How Mark Winger Almost Got Away With Murder

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  • Опубликовано: 2 фев 2025

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  • @KendallRae
    @KendallRae  3 года назад +9435

    Hi everyone! Couple things: I know I haven’t been posting as much recently and I apologize for that. I have been going through a tough time personally and sometimes I just can’t pull myself together to cover these cases when I’m going through a difficult time. Right now I’m giving myself time for grieving losses and trying to take care of myself mentally so I can come back full schedule in July. Also- I’m seeing a few comments about audio issues- if you are experiencing too high or too low of volume can you tell me what you are experiencing and also what you are listening on? This would be helpful. Thanks and I apologize for any audio issues. Thank you for your support always 💕💕💕

    • @manda-om9ls
      @manda-om9ls 3 года назад +400

      love you so much beautiful take all the time you need

    • @tonia303
      @tonia303 3 года назад +159

      feel better soon 💕.

    • @lexy9544
      @lexy9544 3 года назад +170

      we love you kendall stay strong

    • @manda-om9ls
      @manda-om9ls 3 года назад +104

      thank you for all you do

    • @jojosirregularattic3269
      @jojosirregularattic3269 3 года назад +273

      Never apologise for taking care of yourself lovely. We'll all be here still xxx

  • @morgannelizabeth597
    @morgannelizabeth597 3 года назад +8199

    so mark killing her best friend wasn’t enough for her to tell the truth but him picking another woman over her is what did. Wow that’s absolutely devastating.

    • @nattybees1962
      @nattybees1962 3 года назад +379

      I couldnt imagine doing that to a best friend. I cant comprehend the cruelty that would take. She deserves to live with guilt

    • @morgannelizabeth597
      @morgannelizabeth597 3 года назад +99

      @@nattybees1962 LITERALLY!! that is so sad. i could never do my best friends like that.

    • @Clouditivity
      @Clouditivity 3 года назад +27

      EXACTLY

    • @debraambrister1058
      @debraambrister1058 3 года назад +16

      Agreed. ❗️

    • @Anerial15
      @Anerial15 3 года назад +19

      THAT PART!!!

  • @TY_Track
    @TY_Track 3 года назад +9202

    I feel so bad for Donna, she was surrounded by horrible people except for her actual family. She didn't deserve any of it

    • @baileesclubhouse2328
      @baileesclubhouse2328 3 года назад +412

      Exactly.. she was betrayed by her best friend and husband. Heartbreaking

    • @manigirly02
      @manigirly02 3 года назад +146

      My thoughts exactly. These fckn selfish people …

    • @melinabucio5577
      @melinabucio5577 3 года назад +4

      d rg

    • @blobster91
      @blobster91 3 года назад +175

      Donna's mom seems like such a loving person. She was rooting for Mark after everything.

    • @lilithlevi9534
      @lilithlevi9534 3 года назад +4

      Dear her husband switch faith but donbt em

  • @cyera7675
    @cyera7675 3 года назад +8215

    Another great example of people forgetting divorce is a thing.

    • @lonepinata
      @lonepinata 3 года назад +636

      Right? I’m going to tell my future husband to just divorce me, not kill me. I won’t put up a fight.

    • @haydeemejia9872
      @haydeemejia9872 3 года назад +94

      @@lonepinata I can’t 😂😂

    • @anush885
      @anush885 3 года назад +389

      They don’t forget . They still want that life insurance

    • @s2lLandals2
      @s2lLandals2 3 года назад +201

      He got 25 K plus 100 K on life insurance. Divorce 6 years into the marriage would mean alimony payments for a baby he signed up for. Forget about it my ass.

    • @tatejones6896
      @tatejones6896 3 года назад +26

      @@s2lLandals2 alimony isn’t the same as child support

  • @sleepingwitharia
    @sleepingwitharia Год назад +519

    One of the things that really disturbs me is that Donnah probably heard her husband talking on the phone, faking distress, when she knew exactly what happened, and not being able to do or say anything...it must have been a terrible thing to think about in her last moments

    • @rooroo1704
      @rooroo1704 Год назад +29

      OMG yes. Your comment gave me chills. This's terrible.

    • @mightymouse1005
      @mightymouse1005 6 месяцев назад +14

      That and knowing your child would be in his care

  • @barbaratoledo3800
    @barbaratoledo3800 3 года назад +8087

    The scariest person in this is DeAnn. Having an affair with your best friend's husband and continuing the affair after she knew he had killed her and then only telling the truth after he picked Rebecca over her. The ""guilt" didn't get to her. Jealousy did. The fact she didn't get charged with anything is such a miscarriage of justice.

    • @lusomarga
      @lusomarga 3 года назад +283

      She might be immoral and utter trash but she did not break any laws apart from withholding information, and that she got away with as a part of the deal because she voluntarily came forward herself.

    • @ebonyloveivory
      @ebonyloveivory 3 года назад +253

      @@lusomarga As you said though, it's still immoral and downright trashy of her. It's just sad she can't be charged with a crime.

    • @zebahpatanwala9100
      @zebahpatanwala9100 3 года назад +3

      Exactly

    • @hellsbelle7533
      @hellsbelle7533 3 года назад +6

      100%

    • @hellsbelle7533
      @hellsbelle7533 3 года назад +324

      @@lusomarga she did break laws actually. She was complicit. She knew that she would be murdered and knew the plan. After her murder she went along with it. She should’ve been charged. She 100% broke several laws.

  • @DanielaEsq
    @DanielaEsq 3 года назад +3959

    So basically Deanne knew everything since the beginning? There was not guilt, she just came out with the truth because Mark did not chose her. She should have been held accountable too.

    • @tria2010
      @tria2010 3 года назад +73

      Sadly you can’t arrest someone for revenge, she will just be remembered as a bad person

    • @haydeemejia9872
      @haydeemejia9872 3 года назад +8

      I agreee 💯

    • @mackenxie9903
      @mackenxie9903 3 года назад +153

      @@tria2010 you can arrest someone for withholding evidence though

    • @anousalis4089
      @anousalis4089 3 года назад +2

      Facts!

    • @sarahsodone5993
      @sarahsodone5993 3 года назад +9

      @@mackenxie9903 she was never a suspect she never lied to the police. Was she even interviewed? And technically she didn’t withhold anything because she came out later and said it. Just not in a timely manner

  • @Gabsloch
    @Gabsloch 3 года назад +4261

    I don’t feel bad for Deanne. She knew her “best friend”‘s husband wanted her dead and she never said anything.

    • @kbm2055
      @kbm2055 3 года назад +47

      Some people can some pretty fucked up things and have guilt as time goes on. Others may sleep like a baby from day one and never think much of it. Whether you feel bad for her or not, it's good that she finally said something for the other people involved.

    • @LovenEverythingNails
      @LovenEverythingNails 3 года назад +55

      Exactly!!!! She's a fawking snake 🐍

    • @alice.ichigo
      @alice.ichigo 3 года назад +32

      He’d probably kill her too. She was also in love with him, he used her feelings to manipulate her…. She definitely made some shitty choices, but I do feel bad for her. In the end, she did the right thing, and it wasn’t too late.

    • @Itss.quayza
      @Itss.quayza 3 года назад +4

      Same

    • @exitscreaming
      @exitscreaming 3 года назад +21

      Yepp , who knows about this story because it's so convoluted ----but Kendall is saying Deanne had an affair with her best friends husband , said nothing after she thought he murdered her---but then got upset because he chose another woman to be with

  • @AngysDream
    @AngysDream 3 года назад +921

    the fact that the jealousy got to DeAnn rather than the fact he killed her bestfriend is one of the most alarming things about this case

    • @RoseJackson1607
      @RoseJackson1607 8 месяцев назад +1

      only if you're extremely misogynistic

    • @Stardustuk
      @Stardustuk 6 месяцев назад +3

      Exactly, it's weird to defend her and say she felt guilt
      She only went to the police because she was jealous
      She's such a horrible person and I don't understand how no charges were pressed against her

    • @neige4221
      @neige4221 5 месяцев назад

      @@StardustukIt was her anger at him for marrying another which eventually made her do the right thing.

  • @bekahdoug5572
    @bekahdoug5572 3 года назад +6174

    DeAnne didn't wanna hurt Donna?? As she has an affair with her husband, AND keeps his murder plot a secret for YEARS!! Girl....Don't NOBODY feel bad for you!!

    • @SunniDae333
      @SunniDae333 3 года назад +324

      Exactly, she's *sick* to do that to her best friend.

