Great vid Nathan. No idea why the algorithm put it in my feed (72 year old bloke that doesn’t live in London). But I still enjoyed it and you even made me chuckle. Thanks.
1:18 This is a big disadvantage. Many bus users are visually impaired (possibly because they can't see well enough to drive) so the display needs to be bright enough so that we can see which number of bus is coming in good time.
eu laws stipulate new buses must have maximum light limits, thats why displays and even headlights are duller. yes i know we have left the eu, but it will take years to remove them from statu books.
I have just been to Agadir Marocko and the line number was almost impossible to see on the buses. Everything else was also pretty tatty if you ask me but dead cheap. 35 pence. The trams in Casablanca on the other hand was just excellent in every way just like trams in Marrakesh.
@@jonathanpringle8238you think producers will make special stuff for UK only. Good luck. Do you today get every car model right hand drive? Before you were part of rule making now you are only follow the rules by others. The stuff you will get if specially made for UK will be less quality, why stick to good EU quality if you can save money on lower unsafe UK quality. 😂
I don't have any vision problems at all, but get the bus at night sometimes. It's so hard to see if i'm flagging the right bus until its almost passed me. Also this bus is a 24 hour service, and I can hardly ever read the number at anytime of day.
Great presentation style Nathan - you are a natural at this - your personality shines through very well. I think this is just the start of your career!
Yes, better than most professional motor journalists. More images of the bus features and less of Nathan would be good (no offence to Nathan) but otherwise excellent.
A lot of BYD buses in the Netherlands spend more time in the garage than on the road. But they're generally the lowest bidder, so they get the contracts.
Odd that your video turned up in my feed, although I do follow Geoff Marshall and Jago Hazzard, so that might be a reason! Nevertheless this was a really nice review with a natural style. I hope your channel grows nicely.
Kind of the opposite of the "Routemaster" redesigned buses that look really cool on the outside, but are horrible, cramped and uncomfortable on the inside.
Like many others have commented I have no idea why this appeared in my feed, but I’m so pleased it did. 😊 When I was fourteen I used to hang around London Transport garages and bus stations noting down every bus I’d see in my notebook. Every so often I’d have to go through my Ian Allen books and cross out the numbers I’d “collected”. I’ll be seventy soon and you reminded me of my teenage passion, specially with the quality of your delivery and the obvious passion you have for the subject. I’m now subscribing to your channel. Bravo and thank you!
This popped up randomly in my feed, no idea why, but found it interesting and enjoyable! I very rarely use buses as I don't live in that London, living in.s small town with a poor bus service. The last time I was on a bus I noticed it had vertical protection bars on sides on the front top window to protect it from branches. I wonder if the crack in the window was caused by a branch and having some protection bars would benefit (it might spoil the appearance, but it's a bus not a Ferrari)? Also amused by the comment about getting on a 40mph road like it's some space age light speed! Out in the sticks going at 40mph would be considered being in a traffic jam! :) I know EVs seem to attract very polarised views, and I try and keep an open mind and can see pros and cons. For buses they do seem to make sense as they have fixed journeys with a depot they can charge up at,, and stop a lot when being driven. Anyone who's been near the tail-pipe of diesel bus can smell the nasties come out of it, so the reduction in pollution is surely a good thing. My only thought is are they loud enough to be heard coming? So many Londoners on bikes or on foot seem to be oblivious to vehicles around them (immersed on their phone or earbuds), so they need something noisy to get them out of their bubble.
Most roads in London have a 20mph speed limit and the traffic is so bad here you'd be lucky to even reach that in certain parts. So yeah 40mph is like a space age light speed to us lol. Then again Biggin Hill is only barely in London, go any further than that and you're in Kent.
@@grahamjohnson4702 yes, now I look again I can see the a bar. It doesn't seem to be very proud of the body, particularly with the curvature of the screen though; so can see branches still hitting the windscreen. Mind you, other things can cause windscreens to crack, including poor fitting.
Popped up in my feed. An excellent and enthusiastic report - thanks for the time which you invested, which I (for one) appreciate. Dim displays do not help visually-weakened passengers (surely, just turn up the dim-ness??) but no tree-bars on the top front left seems short-sighed. The weight shown at 4:03 - FOURTEEN TONNES?? Heaven help the roads of London. An original Routemaster was less than eight tons.
who cares what they are like on the outside its the inside that counts and they have failed, they have designed a bus for the designers, fully able bodied adult men about 5'10 and it shows, these things are not designed with children/short people, pushchairs, disabled, elderly, women, those carrying heavy or bulky bags, or frankly the obese in mind. this is a bus for healthy slim men not carrying anything.
Nice video I live on this route, and these are a massive improvement over their predecessors, the older ones of which would often struggle to get up the rather steep hills along the route. This bus takes them with ease. One significant thing you've missed is that these busses have working heating, which again is a massive improvement. This past weekend I bussed it back to Biggin Hill from Heathrow - the SL7 was cold, the SL5 was absolutely freezing, so it was a joy getting on the 320 which was at a nice reasonable temperature.
