Steve Reviews: The Ringing Bell (Chirin's Bell)
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- Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2024
- This time Steve Reviews The Ringing Bell, a film that has been highly requested for some time now. It follows the tragic tale of a little lamb named Chirin, and despite being targeted towards kids, has a very dark story line, with some intense scenes of violence.
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Ok I'm seeing a lot of comments theorising what the film's moral could be and whether it even intended to have one. After seeing a couple of comments below and doing some research online, it appears that in the original book Chirin ends up ambushing the wolf, and admits that he had always intended to kill him someday in order to seek revenge. But after killing the wolf, Chirin realises that getting his revenge did not bring him happiness, and admits that he actually loved the wolf as a teacher and a father figure.
THIS would actually fit the moral that it is wrong to become consumed with revenge, but I guess the film thought that would have been too dark for Chirin's character, and so made out that he only killed the wolf to protect the other sheep. Which unfortunately ends up clouding the message of the story. So yeah, mystery solved team!
The beginning of the story explains how when someone or something is first born, they are still developing, I think the way the sounds become more synced and less playful as the film progresses, indicates that development to adulthood. Where once accepted and loved by all as a kid, is now cause for suspicion and fear by all as an adult.
Thanks for the review man, have yo ever heard about Watership Down: The Animated series? I woul'd like to see yours review on this. Many thanks!
Hey, could you maybe review the movie Jin-roh?
It is an animated japanese movie from 1999 that could really fit in one of your videos.
It is one of my favourite movies of all time and i got it on blue-ray.
I dont want to spoil anything so I will leave my commend like this ._.
Steve Reviews I remember a story like this, but it was not about a lamb... Hmm...
Watch a movie called The Last Unicorn and it's an animated movie, cause I use to watch it on DVD when I was little.
I think the message is “If you lose sight of your mission, you’ll become the very thing you tried to stop.”
Aka the anakin skywalker path
Nicr
SecretBlue02 coincidence seeing your comment I think not
I think it is a much more bleak and simple "Life isn't fair". No matter how you choose to live your life and what actions you take, eventually you will grow to see you will either be the victim or the villain to somebody around you. If Chirin had stayed in the meadow, eventually he would have been killed by the wolf, making him an innocent victim. By living his life in anger and killing the guard dogs and the wolf he had become the villain in the eyes of his old peers, seeing that even though he tried to protect them in doing so he had become a murderer and therefore no better than the wolf. Chirin becomes an outcast, even though he was expecting to be welcomed back a hero.
@Michelle Hughes
Good Point.
Shirin's adult design where he's tall and has crazy horns isn't so he would look like a sheep. It was a design choice to show that he's bascially become a monster which is why his anatomy is not of any real life animal.
Exactly it shows the fact that he’s changed so much he is no longer that innocent little sheep he once was. Innocence gone and he has become a different character entirely
Yes he's become the very thing he wanted to kill.
I mean, that makes sense to me.
It's pretty much symbolism in that sense.
Is that why his horns are pointed forward? Yeah, he looks more like a demon than an animal with horns. Which is ironic because animals that have horns are prey animals, yet horns are what a demon is usually given.
@@Nameless82284 in the west demons usually have horns because of medieval/early modern depictions of the devil as resembling Pan or Baphomet, basically a mix of a goat and a man (sometimes with female parts as well actually) and possibly drawing from various pagan cultures that had existed in the lands conquered by Christians during the spread of late western civilization.
I think the morale was: you can become strong but don't let yourself be consumed by it. Chirin spent almost his whole life becoming strong, he was basically obsessed with it, so much so, that he almost murdered an entire flock, only stopping when he remembered his mother.
With almost everything, if you let yourself be consumed by something it'll eventually twist and become corrupted, no matter how good of intentions you have. A lesson about not becoming obsessed with something maybe?
I’m almost certain that this movie is actually a metaphor for Japan and imperialism. I left a longer comment on this on this video, but basically Chirin represents Japan, his mother is China, the wolf is the West/imperialism, and the other sheep are the Asian countries Japan occupied and devastated during its imperialist period. It helps better explain why the plot plays out the way it does, though the climax of the film would be even darker if it stayed closer to the history it was inspired by.
Every anime in a nutshell.
That's a pretty lofty message for kids, especially since they usually forget about and move on from things within a day. I honestly think this movie is better for teens and adults. Kids generally don't have nearly the amount of maturity to understand themes like these
You die as a hero or live long enough to become the villain.
This movie in a nutshell
@@LT17402 true but the message was about becoming obsessed with something thats bad and remembering what exactly happened to somone you personally know and that your gonna do it to some other peoples or somone else and realizing you cant do it because its horrible
Woe wasn't training Chirin to be a wolf, he was ultimately training him to be a killer. Ironically, what the sheep asked for. Woe lives alone in the mountains with literally nothing. No pack, no mates, no pups. He's actually a tortured soul. Although not originally intended, he ultimately ends up training Chirin to murder him as he can't deal with that kind of life anymore as he gets older. The wolf even pushes Chirin over the edge at the end, knowing his actions would have a reaction. He doesn't care anymore, he just wants out.
Chirin gets what he wants in the end. However, he ultimately replaces his lost father-figure. In the end, I think a part of him realizes what had happened and what he became as he stays far away from anything and everything
putting it that way yeah, it almost becomes a story of generational trauma
I do feel like the wolf in some ways did use Chirin. In the end he craft Chirin to become a powerful and destructive creature to kill. He was proud of how Chirin had turned out like him, and it was his desire to be killed by someone stronger
He knew chirin would eventually kill him and it was his belief that the strongest survive. He took Chirin because he knew Chirin would probably flip or be fine tuned to his new ways.
The wolf was proud and I think he stood there as Chirin killed him. He left Chirin with his dark philosophy and left him empty and alone rejected and Chirin became what he wanted to kill.
Yeah, the movie doesn't address it (maybe the book did), but a lone wolf is a sad and tragic figure (contrary to how society often tends to paint the archetype in fiction). Wolves are social creatures (just like sheep), and without a pack Woe was essentially the wildlife equivalent to a criminal or a vagrant...Hell, his name is "Woe"; literally a synonym for "grief", and in the end Chirin knows exactly what motivated his mother's killer to kill.
It's official if you're a mom in an animated movie that follows your child you're going to die in some brutal fashion you can't avoid it
Well that sucks
only thing the mom sheep lacked was the "anime mom hairstyle of death"
Except Barefoot Gen.
In Tangled it was only the false mom who died. The real mom got to reunite with her daughter.
Not necessary. It depends if this comedy, drama or tragedy.
I think the reason that his horns are frontward facing is a creative choice, giving Chirin a more demonic look to show his change from the innocent lamb, to the now wolf-like ram. I always liked the design, mostly because I think it's pretty badass :3
Pretty sure it's an intentional choice by the designers. Chirin didn't lead the life of a sheep, he led the life of a wolf, and his life shaped his form into one fit for predation. The horns are what really gives it away. The normal horns of a ram are curled and meant more for fighting other males over females. Chirin's horns are sharp as daggers and face forward. They're weapons used for stabbing and eviscerating prey, not self-defense or mating rituals. Chirin will just plain shank you.
