The idea of fish getting addicted to smoking is still a hilarious mental image. Just imagine like a puffer fish puffing up when inhaling and as he exhales and shrinks smoke comes out.
I’m pretty sure the pom-pom that Mary gives Max being one of the only things in colour represents how she brings some colour to and life to his dark grey life
@@eddierivera5501 I think color represents purpose. The mime has an orange scarf showing that their profession is their purpose (since jobs are categorized into 'collars') so Mary giving him the pom pom gave him his purpose
Best bit of the film for me is that anything that either one sends to the other keeps the colour from where it came from. Mary is literally brightening Max’s world, with bee brown letters and parcels allowing him some relief from his monotonous greyscale life, while Max is presenting Mary with his own unique take on his world, while he fosters her curiosity and her passion for knowledge. I must admit, as many times as I have seen this film, I didn’t even notice the Mime’s scarf being orange, but I love how the pom-pom and the fire from the Statue of Liberty are distinct and noticeable, almost as if they gain that colour from the feelings of people. Mary sends the pom-pom, with the hope of making a friend. People see the Statue of Liberty everyday, each able to project their own feelings and aspirations on it. Oven Marjorie Buttersworth uses her lipstick to convey her not so subtle motives. Final bit, before this becomes an essay. In the entirety of the film, there are no straight lines. Everything is twisted and ever so slightly wonky, which is such a refreshing break from the pristine facade of reality. I really can’t say just how amazing this film is, without writing an essay, but it deserves all the attention and praise that it receives.
@@ultimatestickbot6946 actually not true, he spent it on a lifetime supply of chocolate, the entire Noblet collection, and the rest of it I believe he gave to his blind neighbor.
The best quote from this movie is “We don’t get to choose our warts they are a part of us and we have to live with them... we can however choose our friends and i am glad i have chosen you”
Jesus Christ, the ending got me. That genuinely hurt. They didn't get to meet each other in person after all that time. And the letters taped to the ceiling got me a bit choked up.
God, that ending hurt.. One thing that's interesting to me is how Max died smiling looking at the letters Mary sent him. Mary, who tried to kill herself, sits beside his body, smiling at the mementos of their friendship. She holds her baby, who survived Mary's suicide attempts, and appears to be fine and healthy. It feels like... I don't know. Someone who died, someone who tried to die, and someone who was full of life.
16:51 Actually it does have a HUGE impact. When Max wins the lottery, one of the things he buys is the full collection of the Noblit figures. Which he then later sends to Mary to show that he has forgiven her. When Mary was about to hang herself, she gets a knock at her door which turns out to be the neighbor that is delivering the package, and thereby saving her from committing suicide.
Although I think an important lesson here would be to keep an open mind and not immediately red flag it as they could end up being best friends for life.
one of my animation teachers was a claymation artist who molded and rigged the characters. he told us the bubbles in the bath tub scene were created from sex lube
I would allow my child to have an adult pen pal if i was allowed to read every letter they sent. I think intergenerational friendships and interactions are important but i also recognize the world we live in and if their intentions are pure me reading the letters should be no issue. I liked this movie quite a bit
I agree. If the adult pen pal's intention is pure then there shouldn't be any problem with the parent proofreading the letters. I also think the kid should be taught briefly about what should or shouldn't be written (private info or something like that) and then given some privacy to write the letters. My mom, if she hadn't flipped at the idea already, would have sat down with me and instruct me what to write and would have drained the fun out of the whole penpals thing.
I had a 20 year old pen pal when I was 9. I was given a quick run through on what not to share and how careful i needed to be, but nothing was ever proof read... And nothing went wrong.
To clarify I'm not gonna read my kids letters necessarily since yeah i would give them the safety run down i meant i would read the incoming adult letters. Make sure they aren't veering into inappropriate territory.
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Not really a pen pal but when I was like 12 I used to talk to this 20 something guy on Facebook and we were content creators on a fan page of a show we liked lol
@ when i was a kid i used to go hang out om the porch and talk to my elderly neighbor Delmar. I really enjoyed his company and he enjoyed mine. Kids and adults can definitely have mutually enriching friendships and i am all for intergenerational connecting
I really love Max's philosophy of friendship. "We need friends because even if we dont accept ourselves because of our flaws, and true friend will accept you despite your flaws." It's been a while since ive seen the movie, so the quote may be off.
This movie reminds me of my online pen pal I met when I was 12. Him and I talked daily, played video games together and had a similar friendship like Max and Mary. Unfortunately he passed away 2 weeks ago at the age of 61 from stage 4 liver cancer. Thankfully he got to see pics of my son before he passed unlike Mary as he was born a month before his death. Pen pals truly leave a mark in your life...Mark, you were truly one of a kind.
I remember seeing this movie on Netflix before it was removed. As a 12 year old at the time, I was expecting a nice family friendly movie. I finished it, but with a new perspective on animation forever. Still one of my favorite movies of all time
19:54 "If there's one thing I don't like about this movie I feel like the scenes about max talking about his life go on for way too long" As a person with Aspergers, that's one of the biggest and most recognisable symptoms. Not being able to actually know when the other person is bored and just talking until you run out of things to talk about. That's an absolutely phenomenal thing they've done. Made his condition which impairs his ability to talk to others a bad aspect of the writing as it gets boring.
I also have Aspergers and often times find myself doing this as well. I’ll start a story that I think is super interesting and it ultimately just doesn’t have an ending. My family and friends really don’t enjoy it when I do it but just put up with it.
@@Skia_Woodling I THINK I have Adhd and sometimes I do this a lot too! Like I hang out with my roblox friends a lot and I'm the one to talk the most and have the longest sentences
"We don't get to choose our warts. They are a part of us, and we have to live with them. We can however choose our friends, and I am glad I have chosen you."
20:00 actually, i think it fits for max's parts to 'drag' a bit. as a person with autism (what aspergers actually is; its an outdated term), we can ramble on for a while about topics that interest us or that we just know a lot about, even if nobody else really cares. i think it makes it more realistic for his character
i also highly appreciate the fact that max doesn't think less of himself for his autism, and doesn't _want_ a "cure". i find it disgusting how popular the idea of autism being treated as a disease is, and it's a nice refresher seeing autistic characters that accept themselves for who they truly are.
As another person with autism (I did prefer back when Asperger's was still legitimately used in the books as it was a very specific subset and unfortunately most general people hear autism and immediately think of the "incapable of communication possibly screaming" type as popularized by media), I also was going to comment about how Max's sections dragging felt appropriate as I've certainly caught myself rambling on about subjects longer than most would feel comfortable with
Noobslayer73 Backup He had died truly happy, having felt his life had been full, and went to the great beyond with little regret on what he had done with his life and how he had given someone else’s life true purpose as well. His life wasn’t perfect, but he still left it his way all the while with a smile...