Looking forward to more.. I nether in a million years would have watched a video about ( something ) as mundane as review of A Bus But Nathan, YOU MADE IT ENGAGING you are very Gifted person ..
Nathan you are doing a good job here, as someone who has been an aficionado of buses since childhood, you are spot on and your enthusiasm comes through and your detail is superb. And that's coming from someone who has published a London travelogue on Amazon. Well done.
I love a RUclips algorithm doing its thing! I thoroughly enjoyed this video and look forward to seeing more. The ‘weird’ bus ring is reminiscent of the bell on the old Routemasters, which were the standard when I was growing up. I might hop on one these buses when I get the chance just to hear the bell ring and get my nostalgia kick. 😃
The seats on the new buses do look quite nice and the whole bus inside are also nice. But the outside bit of the bus does look completely different. I can see that London are getting more battery powered buses.
Im old and stuck in my ways - if this bus looked like an old school route master or Leyland Atlantean, id be watching them all day. But gotta say the insides look fantastic, you sold that really well Nathan. Your presentation style is 👌 Hope you have a great career ahead of you
Fantastic on-the-scene opinions. You have a great presentation and seems to have good comments on the bus lines. This bus looks great and has room to improve. Thank you for this ground-level repot and details. Cheers from across the Pond.
A great review of the BYD BD11, Well done ! 👍 Worried though that BYD and other Chinese bus manufacturers will "kill off" the UK Bus industry and then hike their prices when there is no effective competition. 😥
UK bus industry? That ship sailed long before BYD was founded. We really cannot blame Chinese manufacturers for our failures and actions. We killed off our own manufacturing industry by putting profits above product and people.
Nathan, love your channel, it takes my mind of world events. I think London should bring back the trolleybuses, they could be dual mode using wiring and batteries. I remember them in Tottenaham, so guess what, I'm now an old geezer.
These are what you say battery operated trolley buses and some can be charged during the day by charge points at terminuses helping to keep them running all day, but some routes are short enough for all day without charging, variety.
Really interesting video. Used to be a massive London bus nut in the early 80s so it’s nice to find a channel talking with such passion about their modern day equivalents. Subbed
The seat nearest the river may be intentionally uncomfortable as that is the seat that is often used by drivers accompanying new drivers to the route or company; I've had some terrifying experiences in that seat! The bell annoys me because traditionally 2 dings is the bell code for go; for those of us with Routemaster and half-cab driving experience. Optare Solo's have the best bells, and when doing daily checks I used to like playing tunes with them: thank goodness the passengers never figured that one out! Nice review!
I'm jealous that there is no bus like that in the US for me to ride. I'd trade that for the '06 Gillig buses I get the "privilege" to limp along down the road. Thanks for showing me more stuff I'm missing out on.
Up north in the sticks (Yorkshire) there's no beep at all when the doors open... only the hiss of the machinery... this is the nicest bus I've seen since the Manchester V1/V2 buses.
Nice review! Another benefit of the LED lighting I found is that it's very easy on the eyes. My aunt has vertigo which is a type of dizziness and the bright lighting you see everywhere noeadays can cause her to have symptoms. So having this feature on more bus types would definitely benefit her. I've also heard it helps to stop drug use on the buses, particularly ones that require needles, since coloured lighting restricts you view of your veins. I really didn't like these buses at all when they were announced but having been on them on the 320 teice now I can say the pros heavily outweigh the cons.
First video of yours I’ve come across, love it! I like your clear diction and appreciate your attention to detail! I wonder if a double decker is more efficient for electric busses vs an electric bendy bus. Which now makes me wonder if the rolling resistance or the air drag is a bigger sap of energy on a regenerative bus
Great review. I've lived in Bromley for 25 years and until a few years ago would drive everywhere. It wasn't until my car broke down that I discovered what a great bus service we have. I've never needed to catch a 320, but I think I might go on a pleasure ride just to try it out 😂
As a bus driver for morebus (under go ahead aswell) that bus looks similar to a 2008 bus i have at my depot..... and thats kinda depressing, the 3 different bells wouldnt mean anything really.... as you still get the "wheelchair/pushchair" bell used by everyone.....
I really like this bus it looks very different and the lights inside are cool, but tonight when I was coming home I was behind it and it kinda looks dark in there with just the green lights but I've always wanted it to be dark in the bus at night so it's probably nice because the normal lights are so bright at night
The bell is reminiscent of the old routemaster bell back when they were operated by conductors, though it’s a bit weird because I’m pretty sure it was 1 x ring for stopping and 2 x rings for letting the driver know to move off! Loved this video❤
I live on the 320 route and my wife is an accessibility user. I would have liked if the builders had made space for two accessibility passengers. I do like the idea of the three bell system. Thank you for your review of this bus.
