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I demo'd this plugin way back in July and bought it within 10 minutes of testing it. I knew Soundtheory was bringing their reputable heat with this one. Great breakdown of the parameters as well. You gave an excellent walkthrough of how it works and eleviated some confusion on a few things. Bless.
I bought this on release. So innovative in design yet intuitive and sounds great. I have a v1 looptrotter sa2rate and carnaby HE2 hardware saturation boxes, but the convenience of having instances on multiple buses is invaluable. Plus Soundtheory is an awesome company and I like supporting their continued development
Appreciate it! Glad you enjoyed the video. Clipping on drums is a great way to add loudness, grit, power, and aggression to the bus. Especially if you work in parallel.
Thanks very much. I don’t use Studio 1 although Luca does. I’m sure if you know how to do basic bus routings in Studio 1 you could replicate what I’ve done by watching the video.
Also if you’d be into helping make a Studio 1 template maybe I could coach you through it. Reach out via our Warp Academy website contact form if you want to try that.
Thanks for the video and good explanation of this common issue and how to fix it. I undestand this is a promoted video and Kraftur seems to have its place in making a dedicated and versatile tool for the job. However before buying yet another new plugin I suggest everyone to try even ableton stock plugins like new saturator (you could also experiment with roar if you need multiband), which also have different clip algorithms. The trick is to compare in a good osc (I use PsyScope) with a waveform view of your channel. And also use your ear to a/b. Then dial in just enough to shave those nasty peaks and without changing the characteristic or body of the original sound. And doing this I was able to achieve 6 LUFS using just saturator and the stock limiter on the master. Before clipping it would begin distorting much earlier. I haven't tried Kraftur and it might do the job better, but in the end I also have neutron 5 which also has multiband clipper now, and ozone for mastering, so keeping critical about it and not get another new plugin for the same job, is always a good time to stop and consider 😅
Hey hey! Thanks for the kind words and the well-thought-out comment. I get you. I mean, I'm an Ableton Certified Trainer, and the DAW has some amazing tools and effects, especially when you Rack things up. The new effects and new aspects of old effects in Live 12 are really big level-ups. That said, the Ableton Saturator and Limiter are very different types of effects to Kraftur. Neutron 5 with a multi-band clipper would be a closer comparison, as you pointed out. The big thing to note here is that when you run a complex signal into a single band gain reduction stage (clipper, limiter, saturator etc.) you will get intermodulation distortion - which universally sounds bad. Multi-band gain reduction, and generation of harmonics by using a band-limited signal, produces significantly less intermodulation. Plus, as another commenter pointed out, the low frequencies will always make the clipper distort badly first. It's always been a bit of an engineering hack to put a subtractive low shelf before a clipper to attenuate that, and then an equal additive low shelf after the clipper to restore that frequency. So a multi-band clipper is a much better solution where you get less intermodulation and you also get to clip each band the perfect amount with full control. That's my take on it. And it aligns with what you're saying too. If your goal is not to change the characteristic or body of the original sound, a multi-band clipper will allow you to preserve the roundness of the low end and not over-distort compared to a single band saturator / limiter / clipper. Thanks for watching and commenting. Cheers!
@ Yeah, tbh I've done just one test and there I didn't notice much issue, probably because the tracks were fairly simple and treated separately. Still worth looking into, and keeping the mentioned hacks in mind, if for some reason you are limited to stock plugins. Like said was able to get much louder mix at the master limiter than without it. And no audible distortion. Alternative hacks: you could try building your own multiband or try roar which does multiband and has probably the same clippers as saturator, but can't really comment on that as haven't tried it fully yet. Building your own multiband with eq crossovers and effects rack can probably introduce some phase issues too which is usually better handled in a ground up built multiband plugin. So that said, Kraftur looks a good option and now on sale the price is actually not that bad. ;)
Thanks! It's a Lewitt LCT-440 Pure condenser mic, running into a Rodecaster Pro V1 audio interface with FX active. Note that the final sound of my audio is heavily processed in post and mastered using a chain of about 8 plugins. So the audio from the mic is quite different from the final sound (still good, but just don't expect to plug that mic in and have it sound like this). Cheers!
I mean - kind of - I get you. Technically, you can link all the Shifts and move them down. But they're restricted the range to 6 dB of movement, which is quite a small range. Not ideal workflow - and I did show that in the video. It's better workflow to drive up into the clip point using the Match function IMO, which is why I explained it that way. Unless of course you're talking about the output clipper, which does have a ceiling you can drop. I also showed and explained this.
@@warpacademy Bottom right corner. CEIL is adjustable, dropping the ceiling. Because you mentioned that Kraftur is a clipper where you push the signal up into a fixed clip point but in reality it can do both function. Drop the ceiling or push the signal TO the ceiling. BTW the range for bringing down the threshold of each band of each band is +18dB not 6dB. -6dB increases the threshold from which the clipper will start processing. Kind of confusing but just checked it. Mind double checking yourself maybe I got it wrong don't know.
