Dude, the Yuuzhan Vong are in the top three coolest factions of the SW universe. We need an entire series on them, the Infinite Empire, and the Ancient Sith Empire!
The Vong are terrible villains. They're boring and cliche, and they don't fit in with Star Wars at all. They're far more like Star Trek or 40K villains.
Renegade Brigade But they don't match the tone or feel of Star Wars. I also don't see the urgency. Even reading the series as a kid, the fact that the Vong have immunity to the Force and lightsabers felt like bad writing. Instead of building up an enemy naturally, in a way that feels genuinely threatening, the writers just make them immune to the good guy's weapons, so I knew that they were going to curbstomp The New Republic until the writers decided that it had been long enough and gave the Jedi a way to beat them. It's lazy writing. If the Vong weren't so obviously written to be a rock paper scissors counter to Jedi, the war between them would have been a lot more interesting. The outcome of battles was never in doubt, because it's clear to the reader when it's time for the Vong to win, and when it's time for the Jedi to win, so there was never any tension. The battle of Hoth is effective because, though the Empire seems incredibly powerful, they're not magically resistant to all of the Rebel's weapons. The Rebels could theoretically push back the Imperial attack, or be utterly destroyed. Because the audience doesn't know what's going to happen, it's engaging, and the actual outcome of a costly but successful retreat feels earned. I suppose it's not that the Vong are by themselves that bad, it's that they don't fit into the Star Wars IP, and that they were the villains of a really shitty series. With better writers, the Vong could be great villains in Warhammer 40k.
@@ThejollyFrenchman entirely disagree, the Vong are definitely a lazy writing tool for next big bad guy but saying they dont fit the cannon is just ridiculous.
They are the most interesting villains in Star Wars. They are what we think of aliens. Star wars needs this. These guys are savages something the empire truly feared. They give reason to Darth sidious. This is why sidious wanted to unify the galaxy in one militaristic military force. The Jedi are powerless against them because they aren’t force sensitive. Reason why sidious was obsessed with building a Death Star in the first place
Well, that went out the window in the last book or two. The Jedi wrecked the Yuuzhan Vong. It was retconned that Jedi simply couldn't sense Vong through the Force. It was a really stupid, abrupt retcon.
@@christianyaerger1751 Wasn't it the Solo's children Anakin and Jaycen Solo, that excelled at fighting the Vong? Ben was a Skywalker , but Jaycen became Darth Caedus.
When are you going to do the ''what if yoda was addicted to ketamine and drove a 2002 honda civic''? im sure a lot of people have requested this already!
A lot more in line with WH 4000 than Star Trek, though that one seems to come up as the universe the YV are from just as often. The poor Federation crews that come across the YV would've had a heart attack.
Palpatine was the player in a Stellaris game, he knew the End-Game Crisis was coming so he tried to turn the weak Republic into a military force strong enough to face it, but the Jedi had to be pricks about it!
@@StarboyXL9 Nope, Sidious intended to become literally the strongest force in the galaxy. Haven't you seen the vid on what Palpatine ultimately wanted to become?
@BK Beatty They destroyed so much of their own galaxy that the force itself abandoned them. Both sides you could say. That’s why the gave the jedi so much trouble. They and everything they use is undetectable by the force. The darkside can hurt them like lightning but, the soth were either all wiped on in hiding by the time of the vong war
@MarkGhost Productions Vong: *return with strange device* Rey: what's that? Vong: *holds device up to mouth* Mary Sue Shield: Disengage! *Mary Sue shield vanishes* Rey: uuuhhhh Vong: *stab Rey* ONWAAAARD!!!!
Rey Skywalker would kill half of them with a glare. The remaining half would decide they’re in love with her now and follow her about like Fin, periodically shouting “REEEY!!!”
This book series was, by far, one of my favorite from ledgends. If any have not read it, you should. Even if it is not cannon. It gives you such a deep look into the force, and how a Jedi uses the force. It has super sad moments, and triumphant ones. Of corse, with 14 books in the series, there are some that were slower than others, but as a whole,....one if the best. I would love to see it come to life on screen.
I totally agree!! I haven't said this to anyone outside my family till now but when they said 3 new Star Wars movies I got overhyped cause I assumed it would be these stories.... Well I'm sure you can understand my disappointment. I still read these stories and the old republic ones too.
The Vong conflict also forced the Jedi to rethink their perspectives about the Force in general and the very nature of the "dark" and "light" side. Corran Horn and Luke have a good discussion about this after Horn kills the Vong battlemaster in a duel...which of course isn't the Jedi way. Horn didn't just kill the Vong warrior...he hesitated before delivering the final blow because he wanted the Vong to KNOW that he was beaten. He wanted to send a message. Very interesting stuff.
God I love the Vong, something totally different to what I’d come to expect from Star Wars when I read the books when I was younger and wanted to see them on the big or small screen ever since!
The EU was such a big part of my childhood. I cried when I learned it had been cast aside. This is such a huge part of my Star Wars and would do anything to see it brought to life in canon or a legends series
I really don't see why Disney can't just let the writers continue legends alongside their new canon. It doesn't have to get tons of money or advertising, just those passionate writers create content for your passionate fans.
Yuuzhan vong: if cenobites were an invasive warrior race In all seriousness, the vong would make great villains for a new triliogy. Theyre motivations are interesting and different than the cis, empire or first order and the war would span 3 films
So smoke getting cut in half is kid friendly? A lightsaber going straight through a guards eye? Yeah keep telling yourself Disney cant do more mature stuff. Yall dinsey haters just like to pick and choose. Thanos literally had his head chopped off in endgame xD
Some Vong-related suggestions for your next videos on this great topic: - TsaVongLah: battle tactics, obsessions, mindset - Onimi: how he does what he does and why - Yammosks: classification and use during the war - Vergere: role, loyalties, Force powers
The Yuuzhan Vong got a mixed reaction, but I honestly loved them. Cause they were a breath of fresh for an expanded universe that got stale. Before them it was just super weapons, imperial warlords, and new dark side cults every week, very repetitive. I think something akin to them would be the fresh air the new canon needs right now.
