The real snowflake actually lived a pretty good life. He was rescued as a baby and was extremely well cared for his whole life and lived comfortably in the zoo and grew a big family. He did develop fatal skin cancer and was eventually put down before he was in unbearable pain, but he still made it to his forties and did alright for himself. Rest in peace Snowflake, you are worth so much more than this movie
@@issytheamateurnerd9877 This is the first time I've ever heard of an animal getting skin cancer. Is it common in gorillas, or was it because Snowflake didn't have any melanin for protection?
@@deen7530 Albinism has an increased risk of skin cancer because of the lack of melanin in hair and skin which normally provides protection from UV radiation.
@@deen7530 That's because Snowflake was albino and he had some mutation, but yes animals do get cancer. Also, he got a daughter called Virunga who recently died back in 2012 bbut who didn't inherit his albinism.
That's actually what happened me, I remember watching this on repeat when I was about 6 but I couldn't tell you the plot to save my life or why I watched it so much
I love how that other English dub actually had good voice-acting like with that one line (“YOU’LL NEVER BE ONE OF US”) and this one is just like “hhngh I don’t like you”
Yeah, better I suppose, but still...predators are built for predation and objectively physically more dangerous even though the animals are "civilized"...idk if it's a good thing comparing predatory animals with racial minorities...
Considering they changed Snowflakes gender just so they could have Ariana Grande as the star, I'm willing to bet that most of the script was changed as well and that the original Spanish version is VASTLY different in tone.
Reminds me of when in an English dub of another Hispanic-languaged movie by Harvey Weinstein of all people/companies, they decided to cast Ariana as the main female character with no personality other than the young woman waiting to be rescued and make sure Jennette McCurdy stays unpopular (well, with “I’m Glad My Mom Died”, look who got the last laugh on haters!).
@@kieranstark7213Luckily I got the copy of the film from Spain that also includes the original Argentine Spanish version. The movie is called Metegol, or Futbolín in Spain.
Ariana granda being in a movie called "Snowflake the White Gorrila" is the most fascinating thing I've heard this year....and theres been some pretty interesting things so far.
@@kaiserfoxi266 Ariana has been accused of cultural appropriation of african american culture a lot in the past (braided hair, darkening her skin, making songs with plenty of black rapper stereotypes ex ;7 rings) I don't have much of an opinion on it myself, but I think the cultural appropriation controversies is why Saber calls it ironic
I recently researched albino great apes for some reason (adhd rabbitholes don’t ask) and interestingly enough discrimination against albino mutants might actually be a thing in ape communities, at least there was one case documented where there was an albino baby chimp (I think, not 100% sure, might have been a gorilla) that, aside from their mother, other chimps reacted very strangely to. making warning sounds for danger when seeing them and it was eventually killed by other adults. Infanticide is unfortunately a not so uncommon occurrence though, so it’s hard to tell what the reason was. The surrounding situation was just bizarre. Anyways, the movie is obviously still ridiculous and none of that is in any way comparable to human racism, it just reminded me of that story lol
I read Sphinx cats also suffer racism from their "normal haired" peers so I can see it happens in apes, and now that we're upon the subject I seem to distincty remember albino children being mistreated in some african countries as well! Damn, they had a real life issue to tackle and they blew it in every way conceivable!
This is like a year old, but I wanted to point out there is literal discrimination against albino people. In some countries in Africa they have been killed for their disability. I know two Nigerian refugees who have come to Canada to get support for their disability and leave behind the ableism they faced back home. It's not the same as racism for sure tho.
@@AnikMonette Yes, in many African countries, where Albinism are more common, Albino children are not only discriminated against, but killed. even having parts of their bodies used for ritualistic medicine. really twisted stuff that's depressing to look into, but it's sadly still a thing in our modern era. (also just realized the person above me commented the same thing. sorry lol)
I think the dubbing might have been done back while Ari was on Victorious or Sam & Cat. Back when she was a supporting character on a teen sitcom, and absolutely NOBODY thought she would ever be as big as she is now. If she was offered this role now she would almost definitely say no, but back then she was a much more minor celeb which makes it less weird. (Still super ironic given the subject lol) Don't know why David Spade said yes, though. He was in the funniest Disney movie ever! He should've known this would've been nothing like it!
Not to mention that she would've still been a minor at the time, so it was most likely her manager/handlers that convinced her to do it and she accepted believing in their judgement.
My best guess is because this is secretly a Nickelodeon/Dan Schneider movie, made to make Ariana Grande look better than Jennette McCurdy by putting them in the same movie with Ariana as the lead so that a year later, they would make Ariana the famous one and Jennette the most overhated Nickelodeon member since Alexa Nikolas (it’s all Jamie Lynn (and most other cast members and Dan himself)’s fault!)
11:32 in the spanish version he actually wanted to be turn into a black panther, because thats what he feels he is in reality. They really changed everything
@@scp-682-cu6 also the villain apparently suffers bad luck on Donald Duck's level and wanted Snowflake's heart because apparently heart of white gorilla is a main ingredience to potion for eternal luck, not eternal life.
@@ivanacurna6577 Makes the movie even more fucked up and inappropriate tbh, since "killing an albino and harvesting their body parts for good luck" is quite literally exactly what happens to human albino children in some parts of the world to this day... definitely not something to make light of in a kids' movie for sure
There was a kid's book I really liked when I was little called Black Sheep White Raven and it was about like how there's an outcast on two sides of a family, not just one, and when they meet up one day they try to paint themselves the right color until all of it sudden it rains and washes the stuff off. :p So instead they decide to switch places. :? But as their both completely different species, with the black sheep trying to fit in with the family of ravens and the white raven mixed in with all the white sheep, the two families decided they hated this even more than they did with the outcasts so they end up actually missing them and wanting them back. :p Consider the usual metaphor for a black sheep being different from everyone else in their family for any number of reasons and maybe being considered an outcast for it, and thanks to Disney movies like Beauty and the Beast or The Hunchback of Notre Dame (or even Mulan with how a woman can't join the army, or at least the Chinese one back in the day apparently), I didn't even think it might explicitly be about racism, I just thought it was a nice message that their unique and special in their own way or something. :p I mean, in a literal sense, the rarity of such a species including an albino gorilla right here seems a lot cooler than the average folk to me... :?
I can’t believe they did my boy so dirty, not only was Snowflake a father of many children and lived a happy life before dying due to his own skin pigmentation, but he was respected by everyone. But this movie straight up just turned a movie about him, into a tone deaf anti-racism story, while changing Snowflake’s gender and identity for the sake of marketability! For shame!
Especially since the issue wasn’t just ‘Snowflake needed confidence’. He contracted skin cancer because of his albinism. In captivity a western lowland can live into their fifties. Cancer took him when he was maybe 38. He needed to spend time in sunlight to thrive but it was also something that killed him. Confidence wasn’t going to help that. If anything the movie could’ve been about how despite having this condition that eventually did take his life, he was able to find success and love. In spite of and because of this condition. Other gorillas clearly didn’t care, as he had three wives and 22 kids (and currently 8 living great-grandkids), and he remains a legend and an icon among people because he’s the only known albino western lowland gorilla.
