAmbrosia I can't watch it either. I thought the dialogue options regarding the Netherese Orb would not surface because he did not meet Elminster.
Oh yea fun fact, Shadowheart can get REALLY BUGGY if you take her body with you, like, not joking, Shadowhear would pop in random cutscenes, completely naked, with the Shar lance, she showed up at the end fight cutscene, then disapeared for the end reunion..... creepy
The funniest part about this to me is that you carried Astarion all the way to Cazador and it’s obvious that Larian never thought of the possibility because there are no unique lines for this 😂
I was just happy to see Astarion running away to the camp right in front of Cazador. So many permutations are involved to make a good RPG game like BG3. Sometimes the devs think like - Nah, I wonder if the players'll do it. Will they do it? I wonder how they'll do it.
I love how Shart starts as an obsessed stalker who demands you hang out with her, when you finally accept she's acting snarky and gets annoyed everytime you try to get to know her better, then one day suddenly starts screaming at you, saying you ruined her life and she doesn't want to ever see you again. Most realistic female character in video games.
Idk what you mean. She started off absolutely hating my Tav, don't know why. I never encountered her until getting to the Goblin Camp, didn't encounter her on the Nautiloid or anything. She just like, auto despised me. She liked my Dark Urge Githyanki Monk, Tavia. Which was weird because she kept hating on Lae'zel and being racist XD
I never get Astarion or Gale, funnily enough, if you never get Astarion, (don't kill him just avoid him, same with Gale) you will find him when you go to kill Cazador, he is named Zombie Astarion, I never new what happened to gale, like he dropped off the face of the sword coast, and there is one playthrough that I decided not to get Lae'zel ether, (even when you ignore her at the Creshe or deny her to come with you) for some reason you will finder her in the shadow cursed land, dead. But now I know why, strange she's just a little way off, I'm assuming the cut scene takes longer than Lea'zel has life...lol
I wouldn't know about it either if it wasn't mentioned in the comments. I sincerely believe that the community members are the most helpful and generous while exchanging information about the different outcomes.
You purposefully never recruit two of the game’s origin characters, who are both tied to excellent content, character development, and voice acting? Idk why you’d go out of your way to avoid them but to each their own lol
@@rebeccawildman8787 First few times I played the game I did, Gale pretty cool except he likes to eat my magical items ('m a collector, I don't give up nothing) plus Gale is just way too thirsty, an hour into the game and he's already trying to get it on with my character, And Astarion's just an asshole...lol I liked his quest though killing his former master was fun, if you don't recruit him he will end up at Cazador's mansion as 'zombie Astarion', Playing the game in different ways makes it more fun, you should really try different ways, like killing Shadowheart as a Githyanki, never recruiting Lae'zel etc, play the game the same way all the time you will never know how deep the devs went. Every time I try something different it seems the deves have already though of it, Larian is one hell of a game producer, no wonder they literally won EVERY award...lol. You should try it some time I'm sure you would enjoy the game more.👍💯
I just did that in patch 7 and my Shart never crawled out of the chest after dealing with Aylin. But I resurrected her in act 3 and she thinks we are in act 1 still, she wouldn't speak to me for the first couple of days tho: "I can't talk right now" XD But she eventually let me talk to her and I got her to admit about shar worship. She even reacted to the graffitti in lower city. I'm so curious how it will go :D
It's so good to hear your experience with Shadowheart in this particular situation. "I can't talk right now", wow. Please do tell what happened afterwards because I'm curious 😃.
I'm on my third playthrough now, and for the first time I had to kill her in the nightsong chamber. I had baseline approval since i havent talked to her since recruiting her. After seeing her speech about wanting to make a choice of her own, i feel bad about killing her...
I understand. I had the same problem in my first playthrough. In short, I was so overwhelmed by the gameplay and RPG elements, it was very difficult for me to concentrate on only one character so I used the 'jack of all' method - No romance, no dialogue choices that may bring anyone closer. No romance. Nada. Then I was faced with the NIghtsong chapter. Went there without Shadowheart because though I had recruited her, I never talked to her. So she told me those lines and left the party permanently. I was like what in the nine hells just happened? Why leave?
Same here. It seems that after being revived at the camp, he simply stands beside Karlach sipping on wine and whenever I try to talk with him, Wyll simply says - Not now, no time to chatter 😅.
