Rower Vs Cyclist - Who's The Fittest?

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  • Опубликовано: 22 янв 2022
  • The World Hour Record holder, a world champion rower and a GCN presenter all in one place can only mean one thing: it’s challenge time! In this clash of the titans, we’re pitting GCN auf Deutsch presenter Richie against Victor Campenaerts and Ward Lemmelijn to find out whether rowers or cyclists make for the strongest endurance athletes.
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  • @gcn
    @gcn  2 года назад +16

    Who did you think would take the win? Did any of the results surprise you?

    • @JoeyBaby47
      @JoeyBaby47 2 года назад +1

      I think swimmers are the fittest.

    • @JohnLumapaskeith
      @JohnLumapaskeith 2 года назад +1

      you guys should've started with rowing.

    • @davemellor4697
      @davemellor4697 2 года назад

      How long did each event actually last? i understood that the fastest zwift was 11.51 fastest row 5.58 and how long did the shuttle runs last? Some guy thinks you only did a maximum of seconds on the shuttle runs and rower and also zwift

    • @Star14trek
      @Star14trek 2 года назад +2

      Expected rower to do a bit better on bleep test and take the win LOL may be points should have scored on time as opposed to position? Think rower may have taken it?

    • @ViveSemelBeneVivere
      @ViveSemelBeneVivere 2 года назад

      I was surprised. I thought the rower Ward Lemmelijn would win with his pumped arms and legs, he has the perfect sprinter's physical form factor. So for a short fast cycle, rowing, then sprinting, he was outright favourite in my guesstimate.

  • @TrkJustin
    @TrkJustin 2 года назад +101

    If youre not a rower its hard to understand how fast the 2k from Ward was on the rower. Most rowers could train their whole life to get a time under 6minutes and wont be able to do it. Ward did it after a 13minute zwift race, while on a pretty low stroke rate and still feeling ok after he was done.

  • @kidsafe
    @kidsafe 2 года назад +123

    I’m impressed by how little Richie perspired during the Zwift TT. Campenaerts was like a human waterfall.

    • @toutingthomas
      @toutingthomas 2 года назад +5

      Looked like they didn't have fan!

    • @kylehagertybanana
      @kylehagertybanana 2 года назад

      he just like me

    • @baker2niner
      @baker2niner 2 года назад +7

      the more training you do, the easier and quicker the water comes out...

  • @lamboboySV
    @lamboboySV 2 года назад +174

    The most brutal part of this whole test is doing a 2k row without any rowing experience and Ward knowing the pain it causes and having to do a 2k 'just for fun'. Also 5:58 is still crazy fast.

    • @evigvandrare
      @evigvandrare 2 года назад +3

      2k is no short row, even when you're experienced! Brutal.

    • @toomuch9762
      @toomuch9762 2 года назад +3

      @@evigvandrare it is probably the worst/best exercise ever. Its torture.

    • @cibbicale1164
      @cibbicale1164 2 года назад +1

      Looked like he was going to break his spine near the end. glad he didn't, but he was definitely rowing spine first at the finish lol

    • @neji2465
      @neji2465 2 года назад +2

      5:58 is hella fast that’s a 1:29.5 split for 6 minutes

    • @the_guy_who_asked__
      @the_guy_who_asked__ 2 года назад

      A 2k test strikes fear into the hearts of rowers around the world😂. I also was surprised, how good everyone was! Not just in the indoor rowing but also in the other events.

  • @dasf89
    @dasf89 2 года назад +64

    Always love me a good cross-GCN interaction. Well done Richie and the others.

  • @rnghwdbcs
    @rnghwdbcs 2 года назад +92

    Funny thing is, the word "rower" in Polish means "bicycle" :)

  • @andythomson3379
    @andythomson3379 2 года назад +11

    Surely for an rowing simulator, the screen should be behind you?

  • @toomuch9762
    @toomuch9762 2 года назад +22

    7:22 is an excellent time for a first go at 2000m. I’ve recently bought a rower and 2000m for time is honestly the most hellish exercise ever

  • @alecbockius2742
    @alecbockius2742 2 года назад +36

    looking forward to see more from Richie on gcn. A battle with the uk presenters would be soo cool!!

