It's funny how we all have different opinions. I like the Whites shape, but that "double" welt on the MPs is really strange looking. It almost looks like squished, chewed bubble gum on this video. Like a really gummy smile. The Vibergs to my eyes have the best shape and visible quality control. I have a soft spot for the Falcons, but the Predator Orange leather is kinda meh for me when you see it next to the other boots. I love the soft toe version you have! I can imagine having a completely different opinion if they were on my feet, but in this video the Vibergs really seem to stand out as something special. Thanks for the I video!
Thanks for the comparisons. Especially the comparison of the soft toe vs. celastic toe Nick's. Have been debating between those two options for an "Americana" MTO variant. Likely go with the soft/unstructured toe.
Glad you found it helpful. I have a pair of Americanas that have a celastic toe. The toe on it is much more exaggerated due to Nicks doing a true cap toe. Still love the boot, just not the most sleek looking thing out there.
If you haven’t tried the Viberg 2040 last, I highly recommend it. It is more snug in the heel and mid foot areas and roomier in the toe box. I’m a 9.5 D/E on the Brannock scale, and an 8.5 fits perfectly. One of my most comfortable boots!
@@henryw5934u shld contact viberg directly. They reply fast and very helpful. I am 8.5 in brannock and they told me to go with 7.5. Im stil waiting for the delivery but hopefully they are right
I've also thought that such a high stitch density on the viberg stitchdown would make it weaker, as it's coming close to perforation, with so many holes so close together. I think that flanged out leather would be almost worthless in a resole, as it's so shot up with holes. Plus, who would want to resole that, if they had to reuse those holes and stitch so much? I think a welt would have to be used if you wanted a strong resole. I don't like the look of it either, I much prefer the stitch density on the Nicks.
8:15 YES i am so glad someone said this! I have a pair of Red Wing 8062 in olive mojave that just look terrible on my feet from my standing perspective. Every other angle, bussin.
Their 2030 fits me very well. I went down a half size from my Red Wing Mocs in the 23 last. The Viberg fit me better truth be told. As far as the widths go, I was under the assumption that just as the numbers shift going from US to Viberg,that hold true with respect to width. E in Viberg terms represents an average width, as does a D in US sizing. I don’t think Viberg assumes the average foot is wider in Canada for example.
People complain about the price of Vibergs, but for 20-30% more they look way nicer with both the last shape and stitching. I like Nicks, but I’m not waiting 8 months or more when I can have the nicer Vibergs immediately. Can’t go wrong with any of them though.
A key advantage of Nick's is the availability of both narrower and wider widths. I really like Viberg's more interesting leathers and wish they would make me something that would fit my 4E feet, but when I emailed them about it they made it clear that they had no interest in selling me anything that would actually fit. (White's website implies that they can also accommodate, but I've never tested them.)
Great point about sizing, wish I had mentioned that in the video. If you check out Bakers you can get custom Whites in sizing other than just D and EE so I assume if getting them directly from whites it would be the same. But I’m a D width so I never asked.
I have a pair from each of the makers and agree the Nicks toe bump looks a bit funky. I think my next pair from them will have a soft toe. All 3 companies I have no problem recommending to people. All 3 have a couple good sales every year so there's money to be saved for sure.
Nice video and sell the Vibergs they hold a good value- If they do not fit right you will never enjoy them. I have a fair amount of boots and over th years have sold to get in a bit wider, shorter or longer as I noticed if fit is not great they tend not be worn. Also a huge thing is socks...I have boots that are sized to wear with boot socks, boots sized to wear with medium thick socks and ones sized to wear with basically dress socks. Makes a big difference.
Really nice boots man. We are the same size. I’ve only been collecting since the beginning of this year. But I plan on starting to get some nicer leathers like these here.
I feel the nick’s embody the original idea of the service boot the best. They are tough, rugged, durable, and very hard wearing. Also the fact that they’re finished like a work boot works in their favor to meet the aesthetic. People have just misconstrued the idea of a dress boot in this day and age. Is there an easy way to swap the hooks out for eyelets through nicks or do I have to do the custom option?
