Taylormade Qi10 Max vs. Mizuno ST Max 230 | Full Comparison + Review
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- In this video TEJ puts two of 2024's most highly anticipated "Max Forgiveness" driver models (Taylormade Qi10 Max & Mizuno ST Max) against each other to see how they compare. Is Mizuno finally a true player in the driver category or will Taylormade reign supreme? Watch to find out!
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0:00 Intro
0:19 Background Info on Drivers
2:57 Qi10 Max Testing (9*)
5:37 Qi10 Max Testing (7.5*)
8:10 ST-Max 230 Testing (9.5*)
10:12 ST-Max 230 Testing (7.5*)
14:40 Conclusions
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That’s why fitting is so important. I couldn’t stop hooking the mizuno. The QI10 Max was just a straight hitting, easy launching bomber with me. Both with my fitted shaft HZDS BLACK GEN 4 6.5 70g. Both 10.5 heads. Tried lofting down to open up but just couldn’t hit the mizuno straight. QI10 Max for me
I could agree more, fitting is absolutely vital!
The Qi10 Max is fantastic and I’m glad it’s working well for you 🙌
I’ve already got my new Mizuno max it’s an amazing club
Great review. I’m really interested in the ST-Max, but as a lefty, I’m having a hard time finding one to demo. Mizuno has done a great job expanding its lefty offerings in the ST-Max range - love that I could get a driver, 3W, 5W and 4H! But they haven’t sent any of my local shops lefty demo heads. Hope that changes!
Appreciate the kind words Eric!
I know they’ve struggled at providing certain stuff for lefties in the past, but as you said they are definitely getting better in that regard. Hopefully you can test it soon, it’s a super solid head!
For $100 less, that Mizuno is a no-brainer
Definitely hard to beat in terms of performance at the price point!
Have you tested the ST-Max yet?
@@TheEquipmentJunkie No, I personally don't care for the look of the carbon on top with the obvious blend near the face. TSi3 isn't leaving my bag any time soon.
I’m a big mizuno guy. I have my putter, wedges, irons, and 3 and 5 woods, all mizuno, I really wanted that Max driver to work for me, but the Calloway AI smoke max just won out for me. I thought it would’ve been cool to have an all mizuno bag…oh well. Great show, great review, thank you
Appreciate your support Ronald!
There are so many great drivers out nowadays and that’s the beauty of testing. The AI Smoke is definitely a great head as well!
Love my ST-X 230. I love to hit one good and people ask what it is. Love you have the OG of shafts there. I wanted that in my fit but another 300 bills was not happening. Maybe in time I can get it.
The small weight in the back is removable with a little heat. There are different weights available to dial it in more.
Great review. I hit these two plus the PING 10k max. All three felt good, but thought the Mizuno was a touch better. Qi10 definitely felt "soft". (but not unpleasant). I had similar results on spin with the Mizuno being a little lower spin for me. I swing slower (95mph) and went with the Mizuno.
Thanks David!
I’ll have G430 Max 10K in-hand here soon for testing. That said, would you prefer to see the Mizuno or Qi10 up against it ?
@@TheEquipmentJunkieyes please
Great review
Thanks a lot Frank, the support means a ton!!
Great review ! Playing the stx 220 model myself and does not play short compared to other drivers I’ve played. Actually it’s longer lol.
Appreciate the support Chad! Mizuno has done a great job in the metal-woods department these past few years. The 220 was such a solid head as well!
Are you looking into the 230 for 2024?
@@TheEquipmentJunkie I’m planning on using the 220 this year as well
I just bought the ST-230 Max. I tested it against the AI Smoke and they were extremely close. At the end of the day, I couldn’t justify spending $100 more for the Callaway.
How are you finding the ST Max, I have it on order
@@shaunkelley55 I think it’s great! I’ve gained 25 yards over my 4 year-old Tour Edge EXS 220. It has a muted sound at impact that makes you think the ball isn’t going to travel far, but once you follow the ball flight, you see that it has gone a long way. I’m also seeing tighter dispersion versus my old driver.