Hey hey. It’s important to understand that Kraftur is 2 clippers. Watch the video again and you’ll see. When I talk about using Drive up into a fixed clip point I’m talking about clipper 1 - the flexible multiband / single band / parallel clipper. You’ve pointed out clipper 2 - the output clipper. This is a single band clipper with no parallel control and I specifically said in the video that it has a ceiling you can drop down into the signal as well as a gain (drive) control to push amplitude into the ceiling. You can think of the Shift as a band specific ceiling sure. But it’s best adjusted only after you drive the signal up so it hits the clip point. That’s much faster workflow. Then, if you want to, you can adjust the band specific shift / ceiling. I think you may be right about the range being +6 / -18. I’ll have to check. Their manual doesn’t say. Edit: That is correct. The Shift parameter goes from +6 to -18. Good catch!
Yes, I'd love to. In fact, Luca works in Studio One so the initial inspiration for this template was from Studio One. The issue is I don't use Studio One, but I am looking for someone who does that I can coach to re-create this template. If you'd be up for that, and if you know how to do routing in Studio One, then reach out to me via our Warp Academy site support form and mention this conversation you had with me. We could collab on one. Cheers!
I always wanted a multiband clipper, cause when I want to clip my snare or kick, general clippers always harm the low end, so it would be a great plugin, thanks 🎉
Exactly. It's the low frequencies that will cause much more audible distortion with a clipper. So it can be a great technique to clip the LF less, or reduce the LF before it comes into the clipper. A multi-band clipper is perfect for this. Cheers!
@warpacademy With pleasure, I am looking forward to it since I want to raise RMS level from -4 to -2 without raising integrated loudness from -8 LUFS. Sounds mathematical but it always gives good results and the song sounds wide but It doesn't happen in all songs I widen sometimes I need to have -6 LUFS to get -2 RMS
You can’t raise the RMS loudness of a song without also raising the reading in short term LUFS. The calculations are very similar (the averaging window is 300 ms vs 3,000 ms).
How is this much different from KClip in multiband mode? Yes, the interface is quite different and snazzy in Kraftur; but you're still just isolating multiple bands and clipping them separately with varied settings and then recombining them.
Very good question. I also have K-Clip. In fact, it was the first clipper I used. That said, I'm not a huge fan of its multi-band configuration. The crossovers in Kraftur are extremely well designed. They are similar to the crossovers in the Neumann KH420s actually, which sound very transparent. The Director of Research at Soundtheory has his Phd in theoretical physics, and that knowledge went into the plugin and crossover design. The other aspect of Kraftur that sets it apart is the precision of the calculations for the transfer curve. They are done in a way that is extremely smooth, which has a particular and noticeable sound. It also produces less aliasing. So while both are multi-band clippers that can soft-clip, Kraftur is a noticeable step ahead IMO.
Yeah, just echoing Vespers, I have both. When using the delta listen in multiband mode on k-clip, you hear a lot of sound especially in the highs bleeding through that isn't being clipped. That's the crossovers. I think if k-clip had linear phase crossovers that would fix the problem, but that would be a lot more CPU intensive and really beyond the scope of what k-clip is trying to be. I wish I could use the multiband mode of k-clip without worrying about it, but I have to worry (in a mastering context) if it's sounding better because I have the clipping just right or if the filters are just changing the phase of my sound in a way that I like. With Kraftur, I do not have to ask myself that question - if what is coming out of Kraftur sounds good it is because I have the right clipping settings. I still use K-clip all the time btw, Kraftur isn't perfect either. I really wish Kraftur had a harder transfer curve as it's baseline. I have to go back to K-clip when I want the "cleanest" clipping I can get, if that makes any sense. I just always use K-clip in single band mode. My dream clipper is still K-clip with better crossovers.
Well said. Yeah I also wish Kraftur would run a hard clip mode. There are lots of times I want a perfectly linear transfer curve right up to the clip point. And I typically use hard clipping more than soft when mixing. As opposed to K-Clip, have you tried Schwabe Gold and Orange Clip? They are the best single band clippers on the market IMO. Both have hard clipping modes. Regarding crossovers. It’s interesting to note that Krafturs crossovers are not linear phase and yet they sound completely clean and transparent. I always thought you needed linear phase crossovers for that but I was proven very wrong in an extensive conversation with their Director of Research and learned a ton about crossover design. Cheers!
@@warpacademyI grabbed the demo, but I found it unintuitive to navigate even though it's a simple design. I'm not really understanding the spectral display and what we're supposed to be looking for on the X and Y Axis. I wish there was just some normal feedback and metering... like, you're clipping 2.3dB in the low band, 3.5 dB in the mid band, etc. it feels like a lot of guesswork and, really, I don't have time to train my brain for a new feedback system that isn't an improvement on existing metering and immediately understandable. It feels like it's a bit too clever for its own good. At the very least there needs to be a better, comprehensive explanation video because the manual is minimal at best and thin on laying out some use case examples.
