What really happened between John Sykes and David Coverdale, why they parted ways - complete review
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- Опубликовано: 27 янв 2022
- What really happened between John Sykes and David Coverdale and why Whitesnake toured the 87 album without Sykes.
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John Sykes’s guitar work on the ‘87 Whitesnake record is some of the finest of the time. The track, songwriting and especially the guitar solo on “Is This Love” all are musical masterpieces
"Still of the Night" is a monumental achievement in guitar sonics and performance. Everyone on the track pulls their weight, but Sykes is the center of attention: he is the whole show. Sykes performance is jaw dropping.
I think Sykes' guitar work on that '87 album is incredible. To this day the solo in 'Still of the Night' gives me goose bumps.
🎸🙋♀️YES AGREED MASTERPIECE!
One of the saddest stories in rock. Sykes career seems so short when it should have flourished with the right band.
Mr. Sykes is one of those timeless Hardrock/Metal guitarists that never seaze to amaze. I love the work he did with Tygers Of Pan Tang, Thin Lizzy and Whitesnake, also Blue Murder, especially the first album. He is in my top favourite guitarists list of all times.
I hated him on Thin Lizzy. All those squeals on his guitar every damn 3 seconds… ruined Lizzy and Coverdale continued hus des-construction of Whitesnake with Sykes.
@@mikaelbiilmann6826 Sykes killed it on the Whitesnake ST. He is the quintessential metal player. Not to mention, he has a pretty great voice.Vai is a great guitar player but not for everything; such as Whitesnake. He ruined the Slip of the Tongue album, so did Adrian.
@@matthewpaolini Yeah, I guess I quit when Coverdale changed everything. I liked the old Whitesnake, but Coverdale had to get on, and the times were changing and it was time for poofy hair metal. I never liked Sykes’ tone and I think he ruined Lizzy’s last live lp with his constant pinched harmonics.
@@mikaelbiilmann6826 Yeah, He wasn't a good fit for Lizzy. If you don't like his tone; then that is your opinion and you're entitled to it.
@@matthewpaolini I know I was being old-fashioned and clearly Coverdale had to make money and get on, so I understand him.
Just as a side note, Bob Rock recently said that Sykes was the best guitar player he ever worked with.
How Cool*
I saw that video too
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Bob also said Lars was the best drummer. So take it with a big grain of salt. lol
pffft he hasn’t worked with CC Deville. 😂
What a sad state of affairs, the most tragic part to me is what happened to Neil Murray, one of the most underrated bass players ever
It is also a typical behavior in the industry, to use and abuse.
@@josephabela1922 No gentlemen there, just money and profit
He got a gig in Sabbath after that - could have turned out worse 😁
Yes, that's the one that's 100% unforgivable!
@@karsguitarchannel6088 I think the massive unforeseen money that rushed into the hard rock music business in 1985 caused a wave of coke abuse and misogynism that made for a lethal cocktail for civility. I was active in music at the time and in the same genre and every time I got close to some of the higher rollers it was some very objectionable stuff. Not everybody, but soo so many.
John Sykes… absolute complete package and brilliant musician. Total command of his instrument and his singing. I couldn’t stop listening to blue murder when they came out with that first record, and then years later, Bad Boys Live! There are some musicians that simply just have it all, John is one of them. The story of Whitesnake 87 is a sobering one, thanks for putting this video out.
I saw Blue Murder open up for Bon Jovi (don’t recall the year) but those 3 guys put out a sound as big (maybe bigger) than 5 members of Bon Jovi and John Sikes’ vocals and guitar playing were both incredible! He’s a major talent!
It was 1989
@@wayneblair67 Cool thanks! I saw them at Starwood outdoor theater in Nashville, TN. The sound was great.
Crap I did security for Bon Jovi but they were touring with aaerosmith I believe , unfortunately no Blue Murder . Bob Jovi we’re a bunch of assholes especially Torres ( drummer ) . Tying that hit me the most about Bon Jovi was how short they were . Steve Tyler on the other hand was one jf the most personable rock stare I ever met .
@@humanactivated1017 That doesn’t surprise me. Lots of musicians who hit the big time magically think their shit doesn’t stink anymore. I’ve been in the music business for 30 years and met a ton of em.
My condolences on having to see BonJovi....but John Sykes made the nightmare worthwhile didn't he?
How can one tell just how good of a player John Sykes is? It took TWO really good guitar players to replace him.
John Sykes is one of the most underrated guitar players from the 1980s it's amazing how much credit he doesn't get this guy is fantastic songwriter guitar player. Kar great job here telling the story thank you!!
I absolutely agree, John Sykes is a phenomenal player! Many thanks Jorge for the visit, much appreciated!
Great player but must have a defective personality or something. He’s done virtually nothing in 25 years. All his projects collapse. I think that says it all.
His vocals are great as well....total rock star
@@CrueLoaf You do know how difficult this business is,right? There are hundreds of decisions that must be made correctly, timing ,finances all have to be aligned and then there is the content..and the luck. There are many,many great talents (like John) who are not household names. They are not failures. It's just the gravity of it all. I wouldn't convict John or anyone if the lightning refused to strike twice.