She’s supposed to show up no matter what you do with Voss, just long-rest as soon as you get to act 3 after receiving the pale worm. Without spoiling, I will say there are two paths for Lae’zel and depending on previous choices you’ll have two different persuasion paths that impact her endings.
If it was patched on earlier then I don't really have a clue how it was restored. We know the Larian Studios cares a lot for it's community. Maybe they reverted it back.
Ecen now the amount of options and pathways in this game that i never saw before are showing up in reccomended vids. I cant imagine howbig the script was and how long it took to film. Im in my second playthrough, the first one i missed Karlack
Thank you so much for being in here. This gem of a game seems to be offering up new possibilities whenever we are trying out a different route. I missed Gale in my first playthrough and almost Karlach too until I started following the blood spatter in the grounds. Gods, I was completely amateur before and still am but I somehow feel this game never bores me out and keeps surprising me till date .
@kapitainein I know what you mean, I also didn't know about Wyll for quite a while in my first playthrough and would have missed him if my friend hadn't mentioned him. This game truly is a masterpiece, despite its huge length when I got near the end it still didn't feel like enough and I missed it before even it ending. I'd say the one thing I was mildly let down with is well you know the 3rd act is building an army, I thought your allies woukd be more involved but if you are max leveled you can make it to the final boss without calling for help. I also wished it showed more of what jappened with everyone not in party in the epilogue, but tgats it I loved everything else
how does SHart get white hair? i thought she usually gets white hair after ascension so how did she get white hair if you never even brought her to shadowfell?
If you should ever follow this path for Shadowheart, speaking with Nightsong while Shadowheart is in your party jumps into a cutscene where S-Hart is told about her parents and also the 'wolf-scene' mind swap happens. So in this way Shadowheart now knows the truth. Then only she decides to color her hair white 😊.
@@naerolf09 Pretty realistic honestly. My sister had a baby, her hair was black, then my nephew (New baby) died due to complications roughly 2 months after he was born and my sister immediately went blonde like, the same day. Idk, maybe it's just a woman thing. Distressing news = Dye hair, I guess.
Why didn't anybody mention this to me earlier? Honestly, I think I've missed a solid chunk of Shadowheart's dialogues because I've never romanced ShadowH before. I usually give her the Warlock build for the game.
So... shadowheart was so mad that she revived herself and crawled out of the chest... impressive
Now I can't stop laughing. This is pure gold 😂.
Literally too angry to die!
Ive done extensive testing regarding putting shadowheart in my chest and it seems to me that it is actually shar who revives her. The weird part is sometimes I see her after sometimes I don't and she is just gone forever
she's the embodiment of the "this bird keeps itself in the air by spite alone"
@@robbyloux If she can be recruited at this point, then I'll suggest you immediately join her up and then speak to Nightsong while you're in Shadowland just before leaving to BG. A cutscene will trigger. You have to ask her to join the party everyday and if she's somehow kept within the camp boundaries then it's also advised to recruit her again before the long rest. I know it too much 😅.
There is actually a bug where you can "recruit" Wyll into Act 3 without him officially joining your party. It results in him showing up in his underwear for all of his major cutscenes, including the Mizora meetup and the Duke Ravengard meetup.
Thanks a lot. I learn new things about BG3 almost everyday.
Well It's good to know that Wyll's clothing issues are at least a little common. At one point halfway through my first playthrough (no mods installed) he just refused to have any armor show up on his body and I had no idea what I'd done to cause this
His genitals also fk'd off to who the hell knows where during that period as well.
That's a weird bug XD
@@Xenolithial And I take it it wasn't just a matter of the armor visibility being switched off?
@@Mithcoriel I'll be honest I have no idea how to even do that. I rarely use modded armor on Wyll and idk if I even had any installed at the time or not.
I just know that he randomly took a vow against wearing clothing in public, private, or anywhere else.
The only other character that had any issue at the time that I can remember was Minthara, who spontaneously became a floating naked torso with a head for a short period of time, but she recovered quickly
Nothing I did fixed Wyll that I can recall and he's had the issue once or twice since then, and Tav once briefly had their genitals disappear, but not for very long
Kazador: I’m asking you one last time WHERE IS ASTARION!? Or at least his body.