Jennette McCurdy is also in the English dub. You know, the one who was forced to do acting by her mother. She wrote a memoir about it called "I'm Glad My Mom Died".
I love Jennette's book. Sadly my mother was a lot like hers, so I relate a *LOT* to what she went through. Good on her for bringing awareness to other victims of toxic parenting. ❤️🩹
my childhood was literally built off of these kind of movies, there was a movie rental place we went to all the time where there was a free section and it was just filled with awful movies like this
No, this was just a bad idea period. Okay an albino animal dealing with being outcast could have worked … but an albino gorilla, wanting to go see a *witch* so he/she can be turned black like the others … then he/she doesn’t use it right away? Why would you not use it right away???
@@LadyLeomon Incredibly late comment, but there's an interesting story someone made of their own original character with a plot premise that's extremely similar to this, being a pale albino cat is discriminated against by her clan of dark colored cats who worship corvids as they see her as a bad omen, and she tries to seek a way to be accepted by them. The character is a cat named Crowsong and there's a lot of animation and projects about the story on RUclips, it's worth checking out to see the idea done in a less disastrous way lol
Hello there, in the french dub of the movie (wich I presume is closer to the original script) the bad guy is introduced to be extremely unlucky (like curse level of bad luck) and his "trophies" are actually lucky charms meant to stop his bad luck. In his introduction, some random guy delivers him a new object said to make bad luck go away (there's a actually fun scene when he get's his item, where he's like "hey it worked, that thing on the roof didn't fall and crush you" to the deliveryman and I don't remember what but something bad happens, showing that he still has no luck). In this version he doesn't want snowflake for immortality but because it's supposed to be the strongest lucky charm in existence, also when he get to the witch she's like "no don't do that I already told you there's nothing that can be done against your curse". I have no idea why the english dub changed it the way they did but there you go
"Killing albinos and harvesting their organs as a luck charm" is unfortunately a very real thing that is done to human albino children in certain parts of the world to this day, so kind of really fucked up to include as a throwaway conflict in the haha funny gorilla movie. it might have been seen as passable for spanish and french audiences, but america is a bit more socially conscious, so i wager the higher ups decided it'd be better to play it safe and remove any of the more uncomfortable, dark, real-world connections to ongoing mass murder of disabled children.
@@hellothere9520 that might be the reason... people in america are always scared of mistaking fiction and reality, personally I don't blame the movie for choosing this path. I would say it makes the movie better by actually criticizing and making people aware of real world practices. Sad that it was in a bad movie
@@lehashura490 Just including a serious topic in the plot doesn't mean the movie is "criticizing" said practices, imo. Unless a movie fully commits to the commentary and says something worthwhile about the issue rather than just using it as a backdrop for the movie's own plot about "being yourself
If you liked Christopher Lloyd in this, you'll love him as The Hacker in the children's show Cyberchase. This man's performance has made me a life long viewer of the show because I'm too old for the educational math content by this point. He really just hams up this children's show villain to the nth degree and it's gold. Edit oh and Gilbert Gottfried is also in the main cast as a bird thing named Digit
@@chespin3910 it's okay. I was like 13 when I found out. That was almost 11 years ago. Watching the show knowing it's them gives me a greater appreciation for it
Saber, love the content you’re making. I’m not sure about others, but I enjoy painting my Warhammer stuff while listening to you in the background. Semi therapeutic in a sense. Keep up the good work!
You know, the part about Snowflake covering themselves in dirt to look different reminds me of that scene from Disney's Tarzan. The scene were Tarzan covers himself in mud to try and look more like a gorilla. Why does this scene work but Snowflake's did not? Maybe because it wasn't color that was the issue but just being different in general and the scene ends with Kala being one of the best Disney parents ever? Maybe because the film did a better job at handling it's message? They really should have planned out Snowflake's story better. I think I would rather have a totally ridiculous adventure story over something like this. Another great video.
And adding to that. As you say, context is everything. Here in Spain we don't have the same racial dynamics as the americans. So watching this, the whole black people/white people doesn't really come to mind. So to us is much closer to that Tarzan scene.
ya that’s his avatar he uses on twitch now, was looking for someone else to point it out, it made me laugh (not cause it’s a furry cause who cares but because of how random it was)
What really gets me is that they made this movie and an old saying is ringing I’m my head. “ Some things are better left unmade” and I think this movie fits the bill perfectly
When you first posted the teaser asking us to guess what the movie would be about, my first thought was it had some sort of environmental message like you see the ducks covered in oil from oil spills. NEVER would I have imagined they'd take THIS route.
I honestly thought the gorilla was named Snowflake because…well, right wing extremists DO love to throw that name around a lot. Never knew it was based on an actual albino gorilla named Snowflake.
Kung Pow is my most favorite live action comedy ever. Nothing has ever come close. Everyone I know who have seen it think it's cringe and I cannot understand why.
@@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger guess I'm dated too. 😅 I totally get that though. I grew up when movies like this and Austin Powers were popular. That type of humor influenced my own sense of humor. And it seems to me that comedy doesn't tend to age as well as other genres. Another of my favorite comedy's is Airplane! But my friends find it utterly boring.
The irony of Ariana being the world's most notorious black fisher having a line in a movie "she wants to be black" is not lost on me. Truly a treasure.
@@notatallfunctional That’s so dumb although I think the whole “cultural appropriation” thing is people being overly sensitive over someone’s choice of clothing.
It looks like one of those kids films where you can tell just by looking at the cover that not only is it bad, but uncomfortably inappropriate in its intentions!
The message of this film is quite similar to the message of The Birth of a Nation (1915) which is that blacks get more than they deserve, but whites (especially famous women) are the oppressed ones (and with Ariana Grande as the main character being a white gorilla girl and Jennette McCurdy being sidelined as the black gorilla girl that is also the one-dimensional older sister of a gorilla played by Nathan Kress (whom, like Miranda Cosgrove and Jerry Trainor, could’ve said no to the existence of a reboot of a Schneider’s Bakery show, so by 2020s standards, they would be disappointing by going back to being Nickelodeon stars.). The main reasons why both films get less hate than they deserve because of the fact that the only people that like these movies are Arianators who don’t want to hear bad things about Ayn Rand like her justifications of genocide and slavery towards people of colour being bs.
fun fact: I or saw the film in Italian, in our version it is hinted that the villain is an incredibly unfortunate man (the clumsiness in the Italian version is made to pass for bad luck), and he already knows the witch and seems to have many amulets sent to her (an example is the elephant's tusk) and wants snowflakes for her heart since it would give eternal fortune (it is perhaps also life but I don't remember) however I liked it as a child but now looking at the animations only one thing comes to mind: WHAT THE FUCKING PROBLEMS DID I HAVE AS A CHILD?!
That version sounds much better but at the same time extremely southern European so I can kind of see why they changed it but god knows why they leaned into the racial part
Same, I didn't see the issue as a kid. I remembered this movie just rn. I swear it was a fever dream. The white gorilla is a boy in the French dub too. The bad luck aspect of the movie was in it too I think.
