DeWALT's New Top Impact Driver DCF845 Dyno'd vs Latest Makita & Milwaukee

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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    Today we test the all new DeWALT DCF845 XR 1/4" impact Driver vs the latest Milwaukee M18 Gen 4 2953-20 and Makita XDT19Z.
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  • @luisprieto4390
    @luisprieto4390 Год назад +389

    Last summer when I was replacing a metal roof in my rental, I had my xdt16 while my buddy had his fuel. He kept bragging about how much more powerful his fuel was, but by the end of the day, he would reach for the Makita. Point is, smoothness, comfort, and features outweigh the slight power increase

    • @connorm1600
      @connorm1600 Год назад +42

      1000% agree

    • @dirtyvinyl8817
      @dirtyvinyl8817 Год назад +21

      Yup, thats why I bought a the Fuel Surge Hydraulic impact hammer over the standard Milwaukee Fuel impact when it came to using it daily, Its smooth, quieter, and more comfortable to use over my head which is what how it was always going to be use and I didnt need the stronger impacts for the screws id be using anyway. Though i found myself wishing it did have more power when i tired to use it to take off some lug bolts from a car once, I know it wasnt the tool for the job but, it would have been nice.

    • @opennanoor44
      @opennanoor44 Год назад +7

      More control with the xdt16. I found the 2853 high rpms can make it frustrating. That thing is so easy to use full force and then you're spinning the bit in the screw head.

    • @ChrisBranleh
      @ChrisBranleh Год назад +18

      There are some things that this channel nor any channel can discuss. That’s comfort and ergonomics for each individual

    • @jeremynguyen2346
      @jeremynguyen2346 Год назад +1

      @@dirtyvinyl8817 hello

  • @ChrisBranleh
    @ChrisBranleh Год назад +26

    XDT19z paired with a 2.0 Makita battery is a match made in heaven. Lightweight and compact like a 12v, smooth as silk usage, and 18v capacity with a 5.0 battery. I’m a believer.

  • @tjtobin86
    @tjtobin86 Год назад +113

    Dewalt is interesting (and coming from someone is highly invested in the yellow brand). They make some tools that are just amazing! And then others that make you wonder why they bothered releasing an update. I’m willing to bet there are some heads of departments in dewalt engineering that differ greatly on what they demand of their teams.

    • @melvingibson4525
      @melvingibson4525 Год назад +8

      Dewalt engineering? No they just throw together whatever parts their Chinese suppliers have.

    • @THEBEARDEDTOOLGUY
      @THEBEARDEDTOOLGUY Год назад +8

      It's ok but I have tested it against the 840 and they are About the same but the 5 amp Power Stack does give it more Power I'm Surprised they did not try it with the 5 amp power stack

    • @TheMetalButcher
      @TheMetalButcher Год назад +9

      @@melvingibson4525 That's why the DCF900 is world class, yea.

    • @backalleybuddy6793
      @backalleybuddy6793 Год назад +6

      @@melvingibson4525 Just as an FYI, most Milwaukee tools are still manufactured in China. Milwaukee Tools is also owned by the Chinese electronics giant TTI.
      Milwaukee does seem to be pushing for more "Made In USA" manufacturing, but they are literally in the same boat as Dewalt tools. This being said, Milwaukee doesn't have as bad of a track record of releasing random useless tools like the DCF845.

    • @melvingibson4525
      @melvingibson4525 Год назад +2

      @@backalleybuddy6793 oh yeah they do the same thing. Just pick Chinese parts off the shelf and put it together

  • @aaronneher4860
    @aaronneher4860 Год назад +33

    All these impact drivers are now to the point of max power that’s allowed through that tiny hex collet. I think rather than just sheer beans you really need to take weight, length, trigger pull, and vibration into account a little bit more on your scoring system. They all do the job of an impact driver, now which one is the best, not the most powerful

    • @joshuaewalker
      @joshuaewalker Год назад +12

      That's a good point. Impact drivers need to do a whole decathlon of jobs, but it seems all we're measuring anymore is how much they can bench press. At this point they're all pretty strong and strength isn't everything.

    • @docj8257
      @docj8257 Год назад

      @@joshuaewalker It is nice to know though if you are putting in large deck screws how much power they have. I converted from Ryobi to Milwaukee and I am blown away with how much easier everything is with the crazy power Red puts up. I have used my impact driver to take my trucks lug nuts off and happily didn't snap the adapter. Granted it doesn't take 10 seconds to do that, so that is likely why it didn't snap- kinda cool it can do it though.

    • @joshuaewalker
      @joshuaewalker Год назад +3

      @@docj8257
      It's more important now with the subcompact models but even the DCF850 has a crazy amount of power. Judging how good an impact is today is a lot more about ergonomics, weight, size, settings, options, and quality of life improvements.

    • @georgedavall9449
      @georgedavall9449 5 месяцев назад

      Very astute comment!

  • @7mpowerd
    @7mpowerd Год назад +4

    My Xdt19 allows me to assemble ikea without worry on busting through the wood. Superb trigger.