As an autistic myself, this has to be the best portrayal of autism I've ever seen. This movie finally does what I think most films that try to portray autism don't do. *They actually spoke to a real autistic person about it and for their feedback!* Finally man...
Something major this film does that a lot of other films routinely fail to do is show Max's autistic traits without any sort of judgement. A lot of films try their hardest to romanticize autism in an effort not to offend people, mainly by putting 'comfortable' traits of autism in the spotlight (savant syndrome, quirky use of language, acceptable special interests like trains) and 'uncomfortable' traits out of view (stimming, loneliness.) Other films can go the opposite direction and portray autism as the worst thing that could happen. In this film, I didn't feel like they were trying to force an opinion on me, mainly because it showed both sides of autism. It wasn't afraid to show the particularly difficult bits (stimming, overstimulation, meltdowns, loneliness, and even difficulty holding a job.) But it also wasn't afraid to show the positive sides SUBTLY...and this is important: they didn't rely on old tropes and stereotypes such as savant syndrome. Max likes solving problems, but he isn't smarter than anyone else. Still, Max's autism helped him in numerous ways, largely in logically analyzing his surroundings rather than having a purely emotional response. As mentioned in the film, Max fulfilled his personal goals and bought what made him happy with his lottery money, instead of seeking out luxuries. He also states early in the film that he quickly moved away from religion because he read books that proved it was illogical. Little things like that guide you to seeing the world as Max does, which is one step at a time, and not largely motivated by goals outside of his reach or interests.
For someone who is diagnosed with Aspergers. I can relate with Max. I don’t feel disabled. I’ve done well in school. Steady relationship. And doing side art work. It sad that some people like my father sees it as a disease. But it’s ok. We live in a society anyway.
"Done well in school" "steady relationship" Then you are of the small minority doing WAY more fortunate then most, no offense. As someone diagnosed with BOTH aspergers, ADHD, and taurrets, my life was and has been hell for the longest time.
I watched this movie when i was 14 with my werid, artsy aunt and boy it broke me. I had terrible depression and was super suicidal and this movie just reaffirmed to me that the world was a dark place and that the good things that happen are dark too. Now i'm 25 and i wished i watched it when i was in a better head-space cos i definitely got the wrong impression. It's a really beautiful movie and even though it negativity impacted me when i first saw it, i never forgot it and sometimes randomly remember it and look back at it fondly. My brother is autistic and it was nice to see Max say he liked being an 'aspie' and didn't want a cure - because i love my brother and he would lose his entire self if somebody could take his autism away. god now i wanna watch this movie again in a new light...
I remember the nurses putting this on for us three years ago at the psych ward (suicide attempts, you know how it is lol)! I was 15 at the time and there were a lot of us with Asperger's or autism (I personally have ADHD but you know...they overlap) and interest in psychology. As someone who wants to be a psychologist with a specialisation in psychopathology, Max saying that he liked being an aspie made me very happy too. It was nice to see a character not want a cure since that's how they usually portray these kinds of characters and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I understand that some people do want to be "normal" but I also know a lot of people with various conditions and neurotypes who don't want to be "cured." Portraying nearly every character as loathing their existence and desiring a cure not only erases the people who feel okay in their existence and makes them feel bad about themselves, but also sets this weird expectation for completely "normal" people. They can't grasp that I find my existence normal and okay and that I don't want a "cure." They tell me that I should, that it's expected to want one. Even my colourblind grandfather who has never expressed the wish to be able to see colours was shocked when I said that I don't want a cure and tried to convince me that he can cure me, that I can be "normal" and do what others do (what exactly does that mean anyway???). I just wish the other kids there would have paid attention to the film, I think it's very beautiful even though it made me cry, it was just so sad.
I hope and I wish to support and cherish you to knowing that even upon the darkenss the stars of light can still shine within itself even upon it all..It acn be something that can produce and create determination. Meaning that even in terrible moments it does not mean it neither continues nor shall get worst in one way or the other you need both either an anchor or a shaking from people that do appreciate you so you should not ever harm hurt nor even be feeling guilty of locking away such emotions like that... Im sorry if it was complicated but know that I am glad of having read this and that I appreciate of yourself
Exact same. I'm 27 and watched it when I was 16 and it seriously fucked me up. My dad had just died two years prior and my brother and I were having trouble coping with our new home environment. Went to visit our artsy cousin and we thought this movie would be interesting and tbh... it even freaked artsy cousin out a bit. We ended up watching Totoro afterwards as a pallet cleanser. My brother was only 10 at the time and even though my family doesnt shy away from tough topics, the suicide scene actually traumatized him. He cant listen to Que Sera Sera anymore. The song was actually ruined for me too but not nearly to the degree it was for him. He has some serious negative connotations with that sing now
Well what is the real world like from your perspectives now? What view do you give it from what it has given you? Is it a nice place? Filled with friendly faces and nice hugs? Or is it simply a dark place where people go to die and simply be forgotten? I ask because after returning to my crime riddle home town I am constantly trying to reevaluate my comfortable view of this world. I feel lied to. Betrayed by my own stupidity and naivety. And protected priveledged isolated life style. I feel confused for how I am supposed to act now in the face of bad moral decisions that I have already begun to commit And I do not know how to simply act and exist in this world. I do not simply feel carefree anymore. I no longer have good goals to aspire to. But bad opportunitys to reap rewards from. In short. Life is tough. Boo hoo. I hate that nobody told me it was this way, the way this movie told it's viewers it. Grow up. Stop crying to strangers online. They don't care .
My English isn't the best (I'm Italian), but I'll try: When Max died, I felt so sad. I am an Aspie, and the idea of being alone, and dying alone, scares me. Luckily, Max was happy when he died, because he knew that he had a friend, his only friend.... Also, your reviews are wonderful, I think I'll subscribe. P.S: 9:36 is my favorite moment.
I also felt for Max. I'm an aspie as well and just the fact that the world _will_ try to cure me, even if I tell them not to, scares, and even enrages me sometimes.
As someone who was diagnosed with Nonverbal Learning Disorder, before everything got new names, Max’s comment about how he feels like there’s nothing wrong with him honestly was refreshing to hear. It’s a nice feeling hearing a fictional character in a movie say they’re like themselves when you can relate to them. It gives me that feeling too. Regardless, another wonderful video and review Steve!
I can speak, always could, when i was diagnosed my symptoms best fit into NVLD but it wasn't recognized by the national medical boards of my country so I instead given an Asperger's Diagnosis
@@spartangoku7610 no, it's called nonverbal learning disability because your verbal skills are average or in most cases above average, but you have trouble with non verbal tasks, like reading body language
“I worked for the army, they said they wanted to know my affiliations, so I showed them my science fiction club card, they said they didn’t need that, but disbanded me anyways, sometimes I just don’t understand it. Anyways I was a Communist for a few years” This is one of the first movies where everything sort of worked for me. Generally when I watch a movie there’s a joke that doesn’t land, or a emotional moment that doesn’t hit as strong as it should. It didn’t really happen here. I think this will be up there as one of my favorite movies even though I just saw it for the first time today, mainly because I haven’t seen a movie that made me both laugh, cry, and leave with a strong message like that before.