Petras: right behind you, master
Kazador: Very funny, Petras
I was actually laughing out loud when I saw that.
Astarion was like: Free at last - Freedom 😂.
@@kapitainein comedy gold
Astarion: I’ve been conveniently lost
Me: why don’t you turn around and tell me that again
@@lavaplanet4749 Astarion: Hey Tav lend me your eyes for a moment pretty please 😁
*By this time Cazador was resting in the coffin*
I’ll do you one better: why is Astarion?
Opening with killing Astarion and carrying his corpse with you until act 3 is PSYCHOTIC
But everything happened on a course of only 2 days. I didn't waste anytime because everybody were brought in just before the Shadowfell incident and then I went to Act 3 without taking any long rest. Hmm... it sounds psychotic, isn't it 😅?!
@@kapitaineinthis must be what the characters in homestuck felt like
Why? you get to skip out on a shit character. win win
Cazador: This order service is really convenient.
Shadowheart: You ruined EVERYTHING
Tav: 🤨
Nooooooooooo 😭.
Like girl, whos fault is it
Aka. "How to break the game's code so badly it will force Companions to star in _What's My Line?"_
Lol.
The crown
0:53 - Astarion
3:29 - Gale
4:53 - Karlach
5:43 - Lae'zel
10:37 - Shadowheart
16:10 - Wyll
that trasition from new shadowheart back to her begining, damn! And the amensia with her so fitting. Well done on the video. And how you put this together. Amazing editing
Thank you for your kind words. I'm just glad you liked it. This means a lot to me.
The bug with shadowheart seems perfect lmao
@@meodrac I think this bug makes the game a little more interesting.
Honestly Shadowheart's constant amnesia is thematically appropriate, this is how I'd expect someone subjected to 32 years of constant mindwiping to behave neurologically (I'm working under the assumption that her true personality/memories were surfacing throughout her indoctrination and she'd constantly have to be sent for "reprogramming". It's a wonder how Sharrans can get anything done.
"Brother Nightweaver, it is your turn to cook dinner for the faithful"
"Who the hell are you and how do you know who I am"
I really had forgotten Shadowheart's true age as being described by the devs. So looking at the situation from this perspective, a time period of three decades of indoctrination does explain a lot.
Wow, fascinating, and thank you so much for the effort needed to find all of these.
You are so kind ☺.
Really funny how you can just gazlight Laezel into betraying her queen, years of brain washing and propaganda, just to be broken with "lol Laezel, stand up against your immortal demi-god queen"
@@jeanmouloude Lol 🤣 .
It’s not gaslight when here queen quite literally will eat her
I've never thought one could do all these in Baldur's Gate. Your content is so unique and enjoyable.
Baldur's Gate 3 is an epic game. I find and also learn new things about this game from such a wonderful community everyday. Also, I thank you for your kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed this video .
Takes some damn skill to make a video about sequence breaking feel epic. Splendid editing, splendid writing, well done.
*golf claps*
You are very kind to me. Thank you so much for your encouraging words. I feel blessed ☺.
You can actually pick up Karlach, seems like you don't had enough strength. 20 definitely will do, so elixir of giant strength should be enough. If I remember correctly, half-orcs even heavier and require 22 str, but still can be thrown or picked up.
I tried this one by giving the Gith (a warrior) in the party the elixir of giant strength but being a level 8 didn't help either. It was pretty frustrating. But also I think it won't matter whether you recruit her by the end of act 2 or act 3 because even if her questline is left unfulfilled, she'll survive by going to Avernus.
@@kapitaineinyeah I think githyanki might have less carry weight than other races.
@@kapitainein If you store her without speaking, She acts like you attacked the grove if you revive her in act 3 for the first time (i didn't), tells you to go away and stands in her spot in the tavern camp place - it's very odd
The first run I ever finished, which was an Honor run (only mentioning cause idk if that had something to do with it, it was a very weird run with... very Interesting choices and chaos, lol), and I had Shadowheart dead in the chest when I freed Aylin. She returned to life on her own, hostile, still level 1. I think Shar was angry at me, I guess?
You too had kept her inside the camp chest? Imagining her threatening Tav as a lev 1 Cleric😅.
@@kapitainein By the end, everyone except Gale, Astarion, and Karlach were in the chest (those three were in the party).
What is wrong with you?
