R.C. Sproul: If God Is Sovereign, How Can Man Be Free?
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- The Scriptures teach that God is sovereign over all. The Scriptures also teach that man is responsible for his actions. Are the two teachings contradictory? In this session Dr. R.C. Sproul will address the perennial questions surrounding the relation between the sovereignty of God and the responsibility of man.
This message is from our 2008 West Coast Conference, Tough Questions Christians Face: • Tough Questions Christ...
Great blessing can come out of great sorrow. Covid for a lot of people brought fear and uncertainty. I was out of work and at home when God called me back to himself. I discovered R.C and John MacArthur and it became so clear how profound and alive the word of God is. I was raised in the word of faith and prosperity “gospel”. Listening to the word of God in its correct context and meaning was so life changing. I’m more than blessed to know the true Gospel of my lord and savior Jesus Christ.
None know the whole truth until we come face to face with Him.
@@uncasunga1800 doubting Thomas is more of that which surrounds thee. Your comment proves your status. Empty. Dull & void. RC Sproul is consistent where as John Macarthur bless him tarrys. And sir, you say your thoughts which are contrary to His word. For the Bible teaches Predestination by Election through Reconciliation. Yes, Regeneration is before Reconciliation. Just minimized and shortened etc for ease of understanding for the reader. Ugh. Drama. Ty RC drama. Predestination by Election through Regeneration Reconciliation Justification Sanctification and then Glorification. Ok. Romans 8 28-30 Romans 9 Titus 3, 5 Galatians 3 22 2 Corinthians 5 17-20. And there they say butbut they repented they did this or that. Bah hum bug. Did David do as all ye all say yay or nay? If you need a counselor & money it tight maybe we could work out your payment plan. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Amen! I too came out of that type of religious worldview...though, for me it leaned more towards the *Charismatic/Toronto blessing* arena than the *Word of faith/prosperity stuff. Though in truth, they are just two sides of the same coin!*
I got free around ten years ago, and like you, I also began listening to fantastic, scholarly Biblical exposition from the likes of the late, _great,_ *RC Sproul!* and *John MacArthur...* along with...
*James White*
*Steven Anderson* (🤣 Ha Ha Ha! Just kidding!)
*Dr. Michael Heiser*
...to name a few.
@@mbgrafix good news but you still are selfish self-centered self serving as we all are in different yet similar ways. Understand myself does. You've been this way for so long you cannot recognize how? Mean not harm or insult or offend but myself will not tell you. You must figure it out without being told how ye are selfish and robbing God the glory due his name. Vineyard is largely that foundation. Praise the Lord He had mercy on you and in His compassion freed you. What is the middle word in sIn? ☮
@@mbgrafix brother, millions don't get it. Romans 9. For me, the Lord gracious in His mercy upon me. And His compassion to save me and set me free when myself deserves His wrath. Not kindness nor His love but damnation. But in His mercy He chose me before the foundation of the world for salvation. To be holy and blameless in Him for the good pleasure of His will, amen. Ty Lord. John 15-16 👍☮
A great teacher. He was my Bible professor at Gordon College, 1966 to 1969. He profoundly influenced my life. Truly a gift from God.
Indeed my pops is a true lover of God and neighbors without ceasing but delight. And given the true key. Jesus christ YESHUA blameless one. Life given life kept! Worth respecting, honoring, loving, and giving my life for a friend kind of love. Upholders of God's true WILL.
@@oliverjamito9902 he
@@cjahng beloved, YESHUA Jesus christ. To some will say! The audacity of Jesus christ claiming to be God? He
Nothing at all, only God has a free well
@@santadejesusa199 indeed! YESHUA Jesus christ is the only 1? Whose "Free Will" not tainted. Yes, only 1 who have a TRUE FREE WILL. Beloved, but me and you became slaves to judgement! But to let you know. Through fire of high pressures of life. How else can YESHUA Jesus christ mold his true HOSTS and own? Through fire! Only true HOSTS and own can come out DIAMONDS! LOL! TRUTH AND PEACE REUNITE FOR GOOD.
Watching this in 2024 from Ethiopia, the video has been here for 9 years and God is passing his message through his servant for his beloved sons and daughters through media, this message answered my question which my fiends and I were discusing. praise to God.
Wonderful message!! My major takeaways: “God is free, His creatures are free, but God is more free than His creatures.”
God didn’t destroy our freedom; He elevated it. Free will does not equal autonomy. Without God, we are incapable of making the right choices.