@@georgebarry8640 many talents working their asses off from playing the local venues to recording in their bedrooms. The band Whitesnake shouldn’t be castigated because John felt he couldn’t fit in. He thought he was bigger than the band and went off to show the world just that. And in the last 35 years…one album of note!
Great player but disappointing output.
I tend to buy Sykes' version.
Yes. David has already proven to be quite the historical revisionist
@@gravitationalconstant and Sykes doesn’t? Haha! Sykes is a complete failure business wise. Every project he has done has fallen apart. You have to ask yourself why that is
No chance. Sykes is not a leader and was in no way capable of leading Whitesnake or making any decisions, especially in the USA. A decent guitar player but he was not the creator of 87 or a major player in Whitesnake. Listen to Neil Murray who is relatively unbiased.
@@CrueLoaf Dave was the leader, he needed to let sykes be his "keef " and he wouldn't.... and neither guy could recreate that synergy....
@@CrueLoaf Thin lizzy and blue murder. Kick rocks
John Sykes is just one of a handful of Metal guitarists, I'm my opinion, that played with real feeling. He played with such emotion. If you play guitar you especially know what I mean. He's a phenom.
Favorite of all time.
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I totally agree!
Absolutely he has some soul in the sound when he been a string he meant it John Graham Cincinnati Ohio
🎸🙋♀️Yes
Sykes is the reason I took up guitar. I was 16 when the 1987 album hit and it changed me. When they finally came to town, it wasn't Sykes, it was Steve Vai in 1990. Some will say even better but not to me. Sykes was the hero of this album.
Agreed. Vai was a big mistake for WS. Sykes has 1000x more tone than vai, AND taste. I saw WS at castle donnington with 300,000 people. In the front !
Before I really knew about John Sykes, I heard someone say "Vai's got nothing on Sykes." Of course, I thought he was exaggerating because, come on, we're talking about Steve Vai. I listened, thought about it, and concluded, "nope, Vai's got nothing on Sykes."
I saw them twice, both times it was Vandenburg & Campbell.
WOW. I met Sykes in NYC at 330 AM at a Lizzy Tribute show. He signed my last live performance record of Thin Lizzy. He was so cool, and a very nice guy. He was doing this Lizzy thing for the Music in my opinion. He cares about Phil. He Cares about music. He IS a beyond great musician. You can be great, but it is important to be cool. Sykes was cool in my Opinion. Saw it firsthand.
Without Sykes this album would’ve never been as big as it was.
No. The album was successful because of the promotion it got. Honestly it’s not that great of an album.
@@thetruthhurts6652 🤦🏻♂️ ffs
Without John Sykes there would have been no whitesnake 87 .. Neil Murray and Ainsley dunsbar are absolutely brilliant on it too
Also the videos with Tawny were incredibly spectacular but no doubt that without that sound, guitars, drums, Whitesnake would never have become that huge
@@karsguitarchannel6088 for sure. They would never of had that success in the USA with Marsden and Moody 😎
John Sykes and Jake E Lee man, I tell you, those two dudes are probably the two most gentlemen who were robbed of full on red meter fame and accreditation. Both did a lot for the bands they came in to essentially save them in the end, especially in the US where both Ozzy and Whitesnake were facing problems of how to go on in the early to mid 80’s. Both have the talent to make it big, they just unfortunately got muscled out by the people who they thought were their friends.
Sykes is just a natural musician and true rock guitar legend. He is naturally gifted by God.
Great vid.
I saw that tour. This album literally saved WS in the 80s, who were a 70s band.
No Sykes = no WS.
I had no idea the guys on stage and in the video on MTV were NOT the guys who did the songs on the album. We didn't have the web back then.
Coverdale is a great singer, and has managed to surround himself with superb musicians one after another. Seen WS many times. Look up how many guitar greats have been in Whitesnake. The last time I think I saw Reb Beach with them.
Too bad it couldn't work out with Sykes. WS went downhill win album sales after the split. Although the tours were great. I really love Slip of the Tongue also, many apparently did not.
It appears Coverdale got too cute by half. He has always said he likes to shake up the band for the sake of it.
He should have kept Sykes though. Perhaps one arena could not contain both egos.
The musicians who played the instruments on Whitesnake ‘87 is printed clearly in the liner notes. Everyone who payed attention to that genre of music during that time knew that Sykes, Dunbar, and Murray played guitar, drum, and bass and that album.
Reb is the longest surviving member besides Coversale
He got a great big break when hired by Deep Purple . We'd never have heard of him otherwise 🤷
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@@jeffschwartz5199 IMO the best formation of Deep Purple was in fact with David Coverdale and Glenn Hughes.
Oh yesterday I was watching Blue Murder "Valley of the Kings" video and I noticed that Carmine Appice had "Blue Carmine" written on his bass drums. Very cool! And I guess this is why David Coverdale called them Blue Carmine
That whole album is awesome!
It's not Dan Huff on the album version....he IS on the 45 version of Here I Go Again,though. Adrian Vandenberg is on the 1987 album version, doing the solo.
