Penacony's Stellaron Theory | Honkai Star Rail
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- This is just a theory... But I do think we might have overlooked the fact that penacony's stellaron is still here somewhere, waiting to be discovered.
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Misha is 100% the character we should all be keeping our eyes on. His design SCREAMS that he either IS the watchmaker, or is heavily related to them (he potentially is the unknown character “Mikhail of which “Misha” is a nickname for “Mikhail”)The keyhole iris, the clock related technique and trace names, the fact that no one ever directly acknowledges him other than the MC, the fact that someone looking exactly like him shows up in flashes of memories when we first enter the shared dream with Acheron, etc.
He’s definitely insanely integral to whatever is going on
He also often brings up someone referred to by him only as "Grandpa," which might have some additional mystery behind him.
I'm sure more about that and other things are revealed in his Story when a player obtains and levels him up
One other thing of note that I found really cool is that there was potentially ONE time that other characters could have acknowledged Misha, but there’s actually a loophole as to why they didn’t:
When you see Clockie, Misha, and Acheron surrounded by thugs you can say “it’s Acheron” or “it’s Misha”, or “both of them are people I know”
If you say “that’s Acheron” nothing special happens, but if you say “both of them are people I know” Firefly exclaims “both of them? What are you talking about?” Indicating she only sees one person.
However, I thought for a bit, what happens when you say “there’s Misha” shouldn’t that tip Firefly off about Misha’s existence? Well consider this:
Firefly only sees Acheron, but she doesn’t know her name, and Acheron never introduces herself to Firefly. So when the MC says “there’s Misha”. It’s reasonable to assume that Firefly thinks you’re talking about the woman she can see and probably assumes that Acheron’s name is “Misha”, since that’s what you said, and to her, there’s only one person there. Additionally, the name “misha” is unisex, which is why she likely doesn’t find it odd. This would explain why Firefly only questions things when you indicate that there are two people.
that makes absolute sense@@spiderdude2099
@@spiderdude2099You do have a point there
SPOILER ALERT FOR GALLAGHER'S LEAKED VOICELINES:
If you have seen Gallagher's leaked voicelines about Misha, it's clear that he knows Misha exists and can see him. So maybe Gallagher is somehow related to whatever is going on too?
Speaking of his abilities, his technique is pretty much a quote from Goethe's Faust... and where there's a Faust, there's gotta be a Faustian Bargain.
Considering that we got a story that contain angelic and demonic characters...you might be onto something. Penacony was supposed to be a jail, which hell could be considered to be as well. Maybe there is 9 levels to it too? Mihoyo do love the bible so I am sure we will see more things that relate back to the bible, Faust and Dantes Inferno...
@@Sakuyamon If there's Dante's Inferno going on, I wonder which of the characters are our guides. On a different note, I just found out that there's ideas assigning archangels as guardians to the 7 days of the week. Michael is Sunday's archangel and the associated color is blue. It'd be funny if Sunday and Misha are actually closely related.
Is it just me or is penacony giving some alice through the looking glass story/theme. Misha is the white rabbit and the monster/meme is the jabberwocky
I was thinking the same!
I mean his splash art literally has a plush-like bunny on it.
@@pudoy2767 i wonder who the other counterparts could be, we could assume we're alice... But who is the queen, the mad hatter etc
@@raiarthur7873 Who knows, we will find out in the next patch, which Im impatiently excited about. :D
@@pudoy2767 same!!
that empty hallway in 4:56 is accessible after the ending of part 1 Penacony main story. spoiler: there's only treasures and origami birds there. but I do think Misha is somehow connected to stellaron and I don't think his grandpa is his biological grandpa
That place is called "gallery of thoughts", we can access it again by entering it from the VIP Lounge on the right side of the map, there is a door symbol on the map that look just like the portal with a hand crawling near a rift.
!Leak warning!
He use a Stellaron to create the dreamscapes and monsters,so he created that one monsters that killed firefly too😭
leak spoiler
Of course the Stellaron would corrupt his wish like it did with Alisa's and Dan Shu's
When getting the sticker "Grandpa's work", there was a dialogue that shows (probably) Misha thinking about a tasked left by (what I'd assume) his Grandpa:
"Why..why has it come to this?
Calm down. It's just me left now. I have to complete the instructions he left behind. But how do I do it... How do I possibly complete it?
*Sigh* Is there no one who can help me?"
I think Misha was either talking about guarding the box (which probably failed bc Mikhail opened it, that's why Death escaped from it); or it's about the clockwork problem in Penacony where the emotions of the people are missing. Hence, he somehow conjured Clockie, a famous cartoon character to help him fix everything. I only thought about the latter because of the emotions being pictured as gears of a clock, and Misha's interview posted on HSR official account says he collects clocks and also fixed his Grandpa's pocket watch.