@@NEMO-NEMO Just keep in your mind that God can do anything. It doesn't have to make perfect sense to you. All of the Truths about God make perfect sense, we just have trouble wrapping our heads around something so much more complex than ourselves.
That makes zero sense and is self contradictory
@@NEMO-NEMO you are a total narcissist God does not revolve everything he does around man
Wow you are disconnected from all of reality
@@uncasunga1800 That makes you just as lost as everyone else. You and me, I’m willing to admit, DO NOT, have all the answers to Gods’ ways. He has his reasons why he does what he does.
My question was posted to get some spiritual feed back from spiritually mature Christian people. Not idle comments that resolve nothing. Keep up please.
@@NEMO-NEMO you are a clueless narcissist you have no idea what I am
I can't articulate how refreshing it was to listen to R.C. just share God's Word without all the political commentary.
R.C. you are a gem.....rest in peace brother.
I imagine he is "resting" in complete peace, but fully active!
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He dont rest in peace , he is in heaven now
@@lalo2641 igvgcgvyvfy
@@vincentmalickal1811 don't understand your language
Moments of RC... from impeccable, God-glorifying preaching to hilarious watch-drops... God's sovereignty is so gracious to us in providing such a delightful teacher. I can't wait to meet him in eternity.
Yes, Praise the Lord for His everything and blessing us who are called, chosen before the foundation of the world for salvation too listen now to RC Sproul! An instrument of peace exercising his faith to next levels. Not being satisfied with what he learned but going deeper to extract as much knowledge as possible to share w others! All glory to God and Father Gzus the Christ !!
In eternity our all focus is on Christ alone. We will met together in heaven (Calvin, Luther, Swingli, RC and to all the saints. and we all together sing praises to our Lord on that very day.
There's nothing about RC Sproul's vitriol that glorifies God! Nothing!
@@masimba5000 what vitriol?
@@sammyt4549 Everything that comes out RC Sproul's mouth concerning Christ is rancid and foul. And I saw 3 unclean spirits, like frogs, come out of the mouth of the false prophet RC Sproul [Revelation 16:13]. And there shall also be false teachers like RC Sproul, among you [2Peter 2:1]. And there was a man called RC Sproul, which before time used sorcery and bewitched the people of America and the rest of the world, giving out that he himself was someone great[Acts 8:9]. To who you ALL listen to[Acts 8:10], saying, This man RC Sprawl is the great power of God. And to RC Sproul you give great regard because he has hypnotized you with all his lies[Acts 8:11]
RC was such a amazing teacher...... He never used notes also because he was so dedicated to the word and so sound.... RIP brother RC.....
To all the people: Pray!!! 🎺🎺🎺To be written your Name in the book of life!!! I will shouted to all of you! Our Almighty Father the Lord Jesus Christ the Holy Spirit is the truth!!! He is a powerful! And near to come.
This is the KEY for the KINGDOM OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST IN HEAVEN!!! Matthew 16: 19
This is the gift of our Lord Jesus Christ to us according to our work's, the prayer...
#1/ PRAY: THE LORD OF PARDON: PADRE NUESTRO Padre nuestro que estás en los cielos,
Santificado sea Tu Nombre.
Venga Tu reino. Hágase Tu voluntad así en la tierra como en el cielo. Danos hoy nuestro pan de cada día. Perdona nuestras ofensas, así como también nosotros perdonamos a los que nos ofenden. No nos dejes caer en la tentación y líbranos del mal.
Tuyos son el reino, el poder y la gloria por los siglos de los siglos, Amén
#2/That is mean THE LORD`s PRAYER: OUR FATHER, who art in heaven, hollowed be thy name. Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead as not into temptation, But deliver us from evil. Amen.
#3/ Plus in your dialect, Pray fifteen times per day in one year. Saved and send to your friends to become HOLY like you. And all our Sin must be paid for that prayer.
#4/ Acts 10: 45-47/ Mateo 16: 19
#5/ I AM YE, THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH (JN 16: 13-15 /JN 8: 55) JN 10: 30 /
Mt 23: 9-12 / Isaiah 66: 1-3)
The light, the voice, the Father, Allah, Yahweh , Lord, Panginoon, the King Lord Jesus Christ is in one I saw and I talk to the Lord in his Kingdom in heaven within seven hours./ I will invite you all to the wedding of the Lord Jesus Christ. The prayer is the invitation for the wedding of the Lord. Even what kind of Religion you are in.
/Rev19: 7-9.
That is the way on how you can recieve your Eternal Life...