  • @jonfarmer7914
    @jonfarmer7914 2 года назад +15

    It's frankly shocking that GCN pay so poorly that their presenters cannot afford shoes whilst Dan Lloyd sits in luxury and sups the sweetest beers from around the world.

  • @brody5211
    @brody5211 2 года назад +58

    I’ve run competitively , cycle most of the time now and row regularly on concept 2 -I genuinely think they are all equally as hard and very hard to call which is the hardest - however rowing 7:22 on a first go is a natural - be interesting to see what richie could do with some training

    • @cameronogilvie3364
      @cameronogilvie3364 2 года назад +1

      For someone that's already strong I don't think I'd call a 7.22 a natural

    • @GHWMR
      @GHWMR 2 года назад +9

      As someone who has been a professional rowing coach for over 20 years I say 7:22 is about what you can expect of a lightweight man who is in decent general shape but with no rowing experience.

    • @FabianBecker
      @FabianBecker 2 года назад +3

      Doing it with that poor form is definitely impressive.

    • @MrErico12345678
      @MrErico12345678 2 года назад +6

      @@GHWMR Then you have little experience with people who doesn't have talent or interrest for rowing. 7.22 is much faster than what decent shape light man does first try.

    • @brody5211
      @brody5211 Год назад

      @@MrErico12345678 exactly

  • @ryan_the_red_4907
    @ryan_the_red_4907 2 месяца назад +1

    Awesome to see elite endurance athletes crossing disciplines for fun, thanks!

  • @robbybeauchamp
    @robbybeauchamp 2 года назад +6

    I've raced my bike and also raced on the rowing erg. The 2k erg race at a big indoor regatta will take more out of you than any bike rice, and do it in under 7 minutes. No contest which one is the harder event.
    But measuring fitness of elite athletes from different sports is arbitrary at best, even when those events are fairly similar in power output/physiology required. In order to get to world class level so much specialization is required that fitness for most other activities will be sacrificed. That being said, the current E-Cycling WC is a lightweight Olympic rower who also trains on the bike.

  • @lesreed1635
    @lesreed1635 2 года назад +8

    Brilliant more of this please.I like the mention of Dan Lloyd when they were having their beer.

  • @eyelovelil
    @eyelovelil 2 года назад +5

    Great video, GCN content just keeps getting better. I love how you guys/gals are using different presenters from different areas to cover a topic it really speaks to your whole audience that everyone one is included. What an awareness of diversity. 👍🏽 👍🏽

  • @chrisridesbicycles
    @chrisridesbicycles 2 года назад +34

    Wow, good job Richie. Interesting video from start to the end. Incredible how much energy Victor can push through his body on the bike. I‘d like to see that with a GTN presenter and a professional XC skier added to the contestants.

    • @Saladh_Olivier
      @Saladh_Olivier 2 года назад +1

      Great idea actually!
      I bet a pro XC skier would win - they are just more versatile and light enough for cycling uphill, plus some incorporate rowing into their training

    • @chrisridesbicycles
      @chrisridesbicycles 2 года назад

      @@Saladh_Olivier I‘m not sure because pushing with the poles is quite a different movement from rowing. In terms of FTP and VO2max they are top notch.

  • @_PATRlCK
    @_PATRlCK 2 года назад +10

    Richieeee jetzt international! Killer

  • @prestachuck2867
    @prestachuck2867 2 года назад +2

    What a great video! Three great athletes suffering, and having fun together afterwards. All classy guys!

  • @matthewbaynham6286
    @matthewbaynham6286 2 года назад +8

    I'm surprised Ollie didn't do the rowing after all he does have some aquatic experience.

    • @rpungello
      @rpungello 6 месяцев назад

      should’ve had Connor do it, height is a big advantage in rowing.

  • @chrisbaum998
    @chrisbaum998 2 года назад +10

    It's nice to see other presenters from the different countries of GCN. We need a USA presenter!!

    • @nstrug
      @nstrug 2 года назад +1

      There is, Jeremy Powers!

    • @chrisbaum998
      @chrisbaum998 2 года назад

      @@nstrug He only does CycleCross play by play but is not a presenter like he was when he started.