He has 2 bass drums that spell out 'Blue Murder' on top, and 'Carmine Appice' on the bottom. If you look at one of bass drums it says 'Blue Carmine' and the other says 'Murder Appice'. I guess Blue Carmine was the better option to go with... 😄⚰️
@@ChucksterOLove Yes I did notice that when I watched it one more time, thanks
It is funny to see the footage of Thin Lizzy from 1978 Sykes looks exactly the same as in 88 ...
I’ll tell you why, Coverdale was jealous of Sykes. Sykes had immense talent, he had the looks and he was a killer vocalist. No room for two stars on Coverdale’s stage. So Coverdale made the biggest mistake of his professional career. Sykes was the total package!
Coverdale is the CEO of Whitesnake. It’s his band. He put his career on the line to make it work. He signed away his pre Slide It In records to get out of a bad deal. Sykes tried to take over the band while making the 1987 record. Do you think Coverdale was going to keep him? John is massively talented, but he was nothing more than a highly paid hired hand. A hired hand that’s never going to have work again. I think his problem is that he’s too talented to be a hired gun, and not interested in being a bandleader. It’s been over 35 years since the Whitesnake album came out, and he’s released precious little since.
@@stormbringercoming8105 You are absolutely right !!! Sykes massively talented ? Never heard from again 😂😂😂😂
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Whatever criticism I have for Sykes, doesn’t mean that I don’t appreciate his talent. His work with Thin Lizzy on Thunder And Lightning alone makes him a legend.
@@stormbringercoming8105 I agree with that
That is also why the claim that Sykes was trying to take over, or replace Coverdale are preposterous. Geffen had signed David, Geffen’s investment was in David, and David alone.
That said Sykes is reputedly hard to work with; he may have annoyed too many people in the inner-circle, and many (not just Coverdale himself) may have wanted him gone (ie: management).
Finally, and ironically, Sykes had no issue stepping-in and re-recording Slide It In; yet got mad when Coverdale essentially did the same to him.
Blue Murder’s debut was superior to “Slip of the Tongue,” and nobody who is a fan of Blue Murder gives af that it didn’t sell as well as the latter. Sykes’ songs and guitar playing on Blue Murder showed just how important Sykes was to the sound on Whitesnake ‘87 - the album that revived the band and made them huge. Obviously, Sykes wasn’t the vocalist Coverdale was, so it would’ve been incredible to hear him or Ray Gillen (whom Sykes originally recruited to sing, but the deal fell through).
Yes Tony Martin (wrote lyrics and vocal melody to "Valey of the Kings"), then Ray Gillen, even Glenn Hughes was approached but eventually Sykes decided to sing himself, I guess just like Gary Moore did
@@crusheverything4449 😂
I didn't know that. A Blue Murder with Sykes and Ray Gillen (RIP) would have been a dream band come true.
@@bumpyroad3251 they all had problem with Sykes because of his EGO, the same happened to COZY, the only one to blame IS JOHN, VERY TALENTED BUT he felt he was a star when he wasn't
@@marcelojavierlovera6130 You've got that the wrong way round, totally!
Actually, Kalodner said that he signed Coverdale because for him Coverdale was one of the greatest vocalists and he wanted Coverdale to work with Sykes because Sykes was fresh and talented player. And Kalodner wanted Whitesnake to become a heavy metal band with modern sound to make it big in the US. But then he had trouble because Coverdale had trouble singing and then Coverdale started fighting with Sykes. So Kalodner had to recut Here I Go Again in January 1987, with completely different musicians. And then he signed Sykes to Geffen because Sykes did a phenomenal work on the 87 album.
What a turmoil arround that masterpiece of album!...Interesting quote by Robert Plant about Coverdale
Great story as usual my friend! CARRY ON!
Cheers from Chile🇨🇱
Big thanks Bruno for the visit! Great pleasure to hear that, much appreciated!
John Sykes has his own complete style and sound. I can always pick out his super wide slinky vibrato. He’s had that since Tygers and Thin Lizzy. His sound has only developed and gotten better. Listen to Still of the Night then listen to Blue Murder Valley of the Kings. Please. NO ONE sounds like John Sykes. He’s a real player and sorely missed.
That's why I think the Dan Huff story is a load of crap created by Olsen and Coverdale. Listening to the Blue Murder album, his style and sound is unmistakable!
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The other new song from Jan 2021 further explains the 'message'
Super wide slinky vibrato? How about a whole step bend and release like I did 30 years ago to practice intonation. I never thought of that as a vibrato. Can you imagine a vocalist using that "vibrato"? I admit, "Baby Please Don't Leave Me This Way" that he did with Phil Lynott on their solo thing is about as good as it gets, song and solo. Still of the Night as an unreal "wind in the graveyard" solo; but, I'm not convinced he even played that. Why? Simply because he has never replicated it live. Honestly, I can see Dann Huff doing it, after studying both players' styles. As far as Blue Murder, I listened to it once-- and as a Thin Lizzy fanatic, I so WANTED to like it. As far as Thin Lizzy it cannot be denied that Sykes gave those strung out boys a shot in the arm. However, Thunder and Lightning was entirely completed (outside of Cold Sweat) was recorded. Scott Gorham is Thin Lizzy, and musically, Sykes would probably make a good guitar tech for Scott. Not much else.
yes he had it since tygers but people is ignorant and tone deaf...not to mention how he hit the notes!!!! what a player!!!!!