That's likely because of the fact that despite everyboy absolutely loving the film (and deservedly so, it's a masterpiece in my opinion), it didn't do very well at all. In fact, I think they made quite a big loss. It's what happens when a movie this labor-intensive is barely advertised.
As someone who is Autistic and is constantly told how unfortunately that is, I cried during this film. I related too hard to Max and it was so refreshing.
I think that Max's fatness actually adds to his story. Like with his Asperger, it is considered an unacceptable part of himself. It is something that needs to be gotten rid of. At the beginning he's being treated for his Asperger *and* fatness. At the end those are the parts of him that the newspaper notes and mocks him for. Like the birthmark, these are things that set them apart for ridicule, and that they have to accept within themselves.
There is no cure for Asperger's because it is the wiring in our brain we can't go and fix that all because if you take that away from that person then who are they is the big question
@James Furey I think you're conflating Autism and disability. There are autistic people who are disabled in the way that you described and there are also autistic people who are not disabled at all. There are non-autistic people who are disabled in the way you described. They are just two different things. Autistic people just engage with the world in a slightly different way than neurotypical people do.
"What kind of grown adult still watches kids cartoons?" No worries. Walter Disney once put it best: "You're dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway." So it's official. The one who made animation big believes animation is for everyone. You're good.
@@q.mercury.q8659 Not really. Animations organized by Walt Disney had adult references and humor in them as well. In fact, Dumbo and Snow White were HUGELY successful among ADULT audiences just as much as kids (adult humor not always necessarily meaning bad or inappropriate for kids, but rather things adults would find funny that kids might not if you explained it to them because... well, they're not adults). Later Disney movies kept this up, including Aladdin where the Genie transforms into characters children wouldn't recognize and makes references to things like Shakespeare ("et tu Brute?") that kids wouldn't get--but that were funny for adults. In addition to animation, Walt Disney (toward the end of his life) started moving toward live action films like Treasure Island and such, leaving the animation to others and only overseeing them for content quality. He created Disneyland with the hopes that people could be just kids (even if grown up ones) and became upset when Disneyland became too commercial with hotels and advertisements in the park. So, he tried to make Disney World where he would own all the land around the park so people could totally immerse themselves in the theme park without alcohol advertisements and things like commercial hotels in sight. But, he passed away before the park was complete. He really was a kid inside and out (and even had a large toy train around his house that he would ride, because--why not?). He lived and meant it. We really are just kids grown up.
@@iamSketchH Actually, Disney World was originally called EPCOT. It was more of a social experiment akin to something like Rapture or a Vault Tec experiment. It was supposedly going to give you a job, and you would have enough money to pay for rent, food, and water. In exchange you were given an Apartment and the top of the line technology. Public Transportation would be used with a people mover, a giant train that would house the city's residents and it would be free. Honestly am curious to see how a city like that would turn out.
14:47 Honestly when I saw the ending I just started crying for Mary cause imagine writing to someone that you don’t know personally for a long time and when you can finally see them in person they end up passing away before they get to see you is just sad and I wanna bet that if Max didn’t pass away, I bet he would of been very happy to see Mary for the first time with her child.
Don't forget that the neighbor who gave her the box had a phobia of going outside and she earned money by giving him his mail. If he hadn't braved going outside, she probably wouldn't be alive
I watched it a few years ago when it was still on Netflix because It was recommend in a list of "movies on Netflix not enough people know about but are actually really good" types of things. Was drawn to it for the claymation format which I'm partial to but ended up really liking the story. I didn't think it was TOO sad personally but I did get a tad emotional here and there. Depends how sensitive you are maybe. Maybe if you liked the summary you'd actually really like it who knows 🤷♀️ Edit: it does have it's dark moments but imo it's definitely not as dark as some of the other movies he's reviewed. It actually has a quit beautiful message about friendship and human connections and the dark themes of it are used to futher underscore that point, it's not without purpose or for shock value. Mary is a stand-in for a lot of us who experience abuse, neglect or trauma in general and the human spirits ability to carry on and heal :)
"I do not feel disabled,defective or a need to be cured,I like being an aspie" as someone with autism, this quote really touched my heart. I feel like this is such an importand message that Aspies rearly ever get to hear. After a life of people trying to cure or heal me, this is such an importand message. People with autism dont need a cure, all we need is an accepting society
Okay...this is a little random, but hear me out. My name’s Kameko and this is literally the first time in my life that I’ve EVER seen someone with the same name as me. Also, I 100% agree with you on society. People with mental imperfections don’t need to constantly be reminded or treated like they’re wrong. Society should be more accepting.
I don't know if I'm autistic or not but I'm an outcast and seen a lots of people said that you have to changed yourself, dress better, bla bla bla. F**k that. If I have to changed from who I am just to fits in with dumb people then I prefer to be alone. I wants people to accept me not accept fake me.
10:20 Speaking as an autistic person myself, I agree with Max. I don't believe people like us are necessarily disabled, we just view the world in a different way.2
im undiagnosed but Im certain I could be placed somewhere on the spectrum based on my experiences, never having friends and not really understanding why people never really invited me to their friendgroups, and just the way I feel about life in general. Personally autistic people could be considered More efficient humans.
I'm close with multiple autistic people, and they're all great. One of them I was buddies with for years before she was diagnosed. The fact that some people see it as bad makes me upset.
@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 They didn't say aspergers was unique. They said "such as apserger's to be an ASPECT of one's unique character". So as a part of somebody's personality and character, which IS unique, at least in the individual nuances.
@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 I’m on the spectrum, and I can confidently say that this statement makes you out to be a huge dick. And I’m not talking about the body part.
I remember watching this movie in high school after being highly recommended to me by a film fanatic classmate. He didn't say anything except it was a story about pen pals. I only watched this once but it is a film that I couldn't forget, especially since it is so relatable even today. It made me cried a lot and I admit, this review made me cry again. Mary and Max had an impact to me. This film, is a reminder to me to appreciate life.
I can relate. My sister's friend pretty much pushed the DVD to our hands and told us to watch it. Well, we did and it stuck with me forever. I was diagnosed with autism years later and remembering Mary & Max still makes me feel good about myself. Warts and all!
I cried for ten solid minutes through this review... Jesus, I couldn't keep it together. I wanted to watch this a few years back but now I realize I couldn't endure the film. What a tug upon the ol heart strings.
Try to watch some real life "lower classes" British doco in which mothers look surprisingly like Mary's mother and children get KFC for dinner every day..
We all have movies like that from our childhoods 🤣🤣🤣 my dad: "hmmm... I guess this ISN'T a family friendly movie eh? Sorry kids 🙃" *insert literally any 80s super macho action film my dad saw in college here*
@@gracehaven5459 80s action films where a joy to watch. Try Invaders from Mars & Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors, chosen by parent's of neglected kids...but the worst was watching Doctor Who Planet of the Spiders.