  • @sosoki638
    @sosoki638 2 года назад +4

    Funny how this video was just made when I got deeply into cycling. I used to do rowing for 3 years as a teen and the last two years i got into cycling. Honestly the vo2 max from rowers are extremely high and their overall fitness is impressive.

  • @martinhayes8490
    @martinhayes8490 2 года назад +6

    Great video! A nice to see Dan Lloyd getting a ‘mineral water’ a shout out! 🤣

  • @tomm1413
    @tomm1413 2 года назад +5

    Belgium represent 😁 we're a small country, but we're proud of pur athletes!

  • @charlesphilli
    @charlesphilli 2 года назад +2

    Really enjoyed this one. There is a huge crossover between rowers and cyclists (Dr Hutch for example, James Cracknell). I tend to watch GCN videos while I’m on the concept 2, they are the perfect accompaniment and I don’t have zwift. Also, great to see GCN presenters from other countries, makes you feel part of a genuinely Global cycling network. 👍😃

  • @strangnet
    @strangnet 2 года назад +25

    I'd love to see a comparison with a cross country skier.

    • @chrisridesbicycles
      @chrisridesbicycles 2 года назад +1

      Me too. Maybe they muscles used for pushing backwards are not exactly what is needed for rowing but at least better than cyclist‘s toothpick arms.

    • @paulim8703
      @paulim8703 2 года назад

      I don't get how Roglic converted from ski jumping. Where's the parallel there?

    • @invisiblescout6335
      @invisiblescout6335 2 года назад +1

      there isn't much except full body explosive power, flexibility (easier to get aero) and having low body fat. Roglič just had insane natural predispositions for cycling and was in good shape from running every morning since he was a kid. He did his first VO2 test in 2012 after probably less than 5000 Km on a bike and did 81,6 ml/kg/min and 7,14 w/kg at 64 kg

  • @lindabodewes7824
    @lindabodewes7824 2 года назад +7

    Got to love the exact diction of someone speaking English as their second language.

    • @MrLuigi-oi7gm
      @MrLuigi-oi7gm 2 года назад +2

      @Richard weinzheimer Your English is incredible! Bravo! 👏👏👏 Also, great job on this video and in the competition. Hope we see more of your work on this GCN channel. 👊👍

  • @NikolausLim
    @NikolausLim 2 года назад +13

    That Ward guy' arms are bigger than Rich' and Vic' legs combine...😬

  • @richcrompton6891
    @richcrompton6891 2 года назад +3

    What a great video. Well done Richie, when I saw you without shoes on the final challenge, I thought we were about to see a winner! So glad for the outcome though. Very honourable ending.
    Made me want to get the connectivity module for my old Waterrower!

    • @richcrompton6891
      @richcrompton6891 2 года назад +1

      @Richard weinzheimer Victor and Ward looked more gone on the bleep test! For a first ever row, your time was awesome!

  • @General_Crock
    @General_Crock 2 года назад +12

    If a top cyclist takes off their shirt at the beach everybody laughs. If a top rower takes off their shirt at the beach everybody goes googly eyed. 'Nuff said.

    • @stefanba2029
      @stefanba2029 2 года назад +2

      That's why I do both. And swim. I also run and do weight training as well.

  • @oranjetoeters1
    @oranjetoeters1 2 года назад +11

    Seriously impressive by Richard.

  • @GrouEEf
    @GrouEEf 2 года назад +22

    Victor just couldn't get airo enough when rowing.

  • @aho4fun
    @aho4fun 2 года назад +2

    Sehr gut Richie...gerne gesehen, keep up the good work, respect to Victor and Ward.

  • @coachg4810
    @coachg4810 2 года назад +1

    Love this, reminds me of Superstars, a UK tv show from years ago, really needs to come back with international athletes!

  • @ViveSemelBeneVivere
    @ViveSemelBeneVivere 2 года назад +6

    Dan would have won the beer competition if it had been part of the challenge. 🍻

  • @biglegcatluvr
    @biglegcatluvr 2 года назад +15

    Richie absolutely snapped, 7ish mins on the row and the mad beep test. I feel like has high potential in rowing if he did that row completely untrained.

  • @Chreeeys
    @Chreeeys 2 года назад +2

    Nice to see Richi on this channel as well!

