The “Staircase”: Did Michael Peterson Kill Kathleen Hunt?
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Michael Peterson. Drew Peterson. Scott Peterson. Y'all better stay away from the Peterson's.
Praying for Jordan Peterson’s family 🙏 /s
Omg I literally just said that to myself lol
I was thinking this exactly omg
I was thinking the same thing!!
@Axe 🤣🤣🤣🤣omg
"they were the perfect couple". you'll literally hear this sentence in every true crime show/ video
or "the perfect family", "the perfect friendship"
good that me and my boyfriend are not a perfect couple lmaoo, you're right, every true crime show u can hear that
Yes! Also, “She lit up the room “
"Until they weren't"
Its always that way, perfect marriage, perfect cover- up for murder...its a who done it case
I watched the whole Netflix documentary. I did not find him charming, nor did I feel sorry for him. I found every atom of that man repulsive.
Same!!!
I completely agree… I felt so uncomfortable when he was on screen. His mannerisms and way of speaking were just bizarre and unpleasant.
Exactly!
Me too
And such a phony. C’mon, the freakin’ pipe like he’s Douglas McArthur. Such a douchebag.
the disgusting part is that he always wanted a story and he finally got the story, and it cost Kathleen her life.
Something similar happened with William S. Burroughs. A talentless, closeted hack who murdered his wife and basically achieved fame through her.
Such an Bull shit! He did NOT kill his wife. Wish him Best ❤️🫶🏻
I never thought about that your absolutely right
people say they were in love blah blah blah… but married women are the most murdered women in the US… is it hard to believe that a husband could do that??
But..the kids never spoke out and said “my dad is abusive. My dad hit us..my dad yelled etc” they loved this man. They said he wasn’t a violent man. Just my thoughts.
@@Emily-ew6um no, children don’t see everything behind the scenes always also theres no way two women in his life have passed away due to the same injuries from falling down the staircase with same blood spatter and similar setting concluding that you don’t have to be actually abusive to commit such crime
@@jules-gf8tc hm I guess that’s true
@@Emily-ew6um there doesn't need to be abuse before someone murders
@Katie A watch the show.
The guy has 2 women in his life meet untimely “accidental” deaths? Suspish
1 wife, 1 family friend
1 wife, 1 mistress.
*Suspicious
That's how it is spelled.
@@cellblocknine5385 whoosh
Super suspish.
You did more in this hour than the doc did in 13 hours. Ty ❤
If only we could find a lawyer
with expertise in bird law to make sense of this…
This guy gets it
THIS is the best comment I have ever read. Got damn 🤣🤣
😂😂😂
Apparently the local Owl did it😂😂😂😂😂
Michael: ”I cant stop crying”
Also Michael: Isnt crying.
Did you listen to his 911 call? He was genuinely distraught. Speaking from experience, you get to a point where you run out of tears.
@@katekilgannon3567 I did and I don't think he was crying then either
@@katekilgannon3567 no he wasn’t genuinely distraught, but he’s a great actor so I understand why some people think that.
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
All words. It was all talk and no emotion like he was reading from his stupid little script.
Anytime I hear 'perfect couple' 'soul mates' etc alarm bells ring
It does seem like a lot of this stuff happens to "perfect" families.
Usually when people try hard to keep up a certain “image” the image is no where close to the actual reality. Couples that are usually upfront with their high and lows usually have a image that is similar to their reality.
I hate when people say that about my partner and i because we are not the way people assume we are privately like in public. Maybe they acted well around people but weren’t always so happy together alone
anyone that calls themselves perfect or gets called that by people are always suspicious. no one/no family is ever perfect. all a "perfect family" is, is a family that hides everything and cares too much about how they appear to others. its especially suspicious if the immediate family even says theyre perfect, like whats going on that their family doesn't even know about their problems
it’s still mind blowing to me that this whole accident during 01’ was filmed like they knew it was going to be a documentary. like they’re lives were filmed. i didn’t see any grieving or finding justice for the mother. so sad.
They’re not looking for “Justice for the mother” because their version is it was an accident
Their lives*
I sure learned a lot about Michael Peterson but not a lot about how much of a bold-faced liar he is. He wasn’t a war hero. Made it up.
Not to mention, they forced them to not use ANY vital damning evidence against Michael to be used.
Can you believe saying -- "I didnt murder my wife, but an Owl did it."??
That's what I thought he never seemed upset or rued over Kaths death
This entire case was a mess, but I lost it when they brought in the owl 😭😭😭😭
Why are they not focusing on the son who was there for everything but refused to talk to the police???
He wasn’t there. He showed up after being out with a friend.
What I don't get is how you are allowed to refuse to talk to the police! Issue a warrant for his arrest and being him in for questioning! I don't understand.
That’s not the weirdest part. Every side hired their own expert to work against each other regarding some topics that show no room for speculation. Experts acted strange and slightly emotional, answered questions outside their specialty. Son suddenly found a key evidence but doesn’t call the police to investigate? It’s against the law especially after finding a potential murder weapon, you’re required to call the police, no photographer or personal investigator needed. We received information that Elizabeth was in fact murdered by blunt force but no separate investigation was made. What’s with the sisters digging up old stories and, what’s that all about? Sexual orientation? What’s going on with the daughters? Are they inside a cult or is that just how rich families operate? How come no one seems to care about the mothers death, they seem to be fine thinking that she fell and that’s that, end of the story no alternative. Since I’m an emotional creature I do have the strong feeling that he is guilty, but after watching the series I don’t see how he got evicted. There was no motive. No weapon. No witnesses. There’s only the body, the blood and Liz death in Germany which he’s not guilty of though. That’s just not enough to proof that you can say for sure. Just sketchy stuff. I didn’t enjoy the series, strange camera povs and lots of strange people. I belobe they’re all from a different dimension than me
They didn't use the owl in the defense. They didn't even think of it! But if you actually research the full theory, it fits the evidence the most!
She was attacked in the front yard. A blood trail was found from the front to the stairs. She then fainted. They also said that their were feathers in her hand. The defense attorney assumed it was from a pillow, but didn't think it was important. It also matches the head wounds. Lacerations without skull fractures. This doesn't happen in a beating to the head.