Another theory of mine is that Mikhail is an alter made by the Stellaron. The above quote from the game shows that Misha is alone with no companions. If his task is related to the Stellaron, it could've been his wish to have a companion that conjured Mikhail (or even the Clockie and the others)
They are manifested as the "Will of the Stellaron" that's why MC is the only one who can communicate with them (also applies to Clockie and the other's). If stellarons can manifest the will and wish of people (like the Supreme guardians' twistes wish), they could be continuing the a certain wish to "maintain" the hotel or the whole Penacony. If it the other way around and Misha is just a figment of Mikhail (if Mikhail is the true one), Misha could be just doing what Mikhail was supposed to do, just a copy of Mikhail like the side quest where the actor (Lesley Dean was it?) was recreated by his fan's wills.
My theory is that Misha is the grandson of The Watchmaker. And that Misha is Mikhael or Mikhael was his brother. Clockie runs up to Trailblazer and says that Misha is in grave danger. With the references of someone having the resolve to face death head on, I believe Misha is afflicted with something expected to be fatal. I think it might be entropy syndrome that Firefly mentioned. I believe that he was “disappearing” as happens with that syndrome, and it was his mother calling out for him. Not sure what happened to her afterwards. The Watchmaker then became desperate to save Misha and took the Dreamscape to a whole new level to preserve Misha and slow time to keep him from meeting his end. Perhaps he did use a stellaron to help him in his impossible task. But then obviously things started to go very very wrong…
The name “Acheron” refers to an ancient Greek god who was the master of the barrier between the overworked and the underworld. It was Acheron’s duty to keep the two world separate and to guard both from each other. It was also Acheron’s duty to ferry the dead to their proper destination. The barrier between the living world and the underworld was thought to be something like a river or any type of body of water.
I believe Acheron is true to her namesake and that she is the guardian and resident overlord of the in-between. SHE EVEN TOLD TRAILBLAZER THAT THEY HAD STUMBLED INTO THE IN-BETWEEN IN THE FIRST CUTSCENE after warping to Penacony!
So what is “the truth” of the Dreamscape? Why, it’s a gateway to The Underworld, of course! Or whatever version of The Underworld this Universe has.
If you choose to abandon the mission and not talk to Aventurine, you find out everyone in Penacony becomes trapped in The Dreamscape for eternity.
The Dreamscape is not just a dream.
It’s real and it’s dangerous and if humanity messes with it enough to risk opening the barrier between two worlds that should never meet, Acheron would be duty-bound to seal off their access back to their world to protect it.
Another note: I don’t think time flows normally in The Dreamscape. They could be in a loop for sure and trying to find their way out. Acheron seems to want to help but I think she’s duty bound to protect the entire universe over just the people of Penacony, so someone has to fix the potential universe-ending disaster before they will all be able to leave.
Oh, and it reminds me an awful lot of the Quantum Sea from HI3.
I actually dont think that Misha is invisible to others. Acheron might not have acknowledged his presense but that could be a red herring. One thing about Misha is definitively different from the other dream scape characters, and that is that he appears in "reality"...Or atleast what we thought was reality. Which could actually be another dreamscape, but lets continue to consider it as the real reality untill we have proof it isnt.
At this point, we have no proof that dream beings can move between dream and reality...we know only that they have technology to make items transfer from dream into reality, and that can probably only be done under supervision from employees.
There is a clue you completely missed though. Misha can visit the express. And guess what he say? That he is waiting for his Grandfather to return, once he is back, Misha hopes to go on a journey through the stars.
So I wouldnt be surprised if the Grandfather is the one named Mikhail. People do name kids after their parents and grandparents so it would make sense that Mishas name came from Mikhail too. I wouldnt be surprised if the grandfather is the Watchmaker either...or perhaps a descendant holding that title currently. Sure it sound odd if Misha used his grandfathers name, but kids sometimes do that, I did. It could be that the space just use Mishas voice as a standin because it cant replicate the real voice. Dreams are dreams after all, and dreams are often jumbled up and illogical.
About the Grandfather thing, in the version that I play in, the person calling out for Mikhail in A Child's Dream referred to Mikhail with a pronoun that's often used for male elders and referred to himself with a pronoun that's used when a child is talking to an adult. So the way he talked to Mikhail sounded like a grandson talking to his granddad or a child talking to someone old enough to be his grandpa. I also heard that in some versions, that person straight up called out "Grandpa Mikhail" but since I don't play in those versions, I can't really confirm anything and I don't know what the original Chinese version said
You know. The day that Penacony came out, while I was exploring around the golden hour and before I’d even gone to see Dr. Edward to get the Akivili memory bubble I jokingly said to my discord server: “What if Misha is actually the Watchmaker /j” because one of the watchmaker relic pieces reminded me of the pocket watch on Misha’s model.
When I got to the Child’s Dream area and realized he might actually (and it’s very quickly becoming a _definitely is_ ) related to the Watchmaker in some way I freaked tf out! Now two of my discord friends and I are working together to solve the mystery that is Misha lmao
Good Ideas! I think Misha has been build by the Watchmaker using the stellaron (Xype was there to make it possible) or Misha IS the watchmaker transformed by the stellaron and/or Xype. Or the Watchmaker struck a deal with the stellaron like Cocolia and Misha IS the stellaron...dumdidum..yes everything is possible in Dreams ^^
Misha was in the real world at the beginning of the World when we show up being the bellhop of the Motel. As for we only being able to see Clockie besides Misha is... We are the next Clockmaker and will be a main part on how we finish the arc with a new power up.