@@JoshuaSlosser Yeah you would need to go the custom route. I don’t know if Nicks would swap them for you outside of a rebuild or something like that. But just about any cobbler can do it. There are also videos showing how to do it yourself.
Maybe to try different laces on the sausage. I kind of see potential in the idea where laces would more pronounce the lacing so there is a bigger brake between quaters and the vamp
@@colinsnexus Nah. It doesn’t bother me. I’ll eventually wear the heel cap down and get it replaced. Not worth the time to send it back to them and wait for them to fix it for me.
I wear one pair of boots throughout the week for work and really just put on whatever else I feel like at the time outside of that. The majority of the time it will be some kind of PNW boot or a pair of grant stones.
Somewhat disturbing about the Viberg's , considering their price point. Yes, they do look like sausage! I have a pair of Nick's and had to wait six months for them, but they fit and look great (they're also on the same last) . Yes, they really do look like a potato!
It's funny how we all have different opinions. I like the Whites shape, but that "double" welt on the MPs is really strange looking. It almost looks like squished, chewed bubble gum on this video. Like a really gummy smile.
The Vibergs to my eyes have the best shape and visible quality control.
I have a soft spot for the Falcons, but the Predator Orange leather is kinda meh for me when you see it next to the other boots. I love the soft toe version you have!
I can imagine having a completely different opinion if they were on my feet, but in this video the Vibergs really seem to stand out as something special.
Thanks for the I video!
Thanks for sharing the insight. If you do MTO heritage you have 23-25 leathers to choose from. (if you count some limited run choices)
I agree with you on the 2030 last. Not my favorite. The MP last on the other hand, it's amazing, IMO. Great comparisons, thank you.
Glad you liked it.
Thanks for the comparisons. Especially the comparison of the soft toe vs. celastic toe Nick's. Have been debating between those two options for an "Americana" MTO variant. Likely go with the soft/unstructured toe.
Glad you found it helpful. I have a pair of Americanas that have a celastic toe. The toe on it is much more exaggerated due to Nicks doing a true cap toe. Still love the boot, just not the most sleek looking thing out there.
If you haven’t tried the Viberg 2040 last, I highly recommend it. It is more snug in the heel and mid foot areas and roomier in the toe box. I’m a 9.5 D/E on the Brannock scale, and an 8.5 fits perfectly. One of my most comfortable boots!
Thanks for the suggestion. I’ll look into the 2040.
I am a 9 heel to toe brannock but 9.5 heel to ball, do you think i should get 8.5 or 8 on the viberg? Thanks
@@henryw5934u shld contact viberg directly. They reply fast and very helpful. I am 8.5 in brannock and they told me to go with 7.5. Im stil waiting for the delivery but hopefully they are right
I've also thought that such a high stitch density on the viberg stitchdown would make it weaker, as it's coming close to perforation, with so many holes so close together. I think that flanged out leather would be almost worthless in a resole, as it's so shot up with holes. Plus, who would want to resole that, if they had to reuse those holes and stitch so much? I think a welt would have to be used if you wanted a strong resole. I don't like the look of it either, I much prefer the stitch density on the Nicks.
8:15 YES i am so glad someone said this! I have a pair of Red Wing 8062 in olive mojave that just look terrible on my feet from my standing perspective. Every other angle, bussin.
I’ve always personally found that the whites welt looks a bit wonky
Nice comparison. All unique tones. Also good Last contrast. Different shapes. Cheers
Thanks man.
Very nicely done. Beautiful boots, too. Thank you.
For the vibergs just wear thicker socks or get a thin insole to put in them and they should fit alot better
Reall great boots! About 3 months ago I bought some Falcons in Shrunken Bison Olive. It's a great boot.
Their 2030 fits me very well. I went down a half size from my Red Wing Mocs in the 23 last. The Viberg fit me better truth be told.
As far as the widths go, I was under the assumption that just as the numbers shift going from US to Viberg,that hold true with respect to width. E in Viberg terms represents an average width, as does a D in US sizing. I don’t think Viberg assumes the average foot is wider in Canada for example.
People complain about the price of Vibergs, but for 20-30% more they look way nicer with both the last shape and stitching. I like Nicks, but I’m not waiting 8 months or more when I can have the nicer Vibergs immediately. Can’t go wrong with any of them though.