    • @ST4RRULEZ
      @ST4RRULEZ 3 года назад +403

      She only came forward when she realized Mark married the babysitter

    • @Meanie74
      @Meanie74 3 года назад +56

      More like didn’t want to hurt Donna, herself.

    • @playboycaam
      @playboycaam 3 года назад +83

      She also knew that Her best friend could possibly get killed

    • @gemroseuk185
      @gemroseuk185 3 года назад +92

      Absolutely, ZERO sympathy for DeAnne.

  • @ezgia8
    @ezgia8 3 года назад +2275

    You don't need enemies when you have friends like Deanne

    • @jennzifur
      @jennzifur 3 года назад +81

      For real. F her. She is just mad he chose another woman; doubt she would’ve said anything if they were happily married skipping through the tulips.

    • @sierramcclary2897
      @sierramcclary2897 3 года назад +4

      @@jennzifur If it wasn’t for her, the case would have been opened.

    • @tototima8126
      @tototima8126 3 года назад +26

      @@sierramcclary2897 it’s still fuck deanne tho

    • @maryamtara2934
      @maryamtara2934 3 года назад +19

      Yikes I hope non of my friends are Deanne

    • @HerMakeupIsRad
      @HerMakeupIsRad 3 года назад +9

      LITERALLY

  • @chloeealexiss
    @chloeealexiss 3 года назад +3532

    What tripped me out is how he sounded so distraught on the call, probably stopped the act when he hung up on the operator, and then put the act back on. I'm imagining him just having a straight face in between calls as he makes sure everyone is dead, scary

    • @timpy42
      @timpy42 3 года назад +168

      Do you think he might of actually panicked in the moment? Like "Oh shoot, I actually did this"? The emotion felt so real...he's an unfortunately good actor

    • @v.958
      @v.958 3 года назад +115

      Listening to the 911 call was interesting for me. My brain was convinced by his acting. However now I’m reflecting on it... knowing my tender-hearted self, I think I would have started balling if I had sensed real emotional anguish in his voice.

    • @mrbenzedrine8710
      @mrbenzedrine8710 3 года назад +78

      Nah, he totally was acting. He had a story for everything and didn’t miss a beat on his story. He planned it before he even called.

    • @cealies7326
      @cealies7326 3 года назад +32

      such an actor, really scary indeed

    • @Odette321
      @Odette321 3 года назад +54

      He didn't sound distraught at all. He sounded like he was breathing fast trying to sound distraught like other fakers who've been caught.

  • @03Mrbg
    @03Mrbg 3 года назад +2207

    There’s something i can’t stop thinking about this case: What if Mark had decided to stay with DeAnn? Would she have confessed? Or would she still be quiet to this day?

    • @Beanhill_94
      @Beanhill_94 3 года назад +416

      She would have been quiet.

    • @julicezar9213
      @julicezar9213 3 года назад +140

      Seeing how he was a cheater and a cold blooded murdered, he would have done something eventually that would cause her to expose him

    • @Cami-dc9iu
      @Cami-dc9iu 3 года назад +9

      Well I wonder , because I still cant just say "she will not be quite to this day"

    • @iriswaldenburger2315
      @iriswaldenburger2315 3 года назад +83

      Imagine they HADNT ran into her at the emergency room…

    • @sweetpotatofries99
      @sweetpotatofries99 3 года назад +55

      I think she'd have kept quiet-- until he started treating her badly, which was likely inevitable.

  • @madisonl3401
    @madisonl3401 3 года назад +2369

    Deanne saying "She didn't need to die. She didn't deserve to die"
    YEAH NO SHIT! YOU WERE THE ONE WHO COULD HAVE STOPPED IT AND SAVED HER LIFE! She only went to the cops when she was the rejected woman and Mark picked Rebecca. What a POS. If she is expecting us to feel bad for her, news flash! We DON'T!

    • @M.e.g.a.n.
      @M.e.g.a.n. 3 года назад +53

      Exactly! 100%

    • @opulenttinglesasmr789
      @opulenttinglesasmr789 3 года назад +81

      Agreed. She’s disgusting! Mad because she got played and only went to the police because she was jealous.

    • @Rideem2261
      @Rideem2261 3 года назад +28

      Exactly what I was thinking like girl bye your so selfish

    • @Thufferinthuckotash
      @Thufferinthuckotash 3 года назад +40

      DeAnn was the worst possible friend ever!
      I hope no one ever has a friend like DeAnn!
      Poor Donnah :(

    • @MaryGIrlMoody
      @MaryGIrlMoody 3 года назад +14

      Truth. What a fucking horrible person to have as a best friend!

  • @volllllov
    @volllllov 3 года назад +4848

    Detective Cox has humility for admitting he made a mistake, good on him, not many people would be able to face their mistake, especially a mistake like this.

    • @slimjadeyyy
      @slimjadeyyy 3 года назад +61

      Agreed ! So rare

    • @ThePrincessofWells
      @ThePrincessofWells 3 года назад +28

      Absolutely agree

    • @heyhey11793
      @heyhey11793 3 года назад +46

      @@slimjadeyyy especially with cops and detectives

    • @emmalinCaproni
      @emmalinCaproni 3 года назад +15

      This is not the norm for Springfield

    • @iloveyourunclebob
      @iloveyourunclebob 3 года назад +19

      @@emmalinCaproni honestly, not the norm for anyone who works for the government in Illinois

  • @gabyjoe1100
    @gabyjoe1100 3 года назад +2534

    I don’t respect deann because she only started to feel “guilty” when she was left behind for another woman. She IS just a woman scorned and full of it. She was fine with being implicated in the crime until she felt rejected. She’s a horrible person and should have been charged also.

    • @zirqskitchen9964
      @zirqskitchen9964 3 года назад +14

      Yes.. what a clever fox..

    • @battlechick
      @battlechick 3 года назад +3

      👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

    • @ladyparker9431
      @ladyparker9431 3 года назад +9

      I totally agree she's just as culpable

    • @valerie7008
      @valerie7008 3 года назад +2

      Hopefully you’ve never made a mistake and felt guilty for it. If so we can tear you apart and dissect you, too.

    • @carnelianjester
      @carnelianjester 3 года назад +114

      @@valerie7008 There's a difference between a mistake and helping cover up a double homicide

  • @djs2182
    @djs2182 Год назад +312

    The audacity of Mark suing the transportation company for hiring the man he falsely pinned a murder on

    • @rooroo1704
      @rooroo1704 Год назад

      That's the jews for you in a nutshell.
      Come for me IDGAF that's the truth.

    • @adegg9616
      @adegg9616 Год назад +18

      One thing he has plenty of was audacity.

    • @joeylamuel5828
      @joeylamuel5828 Год назад +4

      One of the damn things,other than the photos, that tripped him up.

  • @thebinhanly
    @thebinhanly 3 года назад +1854

    Mark: “be a part of the murder plot with me”
    Deanne: “you’re crazy”
    Deanne: *continues affair with Mark after her best friend’s murder and only comes clean out of jealousy and spite*
    Donnah deserved much, much better.

    • @aidynathome9927
      @aidynathome9927 3 года назад +21

      10000% !!!!

    • @lauren9004
      @lauren9004 3 года назад +3

      Exactly ugh

    • @madisonnicole5649
      @madisonnicole5649 3 года назад

      @@aidynathome9927 lll

    • @TheChecharrua
      @TheChecharrua 3 года назад +8

      THIS! What a disgusting human being, she truly is just as vile as he is. I wish they had given her some time for being complicit, she even knew about it before it happened. Sick.

    • @lauren9004
      @lauren9004 3 года назад +1

      @@TheChecharrua Exactly ugh!

  • @oliviavoce4462
    @oliviavoce4462 3 года назад +3140

    my heart just breaks for Roger, he seems like he was maybe struggling with mental health and was a bit of an outcast :(

    • @monagallegos1227
      @monagallegos1227 3 года назад +218

      i was looking for this comment…. He deserved better :(

    • @chloel.8007
      @chloel.8007 3 года назад +160

      Yes. It seems like he had a case of arrested development and very misunderstood and didn't realize he was being set up. I hope his family gets a settlement or compensation.

    • @Nyquil5
      @Nyquil5 3 года назад +126

      I'm glad his family were able to see his name cleared. Rude behavior does not necessarily make someone a murderer.