  • @clarkfos3447
    @clarkfos3447 Год назад +19

    Great video as always TTC! I can't wait to see what the newest 40v Makita TD002 DST impact driver puts up at only $170 from Japan it's definitely worth a shot. The original 40v Makita GDT01 impact driver was a big let down no doubt.

    • @pflaffik
      @pflaffik Год назад +2

      The GDT01 was only the best, for those who actually use their tools. Torque numbers on an impact driver is too useless, my most used impact is 220 in.Lbs, super weak but by far the most useable impact driver i ever had my hands on. Still love the GDT01 though, a precision instrument with no competition in its class, battery life with smallest XGT battery is unbelievable. Too superior in real life.

    • @clarkfos3447
      @clarkfos3447 Год назад +2

      @@pflaffik you're right but from a strictly torque standpoint which is all this channel benchmarks it was very underwhelming even compared to both of the 18v Makita's on the Impact driver list.

    • @engineer_alv
      @engineer_alv Год назад +1

      @@pflaffik who makes a 220 in-lbs impact driver? I can't even think of hydraulic impact drivers with such numbers.
      Torque matters once you cross the threshold of 2 or 3 inches deck screws. RPMs and IPMs can only take you that far without torque to keep sinking those screws in.

  • @realandrewhatfield
    @realandrewhatfield Год назад +10

    Lets get your subscriber count up, and maybe companies will stop listening to marketing BS and actually improve their tools before asking us to buy new ones... Another great video, thank you for letting me purchase the 850 instead of the 845!

    • @pflaffik
      @pflaffik Год назад +1

      Torque isnt the only metric though, its easy to make an impact driver that will break every 1/4" bit but such a tool isnt useful. Its about time we demand that all tools are made like Makita XGT drivers - same rpm, ipm and torque with full battery and with 1 bar left on the battery, consistent throughout the working day.

    • @realandrewhatfield
      @realandrewhatfield Год назад

      @@pflaffik I get your point, and the guys do say its a good tool. I guess I was just looking for a better curve given the claims of increased speed, torque, etc. Tired of having to double-check every claim tool makers have by coming here or PF, etc. to check.

    • @georgedavall9449
      @georgedavall9449 5 месяцев назад

      @@pflaffik Good comment, however a lot of DeWalt tools will run the tool same speed right down to when the battery/ tool shuts down. This was the promise of LiOn tools, but not all of them do. As with anyhting, YMMV. I am not a Dewalt fan boi, as I own and use nearly all brands. DeWalt has always been known to run the tools hard, to the detriment of the batteries. The old NiCad batteries never could keep up with the tools.
      Take care

  • @Aspire198
    @Aspire198 Год назад +7

    I found the makita by coincidence, a store had it on clearance for AUD$200 for some reason, bloody love it, especially the speed switch button just above the grip

  • @plsreleasethekraken
    @plsreleasethekraken Год назад +17

    When you brought up the nice trigger on the Makita, it reminded me of how much that matters on an impact. I got the DCF850 for $100 and it is a tiny beast. The power was unreal for its small size. That being said, I hated using it because it was such a blunt use of power. It stripped everything out if I wasn't super careful before I started in on the meat of the screw. The extra half second it saved on a 4" screw wasn't worth all the trouble when starting all the screws. The Makita TD172 is a dream in this respect and I gladly trade the small power increase and accessibility for the tightest of spaces of the 850 for the better user experience of the Makita.
    Another reason to buy the Japanese impact is the build quality and components inside are slightly better than the US version. One point against it is that the bit chamber is made for 13mm impact bits rather than 8/9mm, so your bits swim in there without an adapter.

    • @gipsasl
      @gipsasl Год назад

      Hi i am considering buying the dcf 850. I am a cabinet maker and don't need a ton of power. Would you say that even on speed one is too much power?

    • @tigercat8905
      @tigercat8905 Год назад +2

      Don't know if you're into makita. I have a 850 but for 1/2 - 3/4 wood using screws I always use my subcompact 18v makita. Small screws, thin wood you can have too much power

    • @plsreleasethekraken
      @plsreleasethekraken Год назад +1

      @@gipsasl yes too much power and not much finesse. for cabinet making I would stick with a drill or maybe the M12 hydraulic which is very quiet but has plenty of power for that application.
      On the DeWalt side I'd go with their 12v impact or installation driver.

    • @gipsasl
      @gipsasl Год назад +1

      @@plsreleasethekraken Thanks, appreciate your opinion. I'll probably go with the DeWalt 12v impact and see how I get on. I'll probably buy the DCF 850 eventually but don't want to spend too much money in one go.

    • @plsreleasethekraken
      @plsreleasethekraken Год назад +2

      @@gipsasl I have no personal experience with it, but I do know a cabinetmaker who likes that new DeWalt installation driver because of the attachments (90 degree, offset). He said those are a life saver for certain screw positions.