  • @ericlanegen
    @ericlanegen 2 года назад +13

    The description of the pacer test had me dying laughing because it made me realize how ridiculous a whole gym class doing it looks

    • @vivek_v
      @vivek_v 2 года назад

      Was thinking the same 💀

  • @christianklein446
    @christianklein446 2 года назад

    Richard, du geile Sau. Geile Show, geile Performance. Weiter so. Macht Spaß dir zuzuschauen 👌🏼

  • @JensiW79
    @JensiW79 2 года назад +6

    Yeahhh Richieee goes international :) Good Job!

  • @martincornish1737
    @martincornish1737 2 года назад +16

    Great video once again, and wel done to all who took part. Just out of curiosity, what were the final results for the shuttle run test, ie, how far did each person get in terms of levels?

  • @jasonchubb8604
    @jasonchubb8604 2 года назад +2

    Best gcn video in ages

  • @srolchi
    @srolchi 2 года назад +12

    Hope to see Richie in more videos of the main channel. He is doing a great job! 👍

  • @markricketts6957
    @markricketts6957 2 года назад +32

    7.22 for an absolute beginner is impressive. For the first time on the erg his form was not bad either.

  • @jofitness9373
    @jofitness9373 2 года назад

    Richie‘s accent is so German. His English is really good though! It‘s cool you had him on here:) Nice video, I always enjoy discipline comparisons

  • @Dramboli
    @Dramboli 2 года назад +7

    On these levels you can only be on the top in one sport, since every sport is very specific…
    Jason Osborne did a lot of cycling during his rowing career, much more than most of the rowers do.
    But rowing gives you a massive engine and it‘s easy to adapt for cycling - the other way around is quite hard as you need some years to get a very good technique which is needed.

    • @paulim8703
      @paulim8703 2 года назад

      Surely road racing has a lot of technique too? Descending, bunch riding, climbing, sprinting, TT position, timing. You might not need much on Zwift, but real life is quite different!

    • @Dramboli
      @Dramboli 2 года назад +1

      @@paulim8703 yes you are right. Specially TT is a discipline for it‘s own.
      I think the difference is just that you sometimes see cycling pros with some bad skills already in a pro team, like Michael Woods for example, he had some bad descending skills.
      In rowing you have have more ore less one technique, but if it‘s no very good, you don’t even get the chance to start at a worldcup.
      Also most of the people can already ride a bike more ore less but not the other way around.

    • @the_shadow_11
      @the_shadow_11 6 месяцев назад

      Cycling is actually one of the most common cross-training exercises for rowers to do. It's true all the way from club level to international competition.

  • @stiffjalopy4189
    @stiffjalopy4189 2 года назад +3

    Why limit to indoors? Race on bikes to the boathouse, and then get on the river!
    Then we’d get the added bonus of seeing which cyclist is the best swimmer…

    • @gcn
      @gcn  2 года назад +2

      It's Ollie.

    • @stiffjalopy4189
      @stiffjalopy4189 2 года назад +1

      Vids or it didn’t happen.

  • @jigglypuff4227
    @jigglypuff4227 2 года назад

    Super gemacht Richie :)!

  • @tomb2289
    @tomb2289 2 года назад

    Some big efforts there, good work lads. Time to make Duvel my recovery drink of choice for sure 🍻

  • @MrMattie725
    @MrMattie725 Год назад

    On Belgium television they did a competition with all kinds of sports. Endurance, power, coordination, ... Ward won both the student and prof ranking :D
    This was against Van Der Poel, Evenepoel, Campenaerts, Declerq, Van Aert, Koppecy, D'Hoore...and numerous non cyclists.

  • @thefucrew9865
    @thefucrew9865 2 года назад +1

    This was an AMAZING contest, with AWESOME contestants !!!
    Thank you, Gentlemen !!!

  • @askmeaboutmattweiner
    @askmeaboutmattweiner 2 года назад +2

    5k erg would probably have been a better test of aerobic capacity. The cyclists did it like an intensity cardio effort and the rower did it like the long anaerobic sprint that it is.