    • @lauren9004
      @lauren9004 3 года назад +11

      Yea poor guy

    • @morgannaomi1231
      @morgannaomi1231 3 года назад +43

      Not to say he deserved what happened, but didn't it say that he was well known to commit acts of domestic violence? Which is one reason it was so easy to set him up in the first place?

  • @kaylataylor8597
    @kaylataylor8597 3 года назад +3218

    Also if Roger was obsessed with Donna, why would Mark’s name be on the note and not Donna’s?

    • @Krystal_Clearr
      @Krystal_Clearr 3 года назад +137

      YES

    • @paulinasanchez7717
      @paulinasanchez7717 3 года назад +145

      Because they prolly thought since he was obsessed with Donna he wanted to get rid of Mark but it went wrong . His target was the husband or maybe since he didn't take a weapon with him . He wanted to see her and then that went wrong. But still things don't really add up. Glad it was solved !!

    • @Krystal_Clearr
      @Krystal_Clearr 3 года назад +37

      @@paulinasanchez7717 ah! Good perspective!!
      Thank you

    • @rociomedina4935
      @rociomedina4935 3 года назад +5

      EXACTLY!

    • @heloisavillela8065
      @heloisavillela8065 3 года назад +5

      my thought exactly

  • @embow7033
    @embow7033 2 года назад +213

    Mad respect for Charlie Cox owning up to the errors. Nice to see someone take some responsibility.

  • @gilliand777
    @gilliand777 3 года назад +887

    the fact that the “best friend” exchanged rings with mark and committed “life with him” AFTER she already knew he killed donnah.. ??? like excuse me

  • @andrewfriday7693
    @andrewfriday7693 3 года назад +2324

    I see similarities between Mark Winger and other wife murderers like Chris Watts and Scott Peterson. Seemingly decent husband and fathers who have a dark side. Scares me.

    • @blobster91
      @blobster91 3 года назад +180

      Fuels my trust issues even more. You could be living with or near a murderer.

    • @aidynathome9927
      @aidynathome9927 3 года назад +86

      There’s usually red flags but yes, they walk among us!! 😱 insane to me how easy it is to portray the “all American couple” story that these people are able to do

    • @esotericarmadillo45
      @esotericarmadillo45 3 года назад +56

      Stories like these make being single a blessing. Why is it so often the spouse/significant other??

    • @christinasia2172
      @christinasia2172 3 года назад +30

      Caroline Crouch was also murdered by her "good man, loving, christian" husband.

    • @alexandria8339
      @alexandria8339 3 года назад +55

      Makes me want someone who isn’t perfect at all and shows their real emotions. I think the scariest people are those who seem *perfect* and don’t always show their true emotions but act charming no matter what. I know from experience, my ex husband attempted murder on me twice and everyone thought he was the most charming person .. he continues to do this to women to this day. I’ve told the system numerous times he will end up killing a woman in his lifetime. He was incarcerated but not actually murdering someone they don’t give that much time (2 years!!). He is able to manipulate even the system into thinking he’s better. Then he gets out and does it again. And his mother is his biggest enabler, sweet talking women even more for him and then threatening the woman after an attack for him. And claims to be the most devoted Christian. And of course he never tells anyone about his past. It’s honest to God sickening.

  • @Aimee-wc8hm
    @Aimee-wc8hm 3 года назад +3224

    I’m so confused why her “best friend” DeAnn didn’t get charged with anything? She didn’t kill her but she definitely withheld info so she is an accomplice in a way.

    • @hannahgreen7193
      @hannahgreen7193 3 года назад +245

      She received immunity for coming forward with the information on Mark.

    • @monetmonroe4644
      @monetmonroe4644 3 года назад +284

      And lowkey if she had it her way he would’ve been with her and not Rebecca she wouldn’t have said a thing

    • @exitscreaming
      @exitscreaming 3 года назад +78

      She threw Mark under the bus and saved herself

    • @lulub1433
      @lulub1433 3 года назад +145

      If the justice system punishes people who come forth on their own with information, a whole lot more people would not come forward.

    • @exitscreaming
      @exitscreaming 3 года назад +29

      @@lulub1433 Great point

  • @shubhitasharma8054
    @shubhitasharma8054 2 года назад +150

    It's so said that everybody is talking about Donna but not about Roger. Poor Roger he was killed, just because he wanted to apologise. And he just fell into Mark's trap. Poor Roger and Donna. RIP to both of them.

  • @rachelsmith5523
    @rachelsmith5523 3 года назад +3662

    I feel like the “best friend “ is horrible too! It doesn’t seem to me that she felt guilty about what happened to Donnah she was betrayed by mark and wanted revenge that’s why I think she came forward with everything. Just my opinion plz don’t hate on me for having an opinion ✌🏻

    • @PrincessB6
      @PrincessB6 3 года назад +451

      That was my thought too. I don’t think Donna’s “friend” ever truly cared about her. Like, she really “exchanged” rings with her dead “friends” husband right after her brutal murder. I think she was just mad at Mark for ditching her for the nanny and wanted to get back at him.

    • @sonotu2855
      @sonotu2855 3 года назад +115

      @@PrincessB6
      Oh yeah definitely Donna's s friend Deann committed the ultimate betrayal and I wonder what else she really knew before Donna's murder

    • @Brinalovesyoux33
      @Brinalovesyoux33 3 года назад +42

      ya she should have definitely came forwds when this first happened so those kids didn't have to grow up without a father..it was also weird that he had a note in his car with a time on it..

    • @beautifulsoul4521
      @beautifulsoul4521 3 года назад +93

      Bingo!! Deanne is trash and just as much responsible smh

    • @brooklynnbailey4356
      @brooklynnbailey4356 3 года назад +74

      Yuuup! She def got away with murder herself. How could you stab your "best friend" in the back & then not come forward when you KNOW he killed her!?!?

  • @kimberleysnagg4215
    @kimberleysnagg4215 3 года назад +1817

    My theory? Mark and Dianne continued their affair well after he married Rebecca. As time passed, realizing he had no intention of leaving his wife and family, Dianne decided to rat him out. Also, Dianne was complicit in Donna's death--helped or at least consented to her murder. If Dianne wasn't a woman scorned, poor Donna would have never gotten justice.

    • @kerrysater157
      @kerrysater157 3 года назад +52

      @@belmum1689 that's what she says, but who knows if she's being honest. She doesn't have the greatest track record

    • @alkahinat4558
      @alkahinat4558 3 года назад +57

      I’ve noticed that a few times, it’s a salty side chick who goes to police with key information, their morality kick in after the liaison ends, how convenient 😊

    • @dafnepalma4666
      @dafnepalma4666 3 года назад +26

      For sure, she never felt any remorse, she talked because she got jelous, she's sick, guilt my ass.

    • @jrb4347
      @jrb4347 3 года назад +3

      100%

    • @samsinclair656
      @samsinclair656 3 года назад +21

      His babysitter was pregnant 5 months after his wife's death.... He was probs still screwing her on the side while charming the babysitter..... He moved on hella fast! Not from his wife from his mistress and thats why she came out n told the truth... She shud be charged with being an accessory

  • @ouranFan98
    @ouranFan98 3 года назад +668

    Does Donnah’s ‘’’best friend’’ expect us to feel bad for her? Like she literally confessed her involvement when she realized that mark dropped her sorry ass to f*ck the baby sitter. Just my opinion but to me it seemed like she kept her mouth shut in hopes of Mark marrying her instead of the baby sitter

    • @mylaperkins213
      @mylaperkins213 3 года назад +8

      She should feel guilty she did donnah so wrong😒

    • @starnighty4996
      @starnighty4996 2 года назад +1

      I agree because they bought rings together after he killed Donna. The best friend is equally as guilty!

  • @carag3921
    @carag3921 3 года назад +204

    I'm so happy Rebecca reconnected with Donna's family again.

  • @whatsthat2486
    @whatsthat2486 3 года назад +462

    Wow what a horrible friend. I mean wow, for one sleeping with your bestfriends husband and wanting to take her place. Him also talking about killing her and having her be in it. Then not say shit to police for years?? Until she had a falling out with him?? That’s not a friend. She should’ve been charged. Disgusting

  • @aliciaa5894
    @aliciaa5894 3 года назад +755

    Her “best friend” Deann didn’t feel bad about her death, she was just mad that she lost Mark to the nanny.

    • @LovenEverythingNails
      @LovenEverythingNails 3 года назад +13

      Yep! 💯 and thay Deanne loser deserves to be locked up!