Listen to him mangle black rose. Messy.
Never thought he was a good fit in Thin Lizzy.
Wish John Sykes would play live again in the UK, fabulous player!!
John Sykes the man,the myth and the legend.
Lives on!!!✊
The biggest mistake of Coverdale’s career was firing his real band and replacing them with a “made for MTV” band of hired guns. They looked great and had the chops obviously, but when it came time to write a follow up, Sykes was sorely missed. Whitesnake was never the same once Sykes was fired. That follow up album “slip of the tongue” was an embarrassment.
yyyyup.
JOHN SYKES MY FAVORITE GUITAR HERO AMAZING, JOHN SYKES THE BEST GUITAR LEGEND YEEEAAAAHHHH
You have to hand it to John Sykes, no matter what adversity threw at that sumbitch his hair always stayed totally on point.
His hair is still pretty good for being older.
Don’t forget those cheekbones and jawline.
this was a valuable video for me, and clarifies for me what I had suspected went down with Sykes and WS. Thanks for this.
Sykes is an amazing artist and I have been listening to Blue Murder and Sykes’ live solo album everyday lately. Masterful!
This is something I've been trying to research for many years now, so thank you for the video. David has always changed his line-ups with alarming regularity.
Many thanks Dave, much appreciated!
It appears he learned a tonne from the master of change & selfishness . . . Ritchie Blackmore !
Like Blackmore (whom I like) but realise has a massive EGO, Coverdale also developed and commercially adopted a huge arrogant ego.
Example-
Coverdale said in a 2019 interview 'we Whitesnake competed with Rainbow.
We absolutely killed Rainbow with the 1987 album. "
Problem to his BS analogy.
Rainbow broke up in May 1984 as Blackmore joined the MkII Deep Purple reunion by August of that year.
How exactly was Whitesnake competing with Rainbow, when they ceased to exist in mid-1984 ?
This highlights the BS Coverdale peddles.
Who in their right mind would want to get rid of a guitar god!... His riffs were so killer on that 87 album.. His guitar sounds massive too!.. They never came even close to those hits!.. David Coverdale made the biggest mistake not realizing this!
John Sykes is a guitar God
Coverdale thought that he was Whitesnake and he could change his guitar players anytime he wanted
@@karsguitarchannel6088 Yup!... 100%... and he was dead wrong about that!.
@@karsguitarchannel6088 absolutely! David found out as the sequel to the 87' album, never came close to the songs, sound or utter coolness that John had , even with hired gun Steve Vai brought in to shore up the sound!
@@karsguitarchannel6088 Whitesnake is DC’s enterprise. Whitesnake never belonged to Sykes. That’s just it.
To say Sykes didn't play on WS87 is just ludicrous. Just listen to Blue Murder, it's the same guitar tones. It's also the same caliber of songwriting. WS never recovered from Coverdale firing the band. Sykes is a monster.
This channel s so fascinating! It’s great to hear the stories told by an actual musician who knows their stuff and lives through this as well!
Big thanks Robbie, much appreciated!
I'll never forget Cozy Powell's drum solo with the Brian May band at Edinburgh Playhouse . Dust and plaster being shaken and falling of the roof because of his intense power. Excellent Video Thankyou. 🎸 👌
Thank you, great pleasure!
🎸🙋♀️Sykes’ talent is undeniable. I wore out my cassette of 1989 Blue Murder album. Also some of my fav masterpiece songs are Whitesnake, with & w/o Sykes.
I love Vivian Campbell, Adrian Vandenberg, Tommy Aldridge and Rudy Sarzo. They are great guys and got nothing to do with Caverdale's decision to change the line-up. That was just absolutely unfair what happened to the musicians who actually worked on the album.
I actually copied and love to play Adrian's and Vivian's guitar solos they recorded for Whitesnake - Here I Go Again album version and Give Me All Your Love 88 remix version
@@karsguitarchannel6088 in all honesty I didn’t like their solos , felt like just didn’t add anything to the songs from the Sykes versions which frankly are brilliant .
@@karsguitarchannel6088 Vivian Campbell is a great guitar player! My favorite in the eighties! Just listen to early DIO records!
To take his spot like that.. Vivian is a bit of a douche himself. Great guitar player yes but that is a douche move. Just goes to show the business was cut throat.
I am so bummed I could not see this show because my band was playing the same night. Kar does so much research for these stories. Great job Kar!
Big thanks Shawn!
I had the 1987 cassette, and John, Neil and Ainsley were credited with playing on the entire album, with Adrian Vandenberg doing the solo on “Here I Go Again”, and I believe Bernie Marsden as co-writer on both “Here I Go Again” and “Crying In The Rain”. And, as far as Whitesnake’s sound not connecting with Americans, I LOVED the early Whitesnake albums 1978’s US “Snakebite” to 1983’s “Slide It In” (to which I actually prefer the UK mix, released in February ‘83.)