What i love is how as mary starts off cheery and innocent, and max is stressed and anxious, And then max becomes happier and mary becomes stressed and awful. Even after that Mary becomes happy again, and max dies happy. Resulting in a beautiful ending.
20:00 If Max's talking had been cut down, it would have seriously disrupted a key part of his character. Autistic people tend to ramble at length when you get us talking about our lives or the things we love. Many of us are detail-oriented people and we like to be as informative as possible. Even in this comment, you can see that I tend to write entire paragraphs instead of being concise. Max is a spectacular representation and the fact his lack of filter shows that the creator of the film truly understood how to write an autistic character. This was an awesome video but Max being wordy was *not* a negative. That's how many real life autistic people are.
I myself am on the Autism Spectrum. I don't have Autism down right but I have some. I have noticed that I tend to ramble on when talking. Like I'll be talking to my friends about my D&D campaigns and I'll end up telling them about the entire session when I originally just wanted to tell them about one specific moment
I have many friends who have autism, one moment we are yelling at vr ducks, the next is why we refer to the earth as a gender and what would refer it too.
My friend and neighbor Jim is autistic though I don't believe he has Asbergers. He uses to work as on aircraft electronics systems when he was in the air force. If you've ever heard of the "Wild Weasels" that is the unit he was apart of. Then he worked for NASA as a contractor and certain US intelligence agencies as well. One day, when he was having a pretty rough morning he said to me, "it's just so frustrating that I know how to operate, disassemble, repair, and reassemble multi million dollar state of the art electronic systems, but it takes me over an hour to dress myself!"
Right when Max said “She shot herself with her Uncle’s gun when I was six” right after the gunshot, I got and ad and it said “LOL, Surprise!” It got me laughing for a minute straight
I learned about this movie from the Asperger's scene (where Max is talking about his inability to read emotion and such. It was such a great summary of Asperger's and really got the point across. I never watched the actual movie (I didn't know it was a movie), but god if the scene near the end of the review where Mary visits him didn't fucking hit me like a train
The constant quantifying, taking of things too literally, enjoyment of childish things, inability to recognize emotions or put put emotions into words, and the getting frustrated at the world for thinking Asperger's is something that needs to be cured hits waaaaaaaay to close to home
If I may change the subject for a little bit, I’ve been trying to find whatever series it is that that logo of yours came from for a long time now. Would you please tell me where it came from?
L *Thank you my man!* I used to have almost all the sets. Now I think they’re in storage. But the name slipped from me so it was a hard time looking it up!
I hate the fact that because Mary got her surgery means she missed out in seeing max alive. But it hammer the point that self acceptance is important no matter who you are
as a future mortician who is also grieving, the scene where we see max's corpse is just...beautiful. i can't put it into words. it's just amazing. edit: looking at this now this is a really weird comment but oh well ig
This is one of my top favorite movies of all time. I remember watching this for the first time on Netflix with my dad when I was about 13 or 14 thinking it was a family movie, and being in complete and utter shock and horror but overcome with how beautiful it was. It's real. This is what real lives are like.
I was like, "Steve, please. I watched My Little Pony Friendship is Magic, Mickey Mouse, and other cartoon shows that are for kids, even though I'm an young adult. Don't judge us."
I. LOVE. THIS. MOVIE!!! 😃 When I first discovered it and learned that Max is an Aspie like me, I was hooked. I'm an Aspie myself and there were so many traits that I could relate to with Max. Not only that, it gave a simple yet great explanation about Asperger's Syndrome. Like in a way everyone can understand. The friendship between Mary and Max was so sweet and I welled up at the end. Especially when you see he died smiling as he read every single letter she sent.
You should review "leafie a hen into the wild " there's plenty of gore and death or if you want to see a blood bath reveiw justice league dark apocalypse war
@Tristen Allen Duuude I remember that movie! When my sister and I were little we fell asleep and we left the TV was on. I woke up when it was really late and I saw that movie so I watched it! It was years ago and I thought it was a dream but I looked it up and found it!
Oh I watched that one, I.... actually thought it was a beautiful story about a mother's love 😅.... I remember (no spoils) the ending was bittersweet but I can't remember a WHOLE lot in the realm of very dark, am I remembering incorrectly?
As someone with Asbergers, I am really glad they managed to display it with such honesty and accuracy. I don't feel like my condition is something that should be cured. I do recognise the issues I have, but I also am glad about the skills it gives me. I loved the film, and it legitimately made me cry and smile.
This is legitimately one of my favourite films ever, I had to write a paper on this for my animation history class before. I recall how the director took inspiration when making characters from a photographer who would photograph the “rejects” of society such as old people and drag queens to name a few (I vaguely recall seeing a photograph of a drag queen that looks very much like the inspiration of Mary’s mum) It adds to the whole imperfection theme really nicely I think. If I can remember the name of the photographer I’ll edit it in. Edit: Found her! Diane Arbus. Look up her works if you’re curious.
That's actually pretty amazing when you think about it. My first year of college I was in school for social work and I learned of the indifference to legitimate hatred people feel for the homeless population, even if it's only because of mental health, but if it is because of addiction issues people automatically assume they deserve any and all traumas they encounter on the street as karmic justice, absolutely horrible. The people on the fringes of society are the ones most in need of our compassions even if you don't agree with some of their life choices (and not all of them have even MADE those life choices people stereotype them as having done)
Wobbles and Bean I just got my answer, it’s Diane Arbus! It’s hard to find the title of the photograph in particular but I’ve found the one I was referring to (a possible inspiration for Mary’s mum’s model) It should be the very first image dylanmannhazell.blogspot.com/2014/10/diane-arbus.html?m=1
as an autistic person myself, i really appreciate the sympathetic and generally positive portrayal this movie gives to max. his outlook on being autistic is very similar to my own, not seeing it as something "bad" or in need of a cure-- it's what makes me who i am, and i just wouldn't be the same person if that changed. only being diagnosed when i was around 20 myself (i'm only 26 now but still) it was vindicating finally knowing WHAT was going on with me and why i do/feel the things i do, knowing how to take care of myself better and understanding why my mind does these things was incredibly refreshing and made me more confident sorry for such a long, rambling comment haha. this is a fantastic film that gets me very emotional, it's dark but it's not hopeless and that's a rare thing to find. not to mention the visual style is so striking and fun to watch!
As an Autistic person myself, this movie feels so...emotionally connected. Holy crap, this movie. I will add to something with how Max reacted to Mary's book. After all, he clearly stated that he doesn't want to be fixed. So, to him, the book Mary made may have easily been seen as Mary saying that she wanted to fix him, even if he didn't want to be. And, as someone who struggles with their words myself (especially in anger and of frustration), his reaction seems...relatable.