WHOEVER at Disney who wants to SAVE the lucrative Star Wars franchise with one simple scene This message is for you, just make the events that happen in the The Rise of Skywalker cause two parallel timelines. Have a short scene explaining the actions that unfold have dire consequences that break the timeline in to two completely separate parallel timelines. Film one simple scene with Luke, Leia, Han, Mara and the kids and you make legends canon call it Alternate Universe (AU) as this parallel alternate timeline and u could make movies for both and release thrawn years from now , re-unite all fans and SAVE the FRANCHISE!!!! $$$$
Having the Yuuzan Vong in a film is not possible if you want to make it pg13 unless you'd terribly soften them down. And I doubt that Disney would produce a film that is for 18+.
New Jedi Order... what a series. Anakin, Chewbacca... Just wow. Nen Yim, Vua Rappuung, Norm Anor... Zonama Sekot! Such great stories, by far my favorite in the EU. The Yuuzhan Vong invasion was epic. Ahh, the Ganner! Vergere and Jason! I could go on and on. So many awesome moments!
The Yuuzhan Vong, Star Wars’s version of Orcs and Uruk-Hai from LOTR. They’re such a horrifying species in Star Wars Legends, hellish and brutal in combat and appearance.
The Yuuzhan Vong was one of the best creations of the Expanded Universe, as it gave the Jedi a real threat which couldn't be dealt with through typical means (no Jedi mind tricks, for example).
You forgot to mention how the new version of the Yuuzhan Vong, the Grysk, are coming after Episode 9. People who have read the Thrawn novels will know, and I think you did a video about the Grysk, but most people don't know about them.
Honestly, having Luke and a Gray Jedi Order fighting against the Vong for a trilogy would have been better than what we got. Stays close to Legends, respects the OT cast, and maintains the balance Vader brought.
So many people don't know about them. Thank you for making this video. Hopefully this brings them to more people's attention, because they are CHILLING!
@@JuggernautDr Not Dol Guldur Orcs lead by Azog and the Gundabad Orcs from the Hobbit. They were both significantly larger and stronger than even Uruk Hai, while also being significantly better armored and equipped than the orcs during the War of The Ring era.
Though it is now Legends material, the fall of Chewbacca to the Vong is one of the most memorable SW literature moments for me. The selfless sacrifice and defiance Chewie showed was incredible and the author painted an incredibly vivid picture. Would love to see a video on this. Keep up the great work SW Theory, recently discovered your channel and I’ve been binging your videos.
Great video. For me, Legends or the EU as we called it is the true lore. I personally do not recognize Disney's Canon. In my opinion this is the greatest story out of all of it. The New Jedi Order series, the Yuuzhon Vong storyline the great characters of Legends came into their own during that storyline and the enemy picked was unlike anything in Star Wars or sci fi in general I'd ever seen it was so original and the stories were so well written, so all encompassing and awesome. Thanks for taking me back for bit.
They only lightly tie in to the Yuuzhan Vong war, but would love to see some content about Wraith Squadron. I find them particularly interesting because I feel like their earlier stories could realistically slot right into the current cannon with not that many changes if Disney chose to do an adaptation of some sort.
I would love to see a Yuuzhan Vong breakdown of the Slayers...The genetically altered warriors created to take out the Jedi. I remember in the story that the Vong leader put on a demonstration and one of the Slayers took down like 10 Vong Warriors without breaking a sweat.
I've read every book about the Yuuzhon Vong invasion. But, this vlog told me things I never really got from the books. The Vong seem to make much more since now, creepy and gross, but I can understand how and why they think the way they do. I gotta subscribe just to see how many things I've overlooked. Thanks. Keep it coming!!
I remember reading this when I was young. It legitimately scared me. And it seemed impossible for our heroes to overcome this threat to the Galaxy. I need to re-read it again
I’ve literally always wanted to hear ur take on the vong since I discovered the new Jedi order, dead ass just 2 nights ago I was looking if u made one at some point that I missed, then I shit myself when I saw the notification
Андрей Шурочка OP is referring to the Grisk; it’s literally a neutered version of the Yuuzhan Vong. Their culture has been stripped away in the Disney canon and they now use conventional technology
The Grisk are fundamentally different than the Vong. The only thing that makes them *at all* similar is they are a threat from the Unknown Region that the Chiss really don't like. They are also way more interesting than OP ass HERP DERP NO FORCE WORKS ON ME
I'm guessing the Purrgil took Ezra and Grand Admiral Thrawn, into the unknown region of space where they would come to terms with their situation and learn about the Yuuzhan Vong, about who they are and their intentions of invading the Galaxy. I think that's where Ahsoka and Sabin come, in the upcoming Ahsoka TV series where they try to locate Ezra. After years of searching, Ahsoka uses the world Between worlds as a final ditch effort to find him, it eventually leads her into the unknown region of space where Ahsoka will find Ezra and Thrawn, may be in the Chiss home world battling the Yuuzhan Vong for years and Ezra learning battle tactics, fighting skills from Thrawn and Ezra eventually becoming close friends with Thrawn. They would gather years of knowledge on how to defeat the Yuuzhan Vong, but they would eventually loose the battle against them, may be Thrawn dying in the process in a desperate attempt to hold off the invading Vong as his people the Chiss, Ezra, Ahsoka and Sabin Escape back to Lothol through the use of the world between world's portal. They would then take their findings and the Chiss refugees to the New Republic to prepare for an Invasion. This I think would lead into the next trilogy of movies which would be the Yuuzhan Vong Invasion.