Great video, love it! Thanks for the upload
Many thanks for checking out Callahan, much appreciated!
History revealed Sykes was the real talent. Coverdale deserves a lot of credit but Sykes is the man that constructed the band and sound. When I hear and see Coverdale my first impression is EGO. When it comes to Sykes I wonder why the industry hasn’t deemed him a GOD.
Funny that - David Coverdale has been a rock legend for the best part of 50 years - both before and after his very brief flirtation with John Sykes. Whitesnake were huge in the UK long before 1987. You have haerd of Burn, Mistreated, Soldier of Fortune etc haven't you?
Yes I know those latter tracks are Deep Purple - but frontman for Deep Purple!!!! Not sure Tygers of Pan Tang are going to go down in rock folklore in quite the same way
Lets test out your theory.
Coverdale was in Deep Purple and wrote some of the best Deep Purple songs there.
Then, he created Whitesnake and continued his success. Sykes has not done any of those things.
If what you say is true, he would have created a new successful band, after he was fired from Whitesnake.
On the other hand, if we talk about who is a good/bad person, it is a another conversation.
People tend to think they are right and ignore what is happening around them.
None of us were there to see things unfolding and therefore we can't make a judgement on who was right and who was wrong.
David Coverdale was an established rock star long before John Sykes became part of the " new" Whitesnake. This whole article sounds like John Sykes being a bitter man who believes he never got his dues.The Tygers of Pan Tang were never really anything more than an opening act in the time of the nwobhm, playing in the pubs and clubs around Newcastle This garbage belongs in soap opera digest.
John hasnt done anything of note outside of thunder and lightning and whitesnake 87.
I AM AN OLD METAL / JAZZ FUSION ROCK STUDIO DRUMMER FROM THE 80'S / EARLY 90'S AND WHATEVER IS OR HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT JOHN SYKES NEVER TOOK AND ROOT WHATSOEVER .. WE ARE ALL WELL AWARE OF HOW AWESOME SYKES IS, AND NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE THAT ... ITS FOREVER LOCKED IN THE HISTORY OF TIME !!!
Great video my friend...had me hooked from beginning to end.
Many thanks!!!
Interesting,, Great photos of Cozy & the band what a incredible lineup of the 1st WhiteSnake rockers.. :)
Hi Scott, great to see you! Thanks for the visit, much appreciated!
I've been watching this channel every morning with my coffee. I'm no better than any soap-opera watching housewife...as long as it's a rock&roll soap opera! Thanks man...I've been feeling the psychological (and some physical) ravages of father-time; these vids really bring me back to "back in the day" ---for instance, I'm still not over losing Randy. I had so much fun learning some of his material. I guess recently losing a lot of rock guys (starting with EVH) refreshed losing Randy also. I had never heard the real story of how Ozzy discovered him until recently, as well as the real story of losing him; along with the demon riddled Andrew Aycock's roll in it...wow.
Hi Erich, thank you very much for watching! Such a great pleasure, I appreciate very much! I write the stories and Shawn helps me to narrate them and he also does these beautiful opening videos.
@@karsguitarchannel6088 It's also inspiring me to play more...I now teach my teen daughters. While I don't gig any more (started playing in '77, inspired by KISS' Destroyer, then VH1) I figured out the VH stuff by slowing the LPs down to 16 speed on those old school record players, then tune an octave up; although the bi-product was having to hear Roth in slo-mo though, "RRRRROUUGGHHHOOWWW!!!" Switched to doing stand-up on stage...as there's no ego maniacs to deal with. Love You Man.
Crying In The Rain from the '87 record, is his magnum opus. Such a long, burning.and emotional guitar solo. Couldn't imagine my teenage years without that record.
It's criminal that John Sykes doesn't get the recognition he's worthy of. Blue Murder 'here comes trouble' album is amazing work.
Well done Kar. I can tell you from first hand experience the information contained in this piece for the most part is spot on (minus the hear say segments) A fascinating subject for guitarist & fans alike. With the moutains of opinions on this topic and lack of truth its refreshing to finally stumble across a piece of work such as this thats based more on fact than opinion. -Dannyboy (JS studio tech/prod. asst B.M./N.B.T. 91'-95')
Oh hi Dannyboy, I remember you! Many thanks for the visit, great pleasure to see you!!! Thanks for all kind words, I appreciate!
Have an awesome rocking day!
Sykes is still badass today, his musical talent still blows my mind.
Sykes was playing with WS going back to at least 1985. It would be nice to hear the full history between these two.
I always wondered what happened and why DC had a complete new band after recording...Thank you for making this video
You are very welcome John, much appreciated!
With Whitesnake ready to start their farewell tour, it would be so great to have a video of Sykes joining David on stage and playing Still of the Night together ONCE live. But I doubt it would happen.