@@truthtransistorradio6716 Absolutely no way there would be THAT much blood on the WALLS of the stairway unless she was beaten there. The autopsy showed signs of a beating. And owls don't decide to attack people out of the blue if ever. It was in the early hours of the morning. No way, Kathleen was outside bothering an owl at that time of night. She likely confronted Michael at the pool about what she'd just seen on his computer and threatened divorce. He likely became enraged and started attacking her. No doubt, she ran, trying to get to the house to lock the door.
i hate how there was a whole 11 hour documentary and this is the first time i’ve learnt anything about who kathleen actually was
I was thinking the same thing
Genuinely the entire reason I watch her content. Pretty much every other "true crime" youtuber makes me feel gross with the way they present the information
Keep in mind that dear Michael was having an affair with one of the makers of the documentary. I have always thought he was guilty. The owl narrative is also ridiculous.
Same
@@AleisterCrowleyMagus where did you get that info? About lover from film crew?
I have eleven hours, but I’d much rather listen to Kendall explain it.
Same
same
Literally why i’m here omg
Agreed
Completely agree.
At no point in the documentary does he seek justice for his wife. He doesn't seem to want to know what happened to her...because he knew exactly what happened. Anyone else would be seeking the truth. Also his hold over his adopted daughters is almost cult like
I believe he's guilty but how would he seek justice? His stance is that her death was an accident.
@@guillotined in the documentary he does say it could have been an intruder which is what made me think this
Remember he adopted those girls. Their allegiance will be to him. He adopted them when he wasn't with Kathleen yet.
@@GorillaGirl79 yes but when they found out hiw their mom died, they never questioned him which is strange. Imo
Because he is first of all focused on getting him self out and THEN he can seek the true answers..,.
Why is everyone saying they were “Torn” by this case ? Almost Nothing that micheal said really even added up plus she was the bread winner of the family he also was having an affair and had a similar situation happened like this a few years back.
Right?! He definitely did it!!
The documentary seemed to be 11 hours of him wandering around in his kitchen drinking wine…. Just needed to add that part
Yeah and 758 hours of Duane Deaver being a corrupt liar with a poor sense of due diligence, who has no scientific process to acquiring evidence or ensuring it is of a reasonable standard before contributing to someone being locked away for something they didn't do... more than once.
I noticed this too! & He's making stories, no emotion. There's no way I'd be able to stay in the home and relive this if my husband fell and died.
He was DATING the woman who edited the documentary!! That's why so much wine and such a kid glove portrayal of M. Peterson.
Sounds like my kind of guy..... except for the murder part.
@@lisah9709 oh wow 😳
Defense: an owl did it
Peterson: who
Defense: ….
An owl....
Peterson:WHOOOOOO
Let the parrot take the stand!
😂😂😂it's not funny but this is a good one..
Ffs this needs more likes
Lmao nice one
You hear about this lady who died when she fell down the stairs and think ok that's a sad thing to happen, but then when you find out about the extent of her injuries you go 'something's not right here'
There are some actual proven staircase falls that ended in insane injuries. There was a 93-year-old woman in Scotland who fell off a chairlift and the and her injuries were so bad doctors thought she had been attacked with a machete. Her name was Catherine Scullion if you want to look it up, there is a photo of the scene with a lot of blood on the ground where she was found.
@@justanotherjessica You can't compare a 93 year old woman with a middle-aged woman. Old people die from fall injuries all the time.
@@lilycha9398he is comparing the nature of the wounds created by a fall.
Why does no one ever suspect that the stairs were the weapon, 2 examples: they are arguing, he walks up the stairs she follows, he turns and pushes her, she falls backwards hits her head. He then comes down steps over her, foot print explained, then continues to hit her head repeatedly againt the step. Or they are arguing at the bottom of the stairs, in the hallway he pushes her, again she falls backwards hits her head and then he repeatedly hits her head against the stairs or wall. Wood explains blunt force trauma without fracture. Why does there have to be a hand held weapon? If someone grabs your head and begins hitting it against a stair, may also explain clump of her hair in her hand, trying to get him to let go, grabbing at the hand on your head, and pulling out a clump of hair. Lots of ways the the stairs could be the 'weapon'. Owl feathers: picked up from resting your head on an out door pool lounger, as well as the twig.
Repeated blunt force trauma by the stairs would more likely to cause fractures than lacerations. In fact, wooden stairs doesn't explain lacerations at all. It needs to have a realy sharp edge and stairs usually don't
He’s definitely not the victim. People have this whole documentary backwards. If anyone is a victim it’s these women who died the exact same way.
Exactly. Something is sus.
I heard he wanted the documentary made and had control of the narrative.
They weren't killed the same way.
Your right he so suspicious to me that he saying it wasn't he fault
He divorced his first wife. She just recently died at 78 from a heart attack. The family friend died from a rare disorder and he adopted her daughters.
Note to self: Don't date a Peterson....EVER!!!!!
THIS
I think he killed her BUT I don’t think he had a fair trial or that the prosecution proved beyond reasonable doubt he did it. Regardless-the way he comes across, the initial 911 calls-it’s like bad acting. This is a guy who was in Nam and had seen much worse. Why didn’t he give her CPR or mouth to mouth-he’d been trained in it? Why was the blood dry? He killed her earlier in the evening probably after an argument and then later called it in.
I've always said it was like bad acting. I think he attacked her & waited for her to die
He didn’t see battle in Nam. He made all that up.
he didnt kill her earlier in the evening as she was still alive after she supposedly fell
Owl theory: She was hit with a sturdy branch. They found fragments of wood and microscopic owl feather (micoroscopic owl feathers could easily have been on the branch since Owls perch on branches. If you think of the shape of branches, they are irregular and can have a trident formation. I believe he hit her with a heavy branch (something that could easily be disposed of; hid initially and then disposed of via burning or even just driving a distance and disposing of it). Because she had neck injuries that show great pressure to the neck - something an owl could NOT possibly do, the fact that there was another staircase death with him involved. To me says not an owl. If she was attached by an owl wouldn’t she have tried to call for Micheal while it was happening and while she was outside - I’de be screaming bloody murder! And the a fact that it was 50 degrees and he still was sitting outside smoking a pipe at 2 in the morning in shorts and a T-shirt. So many other pieces of evidence rule out that she was attacked by an owl. It doesn’t make sense. Also, sound carries an enormous distance at that time if night/morning, he would or should have heard something. I can’t believe she would have been silent during the attack and then just went inside without calling out to him.