We can also meet one of the origami birds in reality, so meeting Misha at the start doesn't disprove the mounting evidence that no-one else does.
@@Adser261 We got to wait until part 2 of the story. I feel Misha will be involved with not only us, but the rest of the crew of the Astral Express. I'd not be surprised he joins as Misha is very interested in doing so.
Might it be a case of everyone going to Penacony is already dreaming? What is reality?
@@vulgar_oregano All is a dream when get in that water bed. Before that it's all real. Though the Trailblazer does have that one dream before all that.
@@RedWolfWindgear I'd like to think there are dream layers in penacony and reality is one of its layers so the trailblazer never really woke up from the dream and black swan is a virus with no body(memetic entity) which could not be seen in the real world under normal circumstances and penacony is like the sea and the more we go deeper the deeper we sink like the loading screens that penacony is sinking
I my self have no current story theory because it has not bases to go off but it is always fun to see your.
Edit: I believe that firefly is not dead because her death in the dreamscape and Robin's death was totally different. I mean why did Robin not turn into blue goo when she was stabbed by the meme( I believe that the meme killed her because as far as the story has emphasized, people are pretty safe in dream from harm). That also means that the meme is being controlled to go after specific target. Buy why Robin? It would make sense to kill firefly in case she wants to hide the fact she is the stelleron hunter. Could it be the watchmaker
I think that Mikhail is the stelleron..that why stelleron hunter is making their move
Make sense.And his model might be the yellow eyed one
My crack theory is that Mikhail is the Watchmaker and that Mikhail’s consciousness is sealed within Misha. Mikhail (Misha’s grandfather) was injured somehow perhaps by the meme when it was released from the box and he sealed himself inside Misha.
Misha’s pupils are shaped like a keyhole and eyes are said to be windows to the soul, I believe this means that “something” is locked away within him and perhaps fixing what his grandfather left to him is the way to free him.
Misha is the Watchmaker’s legacy because not only was he taught by the Watchmaker himself but also because he contains his consciousness or soul inside him making him a vessel of sorts.
Evidence to support this would be the existence of Heliobi and Memory Bubbles. If you do the side quest on Penacony about Chadwick you see how a Memory Bubble can preserve someone’s consciousness and what do we see a ton of in the true Dreamscape? Memory bubbles.
LEAK WARNING!!!!
Before the 2.0 patch was released I looked up leaks about the upcoming characters and one interesting thing I saw was a leak with Misha however his eyes weren’t purple with a keyhole pupil, they were yellow and Misha was making an expression that is very different from the ones we see him make.
We see Misha with a pure smile, he’s frantic, earnest, and happy to be of help however… the expression Misha with golden eyes had looked mischievous and cocky, quite a difference to the Misha we know which led me to believe the whole sealed soul thing.
Anyways that’s all I have for know and I know it isn’t reliable which is why it’s a crack theory, let me know what you guys think if you made it this far.
Lezzgooo Misha theory!!! I'm very excited with his part of the story
Me too! Im anticipating something with Mikhail and his grandfather
About the person calling out for Mikhail in A Child's Dream: In the version I played in, that person referred to Mikhail with a pronoun that's often used for male elders and referred to himself with a pronoun that's used when a child is talking to an adult. So the way he talked to Mikhail sounded like a grandson talking to his grandpa or a child talking to someone old enough to be his grandpa. I also heard that in some versions, that person straight up called out "Grandpa Mikhail" but since I don't play in those versions, I can't really confirm anything and I don't know what the original Chinese version said
March has more childlike innocence, well unless she's idrilla
Connecting what's happening in Penacony to a Stellaron makes so much sense. Even if Misha and the origami birds were dreamscape apparitions, the Trailblazer can see them in the very reception area of The Reverie, so it's definitely more than just dreams and childlike innocence.
By the way, I totally believe that by getting max level for Clockie's statue we will summon the true villain haha.
(Also without any concrete evidence) My theory is that the "Watchmaker" is Misha's grandfather, this person named Mikhail. The Watchmaker legacy is literally his descendants, AKA Misha, and his keyhole eyes are a metaphor that 'there's something locked inside'.
misha is just such a weird character. like why CAN he manipulate time, actually
i just realise penacony is a flat planet, like flat earth but rings.
I had always thought that Penacony was a gas giant and the only spot where people actually exist in is the Reverie
I thought it's artificially built like the Herta Space Station and the Xianzhou ships
@@Giovansbilly of course it is an artificially built planet. it's a ring planet like in halo but horizontal flat.
4:56 I think this is one of those weird card portal staircase rooms in a side-quest. I'm too lazy to get on Star Rail again to check right now though...
Am I an idiot? Did I get that correctly? I must have misunderstood. Only WE can see Misha??? Uh, I'll keep watching cause that would be my biggest face-palm yet if I actually played throughout this entire quest and didn't notice this. Got me re-thinking everything and every moment Misha made an appearance.
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