I remember this thing from when I was 8 years old, it was the original version tho, 'cause like that's were I'm from. It was a repressed memory, I did not remember it being a thing until now. I didn't remember shit other than this one scene where Snowflake goes "What did I do?" And the black gorila goes "Exist".
TBH I think a story about an albino gorilla being rejected by its peers and with commentary against discrimination could actually work and make sense... It the writing staff was good.
I mean, it is realistic, some animals have known to hurt albino members of their species. It is *however* weird to make that a racism allegory. If anything wouldn't it make more sense to be like a disability allegory?? Considering that it's a genetic mutation and it can cause light sensitivity and blindness.
Maybe if the story was about that particular gorilla trying to find her origins, parents, or even another one like her, it would be a lil better? And as a side story, we could have that rich man trying to hunt her down cause she's an ancient gorilla or whatevs. Taking a similar approach like httyd 3 or rio. Yeah.. that would be cool, I'd watch that. Oh and bring some actual good animators for that movie, along with some decent voice actors.
I've watched this movie both in spanish and catalan and they weren't that bad, but, the english dub and version takes to a whole new f***ing level. I seriously laughed very hard with every quote you put in the video of the movie. Great video btw!
Fun fact that I might be remembering wrong: You won't just freeze in a freezer, BUT you will also run out of oxygen! I dont remember why or the specifics lol
They could of gone about it different, like what it's like to be an albino and the difficulties of what it's like to have albinism. From what I know, it's not easy for people (depending on some people as some have it pretty cool while other we're treated differently) and animals (as it effect their survival in the wilderness). A lil realistic approach.
I vividly remember watching this movie at the ripe age of 9 years old, eating cornflakes. I remember this because I found the cornflakes box to be more interesting than the movie
Snowflake was originally named Nfumu Ngui (literally "white gorilla" in Fang language, from Central Africa) when he lived in its natural habitat, and was renamed to Floquet de Neu, in Catalan, when he was brought to the Zoo of Barcelona, and later when he became famous, they began translating his name to other languages 🤓☝️
The voice actress, Ariana Grande, also was the voice of Diasporo in the Nickelodeon revival of Winx Club, who was wasted to being a jealous third wheel between Bloom and Sky in Season 5. And who knows why Diasporo was even in Season 6, Ariana Grande was too busy with her music career to even voice Diasporo in Season 6, so Cassandra Morris took over.
And they didn’t even give Jennette McCurdy a role in Winx Club because people think Ariana Grande and the flanderized, privileged bullies of characters she plays are better than everything to do with Jennette (except for the characters SHE played on Nick that just make her look way worse than she actually is. Especially Sam Puckett & Cat Valentine because they were exposed as Karens, especially in the finale of their own show).
@@kieranstark7213 I wish Diasporo from Winx Club has been done justice. In Season 1, it was established that Diasporo was Sky’s fiancée and Bloom accuses her for being part of the Trix, the main antagonists of the show, so Bloom prematurely attacked Diasporo and ruined the live show at Red Fountain, making Bloom feel ashamed of herself. In Season 3, Valtor took advantage of Diasporo’s desire to be with Sky by debugging him into following Diasporos orders, only to be defeated and then banished from Erakylon. Returning to Season 5, She was somehow appointed as liaison of Eraklyon, I don’t know what else happened to her. She returns again in Season 6, somehow invited to Daphne’s coronation party. If Diasporos only purpose to be in Season 5 was to have Ariana Grande voice her in a co-produced season, yet Grande did not return to voice Diasporo in Season 6, then Diasporo appearing in Season 6 would be absolutely pointless. Here’s a link to the video about it: ruclips.net/video/yf5rrEldjyg/видео.html
*List of Nickelodeon cliches* • Hetero love traingles (usually of either two incel men (re: Every Witch Way, except Daniel Miller was far more of one than Jax Novoa because at the end that’s whom Emma Alonso decided to go with after Daniel’s “Continuum Break” excuse. Granted, Emma is also a Mary Sue with anger issues of her own, but still.) • The mean girls and jealous main girls are responsible for it (re: The Other Kingdom) • Karma Houdinis (Schneider’s Bakery) • More unlikeable characters • Bad Animation (whether it be lifeless CGI or way too over-the-top cartoonishness for the kiddies) • Forgettable theme songs • Several shows most people won’t care about • Secretly bought by Disney, which has the same issues • High school stereotypes • Foot fetish scenes • Overuse of bathroom humour • Poor man’s versions of the movies they were based on (including DreamWorks except for PoM) • Overuse of canned laugh track • Uncreative names • Even when franchises start off good, they go sour fast • Movies that think they can pass as blockbusters (Nickelodeon Movies) • Nickelodeon Original Movies • Hit or miss original songs
I remember watching this movie a couple years ago as a kid, and for whatever reason, I loved it. Thanks for uncovering this weird and fascinating memory.
Its like the director saw happy feets animation and said, let's make the animals 3d but more cartoony than hyper- realism. Also this is the second time Keith david voiced a gorilla since the legends of tarzan.
I've only ever seen the other English dub (the one with the lesser-known actors), so seeing this dub is eye-opening. Quite frankly the other dub is somehow miles better, despite also being weird and a bit tone-deaf. What's even odder is that dub *also* changes several characters' genders for apparently no reason, so it has to have been a demand from somewhere when both teams did their dubs.
I remember this movie from when I was younger, I had the dvd and it was in the other dub so the red panada actually believed he was a black panther in a red panadas body (so the "black magic" was for both of them) so at 11:31 he is really talking about that, and he said nothing about lobsters in that other dub too... from memory it was ok in the other dub.
im hispanic, and damn this movie brings me nightmares IT WAS THE ONLY MOVIE WE HAD IN MY GRANDMAS HOUSE AND WHEN TV WAS BORING, I HAD NO OTHER OPTION THAN TO WATCH COPITO DE NIEVE OVER AND OVER LIKE SOME TORTURE MACHINE FROM SAW
Back in the day, I was a huge fan of National Geographic magazine. My family had a subscription. They really hyped the real-life Snowflake from shortly after his capture in 1966 (cover of the March 1967 issue and a big article: I would have been 5) until… I’m not sure, because I started getting skeptical about National Geographic maybe ten years later and wouldn’t always read it. I’d entirely forgotten about Snowflake until this video was announced: I hadn’t even heard that he’d died. Apparently the movie was mostly in Catalan originally and filmed in Barcelona where the real-life Snowflake lived (in the zoo of course). I can see that a sort of twisted local enthusiasm could result in such a movie, but making an English dub with product-placement jokes and a few big names was just a bad idea.
As someone who was forced to watch the original Spanish version for school, I can confirm that it is MUCH better than the English dub. Then again, maybe that’s because I only understood parts of it 😭
So far the original Spanish dub is less bad but still has the resemblance of predugice. The one thing I remember was the 2D animated opening credit which I guess if they had the time it could have worked. Correct me if I'm wrong, the villian was once a successful person who somehow cross with very bad luck and is surrounded by items and charms that suppose to help.