Woah this makes so much sense 😳🤯
Regarding the neck injury, she did have a known neck injury just months before her death. I think including this in the case is so odd because her neck would definitely still be healing.
She had a known neck injury already though so this was likely from that.
@@PlusSe7en According to the new TV series, she drunkingly dived into a pool at a party.... on her own volition.
@@mcds54 yeah exactly
It can’t be some sick coincidence that two women in his life died the SAME way.......
Right... and it's not like a common death. If they both died of cancer or heart attack, I'd think coincidence and probably have sympathy for the spouse.
This is exactly what I thought of when they started talking about the owl theory. They said the wounds on the two women's heads looked similar. Did an owl get BOTH of them??? I doubt it.
lol Reminds me of "The Jinx" where the guy insists that all these people that are connected to him that just end up dead are definitely not his fault and it's just coincidence! ...until he confesses to murdering them.
It was not the same way. One had a medical condition, and in effect had a stroke. Her bleeding was internal.
They just happened to be located at a similar spot in their houses. Coincidences do happen, we as stupid humans think they mean something, when in fact it's just random.
@@mrs.elentz2336 They didn't die of the same thing. One died of a medical illness - essentially a stroke. One died of either a fall or attack by an owl or other.
Never date anyone named Peterson. Drew, Scott, Michael....
lmao that was my first thought too
Lmfaoooo
OMG Yes 😃
Or Chris...!!! Chris Watts, Chris Coleman, Chris Longo
Lot of evil Stevens too
side note.. I love how your dog is always in the back, relaxed, and listening. I fall asleep to your voice, so soothing .
I grew up in Durham,NC and remember when I was a kid this case was everywhere. I didn't really understand the hoopla bc I was like seven or eight. Once I got older and understood the story it was always so eerie to drive by the Peterson's mansion
So basically there's a German owl following him that kills every woman close to him?
Yes, happened to me 😤
@@danielgongora8991 🤭🤭🤭
It’s true. I’m the owl.
Alternatively, he owns a trained owl that he releases on women who cross him
@@nikitaamien404 omg you're on something 🤭🤭🤭
He´s so guilty. He only seems to care about proving his own innocence. Doesnt seem to care about his dead wife at all!
exactly, like when he was released and said “it’s the hardest thing I’VE ever been through”
Wow! So if the police are accusing you of killing a person shouldn't you try to prove your innocence?
The comments in this video are full of hatred towards him, because yes, he is very unpleasant, but being an unpleasant person does not take away your human rights. If so, 90% of RUclips users should have no rights at all.
@@LullaGvz there’s nothing wrong with him trying to prove his innocence, its the fact that’s the ONLY thing he cares about.
No such thing as bad publicity as they say in the press 🙄
I understand all your view points. Maybe his lack of trying to prove innocence should of been a point the prosecution should of followed? Seems like a missed opportunity. I agree that not being a nice person doesn't make you guilty.
Currently watching the HBO dramatization of this. I was iffy of Michael when the Netflix doc came out. Kendalls vid comes out and then I’m convinced he’s guilty. Now the HBO dramatization of it came out I’m 1000% certain Michael did it (it’s pretty obvious from the beginning) . I can’t believe he’s a free man now.
He's free because the prosecution shot for too high of a charge and faked evidence (primarily Duane Deaver's testimony but there were other hinky things) to win. They should have gone for a lesser murder charge or voluntary manslaughter. Then they wouldn't have needed Deaver's faked evidence and Michael Peterson would still be in prison.
He killed her as she was going upstairs because this is when he would have lost ultimate control, based on what they fought about a few mins. before.
This was such an open and close case. There's no way all that damage happened in a fall. Once head trauma occurs with a broken neck, the body goes limp, it does NOT bounce around like a pinball.
Still have to prove that someone actually did it with good evidence not just circumstantial
The fingerprints on the wine glass is such a glaring error in his story... how did he explain that?
I think it is so sweet to see your pets lay there on the chair while you tell your true crime stories. The must find your voice comforting and of course be with Mommy
this is a really cute comment lol
“There goes mommy again talking for hours to herself” is what I image goes through their heads 😂
I love Kendall's soothing voice as well, Valerie.
Your voice, the cadence with which you speak while you document it all must be so sweet to your dog that he is sleeping all the way until the end.
Its absolutely unreal that they let him out after 2 women died the same way....this is absolutely insane and sickening....so sad for the victims families 😢
The thing about this story that always astounded me is that the investigators and blood spatter analyst could never conceive of any other way for him to have injured his wife than using an instrument to beat her with, and the spatter evidence did not support that hypothesis. However, it is clear she died of blunt force head trauma. This was done by him grabbing her by her hair and beating her head on the stairs and landing. He did beat her to death. He just didn't use any blunt instrument. He just grabbed her head and beat it into the stairs. If you put that puzzle piece into the narrative, it all suddenly makes sense how he did it, and why there was no weapon. Can't believe the investigators never even conceived of this scenario, in any analyses or documentary I've watched about this case.
They did consider this. The problem was there was no skull fractures, brain bleeding, edema, etc. Rudolf literally pulled out over 250 cases where there was a beating death and ALL had some form of skull fracture.
If Michael had done this in the way you said, he would have fractured her skull somewhere. The stairs are too solid for them not to. Her only injuries were lacerations to the skull. That's why they needed something somewhat solid yet HOLLOW to inflict the injuries.. . Hence, the blowpoke.
How do you beat someone to death over the head using ANYTHING and NOT fracture their skull?
I think he just let her bleed out.
Or... it was a HOOdunnit....
You'll make it.
They needed "Dexter" to explain the blood spatter! I think it is possible he broke her hyoid while holding her neck and later her hair to bang her head against the stairs, maybe just scraping the stair above to cause the lacerations. Even if skull fracture is typical in such cases, he could have banged her head with less force because he was in a rage and was just trying to "make her shut up".
case closed. Chars cracked it everyone! lol gtfo
Not even remotely possible considering the total lack of brain/skull injury
I was just thinking "awww man I have nothing to watch!" Kendall you have saved me from the boredom of my own company 💜 x x
Same!
Oh wow you have your own company? So lucky. What is your company about?
I said the same thing! I got time 2 watch a 12 part miniseries on Netflix. I love Netflix
Try That Chapter presented by Michael Oh. Everyone I know who likes Kendall's vids ends up being into Mike's vids, too.