  • @browsebywire4096
    @browsebywire4096 Год назад +5

    Glad to see the DCF 840 finally got tested(err 845). Not totally surprised by the results. After seeing the 840 go up against 850 and 887 on other channels, it was clear that while it is very fast, certainly comparable to the others, it demonstrably weaker/slower by a bit in head-to-heads. It's nice to see the actual numbers compard though.
    It's all the more convincing that the 840 and 845 are identical outside of cosmetics and adding the old (outdated) 3 position switch. I'm surprised they decided this would take the XR name. I expect that they'll release a new model in a year or two that has a digital switch like their impact wrench line up, and a more powerful motor. I can't help but wonder if they have a bazillion of those 3-position switches and they keep using them in the 850, 845 models, just to use them up, before converting it all to the digital buttons. Every other brand is ahead in that regard. It's not even a fancy feature anymore and it certainly doesn't cost much to do it. I digress. The 845 is nice looking, but ot begs the question - why id they even make the 840? Why not dorectly make a 20 volt version of the Extreme model and call it good?

  • @roberthoffman4713
    @roberthoffman4713 Год назад +11

    I like watching your videos. These impact drivers have gotten so powerful they twist off the 1/4 socket adapters. I don't use it enough to notice fatigue from hammering. If I used it all the time I am sure I would probably look into comfort more.

    • @jimsale9824
      @jimsale9824 Год назад

      Speaking of socket adapters…do you or anyone else know which brand they use in these tests? I’ve broken so many off in my impact drivers over the last year or so

    • @markf3229
      @markf3229 Год назад +1

      Your right most of the top brands with motors that can handle the torque are limited.
      Its no problem with getting enough torque, its maintaining the strength and able to replicate it many times over.
      If they torqu it up too much they will rip the head off coach bolts. The remedy is tungsten screw bits but then will stay intact but the screw/ bolt will not. Overall solution would be too costly by having tungsten screws and bolts unless your working on assembling the Space Shuttle.
      So it all boils down to consistency and longevity

  • @emiliog.4432
    @emiliog.4432 Год назад +33

    I will always stick with my Makita tools. There’s something special with Makita. You can feel it even if they don’t always have the coolest form sometimes.

    • @jackmyhre8759
      @jackmyhre8759 Год назад +7

      I used some old craftsman drills and impacts for years now. But then I bought a Makita Impact/Drill set. I was hooked first screw I installed. It was so god damn smooth and comfortable

    • @workisfun...2438
      @workisfun...2438 Год назад +3

      Agreed. Makita all the way.

    • @izoyt
      @izoyt Год назад +1

      milwakue etc is just about maxing motor and battery out, so the brag with power etc. but in reality they will just fail much sooner, have high noise and vibration and overall quality is low.

    • @Eleventhhour113
      @Eleventhhour113 Год назад

      ​@izoyt lol this is not even close to true. As someone who literally uses his impact for hours and hours a day as a garage door tech i can tell you in 7 years i have never replaced a single milwaukee battery and only gone through one tool. In 4 years i went through 3 makita tools and 4 dead batteries. Not saying they are garbage, but if reliability is what you're after i can promise you that Milwaukee wins. At least in impact drivers.

    • @workisfun...2438
      @workisfun...2438 Год назад +4

      @@Eleventhhour113 interesting. And I know guys that will tell you the exact opposite. 😉

  • @wearsjorge55
    @wearsjorge55 Год назад +23

    That makita is a joy to use on the job but there are like 2 models that have surpassed it in Japan now (seriously the last 4 models didn't last 12 months before being replaced)
    I still think personally that bang for buck you can't go wrong with the TDT154Z (Australia model number) it's just a great all around impact even though it's older

    • @engineer_alv
      @engineer_alv Год назад +2

      that's also known here in North America as the XDT14Z. It's about $50 cheaper than the XDT16Z/TD171. Not bad

    • @YuriDontPlay
      @YuriDontPlay Год назад

      @@engineer_alv i got that but the drill sucks

    • @YuriDontPlay
      @YuriDontPlay Год назад

      @@engineer_alv ima upgrade to the 16z tho and with a better hammer drill kit

  • @DK_tk3
    @DK_tk3 Год назад +3

    In my opinion the makita has one of the nicest impacts. It’s smooth and doesn’t have A wobble. My dewalt looks drunk next to my partner’s makita that’s years old. But I’ll never switch.

  • @cdnaudioguy
    @cdnaudioguy Год назад +38

    I've always felt that Makita puts more effort into the user experience and quality than the other brands. Your comments about the trigger back this. As for the smoke coming out of the Milwaukee, I'll continue to avoid their "brute force and ignorance" approach to tool design and stick with Big Blue.

    • @izoyt
      @izoyt Год назад +4

      "brute force and ignorance". well what can be more murican than that, lol.

    • @drshadowfan96
      @drshadowfan96 Год назад +1

      The Makita is smooth and comfortable, but the triple hammer metabo has a more sensitive trigger and more user options.

  • @Joethetoolguy
    @Joethetoolguy Год назад +15

    Thats the song of my people

    • @stauker.1960
      @stauker.1960 Год назад +1

      Brrrrrrrrrrrrrt

    • @PFab
      @PFab Год назад

      I'm wondering why they didn't put the 840 up against these dewalts. 840 vs 845 vs 850

  • @charlesromley
    @charlesromley Год назад +5

    The Japanese Makita impact drivers take a different but to the rest of the world. There's is a 13mm bottom compared to the rest of the world which is 9mm. Makita actually make a piece where you can fit it into the collet of the Japanese impact driver. It's part number Makita A-44672 which can convert the Japanese impact to take ordinary driver bits

  • @53racecar
    @53racecar Год назад +4

    I'd love to see you test the caterpillar impact and drill from lowe's with that graphene battery. Thank you for another great in depth video!