He might have also thought that she was using his friendship with her as a way to get ahead. We know she has good (if misguided) intentions, but if someone I had known for years wrote a clinical study using me as the subject I would be just as outraged and betrayed as he was.
Same thing here! I would’ve felt the same way especially because of me being so emotional and sensitive (probably also due to my Aspergers lol) I would be so frustrated and upset about my self, so I related a whole lot with Max in the movie
"It offers some great dark comedy." *shows Max accidentally blending a fish with a mixer. What do you have against fish??? I still can't get the imagery from Padak out of my head! :(
if you want to see real trauma, that is supposed to be a real children’s movie “Little Wansa” *edit* this series is old, and there are many cartoons and movies and edits, so if you happen to find a non disturbing one today, then you are lucky!
Ginga: Nagareboshi Gin is another anime about dogs, with a lot of violence and sad moments. I went in expecting a cool story about dogs, and it was, but also pretty dark at times. Thanks for making me remember! I think it might also be called Ginga Densetsu Weed? maybe there's two. It's been a while.
Mark23 well, I didn’t want to spoil but SPOILERS, edit* I mean this whole series is very old, so not many people know it, but it’s good ol messed up cartoon that didn’t shy away from showing gore kind of oldschool Wansa is a puppy, prety normal, but he lives a kinda brutal life, there are many movies/ova and series, some are life lessons some are just comedy skits one about his love interest Midori, who grows up on the street with her older brother, she gets taken in by a street vendor but her brother gets left behind, literraly he picks up the cute Midori and kicks off the brother pup, like kicks a puppy! while she is loved he needs to fight for life all the time, she meets him later, and she is all happy but he is all gruff and tuff and all wounded up by life, kicked around and such on the streets, and then when some woman tries abandoning her baby and a pack of street dogs sorrowed her and the baby, the big brother gets shot to death by humans, and Midori says goodbye to his corpse then the love story is cute, Midori becomes a fine young lady, Wansa is in love, but his “hero kind” of a friend falls for her too, so he gets a choice of not pursuing her in order for his friend to confess, but Midori’s owner is moving away and Wansa will never see her again, Wansa’s friend learns that Midori and Wansa do love each-other but Wansa would rather give her up for him, and he literally gets drunk, the bff dog drinks 2 bottles of alcohol and goes on a drunkard sputter calling Wansa a fool haha alcoholism! finally we see Wansa chasing her on train tracks, brutally chasing after the train, the owner lets Midori go on the next station, where Wansa falls down crying he never got to say he loves her, but she appears and its a crying and happy ending then about kids running away from home, some pups and then Wansa’s human friend/owner Kouta get annoyed with their mom’s, and run from home, they go with Wansa since he enjoys living on his own, but after some fun and play the puppies and Kouta get stuck in an abandoned building, the doors get stuck but the puppies Mom’s come to the rescue forcing the door open and crying puppies go home with their moms, like bad ass moms do Kouta stays with Wansa until his mom comes saing “lets go home” he bursts crying and goes home, Wansa stays all alone, wondering how come only he has no mother, he cries remembering her, but makes a vow to find her did you call your mom to say I love you today? then a stray dog barely alive come to the neighborhood, the plot thickens she claims she is Wansa’s mom, but she is so dirty and beat-up Wansa rejects her saying his mom never smelled so bad and pushes away, the dog cries and welp for Wansa to try remembering her, but she looks nothing like he remembers, the dog goes to the river and tries to wash it self clean but the river pulls her away and she is drowning, Wansa and other dogs pull her out, she licks herself clean and asks Wansa to smell her again, we see only a glimps of Wansa’s tears when he whispers “mom” Wansa and mom hug and kiss, all dogs cry all dog cry, and you will too Wansa is happy-and wants his mom to come home with him, as she starts walking she collapses, Kouta finds Wansa and the mom dog, picks her up and runs to the vet, the vet tell his parents that there is nothing to do the dog is dying Wansa overhears, then a nurse screams the dog mom is gone, Kouta wants to look for her but his dad tell him that dogs wander off to die alone dogs search, Wansa finds his dying mom, She calms him saying she wanted him to remember her only as she was, they lay down and hug then we get to see the mom dog struggle to breath, stretch convulse and finally colapse to the ground dead Wansa gets a shock, he screams, pushes her trying to wake her, begs her to not leave him, promises to be good, finally just breakdown and cries while hugging his dead mom Wansa says goodbye to his dead mom and then your childhood is broken also there is a WAR, cats vs dogs, but it’s all fun I mean cancan dogs and cancan cats, you get mind whiplash so if You watched and didn’t see what is wrong, what the heck did you watch?
I remember watching this as a kid with my brother. We thought it was going to be like Wallace and Gromit, but we were vet surprised when it was much darker. We only made it to the part where piranhas but off someone's legs. I will never forget that image, because I was so scared. I'm glad you were able to do a review of this because it brought back some fond memories!
I remember watching this on a whim in the early morning hours and crying myself to sleep after. I was in my late teens but man this movie hit me hard. It's beautiful and while the ending is sad its very..real. sometimes you don't have happy endings, you get bitter sweet ones. It just seemed real and right.
I mean, it was still a happy ending I'd say. It had many depressing and heavy elements but it's all overshadowed by their enduring overwhelming happiness and fulfillment they brought to each others lives. It's a feelgood one for me.
There's a snake in our backyard that's been trying to get us for the last two years.....I think it's because I chopped it's tail off with a rusty old shovel but it's a venomous snake as they say "Survival of the fittest".
Proof that friendships between adults and children exist without any bad and pedophilia like interaction. (I never knew this comment would become so popular and it's one of my stupid ones I wrote while I was half asleep 😶 I guess I tried to be funny, but the reply section is a big war, sad)
@Sevi Playz I have multiple friendships with people of all different ages. Yes, it somehow runs in my family. Usually I've got RUclips (my second fave social media platform besides Facebook), but sometimes, I might write letters to whoever, whether they're young, or old, or even my age.
No it’s not proof, it’s a cartoon. No grown person in their right mind wants to befriend a child just for the sake of being friends. Don’t compare this animation to real life. It’s not impossible, just strange.
Jeez what a negative viewpoint on friendships you don’t have to actively search for a younger/older friend it can be a coincidental Wholesome friendship It’s extremely common for kids who don’t have great role models or any one to look up to in general it doesn’t always have to be viewed as weird or creepy
@@Thevamp1reking If actively seeking ages then yes, big red flag! But friend ships like mutuals on social media can exist without the need of age mentions or any actual real images, not everyone is interested in intimate relationships or needs like that. People can easily bond over hobbies and interests, no matter the age.