Without John Sykes i never would have visit Whitesnake concerts anyway. I was blown away how excellent Sykes was and a much better replacement for Lynott with Thin Lizzy. Excellent voice also. John rules
Lynott WAS thin lizzy😂. Sykes will never be in the same league, grow up and learn about talent boy. 🤣
There's no replacement for Master Phil Lynott.
What a moronic statement.
Sir!!! SUPER HUGE FAN OF YOUR PAGE!!! Thank you!!!
Many thanks, great pleasure to hear that, I appreciate!!!
Hey I just want to thank You for the incredible job you did telling this story!!Im gonna be binge watching your channel it seems!!HaHA!!Seriously Thanks and GREAT JOB SIR!!
You are very welcome Johny, great to hear that! Thank you
Saw Whitesnske 4-5 times in the early 80's. Long before DC came under the spell of that devil geffen. This was the best lineup. Marsden, Moody, Hughes, Paice and Lord.
Hughes?
@@TheLjohnfoxx Roger Glover, a Murray?
Thanks Kar, I learn so much from your vids🎸🎸🎸🎸☇🎹🎶❣
Hi SAHARA "HASHA" ART! Many thanks, such a great pleasure to hear that!
So nice job exposing all this backstage information about the old times of our favourite bands
Many thanks, much appreciated!
This was the first real rock album I ever heard. It's what got me into hard rock and that's become a huge part of who am today. I followed John Sykes to Blue Murder and I loved their work. Like a lot of people, I would then branch off into grunge and heavier forms of metal, but I am happy to say that I have just stumbled across a John Sykes solo album, and it's clear that he hasn't lost his touch. I remain a big fan.
John Sykes is fucking phenomenal. When WS was here in Brazil in '85 at the first Rock in Rio, replacing Def Leppard at the last minute, many people turned up their noses. To improve WS was the first "heavy" band to perform on the first night to an audience where most still didn't really know the band and for an audience that was nervously looking forward to the same night, Queen and Iron Maiden performances. Sykes not only put 300,000 people at his feet and carried WS on his back. And he was still elected the sex symbol of that edition of Rock in Rio.
Awesome, thanks for sharing!
I didnt know that additional info re: Rock in Rio 1985. Wow I wish I had been there..although I have viewed Sykes guitar solo a few times (magnificient!). Thank you for sharing this!
You’re right about everything. Sykes was awesome in Rock in RJ and Coverdale was horrendous. I think it was Sykes last gig with WS.
Sykes was influential in getting the 'Whitesnake' sound adapted to the American audience, and he was excellent at his craft🤩! David took Whitesnake to greater heights and sustained the music for decades! Sykes is not missed, appreciated yes, but Reb, Doug, Steve Vai, Adrian, Vivian, and Tommy🤩 carried the torch quite well 😉!! Anyone that thinks 'Slip of the Tongue & Good to be Bad' are not as good as Sykes' recording 'self-titled Whitesnake' are not being honest🤔. David has always surrounded himself with good musicians and talent, And David knows more than anyone what the 'Whitesnake' sound Is!! Sykes, thanks but you were not Whitesnake, David is the Heart & Mind of Whitesnake 🤩!!
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Just came across your video. Great info ❤
My best recordings have been when the engineer said, "I'm not recording, let's just run through it" it's amazing how great you play when you think it's not being recorded
WS could have been a behemoth. If they’d put out 2 more albums of similar quality to 1987, they’d be a HoF level band. 1987, along with the extra cuts, was that good….To me, this album marked the end of the truly great British blues/hard rock bands.
I mean they still are better than some bands in HOF.
Slide it in was a great album too
the real shame here is the fact that coverdale NEVER took "chemistry" into consideration here.. it was sykes and co. that put together "slide it in" and "slow and easy",etc, before the 87 album. there was a chemistry there that was working big time in davids' favor. once you fired those guys, he was NEVER able to achieve that again. sykes gave him the machine to stardom with great riffs that turned into hits. vandenburg and vai could NOT provide that for him. at least NOT in such a short period of time. had they stayed around for some years and developed some "chemistry" , it may have happened. but alas, that was NOT the case.. sykes was the golden goose that coverdale simply let get away. they could have easily put out another 2 or 3 great albums before the grunge movement kicked in... cementing him in rock and roll fame.
but he learned. good to be bad and forevermore are really good albums. felt they were a band again.
Whitesnakes best success was with slide it in and 87. They pushed slip of the tongue but it never took off. I think blue murder had more success than slip...
To be fair, I think Vandenberg and Coverdale songs were genuinely really good. Sure, the guitar riffs are nothing compared to 87 (or even pre-Sykes), but the songs on Slip of the Tongue are quite enjoyable (and sparkled up with Vai's playing)
Slide it in and Slow and Easy was a far better album than Here I go again. I still listen to Slide it in on that Spotify playlist!!