  • @SuperHondaFitDriver
    @SuperHondaFitDriver Год назад +1

    Thank you so much I love that you take the time to do this!?

  • @frankbeans2175
    @frankbeans2175 Год назад +2

    I'm a firm believer in buying tools that you have chargers for. Also Milwaukee.

  • @JorgeAlvarez-ex3vs
    @JorgeAlvarez-ex3vs Год назад +5

    Could you please compare the Ryobi PCL265K1 vs the P262 as they have similar specs with different pricing and technology? Also, could you test both with 2Ah batteries? I'm asking this not only for convenience, but also because in other countries like Spain, the PCL265K1 kit includes a 2Ah battery just like the P261 did before it (And still does).
    Also, I've seen some 12v car emergency impact wrenches with a really big inertial hammer. They seem to compare best to mid torque impact wrenches, while giving less but more powerful impacts. Btw, they are cheap and their build quality seams to be really basic.

  • @gidderman
    @gidderman Год назад +1

    I think where the 845 will excell over the shorter 850 will be heat diasppation. Its got more aluminum, it should bleed the heat better...

  • @declanfarber
    @declanfarber Год назад +13

    It would have been interesting to see how the 845 stacks up to the 887.

    • @THEBEARDEDTOOLGUY
      @THEBEARDEDTOOLGUY Год назад +3

      Done it on my RUclips channel and even 845 against the 921 DeWalt needs to make a Impact Driver Based on the XR DCF 891 just about 3/4 the SIZE now DEWALT can take on FLEX

    • @declanfarber
      @declanfarber Год назад +2

      @@THEBEARDEDTOOLGUY Hmm, it looks like the Milwaukee gen4 would be a much better upgrade from the 887 than the 845, if every second counts. Driving fasteners of that size.

  • @DewaltFanboy
    @DewaltFanboy Год назад +8

    I got the DCF850 when it came out and I love this impact. I recently got the m18 drill/impact combo and i love those too but the 850 is just so cool cause its so tiny but packs a punch

    • @jacobsebastien3910
      @jacobsebastien3910 Год назад

      Does your DeWalt 850 atomic have trigger issues?

    • @DewaltFanboy
      @DewaltFanboy Год назад

      @@jacobsebastien3910 Not at all, I use it for everything. Its sucha an amazing tool. The compactness is what got me, i love that when need to attach 2 cabinets and one of them is like a spice rack or something small.

  • @DESX312
    @DESX312 Год назад +81

    I have both XDT16 LXT impact and the first gen XGT Makita impact.
    Their impacts feel like surgeon scalpels. Just super well balanced and a pleasure to use.

    • @codustv1465
      @codustv1465 Год назад +5

      i have the xdt16 as well its great i roofed 15 carports with self tappers in one day with it. I do not see that being great with the dewault 850 or milwaukee even tbh.

  • @freiahuk3844
    @freiahuk3844 Год назад +1

    on my 4th makita impact, and i love them, none of them did break or have problems, a couple batteries has been shattered, from the times they have fallen 10+ meters to the ground,
    ive left them out in rain and snow from days to weeks at a time, all of them still works, only reason im on my 4th its because my company update all impacts and other screwdrivers, every now and then, and they let us keep the old tools, otherwise i would still be on my first or second.
    I also think japanese made makita its overall better quality than romanian made.
    I dont really like dewalt tools, just not the same quality and smoothness, but i have always been using their lasers, they are the best
    Milwaukee i have no idea, its a plumbers brand here in my country,
    if anyone cares lol

  • @light-master
    @light-master Год назад +6

    I've got the DCF850 (thanks to your video about it). I never use it in mode 3 cuz mode 2 is more than fast enough. Definitely don't see much use in a faster but less powerful one that's also a little bigger.

  • @BigDGolf-23
    @BigDGolf-23 11 месяцев назад

    I know you guys are testing the large lags for science, but it cracks me up watching people drive those with an impact driver instead of a drill driver or an impact wrench.

  • @PhillyFixed
    @PhillyFixed Год назад +9

    The one opportunity to purposefully kill a tool I didn't pay for, and I failed. But -- we'll meet again, Milwaukee... Meanwhile, love that XDT19. Trying to convince myself not to spend $255 on that TD173DZ...

    • @clarkfos3447
      @clarkfos3447 Год назад +2

      I'm in the same boat but I can't justify it already owning the Japanese TD172. I think I'd rather buy the TD002 40v DVT impact driver for $170. I skipped the original 40v XGT impact driver and I'm glad I did.

    • @dsgamecube
      @dsgamecube Год назад

      The original died in reverse, and the clip they showed didn't show you running it in reverse at all. That might have been where you missed the opportunity.

    • @PhillyFixed
      @PhillyFixed Год назад

      @@dsgamecube that's a good point - I still suspect TTC's was a fluke but it merits further investigation. It's hard to do "soft" torque in reverse, though.