Astute Anansi It was the same thing with Yanase’s illustrations. In my opinion, it makes him look like armored version of Starkiller or even Darth Vader himself.
*It was time for Thomas to leave.*
*He had seen everything.*
Thomas had never seen such bullshit before.
*Thomas couldn’t do it anymore.*
*_The deed was done._*
*_Thomas questions reality_*
*It was time for Thomas the Thermonuclear Bomb to leave.*
*He had destroyed everything.*
Not gonna lie, grown up Chirin looks like a really cool Pokémon. Woe too, why not.
Funny you say that, because a few years ago I actually saw a Ringing Bell/Pokémon fanart that had a regular Absol and a tiny cute one (with bells around their necks), with writing saying "The world I live in is a Hell". Popped back into my head just now and thought I'd tell ya about it
It could be a Dark type version of Dubwool.
I've named my Scolipede "Chirin" in Pokemon Go.
@@sportsguy1989 You know what? You're actually right. He DOES kinda look like Scolipede.
Lol
they reject him because he became something everyone fears. The moral of this story is, don't hold resentment or rage inside because you will become a monster
Yes, it is so obvious, this review was so frustating.
“You have allowed this dark wolf to twist your mind until now, you have become the very thing you swore to destroy.”
I want to like this, but it has the perfect number of likes...!
Yup
But he wasn't resentful for most of the movie
Maybe the moral is, "Either die a hero. Or live long enough's to see yourself become the villian." Idk
I'd say the moral is "learn the consequences of power" Chirin start powerless to protect his mother, but he has the power to kill the snake while the consequence is destroying the eggs. By the end, he refuse to kill the sheeps, but the consequence is to loose his friend AND his kind. One to survive need to kill (in nature) but need to be prepared to face loss and death; kindness being a privilege of the powerfull.
Bruh...Chirin Is SPAWN!!
:O
“The quest for revenge will leave you cold in your grave.”
im just confused how theres no rule 34 of the ringing bell, but after this post, someone will stop sparing this anime & do the deed, and it aint gona be me
But it’s like everything he did was pretty valid I’m confuuuuusedddd
Well actually he tried to kill a herd of sheep so like 😐
You killed my mother! Teach me your ways!
I mean he was strong enough to kill his mother... he must be really strong!
Stewie
I think the idea was to have the wolf train him enough to kill the wolf (notice the wolf is not surprised) but grew attached.
years later chirin kill the wolfs mother
aguiaia1 I wouldn’t surprised if he killed his own mother.
As one who’s raised both sheep and goats, I can with 100% confidence... sheep ARE jerks!! Goats are surprisingly smart and very loyal to their family units within a herd. I’ve had nanny’s sleep surrounded by not on their kids, but their grown kids and THEIR kids (moms, daughters and grandkids, all in one sleeping area).
From what I've heard, sheep are also massively STUPID.
His horns grow forwards because he goes from being prey to being a predator
Taking artistic license with biology, then. Where the themes take priority over realism.
The opressed turning into an opressor?
From defense to offense
oh uhh you've never seen the terror skyrim horses give, right?
Julian Baxter i was thinking the same, perhaps anthelop horn would have been better
I think the horns were to symbolize that he had become a demon. A monster considering no animal can have horns like that
Edit: this is probably the most likes I've ever gotten! And just to be clear I wrote this while I was half asleep. I wrote this and a video I was using for sleep aid so sorry about the comment sounding stupid
Agreed
Dem facts tho
Actually deer get antlers like that! Before they develop tines some of them have the frontward curved antlers.... but I still agree that his horns were meant to look threatening and frightening. Kind of like sharp "teeth" for a sheep.
@@bethanytaylor554 that's actually kinda cool
Bethany Taylor
While ones so absurdly perfect would be one in a billion, forward leaning, relatively straight horned varieties do occur.
"I'm not sure what it's supposed to teach."
I mean, it's clear as daylight: don't become what you hate the most on the journey to defeat it.
His punishment for "falling to the dark side" is that he's now an outcast, forever doomed to be alone.
Its like the short film “alley cats”
The bad guy kills a parental figure, the main character gets angry and becomes more powerful to defeat it, when he does he realises he becomes what he has feared, then runs away
“You know nothing of the power of the dark side”
Exactly. I agree
Bruce Wayne is having a crisis now.
Chirin Skywalker
Wolf: “good night chirin, sleep well, I’ll likely kill you in the morning”.
Adult chirin narration: for 3 years he’d say that.
Lol
I think the idea was this: he *wanted* to be strong so he could kill the wolf. But the wolf trained him to be a killer and a fighter. He eventually straight up forgot about his revenge. Now when he needed to prove his worth, he couldn’t do it. Sorta like with the Force Unleashed where he was trained in the dark arts and to be a killer, but some memories come up and he realized he became the thing he swore to destroy. Now he’s in this middle ground, he’s not good, but he’s not bad either. He just is a lost soul. That’s my take on it anyway
i think you mean revenge of the sith
Honestly I felt like the wolf SET him up. He knew Chirin wanted him DEAD, the wolf knew survival of the fittest and soon he too would be dead. He was proud that he trained someone to kill him and used Chirin as a means to give himself a death he wanted.
He left Chirin with no closure and only more grief. I watched the wolf and he seemed to let Chirin kill him. That was messed up and wrong and even though Chirin got his revenge the wolf got an “honorable” death in his twisted mind.
Ahhh
So morally gray
@@TrueLN334 no it's the force unleashed
A game
@@captainfordo5055 there was a quote in revenge of the sith, i think thats what theyre talkinh about
There’s a bull that’s actually has those straight horns BUT...it’s a dangerous breed in Italy and Mexico
Maybe... Chirin's dad was actually a bull?
@@uwuplzendme6200 wait WHAT
JustynPlays ;)
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The wolf didn't kill him because baby mobs don't drop mutton
Underrated
Ark refference?
@@C104-k5m Minecraft.
@@C104-k5m do you are have the stupid?
@@RobertMcBride-is-cool *finally, i have found the singe braincell this hellbent earth runs on*
Even disregarding the book's intention for the moral, there's an anti-revenge sentiment within the movie as well: "If you pursue vengeance, you run the risk of turning into the thing you sought to eradicate." Sure, he grows up to admit the wolf's a father figure to him and claims that vengeance is no longer on his mind, but that's because he's been transformed into a wolf by that point, so to speak. That was part of the outcome, but not the whole consequence. As a consequence for living his life as a wolf, he cannot be accepted as a sheep. That's why he's turned away even after defending them. As a consequence for becoming a wolf, he now has to live a solitary existence up on the mountain as Woe did before him, and more than likely die like Woe did as well.
My headcanon is that Chirin lives up on the mountain where Woe once lived, protecting the herd by driving away other predators, but being feared by the herd as well.
It's only when a rather bullheaded and headstrong ewe goes astray that he gets to meet someone who will listen to his tale... but not stay with him longer than a night or two, because she doesn't want to leave the herd, she just thought she could tell him to leave because she didn't understand what Chirin was doing.