@@cellblocknine5385 not a company owned by me, I meant being by myself alone with nothing to watch 😂😂
I’ve watched the entire Netflix documentary, I’ve listened to the Mile Higher podcast episode, and I’ve stayed up to date on following this case…but I still clicked so fast on this video JUST to hear what Kendall has to say
i’m glad you mentioned that they did a podcast bc i was like .. i swear she’s done a video on it before LOL but i just listened to the episode before haha
@@hannabarnett8334 I feel this! obviously, the blessing is that we have twice the content/depth of discussion from kendall’s channel and kendall’s/ josh’s podcast, but the curse is that I can never remember where I heard specific information about certain cases😅
Sameee!
Yes! Same here lol x
I thought I was the only one who’s been obsessed with this case 😂!!
The thing about the blow poke is that it wasn’t there during the search, but magically shows up during trial.
The murder weapon blow poke could easily have been disposed of, and then another purchased at an antique store (they’re pretty common finds where I live, at least) and then the “decoy” blow poke was presented as evidence. There’s nothing proving it’s the same blow poke.
I thought it was said that these were specifically made for the families by Kathleen's sister Margaret. She had 4 made. So maybe there are lots of similar ones, but these 4 were unique?!
@@beckywalkwe5572 I never hear it was made I thought it was just bought
Pretty sure it was said the blow pokes were custom made
The investigators apparently did find it during the search, watch the last episode of the doc
Blowpokes are made of brass which is a very hard metal. A blowpoke would not make marks on a scalp that look like the talons of a bardowl and would likely cause a skull fracture. If the autopsy photos are accrate then the theory of a blowpoke is out.
After watching the dramatized and non censored depiction of her death (on HBO MAX) where michael throws hers her downwards and beats her head up against the stairs and chokes her- it it is in my opinion 100% how that took place.
lol i just mentioned it in another comment but yeah i think that's the most plausible version. i don't think it was premeditated but it was a result of a fight and he let her die
Me too! That is because it made sense.
Yes but how the owl feather get into her hair? U are saying michael plant the owl feather as distraction?
@@blob2092 if they were sitting outside owl feather and twig could have been from lawn furniture or even debris off the steps from someone’s shoes tracking it in. Also owl feathers in some cases are used in pillow stuffing for down pillows.
@@lisacravens8326 Yea, didnt think qbout that, it sound plausible
As miss Taylor Swift would say “I think he did it but I just can’t prove it”
"no, there aint no doubt. Somebody gotta catch him out"
Curious. There is a body so there should be a crime.
But I ain’t lettin up until the day I die 🤌🏻
LOVE THIS COMMENT
Just a thought…Kathleen herself could have been the one to print out the messages between Michael and the escort.. i think that would be a reasonable thing to do if you find out you’re being cheated on..print out the evidence to confront your partner, or even print them out and put them in his desk so he could find them himself.. idk.. so many variables🤦🏻♀️🦉
I think this is more likely than him printing them out himself.
This is so smart. He probably threw them in the drawer after killing her so the police wouldn’t come across it. Girl you need to go to law school !
Agree, back then printing "receipts" was the thing.
My parents still have random emails printed from back then.. those were the screenshots.
Yes that’s what I thought too I don’t know why they thought he printed them
Lol, yes! Been there and printed them off lol.
Crime Weekly podcast did a deep dive on this & there’s tons of details that make it so hard to come to a conclusion on this one.
Prosecutors were shady af in this trial.
The blow poke was actually found before & was even photographed, it was in the prosecutor’s file after…but they didn’t make that public 😒
I don’t believe in the owl theory I feel like since she was outside the owl feathers/twig in her hair were just because she was spending time out. If you think about it if it was the owl attacking her it would have left a lot more feathers behind that aren’t microscopic.
Exactly!!
How the hell does someone get microscopic owl feathers under their nails just from sitting by the pool?
Not if she was running/ thrashing around trying to escape.
@@starrstarrstarr the feathers were in her hair. She could have gotten them from just walking around and the wind blowing them in. Maybe she fell outside first and got them and the wood stuck in her hair then. Also, how do you explain no other feathers at the scene? There would be feathers outside. More feathers in her hair not just microscopic.
@@rubylightshow1585 there would still be other feathers. At least more microscopic ones.
That Owl Theory wouldve been a hoot in court...I'll see myself out😂😂😂
You scoundrel!
I appreciate your pun lol
Lol that’s awesome
Ba dum tss !
Naw, go ahead and stay, it’s most welcome.
I know this case well. What I can never get past is that statistically speaking 1 man having 2 women in his life meet an untimely end in nearly the exact same way is improbable. Plus he had a secret double life which I remember being very scandalous as the trial was going on. Besides the owl theory is very very unlikely.
The owl theory sounds too crazy 🦉
I have a theory that his first wife did die in a tragic accident but the second was almost replicated, like he was stuck on that first death and either had the idea to make it look similar as it looked accidental OR he simply pushed the first one, the second one but she didn't die right away so he had to finish her off with the weapon.
In all honesty I really think the owl theory is true. If you think about it, she had a clump of her hair in her hands, pulled from the root. If an owl was attacking your head, you would do anything you could to get it off, if you felt something you thought was the owl you would yank it as hard as you could. This explains why she had her hair in her hand, if he was attacking her with that stick then she wouldn't pull at her head, she would try defending it. Also, the owl feathers and branch in her hair is literally inexpiable, owl feathers in your hair would make sense if an owl was attacking your head.
Also, you can say it's a coincidence that both his wives died the same way but for one isn't it a coincidence that her head markings matched an owls? Also this would also make it different than his first wife, people's spouses dying like this is very rare but it still happens. And owl attacks are rare but that doesn't mean they don't happen. His timing was off by an hour but honestly recalling time can be hard for some people and there's the whole thing of why didn't he hear her screaming but if I'm not wrong his daughters were in that house and didn't hear any either. It's a common misconception that EVERYONE would scream while being attacked as some people could be so scared they lose their ability to do so. I understand that the owl theory is a stretch but the owl feathers and clump of hair are damning.
@@NobodyUndefined Or, as someone commented elsewhere, the feathers could have been tracked inside on people's shoes and been on the floor where she hit her head/whatever implement she was hit with. That would explain both the microscopic owl feathers and wood tracings. It's at least as plausible as an owl attack that only left microscopic evidence.