    • @givemeyoursternum6817
      @givemeyoursternum6817 3 года назад +10

      She’s disgusting

    • @lizschuller6894
      @lizschuller6894 3 года назад +10

      I Know. she is just as much to blame. MY god are there any good people left here in the world?

  • @Hellokittylove324
    @Hellokittylove324 3 года назад +2643

    Hooking up with the nanny that fast it’s so weird and how she got pregnant very fast is strange to. It’s almost like he resented his Deceased wife because she couldn’t give him biological children.

    • @mrjamila88
      @mrjamila88 3 года назад +170

      Oh good point.

    • @vixceous
      @vixceous 3 года назад +242

      That's exactly it.
      Misogyny

    • @tiashac7982
      @tiashac7982 3 года назад +35

      I thought this as well.

    • @charlottsie2187
      @charlottsie2187 3 года назад +19

      My thoughts exactly

    • @0blivion2017
      @0blivion2017 3 года назад +65

      I didn’t even realize this until you said it, great point!

  • @sidology1.0
    @sidology1.0 2 года назад +359

    Whenever you said "live in nanny" I already knew the turn this was going to take 😩🤚🏾

    • @dastrnad
      @dastrnad Год назад +22

      I was suspicious of the “best friend” picture. They usually aren’t mentioned unless they are a hero or a villain. Villain in this case.

    • @Brielizabeth95
      @Brielizabeth95 Год назад +4

      💯I was saying, yep here we go🤦‍♀

    • @CherryBlossomBlyue
      @CherryBlossomBlyue Год назад +2

      Same, Like I knew where this was going

    • @taram9409
      @taram9409 Год назад +3

      Notice how the live in nannies are usually always young and pretty...🤔

    • @evoluna3056
      @evoluna3056 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@taram9409 Yes, here in Germany is a case without murder, where the husband took the very young nanny and divorced his wife. A really rich publisher.

  • @user_017
    @user_017 3 года назад +563

    In the 20/20 episode about this case, they state that the young cop at the scene who had suspicions about Mark's story (the one whose picture Kendall shows) was the one who took those Polaroids that ended up convicting Mark years later. The cop just knew this all didn't seem right but didn't have the clout to push it anywhere at the time.

    • @ozarkldy8117
      @ozarkldy8117 3 года назад +47

      So glad you added this. I wondered why no one knew about them & who took them. When EMS has to be on scene stat like that it can change evidence. But i don't know why they couldn't testify as to why they wouldn't have moved a gunshot victim 180°

    • @dyslexiahelpforallages4176
      @dyslexiahelpforallages4176 3 года назад +9

      Good for him!!!!

    • @PamelaH_HappyVibes
      @PamelaH_HappyVibes 3 года назад +21

      It sounds like the young Officer has a gut instinct that makes a great detective.

    • @Krystal_Clearr
      @Krystal_Clearr 3 года назад

      🙌

  • @GoogleTrendingTopics
    @GoogleTrendingTopics 3 года назад +1159

    Kudos to Detective Cox for never giving up on that gut feeling of his AND for admitting his mistake and doing his best to help. Detectives are still human, and mistakes happen. It takes someone with integrity to admit they were wrong, especially in a situation like this.

    • @mjpthetrucker9485
      @mjpthetrucker9485 3 года назад +40

      he is a rare example of police officers doing it. Very rare. Many times it's swept under the rug.

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS 2 года назад +11

      It was Doug Williamson who was suspicious from the very beginning and Cox wasn’t on his partner’s side until after Winger kept making unnecessary visits to the station

    • @taram9409
      @taram9409 Год назад

      Yep, I thought the same.

  • @abbywells2995
    @abbywells2995 3 года назад +948

    Beating someone to death with a hammer is .... absolutely horrific. Especially someone you are claiming to love. I just cannot believe the second wife saw no red flags at all in their marriage.

    • @knownbeforecreation
      @knownbeforecreation 3 года назад +127

      Unless she cracked it all up to ptsd or as normal stressors/reactions in a marriage. She was very young, much younger than him and this was likely her first serious relationship. She was also pregnant/freshly post-partum for 98% of their relationship/marriage which likely incentivized rose tinted glasses and or allowed things to be chalked up hormones. Millions of people wind up in relationships with abusive people without realizing it, it can be hard to know until it’s too late.

    • @ozarkldy8117
      @ozarkldy8117 3 года назад +14

      @@knownbeforecreation very well said!

    • @lauralck
      @lauralck 3 года назад +6

      yeah I'd like to hear more about her process

    • @heather_857
      @heather_857 3 года назад +45

      He’s a complete sociopathic malignant narcissist, with no remorse, regret or guilt. I have no doubts that he is a great actor and manipulator, can’t blame a women looking after 4 kids to not see any tiny red flags.

    • @jessicavangenderen6540
      @jessicavangenderen6540 3 года назад +8

      She gave him 4 biological children. He probably didn't resent her as much as Donna, so less noticeable red flags

  • @MeganSin
    @MeganSin 2 года назад +182

    I feel the most for roger and his family because his mental health struggles and eccentric personality was used against him and he was seen as the perpetrator for so many years before the truth came out

    • @EmVea419
      @EmVea419 2 года назад +12

      Me too. Mark is completely awful, but what he did to Roger is the icing on the sh*t cake.

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Год назад +5

      I also feel for Detective Doug Williamson because he was the only person to be suspicious of Mark from the beginning and that his supervisor and the rest of the department kept turning him down including his partner Charles Cox. However Mark’s constant visits to the police station, was what ultimately got Cox back on his partner’s side. But as soon they both took their concerns to their supervisor, they were both turned down saying that they needed something more concrete to make it official.

    • @joeylamuel5828
      @joeylamuel5828 Год назад

      ​@crucialtaunt571Corn. Not icing.

  • @goats_19
    @goats_19 3 года назад +369

    Those videos of Donna with her daughter are absolutely heartbreaking, She was so excited to finally be a mother and I'm sure she would've been an amazing mom. She deserved to live a happy full life with her baby. Such a sad story.

  • @cyera7675
    @cyera7675 3 года назад +453

    “how powerful secrets can be” this isn’t middle school gossip your best friend died and you hid it for 3 years.

    • @uhbasmr4942
      @uhbasmr4942 3 года назад +9

      I had a similar thought at that point too like how childish some of the people in these cases can be is mind blowing

    • @lucky-charms7605
      @lucky-charms7605 3 года назад +3

      Right!

    • @Sshazex
      @Sshazex 3 года назад +6

      Exactlyyy. Like girl you are not a victim here you’re an accessory to murder damn near

  • @aisha8432
    @aisha8432 2 года назад +185

    the way DeAnn said she feels guilty and that she loved Donna all while she was sleeping with Mark behind Donna's back and knew Mark wanted to kill Donna and kept it a secret for years. the audacity to victimize herself in this situation

    • @lelu810
      @lelu810 Год назад +1

      She's has same responsibility as Donna's husband.

    • @joeylamuel5828
      @joeylamuel5828 Год назад

      That is not love.

    • @Grace-tc1lq
      @Grace-tc1lq 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@lelu810She’s the perfect example of ‘with friends like this, who needs enemies’?

  • @saramujkic7387
    @saramujkic7387 3 года назад +577

    Donna was betrayed by her husband and best friend. may she rest in peace.

    • @ashleyeastcott7641
      @ashleyeastcott7641 3 года назад +32

      Absolutely disgusting, the two people she loved and trusted the most. My heart breaks.

  • @mahikabibiyan8464
    @mahikabibiyan8464 3 года назад +688

    Donnah's family is literally the sweetest, and so was Donnah. No one deserved this. This was so heartbreaking. Thank you Kendall, for sharing this story.

  • @Hdeezy42
    @Hdeezy42 Год назад +124

    43:40 I cannot help but think if Roger and his roommate weren’t living in a trailer park, their stories would have been believed at the time of the murders. Donnah’s story is so tragic and she was obviously let down in so many terrible ways. But Roger was also let down in the fact that police didn’t want to believe anybody in his life due to their social status.

    • @dastrnad
      @dastrnad Год назад +11

      And his mental illness.

    • @violetsrayreikishop2
      @violetsrayreikishop2 Год назад +11

      They should've known when he had a note with Mark winger named and number and cigarettes and another item was found with him, a killer wouldn't bring those items nor want to have anything attaching them to coming to the crime scene. That evidence right there should've made them look deeper and look to see if Mark lured him there cause Donnah would definitely not want someone that scared her so much in their home nor would she open the door for him.