Hey star wars theory! I love your videos and your in-depth explanations of lore and legends! Thanks for being you and may the force be with you, always.
The New Jedi Order series was one of my favorites. The firs Novel alone was excellent. My only complaint about this series was the death of Chewbacca. Although it did take an entire moon to fall on our favorite wookie to kill him.
Among the events that happened in the post-Return of the Jedi galaxy in Star Wars before Disney were: * Thrawn's invasion, the births of Jacen Solo (future Darth Caedus), Jaina Solo, Anakin Solo and Ben Skywalker and the creation of the New Republic and New Jedi Order. * The return of Emperor Sheev Palpatine/Darth Sidious and the formation of the Dark Empire as well as their destruction. * The Yuuzhan Vong invasion. * The formation of Roan Fel's Galactic Empire. * The emergence of A'Sharad Hett/Darth Krayt and the New Sith Order. * The Second Galactic Civil War after the creation of the Galactic Alliance/Galactic Federation of Free Alliances. * The Sith-Imperial Civil War and the creation of A'Sharad Hett/Darth Krayt's Galactic Empire as well as its subsequent destruction and replacement by the Galactic Federation Triumvirate. Additionally Darth Nihl's plans for Sith cells to infiltrate the government of the Galactic Federation Triumvirate.
I remember reading "Star By Star" for the first time and being absolutely floored by how crazy and epic it was. Lot of people hated on the EU and the Vong in particular, and certainly there were bad books and plot lines, but for kids obsessed with Star Wars the EU was awesome.
There needs to be several movies made featuring these fellas. In Star Wars Legends, when these guys invaded the galaxy in 25 ABY (After the battle of Yavin) they immediately began wrecking havoc wherever they went. Within a few weeks of the initial invasion, the planet of Sernpidal , which is located in the Outer Rim, was destroyed when the Vong used a Dovin Basal to crash Sernpidal’s moon into the planet. This of course killed nearly every living thing that was on the planet at the time. Unfortunately, one of the victims was ChewBacca, who fell behind after rescuing Han Solo’s son Anakin Solo. And that was just the beginning. By the time the war was over and the Vong had been forced to head back to the Unknown Regions, 365 trillion beings were dead. Several species of sentient beings were completely wiped out during the war, with the most memorable being the rabbit like Gerb and their neighbors, the serpentine Slith, both of whom were native to Yavin 13. They got along very well with each other and other species (at least to my knowledge) That is until the Vong decided to go on a murderous rampage through the entire Yavin system. All life on Yavin 13 was destroyed.
Wait, what? Chewie dies? I was just beginning to get attached to him. Good comment - I know next to nothing about the Vong. Is your comment sourced from the 14-book “The New Jedi Order” or from somewhere else?
When I heard about the sequel trilogy, I naturally thought they were going to cover the Vong. I was immediately disappointed when I read the opening scroll as it made absolutely zero sense. Was left even more disheartened when I watched the movie and it turned out it was just a shot for shot remake of a new hope with a mcguffin plot device thrown in.
@@Bauglir100 First, I said when I HEARD there was gonna be a sequel trilogy. This is well before any promotional videos were shot. None of the promotional videos gave away the plot(the ones I saw anyway). They insinuated Finn was going to be a trooper turned Jedi but not much else. Nothing showed jt would be a shot for shot remake of A New Hope. They kept Rey being the main protagonists a secret, they could have easily done the same thing with the new villains of the trilogy.
Please talk about Palpy and Grand Admiral Thrawn and how they might have known of this threat. Also would love a video covering the ACTUAL children of the Solos and Akywalkers, and their adventures during this war
I think Thrawn hinted about them, at least in the Heir to the Empire comics. It seemed to be his justification to Sidious for wanting to serve in the Empire.
I would be down exploring the sinister alien species literature and revisiting Yuuzhan Vong War. Although for Disney's standards that's way more ambitious for their creativity
I wish this would happen! Can you imagine the technology we have now and just seeing this like a Independence day for Star Wars it would be Epic...but sadly I don't think the mouse would do this :( Great video as always man thanks for covering this🔥🐉👊👍
@SWT I've heard you mention the Yuuzhan Vong a few times in your videos but I had no idea that they were this cool and that star wars got this dark. I've been missing out on a lot of great stuff in legends
The New Jedi Order series is PHENOMENAL! I love the Yuuzhan Vong. Do yourself a favor and pick these up and read them. After plowing through 19 books, you'll be thanking me.
They remind me of species 8472 (or the undine, as called in STO), from Star Trek. Of course they are very different, but the bio-trch stuff ks very simular
As much as I love the Vong as antagonists, I truly hope Disney keeps their shitty hands off of them. Anything they touch from the old EU is just a bastardized, soulless husk of what they used to be. The Vong would have been a great antagonist for the newer movies...provided they were kept true to what they were in the EU and not watered down.
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Dude, the Yuuzhan Vong are in the top three coolest factions of the SW universe. We need an entire series on them, the Infinite Empire, and the Ancient Sith Empire!
The Vong are terrible villains. They're boring and cliche, and they don't fit in with Star Wars at all. They're far more like Star Trek or 40K villains.
I respectfully disagree, they’re like space Mongolian Aztecs, that shit is cool and brings a level of urgency unseen in Star Wars.
Renegade Brigade But they don't match the tone or feel of Star Wars. I also don't see the urgency. Even reading the series as a kid, the fact that the Vong have immunity to the Force and lightsabers felt like bad writing. Instead of building up an enemy naturally, in a way that feels genuinely threatening, the writers just make them immune to the good guy's weapons, so I knew that they were going to curbstomp The New Republic until the writers decided that it had been long enough and gave the Jedi a way to beat them.