    • @engineerjmd3
      @engineerjmd3 2 года назад +1

      Agreed, the 2k still has a large pure power component. The 5k is long enough you can't ride that pure power (anerobic) output. But it aligns with a shorter 9k bike element, which is a sprint effort as well.

  • @bryanqueme996
    @bryanqueme996 2 года назад

    That was a great video!

  • @benpereira8431
    @benpereira8431 2 года назад +3

    Great vid, but what were the stats on the bleep test please? Loved the fact he ran it barefoot!

  • @kieransweeney6010
    @kieransweeney6010 2 года назад +2

    As an overweight (working on it) newbie cyclist im happy to see i can row a faster 2k than Victor..... Gives me more confidence on the bike fore sure

  • @nstrug
    @nstrug 2 года назад +3

    Have a bunch of ex-rowers in our club and can confirm they are beasts.

  • @proximityroars5149
    @proximityroars5149 2 года назад

    A lot of fun watching

  • @nielswillems967
    @nielswillems967 2 года назад +1

    That rower is an absolute beast

  • @kylehagertybanana
    @kylehagertybanana 2 года назад

    Richie is great! more of him!

  • @bleckb
    @bleckb 2 года назад

    Greta to see some of the other presenters and a great challenge!

  • @Sandro-lj3tu
    @Sandro-lj3tu 2 года назад +1

    Starke Leistung Richie

  • @gimmethatbuff9582
    @gimmethatbuff9582 2 года назад +10

    Gute Arbeit Richie läuft ja fast besser als auf Deutsch ;D

    • @TheKen712
      @TheKen712 2 года назад

      @Richard weinzheimer Neee, schön hier geblieben Kollege! ;)

    • @sportbootjo
      @sportbootjo 2 года назад

      @Richard weinzheimer Das ist ein Problem in Deutschland: Die Besten wandern aus ;-)

  • @MrPilberg
    @MrPilberg 2 года назад

    Tolles Video Richie!
    Can you please do a review of the oreka O5 in English please? I can’t find one anywhere

  • @martinbacon847
    @martinbacon847 2 года назад +3

    I haven’t looked yet, but my experience says the rower is the fittest.

  • @Evil2born
    @Evil2born 2 года назад +2

    EXR is King... ♥️

  • @swites
    @swites Месяц назад

    Ward must be pulling some incredible strength through that rowing machine considering his stroke rate isn't that high.

  • @shamancredible8632
    @shamancredible8632 2 года назад

    I liked this channel more several years ago when I went to college before someone stole my bike

  • @mrworldwide1213
    @mrworldwide1213 2 года назад +12

    Lightweight rowers are pretty much cyclists with biceps

    • @Aeronwor
      @Aeronwor 2 года назад +1

      But biceps are not aero.

    • @liamkaloy
      @liamkaloy 2 года назад +1

      no, completely different set of skills (and muscles) is needed for rowing and for cycling.

    • @mrworldwide1213
      @mrworldwide1213 2 года назад

      @@liamkaloy no shit

    • @jordanmeanes4464
      @jordanmeanes4464 2 года назад

      @@liamkaloy Not really, quads, glutes and big lungs, hence rowers make such good cyclists.

    • @stiffjalopy4189
      @stiffjalopy4189 2 года назад

      Lol lighties have biceps.

  • @zacschiff5082
    @zacschiff5082 2 года назад

    I LOVE GCN and liked this video but you all NEVER give us enough data! Please tell us how many watts they averaged on the zwift ride at least! (and if I really had my DRUTHERS, we'd also know their heart rates, but I know that's probably a bridge too far.) THE DATA IS WHAT REALLY HAS MEANING! Thank you for the vids you all are terrific!!!!

  • @Star14trek
    @Star14trek 2 года назад +3

    Just imagine Olie doing the rowing or running challenge..... Would be nice to what Hank/Sie/Conner/Olie/Lloyd times would be? Next Vid?

  • @andrewcarter761
    @andrewcarter761 2 года назад

    Fantastic video!

  • @ili4707
    @ili4707 2 года назад +4

    Richie: How do you run Barefoot!?!

  • @JoHaNnEsKuX
    @JoHaNnEsKuX 2 года назад

    Danke Richie!

  • @Heretic84
    @Heretic84 2 года назад +3

    Rowing is beautiful fitness training.