That prayer is our Salvation came from OUR FATHER in heaven. And we are already baptized to the HOLY SPIRIT of the Lord for that prayer.
The Lord said to send that prayer to all the people in the whole world!!!
This is your Salvation and power then you can have Eternal life.
This is the gift of your God to you and to your family.......
PRAY and forward to your friends......🙏 🎺 🎺 🎺
People’s names are already written in the book of life before the creation of the world!
So sad that some vulgar rant can go viral and this excellent sermon, after four years, has only 15,000 views. Darkness is upon the land.
Brad Johnson Which vulgar rant?
I agree
@@davidlane147 It's hypothetical.
it just prove the whole point of the sermon that we canot choose the LORD if the holy spirit does not work on you first.
now 28k have seen it still some vidios get a 1m after 2 hours and still from the 28k probaly only 10% if that much trully belive and live accepting that GOD IS SOVEREIGN in their lives and that acceptance is what separete those that are borne again from those that are not , it will no matter what your mouth say if you do accept GOD a sovereing over your life you will bear fruit.
Darkness has been upon the land since BC. Vulgar rants have been going on forever. To the point of this "excellent sermon" that's all you have to say? Your mind, touched by RCS, can only focus on such topics? How about the life-changing message? How it touched you? How you filled with such exquisite exhortation reg. free will can bring light into the land & set an example to those lost in their vulgar rants?
RC Sproul and John MacArthur have been such a blessing to my wife, my family and myself. Plain teaching from the scriptures-wow!
My only caveat is MacArthur stated you can recieve the mark of beast and still be saved. The scripture clearly states the opposite. Do a search on RUclips for when he made the statement, it creeped me out.
They are two of the best for sure!
I was saved after listening to John MacArthur. Definitely a combination of RC Sproul in there as well. I would hear John on the radio and it would hurt and sting to hear his words explaining the Scriptures. My heart was convicted, and I truly gave it to the Lord at the age of 56. I was baptized when I was eight years old, and knew who Jesus was. I did not know him as Lord. Praise God for his wonderful salvation through Jesus Christ, my Lord.❤
@@df224 I called Grace To You and ask them about this. They said actually sent me something in the mail, explaining what John meant. I think he might regret having said that, but his point was any heart that is truly repented has the ability to be saved. Because nobody completely sold out to the devil can be truly repentant. I think that might’ve been his point. No one is going to sell out to the devil and then turn around and repent. Too bad that was confusing for many and me as well. But I think his main point was if you can call upon the Lord, the Lord says anyone who calls on him, he will not cast away. It was probably not a great idea to mix it with that mark of the beast. God bless you and it’s so great to hear RC preach.
Because God is sovereign, man is free to do what he wants. Nothing can happen that'll thwart sovereign God. That's His glory.
Oh wow. THIS was (is) a powerful message. Praise God that he allowed me to hear it. And May it never, ever leave my wretched, evil heart that God is Sovereign.
Amen brother. I agree.
No lie. This was dead on accurate. This talk right here makes me say, forgive me Lord, please
I hope all is well with you- love the name ole wutzhisface 😅
I thank you Lord God for giving us your humble servant R. C. Sproul.
I learn so much by just sitting and listening to him as he patiently and lovingly preaches from your precious Word.
“How beautiful upon the mountains Are the feet of him who brings good news, Who proclaims peace, Who brings glad tidings of good things, Who proclaims salvation, Who says to Zion, “Your God reigns!””
Isaiah 52:7
Wonderful
Nice quote 🙂
Vintage Sproul, enlightening our minds to truth
I've listened to this message from RC _at least_ half a dozen times!
_...and I still have yet to grow tired of it._
*When can I listen again?*
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Whenever you choose 🤔
@@chefjimmie1
Indeed!
You too are a fan?
Send it to yourself and you can listen as often as you want.
@@nelsonbyrd3512
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I love my brother RC! I will see him soon as I dont see that Christ could tarry much longer.
Imagine being a part of the ecclesia in iran / China.
My your soul be strengthened and spirit lifted, Trese.
I certainly hope and pray He won't tarry.
@@kelletttothechad I can't. They've got it much worse than us, and all I can do is thank God for my easy life and pray for their struggles.
I've been waiting on the Lord's return for quite a few years now, your post is a year old. Look how much worse things are in the last year, not just America, but the world too for that matter.