@@yoursonisold8743 My best friend that I was giving the updates to asked me the same thing. It was just a very chaotic run.
@@lycantabris There is just no reason to kill all your party members and stuff them into a box.
You always do such a great job!❤👏
Hi Kitty. This gem of a game has so many secrets to offer. Thank you so much for being in here .
Astarion's bit reminded me of accidentally triggering Cazador while Astarion was "hidden."
Spent the entire cutscene and the first portion of the fight being reassured that the enemies had no idea where Astarion was even despite Cazador yoinking him around and placing him in a very prominent beam of red light
This is pure gold😄.
So when the fight started, was Astarion floating in the beam, or still hidden?
@@Mithcoriel he was very much trapped in the beam of red light, hovering exactly where Cazador put him. Cazador and the other enemies just had no idea he was there... Apparently.
I don't remember if he remains hidden when you free him or not I'm afraid
@@Xenolithial How could you tell that Cazador didn't know he was there? Did the game keep rolling stealth checks?
@Mithcoriel yes lol. _Constantly._
Every few seconds I'd get the dice roll sound followed by the game reassuring me that Astarion's attempts to remain hidden had been successful.
I didn't catch anyone attempting to actually search for him that I can recall though but I was also AOEing a lot of them so they presumably had other things on their minds
The segment starting at 14:44 is possibly the best editing I've seen on a BG3 video - fantastically well done!
Thank you so much for your kind words ☺..
0:11 the music was so sudden I'm afraid to continue lmao
Oh no... it was sudden indeed 😅.
Is that fallout 2 music ?
@@nicbahtin4774 It's from BG3.
It reminds me of.. "I gently open the door"
In my first (and still unfinished) campaign i left Shadowheart laying unconscious in the nautiloid. It was rather surprising to encounter her dead body on the beach just a few minutes after
I didn't know knocking Shadowheart in the Nautiloid kills her. That's strange and thanks for letting us know that. Honestly I was going to try this one out but thanks 😃.
@@kapitaineinin my game when I didn't let her out I saw her on the beach later trying to get into a door, then later I saw her at the Grove
This was an excellent video ❤
Thank you so much. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
this is high quality bg3 content
thank you
Thank you for watching the video. I'm glad you liked it .
I am sure that Laezel was the first character made so that is why is so well written and complete. Gale also both are the best by far this video prove this gladly.
Gale and Lae'zel both are one of my favourite characters in this game ☺.
Bazel is the main character.
CHANGE MY MIND
Wyll disappeared for me too. It was such a confusing run, too many elements that cancelled each other out and prevented other camp events from happening. I was going for a no long rest run, I killed goblin leaders without ever finishing the grove entrance fight, left Gale there and switched to out of combat party member and didn't finish Gale's turn. After killing goblin leaders I went back to the grove all bloody and bruised up to recruit the final party member of act I, Wyll, who wasn't there. There was no bugbear assassin, no Mattis and the other kids, Arabella died offscreen and her parents were nowhere to be found even at the tiefling party, no Bex or Danis either. In act 2 I didn't see Bex either but Danis was in Moonrise Prison, somehow Bex died somewhere? Never found her body in shadowlands. Danis was a sad widower without her. I tried experimenting more and reloaded to try and find Wyll, finally found him during the 3rd long rest before going to mountain pass. Why the 3rd long rest? I kept avoiding Raphael so his presence in the camp took precedence over Wyll attacking Karlach. If I went to mountain pass immediately after the goblin quest then the forced long rest would have Raphael at my camp and no tiefling party, so no Halsin. Which collectively meant that I lost Halsin and Wyll because I was going too fast while avoiding the devil and not long resting. Pros? got helldusk armor during act 1 and Raphael had 1 HP for the rest of the game since I beat him up in the camp. Cons? missing characters. For some reason Alfira was playing lute for kids when there were no kids left. Poor girl.
Wow. Thank you for your insight and experience which you shared with all of us in here. I really appreciate it. This game has certain actions strictly tied to the long rest, it seems. I can not imagine Bex and Danis not able to get reunited under the stars. That last one where Alfira was playing Lute - that is both sad and casts a chilling effect upon the player too. Once again, thank you for sharing your experiences .
What if you don't recruit Shadowheart on the beach in act 1 and you never go to the goblin encampment, so she never comes with the artifact to save you.