Great video. Thanks! The weak display outside would be a big deal for me as I have fairly poor vision. All the interior features require us to board the right bus first!!
i feel most the hate is down to them being chinese and not british made, given adl has been pumping out the same design for years (exluding the new enviro 400) and wright bus kinda the same (excluding the new facelift, plus switch(optare) making the same solo for over a decade, maybe we need more competition, also volvo has been pumping out some decent buses which id hope given they bought leylands bus side
That strip lighting reminds me of what Coaches have always been like. BYD and Yutong are both familiar with this, especially on the coach side of things, I like the fact they are trying to blend the experience with city travel. That is a good thing but now I am wondering if people are gonna end up sleeping in the bus more as it is more comfortable.
For me, the ventillation on a bus is important as was emphasised during the covid years, that bus you were featuring did seem to have opening windows, perfect and perhaps the heating and ventilation on board is better designed than the majority of Southampton buses at the moment where the upper deck vents are below the front window, meaning all the air blows first over the people on the front seat and then onwards back meaning that that coughing and sneezing person who always sits at the front passes their germs on to the passengers behind.
My suggestions to BYD to improve the looks, more conventional front and rear lights, extend the black area on the upper rear window down to surround the rear destination screen, and hide the rear vents. Maybe paint the red band between upper and lower front windows black, add a discrete tree deflector, and remove the tint from the front display
The crack in the window is going to very expensive replacement! The design does not factor in the possibility of tree branches growing out, or trees leaning after storms. The bus route is hilly so I assume there is some form of regen to help between charges! Your review is very informative. Great video Nathan. Have you met the bus driver from Catford garage who has a RUclips channel?
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BYD are world leader in EV buses so I am surprised they are classed as controversial. The display and brightness and formatting of what the signs/displays say are down to the end user specifications and settings and also the commissioning programme. Thank you for the video and review it was a great share. In China, BYD fleets are into 35,000 per city - In one week they delivered over 100,000 EV buses a few years ago. Each week different EV bus manufacturers were trying to outdo each other with bigger and bigger roles out of EV buses. They started with 35,000 and ended with 112,000 EV buses being roles out over the weekend mainly to the full week
1:22 the front display is not bright because the glass is tinted. Should use a separate glass for the display, rather than one piece which includes the top windscreen.
I liked your video. Just like a few other mentioned you're video just popped as a suggestion but in my case it is the type of thing I'm watching and it's probably because of the high number of comments. The bus seems nice but I'm not a fan of double decker bus as a city bus as it's restrictive for high movement of people going up/down all the time. I'm from Barcelona. Here buses have 3 doors and "bendy" buses have 4 (and a few of them 5). Another thing that is in most buses (and once the older one are replaces, in all) is an "open door" button (also works from the outside if it's a door you can use to get up, and it is possible on most buses to use the middle back door to get on the bus). Stop signs are above each door, if you press the stop button it will illuminate the stop sign above the closest door and it will automatically open). If not you can use the "open door button" to open it. When doors close there is a spoken notice before the door closing signs. Recently all the City buses got a unified info screen system (they installed them on all buses replacing the built in system) with bright clear large screens with info on the rout, estimated time to few next stops, connections and estimated arrival time of other buses at the upcoming station. The also started installing external loudspeakers on the bus for the hearing impaired announcing the bus number and direction. The seats are not as comfortable as the ones you have. I also watch an American bus driver channel and it's interesting to see the difference between different cities/countries.
The black community get a bit of a bad rap at times, probably due to bad rap but then there’s this chap, a public transport enthusiast, I love it! subscribed!
I liked your review its my first look at this electric bus . As you said the interior was vey good . The only thing I disagreed with was the outside look of it . Iwas quite happy with the way it looked . I live in Canterbury and all our buses are diesel. The amount of polution they put out must be very high . I would be very pleased to see some of these buses here
Great video of the bus and great review you gave, three protector not doing its job by looks of the cracked window, are these buses from Egypt or Chania?
Great video Nathan. A very interesting review on the BD11. I’m certainly not a fan of the exterior either and I find the interior a bit bland. I also prefer the bright lights than strip lights. The seats do look nice though.
Remember when using public charging ports use a charge only lead or adapter that has no data wire in it as if those USBs are connected on the bus other people could mess with your phone. Like the government logging the fact you was on the bus at a given time and place.
Looks like the "branch bar" is tucked too far back to do its job to me - it seems very tight in against the bus, and that cracked window screams tree damage.
This bus is much more like coach. It has all the trimmings of coaches you would ride on e.g. National Express etc. Which makes sense to me, as it is more cost effective to re-use parts across them 🤷🏾♂
People outside London: There's one bus an hour and it takes you 45 minutes for a four-mile journey. People in London: Waaah, the bus is uglyyyyyyy. My life is overrrrrrr.
you've clearly never been here, in london its supposed to be like a bus every 10 to 15 mins and you stand there waiting for over half an hour, then when one finally comes its crammed up to the door so you have to wait for the next one, and when you finally get on one traffic is terrible and your stuck in a traffic jam thinking you should have just walked instead, but your not going to get off and give up and walk now because you've already paid for that journey so damn it your gonna take it.
@ And you've clearly never been anywhere else. If you had, you wouldn't be whining about how ugly your multiple kinds of brand new buses are, because you'd realise that everyone else gets whatever seventeen-year-old thing happens to be running today.