Hey hey. Yeah I had the same experience learning it. I found the visual feedback was hard to make use of compared to a more bare bones clipper. It’s one of those tools that you really dial in by ear. And isn’t that really the best way? I mean, it really doesn’t matter if a meter is showing you 1 dB or 6 dB of clipping. That’s just a number. What matters is the sound. We don’t experience music with our eyes. That’s where I got to with it. I really did want the metering and the numbers too! And I did ask their team for that. They listen and they did recently put in the crest factor reduction meter, which is good. And I know they plan to continue adding features. This first version is for launch and more to come. You should message them and let them know your feedback :). Cheers!
Hey hey. If you load Kraftur up in Plug-in Doctor you will see full phase rotation at each crossover frequency. Note I said see and not hear ;) The crossovers are minimum phase, not linear phase, and they have been designed that way very intentionally. They are very transparent. Linear phase crossovers have many downsides as well, which is why they didn’t use them. In terms of minimum phase crossover design, note that the human auditory system is quite insensitive to phase shifts and also that any playback and recording chain already has a ton of phase shifts in it. For example, my main monitoring system with Neumann KH420s have a non linear phase crossover system and I don’t hear it at all. Nearly all microphones will have some sort of highpass cut filter. And nearly all saturators and clippers will have an infrasonic HP cut. Finally, consider your listening environment. Unless you’re mixing in an anechoic chamber you will have reflections off your room boundaries and equipment (diffraction). All of these are out of phase with the direct sound and yet you enjoy the listening experience and don’t hear the reflections as overtly smeary (unless you’re in a bad untreated room perhaps). Cheers!
Thank you for the video. I don`t know what to think about the TV commercial "bling blings" sounds for wrong and right :) All that's missing is the applause being faded in from a comedy show.
I have to agree, I see the point of those noise FX in youtube shorts to maximize attention but they‘re definitely not neccessary and rather distracting in such a long-form video.
Thanks for the feedback man. This was my first attempt in a new production style, and as is common, you often have to overdo something before you find the sweet spot. I always listen to people who speak up, so I'll try to do better with the next video and thanks for taking the time to write in.
@@warpacademy I can see how it would work for the right genres of music, but I write a lot of dub/dub techno, and that Drive control gets dirty even at a few %, so still not sure it's the tool for me...
Try clipping the low end less by using the shift parameter. It’s your low end that will likely be causing distortion. And back off the wet dry. Then also make sure the output clipper is not getting triggered.
I'm already doing the master inside of my mix instead of mastering engeneed. And you know what? I'm achieving -8 lufs every time without any mastering and is sounds freaking loud. So loud actually, that i can throw into my mastering chain plugin alliance masterdesk, just select the preset and i'm getting -5 lufs without audible distortion. Just remember: don't try to FIX, you need to mix.
You can’t even compare them. They’re totally different animals. Kraftur is meant more as a sound box, coloration device. Use it more like a Saturator when you want to really add some spice. Gold Clip can be much more clean and transparent because it can hard clip but you wouldn’t push it as hard. Also Gold Clip has the upwards compression thing that can be useful. I’d really want both. They aren’t substitutes. Cheers!
I know this is paid promotion and I genuinely think it's amazing plugin, I couldn't justify spending more money this year on a hobby and occasionally fiver gigs 😅 So I made my own version with multiband splitter and invigorate 😊 It's not as convenient as single plugin, but still delivers 😁
Cheers Dave! Thanks for watching and commenting. I'm big into clipping in my workflow and genuinely use Kraftur on a ton of projects. Not sure if you saw, but Kraftur is currently on sale for Black Friday and Cyber Week 30% off. Maybe that helps! Neat idea to make your own rack with Invigorate too. All the best!
@warpacademy Yeah I saw it... I have already spent on sonible bundle tbh. I was sleeping on sonible for far too long, I tried demo and considering how often I used everything during trial period... I had to be decent human and get it 😅 Regarding Kraftur, I genuinely liked it... But I was just not reaching out for it enough tbh. :) Thanks for great content 👌😁
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Hey Dan. As @ProudSausage (bonus points for the oddball username BTW) pointed out, it's really not in the same ballpark. OTT (both the XFer free plugin and the preset for Ableton multi-band dynamics) is a multi-band effect yes (with noticeably phase-smearing crossovers BTW) but it's a compressor. Compression is a completely different animal to clipping. They typically do not waveshape, they have envelope-driven amplitude modulation with attack and release which can produce bad artifacts, they really don't control peak level in such a precise or exact way (unless you use a INF:1 ratio and lookahead but still....). They are similar in that they both reduce dynamic range, but you can think of the clipper as a color box with maximum loudness potential and the OTT compressor more as a squasher. All the best!
Hi great content as usual! I do wanna say though most of the extra clips + sound fx come across a bit cheesy and forced. One of the great parts of this channel is that it gives great quality value without all that extra unecessary bits. I only got 5 mins in before starting to get put off by them. Experimenting is important to grow so if you wanna add these types of clips and fx either tone it back a bit or make them less cheesy and more on brand and tasteful. Just my 2c because the channel is awesome and want to see it grow well!