A key advantage of Nick's is the availability of both narrower and wider widths. I really like Viberg's more interesting leathers and wish they would make me something that would fit my 4E feet, but when I emailed them about it they made it clear that they had no interest in selling me anything that would actually fit. (White's website implies that they can also accommodate, but I've never tested them.)
Great point about sizing, wish I had mentioned that in the video. If you check out Bakers you can get custom Whites in sizing other than just D and EE so I assume if getting them directly from whites it would be the same. But I’m a D width so I never asked.
I'm wearing whites that are 2 different widths.
100% agree on the 2030. It's a real shame it's become their flagship last. Their anatomical options are so much more attractive and better fitting.
I love the look of the 1035. Unfortunately I have the same sizing issues with it as with the 2030.
I have a pair from each of the makers and agree the Nicks toe bump looks a bit funky. I think my next pair from them will have a soft toe. All 3 companies I have no problem recommending to people. All 3 have a couple good sales every year so there's money to be saved for sure.
Nice video and sell the Vibergs they hold a good value- If they do not fit right you will never enjoy them. I have a fair amount of boots and over th years have sold to get in a bit wider, shorter or longer as I noticed if fit is not great they tend not be worn. Also a huge thing is socks...I have boots that are sized to wear with boot socks, boots sized to wear with medium thick socks and ones sized to wear with basically dress socks. Makes a big difference.
Really nice boots man. We are the same size.
I’ve only been collecting since the beginning of this year. But I plan on starting to get some nicer leathers like these here.
Thanks for watching the video. Hope you have fun with the hobby/addiction.
@@aChannelAboutBoots 🤣 thanks man you too!
Great video and best of luck with the channel!
Glad you liked it. Thanks.
Awesome I literally just ordered the same leather yesterday
I feel the nick’s embody the original idea of the service boot the best. They are tough, rugged, durable, and very hard wearing. Also the fact that they’re finished like a work boot works in their favor to meet the aesthetic. People have just misconstrued the idea of a dress boot in this day and age. Is there an easy way to swap the hooks out for eyelets through nicks or do I have to do the custom option?
@@JoshuaSlosser Yeah you would need to go the custom route. I don’t know if Nicks would swap them for you outside of a rebuild or something like that. But just about any cobbler can do it. There are also videos showing how to do it yourself.
@@aChannelAboutBoots I do personally know how to do it but it would be such a cleaner job if they just came with the eyelets from the factory.
Maybe to try different laces on the sausage. I kind of see potential in the idea where laces would more pronounce the lacing so there is a bigger brake between quaters and the vamp
They're a week's wages and I think my darling would veto the purchase
The MP steals the show imo, but I'm not much of a fan of white's rolled welt
Do your MP's have the celastic toe and standard order or were they customized with the unstructured toe?
They’re not custom. The toe is structured.
You can't go wrong with either
That second pair of nicks has a wonky heel. What happened there?
Stellar PNW build quality…
@@aChannelAboutBoots really? That’s really bad. Did you reach out to them about it?
@@colinsnexus Nah. It doesn’t bother me. I’ll eventually wear the heel cap down and get it replaced. Not worth the time to send it back to them and wait for them to fix it for me.
What kind of leather is that on the Wickett and Craig?
Double stuffed buck brown
What does your typical rotation consist of?
I wear one pair of boots throughout the week for work and really just put on whatever else I feel like at the time outside of that. The majority of the time it will be some kind of PNW boot or a pair of grant stones.
Is color 8 like an oxblood color?
Yes...... "a deep brown with a reddish undertone that is almost burgundy or dark cherry"
Yeah kinda burgundy/oxblood. The actual color isn’t as bright as it shows up in the video here.
Oh ok. It does look bright in the video
@@aChannelAboutBoots what kind of leather is the Wicket and Craig?
Somewhat disturbing about the Viberg's , considering their price point. Yes, they do look like sausage!
I have a pair of Nick's and had to wait six months for them, but they fit and look great (they're also on the same last) . Yes, they really do look like a potato!
Viberg 1030 would suit u then