    • @feonaarabellaparaiso1786
      @feonaarabellaparaiso1786 Год назад +5

      @@violetsrayreikishop2I always found that odd because why wouldn’t he have Donna’s name and phone number? You would think he would have his target’s name and phone number, rather than her husband’s info. At least, that was odd to me.

  • @misshathaway3576
    @misshathaway3576 3 года назад +413

    I love how it seemed like Rodger’s family wasn’t holding any grudges with how the investigation went; although his name was dragged through filth initially, they were just as happy to see Donnah receive true justice

    • @Hazelthehedgehog22
      @Hazelthehedgehog22 3 года назад +36

      more likely to be happy that Rodger got true justice, as well as Donnah, considering Rodger was a victim himself too.

  • @ceciliacosta8148
    @ceciliacosta8148 3 года назад +797

    My question is would Deanne ever come forward if Mark chose her?? Smh she’s a pretty icky person as well..

    • @Ashlyy__0
      @Ashlyy__0 3 года назад +31

      I was just going to say this.

    • @gabyjoe1100
      @gabyjoe1100 3 года назад +21

      Yea she is a gross human being

    • @CeDM
      @CeDM 3 года назад +18

      And the answer is..... Nope! 😏

    • @jor7441
      @jor7441 3 года назад +8

      so true, terrifying thought

    • @LovenEverythingNails
      @LovenEverythingNails 3 года назад +12

      She wouldn't! She is just as bad as Mark!

  • @sweetttdisposition
    @sweetttdisposition 3 года назад +908

    How is killing someone easier than just getting a divorce... I cant

    • @acewingate6993
      @acewingate6993 3 года назад +4

      So how did they get the driver to come over to frame him? I think I missed that part

    • @Ashhbitch1
      @Ashhbitch1 3 года назад +34

      @@acewingate6993 mark asked Roger to come over, I guess because of what happened when Roger drove Donna home from the airport and Roger was excited to go over to their house so he could clear things up

    • @Olivkazp
      @Olivkazp 3 года назад +35

      Because narcissists care about an opinion about them more than about another human being. And in their minds they think they will get away with murder.

    • @acewingate6993
      @acewingate6993 3 года назад +5

      @@Ashhbitch1 thanks! yeah, I think I just wanted more details of that, like how that conversation happened so easily

    • @jenj1221
      @jenj1221 3 года назад +9

      Money 💰💸

  • @jbonilla43
    @jbonilla43 Год назад +46

    this actually hurts my heart. i’ve watched many true crime videos but hearing how much she wanted kids and seeing how loving and wonderful and happy that she was able to fulfill that dream but then being killed 3 months after is soo gut wrenching. it hurts me to hear she wasn’t given more time to see her child grow

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Год назад +4

      But what’s even worse, from we heard on the 20/20, is that Mark was trying to erase Donnah’s memory as if she never existed

  • @hopecraft1895
    @hopecraft1895 3 года назад +270

    Imagine having an affair with your best friends husband KNOWING he is going to kill her and claiming you “felt guilt” YEARS later when he didn’t choose you. OKAY DEANNE OKAY. I hope she feels guilty because she should feel awful

  • @reshikamahat2293
    @reshikamahat2293 3 года назад +703

    I feel bad for Donnah and Roger. They didn't deserve that. It horrifies me to think about how many criminals are walking freely. DeAnn only came forward because she felt betrayed by Mark. If it was guilt then she would have exposed him before but she only told the truth to police when she saw Mark and Rebecca together on hospital. He could have just divorced Donnah instead of killing her. Reminder to these horrible mf that divorce exist.

    • @v.r.m.891
      @v.r.m.891 3 года назад +27

      I hate when I hear when a spouse kills another spouse for someone else divorce exist ugh

    • @fatimahmonet4976
      @fatimahmonet4976 3 года назад +11

      @@v.r.m.891 Ya he could've just divorced with her not kill her why can't he THINK

    • @v.r.m.891
      @v.r.m.891 3 года назад +6

      @@fatimahmonet4976 I know tell me about it anyways I guess it was easier for him to collect the insurance money

    • @bjjjb3056
      @bjjjb3056 3 года назад +2

      I feel like if he would of had the Deanne woman she would of still be quiet to this day but he pissed her off soo..

    • @rachellivette6737
      @rachellivette6737 3 года назад +3

      @@bjjjb3056 right! I was thinking the same. If it went the way they planned, DeAnn wouldn’t have come forward about it, but if they did stay together after her death people would question that Donna best friend is with her husband.

  • @SamWiseTheGrey
    @SamWiseTheGrey 3 года назад +668

    Mark said, “why would I kill my wife and not just get a divorce if I didn’t love her anymore.” Well I think he killed her for insurance money and so he wouldn’t be painted a villain if he left her when they were about to adopt a newborn. I also think the best friend who blew the case open had more to do with it than she says.

    • @AdviceFromAHipoCrite
      @AdviceFromAHipoCrite 3 года назад +9

      I completely agree!! She had to have something to do with it

    • @cakebby18
      @cakebby18 3 года назад +3

      @@Tam-ns4jo Amazing point

    • @leilasab3724
      @leilasab3724 3 года назад +4

      Agreed!! screw deanne

    • @jomfomaw6208
      @jomfomaw6208 3 года назад +5

      Ah yes 🙌 money 💰!!! Thank you my question is answered as to Divorce is not seen as the “cheaper” option. Who said money can’t buy you love!!! But it certainly buys death 💀!!

    • @SamWiseTheGrey
      @SamWiseTheGrey 3 года назад +1

      @@Tam-ns4jo Super good point!!

  • @kayleemaynor1155
    @kayleemaynor1155 2 года назад +110

    Omg when she first picked up the baby and saw it for the first time I teared up you could really tell she wanted to be a mother, true love at first sight 🥺

  • @Tj_-ym9jr
    @Tj_-ym9jr 3 года назад +762

    “I would have just divorced her” continues to have an affair behind her back. Okay Mark.

  • @joselynanaih2523
    @joselynanaih2523 3 года назад +1478

    KENDALL! Funny story : I was sitting in my living room and heard your voice on my moms phone. I look over and see that she watches your videos through Facebook! Found out my moms been a viewer for about a year now! We then went on to talk about cases you've covered for a few hours haha I love it!

    • @donnasulja6038
      @donnasulja6038 3 года назад +33

      Aww that’s lovely ☺️☺️

    • @lizzyygee
      @lizzyygee 3 года назад +14

      My mom and I watch her too! My mom told me a few years ago about her, so when I caught myself watching more true crime cases, I gave Kendall a shot and no regrets!

    • @sophiajosephine7268
      @sophiajosephine7268 3 года назад +11

      girl my mom does the same thing, sometimes it just starts in the middle of a story and she’ll just watch it having absolutely no context just because she loves kendall that much

    • @thaahirsamsodien9518
      @thaahirsamsodien9518 3 года назад +4

      I found out my mom watches her the same way, no joke. And my mom watches through Facebook too. I heard kendalls voice when I was napping on the couch and woke up coz I thought I left my phone on and it was my mom watching her videos on Facebook.

    • @Gabriellaella23
      @Gabriellaella23 3 года назад +5

      If my mom used social media I know she would love Kendall. She watches ID and other crime shows all the time. A lot of the cases that I tell her about she already knows lol

  • @AmberWilliams
    @AmberWilliams 3 года назад +1024

    “it all made sense, case closed”
    *20 minutes in*
    ah shit, here we go

    • @ellajejs9465
      @ellajejs9465 3 года назад +25

      fr i re read the title and was like wait a minute..

    • @samanthap9161
      @samanthap9161 3 года назад +6

      It was a great hook. I was like hol up...

    • @Hannah-gx4vq
      @Hannah-gx4vq 2 года назад +1

      I love how Kendall often doesn't give away the ending. She takes you through what everyone knew at the time as though it's fact, even if she knows that changes later in the story. It really takes you on a journey.

  • @malcolmblacctheicon
    @malcolmblacctheicon 3 года назад +319

    Kendall’s ability to be unbiased in these cases really do be making me picture the whole story instead of knowing whose the bad guy off jump .

  • @hannahz6848
    @hannahz6848 3 года назад +2156

    I don’t for one single second feel badly for Deanne.

    • @lasagnewolf
      @lasagnewolf 3 года назад +85

      Me either, she's just as bad as Mark imo.

    • @m-pl9fd
      @m-pl9fd 3 года назад +178

      and she manages to play the victim like: "i had suicide attempts i feel guilty 🥺🥺🥺" she is dis-gus-ting

    • @cynthiaisako
      @cynthiaisako 3 года назад +12

      @@m-pl9fd exactly !!!