The game does not let you change a region without Shadowheart showing up to save you except regions like the Underdark and Grymforge.
@@kapitainein Ahh, ok. So even if you try to enter act 2 through Grymforge she follows?
@@stefannilsson2406 Yes. I wonder whether she swims all the way to meet you 😅.
@@kapitainein The mental image you just gave me is hilarious, lol!
@@kapitainein The funny thing is that canonically she doesn't know how to swim
Oh, nice save of Laezel.
I couldn't have done it without the guidance of a wonderful person in my previous video telling me what was needed to be done in order to save her.
Parallel universes. Very interesting indeed.
@@eriklee1604 Some might say that these are bugs, others - glitch, but to say it's a parallel universe is raising the standard of this game a whole new level 💯.
I just watched the video on avoiding the origins. Commented that ibwanted to try with all to kill and take into act 3. Then stumbled upon this. Thanks for the answers!
Thank you so much for being in here. I'm glad you found this video helpful .
Wildshape yourself into an owlbear, then put Karlach into your inventory. I think a bear is also good enough. If you're not a druid, have a chat with skeleton father and turn yourself into a druid.
I'll try it out immediately. Thank you so much 😃.
Apparently another way to save Karlach is for her to become a mindflayer
Yes, it is true. I used to do this until I found out she can return to Avernus.
This way isn't actually saving her, she dies and the tadpole pretends to be her
@@ZombroVT Exactly, she loses her soul and is doomed to become a brain eating monster sooner or later. Even Orpheus couldn't avoid that, I convinced him to not kill himself but he said that he won't be himself for long and just fucks off into astral plane never to be found.
@@ZombroVT It's debatable whether this is what happens in the game. It's a Theseus Ship problem.
Omeluum has managed to stay good for many years, so that puts some doubt on whether you really have no choice but become a monster over time.
Can someone explain me how I get that cut scene of shadowheart? Cuz I remember after I killed the entire goblin camp I avoided and didn't talk to her at all and went straight to act 2 can someone tell me how I get that cut scene I don't understand
You need to go back to Act 1 for that. To get this particular scene, she needs to be put inside the camp chest box just before entering the shadowfell (never recruit her before that). After coming back from the shadowfell, if you make your way towards the camp, this cutscene will trigger automatically. Please take care of Shadowheart after that .
I managed to get that cutscene just by never having her in my party from the goblin camp onward (she was bugged to have "enemy of justice" flagged on her file for all factions. So every time she was in my party everyone aggro'd on her... so I just left her at camp with maybe 20 approval.) Not letting her deal with Nightsong drops her approval by 50 so if it's not high to begin with, she'll then leave your party.
@@bunnyboygamille This is very interesting.
Amazing!
Amazing game and it's amazing community .
You made Shadowheart an eccentric grandma? Appreciated, truth leaking out!!! 🤣
Oh no😅.
None of this is allowed. If you are new to the game please understand that you must not do any of this. This is not for you. no. So naughty.
Well said. This path is never to be taken in during the first playthrough. As for me, my first playthrough was on 'Explorer' difficulty and still managed to completely miss out on Gale and Minsc.
Ugh … I can’t watch Gale sacrifice himself 😭
@@AngelofAmbrosia I can't watch it either. I thought the dialogue options regarding the Netherese Orb would not surface because he did not meet Elminster.
shar's giving shadowheart the curse ++
Does seem to fit in somehow if the player just follows this path. It might be a bug, but as long as Shadowheart loses her memory over it, well 😅.
Oh yea fun fact, Shadowheart can get REALLY BUGGY if you take her body with you, like, not joking, Shadowhear would pop in random cutscenes, completely naked, with the Shar lance, she showed up at the end fight cutscene, then disapeared for the end reunion..... creepy
@@jeanmouloude I didn't know Shadowheart had this bug feature. 😅
Bug? Bruh, this is Shar getting pissy at the DM for not letting her play a part in the story.
The funniest part about this to me is that you carried Astarion all the way to Cazador and it’s obvious that Larian never thought of the possibility because there are no unique lines for this 😂
I was just happy to see Astarion running away to the camp right in front of Cazador. So many permutations are involved to make a good RPG game like BG3. Sometimes the devs think like - Nah, I wonder if the players'll do it. Will they do it? I wonder how they'll do it.
