Thank you! I got lucky and had the luxury of choosing to buy one of these two models, with this video and your help I was able to make my decision. Thank you.
I have a couple of 8" PVMs and I think they're awesome portable monitors. One of them unfortunately was sold claiming it was serviced but it has some minor intermittent issues I'll have to fix some day. But the fully working one is super handy to have either for testing or portability. I bought it because with the right cable you can power it directly off of a 12V deep cycle battery like you might use for a battery bank with a solar power setup. So if the power is ever off I can still run a CRT for a few hours or more to play some classic games! Probably not a great 2 player experience though!
As a former owner of a 8042Q, they're a cute novelty but not good for regular gaming. The screens are too small, even at a close viewing distance. These are tablet and handheld screen sizes, without the ability to bring them up close to your face or angle them comfortably as you play. To understand the limitations and annoyances, one needs to play a variety of games on these for 30 mins, maybe an hour or more. It's not great. A 13-14" CRT is always my recommendation for anyone short on space or simply wanting a cozy little retro gaming setup. These 8" and under monitors are actually quite long and don't save as much space as you might think over a 13" set, and the screen size trade off is definitely not worth it.
I had a 20" on my desk sitting only a foot away and it felt just right. Definitely couldn't see anything less than 13" being too fun. 13" is much more attainable for a PVM as well. 20" tend to be hard to find and crazy expensive if you do.
Honestly, I use my 9042qm regularly for 240p gaming and I think it's really usable! SNES and PS1(240p games) feel just right. I do live in a small uni apartment, so my space option are limited... I would love to find a 14inch in the future, would be a nice and versatile desk setup
Just my opinion. But anything under 13" becomes hard to see fine details and I consider it more of a novelty, than a great gaming experience. But any CRT is still cool. 😎
You are absolutely right. But I think, that small ones can also be fun, if you only use them sporadically or for portable projects. I also think that any CRT is still very cool.
They definitely have their place imo. On a desk, 8 inch is fine. They're way more portable so if you have less space and still want a CRT with high quality inputs, they're great. Most consumer sets that are 13 inch and below don't even support s video. As the years go on and consumer sets die out, these will still be around and be way easier to get repaired due to the fact you can actually ship them without much hassle. Way easier to get serviced since more people are interested in repairing them, easier to learn how to repair due to parts and guide availability too. Also just cool if you're interested in retro tech and it's history
I have one of the 8 inch models and it has cracked solder that makes composite and S-video display in black and white, apparently a pretty common problem. If you ever find a model with this issue I'd be interested in seeing you do a repair video!
I have the 8 inch. Its great for Hand held consoles and systems up to the Super Nintendo. Its a bit to small though once you get more details in the picture. Anything that runs 240p works great for a desk.
Interestingly. I have to portable CRT units in my collection that I use for a mini entertainment center Steve. One is from Magnavox and the other is from an unknown tech establishment from Taiwan called "Action. Great way for some retro on the go gaming and movie watching. 8^) Anthony...
I can answer this. No, it's not good for gaming. But, most CRT and retro game collectors don't actually spend any time playing their games for real, because they're dads without enough time to do so. Most of the time people are just taking pictures of the title screens of games to post on social media... and for that use, the smaller CRTs are perfect. On another subject, I with my 17" JVC H-TM1750CG had a 12V DC input, very badly, since I live off grid with my solar powered 12v battery system because I do play retro games for hours on end to completion, every day, using a power inverter. Direct DC without inversion would be about 30% more efficient and save me a ton of power.
Alot of truth to that statement. Anytime I tell people about my collection they think I am playing games everyday. I am always be up front. Before being a dad yes. Now it is a rare treat but I do play when I can. I tell them my games are my plans for retirement.