I can piece together some disjointed events in my own life and see God’s sovereignty
FEW people are able to relay the word of God as eloquently, naturally, and lovingly as RC. I truly feel God's love seeping through this man's voice. If you don't feel uplifted after listening to him I pray for you to seek out and form your relationship with God the way I am because we desperately need it
Yes, absolutely I agree. It's brilliant
I got saved in the Catholic Church and then was enticed to attend a Word of Faith church because who don’t want to be healthy and rich? After several years of my life and experience not lining up with what I was being taught, I set out to discover biblical teaching that gave me peace in it’s clarity. After some deep study I came to embrace reformed theology. Thank God for his grace to lead me to these dynamic teachers.
שלום
God is sovereign. The Nail to the start of my salvation was actually me cussing out one of my friends. And through many many different things God rescued me into himself.
Love RC Sproul. So lucky to be out of this old world.
There is no such thing as luck! :)
@@AboveGodsName I agree. Bad choice of words.
@@patsyjeanflaharty5318 Hey, we understand what you mean. No worries.
Thank God for the essential work of the late Dr. R.C. Sproul! This message is so good and affirming that I will probably listen to it three or four times this week (time permitting). No other theologian was more instrumental in my journey to the Reformed faith than the beloved R.C. Sproul. God be Praised! I pray that innumerable souls will receive the blessings and the proper view of God that this teaching provides.
Same here brother, I would probably, insert John Mac's name for myself that is.
(…time permitting) but, …we already have all the time there is, and it’s up to us to be good stewards of the time we have.
@@ecanet Kommie-law word salad anyone?
Dear Lord thank you for putting this man in my life I love his ministry!!
I am fearfully and wonderfully made praise God for his sovereignty
So glad I was guided to this man's teaching.
He must increase eye must decrease. You almost got it. So glad the Holy Spirit chose me to learn from this man, or too learn from RC Sproul. See how the object of your faith is now the Holy Spirit and not you? He must increase " I " must decrease.
One of the greatest messages I have ever heard.he is my favorite teacher
John said about RC that he was the greatest!
And it is a lie and not true at all.
@@tomkennedy8305 Jesus is the greatest
I was born Again Christian on October 3 2015 Thank God Lord Amen
To whom it may concern:
For several months now I've been struggling with this issue and have sought out debates, talks, messages, letters, documents, etc..., anything that may help me reach a conclusion for myself. Not what was taught to me as a child, not what I was raised up around and to believe, but I desired to form my own opinion on my own and found my answer through this message. I'm not sure who RC Sproul is except a preacher of course, but I've never heard the man before this video and I watched every second of it and I'm convinced God is Sovereign above all else. The way he described what free will is "Self-Law" / "Self-Rule" made it easy for me to understand and comprehend it all for myself. Maybe that's not profound for many of you who got it 50 years ago I know, but it did wonders for me:)
Thank you so much Lord for this man of God, Pastor RC Sproul, for the one of the most beautiful messages I've ever heard in my life! I love You Lord! ❤️
When this man went on to his reward, this world lost a brilliant man.
Wow, RC hit this one out of the park! I am so happy that God works evil purposes for His good. What a message of hope.
People need to stop thinking that God doesn't want you to have adversity. Having adversity is inextricably linked to picking up your cross and following Jesus. I hear many people wax on and on about how God loves us unconditionally, and that couldn't be further from the truth. How can God judge us if he loves us unconditionally? How can he even love us if he loves us unconditionally? He can't. That is the biggest snare in the church right now. We all must come to terms with the fact that God expects us to have adversity, and there's nothing he can do about it. This life is short, and compared with eternal life, I believe we can deal with our cross.
God does love us unconditionally. God commended he His love towards us in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us. (Romans 5:8) A parent may punish a child for doing wrong but that does not mean the parent doesn’t love the child.
Discipline is LOVE @jamesbates3309. Read Hebrews where God says "My son, do NOT despise the chastening of the Lord, nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him, for whom the Lord loves He chastens, and scourges every son whom He received. Then look at this verse James - God says
"If you are without chastening, then YOU ARE ILLEGITIMATE AND NOT SONS. Isn't that profound? If you want to check it out it's Hebrews 12: 5 - 8 and onwards. God bless you brother.
What an absolutely incredible message!!!! Thank you Lord for the teachers you have given us
I ask the. Arminian,can blindness open its eyes nor deafness its ears,?,,then you may also do good which is accustomed to evil?,
WHATS MORE INCREDIBLE IS TO BELIEVE THAT GOD CHOSE SOME PEOPLE FOR HEAVEN AND OTHERS FOR HELL. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT?