@@NobodyUndefined I have always believed the owl theory even though I know it’s an unpopular opinion.
It's easy to believe he did it, but my wife was attacked by an owl in Atlanta many years ago She ended up needing 32 stitches in her head. Once I found the owl theory I was shook cause the wounds looked like my wife head.
I’m sorry but the owl just didn’t do this in this case!
I was attacked by an owl once but my wounds weren't even close to Kathleen's wounds. Not close.
@@molly5292 I don't have any feelings one way or another about the owl theory, but the wounds from one attack vs. another attack by the same type of animal can be different in severity. Not to mention different species of owls and how aggressive they might be, or even aggression levels within the same species. I've seen some pics online of people's wounds after owl attacks and they can be incredibly terrible.
That said, it's a reach in this case, and usually the more simple explanation is the more likely, i.e. the husband did it.
The owl crap is bullshit
If that's the case there would've surely been feathers.. right? Or some kind of animal presence even if small.
I have stayed on top of this case it's the beginning. Watching many documentaries and your coverage with absolutely perfect!!
Two women connected to this man died in almost the exact same way and he was the last person to see both of them... If there's a pattern, believe it.
Proof > pattern
The prosecution simply fucked up the case so bad that they forced themselves to let him go free. Guilty or not he is now free and forever will be
You can always fabricate evidence that someone is guilty, you can hardly produce evidence of innocence if the police want you to be guilty.
Michael is a narcissist, but as far as I understand, that is not synonymous with murderer. The main problem is that he is a very unpleasant person, therefore everyone is inclined to think that is guilty.
Suddenly, it turns out that Michael is a mastermind capable of manipulating the German army, but he is not capable of inventing a new way to assassinate someone? How weird isn't it?
@@LullaGvz I actually think that Elizabeth’s death could have been an accident for real and he got inspired how it was ruled as accidental. To me that makes the most sense.
His first wife died in 2021 and he was with her when she had her heart attack. So it is 3 women now.
I'd like to see a statistician calculate the odds of being on the scene for two different women dying by falling down the stairs with blood everywhere. Or being fatally attacked by an odds. Surely both are miniscule.
How did they do such in-depth testing that they found microscopic pieces of owl feathers and wood…yet they didn’t even test the blow poke? Also when birds are trapped in a home they usually fly up to the ceiling and get trapped…they don’t calmly flying out the front door when they feel like it…
Actually these are legit good points, I have to admit.
Yeah this owl just Just came in the house attacked her left no feathers on the floor or attacked her outside he could’ve heard her scream there should’ve been blood outside it’s just too much I can’t
I wonder if there were any products in the house that used owl feathers. Dusters, pillows, etc. There is just so much more evidence to his guilt than to unlikely outlandish theories.
@@SashaAMelina yeah if it had even started outside, wouldn’t he have heard her scream? Usually you freak out good when something from above and out of no where starts attacking you.
@@amberbrophy4683 exactly and the death before both the same … common people 😆 not an owl ppl are evil even your fam
80% of me thinks that Michael is guilty, but there's like a 20% that really wants to believe the owl theory
"I have whispered her name in my heart, a thousand times." I HATE THIS GUY. He has a bad case of main character syndrome.
If an owl that size was in their house, everything would have been knocked over. Their wingspan in HUGE.
I think they thought it happened outside
Lol 😝
How was there ONLY microscopic evidence of A N Y animal attack with fur or feathers this is unlikely.
Birds only extend to the max when flying, hovering etc. If a a bird is attacking they won't have their wings completely extended. In a house they won't be able to fly keeping their wings straight either, because there isn't a sufficient draft.
Just check a falcon or owl catching prey or how they do to eat meats or carcass. Or check any video of birds attacking.
If they get tangled in the hair they can't fly as easy
@@faithl2067 well yes but why was there microscopic evidence at all! Is this a thing that happens? Owl feathers just get in your hair in North Carolina?
I trained owls, I’ve been the victim of a grumpy owl and they cause serious damage. An owl attack would cause such a commotion she would be screaming and it’s a 1 in a million series of events.
It’s a 1 in a million series of events but it’s still possible, you have to be dead sure without a shadow of a doubt that someone has committed that crime before you lash them in prison and throw away the key. I just don’t think there was enough evidence for or against, so I’m still very undecided on if he did it or not
"A grumpy owl", awww.. that made me smile. It's evident you love them, and loved training them. Very sweet💗
I have a genuine question for you then! If you are attacked by such a large bird and presumably scramble to get it off, would there not be a ton of big feathers and down left after the attack? Both at the scene and for example in the hair of the attacked person?
@@catrine982 that's what i've been saying!! how are there MICROSCOPIC owl feathers on her hair but not actual feathers around her...
Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t wild owls go to escape first when confronted with a larger animal like a human? Like wouldn’t it’s first instinct be to flee? I guess it would peck or scratch u if it was thrashing but wouldn’t it fly away first?
This is so great, I have gone deep into this, a bit obsessed really and know it inside out, just as you have! Really great to hear someone know all the facts and talk about all the different possible scenarios, well done.
I remember seeing the owl theory and the fact that their was a feather found in her hair, which makes it hard to deny that as a possibility. Especially after looking at the comments and seeing someone say their wife had similar injuries after getting attacked by an owl.
And like. How else would she have had owl feathers anywhere near her
I just don’t buy the owl theory. You’re telling me an owl broke into their house, murdered a women, and somehow escaped without any sign of it ever being their. Seems like a bit of stretch.
I believe the theory is the owl swooped down and grabbed her thinking she was prey while outside the home then she ran inside to escape. I think he killed her but owls are sons of bitches and can do some damage. Lost one of my sweet free range chickens to one a few days ago. The only bright white one of the bunch so she was easiest to see in the dark..... swooped right down and grabbed her and flew off without leaving a trace. A woman’s hair could easily be mistaken as the fur of prey to an owl, especially at night. The other murder being connected to him is what makes that theory unbelievable to me.
the theory says it attacked her outside and she ran inside to escape from it
Even if she was attacked outside, it still doesn’t explain the amount of blood at the scene. Considering the evidence the theory seems random to me. Owls can be aggressive but in this instance it seems very unlikely that an owl had anything to do with it.