@@Guythatknowsitall88 yeah, I mostly just play with my kids for about 10 minutes before bedtime. It's a nice way to share some of the ye olden days of yore. I don't like to game much anymore, either. With children, I see my time is too valuable! :P
Pvm4300 or nothing, I've had countless of your monitors in my TV van over the years. I've thrown perfectly good monitors away just because new tech came along. I like the rack mount ones that let you change input boards. Now a days things are so expensive I spent nearly 5500 bucks for a Sony pro res raw calibrate monitor and it's like looking through the another dimension. Amazing what's replacing them rip crt
I need your help! i have the pvm 9044pm. (i thinks is a brazilian version) if i connect n64 or snes directly to composite just with yellow cable maybe i ll get signal? or no?
good afternoon my friend, excellent work, I liked it a lot, I have a sony pwm 8041q, it has unstable horizontal, I can't get to the image with the adjustments and the colors are wrong, you know what it could be, thank you
Great vídeos you make, really can tell the passion for what you do. Tell me something, have you seen a Panasonic TC800EU CRT COLOR TV/MONITOR? there is one for sale cheap and im thinking in getting it, cheers and keep up the great work
Id really love to get a 8044Q or 8045Q. 450 Tvl on a small monitor is such a sweet combo. I just want it for a small Retro-Pi setup for my desk, mostly to play Gameboy and handheld games. I have a Jvc 9in monitor I'm just going to RGB mod instead, because that seems like a fun project. Sweet lil tubes.
I used to think that way, but after owning a PVM 8042Q, its grill matches what a square Gameboy pixel grid looks like. Handeld games look like I remember them looking, but with crisper colors. Just remember, ANY screen real-estate that is not used on a C.R.T. WILL create burn in. I have seen 4:3 C.R.T.'s used exclusively for 16:9 content (the Gameboy Advance is similar, with its 5:3 content), and since the top and bottom phosphors were never used, the white balance on the top and bottom of a displayed 4:3 image, was noticeably different. PVM 8041's, and 8040's, also create the same square grid (screen door) display.
Hi love your videos been following you for a while now i just snagged 2 8045q Sony pvms was wondering if you could share your CAPS List they both need service the screen shakes but when put into under-scan it stops shaking think the power supply is going out the other one the picture is switching from color to black and white Thanks for the great content keep the great Retro videos coming
Hi Retro, my PVM recently has green tint (especially visible on black screen). Sometimes i can lightly smack it and it goes back to normal. What should i do to fix it? Thank you, love your channel.
I've got a 6041QM looks very similar to the 5041Q. For some reason I' cant find the H.STAT VR on my set. Manual points to the neckboard but there is nothing to be found. Any ideas?
I have an 8044Q and despite the specs saying it has 450TVLs - 480i images look buttery smooth and clear! Its mesmerizing. I don't know the reason but maybe something to do with the small curve of the screen But other than swap meets and portability... I rarely game on it. It just sits on my shelf
Imagine being able to play on a handheld with a 5" 4:3 screen with motion clarity as good as the 5" Sony Trinitron CRT, the smooth motion clarity makes the image so much clearer in games like Metroid, Sonic, etc, unfortunately the motion clarity on the small IPS and OLED screens is terrible, and makes the otherwise stellar emulation available on devices like the Anbernic RG405, just a blurry mess if you're used to CRTs, all they need to do is ditch 60Hz sample and hold only displays and use a rolling/raster scan RGB OLED display, that way you only need 60Hz and all the 50/60Hz games will look and play just as they should.
I think 8” is minimum for Pvm. Anything bigger than over 14” and you start seeing blur lines and can’t tell the difference between a regular tv vs pvm.
To sum it up, the 5" looks as intended, but is WAY TOO SMALL, and th 8 inch ruins it in two ways: visible scanlines and still TOO SMALL. People, STOP hunting PVMs for retro gaming, and get a good RGB/S-video dual SCART consumer stereo set with multi standard PAL/NTSC from around 1990, those DO deliver the best gaming experience, and you wallet will be happy too.
@@artapichendusae9498 Just a bit of counterweight to keep the noobs out there from depleting their pockets to buy those PVMs from people who sell them as they do know they are overrated and want back their full buying price plus some added profit. For every single consumer set promotion there are 10 PVM videos, which is kind of suspicious. And I don't hate PVM's, I just say they are 10 times more expensive compared to a consumer set, and deliver less quality for that money.