There is so much of this movie that is contextual of Barcelona. I’ll tell you. In Barcelona the were very proud of having the most unique gorila, and they tried to breed him many times, reproduce the gene. It didn’t worked, and well, on the 2010ths it’s memory was still very alive… I remember watching this film many times on TV3 when I was a child.
As a Spanish voice actor, let me tell you a thing or two: The Spanish dub has the voice actor of Darth Vader for Keith David's character. And the witch is the wife of Chris Hemsworth. Now I want to get Force choked while getting hit by Thor's hammer over and over again.
If Carly & Spencer Shay were in it, then I would just laugh. Although it's sad that Jennette McCurdy left acting (for several reasons that must have been truly for her)... ☹️
I know him as the Woodsman from Over the Garden Wall over everything else, and it's wild just seeing him in the credits of anything and going "Oh, there he is again!"
Snowflake the Gorilla is a movie loosely based on Snowflake the gorilla’s life. In actuality, Snowflake the gorilla was an albino gorilla with pinkish eyes, here he (or she in the English version) is a partly anthropomorphic albino gorilla with blue eyes.
I remember when Cartoon Network aired this movie in Latin America back in 2015. I know Spain doesn’t have enough experience when it comes to making animated films but I did notice several problems. One of them being Snowflake just discarding the potion which I felt it made his journey pointless (That’s a major narrative rule: The ending must be meaningful and it has to pay off)
@@rolboo6158What about Planet 51, Mort & Phil: Mission Implausible, or Wonder Park? They were animated by Ilion Animation Studios, then called Skydance Animation Madrid. Sure, these films may not be good, but at least they have decent animation.
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The fact that "She wants to be black you moron" is a real line said by a real human being is insanely funny to me.
well it came out of david spade so its quite normal in that aspect lmao
That way she can say the n word
It, sounds like kuzco wanting to race change someone.
"Don't shoot! That man isn't Black!"
I just fucking squealed at this 😭
The real snowflake actually lived a pretty good life. He was rescued as a baby and was extremely well cared for his whole life and lived comfortably in the zoo and grew a big family. He did develop fatal skin cancer and was eventually put down before he was in unbearable pain, but he still made it to his forties and did alright for himself. Rest in peace Snowflake, you are worth so much more than this movie
Gorillas can get skin cancer??? Huh, I learned something new today.
@@deen7530 Almost any animal can get cancer, cancer is just a cluster of cells whose growth got out of control.
It's pretty scary
@@issytheamateurnerd9877 This is the first time I've ever heard of an animal getting skin cancer. Is it common in gorillas, or was it because Snowflake didn't have any melanin for protection?
@@deen7530 Albinism has an increased risk of skin cancer because of the lack of melanin in hair and skin which normally provides protection from UV radiation.
@@deen7530 That's because Snowflake was albino and he had some mutation, but yes animals do get cancer. Also, he got a daughter called Virunga who recently died back in 2012 bbut who didn't inherit his albinism.
This looks like a movie I'd watch when I was a kid and then randomly remember it while eating cheerios 15 years later
That's actually what happened me, I remember watching this on repeat when I was about 6 but I couldn't tell you the plot to save my life or why I watched it so much
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@@gothcxnt please watch this ⬆️
I love how that other English dub actually had good voice-acting like with that one line (“YOU’LL NEVER BE ONE OF US”) and this one is just like “hhngh I don’t like you”
Saber finally accepts his true self at 3:44 🥺
I wheezed when I saw that 😂
Luckily I slowed it down and I made my own one and then I found you in the time he turned into a furry
It was so beautiful 😭
HIS FURSONA.
lol yeah it scared me for a sec XD
Zootopia tackled the issue of discrimination with animated animals, but they did a hell of a lot better than this. This is a fever dream.
It's tone def approach is the most jarring and cringe-inducing aspect.
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Yeah, better I suppose, but still...predators are built for predation and objectively physically more dangerous even though the animals are "civilized"...idk if it's a good thing comparing predatory animals with racial minorities...
They still didn’t do great, making the oppressed class actually physically dangerous to the oppressors
Considering they changed Snowflakes gender just so they could have Ariana Grande as the star, I'm willing to bet that most of the script was changed as well and that the original Spanish version is VASTLY different in tone.
Reminds me of when in an English dub of another Hispanic-languaged movie by Harvey Weinstein of all people/companies, they decided to cast Ariana as the main female character with no personality other than the young woman waiting to be rescued and make sure Jennette McCurdy stays unpopular (well, with “I’m Glad My Mom Died”, look who got the last laugh on haters!).
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@@kieranstark7213Luckily I got the copy of the film from Spain that also includes the original Argentine Spanish version. The movie is called Metegol, or Futbolín in Spain.
Ariana granda being in a movie called "Snowflake the White Gorrila" is the most fascinating thing I've heard this year....and theres been some pretty interesting things so far.
I don't understand why that is fascinating
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@@kaiserfoxi266 Ariana has been accused of cultural appropriation of african american culture a lot in the past (braided hair, darkening her skin, making songs with plenty of black rapper stereotypes ex ;7 rings)
I don't have much of an opinion on it myself, but I think the cultural appropriation controversies is why Saber calls it ironic
@Felix's Freckles dang braided hair qualifies as cultural appropriation? Anyway thanks for answering, I guess that probably is what it's about.
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I recently researched albino great apes for some reason (adhd rabbitholes don’t ask) and interestingly enough discrimination against albino mutants might actually be a thing in ape communities, at least there was one case documented where there was an albino baby chimp (I think, not 100% sure, might have been a gorilla) that, aside from their mother, other chimps reacted very strangely to. making warning sounds for danger when seeing them and it was eventually killed by other adults. Infanticide is unfortunately a not so uncommon occurrence though, so it’s hard to tell what the reason was. The surrounding situation was just bizarre. Anyways, the movie is obviously still ridiculous and none of that is in any way comparable to human racism, it just reminded me of that story lol
I read Sphinx cats also suffer racism from their "normal haired" peers so I can see it happens in apes, and now that we're upon the subject I seem to distincty remember albino children being mistreated in some african countries as well!
Damn, they had a real life issue to tackle and they blew it in every way conceivable!
"adhd rabbitholes don't ask"
god if that ain't a mood
This is like a year old, but I wanted to point out there is literal discrimination against albino people. In some countries in Africa they have been killed for their disability. I know two Nigerian refugees who have come to Canada to get support for their disability and leave behind the ableism they faced back home. It's not the same as racism for sure tho.
@@AnikMonette Yes, in many African countries, where Albinism are more common, Albino children are not only discriminated against, but killed. even having parts of their bodies used for ritualistic medicine. really twisted stuff that's depressing to look into, but it's sadly still a thing in our modern era. (also just realized the person above me commented the same thing. sorry lol)
I think the dubbing might have been done back while Ari was on Victorious or Sam & Cat. Back when she was a supporting character on a teen sitcom, and absolutely NOBODY thought she would ever be as big as she is now. If she was offered this role now she would almost definitely say no, but back then she was a much more minor celeb which makes it less weird. (Still super ironic given the subject lol)
Don't know why David Spade said yes, though. He was in the funniest Disney movie ever! He should've known this would've been nothing like it!