If she was attacked and made it inside, she would have tried to get him to help her , don’t buy it at all
@@springsogourne i believe he was still outside though. I believe they think she got attacked on the way in and then ran inside afterwards. Maybe she was trying to run to the bathroom to clean herself up and see how bad her injuries were in the mirror. So thats why she was going upstairs. But yea i think he did it too.
Those poor girls... imagine realizing you've most likely been adopted by your mother's killer and then he goes off and kills the only other mother figure you have in almost the exact same way.
Fffffffff
That's why they're in such denial. It's too much to come to terms with. So sad.
They never shed a tear for Kathleen, or show any kind of sadness for her. They are freakishly loyal to Michael.
@@amynoosun3703 woahh
@@amynoosun3703 as a daughter of narcissist father it's sad but makes sense to me. They may be scared to oppose him or most likely, they're trauma bonded so deeply that they see his true self.
That dog is thinking "I know she sees me trying to sleep" lol
Just discovered ur channel a couple days ago and gotta say I love your story telling method !
There is NO WAY that much blood is caused from a fall down the stairs. Nope, not believing it.
Exactly like wtffff
The blood came from wounds on her head. And yes, wounds on the scalp can cause insane amounts of blood loss.
I don't think she fell down the stairs, but I disagree. I lost so much blood from a VERY minor head injury that I fainted. There was so much blood...I can't even explain it. The head injuries she had are gonna make you bleed A LOT. Again, I don't think she fell down the stairs, but i could see that much blood from that situation.
UP the stairs - even less likely
You can't say there's no way. If you hit your head or different parts of your body in the right way you will cause a massive amount of bleeding. Is it more likely to be something else probably but you can't just discount staircase because you don't want to believe it's possible to cause that much damage. Trust me falls down the stairs don't look like they do in the movies.
I watched a friend at a party almost die once when a deck railing broke and he fell 15 feet onto rocks/concrete right on the back of his neck (had to wear a metal spine support device for like 2 years) and there was NOT EVEN CLOSE to this amount of blood.
This is just sick. This was no damn accident
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I was about to say!!! When I was in 5th grade my parents were doing the annual cleaning of the outside of our house and it’s 2 stories and the wooden ladder broke from under my mom and she fell from the 2nd story. She broke a large clay planter pot with her head and I remember when my dad ran inside to call 911 and I went outside to see what happened my mom was laying still but there was so puddle of blood no large gashes that needed sutures just permanent internal injuries and such like 6 herniated discs in her thoracic and a bad concussion. She has to undergo a procedure yearly to get injections on her spine but there was no puddle of blood like you’d assume there would be .... and she broke a clay planter and hit the concrete driveway . A similar thing happened to our neighbor up the road who unfortunately passed away but there wasn’t a large puddle of external blood ... she died of internal brain bleeding when her head hit the concrete. I’ve always thought this case was suspicious it’s sickening but also very clear she did not just die from a fall down the stairs - it’s possible to die but there wouldn’t be that much blood
My dad fell head first down unfinished stairs this last summer. About 22 narrow stairs, with sharp edges and hit his head on the bottom doorframe at the end of the stairs. Similar layout to this. He was in a coma for 4 days and the internal bleeding made his head swell up unimaginable. He broke his nose and arm, and yet there were only two small drips of blood from his nose. He survived and is doing well but is a little funnier. The fact that was so traumatic and yet there was almost NO blood is bright red flags to how both of these staircase murders looked. How sick that he is free.
I have fallen and cut my head and yes there was a lot of blood but it accumulated over minutes and dripped down. There would have been no splatter if I had fallen in a stairwell because the blood wasn't just suddenly there to be splashed on the walls. The blood would have poured out after she had landed. No possibility of splatter.
I love you Kendal I’ve literally been binge watching your videos bc haven’t kept up with your upload schedule but omg you are incredible. All of this research you do. Brilliant
Just found you...so glad I did! Thank you for this well done presentation .
⬇️ people who think Kendall is THE BEST true crime youtuber
the best youtuber period!!!
Love her!!!!
she is the best
@@rae9922 no. That's your opinion I respect it.
Best of the best period 😊😊
Also, the reason Kathleen divorced her first husband-- he cheated on her. I highly doubt she'd be cool with Michael having other relations... even though he insisted she knew but it was "don't ask, don't tell" type of situation. Think he's a pathological liar, narcissistic, manipulative man....
Omg such a good point
Another weird thing about the cheating is that at the very end of the documentary Micheal alludes to the fact that if he could go back he would have told her the truth.. so he contradicts himself... there is no way she knew!
Lots of people have open marriages after divorcing someone for cheating on them. Cheating is a violation of trust. An open marriage isn’t.
@@thehousespouse No... but many people close to Kathleen said that'd be a dealbreaker for her.
So true. Also did anyone else notice in his press clip that when he said ‘I would never do anything to hurt her’ he was nodding his head? His words say no but his body language is making the ‘yes’ motion.
Great summary of the case, Kendall. As an attorney, I appreciate your excellent use of the facts and circumstances of this puzzling, fascinating case and yes, I do tend to agree with your final assessment of the conclusion. The prosecution screwed up the evidence so guilt beyond a reasonable doubt wouldn't have been possible but the facts add up to 'guilty' and the Alford plea was appropriate.
Kendall, you were one of the first I subscribed to, and I just love your content and the responsibility and carefulness that you approach each case with.
Good Luck with everything you do! You have lots of devoted followers! 💓
Michael’s son flat out says in the documentary that if his dad were to tell him he killed her, he would run over and help him cover it up. Pile that on with the son already being there before paramedics, the blood being dry, the blood smear on Michael’s pants, and the shoe prints, is enough to scream suspicion.
And literally anyone walking into their house late at night and stumbling upon that gruesome scene wouldn’t have automatically assumed that their wife fell down the stairs like Michael did in the 911 call. Show those crime scene photos to anyone without any context and they would say that that person was attacked, not, “oh looks like she fell down those stairs.”
YES! this is what I keep saying! If I found my boyfriend like that absolutely covered in blood with those wounds I would automatically think there was an intruder in the house that had clubbed him to death, not that he’d fallen down a few steps.