This was such a helpful and clarifying sermon! I already believe in the reformed tenants of our faith, but find it challenging at times to present these doctrines logically to others who do not see clearly...and the late DR RC has excellently equipped me to do so. Praise be to God for the legacy of this beloved pastor! 💛
It's ironic that I came across this message this morning. Several hours ago, I read the Crucial Questions booklet by R.C. Sproul called, "What Does It Mean That God Is Sovereign?" This information in this sermon is dealt with in that booklet. Great stuff!!!❤
I have experienced in my 49 years of christian life this preached truth from of Dr. Sproul. I thank God that He had given this man of God to His church as one of the best teachers in the history of Christianity.
Amen and Amen
Wow. Wow. Wow! I love the Word of God!
Amen Karen, you're not alone sister!
That one hit every nerve
Isnt it a COMFORTING absolute, to know that God IS Sovereign?? I thank him every day for this, during such dark times as these. ❤❤❤
I used to go to John MacArthur's church when I was at UCLA and I remember watching RC Sproul's video series on the holiness of God. So amazing and so beautiful. I was crying during this video. What a gift of teaching RC Sproul was given.
I think the primary problem that people have is accepting that human beings fall short of the glory of God's love. We think that we would have been good like Jesus Christ if only Adam had not eaten of the fruit in the garden. But of all human beings, only Jesus Christ is capable of perfect obedience to God as God alone is good. The rest of us can only be good with the help of the Holy Spirit dwelling within us once we have accepted Jesus Christ. If it were otherwise and human beings could be good independent of God's help through the work of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, why would God inflict us with evil? This is the fundamental contradiction that people see. They think that human beings can be good without God and that God, therefore, made us evil.
If we take what the Bible says seriously and believe that God alone is good, a better understanding of God's plan is possible: ajourneyoffaith.ca/2020/09/23/the-plan-of-god/
God have given men the choice to continually dwell in our default nature of depravity or to choose way of Life that God is Light of life
RC was and continues to be such a blessing in my life
We need to be reminded that God is good all the time. Thank you, LORD Jesus, for taking my sins away. Help me keep my eyes on Jesus and not on the worries of this world...pain and suffering is only for a short season.
Glory To GOD!!!
Thank you R.C. Sproul!
"You cannot choose what you don't know"
Yes.
What can be said, this was pure excellence in a difficult subject. Thank you Lord for making this possible to hear. A blessing.
Yes, I totally agree. It blew me away.
God’s desire is that we desire him more than our freedom
No
He hates his enemies and repays them to their face
Fake charlatan
God does not "desire" anything as if He neeeds you go dependent narcissist.
He decided on everything already.
If WE delight ourselves in Him we receive the desire of our heart.
YHVH Elohim God is in perfect harmony with Himself by Himself without anyone forever.
@@uncasunga1800 Micah 6:8
8 He has shown you, O mortal, what is good.
And what does the Lord require of you?
To act justly and to love mercy
and to walk humbly[a] with your God.
@@uncasunga1800 Matthew 9:12-14
New King James Version
12 When Jesus heard that, He said to them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. 13 But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice.’ For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, [a]to repentance.”
Brilliant explanation of a conundrum that has separated believers for centuries. God truly used this scholar to simplify this necessary subject. He was a brilliant individual who simplified this subject, thank you Jesus!!
It does not separate believers. It separates those who believe in YHVH being the absolute only one righteous from those who do not.
Another great sermon from RC..Thankyou Lord for giving us a great preacher of your WORD..I will continue to listen and miss him, but i know he is with you in paradise.
It is so amazing how RC can explain a seemingly unsolvable conundrum in a clear, simple yet compelling manner. Thank you.
Who can replace RC? Lord send another gifted teacher with exposition of scripture to keep us grounded in truth!
My eyes oozed tears through this whole heartfelt message❤️🙏
Rest in the Truth.
Thank you for that blessing. Hallelujah.
Can't explain it in this tiny space... but I 'got this answer'. And there are no restrictions to our freedom. God has NO FREEDOM - He has made promises that He CANNOT break. His 'power' is demonstrated in accordance with OUR 'obedience'.
*EXCELLENT* explanation of an age old and difficult subject made very clear to even a young Christian like me... 🙏🏾
I've been a Christian for 30 years, only about 20 of it reformed, I WISH that it was all 30! It's my favorite and most beloved doctrine. So many verses that are just crystal clear on this subject of God's sovereignty in salvation. Steer clear of non reformed preachers, that's my advice to a newer believer. I'm glad, that by God's grace, that you're in this wonderful family of God.