"also how did the bell stay around his neck as he grew bigger"
NOW WE'RE ASKING THE REAL QUESTIONS
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The bell obviously has soulbound
I've seen dogs who've been neglected when they were a puppy and their skin would grow around their collar and it would be so bad and infected that they would need surgery to get it off.
poor lamb
The darkside of the force is a path to many abilities some considered to be unnatural
Puberty had definitely a huge effect on Chirin. He looks hella badass at the end.
“He has become a very great threat.” -Obi-Wan Kenobi.
He's also voiced by Kenshiro from Fist of the North Star himself: Akira Kamiya
And the wolf? Seizo Kato (Also known for voicing Megatron in the G1 Japanese dub)
I'm pretty sure he turned into a pokemon. Because there is no real animal that looks like that
We think momma chirin liked herself some highland cattle sausage.
@@RiderNexus He sounded pretty familiar, to me... now I know why
Every time you recall the "heaven" scene, I can't help but think he got a game over but respawned at his last checkpoint.
Kinda reminds me of when you'd die or desync in Assassin's Creed and were left just kind of running through a void as the game loaded the last checkpoint.
“You- you’re finally awake. You tried to cross the border, right?”
"No, no, no. That's not what happened. Let me begin again."
I thought it représente his birth.. He is happy in a paradise and then came to real life..
I think the moral is that even an innocent lamb will turn into a murderer if they experience enough trauma. Basically it’s saying the world sucks and turns good people bad
Basically how I sum up Drago Bludvist from How To Train Your Dragon 2 in a nutshell. Too bad the plot didn't care about his side of the story....
I think the moral of The Ringing Bell is as Nietzche put it - *""He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee.""* even if Chirin gave up trying to kill Woe, along the way he became just as ruthless, bloodthirsty and violent.
He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword?
Thats what I was thinking too. He became the very thing his mother warned him about.
@keoni gamer DOOMSLAYER screaming "RIP AND TEAR" can be heard in the distance.
I think the sheep was in continuous fall from the innocence he once bore, literally and figuratively, to seeing his maternal figure being killed, losing his maternal spirit, only to kill the impossible paternal figure and ultimately became the outcast - a lamb lost his mother, being taught by the wolf who killed his mother, whom he killed in defending the sheeps, to only become the ultimate outcast. Both for dealing with his own, inner demons (through regret and not fulfilling the killing of the sheeps and killing his, impossible paternal figure) and defying the natural ways of nature.
Chirin borne the demon the day he saw his mother being killed and that demon is the vengeful approach, imbued in the figure of the wolf. He wanted to be taught the power of the wolf, the power of the demon that which killed his mother, his maternal figure and spirit. This is against his genuine nature - you cannot teach a lamb to become a wolf. Even if the impossible was done, which it did, and Chirin viewing the wolf as his paternal figure, that just furthers the idea of it being unnatural and impossible, he could not make himself slay the very same thing that he is; he cannot kill himself. If he did, he would definitely have gone too far. Up to this point, he had already shown the sheeps what he is capable of. So, when he defended against his paternal figure and killed him, he killed the paternal spirit as well. The impossible, paternal spirit despite that the wolf taught him that nature takes and gives and taught Chirin his ways, it was still against nature. So, when he defended against his impossible teacher, whom he viewed as a paternal figure, he further just alienated himself indefinitely. He couldn't let go of the vengeful spirit that led him to seek out the wolf to kill him, he couldn't resist against the temptation of being taught of such power and he couldn't fulfill his teachings, which was against his own nature - his innocence, his purity continuously declined to insurmountable depths. It climaxed when he killed his paternal father figure. Even his father figure was grateful that it happened - perhaps for multiple reasons; the sheep gave up on the unnatural way and being killed by his own pupil (which isn't unlikely in Japanese history). Chirin was then the ultimate, unnatural outcast who became the embodiment of loneliness heard from afar as a myth or legend through the vague sound of the bell - the only thing that gave the sound of his former innocence.
Inuk Larsen why did I read all of that and why is it so correct??
W H E R E ' S T H E L A M B S A U C E ? !
In my ass
ITS FUCKING RAAAWWWWWWW!!!!!!
The real question that gets brought up when you’re watching this movie.
*"WOT AH YOOO!"*
"An idiot sandwich."
*"IDIOT SANDWICH,* _*WOT!?*"_
"An idiot sandwich, Chef Ramsay."
"YOU. YOU. AND YOU, FuCK oFF!"
“He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster . . . when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you”
― Friedrich Nietzsche
Pretty sure that's the whole premise of the film. Really got me in the feels when I saw it.
I agree.
The wolf was happy to die. He knew his lifestyle would lead to death. He was “honored” to have been killed by the lamb. The fascinating part is the lamb actually got exactly what he wanted, even though he felt bad afterward: to kill the wolf who murdered his mom. However, after achieving this, the lamb realizes he now has nobody to love. His old flock won’t accept him, and the wolf is dead; inevitably this was bound to happen simply because the lamb chose to become as his enemy. Even the wolf said he knew his lifestyle would lead to death- and if not for the lamb, he would have also lived his life in solitude. This begs the question: should the lamb have gone after and then become friends with the wolf in the first place? Had he stayed with his flock, he would have always had somebody to love. Then again, had he not “become a wolf” so to speak, he would not have been the warrior it took to kill the wolf in the end and save his old flock. But who can blame his old flock for not re-accepting him after he attacked them, and who can blame the lamb for killing his “father” the wolf? The film ended the way it should have: the lamb roaming in solitude. This was the path he chose, his “price” for becoming what it took to defeat his enemy. What an accurate depiction of life: for many of us, it seems our life experiences have been pre-determined from the start. Whether we remain with our flocks or become the enemy itself, both negative and positive things will derive either way. Either more sheep will be killed by this particular wolf with nobody there to stop it, OR a traumatized little lamb will cross over to the “dark side”, so to speak, and end up living his life in wandering solitude. The flock should be grateful for the lamb having left to join the wolf, even though I’m sure they talked bad about him behind his back. The lamb truly is a hero in this story, and it can be viewed as though he essentially sold at least a part of his soul to the ways of darkness in order to save his old flock from death. They’ll never appreciate what he did, but at least he did the right thing, in regards to saving his old flock. Even though he’s now a homeless vagabond with nobody to love, at least he did the right thing. He got what he set out to do, yet necessarily by becoming a “wolf” himself, when it come time to kill the real wolf, it was as though the lamb killed a part of himself in the process. Now the lamb lives, we can sometimes hear his bell in the distance; he’s alone, and badly scarred, but he did the right thing, so he lives. 🙏
Everything you said explains the film’s creator’s experience as a soldier during WW2. To be a soldier, you have to kill people, sometimes brutally. Killing people is traumatic, and living with the stress of being killed or watching fellow men die can warp and scar a soldier mentally. And if a soldier lives to see the war end and returns home, they are not the same person. They have done horrible things to protect the ones they love. If their loved ones saw for themselves the things their veterans did, they would probably react the same way the sheep did in the film. Unfortunately, this is where many veterans end up: isolated and having to live with what they’ve become. Like Chiron on the mountain.
@@hannahpense9973 that makes alot of sense, soilders do start out innocent like Chirin. They are taught there is good and evil in the world. It’s black and white. Then they go to world and come back and they are like Chirin, they have changed so much that people can not understand how the cruel experience changes them. It matches Chirin exactly and his situation.