@@rdadams7507 thank you good to hear is it forgiving on miss hits
Great to hear you’ve got one in play, it’s a super solid head!
Solid review. I’m putting one of those in the bag this year.
Appreciate the kind words! Which one are you leaning towards?
@@TheEquipmentJunkie The ST Max 230. Love the draw bias of the TM driver but the lower price point, comparable performance, and I’m still playing my mp-68s 😂 makes me lean towards Mizuno.
@@GoodKounsel Great points. A cool idea for you could be to try and pull a bit of weight out of the back section of ST-Max and replace it with lead tape in the heel section. May help get the draw bias you are looking for.
Love to hear you're still playing the 68's, they are still such a solid blade!
@@TheEquipmentJunkie You’re my equipment guy from now on! Appreciate the tip as well. 👌🏾
tried theese and the ping 10k, 10k beat them both in all categories. feel, distance, dispersion.
I'm testing the new Mizuno driver. Put in my bag on Sunday. Need to get another few rounds before I decide to buy it.
The Mizuno is selling at £449.00 in the UK, it's a no brainer purchase.
Yep, currently looking at buying one
@@trustinflames1022 go try them out, they feel absolutely awesome, I've got the driver 3wd 5wd and 4hybrid all in the Max, they're all weapons. 👌🏼
Playing the St Max with a hzrdus green 6.5. Monster!
That sounds like a beastly combo! High MOI and low-spin bombs!
Stuck between the Mizuno ST-MAX and the Ping G430 MAX 10k. Would love to see you compare them.
Hoping to have a Max 10K in-hand soon and will try to get this done!
What are you gaming currently?
@@TheEquipmentJunkie In NY - so nothing yet this year, but the bag has the Ping G425. Strangely, I’m hearing a lot of people between the Ping 10k and the ST-MAX. A lot more people looking seriously at the ST-MAX than I would have though, either because it seems reasonably priced for the same thing in comparison to the ridiculousness of the others, or because they just flat out think it’s the best driver of the year.
just purchased the ST 230 Max, 15% off for fathers day and already on sale so I ended up getting it for $255
That's a crazy deal Brian!
I think it would be nearly impossible to beat the performance of the 230 Max at that price!
What specs did you end up with?
Great video. Wondering whats your opinion between the STZ 230 and the ST Max? I am stuck between the 2 and currently play the STZ 220 and love it. I am just wondering the ST Max might have too much spin and launch. Thanks
Appreciate the support! 230-Z will definitely be a bit more fade biased vs. the Max in my experience.
You shouldn’t have any issues with getting ST Max launch/spin in the right window as long as you have the room to put it maybe 1-1.5° lower on the loft adapter.
@@TheEquipmentJunkie thanks so much for the help and advice
Need to compare these two drivers with the Ping G430 Max 10K and the PXG Black Ops.
Planning on a G430 Max 10K video here soon, but was planning on a head to head style video.
If you could choose one head to go against the 10K, which would you pick?
Ping G430 Max 10K vs the PXG Black Ops.
Lots of videos comparing the Ping G430 10K with the TM Qi10 Max already on RUclips. Mizuno woods don’t sell in the numbers that their irons and wedges do, which is why retailers don’t stock it. Which makes it hard to find at retail
I currently game the STX 230 Driver love it, would you say the Max is way more forgiving looks as though it just wants to go straight, really impressive
Tough to say as I actually found the STX to be one of the most forgiving drivers in 2023.
Things to note would be the X is a bit deeper in terms of face depth, has a bit more heel weight vs. back weight.
So if you struggle with an over-draw the Max could definitely be worth testing or if you prefer a shallower face depth.
How did you end up spec’ing out your STX?
@@TheEquipmentJunkie I had the 10.5 loft dropped it down to 9.5 with the 60 s Kai’Li shaft at the standard 45” length, I do find the 45” shaft so much more accurate without loosing any distance though
I currently play the Mizuno STG 220 driver and looking to upgrade and looking at the Qi10 and the Mizuno 230 Max. Which is the best?