Not to mention that she would've still been a minor at the time, so it was most likely her manager/handlers that convinced her to do it and she accepted believing in their judgement.
My best guess is because this is secretly a Nickelodeon/Dan Schneider movie, made to make Ariana Grande look better than Jennette McCurdy by putting them in the same movie with Ariana as the lead so that a year later, they would make Ariana the famous one and Jennette the most overhated Nickelodeon member since Alexa Nikolas (it’s all Jamie Lynn (and most other cast members and Dan himself)’s fault!)
With this context, it actually makes more sense.
David spade hasn’t been relevant for years though
@Darktion291 shhhhh go away bot
I feel so sorry for Saber for having to violate his eyes and ears with some of the worst atrocities cinema has created.
something to laugh at or YTPs
@Darktion291bot
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@@yeaman9844bot
ew a furry. makes sense the bots came here in full force. you deserve it
11:32 in the spanish version he actually wanted to be turn into a black panther, because thats what he feels he is in reality. They really changed everything
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@@scp-682-cu6 It's true
@@scp-682-cu6 also the villain apparently suffers bad luck on Donald Duck's level and wanted Snowflake's heart because apparently heart of white gorilla is a main ingredience to potion for eternal luck, not eternal life.
@@ivanacurna6577 that explains a lot...
@@ivanacurna6577 Makes the movie even more fucked up and inappropriate tbh, since "killing an albino and harvesting their body parts for good luck" is quite literally exactly what happens to human albino children in some parts of the world to this day... definitely not something to make light of in a kids' movie for sure
There was a kid's book I really liked when I was little called Black Sheep White Raven and it was about like how there's an outcast on two sides of a family, not just one, and when they meet up one day they try to paint themselves the right color until all of it sudden it rains and washes the stuff off. :p
So instead they decide to switch places. :? But as their both completely different species, with the black sheep trying to fit in with the family of ravens and the white raven mixed in with all the white sheep, the two families decided they hated this even more than they did with the outcasts so they end up actually missing them and wanting them back. :p
Consider the usual metaphor for a black sheep being different from everyone else in their family for any number of reasons and maybe being considered an outcast for it, and thanks to Disney movies like Beauty and the Beast or The Hunchback of Notre Dame (or even Mulan with how a woman can't join the army, or at least the Chinese one back in the day apparently), I didn't even think it might explicitly be about racism, I just thought it was a nice message that their unique and special in their own way or something. :p I mean, in a literal sense, the rarity of such a species including an albino gorilla right here seems a lot cooler than the average folk to me... :?
10:42 i love this trans representasion
"SHE WANTS TO BE BLACK, YOU MORON!" I will forever quote this scene
The follow up “it’s actually not uncommon in teenagers” is fucking amazing
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I can’t believe they did my boy so dirty, not only was Snowflake a father of many children and lived a happy life before dying due to his own skin pigmentation, but he was respected by everyone. But this movie straight up just turned a movie about him, into a tone deaf anti-racism story, while changing Snowflake’s gender and identity for the sake of marketability! For shame!
To be fair, it wasn't the movie per se as much as the english dub lmfao in the spanish dub he's a boy
Not the movie but the english dub
Especially since the issue wasn’t just ‘Snowflake needed confidence’. He contracted skin cancer because of his albinism. In captivity a western lowland can live into their fifties. Cancer took him when he was maybe 38. He needed to spend time in sunlight to thrive but it was also something that killed him. Confidence wasn’t going to help that.
If anything the movie could’ve been about how despite having this condition that eventually did take his life, he was able to find success and love. In spite of and because of this condition.
Other gorillas clearly didn’t care, as he had three wives and 22 kids (and currently 8 living great-grandkids), and he remains a legend and an icon among people because he’s the only known albino western lowland gorilla.
You thought we didn’t see it😂 3:44
Lol
Heck I think even Maya and the three did a great job talking about discrimination with Chimi and even gave a reason for people not wanting her around.
Jennette McCurdy is also in the English dub. You know, the one who was forced to do acting by her mother. She wrote a memoir about it called "I'm Glad My Mom Died".
I’ve seen that book in stores Lmao
I need to get that book when I have the chance.
I read it recently. It's insane the way her mom treated her.
Nathen kress is also in this movie
I love Jennette's book. Sadly my mother was a lot like hers, so I relate a *LOT* to what she went through. Good on her for bringing awareness to other victims of toxic parenting. ❤️🩹
my childhood was literally built off of these kind of movies, there was a movie rental place we went to all the time where there was a free section and it was just filled with awful movies like this
The home video near me also had some weird movies too lol
You deserve financial compensation
If you put this movie side-by-side with Zootopia, that would be a prime example of “There’s no such thing as a bad idea, just bad execution”
No, this was just a bad idea period. Okay an albino animal dealing with being outcast could have worked … but an albino gorilla, wanting to go see a *witch* so he/she can be turned black like the others … then he/she doesn’t use it right away? Why would you not use it right away???
@@LadyLeomon Incredibly late comment, but there's an interesting story someone made of their own original character with a plot premise that's extremely similar to this, being a pale albino cat is discriminated against by her clan of dark colored cats who worship corvids as they see her as a bad omen, and she tries to seek a way to be accepted by them. The character is a cat named Crowsong and there's a lot of animation and projects about the story on RUclips, it's worth checking out to see the idea done in a less disastrous way lol
@@shinyrayquazaaah what's it called? I'm a little bit interested
Hello there, in the french dub of the movie (wich I presume is closer to the original script) the bad guy is introduced to be extremely unlucky (like curse level of bad luck) and his "trophies" are actually lucky charms meant to stop his bad luck. In his introduction, some random guy delivers him a new object said to make bad luck go away (there's a actually fun scene when he get's his item, where he's like "hey it worked, that thing on the roof didn't fall and crush you" to the deliveryman and I don't remember what but something bad happens, showing that he still has no luck).
In this version he doesn't want snowflake for immortality but because it's supposed to be the strongest lucky charm in existence, also when he get to the witch she's like "no don't do that I already told you there's nothing that can be done against your curse".
I have no idea why the english dub changed it the way they did but there you go
"Killing albinos and harvesting their organs as a luck charm" is unfortunately a very real thing that is done to human albino children in certain parts of the world to this day, so kind of really fucked up to include as a throwaway conflict in the haha funny gorilla movie. it might have been seen as passable for spanish and french audiences, but america is a bit more socially conscious, so i wager the higher ups decided it'd be better to play it safe and remove any of the more uncomfortable, dark, real-world connections to ongoing mass murder of disabled children.
@@hellothere9520 that might be the reason... people in america are always scared of mistaking fiction and reality, personally I don't blame the movie for choosing this path. I would say it makes the movie better by actually criticizing and making people aware of real world practices. Sad that it was in a bad movie
@@hellothere9520 *a bit more easily offended.