@@artapichendusae9498 Woman, and no hate, but having the opinion that a consumer set at 1/10th the price just delivers a better retro gaming experience.
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That 5" is such a cutie 😍
That’s what she said
Thank you! I got lucky and had the luxury of choosing to buy one of these two models, with this video and your help I was able to make my decision. Thank you.
I've always wanted one of these little guys to play some old school animes while working during the day or something. Brighten the desk up a bit.
The boss will kill you 😀
Precisely the use case for one of my 9045's
Love PVM's, Love CRTs, Love Gaming...Simple as.
I have a couple of 8" PVMs and I think they're awesome portable monitors. One of them unfortunately was sold claiming it was serviced but it has some minor intermittent issues I'll have to fix some day. But the fully working one is super handy to have either for testing or portability. I bought it because with the right cable you can power it directly off of a 12V deep cycle battery like you might use for a battery bank with a solar power setup. So if the power is ever off I can still run a CRT for a few hours or more to play some classic games!
Probably not a great 2 player experience though!
As a former owner of a 8042Q, they're a cute novelty but not good for regular gaming. The screens are too small, even at a close viewing distance. These are tablet and handheld screen sizes, without the ability to bring them up close to your face or angle them comfortably as you play. To understand the limitations and annoyances, one needs to play a variety of games on these for 30 mins, maybe an hour or more. It's not great.
A 13-14" CRT is always my recommendation for anyone short on space or simply wanting a cozy little retro gaming setup. These 8" and under monitors are actually quite long and don't save as much space as you might think over a 13" set, and the screen size trade off is definitely not worth it.
I had a 20" on my desk sitting only a foot away and it felt just right. Definitely couldn't see anything less than 13" being too fun. 13" is much more attainable for a PVM as well. 20" tend to be hard to find and crazy expensive if you do.
Honestly, I use my 9042qm regularly for 240p gaming and I think it's really usable!
SNES and PS1(240p games) feel just right.
I do live in a small uni apartment, so my space option are limited...
I would love to find a 14inch in the future, would be a nice and versatile desk setup
I was thinking of getting a song pvm 8042q for 175$. Is it worth it?
Sony monitors for that NYC studio apartment that you share with three roommates.
Just my opinion. But anything under 13" becomes hard to see fine details and I consider it more of a novelty, than a great gaming experience. But any CRT is still cool. 😎
You are absolutely right. But I think, that small ones can also be fun, if you only use them sporadically or for portable projects. I also think that any CRT is still very cool.
I have a 9045qm, perfectly fine for C64. Gameboy etc. It can be a bit tiring on 16-bit, Australian prices for large ones though, ouch.
They definitely have their place imo. On a desk, 8 inch is fine. They're way more portable so if you have less space and still want a CRT with high quality inputs, they're great. Most consumer sets that are 13 inch and below don't even support s video.
As the years go on and consumer sets die out, these will still be around and be way easier to get repaired due to the fact you can actually ship them without much hassle. Way easier to get serviced since more people are interested in repairing them, easier to learn how to repair due to parts and guide availability too. Also just cool if you're interested in retro tech and it's history
I have one of the 8 inch models and it has cracked solder that makes composite and S-video display in black and white, apparently a pretty common problem. If you ever find a model with this issue I'd be interested in seeing you do a repair video!
There are links to 2 videos on that subject in the description
I have the 8 inch. Its great for Hand held consoles and systems up to the Super Nintendo. Its a bit to small though once you get more details in the picture. Anything that runs 240p works great for a desk.
Good song... WCW N64?
Revenge - Nice Catch
@@RetroTechUSA pretty much all we played on n64 for years was the 4 wrestling games in the 90s. they all had good music.