It's lazy writing. If the Vong weren't so obviously written to be a rock paper scissors counter to Jedi, the war between them would have been a lot more interesting. The outcome of battles was never in doubt, because it's clear to the reader when it's time for the Vong to win, and when it's time for the Jedi to win, so there was never any tension. The battle of Hoth is effective because, though the Empire seems incredibly powerful, they're not magically resistant to all of the Rebel's weapons. The Rebels could theoretically push back the Imperial attack, or be utterly destroyed. Because the audience doesn't know what's going to happen, it's engaging, and the actual outcome of a costly but successful retreat feels earned.
I suppose it's not that the Vong are by themselves that bad, it's that they don't fit into the Star Wars IP, and that they were the villains of a really shitty series. With better writers, the Vong could be great villains in Warhammer 40k.
@@ThejollyFrenchman entirely disagree, the Vong are definitely a lazy writing tool for next big bad guy but saying they dont fit the cannon is just ridiculous.
They are the most interesting villains in Star Wars. They are what we think of aliens. Star wars needs this. These guys are savages something the empire truly feared. They give reason to Darth sidious. This is why sidious wanted to unify the galaxy in one militaristic military force. The Jedi are powerless against them because they aren’t force sensitive. Reason why sidious was obsessed with building a Death Star in the first place
A movie covering them would definitely have to be rated R
I'm down.
: - ] get Samuel Jackson back as a old slightly crippled ex Jedi and let him use “motherfucker” as much as he wants
nah more like real PG-13 rating or 14A like The Lord of the Rings trilogy
itll be on pornhub etc in a few years, keep in touch haha
And directed by Clive Barker
Jedi: *tries to force push a Vong*
*Nothing happens*
Jedi: ....hm.... *force grabs a giant rock and crushes the vong* Ah! Much better.
Jedi only use the force for defense, never attack - Yoda Ep. 5
Well, that went out the window in the last book or two. The Jedi wrecked the Yuuzhan Vong. It was retconned that Jedi simply couldn't sense Vong through the Force.
It was a really stupid, abrupt retcon.
I thought of that
@@christianyaerger1751 Wasn't it the Solo's children Anakin and Jaycen Solo, that excelled at fighting the Vong? Ben was a Skywalker , but Jaycen became Darth Caedus.
@@bratsmovies17 I defensively smash it with a rock.
When are you going to do the ''what if yoda was addicted to ketamine and drove a 2002 honda civic''? im sure a lot of people have requested this already!
I wish I could like the comment twice
@@UnusualSocks Thank you! i wish i could like yours like 3 times! maybe even 4? :0
As someone who uses Ketamine to manage chronic pain and drives a 2004 Honda civic....
that sounds hilarious. Do it. Do it now.
Mmmmm. Sell my organs for ketamine I shall.
brokelos will Yoda be running three Honda Civics with Spoon engines and three T66 turbos with NOS and a Motec system exhaust?
Not gonna lie. If star wars was not mentioned, I would had thought this was a Warhammer 40k race.
They seem to be inspired/simliar to the Dark Eldar in particular especially with the whole body modification and bdsm aesthetic.
A lot more in line with WH 4000 than Star Trek, though that one seems to come up as the universe the YV are from just as often. The poor Federation crews that come across the YV would've had a heart attack.
their caste system reminds me of the Forerunners from Halo
@@dylon4906 the forerunners were very big on tech but they definitely look similar
Weakest race in 40k :
That's why Palpy made all those destroyers and superweapons. Because of they. He knew there was something lurking in the shadows beyond.
As did Thrawn... The Chiss had already dealt with several Vong scouts even before the time of the Empire.
@@AM-hf9kk *Canderous Ordo:* am I a joke to you?
The Vong have always been lurking......
Palpatine was the player in a Stellaris game, he knew the End-Game Crisis was coming so he tried to turn the weak Republic into a military force strong enough to face it, but the Jedi had to be pricks about it!
@@StarboyXL9 Nope, Sidious intended to become literally the strongest force in the galaxy. Haven't you seen the vid on what Palpatine ultimately wanted to become?
Kathleen Kennedy: "The what now?"
JP sad but true lol
😂🤣😂🤣
Kathleen Kennedy: wait you know of some source material for Star Wars? How can someone learn this power?!
She's finna make a 2nd order as the next main villaims
Holy shit lol she would say that
*Looks like Jedi is back on the menu boys!*
@Jay Turan they are not for eating
Yeaaa! When are wee goin getsumm meatsss... 0_0
Stewpid fatt Lord of my Precious fanses
Pulls out a double bladed Silver light Saber try it!.
@@legostmoeliot4360 'Wot about their legs? They don' need those.
Oh they look tasty!
You know they’re cruel when even the dark side doesn’t want anything to do with them
true theyre so cruel the dark side is like i dont care about them they could rule this galaxy just as long as they dont touch me
@BK Beatty They destroyed so much of their own galaxy that the force itself abandoned them. Both sides you could say. That’s why the gave the jedi so much trouble. They and everything they use is undetectable by the force. The darkside can hurt them like lightning but, the soth were either all wiped on in hiding by the time of the vong war
The Vong: *arrive*
Rey: *exists*
The Vong: *leaves*
Rey: I am so good.
The vong:arrive
Rey:exists
The vong: ight imma head out
hope nom anor can kick her ass since he was a badass vong executioner.
They know they can’t fight Rey because she will call them sexist
@@bemotivated8443
And then procced to hand their bio-tech to them in her sleep.
@MarkGhost Productions
Vong: *return with strange device*
Rey: what's that?
Vong: *holds device up to mouth* Mary Sue Shield: Disengage!
*Mary Sue shield vanishes*
Rey: uuuhhhh
Vong: *stab Rey* ONWAAAARD!!!!
Imagine an entire species of BDSM
You mean the Nazis?
@@DerHammerSpricht *OOF SIZE: MASSIVE*
You mean the Drukhari?
You mean the Dark Eldar?