Hey hey. Sweet username BTW! I'll be sure to take your feedback into consideration. I'm definitely experimenting with new video production styles, as my previous style of video production was not growing the channel substantially. Through my experimentation it's important to me to find the right balance, and I'll keep working with different approaches to see what works best. Although you may have liked my previous production style, the results were clear: they were not working in the RUclips algorithm. Engagement was low, people only watched the first 3 minutes on average, and it was categorically unsustainable for me to keep producing videos like that - for free. I rely on view count and engagement to produce partner revenue that makes this viable. The data never lies. Although very different to my previous videos, this video is outperforming them by a factor of 10X. So...because substantial growth is necessary for me to make this my focus, I plan to continue with this style or something even better performing as I discover it. Whenever you change anything on a channel, you alienate some people and attract new ones. This is a good example of that. If you have any other thoughts or advice, given this information, I'm all ears. Cheers!
Yeah of course, totally understand! I should have also emphasised I'm not referring to the quicker animation style/delivery of information either, that works perfectly fine and is definitely appropriate in today's RUclips. I was more the hung up on stock bits of b-roll and FX which could probably be found on 50 other videos. What if say instead you filmed tiny little skits? If they were cheesy it would still be funnier and tasteful because it's more personal, authentic and memorable which people would connect to better, it's the same way a lot of people get big through tik tok. They also don't have to be elaborate, I'm sure a lot of the b rolls could be replaced with a simple funny idea that could be filmed in 5 minutes. Obviously time is a big factor and I'm sure you're busy enough as it is just some ideas to experiment with :)
Hey hey. Kind of. First of all, it's not a bad mix; it's a fantastic mix with a crest factor problem. The mix itself is wonderful and I love it, but the dynamic range is preventing it from getting into the loudness range I want it in during the mastering phase. So, the fix for the mix is crest factor reduction. A clipper is a great way to achieve this, but you do not just crush everything into a mastering clipper. Kraftur is a multi-band soft-clipper. It's intended for use in the project as a mix effect on sub-mixes (busses), individual sounds, or the mix bus. I used it for stem mastering, where I could process the collection of sub-mixes as less complex material than the master itself. Then I processed the master more lightly than it would have been processed if you just rammed the more dynamic mix into the clipper. Hope that makes sense. Feel free to ask any clarifying questions. Cheers!
this is the worst plugin i tried. and you are literally promoting this? this plugin is just bad guys. i get what i need with saturn and standard clip in 3 secs while this thing destroys my low end. good luck with this .
It can take a bit of getting used to in how to set it up. It’s easy to avoid clipping much low end. You just use the low shift. I have Saturn and Standard Clip as well so I’m very familiar with workflow in all those tools. Saturn is great because it’s multiband. Standard Clip I rarely use.
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I demo'd this plugin way back in July and bought it within 10 minutes of testing it. I knew Soundtheory was bringing their reputable heat with this one. Great breakdown of the parameters as well. You gave an excellent walkthrough of how it works and eleviated some confusion on a few things. Bless.
Thanks for watching. I'm glad you found it helpful! That's great you bought it. Wishing you all the best with using Kraftur in your mixes. Cheers!
It would be so funny if you just put a gain plugin on.
Ha! That's a good 5 second video idea ;)
I bought this on release. So innovative in design yet intuitive and sounds great. I have a v1 looptrotter sa2rate and carnaby HE2 hardware saturation boxes, but the convenience of having instances on multiple buses is invaluable. Plus Soundtheory is an awesome company and I like supporting their continued development
Right on. Fully agreed there. Glad you picked it up. Enjoy using Kraftur! Cheers mate.
Thanks!
Thank you SO much! Greatly appreciated.
Great work
Brings out the drums in a more depth way!
Appreciate it! Glad you enjoyed the video. Clipping on drums is a great way to add loudness, grit, power, and aggression to the bus. Especially if you work in parallel.
Thank you for sharing these tips. Is it possible to include a Lightspeed template fro Studio 1 users? Keep up the good work.
Thanks very much. I don’t use Studio 1 although Luca does. I’m sure if you know how to do basic bus routings in Studio 1 you could replicate what I’ve done by watching the video.
Also if you’d be into helping make a Studio 1 template maybe I could coach you through it. Reach out via our Warp Academy website contact form if you want to try that.
Been looking for a plugin that does this the whole week, thanks!
Happy to help! Glad you enjoyed this one.
@@warpacademy just recently found your channel and really appreciate it, thanks again!
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Thanks for the video and good explanation of this common issue and how to fix it. I undestand this is a promoted video and Kraftur seems to have its place in making a dedicated and versatile tool for the job.
However before buying yet another new plugin I suggest everyone to try even ableton stock plugins like new saturator (you could also experiment with roar if you need multiband), which also have different clip algorithms.