I suppose you can spend your whole life trying to figure this out. I'm certainly not smart enough. The only way I can somewhat make sense of it is to imagine it as a book or movie. The author has written the story and decided all that will happen. But within the story, the characters make their own decisions as well. It's not a perfect illustration. But it's the one that helps me stay sane when I start thinking about this. (Once again, it's amazing to see R.C. here and realize... he now knows / understands these things better than we ever can in this life!)
What deep wisdom given to RC by the Most High...and what an excellent teaching and message that few even contemplate upon. Thank you Lord God Almighty for giving us wisdom and understanding and insight and comprehension, in Yahshua the Messiah and his free gift offered to those predestined to become Sons and Daughters of the Almighty God!
Thank You R C Sproul. In the fullness of time, God prevails. I have been wrestling with this idea for a long time.
If someone can explain how God could allow Eve to rebel and go against the word of God, then I can believe man does not have free will.
While he was explaining the story of Joseph and his brothers it came to me. It was the word, "Before the foundation of the world".
Eternity did not begin with Genesis chapter one verse one. Eternity IS! Satan was thrown out of heaven before that. He was present in the garden
before Adam. God did not create something void and without form. There was evil and God wanted to deal with it. Satan had the
power to choose while yet the covering Cherub. He chose to elevate himself to be equal with the sovereign God. That is what caused war in Heaven and
he, and those that followed him were thrown out of their first estate. Man is created for good works, and that is to follow God and be instruments in his hand.
To overcome evil, not by the strength of man, but by being willing to allow the sovereignty of God work through him. Yes, I can by my fallen nature
resist but God will prevail.
Eph 1:4
According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
I Love listening to and praying with this excellent Preacher!
1/9/24
I'm so missing Dr. Dr.R.C.Sproul such a wonderful man of God, just simply classic ❤🕊 I've learned his apologetic teachings, listening to him on Moody Radio 90.1
Rest well Doc R.C.S. ✝️ 💙 🕊
20+ years ago, I used to listen to RC, JM, and CS on WAVA 105.1 in the DC area. It’s good to hear him again. Thanks for posting.
Wow, unbelievably clear explanation of God's sovereignty versus human will.
Proverbs 2:21-22 "For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall remain in it. But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it."
Wow, this was amazing
We do serve a Sovereign God.
I miss R. C Sproul
WHY DID HE BELIEVE THAT GOD CHOSE SOME PEOPLE FOR HEAVEN AND OTHERS FOR HELL. CAN YOU FIND THAT IN THE BIBLE?
@@georgeluna9729 God loves you fellow believer in Christ Jesus. I know this sounds very cruel and unjust of God to predestinate some people to hell and others to heaven and I get that, I do; it kind of makes God look bad and we would never want that. You and I we both have solid confidence in the goodness of God and in His Holiness. There was a time I was very much against this doctrine but now I thank God for graciously revealing His attributes to me. I therefore urge you and plead with you to not let your prejudice rob you of the divine knowledge of His attributes. I do admire your zeal for His name. Coming back to your question. ( Does God choose some people for heaven and others for hell ? ) if you really think about it and ponder on this question, what you are trying to say here is that God shouldn't choose someone's destination or God shouldn't choose to send me to heaven/hell. It indirectly implies that I should choose or I should 'deserve' heaven or hell inorder to go there. Well, no one deserves heaven and everyone deserves hell. God is being gracious to me and to you by showing His mercy and His Love in the Cross of Christ. And this grace was justified by crucifying Christ on our behalf, we escaped rightly deserved wrath which Christ endured for us thats why it says, 'that He might be Just and the Justifier' ( Romans 3:26 ). On the other hand, when God sends people to hell He is again being just because they justly deserve hell like we did before we got saved. Both His Love for us the undeserving and His wrath for the deserving is just. So you see God is not choosing for them to go to hell, they are choosing it for themselves ( Roman 1:18-32 ) but for us God is choosing to be merciful for He says, 'I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion' ( Exodus 33:19 and Romans 9:15 ) Roman 9 is terrifyingly beautiful chapter. So by not choosing to be merciful for some, is God predestinating them to hell ? you might ask, and for that my friend please please read about God's sovereignty, infact this video must have cleared many such doubts. I pray that you read and study about His attributes, this has given me the most joy.
The Bible verses you requested as given by Dr John Piper on his podcast -
( Ephesians 1:11 , Proverbs 16:4 , 1 Peter 2:7-8 , Jude 4 , 2 Peter 2:3 , Romans 9:11 , Romans 9:22 )
Roman 1 and 9 will help.