  • @riba2233
    @riba2233 Год назад +3

    great test as usual! imho this one doesn't make sense to me, same price and power as TD172, but larger and no modes, also worse trigger.
    Milwaukee really like to smoke eh, I would like my tools to have temp protections set below the smoking threshold tbh.
    Also there are two more XGT makita drivers that you can test, TD002G and new TD003G that is coming to US if it hasn't already, that one is a bit cheaper variant with less features (GDT02Z usa model). It is available at acme for 160usd already

  • @SomeGuysGarage
    @SomeGuysGarage Год назад +9

    Interesting that the DCF845 has less beans than the smaller Atomic...would be pretty hard to justify. The couple Atomic tools I have now have been pretty impressive, I think Dewalt messed up positioning them lower than XR, it's made the line up more confusing than it already was lol

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Год назад +9

      DeWALT seems very skilled at randomly placing new models on lines that dont totally make sense, but I guess that's job security for tool tubers. Have to figure out where it actually belongs.

    • @FusionBoost2.0
      @FusionBoost2.0 Год назад +1

      In other tests I've seen on RUclips, the 845 is faster then the 850 at lags, screws etc

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Год назад +1

      @@FusionBoost2.0 Makes sense depending on the size. Higher RPM & IPM

    • @FusionBoost2.0
      @FusionBoost2.0 Год назад

      @@TorqueTestChannel Yup, 850 still really strong as you can tell by the torque just not as fast but it's smaller haha

    • @SomeGuysGarage
      @SomeGuysGarage Год назад +1

      @@FusionBoost2.0 yeah, more of a case of how much work can it do instead of just how much torque it has.

  • @dantheman2520
    @dantheman2520 Год назад +2

    would like to see the new 845 tested with a powerstack 5ah battery, would like to see if it makes a big difference being a new tool

  • @MattJonesYT
    @MattJonesYT Год назад +1

    Need to test which driver lets out the best smelling magic smoke when it dies

  • @ZeroFallout1
    @ZeroFallout1 Год назад +5

    I'm on the Makita and Dewalt platform but mostly Makita. Picked up the DCF 891 and DCF 921 this Black Friday because of TTS. That and the Makita XWT14Z never dropped to below $200. I decided to get the Dewalt battery kit for $200 with DCF 921as free tool. Makita has never failed me and the smoothest out there. All day ergonomics is better than just a little more power. Only the youngens think power is all that is needed. If you look at the XDT19 its smaller than the Milwaukee Gen 3 and 4. If they wanted to they could make an impact driver more powerful than Milwaukee but the ergonomics and reliability would go down. Makita is about making small, ergonomic and reliable impact drivers. Many Makita tools beat the Milwaukee counterparts and smoother. Yet the team Red Fangirls will tell you Milwaukee is Number 1 in every tool.

  • @Mooza1
    @Mooza1 Год назад +1

    That Makita has already been replaced, the TD172 has now been updated to the TD173. The main difference seems to be user interface only though.

  • @agentmango
    @agentmango Год назад

    You mention machine screws for electrical; to avoid crossthreading I like to reverse first to feel the threads get ready to engage, then fasten. (I also do that when refastening screws back into the same hole in wood.)
    I've got an old Mastercraft 4V screwdriver that has a trigger that can rock up or down for forward or reverse. Very convenient for that, and the light weight of a 4V screwdriver is quite handy for DIY electrical.
    Have you ever considered doing some test of 4V and 8V screwdrivers? It'd be interesting especially if there were models that could be set to cam out at a few in lbs (#6 and #8 machine screws) and at 15 in lbs (making connections to outlets).

  • @thereloadingcraft
    @thereloadingcraft Год назад +1

    Jump of excitement when a TTC Impact driver hits the feed! 😁

  • @mcluvin28x
    @mcluvin28x Год назад +1

    Wish you could test the DeWalt with the 5Ah Power Stack battery

  • @Audir8cjb241
    @Audir8cjb241 Год назад

    Price is now the defining factor. I have seen the DCF845 go for $199 in a kit compared to $398 for the DCF 850 in a kit at Home Depot.

  • @nguyenhaianh8070
    @nguyenhaianh8070 Год назад +2

    Makita just released td173 few in japan. I very much hope you will test it

  • @longlowdog
    @longlowdog Год назад +1

    Which bit adaptors are living through these tests? That's what is fascinating me.

  • @kennedymcgovern5413
    @kennedymcgovern5413 Год назад

    The DeWalt 648 performs very well with the 5AH battery. For day to day usage, I cannot imagine needing more than it gives you that way. But if you are going to test to find out it's very best, max performance it is necessary to couple it with the 6AH battery.
    I know you know this, but since you only used the 5AH here, I am assuming you forgot.

  • @bcrou712
    @bcrou712 Год назад +2

    The feel with the makita is tops. Others are good too but not balanced as good as makita

  • @sammccollum2985
    @sammccollum2985 Год назад +2

    You guys should do a video on impact torx and hex bits since they seem to break like crazy and I would love to find something that's not Snap On that can deal with being used.