@@FarmYard-Trains Nothing wrong with liking design. It's just the total lack of awareness of the privileged position one is in that's "funny" about videos like these. You know how Marie Antoinette gets mocked for not understanding why the starving peasants don't just eat cake? It's basically that, only without actual starving or actual peasants.
A very interesting video - thanks! I mainly use buses in Brighton and London. It is my impression that buses today are very 'jolty' - surprising as i assume that they are electric or automatic transmission ? The older 'platform' buses - i dont know the technical name - where many people would jump on and off seemed to be a smoother ride - but maybe that is my impression as i am in my eighties!!!
Great review. Personally I would politely disagree about the exterior appearance as I think it is very pleasing to look at. Maybe because I like designs by such as Van Hool with simple design. (I never really liked the Boris bus) Again, I really enjoyed your review😊
The two rows of three headlights makes it look pretty weird. It's like looking at the face of a spider or something. I do think the massive upstairs window is a mistake. It's so big that they are going to have busses driving into tree branches and chipping the high and low bits of the window that would have been solid bus on another model. So I think the percentage of upper window replacements is going to be higher than other makes of London bus. In the long term, that might increase the maintenance costs for the fleet. The innards look great. The buggy button is definitely a step up. It means the driver will pay extra attention to the side mirror to make sure the buggy is well clear of the door, before closing the door. (Compare that with the door not being pushed and the driver seeing a man or woman facing the bus and not noticing the buggy. It's much better health and safety.)
A proper bus looks and feels like an original AEC Routemaster, or a Guy Arab IV with a tin front, or a Midland Red D9. Everything else is just a modern rectangular tin box on wheels. Putting the motor at the back, without a front radiator, is a recipe for overheating and failure.
Great review, big fan of any electric bus but this one looks like it's going to be popular with passengers, drivers and the bus companies. One thing I'd like to know is how good the AC is - guess we'll have to wait till it gets warmer but would like to hear any info on this.
Great vid Nathan. No idea why the algorithm put it in my feed (72 year old bloke that doesn’t live in London). But I still enjoyed it and you even made me chuckle. Thanks.
Comments like this is why I love RUclips 👍🏾
I can hardly believe that I've just watched a video reviewing a new bus type! Very interesting, and well presented.
"If you've been tapped into what's going on in the bus world recently" what an opening line - you might be surprised to learn no but I'm intrigued
1:18 This is a big disadvantage. Many bus users are visually impaired (possibly because they can't see well enough to drive) so the display needs to be bright enough so that we can see which number of bus is coming in good time.
Also important at this time of year when buses get dirty and the displays are less clear. You need the brightness to cut through the grime.
eu laws stipulate new buses must have maximum light limits, thats why displays and even headlights are duller. yes i know we have left the eu, but it will take years to remove them from statu books.
I have just been to Agadir Marocko and the line number was almost impossible to see on the buses. Everything else was also pretty tatty if you ask me but dead cheap. 35 pence. The trams in Casablanca on the other hand was just excellent in every way just like trams in Marrakesh.
@@jonathanpringle8238you think producers will make special stuff for UK only. Good luck. Do you today get every car model right hand drive?
Before you were part of rule making now you are only follow the rules by others. The stuff you will get if specially made for UK will be less quality, why stick to good EU quality if you can save money on lower unsafe UK quality. 😂
I don't have any vision problems at all, but get the bus at night sometimes. It's so hard to see if i'm flagging the right bus until its almost passed me. Also this bus is a 24 hour service, and I can hardly ever read the number at anytime of day.
Great presentation style Nathan - you are a natural at this - your personality shines through very well. I think this is just the start of your career!
Helps that he is monumentally sexy.
I agree, he's great!
Im very impressed! I have to agree
Yep, he’s got a relaxed, informative and competent style. Should go far!
Well said, Nigel.
How did I get your video sent to my feed !!! You've taken a nerdy subject & mad it interesting. Well done Nathan.
Yes, better than most professional motor journalists. More images of the bus features and less of Nathan would be good (no offence to Nathan) but otherwise excellent.
Indeed! Earned a subscribe...
A lot of BYD buses in the Netherlands spend more time in the garage than on the road. But they're generally the lowest bidder, so they get the contracts.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing. I'm still trying to figure out BYD and their quality.
The lowest BYDder, eh?
I’m guessing spares could be an issue. It has been an issue on some Chinese EVs in the UK, especially MG.
you can be sure they will be. you can also be sure that they will make all their money back through add ons and consumable sales.
Odd that your video turned up in my feed, although I do follow Geoff Marshall and Jago Hazzard, so that might be a reason! Nevertheless this was a really nice review with a natural style. I hope your channel grows nicely.
Kind of the opposite of the "Routemaster" redesigned buses that look really cool on the outside, but are horrible, cramped and uncomfortable on the inside.
This is what you get when a clown designs a bus
I like how it looks like a bus from the 80s or 90s. Really brings back the old British vibes
Excellent video, so well presented. I’ve never seen anything from you before but based on this video have Subscribed.