I will end with this,
I understand if some doctrine hurts our understanding of God we reject it by becoming defensive. I would say let His word defend Him. Sometimes it is beyond our understanding and it is our inability to grasp the magnitude of His attributes that clouds our judgement. With much prayer and help from the Holy Spirit Christ becomes more beautiful and His word more Loving.
No one can find fault in Him.
'This God-his way is perfect; the word of the LORD proves true' ( Psalm 18-30 )
I'm free to worship to declare the word of god ..that's good enough for me .
The Truth is immovable, and unstoppable.
Christian archeologists are unable to find any evidence for Moses or Exodus. It seems that the Jews were merely another shabby tribe in Palestine in (000 BC and needed to rewrite their shabby history. The facts are at your fingertips. It's called the internet.
@@martinkent333 that is not true. There is a video on youtube, The Search ForThe Real Mt. Sinai. They follow the trail up to the mountain with a scorched top, and a altar at the bottom.
The one uploaded by a Timothy Kim
@@MeanMrMustrd For 28,000 dollars, you can buy a grilled cheese sandwich, which has the face of Mother Mary, Powderpuff. One sold recently. Now, under your fingertips is something called the internet. It's great at finding truth. Christian archeologists are keen to find some evidence for the Jews before 900 BC, so call the religious colleges and try to get someone to listen to your Godly wisdom. I'm sure they will be delighted to hear your ideas. Myths are assisted by the gullible, who see miracles in grilled cheese sandwiches. Right?
@@martinkent333 instead of rambling, state your point
Wonderful - I can see how he’s standing on the shoulders of Jonathan Edwards
I’m speechless! What a profound message!
WHATS MORE PROFOUND IS THAT THIS GUY TEACHES THAT GOD CHOSE SOME PEOPLE FOR HEAVEN AND OTHERS FOR HELL. THATS RIGHT GO FIGURE!
Found myself giggling throughout this beautifully sound sermon. Great teacher/preacher.
What a great sermon!!!!Can't stop to listen. Thank to Sovereign God!!!
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I miss him
How someone can give a thumbs down to this sermon is beyond understanding. It's even logical. Praise be to Gods sovereignty!
If I heard the message accurately: what the down voter meant for evil God can use for good :)
We were blessed greatly when God saved R.C. and gave him the desire to teach us the gospel. I'm so thankful he is in heaven and we will see him again one day. I am so looking forward to heaven to be with Christ and meet all these godly men that have taught us the truth. Praise God.
I love Sproul. He never ceases to capture my heart with his messages. I love Sproul’s delivery of the story and principles from Joseph, and how he artfully connects it to the larger story.
However, on the main point regarding God’s sovereignty and man’s freedom or free will, did anyone notice an equivocation? He used the story of the Garden of Eden to illustrate that man’s freedom is limited, and God is “more free” than human beings, but later he used this “less-free / more-free” idea to say that this means man cannot choose good or choose God. He later said with conviction that no one chooses what they don’t want, or that every choice a person makes is what they *want* to choose. While I agree with this, it seems to contradict the earlier idea of limited freedom. The Garden of Eden story demonstrated man’s ability to choose for or against God’s good will, and doubles down on man’s freedom by saying that God had to put a flaming sword at the entrance to the garden to keep Adam and Eve out of it so they can’t get in and eat from the tree of life and live forever. They are limited, yes, but in terms of power, not free will. Why did God do this instead of simply limiting Adam and Eve’s free will to enter and eat from the tree of life? The point is we seem to have limited *power* over our environment, whether inside our body or outside. But this does not seem to limit our free will choices.
Again I love RC Sproul and deeply respect him and his ministry, but I cannot seem to agree with him completely on this topic.
Interesting what you noticed 🤔!!
In heaven we will have plenty of time to discuss that with R C 😃!! I love his way of communicating what he wants to say!!
@@gjergjiproko1549 Greetings. I'm not God to determine if RC Sproul is in Heaven. RC Sproul sure makes my God look more evil than Satan. God bless you.
Rev. Jonathan Edwards (sadly, so misunderstood on this very topic) would heartily approve, methinks. So love and wish I could've met this Giant, R.C. in this life. Look forward to giving him a BIG hug in the next, thanks to God's SOVEREIGNTY 😉
RC is resting in the presence of the Holy God that always overwhelmed him
May we also be in awe of the God of scripture not a god created by man SDG
I don't know why people clap in church, we are not to applaud a human. But to respect, appreciate our GOD is the one to be Landed,,
Our Father giving us His wisdom. This is June
This was/is such a blessing to watch.. Thank you Lord for this
If God Is Sovereign, How Can Man Be Free? This is an incoherent question. It is amazing that you gentlemen get together and declare that you understand the depth and breadth of God's sovereignty.