    • @Rainyrachreads
      @Rainyrachreads 3 года назад +77

      I’m with you!! If Mark had chosen Deanne, then she most likely wouldn’t have reported him to the police.

    • @dianemohammed7294
      @dianemohammed7294 3 года назад +44

      After knowing what he did...still continued their relationship...exchanged rings too! Its like she didnt mind being second best to her husb and him...she couldnt handle being fully rejected

  • @angie420
    @angie420 3 года назад +339

    Kae Rae has the best speaking voice. Her words are thick, clear, and harmonious to the mind. It oddly allows my brain to process the information and story lines with ease. With comprehension comes memorization. Thanx chick!

    • @saraalbouji
      @saraalbouji 3 года назад +21

      Right. I put her on when I can't sleep

    • @buff_0292
      @buff_0292 3 года назад +2

      @@saraalbouji omg same

    • @luvmitchy
      @luvmitchy 3 года назад +8

      yes!! finally someone agrees, i usually watch crime videos and the narrator usually has a robotic and uninteresting voice and i find it hard to process the stuff they're saying and with Kendall i can easily process everything she's saying.

    • @angie420
      @angie420 3 года назад +1

      @@luvmitchy yes..im so glad someone feels me on that!

    • @aniovakimyan3258
      @aniovakimyan3258 3 года назад

      Omg yessssss

  • @Hellokittylove324
    @Hellokittylove324 3 года назад +992

    I think he 100% resented her because she couldn’t have his biological babies or at least it had something to do with it.

    • @bloodpixie777
      @bloodpixie777 3 года назад +92

      Imagine being so resented for something so dumb and you couldn't control... Like wow

    • @eldajackson1
      @eldajackson1 3 года назад +40

      And he led Rebecca to believe he couldn't have children.

    • @JadeMuray
      @JadeMuray 3 года назад +44

      That can explain why he got the nanny pregnant so fast

    • @julicezar9213
      @julicezar9213 3 года назад +13

      @@bloodpixie777 sad thing is that this really happens, i would tell him to go try to get pregnant himself

    • @tinabaygboe6879
      @tinabaygboe6879 3 года назад +17

      I mean he could’ve just divorced her no? He’s just freaking evil!!

  • @carolinafalconcordara9452
    @carolinafalconcordara9452 3 года назад +84

    I cant even describe how devastated I feel watching Donnah's smile in the videos and pictures.. Im sure she had such a warm soul and she deserved to live and to be the wonderful person and mother she clearly was meant to be.

  • @NoodlesWithLipstick
    @NoodlesWithLipstick 3 года назад +480

    Rebecca says he was the perfect husband and father, never noticed any red flags.
    Well Mark and Donna were together for 6 years with the seemingly perfect marriage so honestly I feel like given enough time Rebecca would’ve been next.

    • @M.e.g.a.n.
      @M.e.g.a.n. 3 года назад +16

      I completely agree

    • @maxielove1957
      @maxielove1957 3 года назад +4

      They were together for a while. They had 3 kids together.

    • @lizzybr5893
      @lizzybr5893 3 года назад +11

      @@maxielove1957 they was together 4 years

    • @lusomarga
      @lusomarga 3 года назад +18

      Not necessarily. I guess not until something went wrong in this 'perfect life'. Being a narcissist, i believe he wanted a perfect family and Donnah not being able to conceive his kids was in the way. There is always a question why narcissists don't ask for divorce but opt for murder. I think it has a lot to do with 'loosing face' and feeling humiliated while going through divorce, which they hate the most. In this case he disposed of his wife AND got to play the victim AND found a 'better wife'.

    • @fabulousprincess603
      @fabulousprincess603 3 года назад +4

      Yes....He would eventually snapped again

  • @angelikaperkone
    @angelikaperkone 3 года назад +337

    This is disgusting, Mark has an affair with his WIFES BEST FRIEND, and she never told Donna that Mark said he might kill Donna? Wtf I'm disgusted.

  • @BentBeautyy
    @BentBeautyy 3 года назад +687

    The bestfriend is just as much at fault! She needs to sit in a prison cell she KNEW she should have said something

    • @silver-pearl
      @silver-pearl 3 года назад +60

      Instead she was exchanging rings with him AFTER he killed Donnah.
      The only reason she came forward is because he ended up choosing Rebecca. DeAnn deserves the same place he does

    • @missincognito2666
      @missincognito2666 3 года назад +13

      100% but I’m glad she did say something he would’ve gotten away

    • @silverrain1531
      @silverrain1531 3 года назад

      Totally agree

    • @jesusisking9171
      @jesusisking9171 3 года назад +2

      Yea I'm pretty sure its called accessory to murder. But when the police need someone to help they forgive all their crimes

  • @moodylittleowl
    @moodylittleowl 2 года назад +75

    I feel so bad for everyone involved - including Rebecca. She probably felt she was supporting a grieving man and fell for him in the process :(

  • @Saf411
    @Saf411 3 года назад +561

    “She said she didn’t want to hurt Donnah” UMM YOU WERE SLEEEPING WITH HER HUSBAND 😡😡

    • @a.b.7932
      @a.b.7932 3 года назад +6

      That part pissed me off so much! She’s absolute trash!

  • @pipclip
    @pipclip 3 года назад +381

    It’s so insane that he is still standing by his narrative that he didn’t kill Donna. And I’m so happy for Rebecca and her kids that she’s doing well!

  • @barkingmad9170
    @barkingmad9170 3 года назад +455

    “I didn’t realize how powerful secrets could be.”
    REALLY, LADY? REALLY?

    • @amys6987
      @amys6987 3 года назад +28

      She’s loving her 15 minutes 🙄🙄 gross.

    • @maryanne7161
      @maryanne7161 Год назад

      I wonder which best friend is she duping now?

  • @heatherbellicourt5045
    @heatherbellicourt5045 3 года назад +312

    I’m still thinking about how they never tested the hammer for fingerprints. Just mind blowing !!!

    • @Matt_fxx
      @Matt_fxx 3 года назад +6

      I’m sure they did but you never know mark probably had gloves on, there wasn’t a drop of blood on him

    • @Lizzie-ve7kt
      @Lizzie-ve7kt 3 года назад +35

      He could’ve also easily explained away any of his own fingerprints since Mark owned the hammer. Although I completely agree they still should have tested it to see if Roger’s fingerprints were on it because if not that would’ve blown Mark’s entire story up.

    • @tessa420_
      @tessa420_ 3 года назад +5

      I’m sorry it’s the “no forced entry, Pictures of the body that were in the file for years that apparently nobody saw, and the asking for the literal gun back” negligence from the cops for me. 🤣 like that shit is 101 Crime Scene shit!

    • @juno3281
      @juno3281 Год назад +1

      @@Matt_fxx the hammer would’ve had mark’s prints on it regardless of if he did it or not since it’s his hammer. if they tested for fingerprints they would be looking for roger’s, mark literally just got lucky.

  • @lokieec.r.p.swarrior8740
    @lokieec.r.p.swarrior8740 3 года назад +161

    Cases like this just really scare me because you never 100% truly know a person. I can't imagine what Donna was thinking when the love of her life just starts hitting her with a hammer. So sorry for her mostly.

  • @beckygibney3762
    @beckygibney3762 3 года назад +651

    It wasn’t weird to the police that Mark was able to get his gun in time to catch the guy in the act when he had come off the treadmill PLUS the intruder had not brought a murder weapon? Plus the intruder had zero blood splatter? Plus Mark kept asking if they were investigating him? Incompetence!

    • @trin7346
      @trin7346 3 года назад +40

      That's exactly what I kept thinking! Did he run to grab the gun once he saw the baby alone on the bed? Or did he run and get it after he saw the man hitting her? I'm shocked if they didn't ask about this.

    • @lavinia7785
      @lavinia7785 3 года назад +30

      Thank you! Saying you had a gut feeling all along doesn't excuse your horrible police work

    • @vkvalentine9641
      @vkvalentine9641 3 года назад +14

      Yeah I was wondering when he got the gun as well. Seems like he just happened to have it in hand. It wasn't hidden or locked away that he had to go retrieve? Really weird!

    • @kerrysater157
      @kerrysater157 3 года назад +9

      I was confused about that too. He just happened to have his gun on him?