The trick is to compare in a good osc (I use PsyScope) with a waveform view of your channel. And also use your ear to a/b. Then dial in just enough to shave those nasty peaks and without changing the characteristic or body of the original sound. And doing this I was able to achieve 6 LUFS using just saturator and the stock limiter on the master. Before clipping it would begin distorting much earlier.
I haven't tried Kraftur and it might do the job better, but in the end I also have neutron 5 which also has multiband clipper now, and ozone for mastering, so keeping critical about it and not get another new plugin for the same job, is always a good time to stop and consider 😅
Hey hey! Thanks for the kind words and the well-thought-out comment. I get you. I mean, I'm an Ableton Certified Trainer, and the DAW has some amazing tools and effects, especially when you Rack things up. The new effects and new aspects of old effects in Live 12 are really big level-ups.
That said, the Ableton Saturator and Limiter are very different types of effects to Kraftur. Neutron 5 with a multi-band clipper would be a closer comparison, as you pointed out.
The big thing to note here is that when you run a complex signal into a single band gain reduction stage (clipper, limiter, saturator etc.) you will get intermodulation distortion - which universally sounds bad. Multi-band gain reduction, and generation of harmonics by using a band-limited signal, produces significantly less intermodulation.
Plus, as another commenter pointed out, the low frequencies will always make the clipper distort badly first. It's always been a bit of an engineering hack to put a subtractive low shelf before a clipper to attenuate that, and then an equal additive low shelf after the clipper to restore that frequency.
So a multi-band clipper is a much better solution where you get less intermodulation and you also get to clip each band the perfect amount with full control.
That's my take on it. And it aligns with what you're saying too. If your goal is not to change the characteristic or body of the original sound, a multi-band clipper will allow you to preserve the roundness of the low end and not over-distort compared to a single band saturator / limiter / clipper.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Cheers!
@ Yeah, tbh I've done just one test and there I didn't notice much issue, probably because the tracks were fairly simple and treated separately. Still worth looking into, and keeping the mentioned hacks in mind, if for some reason you are limited to stock plugins.
Like said was able to get much louder mix at the master limiter than without it. And no audible distortion. Alternative hacks: you could try building your own multiband or try roar which does multiband and has probably the same clippers as saturator, but can't really comment on that as haven't tried it fully yet. Building your own multiband with eq crossovers and effects rack can probably introduce some phase issues too which is usually better handled in a ground up built multiband plugin.
So that said, Kraftur looks a good option and now on sale the price is actually not that bad. ;)
Right on. Well said. Yeah Roar is awesome. I love it and works great as a multiband Saturator. Cheers!
Thank you for sharing all the videos and ideas i look forward to videos learning
I'm stoked you found it helpful! Happy music making!
Hi! Nice video. What's your microphone? Sounds so good!!
Thanks! It's a Lewitt LCT-440 Pure condenser mic, running into a Rodecaster Pro V1 audio interface with FX active. Note that the final sound of my audio is heavily processed in post and mastered using a chain of about 8 plugins. So the audio from the mic is quite different from the final sound (still good, but just don't expect to plug that mic in and have it sound like this). Cheers!
@@warpacademy Thank you for your answear!
My pleasure.
You can drop the ceiling in Kruftur.
I mean - kind of - I get you. Technically, you can link all the Shifts and move them down. But they're restricted the range to 6 dB of movement, which is quite a small range. Not ideal workflow - and I did show that in the video. It's better workflow to drive up into the clip point using the Match function IMO, which is why I explained it that way.
Unless of course you're talking about the output clipper, which does have a ceiling you can drop. I also showed and explained this.
@@warpacademy Bottom right corner. CEIL is adjustable, dropping the ceiling. Because you mentioned that Kraftur is a clipper where you push the signal up into a fixed clip point but in reality it can do both function. Drop the ceiling or push the signal TO the ceiling.
BTW the range for bringing down the threshold of each band of each band is +18dB not 6dB. -6dB increases the threshold from which the clipper will start processing. Kind of confusing but just checked it. Mind double checking yourself maybe I got it wrong don't know.
Hey hey. It’s important to understand that Kraftur is 2 clippers. Watch the video again and you’ll see. When I talk about using Drive up into a fixed clip point I’m talking about clipper 1 - the flexible multiband / single band / parallel clipper.
You’ve pointed out clipper 2 - the output clipper. This is a single band clipper with no parallel control and I specifically said in the video that it has a ceiling you can drop down into the signal as well as a gain (drive) control to push amplitude into the ceiling.
You can think of the Shift as a band specific ceiling sure. But it’s best adjusted only after you drive the signal up so it hits the clip point. That’s much faster workflow. Then, if you want to, you can adjust the band specific shift / ceiling.
I think you may be right about the range being +6 / -18. I’ll have to check. Their manual doesn’t say.
Edit: That is correct. The Shift parameter goes from +6 to -18. Good catch!