    • @SpaceGh0st
      @SpaceGh0st Год назад +1

      Seconded. I work on power wheelchairs and there are a lot of 3-6mm hexagon bolts that just destroy my bits. So far the wera and wiha bits and impact adapters I've been buying have been pretty solid, but I am still having to buy replacements every 3-6 months with how much abuse they see daily.

    • @GM-kb8yu
      @GM-kb8yu Год назад

      I break snapon ones too, every tool will break with enough use, and/or, the last guy used a 3/4in breaker to tighten that T40…

    • @sammccollum2985
      @sammccollum2985 Год назад

      Yeah, notice I said "deal with being used," not "be completely unbreakable." It's very hard to know who makes a quality impact torx

  • @Shakshuka69
    @Shakshuka69 Год назад

    Dude I've been using a Milwaukee 2553-20 on my Landcruiser project and it zips off every bolt with ease. I have a Dewalt DCF-900 and use it for nothing but lug nuts and suspension bolts. I don't even see a need for a mid torque.

  • @Milhaus_yt
    @Milhaus_yt Год назад +3

    I bought the gen 4 Milwaukee 2 weeks after it came out. On mode 3 it loves to snap the heads off tapcons. Gen 3 never bad this problem. I leave it in mode 2 and it still has plenty of power to drive in a 2 1/4” tapcon

    • @nyag1337
      @nyag1337 Год назад

      I do HVAC so I use a lot of 1/2” speed points. I’ve had this same issue with snapping off heads while using a M18 5.0 XC. I leave it in 2 gear. M12 with CP 3.0 is fucking amazing a lot of power

  • @OUTILSCLIPSQC
    @OUTILSCLIPSQC Год назад +1

    Love my gen4 fuel its perfect

  • @sw86241996
    @sw86241996 Год назад +1

    Milwaukee is getting ridiculous, only concrete huge power gain does not shame on the social media, Gen 4 Body like a TANK to carry large hammer. Impact driver should be designing more comfort, smooth and light weight. Also, narrow nose is another good benefit when you work at tight conner, like nail gun with angle head. Makita did the good design and user friendly, remember as tradesmen you need hold tools for 8 hours a day especially carpentry and cabinet maker.

    • @chesapeakemotorwerks
      @chesapeakemotorwerks Год назад

      it depends on the application its used for. I use the milwaukee for working on cars and welcome the extreme output even though I know it's not application it's intended for. Strong output, size, and trigger control are what matter for me. Since it's not run long, the comfort & smoothness don't matter a lot for my use.

    • @sw86241996
      @sw86241996 Год назад

      @@chesapeakemotorwerks probably impact wrench for you rather than driver.

  • @georgiafan6618
    @georgiafan6618 Год назад

    That was a cool comparison. I thought Dewalt would have have been stronger. I have Milwaukee driver tools but I have tools from Makita, Dewalt and Bosch. They’re all pretty good. I recently picked up a Bosch drywall gun and the beefy battery didn’t have any protective rubber on it. One decent drop and that’s gonna crack or chip. My Waulkee batteries are swathed in rubber. I always drop them. 👍

    • @ratchetwise440
      @ratchetwise440 Год назад

      Yea. Gotta be delicate with them . My old corded Magum screwpistol has been dropped a lot. Maybe 5-6 times in 40 years.43. Got it in 1980 PHDE (pre homeless despot era)

  • @willhutton1516
    @willhutton1516 8 месяцев назад

    So my dad got me the Dewalt DCF 840. I haven’t seen many or any videos on it.

  • @VIP-ry6vv
    @VIP-ry6vv Год назад

    I only buy the red wunz cuz they faster (actually because matching is more important than performance). But it's interesting seeing where everything lines up.

  • @brandonspencer300
    @brandonspencer300 Год назад

    mastercraft, the in house brand of canadian tire up here in the north, has a newer brushless impact driver claiming 2800 in/lbs. If you plan to keep doing these I'd be interested to see if those claims are legit as that's pretty significantly higher than big brands for a lot less money.

  • @BotakIsBald
    @BotakIsBald 9 месяцев назад

    Please do a dyno of china brand like dong cheng, dca, dck, worx etc...

  • @LawpickingLocksmith
    @LawpickingLocksmith Год назад

    Nice! Thanks guys. Watching from Australia and using Ozito branded toys.

  • @John_Redcorn_
    @John_Redcorn_ Год назад +1

    Has the Ridgid impact been tested here? They claim 2300 in/lbs 😳. Be nice to see what it can do, as i like the Ridgid stuff with their lifetime warranty (im just a diy’er, not a pro). Im still rockin an old brushed Milwaukee M18. Lol. Still goin strong tho

  • @mcmlxv9827
    @mcmlxv9827 7 месяцев назад

    Fuel Gen 3 and 4 are awesome. I had many issues and failures with Default in the past, what a waste of money. I switched to Milwaukee a few years ago. They've held up to long term use and abuse.

  • @witnessingdaily4327
    @witnessingdaily4327 Год назад

    How small is Philly Fix? I was thinking the impact was comparably small until he held it, and now it looks huge.