Slide it in and slow and easy was rerecorded by sykes, NOT written by sykes. The eu version of that album has mel galley and Micky Moody, it was remixed for US release
One of my more favorite conversations I have had with guitar heroes, Sykes is right there close to the top. I was a musician grinding in the 80's with a lot of these guys in LA, I had access to any concert that I wanted at the Forum in LA. The best part, often, was the after-party at the forum club downstairs. It was a who's-who of 80's rock. One night (I do not remember who I saw that night) I went down there and there was John. He was alone, sipping on a pint, just leaning against a dark wall people watching. This was after the dismissal (and although I saw the Vandenberg/Campbell version of WS, it was not THAT night - but close). I walked up to him with the "arrogant little prick" attitude, and he immediately disarmed me. He was so very kind and gentle. The WS issue was a "no fly zone," but other than that he was one of the kindest guitar heroes that I had ever met. We people watched together. We laughed at how Tommy and Heather always got that same booth on the right at the entrance to be seen. He would point people out - "There's Lukather." We talked about the club itself, the Forum, the LA scene, just stuff. I have no opinion on the differences between DC and JS, but I can say that John was a kind, gentle soul that appreciated that I appreciated him and didn't mind being a normal human with me.
John sykes was brilliant in thin lizzy
The first time I ever heard Jon was the thin Lizzy song cold sweat. Man he stood out. Great guitarist and songwriter
John Sykes reinvented Whitesnake. Coverdale owes his career to John Sykes.
Worked at the Record Plant Recording studio from 1991 to 2007. Hung with John, Mike Fraser and Tommy. What a time it was ....
Thanks for the great expose.....and what a mess. I have wondered WTF for years....So it sounds like Red Light syndrome, possible sinus infection, egos, and power struggles destroyed an amazing collaboration. It was crazy, back in 87, Whitesnake with Still of the Night and the rest just came out of nowhere blowing up on MTV.
Team Sykes all the way, everyday.
I was lucky enough to meet John Sykes backstage at the 1st gig he did with my favourite band THIN LIZZY (REGAL THEATRE Hitchin Herts)
Thunder & Lightning is a heavy weight LIZZY album and John gave it the steriod injection it needed!
Mike Stone becameva friend of mine and not only a top rock producer (Queen, KISS, Journey and TEN etc etc) He was also a great human being!
Pete Woodroffe Music UK
Hey Pete thanks for the visit, you are very welcome!!
Thank you so much for sharing this. Anyone with an ear to hear can tell the amazing Sykes tone and the also amazing Dan huff tone. Different, but both great. "Here I go again" radio version sounds like Giant, so obviously Huff. Whitesnake 87 = SykeSnake, is Obviously Sykes. Too bad for guitar world as a whole that we never saw Sykes play that album live with Coverdale. I would have paid MONEY to see/hear that. ✌✌
You are very welcome, great pleasure!
Love Dan Huff and his work in Giant. Cool story. I’ve never heard this before.
I went right off Coverdale after he did this. He treated Neil Murray even worse. Murray and Dunbar weren't even being paid, why didn't David fight for them? Robert Plant has slammed David in the past saying he isn't very reliable. The Powell, Murray, Sykes and Coverdale line up was so good and would have gone on to make some great albums. Instead it became style over substance.
Saw the Sykes/Murray/Powell version play second bill to Quiet Riot in October 1984 in Kansas City. Sykes was incredible. They wiped the stage with QR. (half the crowd left during QR). Opener was Helix.
Saw that same line up here in LA John killed it David did all that works how come you never wrote anything like that when John was gone
I loved Sykes in Thin Lizzy even though the band itself wasn’t in the best of shape when he replaced Gary Moore.
The party life had taken its toll and John had the near impossible task of breathing new life into a worn out band. He kept the show on the road.
You can really tell John Sykes did the 87 guitar parts. Listening to the song
Whitesnake
(Bad boys)
And also
Blue murder
(Black hearted woman)
They sound similar to each other so I believe Sykes was the guitarist for Whitesnake and he sounded great on both bands. And Sykes solo work. It’s sad that Sykes didn’t do any work on the slip of the tongue album. But still the 87 album was great and still a great album 🤘🏻🔥🤘🏻
The Black Sabbath tune "Warning" from their 1970 debut album was actually written by Aynsley Dunbar and band Retaliation, an excellent English blues band for those interested.
Really...I thought that was an Anamals tune with Chas Chandler
Listened to Adrian Vandenberg's interview on John Sykes and he said that he was in the studio when John Sykes stormed in and had a heated argument with David Coverdale. Adrian said that he was recording the guitar solo to 'Here I Go Again' in the back room at that monent when he heard lots of screaming in the mixing room. He didn't go out because he thought 'It's none of my business' but when it got quiet, he went out and asked 'What was going on?'And Coverdale and Keith Olsen explained that John Sykes had been there.
Adrian also added (in Adrian's words) - John Sykes is a fantastic player and he's surprised that John Sykes has never come up with more records since then, he did one or two with Blue Murder and nobody heard of him again. It's very sad because he's a great player.
Well it's kinda weird to hear that from Adrian. Did he record anything big after Whitesnake?
Besides it was Steve Vai who recorded the guitars on Slip of the Tongue album. But I really liked Restless Heart album released in 97. The guitar solos are so tasty! Adrain did a great work on that one.