Like many others have commented I have no idea why this appeared in my feed, but I’m so pleased it did. 😊 When I was fourteen I used to hang around London Transport garages and bus stations noting down every bus I’d see in my notebook. Every so often I’d have to go through my Ian Allen books and cross out the numbers I’d “collected”. I’ll be seventy soon and you reminded me of my teenage passion, specially with the quality of your delivery and the obvious passion you have for the subject. I’m now subscribing to your channel. Bravo and thank you!
This popped up randomly in my feed, no idea why, but found it interesting and enjoyable!
I very rarely use buses as I don't live in that London, living in.s small town with a poor bus service. The last time I was on a bus I noticed it had vertical protection bars on sides on the front top window to protect it from branches. I wonder if the crack in the window was caused by a branch and having some protection bars would benefit (it might spoil the appearance, but it's a bus not a Ferrari)?
Also amused by the comment about getting on a 40mph road like it's some space age light speed! Out in the sticks going at 40mph would be considered being in a traffic jam! :)
I know EVs seem to attract very polarised views, and I try and keep an open mind and can see pros and cons. For buses they do seem to make sense as they have fixed journeys with a depot they can charge up at,, and stop a lot when being driven. Anyone who's been near the tail-pipe of diesel bus can smell the nasties come out of it, so the reduction in pollution is surely a good thing. My only thought is are they loud enough to be heard coming? So many Londoners on bikes or on foot seem to be oblivious to vehicles around them (immersed on their phone or earbuds), so they need something noisy to get them out of their bubble.
Most roads in London have a 20mph speed limit and the traffic is so bad here you'd be lucky to even reach that in certain parts. So yeah 40mph is like a space age light speed to us lol. Then again Biggin Hill is only barely in London, go any further than that and you're in Kent.
If you looked at the video properly, you would notice the tree branch protection bars on this bus as well.
@@grahamjohnson4702 yes, now I look again I can see the a bar. It doesn't seem to be very proud of the body, particularly with the curvature of the screen though; so can see branches still hitting the windscreen.
Mind you, other things can cause windscreens to crack, including poor fitting.
The bell sounds like a digital sample of the old RM bells. I love it.
Popped up in my feed. An excellent and enthusiastic report - thanks for the time which you invested, which I (for one) appreciate. Dim displays do not help visually-weakened passengers (surely, just turn up the dim-ness??) but no tree-bars on the top front left seems short-sighed. The weight shown at 4:03 - FOURTEEN TONNES?? Heaven help the roads of London. An original Routemaster was less than eight tons.
BYD needs to stay away from body design, it's just like something designed by a 5-year-old.
Same for Tesla
To be honest, the bus does look like a toy. It just looks like plastic especially the front.
There's some BYD buses which look better that we have near Sutton but yeah I saw this near Barking and I was like ?? Are we in the 90s again
who cares what they are like on the outside its the inside that counts and they have failed, they have designed a bus for the designers, fully able bodied adult men about 5'10 and it shows, these things are not designed with children/short people, pushchairs, disabled, elderly, women, those carrying heavy or bulky bags, or frankly the obese in mind. this is a bus for healthy slim men not carrying anything.
It’s likely that TFL were involved in that and gave direct instruction. If you look at BYD buses in Asia they are different.
Nice video
I live on this route, and these are a massive improvement over their predecessors, the older ones of which would often struggle to get up the rather steep hills along the route. This bus takes them with ease.
One significant thing you've missed is that these busses have working heating, which again is a massive improvement. This past weekend I bussed it back to Biggin Hill from Heathrow - the SL7 was cold, the SL5 was absolutely freezing, so it was a joy getting on the 320 which was at a nice reasonable temperature.
I didn't know there were bus geeks, but I love it.the enthusiasm
Looking forward to more..
I nether in a million years would have watched a video about ( something ) as mundane as review of A Bus
But Nathan, YOU MADE IT ENGAGING you are very Gifted person ..
Nathan you are doing a good job here, as someone who has been an aficionado of buses since childhood, you are spot on and your enthusiasm comes through and your detail is superb. And that's coming from someone who has published a London travelogue on Amazon. Well done.
I love a RUclips algorithm doing its thing! I thoroughly enjoyed this video and look forward to seeing more.
The ‘weird’ bus ring is reminiscent of the bell on the old Routemasters, which were the standard when I was growing up. I might hop on one these buses when I get the chance just to hear the bell ring and get my nostalgia kick. 😃
The seats on the new buses do look quite nice and the whole bus inside are also nice. But the outside bit of the bus does look completely different. I can see that London are getting more battery powered buses.
Yeah it's like two different buses
The new bus is somehow also my school bus.
Indeed.
Frankenstein's forehead.
I think we found a nickname for this bus😅
Im old and stuck in my ways - if this bus looked like an old school route master or Leyland Atlantean, id be watching them all day. But gotta say the insides look fantastic, you sold that really well Nathan. Your presentation style is 👌
Hope you have a great career ahead of you
Fantastic on-the-scene opinions. You have a great presentation and seems to have good comments on the bus lines. This bus looks great and has room to improve.