  • @progengu478
    @progengu478 Год назад +2

    Will you consider testing some bosch drivers too??

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Год назад +4

      There's 4 on this driver list, but yes we can do more

    • @progengu478
      @progengu478 Год назад

      @@TorqueTestChannel thank you guys

  • @jasonvandervalk3679
    @jasonvandervalk3679 Год назад +1

    I would say dewalt did a awesome job on the dcf850 I use it daily! In my opinion the dcf845 isn't a upgrade.

    • @jacy123
      @jacy123 Год назад

      Have you run into the no spin issues with the 850 that I’ve seen reported numerous times? many people say it just doesn’t spin occasionally when pulling the trigger.. I need to get an impact to replace my 840 which had an issue with the chuck no longer holding bits in after only a few weeks. So I returned it.

    • @jasonvandervalk3679
      @jasonvandervalk3679 Год назад +1

      @@jacy123 a couple of times but nothing that happeneds all the time. I've been using mine for over a year works great

  • @ibitaRaptor
    @ibitaRaptor Год назад

    I hope you do an Oil impulse impact driver video in the future.

  • @abdomination
    @abdomination Год назад

    I'm happy with my Makita XDT19. I mean I got it the kit with a combined kit price of $180.

  • @zoltanliszkai2162
    @zoltanliszkai2162 Год назад

    I had a gen 2 Milwaukee impact driver ( until Oak motors West pretty much stole my tools) that would take any lug nut off even on a pickup. can't imagine even more power

  • @alexp6016
    @alexp6016 Год назад

    Interestingly Hercules just released their new brushless 1/4" driver, advertising 2,200 in-lb... I wonder how that will compare.

  • @contax50mm
    @contax50mm Год назад

    Milwaukee always has a lot of power. But no finesse. Honestly just use a mid torque impact wrench for the larger stuff.

  • @DavidLawhorn82
    @DavidLawhorn82 Год назад +1

    Thank you, you guys rock

  • @maivh5050
    @maivh5050 8 месяцев назад

    Best tools test chanel

  • @bobbystewart2605
    @bobbystewart2605 Год назад

    Would u be able to do a comparison video of ryobis regular drill and hammer drill along with other brands and their counterparts?

  • @jackkesler5586
    @jackkesler5586 10 месяцев назад

    If he put the socket on that 5/8 lag straight it would have went all the way

  • @spedracer55
    @spedracer55 Год назад

    You guys are gonna have to test the new Hercules impact

  • @g8beast679
    @g8beast679 Год назад +1

    I regret selling my DCF850. Damn you Dewalt!!!

    • @FusionBoost2.0
      @FusionBoost2.0 Год назад

      The 850 still don't have the speed and power of the 845... Tests online pretty well show it

  • @bigclam7483
    @bigclam7483 Год назад

    You guys should see if you could get your hands on king canada impact

  • @nfi2nfi2
    @nfi2nfi2 Год назад

    “Let’s see if we can break this thing” proceeds to place his hand over the motors vents. Can’t help but think these guys just love spending there time taking tools back for warranty.

  • @scottbionicnerf8727
    @scottbionicnerf8727 Год назад

    Thanks for continuing to be an awesome channel.
    And, for a change, I have some personal, past experience with the new Makita vs the new Milwaukee,(also known as "a screw snap'n sum'bitch.)
    That being said, I still preferred the 840 if given the choice.

  • @jingyu69
    @jingyu69 7 месяцев назад

    Should use the 6 ah max xr battery for dewalt

  • @MrEuph714
    @MrEuph714 Год назад +2

    I love my DCF850, but now I am not looking to get the DCF845. I am curious how the DCF840 compares since a lot of RUclipsrs say it is more powerful than the DCF850.

    • @stevenjones2893
      @stevenjones2893 Год назад +2

      I would also like to see the numbers the 840 puts up. Lowes always has the kit on sale, small cheap batteries, but who can complain when u get a bag, 2 batteries, charger, and awesome driver for $100. It's been my goto driver for a while now.

    • @g8beast679
      @g8beast679 Год назад +1

      I had the 850 and sold it. Got the 840 instead since it is less expensive and similar to the 845 without a switch. I dont regret getting the 840 instead of the 845 because of cost. But i do regret selling the 850. It is a beast by itself.

    • @cmrsxxcmrs
      @cmrsxxcmrs Год назад

      @@g8beast679 make sure you run it with at least 4 ah battery since the ones that come in the kit are trash.

  • @homelesszaya.6548
    @homelesszaya.6548 Год назад +2

    I revamped ALL my cordless tools..... did a complete 180. From Milwaukee to dewalt. I've not been let down yet. (Mind you I had a small collection 2 m18 drills , 3/8 stubby impact. 2 m12 impact drivers ) now to all 3 stubby dewalts. As main characters in my cordless lineup. All 5AH BATTS , and again tough to deny the dewalts ability.