Hello, how about a Light speed template for Studio One 7. 🎉😊🎶. 😉
Yes, I'd love to. In fact, Luca works in Studio One so the initial inspiration for this template was from Studio One. The issue is I don't use Studio One, but I am looking for someone who does that I can coach to re-create this template. If you'd be up for that, and if you know how to do routing in Studio One, then reach out to me via our Warp Academy site support form and mention this conversation you had with me. We could collab on one. Cheers!
I always wanted a multiband clipper, cause when I want to clip my snare or kick, general clippers always harm the low end, so it would be a great plugin, thanks 🎉
Exactly. It's the low frequencies that will cause much more audible distortion with a clipper. So it can be a great technique to clip the LF less, or reduce the LF before it comes into the clipper. A multi-band clipper is perfect for this. Cheers!
Next tutorial: how to widen a track stereo without raising peaks and without losing musical definition
Thanks for the suggestion!
@warpacademy
With pleasure, I am looking forward to it since I want to raise RMS level from -4 to -2 without raising integrated loudness from -8 LUFS. Sounds mathematical but it always gives good results and the song sounds wide but It doesn't happen in all songs I widen sometimes I need to have -6 LUFS to get -2 RMS
You can’t raise the RMS loudness of a song without also raising the reading in short term LUFS. The calculations are very similar (the averaging window is 300 ms vs 3,000 ms).
How is this much different from KClip in multiband mode?
Yes, the interface is quite different and snazzy in Kraftur; but you're still just isolating multiple bands and clipping them separately with varied settings and then recombining them.
Very good question. I also have K-Clip. In fact, it was the first clipper I used. That said, I'm not a huge fan of its multi-band configuration. The crossovers in Kraftur are extremely well designed. They are similar to the crossovers in the Neumann KH420s actually, which sound very transparent. The Director of Research at Soundtheory has his Phd in theoretical physics, and that knowledge went into the plugin and crossover design.
The other aspect of Kraftur that sets it apart is the precision of the calculations for the transfer curve. They are done in a way that is extremely smooth, which has a particular and noticeable sound. It also produces less aliasing.
So while both are multi-band clippers that can soft-clip, Kraftur is a noticeable step ahead IMO.
Yeah, just echoing Vespers, I have both. When using the delta listen in multiband mode on k-clip, you hear a lot of sound especially in the highs bleeding through that isn't being clipped. That's the crossovers. I think if k-clip had linear phase crossovers that would fix the problem, but that would be a lot more CPU intensive and really beyond the scope of what k-clip is trying to be. I wish I could use the multiband mode of k-clip without worrying about it, but I have to worry (in a mastering context) if it's sounding better because I have the clipping just right or if the filters are just changing the phase of my sound in a way that I like. With Kraftur, I do not have to ask myself that question - if what is coming out of Kraftur sounds good it is because I have the right clipping settings.
I still use K-clip all the time btw, Kraftur isn't perfect either. I really wish Kraftur had a harder transfer curve as it's baseline. I have to go back to K-clip when I want the "cleanest" clipping I can get, if that makes any sense. I just always use K-clip in single band mode. My dream clipper is still K-clip with better crossovers.
Well said. Yeah I also wish Kraftur would run a hard clip mode. There are lots of times I want a perfectly linear transfer curve right up to the clip point. And I typically use hard clipping more than soft when mixing.
As opposed to K-Clip, have you tried Schwabe Gold and Orange Clip? They are the best single band clippers on the market IMO. Both have hard clipping modes.
Regarding crossovers. It’s interesting to note that Krafturs crossovers are not linear phase and yet they sound completely clean and transparent. I always thought you needed linear phase crossovers for that but I was proven very wrong in an extensive conversation with their Director of Research and learned a ton about crossover design.
Cheers!
@@warpacademyI grabbed the demo, but I found it unintuitive to navigate even though it's a simple design. I'm not really understanding the spectral display and what we're supposed to be looking for on the X and Y Axis. I wish there was just some normal feedback and metering... like, you're clipping 2.3dB in the low band, 3.5 dB in the mid band, etc. it feels like a lot of guesswork and, really, I don't have time to train my brain for a new feedback system that isn't an improvement on existing metering and immediately understandable. It feels like it's a bit too clever for its own good.
At the very least there needs to be a better, comprehensive explanation video because the manual is minimal at best and thin on laying out some use case examples.
Hey hey. Yeah I had the same experience learning it. I found the visual feedback was hard to make use of compared to a more bare bones clipper.
It’s one of those tools that you really dial in by ear. And isn’t that really the best way? I mean, it really doesn’t matter if a meter is showing you 1 dB or 6 dB of clipping. That’s just a number. What matters is the sound. We don’t experience music with our eyes.
That’s where I got to with it. I really did want the metering and the numbers too! And I did ask their team for that. They listen and they did recently put in the crest factor reduction meter, which is good.
And I know they plan to continue adding features. This first version is for launch and more to come.
You should message them and let them know your feedback :). Cheers!
you don't get phase issues with kraftur?