Plink like I said before: no grown adult in their right mind wants to befriend a child. They can have the same likes and hobbies but friends is a little weird. Why would you even want to be friends with a grown man or woman if you’re a kid? That’s cartoon logic.people age for different reasons, you should make friends while you’re young and grow old knowing people as friends that are your age. I don’t understand why you think this is normal. They are clearly trying to fuck you! Any grown dude or woman that goes through the effort of trying to be some child’s friends wants something, and that’s your ass. Prove me wrong and go befriend the oldest man you can find and tell me it’s normal. Let me know when you’ve done so and send video proof.
leaves me in tears every time "best friend" "only friend" coming from an individual with few to no friends, I understood how max was feeling in his last moments. Absolutely beautiful film i haven't had one play with heart strings in a while... it's the best kind of film. one grounded within the bounds of reality.
As someone who does have Asperger's it really hit home for me I was diagnosed a bit late in my childhood when I was in fifth grade I always have struggles with regular classes and I didn't know why until I was diagnosed of it people have their advantage and disadvantage but we're all the same in a different way no matter if we have disabilities or not we are all different in a good way so imperfection is perfect in that way
Max's story and his quote on Asperger's hit me right at home. I never felt defective or disabled or diseased. I merely see the world differently, think differently, learn differently than others. Yet, in school, everyone insisted on treating me like a special case, and my home life didn't help me at all either. Even today I still gotta take crap from some people. The portrayal of Max's Asperger's is very accurate. That quirk he does on throwing away discarded cigarette butts? I'm the same with discarded pop can rings. I take them home, cut 'em up and put them in the recycling so no creature on land or sea will ever be caught or choked on them. I'm verrrry picky about what I throw in the garbage, I recycle almost everything I can! And I do get anxiety attacks when my planned routine is disrupted and things go wrong (when that happens I just go home or somewhere private to calm down), just like how Max suddenly got anxious by the unexpected letter from Mary. But thankfully it was a good change for Max to suddenly have a friend to write to. It very much helps us all to have a good friend that make our lives just a little bit better.
I watched this movie waaay back when I didn't know bout my autism and I can identify myself in some of his quirks too. I pick up plastic garbage whenever I see it, can't walk past it without my stomach turning. Have you managed to find a good way dealing with your anxiety attacks? I still find it hard at times, but I created my very own rituals that mean safety and home to me, wherever I am :) I hope you are doing good and wish you the best :)
@Xiaomu K Aspergers alone does not qualify to get paid by the gov in my country, and my country is run by the socialist party half the time and is known for paying you for whatever random reason, so what are you talking about? In my country when Aspergers get the disability card, it is on a low percentage that doesn't give money but has advantages at the hour of finding employment, meaning, you cost less tax for the company. This is done because some of us Aspergers do have problems finding employment, especially we use to fail big time in interviews, so the disability score is given in my country to us simply to offset how bad we do at interviews. Mind you this is not like when someone steals a spot from someone that is more qualified than himself, we do bad at the interview, not at the job itself, this just makes us have an equal opportunity against someone that is equally qualified as us, if for some reason business started to have special interviews for ppl with Asperger that are made to qualify correctly an Asperger, we would not really need the help, but those special interviews are not realistic, especially in small business, so the gov takes the sensible solution, repurposes the system for disabilities to give the company enough fiscal advantages to offset how much we get underestimated in the interview, it is a win-win situation really. Extra: We also get to skip the line in some amusement parks because some of them make all people with the disability card go into the wheelchair waiting queue and that queue is usually empty or just 2 or 3 ppl, I know it is wrong for me to take advantage of this, but I do it anyway because I rather skip the queue than have the moral high ground :p
My autism doesn't make me feel disabled, just uneducated and slow. And I NOW know (as of last December in my late 20's) that it's the main source of my communication problems and why I keep ending up having friends yelling at me for being selfish and saying the wrong things. Apparently I just "want things" when I talk to people. Is it wrong to want A CONVERSATION?? ~ My actual physical disability is what makes me feel disabled.
Aspergers is both a blessing and a curse. It makes me feel both superior and inferior to others at the same time. But I would never want it taken away.
Just a few corrections: Philip Hoffman is better known by his full name-Philip Seymour Hoffman. 2, Toni Colette plays the older Mary. The voice actress who played young Mary from the excerpt you gave is Bethany Whitmore, who was 9 at the time.
as someone with autism i love how the movie reflects on how people treat the spectrum like a disease that needs to be cured but its not. we want acceptance not cures
I remember when I was a kid, I came across my dad watching this, and I was actually terrified of Max and I had nightmares from seeing some clips from this film. But now that I found this review and know the whole story of the film. I find this film very upsetting, but very well done.
JackOfen I don’t think Max is a bad person, I actually liked his character after learning the story but I was a naive kid at the time and stop motion movies used to freak me out and I also didn’t know the story line back then either
JackOfen I think telling someone that they judge by looks as a kid in this case is a bit harsh. The colors used in Max’s part of the film can totally be felt as sad, lonely, and cold. Those are scary things for kids. There’s a reason my kids use every freaking crayon in the box on every drawing, because (at least to my 5 and 7 year old) color is happy. Black and white are the color of shadows cast by a night light were the monsters hide in their rooms at bedtime. I do agree though that it is important to show kids that things can and should be interpreted differently. Neon colored scenes can be just as scary as black and white ones.
He a little confused about cigarette butts but he got the right idea.
The idea of fish getting addicted to smoking is still a hilarious mental image. Just imagine like a puffer fish puffing up when inhaling and as he exhales and shrinks smoke comes out.
The Spirit is there
I mean, his heart was in the right place atleast.
@@crimsondynamo615 Im going to hell for laughing at that.
hey I mean monkeys actually do smoke cigarette butts if they're still lit so yeah he was almost right
Max: “She shot herself with her uncle’s gun when I was six.”
YT: “Commercial. Now.”
me: hey youtube, vibe check
*i slam youtube through a couple buildings*
Use adblocker
Laughs in Adblocker
That happened to me too!
Laughs in YT app that doesn’t play mid rolls
I’m pretty sure the pom-pom that Mary gives Max being one of the only things in colour represents how she brings some colour to and life to his dark grey life
But the lady's lipstick was red
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I think color represents purpose. The mime has an orange scarf showing that their profession is their purpose (since jobs are categorized into 'collars')
so Mary giving him the pom pom gave him his purpose
@@eddierivera5501
so the lipstick being red represents how her purpose has died out
Best bit of the film for me is that anything that either one sends to the other keeps the colour from where it came from. Mary is literally brightening Max’s world, with bee brown letters and parcels allowing him some relief from his monotonous greyscale life, while Max is presenting Mary with his own unique take on his world, while he fosters her curiosity and her passion for knowledge. I must admit, as many times as I have seen this film, I didn’t even notice the Mime’s scarf being orange, but I love how the pom-pom and the fire from the Statue of Liberty are distinct and noticeable, almost as if they gain that colour from the feelings of people. Mary sends the pom-pom, with the hope of making a friend. People see the Statue of Liberty everyday, each able to project their own feelings and aspirations on it. Oven Marjorie Buttersworth uses her lipstick to convey her not so subtle motives. Final bit, before this becomes an essay. In the entirety of the film, there are no straight lines. Everything is twisted and ever so slightly wonky, which is such a refreshing break from the pristine facade of reality. I really can’t say just how amazing this film is, without writing an essay, but it deserves all the attention and praise that it receives.
ah yes cokmusnism
Do you know how expensive it is to send a package that size overseas? Max really cares about their friendship.