Cenobites. I could see the Sith having a Lament puzzle box.
Rey Skywalker would kill half of them with a glare. The remaining half would decide they’re in love with her now and follow her about like Fin, periodically shouting “REEEY!!!”
They'd break her in half. They're even invisible to The Force... somehow.
@@Aristocles22 IT WAS A JOKE
The time when your sarcasm goes over someones head. I mean, it wasnt even advanced and homeboy still failed. lol
@@nickchappa1827 I know. I was just commenting on how even Jedi would have a hard time dealing with them.
And then uncar plot comes and gives them their rations for the journey
"Symbiotic" relationship with their home planet - NOT "symbolic."
Guy has the heart and vocabulary of a child.
Shut up
Next you're going to tell me its not a statue of limitations...
This book series was, by far, one of my favorite from ledgends. If any have not read it, you should. Even if it is not cannon. It gives you such a deep look into the force, and how a Jedi uses the force. It has super sad moments, and triumphant ones. Of corse, with 14 books in the series, there are some that were slower than others, but as a whole,....one if the best. I would love to see it come to life on screen.
Is it finished ? I read somewhere and stuck in middle of invasion if i remember correctly they ask for mandalorian help
@@dogodogo5891 yes, seems like they did at one point. It was finished years ago
What's the series called?
I totally agree!!
I haven't said this to anyone outside my family till now but when they said 3 new Star Wars movies I got overhyped cause I assumed it would be these stories.... Well I'm sure you can understand my disappointment. I still read these stories and the old republic ones too.
@@abrahambernal7869 New Jedi Order series
They kinda look like the “orcs” of the star wars universe.
And space Aztecs
@@Nicholas_Chen_ *aztec dubstep starts playing*
They were certainly better than the first-order
@@bemotivated8443 yeah can you imagine if they Star Wars-ise an Orc and Aztec-based civilization? That would be visually sick!
@@nines042 And death whistle!
The Vong conflict also forced the Jedi to rethink their perspectives about the Force in general and the very nature of the "dark" and "light" side. Corran Horn and Luke have a good discussion about this after Horn kills the Vong battlemaster in a duel...which of course isn't the Jedi way. Horn didn't just kill the Vong warrior...he hesitated before delivering the final blow because he wanted the Vong to KNOW that he was beaten. He wanted to send a message. Very interesting stuff.
And that fight almost killed Corran also
God I love the Vong, something totally different to what I’d come to expect from Star Wars when I read the books when I was younger and wanted to see them on the big or small screen ever since!
Same 😄😄
Halo's Covenant is as close as you will probably ever get.
The EU was such a big part of my childhood. I cried when I learned it had been cast aside. This is such a huge part of my Star Wars and would do anything to see it brought to life in canon or a legends series
B ? By EU he is referring to Star Wars Expanded Universe.
I really don't see why Disney can't just let the writers continue legends alongside their new canon. It doesn't have to get tons of money or advertising, just those passionate writers create content for your passionate fans.
The Legends before TCW is my headcanon
The EU needs to die and derivative crap like this belongs in Star Trek, go be a Trekkie if this is what you want!
i wouldnt give two shits about star wars if it werent for the eu. thats what got me in, and they just flush it down the toilet like fuck me.
Yuuzhan vong: if cenobites were an invasive warrior race
In all seriousness, the vong would make great villains for a new triliogy. Theyre motivations are interesting and different than the cis, empire or first order and the war would span 3 films
Too edgy for Disney, they;ll be toned down and kid friendly.
Megami Dreemur yes but Disney keeps up child friendly movies because for some reason they think anything rated R will fail
Lol
@Moo Butt okay Don Quixote
Well, basically it should probably be 21+ since there were scenes in the comics where Vongs literally tore their victims apart with their bare hands.
So smoke getting cut in half is kid friendly? A lightsaber going straight through a guards eye? Yeah keep telling yourself Disney cant do more mature stuff. Yall dinsey haters just like to pick and choose.
Thanos literally had his head chopped off in endgame xD
Luke's duel with the Supreme Leader would be a nice topic to cover
Wow, something that is actually threatening and not a whiney red had and his troops, I'm impressed
This would also be new
Not an other wave of stormtroopers but a barbarian army using organical weapons
Some Vong-related suggestions for your next videos on this great topic:
- TsaVongLah: battle tactics, obsessions, mindset
- Onimi: how he does what he does and why
- Yammosks: classification and use during the war
- Vergere: role, loyalties, Force powers
The Yuuzhan Vong got a mixed reaction, but I honestly loved them. Cause they were a breath of fresh for an expanded universe that got stale. Before them it was just super weapons, imperial warlords, and new dark side cults every week, very repetitive. I think something akin to them would be the fresh air the new canon needs right now.
or, here's a crazy thought, or...
They could have been the villains OF The Sequel Trilogy
Luke Dearey would’ve been better than what we have
@@bemotivated8443 Discount Empire
WHOEVER at Disney who wants to SAVE the lucrative Star Wars franchise with one simple scene This message is for you, just make the events that happen in the The Rise of Skywalker cause two parallel timelines. Have a short scene explaining the actions that unfold have dire consequences that break the timeline in to two completely separate parallel timelines. Film one simple scene with Luke, Leia, Han, Mara and the kids and you make legends canon call it Alternate Universe (AU) as this parallel alternate timeline and u could make movies for both and release thrawn years from now , re-unite all fans and SAVE the FRANCHISE!!!! $$$$
"Don't blow your load too early"
- Some guy who blew his load too early
Having the Yuuzan Vong in a film is not possible if you want to make it pg13 unless you'd terribly soften them down. And I doubt that Disney would produce a film that is for 18+.