    • @sarapowell5089
      @sarapowell5089 3 года назад +24

      And also he never mentioned that he heard screaming just a "bang." Pretty sure if you were being attacked with a hammer you would be screaming.

  • @destiniecascendra8289
    @destiniecascendra8289 3 года назад +387

    You know the person's guilty when kendall says "one thing they noted about them that was weird tho"

  • @sabinadorothea
    @sabinadorothea 3 года назад +48

    Donnah's family seem to be the best people out there. So supportive and empathetic.

  • @auroraaxel5494
    @auroraaxel5494 3 года назад +366

    To be honest, I’m surprised Mark didn’t just stay with Deanne purely for the fact she knew what happened and could blow his cover any time. They’re both as bad as each other, poor Donna was murdered for her best friend and they didn’t even end up together. Deanne should have gone to the police as soon as Mark made the comments, disgusting how blinded love can make some people.

    • @georgia.5352
      @georgia.5352 3 года назад +15

      Mark is a narcissist and probally though she was fine with being the mistress and would do whatever he said

    • @bennuask2611
      @bennuask2611 3 года назад +9

      That is not love. There is no love amongst the evil. God is good, God is love. Love does no evil.

    • @misakistalker
      @misakistalker 3 года назад +1

      Mark was an idiot, he should have silenced Deanne, no one would have suspected.

    • @jsnndlz15
      @jsnndlz15 3 года назад +13

      true! But also I wonder if her knowing what happened is why he didn't stay with her. It kinda seems he didn't want anyone or anything around him that reminded him of Donna or what he did. Even going so far as pushing her mother out the picture and getting so upset about the necklace in Donna's likeness. I could see him feeling the same about Deanne. I think it was less of a guilty conscience thing and more of him wanting to immerge himself in a "reality" in which he wasn't a killer. He seems in denial even to this day about who he really is.

    • @katherinerojas5504
      @katherinerojas5504 3 года назад

      @@jsnndlz15 that’s a really good point!! And I think you’re right about that

  • @camryn7834
    @camryn7834 3 года назад +191

    Deanne is such a bad person and I don’t even think she felt bad about betraying her best friend by sleeping with her husband. I feel like she’s just jealous of Rebecca and is upset that Mark chose Rebecca over her. She should’ve gotten jail time as well.

  • @alienlizardqueen8748
    @alienlizardqueen8748 3 года назад +814

    I feel bad for Bailey's birth mother, she tried to give her daughter a better life...

    • @exitscreaming
      @exitscreaming 3 года назад +22

      Yeah , but if you look at it another way---why get pregnant in the first place if you're unable to provide for and take care of a child

    • @madisonperry5645
      @madisonperry5645 3 года назад +205

      @@exitscreaming bruh you know people have sex for fun right? You know there is no birth control that is 100% effective? What a weird ass statement

    • @exitscreaming
      @exitscreaming 3 года назад +16

      @@madisonperry5645 bruh you don't know how to have sex without getting pregnant ? What a weird ass statement

    • @Itsokay222
      @Itsokay222 3 года назад +133

      @@exitscreaming how do you know she wasn’t raped? You’re shaming someone for going thru and having a baby. Teenage girls are literally giving birth in their bathrooms and throwing their babies away because of people like you.

    • @exitscreaming
      @exitscreaming 3 года назад +8

      @@Itsokay222 No they aren't . Where did you read she was raped ? We'll wait....

  • @ragtimegals
    @ragtimegals 2 года назад +50

    This is why every death needs to be thoroughly investigated and what happened needs to be completely proven.

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS 2 года назад +4

      Same with missing persons cases too. There was this case in CA in which a mail gram was used to cover up the murder of a 16-year-old boy who vanished in 1984. The boy’s mother (who reported him missing) showed the officers that mail gram but the department closed it off as a runaway. That case would later make headlines 14 years later after a couple (making upgrades to their home’s heating ducts) found a skeleton buried in the crawl space. It turns out that the victim was the missing kid who’s lifeless body was rotting under everyone’s noses.

    • @ragtimegals
      @ragtimegals 2 года назад +2

      @@INDLIS that is so sad. What was his name? I read an amazing article by an ex NYC homicide detective that described how many suicides aren’t properly investigated and are actually murders. The cops especially don’t bother investigating old people or depressed people/addicts etc

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS 2 года назад +2

      @@ragtimegals it was Chris Denoyer, he was killed by his stepfather Jackson Villarta

  • @millykay3209
    @millykay3209 3 года назад +377

    Deanne should’ve been jailed too. At that point she was basically an accomplice.
    Not to mention withholding information.
    It’s not like she was afraid of him and that’s why she didn’t come forward with what she knew. Disgusting that she only came forward because she was jealous

    • @adegg9616
      @adegg9616 Год назад +1

      She testified agains Mark. Thats why she wasn’t prosecuted for withholding an information. Also she wasn’t interviewed during the initial investigation. So technically she didn’t withhold anything.

  • @ericac9975
    @ericac9975 3 года назад +744

    “You don’t murder someone because you’re unhappy in that relationship”
    *Chris Watts enters the chat*

    • @jayvee7482
      @jayvee7482 3 года назад +11

      @@danielasilva8765 Matt too. My ex was abusive and he physically assaulted me when I was 3 months pregnant

    • @jadebordelon770
      @jadebordelon770 3 года назад +12

      @@jayvee7482 i’m so sorry you went through that stay strong your worth sm 💗

    • @punkiefrizzy
      @punkiefrizzy 3 года назад +2

      Bruh 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @PhancyPants12
      @PhancyPants12 3 года назад +9

      @@danielasilva8765 legit was going to say Scott Peterson welcomes him with open arms.

    • @iloveyourunclebob
      @iloveyourunclebob 3 года назад +16

      And like 90% of husbands in true crime

  • @sashacn1518
    @sashacn1518 3 года назад +546

    I was just thinking this morning I miss Kendall!

  • @joeylamuel5828
    @joeylamuel5828 Год назад +8

    I am happy Roger's parents lived long enough to see their son's name cleared. I saw another piece on this case and I could see the gratitude in his mother's face. I feel though, that they should've received compensation.

  • @Steph-lf3zq
    @Steph-lf3zq 3 года назад +293

    i feel so bad for bailey’s birth mom i would’ve been like some y’all are crazy give me my kid back

    • @jordynvickers1854
      @jordynvickers1854 3 года назад +53

      Exactly this! Could you imagine placing your child up for adoption to “give them a better life” and here we are.

  • @chelsnicole5005
    @chelsnicole5005 3 года назад +500

    “You don’t murder someone because you aren’t happy in the relationship” tell that to the many women who get murdered by their husbands or boyfriends.

    • @lauralck
      @lauralck 3 года назад +45

      right... WOMEN don't murder someone because they're unhappy in the relationship. MEN do quite regularly.

    • @nateweird
      @nateweird 3 года назад +2

      what does that have to do with it?

    • @evestewart4411
      @evestewart4411 3 года назад +34

      @@nateweird a lot actually. This woman was murdered by her husband and domestic murders against women are more common than you think. We need to keep talking about this kind of this so that it happens less often

    • @jenh7417
      @jenh7417 3 года назад +15

      @@halliegeary8701 and when women do it they get significantly higher prison sentences,I just watched something about this subject today...it's really messed up

  • @bobobaby1915
    @bobobaby1915 3 года назад +240

    It’s crazy that people would rather murder than tell the truth or get a divorce like…

  • @jrb4347
    @jrb4347 3 года назад +84

    Don’t know why DeAnne was so supported in this video. I hope no one has a best friend like her ever. Sleeps with your husband who plots your murder and then exchanges forever rings with him after he kills you. She should be doing some time for sure.

  • @bakedtiffany3152
    @bakedtiffany3152 3 года назад +283

    The best friend only told cause she’s was jealous and didn’t get the life she wanted. I don’t think she felt guilty. I think she she felt heartbroken and that’s why she kept trying to take her own life.

    • @kristievans6264
      @kristievans6264 3 года назад +11

      I agree. Wonder how she feels now knowing that he was trying to have her killed from prison.

    • @aidynathome9927
      @aidynathome9927 3 года назад

      100% !!!

    • @xyz-hs9ix
      @xyz-hs9ix 3 года назад +8

      She exchanged rings with her "best friend's" husband AFTER basically knowing he murdered her. Yeah she's full of shit

  • @AS1995xo
    @AS1995xo 3 года назад +294

    Poor roger people were so quick to demonise him and use his mental health issues against him - sounded like he was struggling but he even felt bad about it and went to apologise... I hate that he was stigmatised and even in his waking life it seems like people were judgemental towards him. I have my own mental health issues so I can really empathise that part just really got to me. RIP Roger and Donnah. No sympathy for Deanne even in the interview she tried to make herself the victim.