He did win the lottery. Lol
@@TheOriginalDuckley but he spent it all on chocolate hotdogs
@@ultimatestickbot6946 it's never a bad idea to save
@@WorshipperOfKhone check mate
@@ultimatestickbot6946 actually not true, he spent it on a lifetime supply of chocolate, the entire Noblet collection, and the rest of it I believe he gave to his blind neighbor.
The best quote from this movie is “We don’t get to choose our warts they are a part of us and we have to live with them... we can however choose our friends and i am glad i have chosen you”
My heart.
Still a really good quote uwu
Tear-jerking, so simple and honest words.
@DumFukkJuice agreed
He was saying that the moment I read this comment wtf
Jesus Christ, the ending got me. That genuinely hurt. They didn't get to meet each other in person after all that time. And the letters taped to the ceiling got me a bit choked up.
The ending still makes me shed buckets of tears.
Bruv I actually cried that last line hit way to close to home
fona mcjimmyjimmy it’s a bittersweet ending
Nevermind I just cried
Yup same :(
Her dad had a look on his face when he was working in the tea factory of won't somebody please put me out of my misery. I'll pay you.
You just see him on the side of the road holding a “Shoot me $12” sign
He'll pay in tea
Doomer
Oof
why are we still here? just to suffer??
God, that ending hurt..
One thing that's interesting to me is how Max died smiling looking at the letters Mary sent him. Mary, who tried to kill herself, sits beside his body, smiling at the mementos of their friendship. She holds her baby, who survived Mary's suicide attempts, and appears to be fine and healthy. It feels like... I don't know. Someone who died, someone who tried to die, and someone who was full of life.
When I saw him looking up smiling.. that broke me. 😭
This scene brought me to tears.... so sad.... and beautyfull...
me too 😭😭😭😭😭@@cucadefrijoles735
Nobody cares
@@ahmedtta3914who pissed in your cornflakes man
yo real talk tho Mary's kid survived her heavily drinking and an attempted overdose?
*wha.*
Movie logic
There’s no way that kids gonna live a normal life after all that shit
Hes just built different
@@JavierEscuella1911 BRAIN DRAIN
miracles happen
“Her father spends most of her time stuffing dead birds.”
*NORMAN?!*
Taxidermy is more of a lifestyle than a hobby.
A hobby is supposed to pass the time, not fill it.
@Abrilla 2 M blood mother, blood!
* watches helplessly as Marion ruins her chance with (arguably) the perfect man *
chuck testa has entered the chat.
“Because fish smoke them and become nicotine dependent” I died
Well with the existence of Spongebob Squarepants anything is possible! :D
‘I am of course joking, as fish do not have pockets to carry lighters.’
@@iantophernicus6042
Not yet.
This is big brain comedy.
Your pfp is cursed
16:51 Actually it does have a HUGE impact. When Max wins the lottery, one of the things he buys is the full collection of the Noblit figures. Which he then later sends to Mary to show that he has forgiven her. When Mary was about to hang herself, she gets a knock at her door which turns out to be the neighbor that is delivering the package, and thereby saving her from committing suicide.
evey time people request a movie it's tragic or creepy or gruesome
Perhaps all three, sometimes.
@@Dithrick yeah also that
Well , it's the premise of this channel
@@POTATOEH81 potatoes unite!
I like it
The video: “She shot herself with my uncles gun when I was six”
RUclips: *Immediately cuts to an ad about call of duty*
@Flandre Scarlet mine was the infamous raid shadow legends
@@rageinternet9391 and mine was a Globe Telecoms Ad
Huh guess I've got something in common my Dad shot himself when I was 8
@Jacob Greene who are you wooshing
Mine said “ you know how you don’t miss something until it’s GONE , well it’s time for this drink”☺️
*If I had a 8 year old daughter writing to a 44 year old man and back, I would also freak out*
Ivan Baymar true
Me too!
Although I think an important lesson here would be to keep an open mind and not immediately red flag it as they could end up being best friends for life.
@@scratch2086 ....
@@donovanfox7752 Yes?
“She shot herself in the head with my uncles gun when I was six”
Ad: SWEET TARTS. BE BOTH!
I GOT IT TO LOL
*H A A G E N - D O S S I C E C R E A M*
*No one out pizza's the hut*
JESUS CHRIST IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSON WHO EVER LIVED
I'm not religious that's the ad I got lmao
That "Smiles in British" joke has to be the best thing I've seen all month.
Me too
Same
Glad it wasn't just me! Haha
That's the kind of humor the world seems to be lacking now.
Same
one of my animation teachers was a claymation artist who molded and rigged the characters.
he told us the bubbles in the bath tub scene were created from sex lube
...intresting
I like how THAT'S the thing he thought to share with you guys-
God that is so great. Considering the sense of humor of the director, it doesn't surprise me
i thought it was expanded polystyrene.
@@Gustyrd1 I thought that as well
My parents didn’t realise this wasn’t for kids, I’m now depressed
Wow go to a psychiatrist! Now!
You need to be CURED
Get better ❤
I Hope you get the help you need
I hope you get help
So, are you a wholesome family comedy or a horrific existential tragedy?
Mary & Max: Yes
That's kind of a very Aussie thing though, isn't it? And I'm saying this as a good thing in my book.
The visuals are amazing.
The red.
"Not everything red is important"
But some things are.
Bro why did this man just give a trip report in the comments
Bruh
@@mikmik.__ what? if you don't have an actual response then shut up
@@shockedmusic1 Damn bro, you should take that stick out of your ass. 😳
@@JustAnOrdinaryPolarBear lmao
I would allow my child to have an adult pen pal if i was allowed to read every letter they sent. I think intergenerational friendships and interactions are important but i also recognize the world we live in and if their intentions are pure me reading the letters should be no issue.
I liked this movie quite a bit
I agree. If the adult pen pal's intention is pure then there shouldn't be any problem with the parent proofreading the letters. I also think the kid should be taught briefly about what should or shouldn't be written (private info or something like that) and then given some privacy to write the letters. My mom, if she hadn't flipped at the idea already, would have sat down with me and instruct me what to write and would have drained the fun out of the whole penpals thing.
I had a 20 year old pen pal when I was 9. I was given a quick run through on what not to share and how careful i needed to be, but nothing was ever proof read... And nothing went wrong.
To clarify I'm not gonna read my kids letters necessarily since yeah i would give them the safety run down i meant i would read the incoming adult letters. Make sure they aren't veering into inappropriate territory.