And yet you do. LOL!
@@Yesica1993 And yet I didn't. I don't claim that understanding and never have. Sproul says God is sovereign therefore, man's will cannot be free. I think God is sovereign therefore, he can allow man to choose if he wants. I cannot define God's sovereignty.
@@2wheelz3504 the bible defines it. But you refuse to read or believe that. Sproul did.
Pretty simple.
@@samniumspyder So, you understand the breadth and depth of God? You are truly amazing! We are treated to glimpses of it in Scripture, but to say I understand the sovereignty of God is presumptuous.
@@2wheelz3504it’s wild that not only do they spout such idiocy, but that during their lives they’ve never been called on it sufficiently for them to stop preaching it. Boggles the mind. How dumb are people?
53:47 to 54:41 I'm so grateful he went to the conference... Lol ... I've heard this message multiple times. Love it .
His closing prayer brought me to tears a little bit.
You are free to choose what you want but pay the consequences if you choose wrongly.
The wage of sin is death, yet no one seeketh after God not one! All fall short of the glory of God and no one is worthy to live and to meet and know God the Father. The heart is wicked and deceitful. This is why Jesus is the Savior to All. All need him because without him, All would be damned and judged. Without the imputation of Christs righteousness to ourselves we all deserve to die without being saved. So Praise YaH for sending his son in his own good pleasure to die for ALL of our Sins. HalleluYaH.
I have read a few books on this topic and listened to a few messages but no one has explained as RC in a simple yet so profound way. What a great saint God gave to His church!! 🙏🙏
For literally decades, I never understood a line from one of my all-time favorite movies, in the scene from Wall Street where Martin Sheen, playing Bud Fox's father, says to Michael Douglas/Gordon Gekko, "There came into Egypt a Pharoah who did not know." Now, having played this video at least twice, it finally registered and I finally know.
Man's freedom is GOD himself. Our Sovereign God is our freedom.
Glory to the Lamb of God!!!❤❤❤
Man, I can’t wait to meet R.C. in glory and talk about Sartre and Camus with him.
I never understand why some Christians view the "sovereignty" (as viewed by Calvinists) of God as an issue of his power. As if "If he doesn't control us, it means he can't."
Space cadet strawman jan
You are so out of touch with your false narrative propaganda you couldn't tie your own shoelaces with an iq that low hahahahhaha
If God doesn't control us we can't you intellectually defunct derelict hahahahahaha
What a clueless zombie
You’re correct, and the fact that the majority of famous pastors who can’t understand that shows, unfortunately, how true it is that intelligent people don’t usually go into ministry.
Clear thinker, great preacher, diligent servant of God!
The Sovereignty of God! Amen
Whenever Christian women are being beaten, raped or killed, God Almighty hears their cries for help and fervent prayers and does absolutely sweet fuck all. Why is that, Powderpuff? I'm curious?
You may have to re-watch the video to find your answer. Or, remain confused and lost and headed straight to Hotel Fire and Brimstone, where folks check in, but they can't check out. God bless
God’s intent in all of this was all together righteous. 15:13
It is relieving to God's people to know that all the evil that surrounds them is beneath the sovereignty of God.
God still working all things together for the good. Even in the midst of the evil that is growing. Now Brad Johnson there are close to 115,000 views as the world goes insane, people run to God.
This is a masterclass in teaching. Incredible talent.
If the king is truly sovereign he has the right to give his citizens as much freedom as he likes.
I’ve listened to this many times and need to listen to it many more times.
Preaching at its best!
A souveren Father that gives you free Choice between good and evil and is patient with you even if you rebel against him is truly a loving God, because he even provided a Solution for Salvation.
Men are indeed free until their Clock is up. Then comes Judgement / Responsibility with Freedom and giving Account for your Works. That is true Freedom.
Am so thankful that I have heard this video. Glory to God in the highest!
We are blessed to still have his words
If the immovable Force chooses to let us truly make choices then we can resist him.
John 5:40 "yet you refuse to come to me to have life."
We make day to day choices.
The irresistible Force does not choose to move all of us toward Him, and none of us have the ability to choose Him because we are dead in our sins. He chose some of us before the foundation of the world. He will return when He has gathered all the saints in His time.