Which is sad because he realizes life is cruel and yet the path of revenge isn’t always fulfilling or exciting like the movies. There’s no guarantee revenge will solve anything
Adding onto this: wolves are social animals, so a lone wolf at Woe’s age is a sad sight, and most struggle to survive because of how dangerous hunting is, it wasnt necessarily the life of a wolf that led to death, but the life of a *lone wolf* that does
When I look at chirins design when he's grown up, I see traces of the wolf. Like its representing how his demeanor changed while he was raised by the wolf.
Me in class: *laughing*
Teacher: what are you laughing at
Me: nothing
My brain: Bambo
I laughed at the little foot picture the most, it was too golden
For some reason when I said bamboo in my head I started giggling XD
You’re fucking stupid
@@thepretender3814 ᴅᴀᴍɴ, ᴄʜɪʟʟ ᴏᴜᴛ.
@@thepretender3814 Someone pissed in your cereal or something?
Brings a whole new meaning to "Woe is me."
"I want to be strong like you!"
Classic anime.
No
he becomes like the wolf, just as he wanted. he just didnt know what that really meant. living alone, learning the cold truths. thats the only real 'moral' i gathered from the end.
the anime explicitly states he didn't become a wolf, he became something neither sheep or wolf. he rejected both lifestyles and now he doesn't fit in anywhere. the moral of the story is that he should've not been a pussy and instead gone all the way, murdering the shit out of that little kid and lived happily ever after with his owo daddy
Sad
Chirin was forced to grow up and realize life was just about how cruel it was and how some just stand by and watch.
Also when killing Woe, he thought that will make sheep accept him back but then he realized they didn't care for him anymore and he just slayed the only being to whom he mattered anything. He just continued the cycle of suffering his father figure beared, as he probably was thrown out of his pack too and thus lived alone with no real desire to live. Maybe him too, were just too blinded with desire to hold all the power and decided to leave and train himself to be a powerful fighter. Probably it would end the same when Woe would die from old age anyway, as he was his only friend and sheep wouldn't accept him back. Just without the even more sadder consciousness that he is the reason of his death and they could live their lives together for a longer time if he didn't betray him.
And by becoming something strong enough to kill the wolf, he became frightening to the defenseless sheep who could not and would not protect themselves, and instead relied on the dogs/farmers who often failed the herd.
You hear the same kind of "You're too scary, go away!" arguments against arming the populace at times.
To be strong like a wolf. Not weak
like a sheep. To choose our own
destiny or wait to die a boring
death. We can all decide our
fate with strength or weakness.
Buts it's that strength and
weakness that makes us who
we are. Sheep or Wolf. Strong or
weak. Demon or Angel. Good or evil.
That’s kind of a thing though he went against his nature to find strength but in the process of coping with his loss his mind ceased to default into thinking like a sheep. Yet he never ceased to be a sheep but he became something that the society he was brought up in could not accept thus he was doomed by luck
You can say that everyone has a choice whether we want to be good or bad in our life. We are the masters of our own fate
what a fascinating story. Chirin wants to become more than what he is. Lambs are pretty much destined for slaughter. Either by me, wolves or very strong hawks. Chirin figured out the only way to defy his fate is to learn from the very animal that killed his mother. The wolf is the brutal side of nature - a carnivore and the strongest thing chirin has ever witnessed. Learning from the wolf unlocks his full potential. He is something new and different, which is why the horns are shaped as such. The potential he's unlocked comes with a price. He is feared by the other sheep. He kills his master as all sith must do, and is a unique oddity in nature. Neither sheep nor wolf.
This implies that you personally go out and slaughter lambs lol
@@ShubaSayori only once a year lol
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So I guess you can say that you were unnerved by...
...the silence of the lambs
Kyle Rush *plays the footage of peter rubbing the bridge of his nose while groaning*
Get out
Insert bad joke drum sound effect.
Wah-wah-wahhhhhhhhh...
BOOOOO, YOU STINK!
I've watched this movie before, but watching this video helped me see what the underlying story is of this film.
It's a symbolic story of a child victim of war who decides to become a soldier after their mother is killed by a soldier.
The sheep being gentle civilians, which Chirin throws away to become a wolf (soldier). The sheep reject Chirin even after defeating the enemy, because he's a terrifying veteran, like how society puts up a wall to its veterans, fearful of what their nature may now be.
At least, that's what I see now
Yep. Someone strong enough to kill, disable, or defeat a monster/enemy soldier is just as scary to the vulnerable as the monster itself.
That was the intent of the original author of the book. He himself was a veteran.
*see's Chirin train under Woe and become a dark lord of the sheep, only to be instructed to kill the sheep later*
Is this Sheep Star Wars?? xD
Not just the rams, but the ewes and the lambs too
Dark lord of the sheep i have seen this one but with humans and lazer swords
Sasuke asking Orochimaru to train him
Sheep Wars
Farm Wars?
As the old saying goes, he's a wolf in sheep's clothing. Maybe that was what the makers of this film were thinking what they came up with the main character but this is very emotionally touching
Agreed on the bird scene in Shrek. It always upset me when I was younger...
GUYS I KNOW ITS A JOKE
IT WAS STILL DISTURBING
I don't think Princess Fiona necessarily aas going for killing the bird. She was just so singing-competitive towards him that as a group of parodizers, the Shrek filmmakers decided to take it so far to find a way to crack us up. And that scene did make me laugh and yet feel very bad for the bird at the same time since he died anyways.
Because Shrek aims basically to be a "anti-fairy tale" movie, or a parody in that case. That scene was basically dark comedy.
The scene with the frog and snake getting blown up as balloons also kind of upset me as a child
@@dontask2421 You've really never heard of black comedy have you?
@@kaylemathewcomendador7614, no, I really enjoy it, but I definitely didn't when I was really young.
To be fair, Sanrio also produced the awesome Aggretsuko series with a death metal screaming red panda protagonist.
Which is freakin adorable
Let's not forget Unico which is utterly depressing
There's also one Hello Kitty Episode, with a murderous witch-goat grandma that's - kinda scary, especially in a Hello Kitty context
Protein
SHITTY BOSS!
It’s a largely known plot technique where a child is put under the wing of their parents killer who eventually becomes a paternal figure to them. Mostly in anime and manga. Like a latest example would be Vinland saga
Piccolo training Gohan right after Piccolo killed Goku
@@danmajid5401 At this point, does goku even "dies" anymore?
@@alexisXcore93 Nobody said anything about 'this' point. It was significant when it happened at 'that' point.
@@danmajid5401 still better parenting than goku
@@bondrewdthelordofdawn3744 Right because throwing an untrained toddler to into a mountain is such good parenting
The wolf liked Chirin because he's brave compared to the other sheep
In order to kill the wolf, he had to become a wolf. This is why the sheep abandoned him at the end. They no longer see him as a sheep but as the very thing that preys on them.