Hey hey. If you load Kraftur up in Plug-in Doctor you will see full phase rotation at each crossover frequency. Note I said see and not hear ;)
The crossovers are minimum phase, not linear phase, and they have been designed that way very intentionally. They are very transparent. Linear phase crossovers have many downsides as well, which is why they didn’t use them.
In terms of minimum phase crossover design, note that the human auditory system is quite insensitive to phase shifts and also that any playback and recording chain already has a ton of phase shifts in it.
For example, my main monitoring system with Neumann KH420s have a non linear phase crossover system and I don’t hear it at all. Nearly all microphones will have some sort of highpass cut filter. And nearly all saturators and clippers will have an infrasonic HP cut.
Finally, consider your listening environment. Unless you’re mixing in an anechoic chamber you will have reflections off your room boundaries and equipment (diffraction). All of these are out of phase with the direct sound and yet you enjoy the listening experience and don’t hear the reflections as overtly smeary (unless you’re in a bad untreated room perhaps).
Cheers!
Thank you for the video. I don`t know what to think about the TV commercial "bling blings" sounds for wrong and right :) All that's missing is the applause being faded in from a comedy show.
Thanks for watching and for the feedback! I always take comments into consideration when I'm experimenting with new styles. Cheers!
I have to agree, I see the point of those noise FX in youtube shorts to maximize attention but they‘re definitely not neccessary and rather distracting in such a long-form video.
@@warpacademyagreed with the others here. Some are cool and not distracting, but the “blings” and a few others are unnecessary/distracting
Thanks for the feedback man. This was my first attempt in a new production style, and as is common, you often have to overdo something before you find the sweet spot. I always listen to people who speak up, so I'll try to do better with the next video and thanks for taking the time to write in.
Okay, noted! I appreciate you letting me know and I'll keep that in mind for the next videos :) All the best!
I bought this plugin 😊
Glad you picked it up. It's a workhorse!
thanks
No problem
Thanks, another great video. I'm going to give the demo of Kraftur a run, see how/whether it can replace any of the limiters I've got on my tracks.
Let me know what you think. Hope you enjoy the demo!
@@warpacademy I can see how it would work for the right genres of music, but I write a lot of dub/dub techno, and that Drive control gets dirty even at a few %, so still not sure it's the tool for me...
Try clipping the low end less by using the shift parameter. It’s your low end that will likely be causing distortion. And back off the wet dry. Then also make sure the output clipper is not getting triggered.
@@warpacademy Thanks, that certainly helped. Decided to pick up a copy while it's on special.
Great Vid, Thanks!
Thanks! I'm stoked you found it helpful.
I'm already doing the master inside of my mix instead of mastering engeneed. And you know what? I'm achieving -8 lufs every time without any mastering and is sounds freaking loud. So loud actually, that i can throw into my mastering chain plugin alliance masterdesk, just select the preset and i'm getting -5 lufs without audible distortion. Just remember: don't try to FIX, you need to mix.
Hey hey! I hear you. Thanks for sharing!
@warpacademy it's kind of not the secret at all. I hear it all the time. More work you take from mastering engeneer better master it will be
Link to the template on the website seems to be broken?
Hey hey. It was down for a moment, but it's fixed. Try this: warpacademy.com/vespers-lightspeed-template-download
Which is a better clipper, Kraftur or Gold Clip?
You can’t even compare them. They’re totally different animals.
Kraftur is meant more as a sound box, coloration device. Use it more like a Saturator when you want to really add some spice. Gold Clip can be much more clean and transparent because it can hard clip but you wouldn’t push it as hard.
Also Gold Clip has the upwards compression thing that can be useful. I’d really want both. They aren’t substitutes.
Cheers!
Thank you a million times for the reply and for all of your knowledge. 🙏🏽
My pleasure mate.
I know this is paid promotion and I genuinely think it's amazing plugin, I couldn't justify spending more money this year on a hobby and occasionally fiver gigs 😅
So I made my own version with multiband splitter and invigorate 😊
It's not as convenient as single plugin, but still delivers 😁
Cheers Dave! Thanks for watching and commenting. I'm big into clipping in my workflow and genuinely use Kraftur on a ton of projects. Not sure if you saw, but Kraftur is currently on sale for Black Friday and Cyber Week 30% off. Maybe that helps!
Neat idea to make your own rack with Invigorate too. All the best!
@warpacademy Yeah I saw it... I have already spent on sonible bundle tbh.
I was sleeping on sonible for far too long, I tried demo and considering how often I used everything during trial period... I had to be decent human and get it 😅
Regarding Kraftur, I genuinely liked it... But I was just not reaching out for it enough tbh. :)
Thanks for great content 👌😁
Sounds like solid reasoning to me! It's always good to support the companies who's tools you use. All the best Dave and happy music making.
Thx nice video and good info love it
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks!
is this a sponsored video?