New Jedi Order... what a series. Anakin, Chewbacca... Just wow. Nen Yim, Vua Rappuung, Norm Anor... Zonama Sekot! Such great stories, by far my favorite in the EU. The Yuuzhan Vong invasion was epic. Ahh, the Ganner! Vergere and Jason! I could go on and on. So many awesome moments!
The era after ROTJ is my favorite in legends
I loved the Legacy Era, but I'm starting to read the NJO books.
Old republic for me. Legacy era has too much BS in it to sift through.
@@SalvationIsInChristAlone Wut i'll find the more obscener stuff to be epic
Love the legends content! Keep it coming! Would love to see you do a video on Kreia/Darth Traya/Arren Kae!
Imposter !!
Oh no! Whose the real one😱
"This is getting out of hand, Now there are two of them!"
What the sequel trilogy should have been. Sure it would have gotten backlash, but not the same level as The Last Jedi.
I agree with you , I want to see the Yuzhan Vong on the big screen.
I agree and they could have went into the legacy of the force, with the Solo twins.
Totally should’ve been the sequel trilogy.
When you think about it what is the story line? I have been so confused as to what the actual story is, and the direction they want to go in.
Soundwave 84 anything gets backlash just the nature of things
The Yuuzhan Vong, Star Wars’s version of Orcs and Uruk-Hai from LOTR. They’re such a horrifying species in Star Wars Legends, hellish and brutal in combat and appearance.
Insert Isengard theme on Vong.
They remind me of the Zerg
@@isidoreaerys8745 or another comprsion could be the chaos servant rro. Warhsmmer 4ok
Wow. There are really scary things to encounter even in the SW universe
They remind me of the falmer from Skyrim
Good comparison
They remind me of the Daedra, maybe a mix of them and the Falmer
The Chitin armor Falmer has is highly reminiscent of Yuuzhan Vong armor, too.
Skyrim: Can I copy your homework?
SW: Yeah, just change it up a bit so it doesn't look the same.
Skyrim: Suuuure...:
Give this man a trilogy!
*Zonama Sekot:* * *_looks at the crazy shit the Vong are partaking_* * Ight imma head out
The Yuuzhan Vong was one of the best creations of the Expanded Universe, as it gave the Jedi a real threat which couldn't be dealt with through typical means (no Jedi mind tricks, for example).
You forgot to mention how the new version of the Yuuzhan Vong, the Grysk, are coming after Episode 9. People who have read the Thrawn novels will know, and I think you did a video about the Grysk, but most people don't know about them.
Honestly, having Luke and a Gray Jedi Order fighting against the Vong for a trilogy would have been better than what we got. Stays close to Legends, respects the OT cast, and maintains the balance Vader brought.
So many people don't know about them. Thank you for making this video. Hopefully this brings them to more people's attention, because they are CHILLING!
The Orcs of Mordor have become Star Wars Canon! Lol
T-G_STEVE This is no gaggle of mindless Orcs... these are Yuzhan vong... their blades are sharp, their armor thicc and their shields broad!
yea, u goin kinda ham rn. Orcs are quite pathetic in most cases. These jokers travelled MILLENIA to reach the SW galaxy...
Orcs would become a slave race of the Vong
@@JuggernautDr Not Dol Guldur Orcs lead by Azog and the Gundabad Orcs from the Hobbit. They were both significantly larger and stronger than even Uruk Hai, while also being significantly better armored and equipped than the orcs during the War of The Ring era.
@@robinhaffner2077 Yeah... but as compared to other Orcs or the Vong? I don't think it even comes close; based on pain tolerance alone
Loved that arc, ar least a lot of it. Miss those days.
Me too
Most of it was decent, some of it was cringe. I wasn't really a fan of how Chewie died
@@grottski I feel you there. That's one of the moments I do not care for.
I can only imagine if Disney bring these guys into their fanfiction, they'll be orange and want to build walls.
Best comment here hahah
And they all would wear white hoods and I have Nazi arm bands
bemotivated so Democrats? You know nazis were socialists right?
Mexico has a wall in southern border, the Vatican has a wall, Disneyland has walls, the palaces have walls, your homes have walls and locks.
wtf are you talking about
Excellent run down. Watched a few lote videos on the Vong now, but this one definitely had the most detailed information.
"Yes, of course I have heard of Yuuzhan Vong!!! I am planning to wear a Yuuzhan Vong dress to the Oscars this year!!!!"
-Kathleen Kennedy
So she's going to the Oscars in her birthday suit?....eww
I don’t see Disney ever using these guys without toning them down.
Though it is now Legends material, the fall of Chewbacca to the Vong is one of the most memorable SW literature moments for me. The selfless sacrifice and defiance Chewie showed was incredible and the author painted an incredibly vivid picture. Would love to see a video on this. Keep up the great work SW Theory, recently discovered your channel and I’ve been binging your videos.
A lonely Wookie, roaring in defiance at a falling moon
This would have been a way better story for a trilogy than the crap we got from Disney
Great video. For me, Legends or the EU as we called it is the true lore. I personally do not recognize Disney's Canon. In my opinion this is the greatest story out of all of it. The New Jedi Order series, the Yuuzhon Vong storyline the great characters of Legends came into their own during that storyline and the enemy picked was unlike anything in Star Wars or sci fi in general I'd ever seen it was so original and the stories were so well written, so all encompassing and awesome. Thanks for taking me back for bit.
Legends: New republic screwed up with empire remnants and was completely destroyed by vongs
Canon: empire remnant instantly destroyed new republic
should have been the damn enemy for this trilogy..
Oh here's the Yuuzhan Vong video! Awesome!
They only lightly tie in to the Yuuzhan Vong war, but would love to see some content about Wraith Squadron. I find them particularly interesting because I feel like their earlier stories could realistically slot right into the current cannon with not that many changes if Disney chose to do an adaptation of some sort.