You either die a sheep or live long enough to see yourself become the wolf
In real life is like you started out as an civilian as an child and end up serving as an soldier in an army as an adult and the adult version is nothing like his younger version.
except he did not become the wolf. He bacame something that is neither wolf nor sheep, who is doomed to be alone and not belong anywhere
@@bqgin in short an monster
@@andrewgan557 And then the civilians spit on you and call you "babykiller" for following generals who had to accept a war started/exacerbated by incompetent politicians.
Steve reviews subscribers be like:
We like being sad.
@pkslider725 I didn't realize my comment got highlighted shit. i was right clearly
More like "Please review this f up thing!"
Too right!
I actually do enjoy feeling sad sometimes. Which is why I adore this f-ed up movie so much ;v;
Yup
Highland cattle and Black Wildebeest have their horns facing forward.
I think the reasons Chirin's horns are facing forward is because
1. That was his design in the book
2. It's like that so that it's easier for him to kill his enemies by impaling them
3. It's meant to compliment his dark design, make him more dangerous and demonic looking.
but those are just my theories...
I knew about wildebeests but highland cattle are ADORABLE! So fluffy!
"Demonic-looking" my thoughts exactly. He looked cool honestly. More like some weird dragon not a sheelol
This is my interpretation of the moral of the book and movie.
Book: It's nice and simple, don't let revenge consume you.
Movie: I'd say it's more of a Pacifism vs. Violence thing, and how one should try and strike a balance of the two, and the consequences of if you go fully into one or the other, using Chirin's transformation from lamb to wolf as an example. Be too passive, and you'll be like a lamb. Weak, complacent and ultimately doomed to die a meaningless death. Be too violent, and you'll become a wolf. Strong, but consumed by anger and doomed to die a sad death.
Exactly, that is why the ending in the movie is better, than in the book
In regards to his horns in adult form, its clearly an artistic choice to make him look less like a ram and more like a preditor (actully looks more like a deer in the end in regards to the body shape and proportions). The closest IRL example of his horm type is a black wildabeast, but even then simple horn deformity would fit better with the type of animal that he is and the placment on the head. This can come about randomly in a gene pool of sheep or by the sheep breeding with those that are to close to them genetically. He could also be a hybrid, if a diffeent sheep type or even goat got into the pasture they would want to make sure any produced from the union were culled, hence why he had the bell, to make him for observation of any genetic deformaties under suspision of being a hybrid.
.......that went allot deeper then i intended.
I think it’s kind of utilizing Christian symbolism a bit.
In Christianity lambs are seen as innocent and good, and those horns Chirin gets resemble demon horns often depicted on art.
Cassidy Whitfield
*black wildebeests enters*
*preditor*
@LaumiRez Agree with you
I've got to be honest: Considering that Chirin *_ALMOST MURDERED_* those sheep, I for one can't blame them for locking him out.
I mean, yes, it's good that he had a change of heart and killed the wolf who'd come after them in the past- but that doesn't change the fact that he was ready to kill them all. If some guy broke into my house and tried to kill me, but stopped himself at the end and left... well, my thanks to him for the merciful change of mind, but I'm still going to call the cops on him.
Granted, it was cold of the other sheep to just leave Chirin in grief over his dead mother in the beginning, never bothering to help or anything, but still: their choice at the end makes sense. Chirin brought that on himself.
Sad and cruel... But true and realistic
That reminds me of a certain exchange.
Chirin: YOU TURNED AGAINST ME?!
Other sheep: You have done that yourself!!
Chirin: YOU WILL NOT TURN YOUR BACKS ON ME!!
Other sheep: Your anger and your lust for power have already done that.
Don't white knight or
You'll pull an Igp
I think the sheep just froze up at those intense moments, as sheep often do irl.
*Cough* veterans being rejected/feared by former friends and their former community.
Maybe the moral of the story is that anger and revenge can really turn someone's life from happy to miserable.
Possibly. Chirin was after revenge, yes, but (at least in the dub) he was also aiming to "become a wolf" because he wanted to get stronger. He hated how the other sheep were weaklings who, despite living in a large group, couldn't even stand up to a single wolf. Chirin wanted to be stronger, both to kill the Wolf and to protect himself so as to not meet the same fate as the weak sheep who were helpless to predators.
In the end, I doubt it was worth it.
Like Anakin Skywalker?
My theory of the horns are : if Chirin kept smashing his head towards things, his horns would end up breaking and deforming to this
I think the moral is that violence only leads to further violence, not heroism. That’s actually pretty relevant to real life, where unjust violence drives young people to become just as destructive.
Like blm antifa and SJW groups
@@gorgeousfreeman4836 Like white supremacists killing innocent people with guns because they represent what they hate
@@SuperBlackcesar yeah and how does antifa going around beating up random people stop mentally ill and white supremacist people? If anything it creates more extremism
@king, I can see where you get this, but peace will usually lead to thought of as weak. You still have to stand your ground, however peace is good if something like, your roommate eats all your twinkies. Good reason to kill a man in my opinion,nah jk, that’s a non-violence theme. If somebody is constantly stealing, hitting, you know what, just over all bullying you then you gotta fight back so you don’t go down without a fight and become a easy target in the eyes of others.
@@alexthompson8977 Implying that you are not bad because somebody else is, it's not a defense. It's called deflection and it is a very boring and lazy way to debate. Typical of people that don't have valid arguments
The Thomas face and the simpsons memes make this video twice as great
That name mad this comment great.
Ikr XD
I am SO happy you said that thing about Fiona KILLING THAT BIRD AND EATING HER EGGS.
Addie B yes! My mom never let me watch Shrek as a child, so when I was in a friend’s house and they had it turned to that scene I was horrified. It instantly made me think that maybe my mom was right
I think the scene's humor derives from the fact that it is so unabashedly cruel. I remember watching it and after the laughter dies down, someone, through their chuckles, said, "that is so messed up." Plus the visual transition was a pretty good visual gag in its unexpected-ness.
Whatsdogpee ya i get now that it’s just dark humor, but I think it’s just the fact that it’s 1: for kids and 2: the character that you’re supposed to like, that’s kinda messed up
That was messed up
Addie B It's actually dark humour. When I was a young child, I basically thought "that's kinda messed up". I still love that movie though 😂😂😹😹
Sheep and goat horns are malleable at young ages, and can grow in all kinds of shapes and directions if the "buds" are manipulated or damaged. This was used in real life by a circus performer to physically merge the horns to create goats with a single horn, which he passed off as unicorn ponies (true story, you can find the surgical diagram for how to do it even). But you don't need a scalpel to change how they'll be. A few good smashes with a hammer (that don't kill the creature) will radically alter how they turn out when the buds "take root" and start becoming bone. Chirin's childhood of smashing his head into stuff could have easily caused his horns to grow forwards instead of curving. It could have just as easily had them grow into his own skull and kill him tho...
Me: *sees momma sheep cuddling her baby*
Bambi trauma: long time no see
+Poker Freak Come on. Those scenes are really sad :(
Bambo will fight back
@@Spookythereaper3 i cried very hard when bambi lost his mother 😭😭
Lyrical Fawn We all did. I read the book, and they changed it to bambi's mum getting lost, when she was supposed to be dead 😔
@@jargozle5393 bambo
Two robbed my house and killed my brother, now they are my personal trainers.
Which he ends up killing the wolf in vengeance. Earned his trust and made the wolf like him and ended up killing him.