@@lehashura490 Just including a serious topic in the plot doesn't mean the movie is "criticizing" said practices, imo. Unless a movie fully commits to the commentary and says something worthwhile about the issue rather than just using it as a backdrop for the movie's own plot about "being yourself
@@Game_Hero no
13:30 THE TOES 😦
I love how real Snowflake looks so smug in both photos.
Reading Snowflake and white at the same sentence killed me
Noo why do you have the ugly night light for pfp 😭
@@pleasantdashi7112 Why do you care?
I'm like 🤨🧐
@@DDD0gg1pup im curious why people like those sausage heads
@A Zee is this a conspiracy or fact? Because Sabre literally said he died of skin cancer and had kids and grandkids
If you liked Christopher Lloyd in this, you'll love him as The Hacker in the children's show Cyberchase. This man's performance has made me a life long viewer of the show because I'm too old for the educational math content by this point. He really just hams up this children's show villain to the nth degree and it's gold.
Edit oh and Gilbert Gottfried is also in the main cast as a bird thing named Digit
I remember that series
The Hacker was probably the best villain in the show
YES OH MY GOD they fucking KILL it in Cyberchase
how in the absolute hell did i not know this, despite having watched Cyerchase all the time as a kid???
@@chespin3910 it's okay. I was like 13 when I found out. That was almost 11 years ago. Watching the show knowing it's them gives me a greater appreciation for it
I fucking loved Cyberchase. I don't like the art change tho.
Saber, love the content you’re making. I’m not sure about others, but I enjoy painting my Warhammer stuff while listening to you in the background. Semi therapeutic in a sense.
Keep up the good work!
0:29 he looks so unique and adorable
Seeing Saber talk about a random movie i've never heard of takes me back
both of these replies are bots do not trust them
@@aljaberhk no shit Sherlock
@@Foxett25 no surprise furry is toxic
@@Folfah Mabye exept im not a furry? Buy glasses. My profile picture is a wild cat.
You know, the part about Snowflake covering themselves in dirt to look different reminds me of that scene from Disney's Tarzan. The scene were Tarzan covers himself in mud to try and look more like a gorilla. Why does this scene work but Snowflake's did not? Maybe because it wasn't color that was the issue but just being different in general and the scene ends with Kala being one of the best Disney parents ever? Maybe because the film did a better job at handling it's message?
They really should have planned out Snowflake's story better. I think I would rather have a totally ridiculous adventure story over something like this.
Another great video.
You've pretty much nailed it. Context is everything.
And adding to that. As you say, context is everything. Here in Spain we don't have the same racial dynamics as the americans. So watching this, the whole black people/white people doesn't really come to mind. So to us is much closer to that Tarzan scene.
IS NO ONE QUESTIONING THE SINGLE FRAMA HE TURNED INTO A FLIPPIN CHEETAH FURRY 😂
I noticed it too
ya that’s his avatar he uses on twitch now, was looking for someone else to point it out, it made me laugh (not cause it’s a furry cause who cares but because of how random it was)
I was surprised too xD
THIS
BRO WTF HOW IS THIS THE ONLY COMMENT IVE FOUND ABOUT THAT
What really gets me is that they made this movie and an old saying is ringing I’m my head. “ Some things are better left unmade” and I think this movie fits the bill perfectly
Well I must say, the Sabertooth tiger you threw in at the end of your ad is cute. Even though it was flashed super quick at 3:44 ish.
When you first posted the teaser asking us to guess what the movie would be about, my first thought was it had some sort of environmental message like you see the ducks covered in oil from oil spills. NEVER would I have imagined they'd take THIS route.
This entire movie is just a mess. That's all I can say about it. A complete mess.
I honestly thought the gorilla was named Snowflake because…well, right wing extremists DO love to throw that name around a lot.
Never knew it was based on an actual albino gorilla named Snowflake.
@@MetalSonicReject Well, at least you know that Snowflake exists now.
He's pretty cool.
This was my first thought too. And like, naming the main character Snowflake was ironic because “global warming” or something
Kung Pow: Enter the Fist is the greatest comedy ever made. So quotable with non-stop nonsense. The dialog is amazing.
Kung Pow is my most favorite live action comedy ever. Nothing has ever come close. Everyone I know who have seen it think it's cringe and I cannot understand why.
@@Chihirolee3 _"Gopherchucks!"_
(Its very dated in its comedy. Master of Disguise falls into the same comedy stylings)
THAT'S A LOT OF NUTS!
*My nipples look like milk duds!*
@@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger guess I'm dated too. 😅
I totally get that though. I grew up when movies like this and Austin Powers were popular. That type of humor influenced my own sense of humor. And it seems to me that comedy doesn't tend to age as well as other genres. Another of my favorite comedy's is Airplane! But my friends find it utterly boring.
3:43 saberspark suddenly turning into a furry caught me off guard lmao
1:01
Now that right there is the funniest thing I’ve heard all day.
The irony of Ariana being the world's most notorious black fisher having a line in a movie "she wants to be black" is not lost on me. Truly a treasure.
What's a Black fisher?
@@PeterGriffin11 Someone that kills salmon apparently.
"black fisher" c'mon americans, are we really there? How dare an human use human culture...
@@Game_HeroIt’s not really a cultural appropriation thing. People just don’t like that she tans a lot, and say she’s trying to look black.
@@notatallfunctional That’s so dumb although I think the whole “cultural appropriation” thing is people being overly sensitive over someone’s choice of clothing.
8:30 Jesus Christ Jennette just could never catch a break...
The funny thing is once I clicked your timestamp, I got a NICKELODEON ad! 🤣🤣🤣
Okay, but that one line by David Spade about teenagers wanting to be black is actually hilarious.
It looks like one of those kids films where you can tell just by looking at the cover that not only is it bad, but uncomfortably inappropriate in its intentions!
It also looks like one of those kids films you'd find in a Walmart bargain bin for only one dollar.
@@michaelstrong5383 That too!
@@michaelstrong5383 I think I HAVE seen it in those bins so you're totally correct! XD
The message of this film is quite similar to the message of The Birth of a Nation (1915) which is that blacks get more than they deserve, but whites (especially famous women) are the oppressed ones (and with Ariana Grande as the main character being a white gorilla girl and Jennette McCurdy being sidelined as the black gorilla girl that is also the one-dimensional older sister of a gorilla played by Nathan Kress (whom, like Miranda Cosgrove and Jerry Trainor, could’ve said no to the existence of a reboot of a Schneider’s Bakery show, so by 2020s standards, they would be disappointing by going back to being Nickelodeon stars.). The main reasons why both films get less hate than they deserve because of the fact that the only people that like these movies are Arianators who don’t want to hear bad things about Ayn Rand like her justifications of genocide and slavery towards people of colour being bs.