Hilarious hearing gale thank us,,,
He is a true gentleman 😃.
honestly, the game needs some special lines for these scenarios
Agreed. It would've been great to hear every character at least mocking the player to approach them so late 🤭.
Good Content but presentation was really bad. Hard to understand what is happening sometimes.
Thank you for your feedback, I appreciate it. I'll try to do better :)
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Aw.. Thank you so much for liking the video .
what's the song called that starts at around 15:03?
BG3 OST - Nine Blades.
@@kapitainein thanks
I love how Shart starts as an obsessed stalker who demands you hang out with her, when you finally accept she's acting snarky and gets annoyed everytime you try to get to know her better, then one day suddenly starts screaming at you, saying you ruined her life and she doesn't want to ever see you again.
Most realistic female character in video games.
Idk what you mean. She started off absolutely hating my Tav, don't know why. I never encountered her until getting to the Goblin Camp, didn't encounter her on the Nautiloid or anything. She just like, auto despised me.
She liked my Dark Urge Githyanki Monk, Tavia. Which was weird because she kept hating on Lae'zel and being racist XD
I never get Astarion or Gale, funnily enough, if you never get Astarion, (don't kill him just avoid him, same with Gale) you will find him when you go to kill Cazador, he is named Zombie Astarion, I never new what happened to gale, like he dropped off the face of the sword coast, and there is one playthrough that I decided not to get Lae'zel ether, (even when you ignore her at the Creshe or deny her to come with you) for some reason you will finder her in the shadow cursed land, dead. But now I know why, strange she's just a little way off, I'm assuming the cut scene takes longer than Lea'zel has life...lol
I wouldn't know about it either if it wasn't mentioned in the comments. I sincerely believe that the community members are the most helpful and generous while exchanging information about the different outcomes.
From what I gathered around the internet, the Gur Hunter Gandrel got Astarion, and Cazador sent his spawn to get the body.
Gale never gets out of the little pocket dimension he made and blows up in it.
You purposefully never recruit two of the game’s origin characters, who are both tied to excellent content, character development, and voice acting? Idk why you’d go out of your way to avoid them but to each their own lol
@@rebeccawildman8787 First few times I played the game I did, Gale pretty cool except he likes to eat my magical items ('m a collector, I don't give up nothing) plus Gale is just way too thirsty, an hour into the game and he's already trying to get it on with my character, And Astarion's just an asshole...lol I liked his quest though killing his former master was fun, if you don't recruit him he will end up at Cazador's mansion as 'zombie Astarion', Playing the game in different ways makes it more fun, you should really try different ways, like killing Shadowheart as a Githyanki, never recruiting Lae'zel etc, play the game the same way all the time you will never know how deep the devs went. Every time I try something different it seems the deves have already though of it, Larian is one hell of a game producer, no wonder they literally won EVERY award...lol. You should try it some time I'm sure you would enjoy the game more.👍💯
I just did that in patch 7 and my Shart never crawled out of the chest after dealing with Aylin. But I resurrected her in act 3 and she thinks we are in act 1 still, she wouldn't speak to me for the first couple of days tho: "I can't talk right now" XD But she eventually let me talk to her and I got her to admit about shar worship. She even reacted to the graffitti in lower city. I'm so curious how it will go :D
It's so good to hear your experience with Shadowheart in this particular situation. "I can't talk right now", wow. Please do tell what happened afterwards because I'm curious 😃.
I'm on my third playthrough now, and for the first time I had to kill her in the nightsong chamber. I had baseline approval since i havent talked to her since recruiting her. After seeing her speech about wanting to make a choice of her own, i feel bad about killing her...
I understand. I had the same problem in my first playthrough. In short, I was so overwhelmed by the gameplay and RPG elements, it was very difficult for me to concentrate on only one character so I used the 'jack of all' method - No romance, no dialogue choices that may bring anyone closer. No romance. Nada. Then I was faced with the NIghtsong chapter. Went there without Shadowheart because though I had recruited her, I never talked to her. So she told me those lines and left the party permanently. I was like what in the nine hells just happened? Why leave?
I didn’t interact with astarion at all until the end of act 2 and recruited him right before moonrise lol
I'm so glad to hear it. I know the internet has a divided opinion about him but love him or hate him, at least please recruit him 😇.