Thank you for this ground-level repot and details.
Cheers from across the Pond.
A great review of the BYD BD11, Well done ! 👍 Worried though that BYD and other Chinese bus manufacturers will "kill off" the UK Bus industry and then hike their prices when there is no effective competition. 😥
They will
That's the worry and probably why Trump is intending to slap tarrifs on Chinese imports to protect the domestic industries.
@@keithhardy8513Well done President Trump..
UK bus industry?
That ship sailed long before BYD was founded.
We really cannot blame Chinese manufacturers for our failures and actions.
We killed off our own manufacturing industry by putting profits above product and people.
That's right ! 😢
I was a bus spotter in the 70s .
Now it's a thing 😂
Nathan, love your channel, it takes my mind of world events.
I think London should bring back the trolleybuses, they could be dual mode using wiring and batteries.
I remember them in Tottenaham, so guess what, I'm now an old geezer.
These are what you say battery operated trolley buses and some can be charged during the day by charge points at terminuses helping to keep them running all day, but some routes are short enough for all day without charging, variety.
Really interesting video. Used to be a massive London bus nut in the early 80s so it’s nice to find a channel talking with such passion about their modern day equivalents. Subbed
Ok ok ok already.. .So I'll take 5 ;-))). Your enthusiasm and delivery are very engaging.. gonna watch some more vids.
The seat nearest the river may be intentionally uncomfortable as that is the seat that is often used by drivers accompanying new drivers to the route or company; I've had some terrifying experiences in that seat!
The bell annoys me because traditionally 2 dings is the bell code for go; for those of us with Routemaster and half-cab driving experience.
Optare Solo's have the best bells, and when doing daily checks I used to like playing tunes with them: thank goodness the passengers never figured that one out!
Nice review!
I'm jealous that there is no bus like that in the US for me to ride. I'd trade that for the '06 Gillig buses I get the "privilege" to limp along down the road. Thanks for showing me more stuff I'm missing out on.
I have always been a bus and coach "freak" going right back to the 1950's! I found this a very enjoyable video.
Up north in the sticks (Yorkshire) there's no beep at all when the doors open... only the hiss of the machinery... this is the nicest bus I've seen since the Manchester V1/V2 buses.
They remind me of the older style London buses - especially the grills across the back. Great video. Cheers.
HIE Nathan.. Enjoying your Vid Blogs. Live in the West Midlands. Just came across you today. 😊😅😊.. Keep it up.. Great content
Fantastic video my friend. Great work. Greetings from Czechia. 😍 BIG LIKE
Nice review! Another benefit of the LED lighting I found is that it's very easy on the eyes. My aunt has vertigo which is a type of dizziness and the bright lighting you see everywhere noeadays can cause her to have symptoms. So having this feature on more bus types would definitely benefit her. I've also heard it helps to stop drug use on the buses, particularly ones that require needles, since coloured lighting restricts you view of your veins. I really didn't like these buses at all when they were announced but having been on them on the 320 teice now I can say the pros heavily outweigh the cons.
Best feature: when you're in it, you don't have to look at it.
Cant believe they haven't fitted tree branch crash bars to that upstairs front window.
First video of yours I’ve come across, love it! I like your clear diction and appreciate your attention to detail!
I wonder if a double decker is more efficient for electric busses vs an electric bendy bus. Which now makes me wonder if the rolling resistance or the air drag is a bigger sap of energy on a regenerative bus
Dont know why this was recommended. But this is a great refreshing video
just my luck, lived on the route for 49 years, and they go and improve the 320 now I've moved away
that's unfortunate :/
It looks like an nerdy, buck-toothed beluga whale 😭
You take that back! Nathan is a handsome guy.
ahahahaha
You've met my mother in law?
Great review. I've lived in Bromley for 25 years and until a few years ago would drive everywhere. It wasn't until my car broke down that I discovered what a great bus service we have. I've never needed to catch a 320, but I think I might go on a pleasure ride just to try it out 😂
A fair and balanced appraisal. I look forward to travelling on one of these buses. Thank you for sharing.
Well I never thought I'd be commenting on a video about buses but it appeared on my page and I watched it...and enjoyed it....and subscribed too !!
I’ve not seen any of your videos before, but wow! You are so passionate about this bus that I’ve got a full on bromance crush going on now. 🥰
I miss the old days when you had Bristol VR and Leyland atlantian buses they were great 😍😍😍😍
Thanks for reviewing this one!
Just discovered your channel. Great content. Excellent presentation. 👍
As a bus driver for morebus (under go ahead aswell) that bus looks similar to a 2008 bus i have at my depot..... and thats kinda depressing, the 3 different bells wouldnt mean anything really.... as you still get the "wheelchair/pushchair" bell used by everyone.....
Optare Spectra?
I really like this bus it looks very different and the lights inside are cool, but tonight when I was coming home I was behind it and it kinda looks dark in there with just the green lights but I've always wanted it to be dark in the bus at night so it's probably nice because the normal lights are so bright at night
I do not know why RUclips invited me here, but I am glad I came.