Gorgeous Freeman That’s also how the Sith rule of two works.
@@gorgeousfreeman4836 But what really sucks is that he is still rejected from the farm and ends up mourning over his father figure that he killed out of emotion, and he lives forever in isolation and sadness. Kind of a strange ending but damn
@Ice That didn't make a lick of sense
@Ice Sheep are just assholes
The moral of the film is simple and clear:
Those who wish to follow the path of the strong, must prepare for a lonely life, void of comfort and happiness, where every day is a fight to survive.
yep
That and sheeps are assholes.
Well it seems like being strong sucks in this movie
Not at ALL the weak also fight to survive every day in this movie, and mostly die alone. There's no distinction between the two.
Its simply just Japanese culture pushing the narrative that love is a dangerous emotion that causes you to become a sith lord so to speak. Its REALLY outdated.
@@ThatLazyL1zard that's why they are so depressive
4:15 Actually, the better translation explains that Chirin has far more energy 'than all the lambs in the plaster put together', meaning he probably gets lost/wanders off more often.
the horns remind me of the red bull's horns from "The last Unicorn. "
Mr. S Don’t mention that name
At first I thought you meant from the energy drink logo, which they do.
There is some sheeps that can have those horns. Its useually a effect in the horns.
That was an... interesting movie
That’s exactly what I thought, but I couldn’t remember what movie it was from
Chirin: seems to die multiple times
Wolf: HOW ARE YOU ALIVE?!?
*Homershrugging.gif*
Chirin: FOOL! THIS ISN'T EVEN MY FINAL FORM!
the wolf decided to train him to test his undestructability (?)
He obviously has shounen protagonist plot armor.
Plot armor fr
The wolf: *kills Chirin’s mother*
Chirin: I want to learn from the wolf so I can kill him!
Everyone: You became the one thing you swore to destroy!
This reminds me of the force unleashed
So. . . Vinland Saga.
How many copies
Anthony Ramirez Star Wars: Force Unleashed?
@@prehistoricfanboy101 how starkiller is trained by Vader and eventually ends up beating the shit out of him
This might have already been mentioned here, but I'd like to point something out about the bell. It's an old animal husbandry (ranching) custom in some areas of the world to designate a young male from the herd or flock as the "bellwether." The bellwether is castrated and specially conditioned to be the most responsive to the rancher's calls, while simultaneously being the one member of the herd/flock to which other members tend to follow or gather around, for the purposes of easier herding and field rotation.
Hence, the poignant, if subtle, cosmic irony: Chirin was meant to lead his flock, but instead lost himself to the monstrosity which stole his mother's life and his innocence. It's poetic when you think about how he was supposed to live a life of contentment and companionship...only to be left abandoned to a cruel fate of solitude, all because he could not accept his grief and make peace with himself.
Dude, you got the moral of the anime wrong. Chirin had the right intention to become strong to stand up for himself and his loved ones. But he lost his way and became a wolf, and he realized it too late
@@hob_channel Did you actually read that old comment? Or did you just see turns of phrase you didn't recognize/understand and immediately jumped to your keyboard to criticize someone else's subjective take on a vintage narrative, one with multiple different possible readings and interpretations? The irony here is you didn't even suggest something all that different from what I said. You just used more direct phrasing that leaves out subtlety and nuance.
“Oh my god it’s Scarface I mean he evil wolf”
Best. Quote. Ever.
Your profile pic gave me cancer
*me and my friends silently laugh in the corner*
'Get in pussy, we're gonna find those Farthing creatures!'
Mary Graphman why does his profile pic give you cancer?
I agree, it is.
Chirin is the most badass lamb/ram ever. :) I was shocked when I first saw this movie, but then I grew to love it.
My name is Chirin,
You killed my mother,
Prepare to die.
Princesse bride yessssssss
I saw this at age six and loved it immediately. I always thought the moral is pretty clear: we become what destroyed us. We unconsciously seek to overcome trauma by becoming the trauma. It’s a vicious circle. The sheep represent regular people and later reject Charin alluding to the stigmatization abused and traumatized people suffer. They truly have no home because they become monsters to be kept out.
I completely agree with this and I'm glad you said it but I'm worried about how that's the moral you got when you were six.
Here's a fun fact: In the English dub Chirin is voiced by the same actress who voiced Rita Repulsa in the English dub of the Power Rangers.
Why Chirin has odd pointy horns?
Maybe his horn buds got distorted in some way during the intense training as a baby and grew into that shape (Our cows had these problems sometimes.) Horns, just like nails can grow in any shape or direction when damaged while growing stage.
...or he just became a demon. (o.o)
Or mayyyybe...
The wolf actually is an over intelligent being and knows how to alter DNA
Chirin have became an monster. Since the way How he grew UP was not normal. Cause the one WHO raise him was an wolf so he behave and looks Like one.
Also, there are breeds of sheep that do grow horns straight (or more than one set of them), like the platean criollo sheep and others. So, yeah it's plausible that he got two fucking bayonets growing out of his head
@@riograndedosulball248 however chirin's breed looks like the breed which the Rams have the usual curly horns
Tiia Kahila he actually reminds me of Devilman
Maybe the horns were a result of what I like to call "Controlled Development", where you break something that you know grows back until you get the desired result
Chirin reminds me a lot of Anakin Skywalker. He's innocent as a child and in his younger years, becomes corrupted by his anger and turns to the darkness (with Anakin it was through Palpatine and with Chirin it was through the wolf), then he kills the one that he turned to in the past.
Execpt Anakin gets redeemed unlike Chirin
Even the way they look in the end both no longer looking human or in chirins case sheep such as anakin being more machine than man as vader become taller and inhuman breathing and chirin no longer looking like a sheep and his fur darkens and horns curve unnaturally makeing him look like a monster
But anakin killed the children
@@shadytvcomics9692 Annakin also unintentionally destroyed the life of his own wife, probably because of his bad boss Palpatine being Palpatine as usual. He also destroyed the lives of women and men, children and adults alike, across the many worlds that he’d conquer with an iron fist. Shivers.
@@wiibrockster They both do, the difference is that Anakin was forgiven, Chirin wasn't. But I can understand why he became a monster in the end.
That ending always gets me...😥
Also about Chirin asking the wolf to teach him to be stronger. I figured Chirin realized he couldn't fight the wolf himself so figured that in order to kill the wolf, he must become strong like one himself. I also believe the wolf took him in eventually was because he saw Chirin's potential due to his stubborn determination.
This story's moral I honestly found quite tragic as in a lot of ways I think it kinda is true. It is a story about conformity and what happens if you don't do. He was a sheep who was unsatisfied by their sheepish qualities. He decided to leave for vengeance something very not sheepish. He found the wolf who had no interest in killing him. Throughout the journey he discovered that he liked how the Wolf overcame everything sheep could not and so asked to become a Wolf.
The Wolf does so and our lead becomes like a mighty wolf. When it came the day to finish his training and become a Wolf culturally he chooses not to rejecting Wolfish culture and killing his father figure.