  • @aliancemd
    @aliancemd 2 года назад +2

    Before even watching this, it's the rower - it's a full body workout basically.

    • @JamieSmith-fz2mz
      @JamieSmith-fz2mz 2 года назад +2

      I do both. 40 minutes on my single scull is 100x worse than anything I can do in 40 minutes on the bike. But it’s my Nordic skis might be the hardest thing I do.

    • @wenttogloucester
      @wenttogloucester 2 года назад +1

      Skate-skiing, heart-attack country...

  • @afterthesmash
    @afterthesmash Год назад

    8:24 Epic chain flutter!

  • @angela-onesroman8873
    @angela-onesroman8873 2 года назад

    Great job I gotta say !

  • @wojciechjasiak5572
    @wojciechjasiak5572 2 года назад +1

    fun fact: in polish "rower" means "bicycle", so I've had to take a moment to understand what this clip is about :D

  • @captainmidnight4262
    @captainmidnight4262 2 года назад +2

    Me = Hears beep test.
    Also Me = *Flashbacks to Vietnam.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  2 года назад +1

      Do kids even still do the bleep test? Ours was on a cassette...

    • @captainmidnight4262
      @captainmidnight4262 2 года назад +1

      @@gcn I asked my nephew...they still do apparently. Probably done via a phone app these days.

  • @NanoDex
    @NanoDex 2 года назад

    Everytime I drink a Duval I RIP you guys are tough!

  • @D4D22
    @D4D22 2 года назад

    Was the bike event weight adjusted? The rower did some crazy watts.

  • @123oner2
    @123oner2 2 года назад

    Great stuff

  • @mlbody1234
    @mlbody1234 Год назад

    Throwing in a skierg element would also be am interesting addition.

  • @hafizsali184
    @hafizsali184 2 года назад

    Just wanted to ask, what if you put helium inside your wheels will it make the bike slightly lighter or no?

    • @benmccomb9155
      @benmccomb9155 2 года назад +1

      It would leak out of your tires quickly since it is such a small molecule

  • @douglaspate9314
    @douglaspate9314 2 года назад

    How good was that!

  • @galenkehler
    @galenkehler 2 года назад

    Ward putting out some big numbers on Zwift, must be a big boy weight wise!

  • @SimsH1985
    @SimsH1985 2 года назад

    What a monster that Ward!

  • @markhaneklaus282
    @markhaneklaus282 2 года назад

    watching ward on the bike makes me buy a "Ridley" frame - it will last forever

  • @alvinmu6284
    @alvinmu6284 2 года назад

    That's the fitnessgram pacer test. OMG hahaha

  • @Bradbajc
    @Bradbajc 2 года назад

    What app was used for the row machine?

  • @nitrokyle5
    @nitrokyle5 2 года назад

    This is awesome.

  • @novids4you
    @novids4you 2 года назад

    Good job Richie :)

  • @Josh_Roberts
    @Josh_Roberts Год назад

    Rowers are a whole new level of strength

  • @Jonislol
    @Jonislol 2 года назад

    This was cool.

  • @joekalipso
    @joekalipso 2 года назад

    Great video Richie Auf Deutch

  • @will44bott
    @will44bott 2 года назад

    Wicked video!

  • @Calum_S
    @Calum_S 2 года назад +2

    I can only assume it was visa issues that stopped Lloydy taking part.

  • @Mdgfievf
    @Mdgfievf 2 года назад +2

    Would have been a better comparison getting a lightweight rower like Jason Osborne

    • @jordanmeanes4464
      @jordanmeanes4464 2 года назад

      I was thinking the same thing. Interesting they chose the hilly route for the cycle as well.

  • @cdcaterham
    @cdcaterham 2 года назад +3

    Had to watch the bit where the rower was explaining how to use the rowing machine about 50 times.... purely for educational purposes of course...😂

    • @shuycg
      @shuycg 2 года назад

      His rough accent goes well with his phisique.

  • @mattao01
    @mattao01 2 года назад

    this presenter is way too good wtf

  • @callumthorsen5474
    @callumthorsen5474 2 года назад +3

    The rower should have Done 7m 20 haha just need to win for 3 points save every for shuttle run