@@kieranstark7213 This movie also gets less hate than it deserves because nobody wants to watch this mess.
fun fact:
I or saw the film in Italian,
in our version it is hinted that the villain is an incredibly unfortunate man (the clumsiness in the Italian version is made to pass for bad luck), and he already knows the witch and seems to have many amulets sent to her (an example is the elephant's tusk) and wants snowflakes for her heart since it would give eternal fortune (it is perhaps also life but I don't remember)
however I liked it as a child but now looking at the animations only one thing comes to mind:
WHAT THE FUCKING PROBLEMS DID I HAVE AS A CHILD?!
That version sounds much better but at the same time extremely southern European so I can kind of see why they changed it but god knows why they leaned into the racial part
Nah, your version's the right one. For some reason the english dub changes a lot of things in the script and makes it worse.
@@alejoordizflores4537 oh cool.
Same, I didn't see the issue as a kid. I remembered this movie just rn. I swear it was a fever dream. The white gorilla is a boy in the French dub too. The bad luck aspect of the movie was in it too I think.
mio dio la traduzione in inglese è tremenda,non la riesco ad ascoltare
I thought that Snowflake was going to be voiced by Carolyn Lawrence, Nancy Cartwright or the Canadian Tara Strong. But this part at 6:00 rocks for me
"Kill me or release me Snowflake , but do not waste my time with talk." Keith David.
It’s so strange that arianna grande agreed to a movie like this
The bills don't pay themselves
And the movie is old, she wasn't as big as she is now
It's has to be for tax reasons...
There are way to many bad animated movies with big name celebrity VAs
@@rompevuevitos222she was also likely a teen at that time.
I remember this thing from when I was 8 years old, it was the original version tho, 'cause like that's were I'm from. It was a repressed memory, I did not remember it being a thing until now.
I didn't remember shit other than this one scene where Snowflake goes "What did I do?" And the black gorila goes "Exist".
TBH I think a story about an albino gorilla being rejected by its peers and with commentary against discrimination could actually work and make sense... It the writing staff was good.
I mean, it is realistic, some animals have known to hurt albino members of their species. It is *however* weird to make that a racism allegory. If anything wouldn't it make more sense to be like a disability allegory?? Considering that it's a genetic mutation and it can cause light sensitivity and blindness.
@ferret4111 I've never heard of that
I'm gonna be honest. A van driven by a a man being dubbed by Christopher Lloyd is exactly the kind of trap van I'd eagerly climb into.
Maybe if the story was about that particular gorilla trying to find her origins, parents, or even another one like her, it would be a lil better? And as a side story, we could have that rich man trying to hunt her down cause she's an ancient gorilla or whatevs. Taking a similar approach like httyd 3 or rio. Yeah.. that would be cool, I'd watch that. Oh and bring some actual good animators for that movie, along with some decent voice actors.
All photos of snowflake makes him look so mischievous and sassy! 😂 I love it!!
I've watched this movie both in spanish and catalan and they weren't that bad, but, the english dub and version takes to a whole new f***ing level.
I seriously laughed very hard with every quote you put in the video of the movie. Great video btw!
I loved, and missed the What the HELL series and Saber getting toured watching bad movies
I remember seeing this movie in the $1 pharmacy bin
It’s not even worth 25 cents.
Fun fact that I might be remembering wrong: You won't just freeze in a freezer, BUT you will also run out of oxygen! I dont remember why or the specifics lol
They could of gone about it different, like what it's like to be an albino and the difficulties of what it's like to have albinism. From what I know, it's not easy for people (depending on some people as some have it pretty cool while other we're treated differently) and animals (as it effect their survival in the wilderness). A lil realistic approach.
I vividly remember watching this movie at the ripe age of 9 years old, eating cornflakes. I remember this because I found the cornflakes box to be more interesting than the movie
Snowflake was originally named Nfumu Ngui (literally "white gorilla" in Fang language, from Central Africa) when he lived in its natural habitat, and was renamed to Floquet de Neu, in Catalan, when he was brought to the Zoo of Barcelona, and later when he became famous, they began translating his name to other languages 🤓☝️
I can't help but constantly hear Kuzco, since David Spade portrayed him, and their voices here are quite similarly done.
I was wondering why he sounded familiar!
Gonna be honest, low-key want to own this movie now, mostly for to see the RedPanda voiced by David Spade.
What's funny in polish dub he was cursed with bad luck and white gorilas organ was suposed to brake curse or smt. From what i remember.
Fun fact: The actress who plays the witch is Chris Hemsworth's wife
That's cool.
3:44 Anyone else confused as to why Saberspark turns into a furry more than he already is?
Broooo fr I was scrolling the comments seein if anyone else saw that
I didn’t notice bc I had the video going while drawing a furry dragon-
I just saw it too
Had to put it in ,0.25x speed
I guess no one saw it because most people skip the sponsorships
Lol
The voice actress, Ariana Grande, also was the voice of Diasporo in the Nickelodeon revival of Winx Club, who was wasted to being a jealous third wheel between Bloom and Sky in Season 5. And who knows why Diasporo was even in Season 6, Ariana Grande was too busy with her music career to even voice Diasporo in Season 6, so Cassandra Morris took over.
And they didn’t even give Jennette McCurdy a role in Winx Club because people think Ariana Grande and the flanderized, privileged bullies of characters she plays are better than everything to do with Jennette (except for the characters SHE played on Nick that just make her look way worse than she actually is. Especially Sam Puckett & Cat Valentine because they were exposed as Karens, especially in the finale of their own show).
@@kieranstark7213 I wish Diasporo from Winx Club has been done justice. In Season 1, it was established that Diasporo was Sky’s fiancée and Bloom accuses her for being part of the Trix, the main antagonists of the show, so Bloom prematurely attacked Diasporo and ruined the live show at Red Fountain, making Bloom feel ashamed of herself. In Season 3, Valtor took advantage of Diasporo’s desire to be with Sky by debugging him into following Diasporos orders, only to be defeated and then banished from Erakylon. Returning to Season 5, She was somehow appointed as liaison of Eraklyon, I don’t know what else happened to her. She returns again in Season 6, somehow invited to Daphne’s coronation party. If Diasporos only purpose to be in Season 5 was to have Ariana Grande voice her in a co-produced season, yet Grande did not return to voice Diasporo in Season 6, then Diasporo appearing in Season 6 would be absolutely pointless. Here’s a link to the video about it: ruclips.net/video/yf5rrEldjyg/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/yf5rrEldjyg/видео.html
*List of Nickelodeon cliches*
• Hetero love traingles (usually of either two incel men (re: Every Witch Way, except Daniel Miller was far more of one than Jax Novoa because at the end that’s whom Emma Alonso decided to go with after Daniel’s “Continuum Break” excuse. Granted, Emma is also a Mary Sue with anger issues of her own, but still.)