"I'll get you, Butler! Eeree!"
The bell is reminiscent of the old routemaster bell back when they were operated by conductors, though it’s a bit weird because I’m pretty sure it was 1 x ring for stopping and 2 x rings for letting the driver know to move off! Loved this video❤
Yep, 2 bells used to be the conductor telling the driver that people have cleared the platform and it's safe to go...
(Gods I feel old!)
im so happy i found your channel
I live on the 320 route and my wife is an accessibility user. I would have liked if the builders had made space for two accessibility passengers. I do like the idea of the three bell system. Thank you for your review of this bus.
Great video. Thanks! The weak display outside would be a big deal for me as I have fairly poor vision. All the interior features require us to board the right bus first!!
i feel most the hate is down to them being chinese and not british made, given adl has been pumping out the same design for years (exluding the new enviro 400) and wright bus kinda the same (excluding the new facelift, plus switch(optare) making the same solo for over a decade, maybe we need more competition, also volvo has been pumping out some decent buses which id hope given they bought leylands bus side
That strip lighting reminds me of what Coaches have always been like. BYD and Yutong are both familiar with this, especially on the coach side of things, I like the fact they are trying to blend the experience with city travel.
That is a good thing but now I am wondering if people are gonna end up sleeping in the bus more as it is more comfortable.
This electric bus appears to be a re-make of the 9mile style bus, "Dennis Dominators" that we had in the 90's running route 97 in Waltham Forest.
That was exactly my thought, looks like they've gone for a "retro" design based on some of the 80s and 90s rolling rectangles.
I have to say I like the looks - they're kinda retro which is fun
For me, the ventillation on a bus is important as was emphasised during the covid years, that bus you were featuring did seem to have opening windows, perfect and perhaps the heating and ventilation on board is better designed than the majority of Southampton buses at the moment where the upper deck vents are below the front window, meaning all the air blows first over the people on the front seat and then onwards back meaning that that coughing and sneezing person who always sits at the front passes their germs on to the passengers behind.
My suggestions to BYD to improve the looks, more conventional front and rear lights, extend the black area on the upper rear window down to surround the rear destination screen, and hide the rear vents. Maybe paint the red band between upper and lower front windows black, add a discrete tree deflector, and remove the tint from the front display
The crack in the window is going to very expensive replacement! The design does not factor in the possibility of tree branches growing out, or trees leaning after storms. The bus route is hilly so I assume there is some form of regen to help between charges! Your review is very informative. Great video Nathan. Have you met the bus driver from Catford garage who has a RUclips channel?
these busses have the metal bar that others do to deal with tree branches, so that _has_ been factored into the design
Went to Bromley South Station on Saturday the 11th to get a few photos of them. They look okay in person
I do agree, the photos before they came into service were not doing it any favours
I'm a 70yr old bloke, Got out of the Smoke, as soon as I could, But humans miss their roots, Please don't Stop Joining the Dots between people, We need it more than ever,
BYD are world leader in EV buses so I am surprised they are classed as controversial.
The display and brightness and formatting of what the signs/displays say are down to the end user specifications and settings and also the commissioning programme.
Thank you for the video and review it was a great share.
In China, BYD fleets are into 35,000 per city - In one week they delivered over 100,000 EV buses a few years ago.
Each week different EV bus manufacturers were trying to outdo each other with bigger and bigger roles out of EV buses.
They started with 35,000 and ended with 112,000 EV buses being roles out over the weekend mainly to the full week
The windscreens are tinted
This is an excellent video, love your attention to detail!
Thanks, it was fun to make!
I'm never likely to ride on a London bus but I still found this interesting, thank you.👍
1:22 the front display is not bright because the glass is tinted. Should use a separate glass for the display, rather than one piece which includes the top windscreen.
Great new channel - real expertise.
I might have travelled on a BYD Bus without realising it. Do you know which route numbers are served by BYD? Thanks for the video.
I liked your video. Just like a few other mentioned you're video just popped as a suggestion but in my case it is the type of thing I'm watching and it's probably because of the high number of comments.
The bus seems nice but I'm not a fan of double decker bus as a city bus as it's restrictive for high movement of people going up/down all the time.
I'm from Barcelona.
Here buses have 3 doors and "bendy" buses have 4 (and a few of them 5).
Another thing that is in most buses (and once the older one are replaces, in all) is an "open door" button (also works from the outside if it's a door you can use to get up, and it is possible on most buses to use the middle back door to get on the bus).
Stop signs are above each door, if you press the stop button it will illuminate the stop sign above the closest door and it will automatically open). If not you can use the "open door button" to open it.
When doors close there is a spoken notice before the door closing signs.
Recently all the City buses got a unified info screen system (they installed them on all buses replacing the built in system) with bright clear large screens with info on the rout, estimated time to few next stops, connections and estimated arrival time of other buses at the upcoming station.
The also started installing external loudspeakers on the bus for the hearing impaired announcing the bus number and direction.
The seats are not as comfortable as the ones you have.