The daughters freak me out that they are ok with dad cheating on mom. Saying he was a great husband and that he loved her. Bull crap🤮
I have always felt like the son had something to do with the incident I think they did it together who knows 🤷♀️
The blood was never confirmed dry. Dont you remember how Deaver and many more experts on the case lied and destroyed evidence
And the first Michael says in the 911 call is she had an accident, that’s very specific for someone in shock. If you’re genuinely in shock you just describe what you see and not how it happened
My theory: the printed copies of his messages with the escort could've been printed off by Kathleen. Hear me out. She found out and wanted to confront him so she printed it off and stashed it in his drawers so he'd find it and know that she knows. This would make it so she didn't have to confront him face to face but still kinda confronts him. He finds them and then he was worried that she was going to leave and that would leave him financially unstable. So he either panicked and killed her for the life insurance or he planned it for the life insurance money. Probably attacked her with the fire poker thing which could've easily had wood and owl feathers on it from the fire place/wood pile. Feathers and wood are common there. It makes sense.
(Edit/Updated theory)
Someone pointed out that his actions are theorised to be premeditated because of how similar Elizabeth's and Kathleen's murders were. I agree and that changes my theory slightly.
He could've found the affair conversations she printed out and decided she needed to go for financial reasons mentioned in the video and in my comment. He then most likely looked at Elizabeth's murder as being a template because of how successful he was. He got away with it and hardly anyone questioned it at all. He then couldve planned to kill Kathleen in a similar way because he thought he'd get away with it like he did with Elizabeth. He knew it couldn't be identical so he changed the stories up a little however the way in which he killed the two was quite similar. This indicates that he wanted to recycle the method because it was so successful.
Thank you to the person who pointed out the flaw in my theory.
That’s a very plausible theory actually !
That makes a lot of sense!
Makes sense to me! I was thinking maybe she printed it off so she could confront him with it and he couldn’t try to deny or delete any of the conversations!
I totally agree! The feathers could have come from a wood pile-and that wood pile came from a tree on their property that used to have an owl living/nesting in it. Makes sense to me!
I like this one. 👌 I'm glad you tied in the owl feathers in a plausible way.
I really like how your animals hang out with you on the chair for murder story time :) so wholesome
I can’t take my eyes off of the cute puppy. She looks exactly like my Cockapoo who passed on years ago.🥰
THANK YOU 💕 I was super curious about this case but had no patience to go further the third episode of the Netflix show!
I’m not saying Michael did it...but yea he did it.
This comment literally made me giggle 😊
idk i just dont get the vibe that he did. I think he is a narcissist and clearly has some other issues - but i dont think he killed her.
@Vee Valenti i think he's saying ''i love you'' to his kids, he's just so lacking in sincerity he can barely mumble it out
@@brittanytavish2454 me too.
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The way Michael tries to save himself after saying the last time he saw Kathleen alive makes him look so much more guilty, if you weren't guilty you wouldn't of thought that much into a word mix up
Sorry , that doesn't really mean or prove anything
@@exitscreaming I'm no detective, I'm not trying to prove anything, simply sharing an opinion just as everyone else here is 😊 cheers though.
@@ccelenaa I agree , just curious about the thought process that leads to those opinions
@@exitscreaming she's right though. it did make him look more guilty.
@@exitscreaming okay well if your looking for facts your in the wrong place I clearly stated this is my opinion, not this is a fact. Move along.
One thing I'm one hundred percent in agreement with is that the Netflix documentary needed some serious editing. It could've been an all time great True Crime Doc if they had paired it down to 3-4 episodes.
He was having an affair with the French editor.
I disagree. Everything behind the scenes (maybe besides cemetary visits) was insightful. In fact, that's what made this documentary different. There are plenty of other true crime shows out there, so have at 'em.
@@sookie4195 Not everything you read on the internet is true. Gossip is tempting though, eh?
@@Kybone it’s actually a known fact and if you watch the HBO series they added it in to the series because it really did happen
@@Kybone It's a fact lmao
It’s so weird when it’s in your state bc then you know what places she is actually talking about
I was so torn on this case (likely because of the bias of the documentary and I play devils advocate a lot) but the moment I knew it was him was Cathleen’s sister was initially on his side and just days after her death she was in his study talking to him. They were looking out the window over the pool and she noticed ALL of the patio furniture was put up for the winter and covered in leaves. There was NO seating around the pool and he claimed to have been hanging out there all night for hours SITTING by the pool….. just a few days later when the documentary crew showed up to film he MOVED THE FURNITURE OUT BY THE POOL. She said in that moment she was filled with fear realizing what he had done.
I was a bit torn until I heard about the other person falling too… there’s no way that’s coincidence!
Wow 😮
I’m with you on that but he could have been sitting outside on a chair from inside or just on the ground. Idk what really happened as I wasn’t there but you don’t have to use lawn chairs to sit by a pool.
@@Jaxinator423 no I definitely get that I believe he did it but I also believe he could brought a chair from inside. Or uncovered and recovered them. And the leaves depending on the wind very well could have recovered the chairs. But I do believe he is guilty just playing devils advocate too. And if he’s ex military he could be more healthy than an average 60 year old depending on his actual MOS in the military. But again he’s probably guilty
"my wife fell off the stairs please help!"
911 operator:how many steps sir?
mike peterson clearly not expecting that question pretends he didn't hear her and start counting the steps. he uses the word "huh" to buy time, the only one time you'll ever hear him say that.
M.P:idk 15-20 steps.(finally answering after 15 seconds)
i knew he was guilty from the first episode
The documentary is so bizarre i get strange feelings too, he’s an absolute narcisist.
I couldn’t finish it. After already watching videos on the case. Seeing how one sided it was and bias towards Michael I couldn’t get through the second episode.
Seems the world is being taken over by narcs...
I don’t know how his team sat in that house with him. Freaky
He grabbed her by the.....
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It's funny Kendall mentioned it was brought up in court that it looked as if someone tried to clean up the blood. I say this because if you look in the bottom right of the picture of Kathleen's body, there is a WHOLE roll of paper towels with blood on them. Does anyone know if that was a point used in court?? 🤷♀️🤷♀️
I feel like if an owl really killed Kathleen there would be feathers inside the house too and not microscopic ones
Exactly.
Also there would most likely be evidence of the bird in the house. Like things knocked over or messed up. If you’ve ever seen a bird inside you know how wild they get. They just don’t fly straight out the door without touching anything especially not after fatally attacking someone.
That’s what I was thinking too. Why was there not more and obvious evidence of an owl being in the house?