I have tried to kill Wyll then get Karlach. but I think I broke him because you can't talk to him or recruit him even if you revive him.
Same here. It seems that after being revived at the camp, he simply stands beside Karlach sipping on wine and whenever I try to talk with him, Wyll simply says - Not now, no time to chatter 😅.
what was the melody at the end with shadowheart cutscenes?
BG3 OST - Nine Blades.
How do you get vlakith to show up at camp? I’ve done both laezel paths and never had that scene :(
She appears during the first night in the Act 3 if you had sided with Kith'Rak Voss after coming out of the Githiyanki cre'che .
She’s supposed to show up no matter what you do with Voss, just long-rest as soon as you get to act 3 after receiving the pale worm.
Without spoiling, I will say there are two paths for Lae’zel and depending on previous choices you’ll have two different persuasion paths that impact her endings.
Did Lae'zel get kidnapped by Orin before this cutscene had a chance to happen?
Would giving Shadowheart the Noblestalk from the Underdark restore her memories?
She has a very limited interaction with Tav if you follow this path. Honestly, I don't think the Devs were expecting this outcome for Shadowheart.
It's not *really* amnesia, it's clearly an exploit that can be rationalized in lore as amnesia
Wait,I thought they patched Out the ability,to Put corpses into the camp chest?I certainly was Not able to...
If it was patched on earlier then I don't really have a clue how it was restored. We know the Larian Studios cares a lot for it's community. Maybe they reverted it back.
@@kapitainein they may be on console cant do this on console at all anymore
I was able to do it in my last playthrough, not too long ago.
Ecen now the amount of options and pathways in this game that i never saw before are showing up in reccomended vids. I cant imagine howbig the script was and how long it took to film. Im in my second playthrough, the first one i missed Karlack
Thank you so much for being in here. This gem of a game seems to be offering up new possibilities whenever we are trying out a different route. I missed Gale in my first playthrough and almost Karlach too until I started following the blood spatter in the grounds. Gods, I was completely amateur before and still am but I somehow feel this game never bores me out and keeps surprising me till date .
@kapitainein I know what you mean, I also didn't know about Wyll for quite a while in my first playthrough and would have missed him if my friend hadn't mentioned him. This game truly is a masterpiece, despite its huge length when I got near the end it still didn't feel like enough and I missed it before even it ending. I'd say the one thing I was mildly let down with is well you know the 3rd act is building an army, I thought your allies woukd be more involved but if you are max leveled you can make it to the final boss without calling for help. I also wished it showed more of what jappened with everyone not in party in the epilogue, but tgats it I loved everything else
Wait what happened with Shadowheart? i missed something.
Shadowheart loses her short term memories on a permanent basis if certain conditions were left unfulfilled.
@@kapitainein thanks - i got that part but I didn’t follow what you did with her to “cure” her. Interesting video!
14:06 Okitegami Kyouko lol
Wow. Two characters from different genre, both suffering from same condition and these two also share similar hair styles 😮.
@@kapitainein Yeah!
how does SHart get white hair? i thought she usually gets white hair after ascension so how did she get white hair if you never even brought her to shadowfell?
If you should ever follow this path for Shadowheart, speaking with Nightsong while Shadowheart is in your party jumps into a cutscene where S-Hart is told about her parents and also the 'wolf-scene' mind swap happens. So in this way Shadowheart now knows the truth. Then only she decides to color her hair white 😊.
shadowheart gains a very traumatizing memory back and her first priority is dyeing her hair 😂
This checks out irl honestly
@@naerolf09 Pretty realistic honestly. My sister had a baby, her hair was black, then my nephew (New baby) died due to complications roughly 2 months after he was born and my sister immediately went blonde like, the same day. Idk, maybe it's just a woman thing. Distressing news = Dye hair, I guess.
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Thank you so much ☺.
If she is recruited from the very beginning and built up right you can make Shadowheart one of the best mages in the game.
Why didn't anybody mention this to me earlier? Honestly, I think I've missed a solid chunk of Shadowheart's dialogues because I've never romanced ShadowH before. I usually give her the Warlock build for the game.
trickster rogue shadowheart = congrats trickster has a use now
Schizoheart
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a very pretentious start of a video...
Well this is a waste of time