I also watch an American bus driver channel and it's interesting to see the difference between different cities/countries.
The black community get a bit of a bad rap at times, probably due to bad rap but then there’s this chap, a public transport enthusiast, I love it! subscribed!
Great content new Sub. I great when saw photos was ugly when see video surprise! Looks great on Go Ahead London
Interesting video. Well done mate. 👍
Discovered this! Great channel
Thanks. I like the detail and enthusiasm. One question… bus interiors often rattle. I wondered what this one was like.
good stuff mate, thanks 👍
I'm from the times when the 176 was green and the 12 went to Croydon! I do feel like I have a secret bus nerd inside of me lol
I liked your review its my first look at this electric bus . As you said the interior was vey good . The only thing I disagreed with was the outside look of it . Iwas quite happy with the way it looked . I live in Canterbury and all our buses are diesel. The amount of polution they put out must be very high . I would be very pleased to see some of these buses here
The dim display for the blind is definitely a DDA issue. Something is gonna have to be done about that.
Great video of the bus and great review you gave, three protector not doing its job by looks of the cracked window, are these buses from Egypt or Chania?
Great video Nathan. A very interesting review on the BD11. I’m certainly not a fan of the exterior either and I find the interior a bit bland. I also prefer the bright lights than strip lights. The seats do look nice though.
Nice one bro, I do like the design on this bus to be honest. It is quite cool looking and not overly modern. 1:57 I agree with this!
Doesn't sound like the bus was properly tested. Thank you for the review very interesting 👌🙏
Remember when using public charging ports use a charge only lead or adapter that has no data wire in it as if those USBs are connected on the bus other people could mess with your phone. Like the government logging the fact you was on the bus at a given time and place.
Very interesting and informative review 😁👍
Looks like the "branch bar" is tucked too far back to do its job to me - it seems very tight in against the bus, and that cracked window screams tree damage.
This bus is much more like coach. It has all the trimmings of coaches you would ride on e.g. National Express etc.
Which makes sense to me, as it is more cost effective to re-use parts across them 🤷🏾♂
People outside London: There's one bus an hour and it takes you 45 minutes for a four-mile journey.
People in London: Waaah, the bus is uglyyyyyyy. My life is overrrrrrr.
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you've clearly never been here, in london its supposed to be like a bus every 10 to 15 mins and you stand there waiting for over half an hour, then when one finally comes its crammed up to the door so you have to wait for the next one, and when you finally get on one traffic is terrible and your stuck in a traffic jam thinking you should have just walked instead, but your not going to get off and give up and walk now because you've already paid for that journey so damn it your gonna take it.
@ And you've clearly never been anywhere else. If you had, you wouldn't be whining about how ugly your multiple kinds of brand new buses are, because you'd realise that everyone else gets whatever seventeen-year-old thing happens to be running today.
the implication that having a preference for a bus design is somehow outlandish is what i find funniest about comments like these
@@FarmYard-Trains Nothing wrong with liking design. It's just the total lack of awareness of the privileged position one is in that's "funny" about videos like these. You know how Marie Antoinette gets mocked for not understanding why the starving peasants don't just eat cake? It's basically that, only without actual starving or actual peasants.
A very interesting video - thanks! I mainly use buses in Brighton and London. It is my impression that buses today are very 'jolty' - surprising as i assume that they are electric or automatic transmission ? The older 'platform' buses - i dont know the technical name - where many people would jump on and off seemed to be a smoother ride - but maybe that is my impression as i am in my eighties!!!
Thank You Nathan
Great review. Personally I would politely disagree about the exterior appearance as I think it is very pleasing to look at. Maybe because I like designs by such as Van Hool with simple design. (I never really liked the Boris bus) Again, I really enjoyed your review😊
The two rows of three headlights makes it look pretty weird. It's like looking at the face of a spider or something.
I do think the massive upstairs window is a mistake. It's so big that they are going to have busses driving into tree branches and chipping the high and low bits of the window that would have been solid bus on another model. So I think the percentage of upper window replacements is going to be higher than other makes of London bus. In the long term, that might increase the maintenance costs for the fleet.
The innards look great. The buggy button is definitely a step up. It means the driver will pay extra attention to the side mirror to make sure the buggy is well clear of the door, before closing the door. (Compare that with the door not being pushed and the driver seeing a man or woman facing the bus and not noticing the buggy. It's much better health and safety.)
Great presentation Nathan 👍
A proper bus looks and feels like an original AEC Routemaster, or a Guy Arab IV with a tin front, or a Midland Red D9. Everything else is just a modern rectangular tin box on wheels. Putting the motor at the back, without a front radiator, is a recipe for overheating and failure.
Great review, big fan of any electric bus but this one looks like it's going to be popular with passengers, drivers and the bus companies. One thing I'd like to know is how good the AC is - guess we'll have to wait till it gets warmer but would like to hear any info on this.
Talking about the bell , the conductor on the old buses would signal to the driver ( can't remember if the 2 rings were to stop or start )
2 is to start
1 to stop
2 to go
3 for emergency