Interestingly. I have to portable CRT units in my collection that I use for a mini entertainment center Steve. One is from Magnavox and the other is from an unknown tech establishment from Taiwan called "Action. Great way for some retro on the go gaming and movie watching. 8^)
Anthony...
Nice. Yeah, they are interesting and cool to me for sure. More of a nostalgic novelty item to accompany a larger CRT.
I found a 40' Sony Trinitron xbr tube with stand for under 200 dollars 6ish years ago. LOVE IT
40 foot? Must be a Jumbotron, LOL
@@smillstill Probably has his own nuclear reactor to power it too
You guys crack me up :) Yes I missed an extra ' lol
I have the 5041q, but in composite lost Sync in white images. Is weird. Rgb works fine.
I can answer this.
No, it's not good for gaming.
But, most CRT and retro game collectors don't actually spend any time playing their games for real, because they're dads without enough time to do so.
Most of the time people are just taking pictures of the title screens of games to post on social media... and for that use, the smaller CRTs are perfect.
On another subject, I with my 17" JVC H-TM1750CG had a 12V DC input, very badly, since I live off grid with my solar powered 12v battery system because I do play retro games for hours on end to completion, every day, using a power inverter. Direct DC without inversion would be about 30% more efficient and save me a ton of power.
This one hit close to home. Guilty as charged! :P
Alot of truth to that statement. Anytime I tell people about my collection they think I am playing games everyday. I am always be up front. Before being a dad yes. Now it is a rare treat but I do play when I can. I tell them my games are my plans for retirement.
@@Guythatknowsitall88 yeah, I mostly just play with my kids for about 10 minutes before bedtime. It's a nice way to share some of the ye olden days of yore. I don't like to game much anymore, either. With children, I see my time is too valuable! :P
Pvm4300 or nothing, I've had countless of your monitors in my TV van over the years. I've thrown perfectly good monitors away just because new tech came along. I like the rack mount ones that let you change input boards. Now a days things are so expensive I spent nearly 5500 bucks for a Sony pro res raw calibrate monitor and it's like looking through the another dimension. Amazing what's replacing them rip crt
@@KehHs-l8b nah, the 4300 isn't portable.
Can you do a video of the repairs or how to adjust? I just saw the description links, thanks.
I need your help! i have the pvm 9044pm. (i thinks is a brazilian version)
if i connect n64 or snes directly to composite just with yellow cable maybe i ll get signal? or no?
good afternoon my friend, excellent work, I liked it a lot, I have a sony pwm 8041q, it has unstable horizontal, I can't get to the image with the adjustments and the colors are wrong, you know what it could be, thank you
Great vídeos you make, really can tell the passion for what you do.
Tell me something, have you seen a Panasonic TC800EU CRT COLOR TV/MONITOR? there is one for sale cheap and im thinking in getting it, cheers and keep up the great work
Id really love to get a 8044Q or 8045Q. 450 Tvl on a small monitor is such a sweet combo. I just want it for a small Retro-Pi setup for my desk, mostly to play Gameboy and handheld games. I have a Jvc 9in monitor I'm just going to RGB mod instead, because that seems like a fun project. Sweet lil tubes.
I used to think that way, but after owning a PVM 8042Q, its grill matches what a square Gameboy pixel grid looks like. Handeld games look like I remember them looking, but with crisper colors. Just remember, ANY screen real-estate that is not used on a C.R.T. WILL create burn in. I have seen 4:3 C.R.T.'s used exclusively for 16:9 content (the Gameboy Advance is similar, with its 5:3 content), and since the top and bottom phosphors were never used, the white balance on the top and bottom of a displayed 4:3 image, was noticeably different.
PVM 8041's, and 8040's, also create the same square grid (screen door) display.