Both are great, but it think if you are liking the Mizuno you'd be hard pressed to be disappointed upgrading to the new 230!
how do we get those numbers each shot on the screen? that would be dope
100% with you on this Randy!
As the channel continues to grow, I am working hard to push production value higher!
Your comments and support mean a lot!!
I think Chris Voshall said the mizuno is around 9300moi in another video I watched.
Good catch!
I have the Mizuno ST 230 Max it is the best driver I have ever played, I am 68 and I’m getting some of the best numbers ever . I have been a low single figure player for 40 years and I still am, it has given me my distance back off the tee and consistency in dispersion that I have never know before, driver has always been my Achilles Heel. I am averaging 285 yards total with gusts up to 320 + yards. Mizuno Woods are now the most underrated woods on the market now!
Love to hear that David! I agree, Mizuno woods are crazy underrated and I think in the next 5-10 years or so they really may be a market leader.
How did you spec out your ST 230 Max?
@@TheEquipmentJunkie I had a full bag fitting May last year in Bonn Germany by my friend Sinjin McNab. I tried the ST 230Z and ST 230X I preferred the X model we used the Mizuno shaft optimizer for shaft selection. When the ST 230 Max was released it was built to my spec, however using my club builder here in Spain we found it was only D 0 swing weight so we increased the swing weight to D 4 by adding weight to the shaft tip, also spline aligned the shaft to my adapter setting and aligned it with a touch of draw bias and now it just goes straight. I do have the occasional miss Q but the consistency is amazing.
Love it!
What gains did you see in the ST-230 Max over the X?
@@TheEquipmentJunkie
A little update!! I recently paid a visit to my club maker / builder here in Spain, although I was getting good numbers with my new max driver I had occasional dispersion issues. We checked the swing weight and found it to be very light D 0 so we added some weight to the shaft tip to increase the swing weight to D 5, we also Spline Aligned the shaft and set it with a slight draw bias. Two things I can feel the club at the top of my backswing better now the increased weight especially in the shaft tip helps to stabilise the shaft and gives me a high straight flight that with a little swing direction change I can add a little draw or fade bias. My dispersion is much tighter and it is now almost like cheating it goes so straight. This club will be in my bag for a long long time I think!
Please review Bryson driver , krank . They are amazing and at 399 it’s a deal
I am hoping to get a Krank head in-hand over the summer to test/review.
What driver would you like to see it up against? I'm thinking the Qi10 LS.
That would be a good start !!!
I have just received a krank driver 9 degree with Fujikura speeder tour light stiff shaft !!! I have not hit it but will be on the course tomorrow trying it out !! Will get back to you !! It feels and looks incredible !! Took three weeks almost 4 to get it
mizuno is 300$ right i dont know if i should iget it. im a new golfer. i just started a month about and been using a iron 5. about to go to my 2nd lesson soon. yall is okay it get because its a crazy deal right now
At the current pricing it's one of the best deals on the market currently IMO!
I may do a video focused around budget drivers in the future, is this something you'd like to see? If so, which models should I include?
@@TheEquipmentJunkie yes please that information would be very useful as I just started as a new player !
I just had to slow the speed down on this video :)
Do you like the st x/ st z?
I love the ST-X/Z!
In fact I reviewed them a while back here: ruclips.net/video/GEc9K7vdMc8/видео.htmlsi=blu4IMp66m77YVnk
@@TheEquipmentJunkie awesome just checked them out! Great video
Mizuno all the way for Percy and looks 👍
But PULLEAZE, talk a bit slowwwwer, you sound like a cassette player on fast forward lol. Holy cow. Otherwise I hit every third word in and figured it out .
My gamer is a PXG gen 6 xf & I just recently got a ST-X 230 & I've noticed @ 3 mph ball speed with way less spin. My pxg i averaged 172 ball speed (175 highest) ST-X 230 I was averaging 175 & topping out @ 178/179 so Mizuno has a great product on the rise!! Go MIZUNO
ST-X is such a great head and imo doesn't get the respect it deserves!
Did you have a chance to test the new PXG Black Ops drivers against your Gen 6?