It would be so sick if they were adapted into canon. They’d be like the Chitauri of the Star Wars universe, and they could expand it even further
I would love to see a Yuuzhan Vong breakdown of the Slayers...The genetically altered warriors created to take out the Jedi. I remember in the story that the Vong leader put on a demonstration and one of the Slayers took down like 10 Vong Warriors without breaking a sweat.
I've read every book about the Yuuzhon Vong invasion. But, this vlog told me things I never really got from the books. The Vong seem to make much more since now, creepy and gross, but I can understand how and why they think the way they do. I gotta subscribe just to see how many things I've overlooked. Thanks. Keep it coming!!
I remember reading this when I was young.
It legitimately scared me.
And it seemed impossible for our heroes to overcome this threat to the Galaxy.
I need to re-read it again
I’ve literally always wanted to hear ur take on the vong since I discovered the new Jedi order, dead ass just 2 nights ago I was looking if u made one at some point that I missed, then I shit myself when I saw the notification
Might be cool to see skeletor taken out with a lightsaber lol 😂
I believe Rian Johnson said there will be no lightsabers, Sith, or Jedi in the new trilogy.
@@lillianlakotab6560 Then it’s gonna be shît. Simple as that
This is Outrageous!!!!!!!
Its outrageous on how many movies will this saga take
Disney: the vong invasion never happrn
Also disney: let's bring back the Yuuzhan Vong
uhmm, they didn't bring them back
Андрей Шурочка OP is referring to the Grisk; it’s literally a neutered version of the Yuuzhan Vong. Their culture has been stripped away in the Disney canon and they now use conventional technology
@@EricGraham94 they also not from another galaxy, so it is just another species from Unknown Regions
The Grisk are fundamentally different than the Vong. The only thing that makes them *at all* similar is they are a threat from the Unknown Region that the Chiss really don't like. They are also way more interesting than OP ass HERP DERP NO FORCE WORKS ON ME
Disney reminds me of that spoiled and ungrateful rich kid at school who had more toys than he knew what to do with, but wouldn't share.
I love the longer videos you have been posting! Keep up your hard work. It is greatly appreciated!!!!!!
This would be an awesome plot. It would be cool on film.
I'm guessing the Purrgil took Ezra and Grand Admiral Thrawn, into the unknown region of space where they would come to terms with their situation and learn about the Yuuzhan Vong, about who they are and their intentions of invading the Galaxy. I think that's where Ahsoka and Sabin come, in the upcoming Ahsoka TV series where they try to locate Ezra. After years of searching, Ahsoka uses the world Between worlds as a final ditch effort to find him, it eventually leads her into the unknown region of space where Ahsoka will find Ezra and Thrawn, may be in the Chiss home world battling the Yuuzhan Vong for years and Ezra learning battle tactics, fighting skills from Thrawn and Ezra eventually becoming close friends with Thrawn. They would gather years of knowledge on how to defeat the Yuuzhan Vong, but they would eventually loose the battle against them, may be Thrawn dying in the process in a desperate attempt to hold off the invading Vong as his people the Chiss, Ezra, Ahsoka and Sabin Escape back to Lothol through the use of the world between world's portal. They would then take their findings and the Chiss refugees to the New Republic to prepare for an Invasion. This I think would lead into the next trilogy of movies which would be the Yuuzhan Vong Invasion.
The Vong are one of my favorite powers in all of Star Wars.
Your work is incredible, thank you so much for those wonderful videos I would like to learn more about the yuuzhan vong
The Yuuzhan Vong Arc is definitely one of the best and most intense in the Star Wars Universe.
Better than Anakin's Arc; it features Darth Krayt and his new Sith Order ffs.
It’s been a long time since I last heard about them, I love legends thank you George Lucus!
Vong=Grysk
We will have a Grysk Wars trilogy with Thrawn, Ezra with other Chiss in toe...
sadly our OT trio now will suck forever
Ezra is Disney's canon. He doesn't exist in the SW universe.
@@nagihangot6133 so?...
I'm loving these explained videos
You should explain the story of when the vong attempted to shape a Jedi after attacking Luke’s Jedi praxium I think her name was tahiri veila
Anahiri is such a good ship
Too bad it only lasted two books before Star By Star happened...
@@lordsylph414 good book though
@@barrettdavidson7469 oh god was it good, but I will never read it again , the feels hurt
Hey star wars theory! I love your videos and your in-depth explanations of lore and legends! Thanks for being you and may the force be with you, always.
The New Jedi Order series was one of my favorites. The firs Novel alone was excellent. My only complaint about this series was the death of Chewbacca. Although it did take an entire moon to fall on our favorite wookie to kill him.
Chewbacca need a recognition for sacrificing himself to save anakin
and if he had not saved Anakin, would they have killed the voxyn queen?
wayne de sauniere wow it was so long I read the books that I forgot is was anakin he saved and not some kid from that planet.
Thanks for the reminder
I was 15 or 16 when I read that. I cried.
Mr. Vader I remember when I read does lines, it felt like bombshell,
Best channel every better than boring history books keep up good work
I would love to see the Vuuzhong Vong as cannon. I was always fascinated by their existence in the EU. That war was epic. 😳
No way Disney would do this good, A real effort of the Vong invasion would require an R rating.
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Among the events that happened in the post-Return of the Jedi galaxy in Star Wars before Disney were:
* Thrawn's invasion, the births of Jacen Solo (future Darth Caedus), Jaina Solo, Anakin Solo and Ben Skywalker and the creation of the New Republic and New Jedi Order.
* The return of Emperor Sheev Palpatine/Darth Sidious and the formation of the Dark Empire as well as their destruction.
* The Yuuzhan Vong invasion.
* The formation of Roan Fel's Galactic Empire.
* The emergence of A'Sharad Hett/Darth Krayt and the New Sith Order.
* The Second Galactic Civil War after the creation of the Galactic Alliance/Galactic Federation of Free Alliances.