I thought the exact same thing. "Then where are any feathers?" Besides microscopic ones
YES!!!
I live in the same neighborhood as Michael Peterson and see him around town. The owls in our neighborhood aren't aggressive by any means. We hear them at night all of the time, but you're lucky to actually see one. Zero chance it was an owl.
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Right, I grew up with all kinds of wild life, including owls, in FL not NC but like owls don't randomly attack they're provoked into attack so why would this owl randomly attack in a place frequented by people? They tend to stay away from human activity in my experience...
When I read into the owl theory, the lawyer (I think?) who brought up the theory was saying a jogger had been attacked recently before Kathleen died. I was very surprised. But I don’t remember where I read it!
Saying “Alford shmalford” in court is wild
You know it is awful strange to me that in the following controversial high-profile cases such as Peterson's, O, J. Simpson's and Scot Peterson's case, while the defendants claim to be innocent, nobody is able to find the so called real killer....hm....At the very least this is food for thought. Thank you for a very interesting podcast. Your hard work is appreciated.
Kendall please look into the case of James Ryker Biel. It’s one of the saddest cases I have ever heard of. I reached out to his mother who has been trying to spread awareness on this case and she would love to work with you.
Put it in her requests, it’s in her description. If the mother fills out the close person forms she’ll almost definitely she it
Yes! She'd definitely do him justice.
@@addy3520 I was going to do that as well. Thanks.
commenting to boost this so she can see it!
@@veraniaelizondo4905 Thank you so much! 💖
Okay the “Owl Theory”- my argument against it. So barn owls were common in that area and they had been sitting outside at night. We have lots of birds around our house and any wind will get them along with sticks, dirt and everything organic all over everything. What if A) she was sitting outside and laid against the backrest of a chair that had some twigs and feathers stuck in it and they got caught in her hair? Or B) what if Michael beat her with an object that was outside and had a few bird feathers and other organic matter on it? I would believe those more than an owl attacking her and ripping her skull to shreds. 🤷🏻♀️
Or she has an owl feather hat
The owl theory was fkn my brain for a minute, so I had to check the comments and your counterarguments sound very reasonable. Thank you :-D
The owl theory was fkn my brain for a minute, so I had to check the comments and your counterarguments sound very reasonable. Thank you :-D
Thats what I figured too
That sounds more unlikely than the owl attack. I could see maybe one feather out there was multiple and her hair was pulled out from the root in her own hand. Also the wounds match owl claws.
Also, I think the problem with this case is our unwillingness to admit we just don't know what happened. Does he seem like he COULD be a killer? Sure. Is there a chance he's not? Yes. We may just never know. We are getting stuck because we keep wanting to assume we know things we don't.
This happened twice tho… that’s too much of a coincidence
stranger things have happened we cant conclude a definite in this case based on the fact that we dont think it could be a coincidence @@Milagrosa247
Yes, I think the same way.
Innocent until proven guilty. There was no proof that Michael killed her.
I couldn’t finish the doc on Netflix so that’s why I’m watching your video on it!
Michael's adopted daughters have lost both their biological parents and their adopted mother.....so sad for them.
They are both very strange imo
I think that’s why they so staunchly support Michael. The truth that their only “parent” killed their mothers is to horrible to believe. Denial can be very powerful.
Everyone's talking about Michael but I feel for the kids😕
Imagine your mother being killed by your own father after rooting for him the entire time......
I'm disappointed that only one of his children believe he did it...not even the adopted ones (Elizabeth's children) and I don't understand why, maybe the truth is too painful
@@reilly4678 That's what I imagine. I mean, who wants to say their dad is a killer, you know?
@@salazar556 Yeah especially since they were so young when he would have killed their mother, they probably don't really have memories of their Mom :-(
They stuck by his side the whole time they still don’t believe it.
The boys are both crinimals
Popped in to watch this again cause I’ve been watching the show on HBO and I’m captivated by it
this case is insane i just finished watching the staircase and i still can't decide how i feel about everything. i just wish justice for kathleen
“That owl got the hell outta there and left no other evidence” 🦉 omg I know it’s wrong to laugh in a true crime documentary but that got me 😅
Something I can’t shake is that her lacerations were vertical, the stairs run horizontal. How could you get vertical lacerations from stairs? 🤔
wait that’s so smart
The bruises she received on her arms were also vertical.
She may have likely fallen down when he attacked her with her head parallel to the stairs, he grabs the sides of her head and smashes it against the edge of the stairs. That's how I also think she ended up with her own hair in her hands, she was also grabbing on trying to fight him off.
Blunt force ripping not a laceration, like if you drop a watermelon on the ground how it tears. That is what they said did it.
@@emelphick4742 I've been reading these comments and what you say makes the most sense to me too. It seems like she would've been trying to protect her head with her hands during his assault. If the blows were so hard to open up her scalp like the way they showed, then the hair maybe would've just come right out. I'm kind of stuck on the owl feathers though. Where do you think they came from?
I appreciate and love everything that Kendall produces, but NGL sometimes I just have her in the background talking away espeically when I'm stressed out, because her voice is just so dang soothing
AND btw when I saw you had done a video on this I was SO glad ! I LOVE YOU AND YOUR VIDEOS MONDAYS ARE SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TOO SINCE I DISCOVERED YOU ABOUT A YEAR AGO!!! ❤❤
the owl knowing it can’t be tried in a human court of law: 😎
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I just can’t get over the death in Germany. If that wasn’t a part of the equation, I don’t know how different my view of this case would be.
Yes I completely agree
Yes
which is why it probably was ruled an accident the first time. Lightening doesn't strike the same place twice.
@@lulub1433 lightning actually strikes the same place pretty often
@@nataliazenkova5774 It's just a saying. Two people involved in the same exact freak accident death in two separate instances related to the same husband is all but impossible. But it's certain the defense lawyer will argue it's plausible.
Earlier in the day she was decorating outside. She was working in a tree. That is where they think the feathers and wood came from. Plus his son recently said he killed her. He was with his mother Patricia the day she died. She had a heart attack and he didn't call 911. Her son came over and called. He said Peterson just watched her die and waited like 2 hours
Ditto. Serial killer. He also helped the neighbor in Germany down the stairs to her death.
Yeah, at least now he knows. RIP Patricia
Great video! Thanks for breaking it down