    • @kait112
      @kait112 3 года назад +17

      I also have mental health issues and can really feel for poor Roger too. His family did not deserve to have his name dragged through the mud like that

  • @susannahspring
    @susannahspring 3 года назад +184

    Deanne is as guilty as Mark!! She would NEVER have spilled the beans if Mark had chosen her over Rebecca.
    I have absolutely no sympathy for the ‘guilt’ she says she feels.

  • @lipsticktattoos
    @lipsticktattoos 3 года назад +54

    The part for me that made him seem incredibly suspicious is how on the 911 call he mentioned shooting a man before he mentioned his wife. Obviously, everyone reacts differently, and you never know how you’d react to a situation like that but I’m pretty sure most people would lead with the info on their loved on, not a random intruder, especially as the crime scene was so gruesome. He was playing the ‘hero’ from the very beginning.

  • @wuzzap1233
    @wuzzap1233 3 года назад +214

    Are we supposed to feel bad for the bestfriend? Because we don’t.

  • @MysticHannah
    @MysticHannah 3 года назад +286

    I watch these so much that I look at my boyfriend and say “hey if you want to get a divorce in the future, that’s cool just don’t kill me” and he’s very confused

    • @jor7441
      @jor7441 3 года назад +17

      hahaha i can’t tell you how many times i’ve said the same thing!! glad someone else relates lol

    • @angm7276
      @angm7276 3 года назад +8

      I say that to my husband! Hahaha 🤣

    • @susankeltonmacquoidsmith8456
      @susankeltonmacquoidsmith8456 3 года назад +14

      Right! Lol! Thats what I'm thinking. I'll go, I may call you few names but my dog needs me.

    • @EmIndrunas
      @EmIndrunas 3 года назад

      🤣

    • @Nyquil5
      @Nyquil5 3 года назад

      LOL, I've said the same thing to hubby.

  • @erica8936
    @erica8936 3 года назад +120

    It's so beautiful how Donnah always has a smile on her face when she has the baby with her.

  • @TheJudiBambiPurrsParadox
    @TheJudiBambiPurrsParadox 2 года назад +18

    ANY time someone calling 911 hangs up immediately after telling what is the problem, that is a HUGE red flag. Anyone who really comes across something like this, and especially when people have died, AND you are all alone in the scene, you do NOT want to be all alone there...you hang on the phone knowing it is a lifeline for help. IF you REALLY want help.

  • @NoFate97
    @NoFate97 3 года назад +581

    They didn’t wonder why Roger’s note had Mark’s name and not Donnah’s? That was weird to me. Really crazy that he was able to keep the act up for so many years, and no one suspected a thing. Chilling. They’re among us, walking around like they’re normal. Fooling all of us.

    • @basiliskbones5102
      @basiliskbones5102 3 года назад +21

      Yeah it just seemed like a reminder of an invitation. Like he was saying,"Mark Winger gave me his address, and asked me to be there at this time. Don't forget"

    • @julicezar9213
      @julicezar9213 3 года назад +3

      I think it could have seem at the time that he was jealous and would do something to Mark, not Donna? That seems plausible, giving the stalking history they claimed

    • @dream-nz9yb
      @dream-nz9yb 3 года назад +11

      and the roommate heard him get a call and write down a man's name. and their neighbor heard the gunshots FIVE minutes apart. and the polaroids that nobody noticed. they just ignored all of the contradicting evidence.

    • @brittclay31497
      @brittclay31497 2 года назад +5

      @@dream-nz9yb exactly!!! Almost like they really didn’t WANT to investigate because his story literally made perfect sense. Thats literally still NO excuse at all. But yeah

    • @maryanne7161
      @maryanne7161 Год назад +2

      Also, i wonder if they checked the hammer for Roger's finger prints?

  • @max1mum0verdr1ve
    @max1mum0verdr1ve 3 года назад +349

    Kendall: "Today's case is absolutely.... nuts"
    Me: say more.....

  • @foreverPriscilla
    @foreverPriscilla 3 года назад +540

    Mark Winger is the best master manipulator i’ve ever seen, it’s terrifying.

    • @ozarkldy8117
      @ozarkldy8117 3 года назад +35

      Given her family supported him even after he axed them out of the baby's life, I was thinking the same. It is terrifying how he pulled that off.

    • @isabellind1292
      @isabellind1292 3 года назад +2

      It's odd that more isn't said about the fact that it's been reported on "Wikipedia" for some yrs he's the first-cousin of actress Debra Winger. It must be true.

  • @YAR941
    @YAR941 3 года назад +15

    I have volunteered with my Church at Women’s in distress. I have always admired this organization, so to find out that it was created in honor of Donna it makes me admire it even more. Thank you for always sharing these stories Kendall. The way you describe it make us feel like we know these people.

  • @elizabethgrogan8553
    @elizabethgrogan8553 3 года назад +186

    The fact that he was having an affair with his wife's friend is just awful. I just wish she had come forward earlier. He thought he had gotten away with murder. So many people hurt by his actions. I'm glad he's been caught.

    • @jackieb.2642
      @jackieb.2642 3 года назад +7

      Exactly I mean that’s low to cheat with a friend and it also never works out. Like if your gonna cheat than take it away from the home.

    • @silver-pearl
      @silver-pearl 3 года назад +16

      She could not have come forward earlier, she was busy exchanging rings AFTER he killed her. And she knew he killed her all this time, Heck she knew he would. She deserves to be behind bars as well.

    • @coyoter9691
      @coyoter9691 3 года назад +10

      Honestly I'm surprised he didn't try to get rid of Deann after he decided to go with the nanny instead of her. He was trying to get away with the perfect murder, and he just trusted that the woman he scorned was going to keep her mouth shut about it? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he didn't kill anyone else, but that's pretty dumb to keep that loose end out there. He tried to have her killed AFTER he went to jail. lol.

    • @keti6462
      @keti6462 3 года назад

      Jackie B. or just divorce

    • @jackieb.2642
      @jackieb.2642 3 года назад +1

      @@coyoter9691 That’s a really good point honestly.

  • @britttttt8391
    @britttttt8391 3 года назад +258

    I think it’s weird when people are like “babies are so strong” Bro it doesn’t know wtf is happening.

    • @exaggeratedswagger7485
      @exaggeratedswagger7485 3 года назад +25

      lmao “it”

    • @kaciewarren2626
      @kaciewarren2626 3 года назад +14

      I was thinking the same thing.

    • @urchocolatecake3025
      @urchocolatecake3025 3 года назад +5

      Deadass

    • @eensley95
      @eensley95 3 года назад +2

      Lmaoo

    • @theweez2557
      @theweez2557 3 года назад +20

      But "it" did suddenly lose the one person "it" had bonded with and loved, trusted more than anyone. "It" didn't know wtf was going on, yes.. didn't know why this person suddenly wasn't there anymore. Probably cried for her, longed for her yet still kept smiling & yes stayed strong.👍

  • @loveforeignaccents
    @loveforeignaccents 3 года назад +478

    Not finished yet, but how in the hell did this guy have three attractive ladies fall in love with this man? He was homely as hell.

    • @meatysheep
      @meatysheep 3 года назад +52

      typical manipulator and narcisst. They can be charming and lovely as hell

    • @isabellabrown499
      @isabellabrown499 3 года назад +4

      That’s what I was thinking the whole
      Time

    • @lilinighan6377
      @lilinighan6377 3 года назад +2

      LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • @loveforeignaccents
      @loveforeignaccents 3 года назад +10

      @@Himaryous Yeah, well apparently his inner self was much, much uglier than his appearance anyhow.

    • @Himaryous
      @Himaryous 3 года назад +4

      @@loveforeignaccents What I mean is, some people know how to be appealing apart from their bone structure. They can be charming, they may radiate sexual intensity, and so on.

  • @gexac
    @gexac 3 года назад +21

    it is so sad to see such an amazing womans life taken away from her. You just look at those home videos and can tell she was just a ray of light in every sense of the word. RIP donna < 3

  • @cealies7326
    @cealies7326 3 года назад +112

    i feel really bad for roger, he might’ve been a bit crazy but the media turned it into something bigger. He just got sucked up into all of this. Imagine being his sibling/family. Seeing the media sketch this image, i really feel bad for him