Great video love it. Maybe a odd question bud I have a pvm 2130 where only one side of the sound works do you know what the problem could be.
bad solder joint(s) to the speaker most likely, or just bad connection to the audio jacks
Hi, to play RGB what kind of wires use? can you send me Ebay link to buy wires please, i dont understand very well , help me please
Hi love your videos been following you for a while now i just snagged 2 8045q Sony pvms was wondering if you could share your CAPS List they both need service the screen shakes but when put into under-scan it stops shaking think the power supply is going out the other one the picture is switching from color to black and white
Thanks for the great content keep the great Retro videos coming
Hi Retro, my PVM recently has green tint (especially visible on black screen). Sometimes i can lightly smack it and it goes back to normal. What should i do to fix it? Thank you, love your channel.
I've got a 6041QM looks very similar to the 5041Q. For some reason I' cant find the H.STAT VR on my set. Manual points to the neckboard but there is nothing to be found. Any ideas?
Killer music intro sounds like WCW aki n64 game
I have an 8044Q and despite the specs saying it has 450TVLs - 480i images look buttery smooth and clear! Its mesmerizing.
I don't know the reason but maybe something to do with the small curve of the screen
But other than swap meets and portability... I rarely game on it. It just sits on my shelf
PPI density, thats why.
perfect that support to put under an MSX2 or a C = 64 with the rgb modification of the Kawari Vic II 😉
6:25 How do you make a composite loop?
7:55
GN mod mat - great to see
thoes are nice tvs! thoes are my dream tvs! im also a retro collector
Very cool!
How have I never noticed that Gamers Nexus mat before?
Thanks for the vid but it does not answer the question Are Tiny Pro CRTs Good for Gaming?🤷♂
They are not. Where's my stereo sound? How can you even game on this sitting in the couch with a 1,5m controller cable? Duckhunt anyone?
14 and 21 inch good for arcade
Imagine being able to play on a handheld with a 5" 4:3 screen with motion clarity as good as the 5" Sony Trinitron CRT, the smooth motion clarity makes the image so much clearer in games like Metroid, Sonic, etc, unfortunately the motion clarity on the small IPS and OLED screens is terrible, and makes the otherwise stellar emulation available on devices like the Anbernic RG405, just a blurry mess if you're used to CRTs, all they need to do is ditch 60Hz sample and hold only displays and use a rolling/raster scan RGB OLED display, that way you only need 60Hz and all the 50/60Hz games will look and play just as they should.
I collect like 10 scart rgb.
4 from them Sony kv.
two of them are 29 inch.
Heavy and to big.
But "the are Sony".
And two 21inch perfect for arcade
TL;DR: Yes. Yes they are.
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Gaming on an 8” monitor, what a joke! But it’s a PVM! 😂
I think 8” is minimum for Pvm. Anything bigger than over 14” and you start seeing blur lines and can’t tell the difference between a regular tv vs pvm.
Don't like anything smaller than 10" can't see shit unless I síť a few centermeters Away from IT.
Good for collecting. Bad for gaming.
No
To me it’s like asking if they’d be good for home theatre. In my opinion, no.
To sum it up, the 5" looks as intended, but is WAY TOO SMALL, and th 8 inch ruins it in two ways: visible scanlines and still TOO SMALL. People, STOP hunting PVMs for retro gaming, and get a good RGB/S-video dual SCART consumer stereo set with multi standard PAL/NTSC from around 1990, those DO deliver the best gaming experience, and you wallet will be happy too.
@@lovemadeinjapan you probably watched this video on your phone, which actually has a smaller 4:3 display than the 5" PVM! 😆
@@RetroTechUSA No, I never watch videos on my phone, and if I would, it has a perfect 5" 4:3 image
.. I see this guy just commented on every pvm youtube clip spreading his hate on pvm retro gaming. ...
@@artapichendusae9498 Just a bit of counterweight to keep the noobs out there from depleting their pockets to buy those PVMs from people who sell them as they do know they are overrated and want back their full buying price plus some added profit. For every single consumer set promotion there are 10 PVM videos, which is kind of suspicious. And I don't hate PVM's, I just say they are 10 times more expensive compared to a consumer set, and deliver less quality for that money.
@@artapichendusae9498 Woman, and no hate, but having the opinion that a consumer set at 1/10th the price just delivers a better retro gaming experience.