Yes. This was a very high-production-cost video to make and our sponsor, Soundtheory, made that possible. Whenever I take on a brand deal like this, I clearly disclose it using RUclips's sponsored content feature (it displays in the upper left corner of the video saying "Contains paid promotion.").
As an added bonus for all of my subscribers and followers of the channel...Soundtheory is doing a giveaway of 3 licenses for Kraftur very soon in our Discord server. So don't miss that!
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@@warpacademy great job as I bought one ;-P
Right on. Hope you enjoy it!
OTT can do the same thing. Basically multiband Upwards downwards compression. Small moves.
That's not at all what it does
Hey Dan. As @ProudSausage (bonus points for the oddball username BTW) pointed out, it's really not in the same ballpark. OTT (both the XFer free plugin and the preset for Ableton multi-band dynamics) is a multi-band effect yes (with noticeably phase-smearing crossovers BTW) but it's a compressor.
Compression is a completely different animal to clipping. They typically do not waveshape, they have envelope-driven amplitude modulation with attack and release which can produce bad artifacts, they really don't control peak level in such a precise or exact way (unless you use a INF:1 ratio and lookahead but still....).
They are similar in that they both reduce dynamic range, but you can think of the clipper as a color box with maximum loudness potential and the OTT compressor more as a squasher.
All the best!
Real noob here 😅
@@warpacademy Give me the download link. I will show you. It might sound better.
Let’s not be mean. I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve been off base about audio concepts over the years. It’s a complex field.
I am Jack’s mix routing template.
People tell me I look like Edward Norton.
I dunno why but I was pretty sure the man could have been Luca " Digital Boy " Pretolesi ...
Hey hey. Not sure about the "Digital Boy" thing, but his name is certainly Luca Pretolesi. Cheers!
Hi great content as usual! I do wanna say though most of the extra clips + sound fx come across a bit cheesy and forced. One of the great parts of this channel is that it gives great quality value without all that extra unecessary bits. I only got 5 mins in before starting to get put off by them. Experimenting is important to grow so if you wanna add these types of clips and fx either tone it back a bit or make them less cheesy and more on brand and tasteful. Just my 2c because the channel is awesome and want to see it grow well!
Hey hey. Sweet username BTW! I'll be sure to take your feedback into consideration. I'm definitely experimenting with new video production styles, as my previous style of video production was not growing the channel substantially.
Through my experimentation it's important to me to find the right balance, and I'll keep working with different approaches to see what works best. Although you may have liked my previous production style, the results were clear: they were not working in the RUclips algorithm. Engagement was low, people only watched the first 3 minutes on average, and it was categorically unsustainable for me to keep producing videos like that - for free. I rely on view count and engagement to produce partner revenue that makes this viable.
The data never lies. Although very different to my previous videos, this video is outperforming them by a factor of 10X. So...because substantial growth is necessary for me to make this my focus, I plan to continue with this style or something even better performing as I discover it.
Whenever you change anything on a channel, you alienate some people and attract new ones. This is a good example of that. If you have any other thoughts or advice, given this information, I'm all ears. Cheers!
Yeah of course, totally understand! I should have also emphasised I'm not referring to the quicker animation style/delivery of information either, that works perfectly fine and is definitely appropriate in today's RUclips. I was more the hung up on stock bits of b-roll and FX which could probably be found on 50 other videos. What if say instead you filmed tiny little skits? If they were cheesy it would still be funnier and tasteful because it's more personal, authentic and memorable which people would connect to better, it's the same way a lot of people get big through tik tok. They also don't have to be elaborate, I'm sure a lot of the b rolls could be replaced with a simple funny idea that could be filmed in 5 minutes. Obviously time is a big factor and I'm sure you're busy enough as it is just some ideas to experiment with :)
Right on. I appreciate the ideas. Cheers mate!
let me recap, so you're fixing a bad mix, with a monster mastering plugin?
Hey hey. Kind of. First of all, it's not a bad mix; it's a fantastic mix with a crest factor problem. The mix itself is wonderful and I love it, but the dynamic range is preventing it from getting into the loudness range I want it in during the mastering phase.
So, the fix for the mix is crest factor reduction. A clipper is a great way to achieve this, but you do not just crush everything into a mastering clipper. Kraftur is a multi-band soft-clipper. It's intended for use in the project as a mix effect on sub-mixes (busses), individual sounds, or the mix bus.
I used it for stem mastering, where I could process the collection of sub-mixes as less complex material than the master itself. Then I processed the master more lightly than it would have been processed if you just rammed the more dynamic mix into the clipper.
Hope that makes sense. Feel free to ask any clarifying questions. Cheers!
this is the worst plugin i tried. and you are literally promoting this? this plugin is just bad guys. i get what i need with saturn and standard clip in 3 secs while this thing destroys my low end. good luck with this .
It can take a bit of getting used to in how to set it up. It’s easy to avoid clipping much low end. You just use the low shift.
I have Saturn and Standard Clip as well so I’m very familiar with workflow in all those tools. Saturn is great because it’s multiband. Standard Clip I rarely use.