...and Vandenberg is an accomplished player, but who has heard of HIM other than his involvement with WS?🤷♂
@@lcwatts2971 i have, hes done alot more than sykes, thats for sure. Although he took a 10 ? year break from music to focus on his art.
Great content. Thank you for sharing this
Big thanks!
South of France seems to inspire rockers ( LOL , sunshine and sea may be ...)
Awsome review mate !! You really know your subject !! You are really passinnated and that make us listen to all your detailled story !!
I would have been mad if they had delated all my guitar work , though it's strange to play even solos before the vocals , but what ever ...
Seems like those cats had a lot of arguing !!! Egos are strong !!! Of course it's Sykes playing !!! Rock on mate !!!
Many thanks Christophe for checking out, great pleasure!!! Rock on!
Yeah his name is Neil Sean awesome guitar player absolutely
1987 Is the best album ever... and Sykes guitar work was amazing! great video!
Many thanks!!!
This is cool. Some of this backstory I knew, but a lot of it I didn't. Thanks!
You are very welcome, thank you!
I knew Cozy Powell, he lived near me in the 80's, he drove a white Ferrari 308 GTB
Amazing, thanks!
I’ll tell you what….it’s psychological. Once that red light comes on, it totally throws you off! Because it’s GO time. Money is involved. On any other day, your voice is fine because there is no pressure.
If we could get a Sykes and Plant album that would the ultimate payback
Oh I love this idea! That would've been a really great project!
It'd be a nice riposte to Coverdale/page!
@@karsguitarchannel6088 Plant would never do it. If there's one person who likes to call his own shots more than Coverdale, it's Plant. No way Plant would cede to Sykes. Coverdale only did it for Page due to his enormous respect of Jimmy.
David coversong wanted to be plant so bad
I would listen to that..
I saw John Sykes with Thin Lizzy . . . Brilliant guitarist!
Anyone who thinks Dan Huff played the guitar parts on the 87 album and not John, then that person hasn't listened to any other stuff John played. That album is ALL John Sykes.
David Coverdale ripped John Sykes off is what happened.
Sinus infections are a thing, obviously. Nose candy problem???
Thank You for sharing
You are very welcome Greg, thank you!
Whitesnake in the 80s was defined by John Sykes. Coverdale shafted the entire '85 band. Sykes was great in Thin Lizzy as well.
As much as I love Dann Huff, I find his solo on the radio version of "Here I Go Again" pales in comparison to Sykes'.
No radio station in my area played the Huff version...it was always the album cut. I had to seek out the radio edit.
Heh....the Radio "edit" was on the 45 and the Greatest Hits album. It wasn't even really an edit...it was a full on rerecord, that didn't get played ever!
Ironically, the album cut was the one solo on the entire album that was NOT played by Sykes. It was Adrian Vandenberg. Completely different tone from the rest of the album, and it sits differently in the mix than all the other solos on the album. John Sykes is quoted as saying it was the one solo he wasn’t able to finish before he got fired.
I can summarize this twenty minute vid in one sentence. David Coverdale was intimidated af by John Sykes, a guy who could sing as-good-or-better than he could and could also dominate the crap out of a Les Paul while doing so.
Pretty simple really...
All while looking better too..
Cool Story bro.
I fJohn was such a phenomenal talent, he didnt need Coverdale to attain stardom. After Whitesnake, was he acclaimed as a major vocalist? Did he go on to produce albums of his guitar talent?
@@rap3208 yes he did ..
@@tangerinerose3724 he disappeared.
@@rap3208 no he didn't... Do your research. Have a good day.
I was pissed Sykes was not with them. His guitars sounds awesome. To this day.
I’m not a all happy with the way John Sykes was screwed (and the other members)BUT OUT OF THE ASHES OF THAT BETRAYAL CAME BLUE MURDER,WHICH IS ONE KICK ASS BAND!!JOHN IS AN INCREDIBLE VOCALIST,HES ALSO A GREAT SONG WRITER AND AMAZING GUITARIST (WHEN I SAY AMAZING,I MEAN REALLY AMAZING!!)People Like Coverdale just make me sick,I was betrayed in my band PHANTOMXPROJECT by my guitar,singer in which I taught him how to scream and put feeling and dynamics into not only his playing,But applying emotions (through dynamics)into not only playing live,But writing the music to have these feelings when they were played live!!The Thanks you get for this is envy,Accompanied with a huge stab in the back,So in some way John creating Blue Murder and being so awesome was validation for him and made me feel a certain sense of peace which I know sounds weird (cause he didn’t do it for me,obviously)But for anyone who’s been used and screwed over by someone they were working with!!SO GREAT JOB MR SYKES!!!
Coverdale basically got a gift from God in John Sykes. If he was smart, he would have realized how much he upped their game. Whitesnake was almost a decade old by 1987 and still middle of the road as a headlining band. You could easily see how good he was because they had to get many 2 guitar team all-stars to replace him in Vandenberg, Campbell, Vai, Beach, etc...
They never touched that 1987 greatness again.
Plus, they had a way better formula as 4 guys than the bloated caravan it turned into.
I will admit, I liked the original lineup of Whitesnake with Moody/Marsden as well.