* The Sith-Imperial Civil War and the creation of A'Sharad Hett/Darth Krayt's Galactic Empire as well as its subsequent destruction and replacement by the Galactic Federation Triumvirate. Additionally Darth Nihl's plans for Sith cells to infiltrate the government of the Galactic Federation Triumvirate.
The vong were freaking awesome
I remember reading "Star By Star" for the first time and being absolutely floored by how crazy and epic it was. Lot of people hated on the EU and the Vong in particular, and certainly there were bad books and plot lines, but for kids obsessed with Star Wars the EU was awesome.
I need an R rated ‘Star Wars Story’ of this
I've been waiting for you to cover this it was perfect
Do a thing on Nom Anor or Tsavong Lah. I particularly like Anor's design. He looks quite spooky.
There needs to be several movies made featuring these fellas. In Star Wars Legends, when these guys invaded the galaxy in 25 ABY (After the battle of Yavin) they immediately began wrecking havoc wherever they went. Within a few weeks of the initial invasion, the planet of Sernpidal , which is located in the Outer Rim, was destroyed when the Vong used a Dovin Basal to crash Sernpidal’s moon into the planet. This of course killed nearly every living thing that was on the planet at the time. Unfortunately, one of the victims was ChewBacca, who fell behind after rescuing Han Solo’s son Anakin Solo. And that was just the beginning. By the time the war was over and the Vong had been forced to head back to the Unknown Regions, 365 trillion beings were dead. Several species of sentient beings were completely wiped out during the war, with the most memorable being the rabbit like Gerb and their neighbors, the serpentine Slith, both of whom were native to Yavin 13. They got along very well with each other and other species (at least to my knowledge) That is until the Vong decided to go on a murderous rampage through the entire Yavin system. All life on Yavin 13 was destroyed.
Wait, what? Chewie dies? I was just beginning to get attached to him.
Good comment - I know next to nothing about the Vong. Is your comment sourced from the 14-book “The New Jedi Order” or from somewhere else?
@@ronjon7942 From various sources actually.
When I heard about the sequel trilogy, I naturally thought they were going to cover the Vong.
I was immediately disappointed when I read the opening scroll as it made absolutely zero sense.
Was left even more disheartened when I watched the movie and it turned out it was just a shot for shot remake of a new hope with a mcguffin plot device thrown in.
So I’m guessing you didn’t bother watching the trailer or looking at any tie-in or promotional material before you went into the movie?
@@Bauglir100
First, I said when I HEARD there was gonna be a sequel trilogy. This is well before any promotional videos were shot.
None of the promotional videos gave away the plot(the ones I saw anyway). They insinuated Finn was going to be a trooper turned Jedi but not much else. Nothing showed jt would be a shot for shot remake of A New Hope.
They kept Rey being the main protagonists a secret, they could have easily done the same thing with the new villains of the trilogy.
@@matthewsmith1779 Good point. I would’ve loved to see the Yuuzhan Vong too.
Please talk about Palpy and Grand Admiral Thrawn and how they might have known of this threat.
Also would love a video covering the ACTUAL children of the Solos and Akywalkers, and their adventures during this war
I think Thrawn hinted about them, at least in the Heir to the Empire comics. It seemed to be his justification to Sidious for wanting to serve in the Empire.
So the green goblins cousin is finally getting some screen time of his own.
I know it takes longer to make but really lovin these longer videos
I would be down exploring the sinister alien species literature and revisiting Yuuzhan Vong War. Although for Disney's standards that's way more ambitious for their creativity
We definitely need the story about Tendrando Arms and the YVH droids.
I wish this would happen! Can you imagine the technology we have now and just seeing this like a Independence day for Star Wars it would be Epic...but sadly I don't think the mouse would do this :( Great video as always man thanks for covering this🔥🐉👊👍
Imagine, VII opening with the new republic all happy and peachy, ageneration has grown up in peace, and then, the Vong arrive.
@@DerHammerSpricht Yup..That would have been wayyyy better than what we got lol👊👍
@General Grievous One could only Hope General👍
@SWT I've heard you mention the Yuuzhan Vong a few times in your videos but I had no idea that they were this cool and that star wars got this dark. I've been missing out on a lot of great stuff in legends
The New Jedi Order series is PHENOMENAL! I love the Yuuzhan Vong. Do yourself a favor and pick these up and read them. After plowing through 19 books, you'll be thanking me.
They remind me of species 8472 (or the undine, as called in STO), from Star Trek.
Of course they are very different, but the bio-trch stuff ks very simular
I agree
Oh yeah
Someone quick call the borg and have them assimilate the Disney timeline before its to late
@@whackamarkwinter5395 You mean: Someone quickly call Disney's heads, we've found a new cash-cow and film/art equality story to milk!
Yuuzhan Vong going Canon would give kids nightmares, but man what a dope challenge for Jedi and Sith alike!
If less is more imagine how much more is more would be...
Great saying. I may use that for my stories.
I love watching videos on the expanded universe! I hope to see a video covering Kyle Katarn!
I would love to see a video about Corran Horn and his part in the war
I'd love to see an I, Jedi series.
My favorite part was when he got turned into a shishkebab on Ithor
He was one of the best characters
Keep up with the Vong vids these r my fav!
Honestly, they need to chill on movies for awhile and focus on on the TV stuff.
Another Amazing Video! Favorited 2 today! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🤗
As much as I love the Vong as antagonists, I truly hope Disney keeps their shitty hands off of them. Anything they touch from the old EU is just a bastardized, soulless husk of what they used to be.
The Vong would have been a great antagonist for the newer movies...provided they were kept true to what they were in the EU and not watered down.
Too late, they already created the "neff" version of them in Disney Canon...
Nothing is sacred anymore...
I loved ever single one of the Yuuzhan Vong books. Them stories were amazing and very bloody indeed.