• The mean girls and jealous main girls are responsible for it (re: The Other Kingdom)
• Karma Houdinis (Schneider’s Bakery)
• More unlikeable characters
• Bad Animation (whether it be lifeless CGI or way too over-the-top cartoonishness for the kiddies)
• Forgettable theme songs
• Several shows most people won’t care about
• Secretly bought by Disney, which has the same issues
• High school stereotypes
• Foot fetish scenes
• Overuse of bathroom humour
• Poor man’s versions of the movies they were based on (including DreamWorks except for PoM)
• Overuse of canned laugh track
• Uncreative names
• Even when franchises start off good, they go sour fast
• Movies that think they can pass as blockbusters (Nickelodeon Movies)
• Nickelodeon Original Movies
• Hit or miss original songs
I remember watching this movie a couple years ago as a kid, and for whatever reason, I loved it. Thanks for uncovering this weird and fascinating memory.
8:00 Is it me or do ALL these bad animated films use that exact same font with the blocky 3 dimensional letters?
No mostly all jungle or animal movies. That are animated for kids like I’m pretty sure they use the exact same font in Madagascar
thanks Saber for unlocking one of my forgoten childhood memories again
I'm also happy I saw the czech dub insted as a kid I guess
Its like the director saw happy feets animation and said, let's make the animals 3d but more cartoony than hyper- realism.
Also this is the second time Keith david voiced a gorilla since the legends of tarzan.
I've only ever seen the other English dub (the one with the lesser-known actors), so seeing this dub is eye-opening. Quite frankly the other dub is somehow miles better, despite also being weird and a bit tone-deaf. What's even odder is that dub *also* changes several characters' genders for apparently no reason, so it has to have been a demand from somewhere when both teams did their dubs.
Bro I watched this movie years ago and only have a slight memory of it, and it sometimes resurfaces in my brain.
I remember this movie from when I was younger, I had the dvd and it was in the other dub so the red panada actually believed he was a black panther in a red panadas body (so the "black magic" was for both of them) so at 11:31 he is really talking about that, and he said nothing about lobsters in that other dub too... from memory it was ok in the other dub.
Saber, you can't escape. Stop blinking in and out of your fursona, just accept your fate.
im hispanic, and damn this movie brings me nightmares IT WAS THE ONLY MOVIE WE HAD IN MY GRANDMAS HOUSE AND WHEN TV WAS BORING, I HAD NO OTHER OPTION THAN TO WATCH COPITO DE NIEVE OVER AND OVER LIKE SOME TORTURE MACHINE FROM SAW
Back in the day, I was a huge fan of National Geographic magazine. My family had a subscription. They really hyped the real-life Snowflake from shortly after his capture in 1966 (cover of the March 1967 issue and a big article: I would have been 5) until… I’m not sure, because I started getting skeptical about National Geographic maybe ten years later and wouldn’t always read it. I’d entirely forgotten about Snowflake until this video was announced: I hadn’t even heard that he’d died.
Apparently the movie was mostly in Catalan originally and filmed in Barcelona where the real-life Snowflake lived (in the zoo of course). I can see that a sort of twisted local enthusiasm could result in such a movie, but making an English dub with product-placement jokes and a few big names was just a bad idea.
10:03 PETE'S FREAKING DRAGON WHY!!! The background looks nearly identical to the musical 70s counterpart.
3:43 so is nobody gonna talk about how he transformed for a second 💀?
12:08 I don’t know why but the Tobey Maguire face on the boy made me laugh
You never fail to find the weirdest kids' stuff
Wow, the moment Saber asked about the villains motive I was like: wants to eat him for immortality and it's actually true?! That's just Gargamel
Saber cat for one frame at 3:44. That is an adorable little dude
As someone who was forced to watch the original Spanish version for school, I can confirm that it is MUCH better than the English dub. Then again, maybe that’s because I only understood parts of it 😭
So far the original Spanish dub is less bad but still has the resemblance of predugice. The one thing I remember was the 2D animated opening credit which I guess if they had the time it could have worked. Correct me if I'm wrong, the villian was once a successful person who somehow cross with very bad luck and is surrounded by items and charms that suppose to help.
"Copit de niev"
-Saberspark 2023
Thank you for making me chuckle, love you man
Just seeing the black paint next to Snowflake was all I needed to know what I was in for 🤦♀️
5:40 bro hoodwinked had a bigger budget than this movie
I guess after Yzma turned Kuzco into a llama he then turned into a red panda and befriended an albino gorilla.
There is so much of this movie that is contextual of Barcelona. I’ll tell you. In Barcelona the were very proud of having the most unique gorila, and they tried to breed him many times, reproduce the gene. It didn’t worked, and well, on the 2010ths it’s memory was still very alive… I remember watching this film many times on TV3 when I was a child.
The character designs are nightmare fuel and the writing actually made me think that I died and went to hell
3:42 Sabers fursona made a quick apperance. :3
" I jumped out of a freaking ✨plane✨in my✨⭐✨💅vessis 💅✨⭐✨"
4:54 whats wrong with Lionsgate?
As a Spanish voice actor, let me tell you a thing or two:
The Spanish dub has the voice actor of Darth Vader for Keith David's character.
And the witch is the wife of Chris Hemsworth.
Now I want to get Force choked while getting hit by Thor's hammer over and over again.
This feels like "Ghost Stories" with it's writing and dialogue. Might just watch this to get a good laugh.
I can’t believe they managed to drag both Sam Puckett and Freddie Benson into this film.
If Carly & Spencer Shay were in it, then I would just laugh. Although it's sad that Jennette McCurdy left acting (for several reasons that must have been truly for her)... ☹️
@@cameronbosch1213 we already know why shush
@@nickelbrickell You don't have to be so rude. Shush. 🤫
I completly forgot about this movie! This movie was my childhood
"So I think is 'copo de nieve' in Spanish "
Glad those babel classes are working saber.
Christopher Lloyd is a cool actor and all but I think he’ll say yes to any role cause there have been things I would not have expected to see him in
I know him as the Woodsman from Over the Garden Wall over everything else, and it's wild just seeing him in the credits of anything and going "Oh, there he is again!"
I totally forgot he was the villain in 'Food Fight'
Snowflake the Gorilla is a movie loosely based on Snowflake the gorilla’s life.
In actuality, Snowflake the gorilla was an albino gorilla with pinkish eyes, here he (or she in the English version) is a partly anthropomorphic albino gorilla with blue eyes.
I remember when Cartoon Network aired this movie in Latin America back in 2015. I know Spain doesn’t have enough experience when it comes to making animated films but I did notice several problems. One of them being Snowflake just discarding the potion which I felt it made his journey pointless (That’s a major narrative rule: The ending must be meaningful and it has to pay off)
As a Spaniard
Yeah, Spain in sucks in animation, we haven't even gotten better ;-;
@@rolboo6158 But what about Klaus? It was a big step up for you.
@@mintstarmari Ah yeah that one was pretty good, but it rlly isn't the norm
@@rolboo6158What about Planet 51, Mort & Phil: Mission Implausible, or Wonder Park? They were animated by Ilion Animation Studios, then called Skydance Animation Madrid. Sure, these films may not be good, but at least they have decent animation.
@@robinsordahl8947 It's not rlly about bad animation, Spain has the talent, the country just sucks financially, it's about the quality
6:41 IS THAT HUSK???
Same voice actor 🙂