He decides to join the sheep again but finds they reject him. He is not passive like them. He kills their protectors and the invincible enemy. What is he? Is he a sheep in Wolf's clothing or a Wolf in sheep's clothing? He is neither and so with no one like him around he leaves to be forever alone.
The lesson of course being that if you don't conform to culture and decide to rebel against it, you will find that people will reject you. What a sad haunting little story. Absolutely love it to pieces.
Makes total sense when you think of the values of its country of origin. Japan has a strong philosophy of "the nail that sticks out gets hammered down".
Chirin was that nail.
He could've accepted his fate as a sheep. His first mistake was going against that and seeking out the wolf. He then made a commitment to become stronger than the wolf (which could've worked in his favor), but he began to lose his original goal. Once he had learned the way of the wolf, he no longer desired to kill him. He had essentially become the monster he had sought to kill. He had been given a new role. The big mistake he made after that was not committing to it. The moment he saw the sheep cower before him is when he finally realized that being the wolf was not what he wanted to do... He wanted to kill the wolf! That was what he originally wanted! But by then it was too late. He tried to back out, but his fate was sealed; so when he killed the wolf, that was when he left himself with no where to fit in, and other options.
And thus, he was hammered down.
Doomed if you rebel. Doomed if you don’t.
That would make sense if the rebel wasn't the one who killed his mom
Let's Read Textbook the way I see it is this:
Sheep are by nature submissive and defenseless animals. When his mother died, he sought vengeance, which is not really in a sheep’s character. So Chirin then denies his nature and transforms into something else. When he’s finally strong enough to destroy his enemy, he is now no longer a sheep. He killed his friend, he lost his mother, and the people who he grew up with no longer recognize him. Revenge turned him into something else.
I think what the film was trying to say was, don’t seek vengeance, it will change you beyond what you’re supposed to be.
Maybe there’s a bright side to this story. The wolf is dead, and Chirin has sacrificed his own comfort and well being to ensure the safety of his sheep for generations to come.
Whitebeard Fanboy So this isn't about culture. The tragedy is trying to change one's nature.
"You must never leave the fence" his mother's first and final words. Yet he leaves his herd and ends up joining the enemy. Now after joining the wolf and almost killing his own he kills the wolf instead yet it just shows the others he cant be trusted. His front facing demon horns means he has become something unearthly.
Sadly if he would have listened to his mother and stayed in the herd for protection who knows if he would have prepared himself for the wolfs return or go back to being a pasture grazer to be slaughtered with his herd . Its a double edge sword
the moral of the story is you can't have it both ways. i think in the end chirin became a mountain goat and was the first of his kind.
Sounds just like the anakin skywalker tragedy
@@butterskywalker8785 Except he got some sort of redemption, Chirin just got pain. Unless there's a Chirin 2, of course.
@@erenrager6679 we need chirin 2 where Chirin pulls up a sandpeople massacre and slaughters innocent animals out of rage
I've gotten severe emotional whiplash watching this film!
The sheep never let Chirin back in the flock is because, despite killing off the wolf, he's still seen as a threat. The wolf was happy to be killed off, because now he has a heir to take his place. Chirin has turned into the predator, fueled by his motivation of getting back at the wolf for killing his mother. But he ended up forgetting his mission, which still would have been a fruitless mission regardless. Now he is forever seen as a violent threat by all. And his bell is the only bit of innocence he has left, but is heard as an alarm.
The moral is: To not be consumed by anger or you'll end up being just as bad, if not worse than the one who hurt you.
"I always knew I would end up dying a miserable death. But I'm glad you're the one who killed me. I'm grateful..."
...Well how the hell am I supposed to feel about that?!
We are all going to die slowly in some apartment in a bed. Some people want to go out with a bang.
That’s sad :(
Japanese culture has a thing about dying with your honor intact.
Woe dying by his students hands in battle (an honorable death) instead of either old age or hunger (a dishonorable death) would make him proud (as weird as it sounds)
As a side note, the Chirin is an actual mythical beast of China/Japan. I think it’s a deer-like dragon, or something like that.
Chinese Unicorn. It appears every One Thousand years or only in the presense of a new sage. They say it is powerful, dutiful and just while remaining peaceful.
Its desire to do no harm is so great, it is said to glide over even grassblades as to not disturb them or the creatures that walk among them.
It has the horn of a unicorn, the face of a camel, and the neck of a Giraffe...........or something like that.
Tentegen And Chirin in the movie is like a warped version of the Kirin. Neat.
@@Tentegen Monster Hunter
This studio also made a movie I love called 'The Sea Prince and the Fire Child'. It was basically a Japanese version of Romeo and Juliet. So good though
They were cousins though
A case of *Sweet home Alabama*
Romeo and Juliet on LSD
Ohhh, I remember that.
@@meowey55 And Hercules had Zeus f*ck up with his family three thrice.
You’re one of my favorite youtubers that doesn’t get talked in the cartoon community.Keep up the good work
Yeah he should get more recognition
*you're
Ianis Gigel I get your point
His cartoon self is cute! :3
LS mark talked about him
I like to think of each of those moments with Chirin walking around in the dream-like fog as a loading screen. Like, it's reloading the game after a supposed death
Sith kills mother, trains the child as an apprentice, apprentice has Heel Realization and kills the Sith. Rule of Two maintained.
Star Lambs.
Lamb wars
You basically described Star Wars: The Force Unleashed videogame
"Is it possible to learn this power?"
"Not from a shepherd."
EXACTLY what I was thinking while watching this.
Wacky Weasel Me too.
„You’ve become the very thing you swore to destroy“
-anakin Skywalker
16 people aren't true star wars fans. Kenobi said that line bub :)
@Demiclea Execute this exact order *right NOW*
@Demiclea holy crap, 137 people now
Knobi said that line not anakin
@That Random Dude now it’s 175, damn boi!
Ringing Bell is one of my favorite movies. The author of the original book, Takashi Anase, grew up during WWII and (this is from an article I read a long time ago and am not 100% on the facts here) wrote Chirin no Suzu as a response to the young people who enlisted, full of ignorant "war is glorious" emotions and got more than they bargained for. Again, I can't find the article, but it does seem possible.
He also wrote "The Kindly Lion", which was also adapted into animation and is an unrelentingly sad story that deals with the tragedy and love surrounding adoption. Certainly a recommendation if you're still taking those in RUclips comments :)
He also did something called "Rose Flower and Joe", which I've never seen but is also apparently heart-twisting.
That’s interesting information. So he writes tragedies for children almost? Also, the parallels between Chirin and the soldiers is pretty neat, those other stories sound cool.
@@abrahemsamander3967 Thanks! He wrote three tragedies for children that I'm aware of, but in Japan he's known for a silly superhero comedy for very little kids. Very interesting person :)
I have all three of his adapted stand alone works on my channel.
Overall it deserves to get attention
this one is actually one of my favorites. I think that the theme / moral is about facing life's hardships. you have to be determined to grow stronger from your suffering, but if you define yourself from that, your entire existence becomes nothing but suffering, either inflicted on yourself or on others
Chirin is basically Anakin Skywalker in Lamb form. Just think about it.
:thonk:
Tarlo The Boar why
Being a star wars fan, that is something we can all agree on
@@phillysteak-t5v "YOU BROUGHT HIM HERE TO KILL ME!"