  • @DallenRex
    @DallenRex Год назад

    I guess the dewalts are sort of separating themselves between a regular impact driver for fasteners in construction and their little impact that can get inside of tight spaces for mechanics with a bit more torque focus, but at that point, you wonder why it has the hex collet at all... The little guy is so short that it competes with right angle impacts, but you box it out of some places just by having to slap a socket adapter in it.
    I guess it's nice if you can get away with that being your only small impact tool. It has some genuine torque and a tiny frame. Something like the atomic + their current mid torque could be an appealing, "do just about anything" combo for most people out there.

    • @chesapeakemotorwerks
      @chesapeakemotorwerks Год назад

      I use the milwaukee for working on cars and it handles about 95% of the fasteners I throw at it, even including wheel lugs at times. Yes the hex collect is the wrong model for this but it's the one sold as a package deal & commonly available.

  • @jeremiahduke9430
    @jeremiahduke9430 Год назад

    got the fuel gem4 love it, got the 16t makita love it more, yet my always go to is my metao hpt impact...just feels good all day while workimg.

  • @PerfectSnowball
    @PerfectSnowball Год назад +1

    Looks like I'll keep my 887

  • @Stevesbe
    @Stevesbe Год назад +2

    Makita is the best for driving screws accurate the feel is amazing its Almost like it knows what you want cabinet work👍👍👍👍👍👍👍💯
    I have the 3 speed 14 model and it's been flawless for 5 years I use it daily paired with the batteries I made

  • @saiiiiiii1
    @saiiiiiii1 Год назад +1

    I do own the Milwaukee and Makita. While the Milwaukee clearly has more power, the Makita is a joy to use. The Milwaukee not on this level at least...

  • @pianomail
    @pianomail Год назад

    Once again I am asking for the new Bauer Brushless impacts to be Dyno tested!

  • @funmachine3
    @funmachine3 Год назад

    How’s the Dewalt 840 match up?

  • @Hittin2thabass
    @Hittin2thabass Год назад

    Do you have the tool ranking for the smaller 1/4 chuck impacts? You have the larger square pin in the description

  • @tylerfraker7716
    @tylerfraker7716 Год назад

    Sad the new Hercules Brushless driver didn’t make it into this video, just saw them in my local HF earlier.

  • @RyanRKJ
    @RyanRKJ Год назад

    Max torque is not something I seek out in this category. That just breaks those adapters.

  • @andrewkennedy9704
    @andrewkennedy9704 Год назад +1

    Must be Friday somewhere......

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Год назад +1

      Hence the "At LEAST every Friday" we say at the end of videos :D

  • @joemehere1151
    @joemehere1151 Год назад

    Nice job! Thanks

  • @KM-os4be
    @KM-os4be Год назад

    Thanks Got the Makita xdt19z a few weeks ago. Nice trigger however the light did not work out of the box. Not something I was expecting from Makita. Have 2 older Kobalt drivers that are still holding up fine. Both of them have more power than the Makita.

    • @jackbauer5710
      @jackbauer5710 Год назад +1

      Read the manual. the lights can be turned off

  • @GarbageDanks
    @GarbageDanks Год назад

    "Its not the size of the dog, it's the size of the fight in the dog".
    Right fella's?

  • @billS560
    @billS560 11 месяцев назад

    I buy DeWalt for my company. It's frustrating to never know if you are getting quality. I use many brands myself, with Milwaukee my favorite. I can't stand the yellow inconsistency.

  • @m.n.2523
    @m.n.2523 Год назад

    Could you please also test the Milwaukee 7/16" ?

  • @j.d.gilbert6028
    @j.d.gilbert6028 Год назад

    I am wondering if you could doe any bigger air impacts because if I want to know how impact does I come to your channel that would be greatly appreciated

  • @grapphiiczak
    @grapphiiczak Год назад

    one thing ill say about new impacts there an absolute menace and honestly make too nuch power.......using robertson screws here in canukastan might be fine with torx but i generally use my m12 rather then my m18 just because i find even driving 3.5 #10's it'll bounce out all the time but if it dosent it does drive them almost as fast as a nail gun

  • @Gabriel-vj1cf
    @Gabriel-vj1cf Год назад

    Why do you have to block the air vents when you were trying to kill it.

  • @wyattmoon2955
    @wyattmoon2955 Год назад

    you should compare snap on 14.4 volt tools to matco 16 volt tools.

  • @mareprah
    @mareprah Год назад

    Would you be willing to include the Parkside Performance PDSSAP 20-Li B3 in your tests? It is a little beast and at a price that is reasonable for hobbyists. But it has to be the B3 version, because the B2 had some faults. Thank you in advance for your reply.

  • @brianrobinson1259
    @brianrobinson1259 Год назад

    I have had the first a second gen Milwaukee and they are bulletproof. My gen two finally gave up the ghost so I now have the gen 4. It’s been fantastic. I only went with it because I already have the batteries and chargers and all the other tools. We have makita at work but I’m happy with my Milwaukee tools. They’ve never failed me yet…I only paid $134 for the gen 4 Milwaukee new so a decent cost savings.

  • @porcupinedivine470
    @porcupinedivine470 Год назад

    Man you can get the drill set makita for like 199, or 399 w 2 free tools at home chepo

  • @ManCaverTools
    @ManCaverTools Год назад +2

    Im back TTC. I just wanted to purge my subs to change what comes up on my home page.