Mapleshade The warrior clone Yes!
I think the moral lies in the egg scene: Those who seek to use violence will destroy/lose what they sought to protect. But yeah, it’s not wholly clear, maybe due to the tonal shifts?I didn’t watch it though, so that’s just a maybe. 😐
Oh no! You just HAD to bring up Barefoot Gen. 😰😭
Edit: Just read some others’ ideas on the moral below and I like some of those better than mine. 😊
Nova7o9: I actually didn’t think of the scene like that. I agree with your theory, it seems like that’s what the movie was going for with that scene
2:42
The reason it sounds eerie is because it's in a minor key. Because the song sounds like it's supposed to be happy, it sounds strange to hear it in a let that's usually associated with sad music.
thats how I feel about quite a few christmas songs
YAY E MINOR!!!
Y'kno, i never could understand the significance of the major-minor keys...
Care to do a quick music theory lesson with me here? Much appreciated!
Fun fact: domesticated sheep do not lose their wool naturally like wild sheep, hence shearing is needed to help keep them from growing wool uncontrollably. Look at photos of sheep that haven't been shorn, you'll see what I mean. How in the hell Chihiro went years without having is wool shorn and can still stand without collapsing under the weight of his wool is beyond me *Homer Simpson shrug*
The scene from Shrek used to always upset me too
I didn't know Ed Sheeran had such a traumatic upbringing.
Nice Jack Stauber pfp
Let’s get a remake.
NOT LIVE ACTION! I’m looking at you Disney
Geezer Disney's turning classics into live action...
You are racists.. So many sheep actors wait for that movie
@@anna.owo. haha lol
Idk I'm excited for the live action remakes. Lion king is gonna be great.
What about a cgi film?
In regards to how the sheep act, I think it's a matter of them being consigned to their fate; they live their lives as comfortable as they can while accepting they'll be eaten someday (kinda like the rabbits from the warren of the shiny wire in Watership Down). By training under the wolf, Chirin rejected his complacent nature, which is reflected in how his appearance changes into an unnatural animal near the end. Even though he saves the sheep they reject him because for all intents and purposes he's no longer one of them and their nature is to fear anything unlike them.
I think this film is a great example of how western and eastern values differ. Western countries root for the underdog and listening to your heart/doing what you think is right. Eastern countries value duty and overcoming emotion during times of strife.
@@The_Moe_Szyslak_Exp_feat_Homer No hemisphere can be defined in such vague terms.
They actually mention the horns turning from a "tool forged by nature" to a "weapon". It's honestly one of the simplest but best executed visual representations for a character's outward appearance molded by his internal and emotional evolution. Like I reference this all the time. The design is so simple but I have always admired it. It's just so damn good. And so effective at characterizing Chirin's adult nature at a glance.
Also this moral is so foggy for me, because I think it is saying that someone who is molded by a bad environment will appear bad even if they try and change and to maybe be kinder to those in transitional periods of their life who have had a tough childhood. I also think it was a warning not to become a violent person taken in by power because you will end up alone if that is all you treasure. BUT WHAT I ACTUALLY FEEL PERSONALLY IS your own personal suffering was traumatic for you but people don't give a shit and even if you save them in the end you gain nothing from doing the right thing. As SHITTY AS THAT IS TO SAY. It's preferable to dying alone with nothing. I'm always kind of floored at this story because it's so gray and makes me honestly feel so evil for thinking that, but maybe that's the cool thing about it. In almost any other media I believe in the heroic sacrifice but this specific story evokes that petty response of "fuck the rest of the world as long as I'm okay" as unsettling as that side of us is, being gray is pretty human.
I just showed this movie to my friends cuz I watched this when I was little. How I interpreted it is there is different kinds of strength, and the wolf was cruel and brutal with little to no heart except for Chirin. Chirin mistook cruelty for strength until the end, while then he learnt that he does not need to take life to be strong. As in there is a cycle of life and the lambs stay to be murdered by farmers and animals and stand aside and let it happen, while the Wolves take advantage of the weak prey. I love this movie because of the moral grayness of this film. Life is cruel and can shape people in many different ways and you can either be killed or be the killer but in the end Chirin learns there is more than it but at the cost of having no home or family and that is what is truly tragic. Honestly I feel this film needs to be shown to more people because if you take it at face value its like oh no sheep mum dead haha kek wolf got rekt, but there is so much more to it.
@@tempestindustries9446 That's a good way to look at it too. I like that :> Thank you for sharing.
“And then the sheep hail him as a hero.”
Sheep: *shut door*
“Oh”
I don’t know why I laughed so much at that but I did🤷🏻♀️😂
Sheep are assholes.
I Burst out laughing at that. Man, Sheeps are total Assholes
Same
The sheep are the civilian population, & how they truly view Vets when they aren't feeling socially pressured to put on a moral "thank you." Why do you think so many Vets are homeless, kill themselves everyday, & have to put up with sh!tty healthcare/health conditions at many VAs?
@@bryanm9403 so your fine with vets breaking into your house with every intent to kill you, killed the people that were protecting you, but Oh he ended up choosing not killing you, I'm sure you'll be so happy and trusting of them, just because they killed the other killer.
I think when the wolf told Chirin that one thing must die for another to live that some of that got lost in translation. I think the real translation goes along more like some things are meant to die while others live, and the hard truth of that. So when the wolf saw that Chirin didn't die from the fall, whirlpool, etc. , he knew that he was meant to live, and later tried to force him to kill the sheep because he believed they were meant to die. So maybe just more about having a predisposition on nature and the duality of how it can be both cruel and beautiful.
Technically speaking. His horns were starting to curl upward meaning they were about to start to curl around. Maybe he just sharpened them on rocks and never let them curl.
Not sure if anyone has pointed this out yet, but Chirin's name is a reference to the Japanese two-horned unicorn called the Kirin. This is why he has front facing horns.
Another fun fact is that the Japanese word Kirin can also be translated as "Giraffe".
Chirin: I used the the wolf to destroy the wolf
Regarding only Chirin having a bell; the answer is simple: he's a ram. Only ram's have bells. It's a bit odd that he'd be given one so young, but it's possibly to mark him as a ram that the shepherd is going to keep. As with most animal husbandry, it's the males that are raised for meat, and the females for wool, milk, and more sheep. Being given a bell means that Chirin will become a "bell weather" when he grows up-- a "weather" being a castrated adult ram. His job would be to guard and monitor the ewes like a less-bitey sheep dog. His DNA would not go back into the herd, but he would be kept on so the ladies felt safe.
Regarding horns: While I've never head of any ungulates having front-facing horns, there are a LOT of sheep out there that look farm more like goats. Both males and females can have horns. As an example, the Hog Island sheep is one of the rare surviving heirloom breeds of sheep that can be traced to the 18th c. They have goat-like horns and their wool is rather short and straight, adding to their goat-like appearance. As sheep go, they're comparatively smart and are much more hardy than breeds that were bred to be fluffy rather to withstand the elements.
PS: Being head-butted by an adult ram (who can be north of 200lbs) is not unlike getting hit by a car. Admittedly a sheep maxes out at about 25mph, but it's still gonna hurt.