Not really a pen pal but when I was like 12 I used to talk to this 20 something guy on Facebook and we were content creators on a fan page of a show we liked lol
@ when i was a kid i used to go hang out om the porch and talk to my elderly neighbor Delmar. I really enjoyed his company and he enjoyed mine. Kids and adults can definitely have mutually enriching friendships and i am all for intergenerational connecting
I really love Max's philosophy of friendship.
"We need friends because even if we dont accept ourselves because of our flaws, and true friend will accept you despite your flaws."
It's been a while since ive seen the movie, so the quote may be off.
Such an inspiring line, everyone has their quirks and flaws but true friends can look past it and accept you for your flaws and strengths as well ☺️
This movie reminds me of my online pen pal I met when I was 12. Him and I talked daily, played video games together and had a similar friendship like Max and Mary. Unfortunately he passed away 2 weeks ago at the age of 61 from stage 4 liver cancer. Thankfully he got to see pics of my son before he passed unlike Mary as he was born a month before his death. Pen pals truly leave a mark in your life...Mark, you were truly one of a kind.
I hope that you have recovered and that you and your family have a plentiful life
oh GOD, I CANT STOP CRYING
I remember seeing this movie on Netflix before it was removed. As a 12 year old at the time, I was expecting a nice family friendly movie. I finished it, but with a new perspective on animation forever.
Still one of my favorite movies of all time
I have seen the name of the movie on Netflix before but it looked boring so I never watched
@@therunningranger4297 understandable lol
IT WAS ON NETFLIX?? Dang it this would have been great to show my friend.
Its Mitty I used to watch this film on repeat as a kid, this video brought back a lot of emotions gahhh
I watched it and it was happy in my opinion but in a deeper way
19:54 "If there's one thing I don't like about this movie I feel like the scenes about max talking about his life go on for way too long"
As a person with Aspergers, that's one of the biggest and most recognisable symptoms. Not being able to actually know when the other person is bored and just talking until you run out of things to talk about. That's an absolutely phenomenal thing they've done. Made his condition which impairs his ability to talk to others a bad aspect of the writing as it gets boring.
I have ADHD and that's something I tend to do sometimes. I'm not sure if that's a symptom of ADHD or if I just do that.
I also have Aspergers and often times find myself doing this as well. I’ll start a story that I think is super interesting and it ultimately just doesn’t have an ending. My family and friends really don’t enjoy it when I do it but just put up with it.
@@Skia_Woodling I THINK I have Adhd and sometimes I do this a lot too! Like I hang out with my roblox friends a lot and I'm the one to talk the most and have the longest sentences
@@Skia_Woodling l have adhd too and l do that too, but maybe lm just annoying. Idk.
I am guilty of infodumping and it made max more relateable
"We don't get to choose our warts. They are a part of us, and we have to live with them. We can however choose our friends, and I am glad I have chosen you."
;-;
That quote legit made me tear up.
20:00 actually, i think it fits for max's parts to 'drag' a bit. as a person with autism (what aspergers actually is; its an outdated term), we can ramble on for a while about topics that interest us or that we just know a lot about, even if nobody else really cares. i think it makes it more realistic for his character
i also highly appreciate the fact that max doesn't think less of himself for his autism, and doesn't _want_ a "cure". i find it disgusting how popular the idea of autism being treated as a disease is, and it's a nice refresher seeing autistic characters that accept themselves for who they truly are.
I do this sometimes to
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@@pichuna5630 mae W
As another person with autism (I did prefer back when Asperger's was still legitimately used in the books as it was a very specific subset and unfortunately most general people hear autism and immediately think of the "incapable of communication possibly screaming" type as popularized by media), I also was going to comment about how Max's sections dragging felt appropriate as I've certainly caught myself rambling on about subjects longer than most would feel comfortable with
The ending is one of the most painful but most beautiful ending to a movie I’ve seen yet
I agree.
Was that the can of condensed milk next to max?
Noobslayer73 Backup He had died truly happy, having felt his life had been full, and went to the great beyond with little regret on what he had done with his life and how he had given someone else’s life true purpose as well. His life wasn’t perfect, but he still left it his way all the while with a smile...
I never even realised he died while looking at her letters.
My eyes definitely watered.
I can't stop thinking how mary just looks like a female Carl
I CAN'T UNSEE THAT NOW XD
Whos carl
@@SinclairGarcia Carl Wheezer is a character from a Nickelodeon show called "The Adventure of Jimmy Neutron"
Same that was all I could think about until I got used to her design.
@@ValenArtsAnimation thanks for the information
Movie: He gets as many tea bags as he wants.
Steve: ThAtS a GrEaT jOb
SIGN ME UP
im british and i agree with steve
Steve might enjoy Tea, like myself a fellow brit. But nobody's love for tea, exceeds the Spiffing Brit's for Yorkshire Tea.
The Spiffing Brit will be proud, all hail yorkshire tea gold
I want Earl Grey!!!
As an autistic myself, this has to be the best portrayal of autism I've ever seen. This movie finally does what I think most films that try to portray autism don't do. *They actually spoke to a real autistic person about it and for their feedback!* Finally man...
Something major this film does that a lot of other films routinely fail to do is show Max's autistic traits without any sort of judgement. A lot of films try their hardest to romanticize autism in an effort not to offend people, mainly by putting 'comfortable' traits of autism in the spotlight (savant syndrome, quirky use of language, acceptable special interests like trains) and 'uncomfortable' traits out of view (stimming, loneliness.) Other films can go the opposite direction and portray autism as the worst thing that could happen.
In this film, I didn't feel like they were trying to force an opinion on me, mainly because it showed both sides of autism. It wasn't afraid to show the particularly difficult bits (stimming, overstimulation, meltdowns, loneliness, and even difficulty holding a job.) But it also wasn't afraid to show the positive sides SUBTLY...and this is important: they didn't rely on old tropes and stereotypes such as savant syndrome. Max likes solving problems, but he isn't smarter than anyone else. Still, Max's autism helped him in numerous ways, largely in logically analyzing his surroundings rather than having a purely emotional response. As mentioned in the film, Max fulfilled his personal goals and bought what made him happy with his lottery money, instead of seeking out luxuries. He also states early in the film that he quickly moved away from religion because he read books that proved it was illogical. Little things like that guide you to seeing the world as Max does, which is one step at a time, and not largely motivated by goals outside of his reach or interests.
For someone who is diagnosed with Aspergers. I can relate with Max. I don’t feel disabled. I’ve done well in school. Steady relationship. And doing side art work. It sad that some people like my father sees it as a disease. But it’s ok. We live in a society anyway.
"Done well in school" "steady relationship"
Then you are of the small minority doing WAY more fortunate then most, no offense.
As someone diagnosed with BOTH aspergers, ADHD, and taurrets, my life was and has been hell for the longest time.
@@zionthedragon8866 just two sides of the same coin, its perspective.
@@zionthedragon8866 damn, all three at once
@@pokaay3163 yep.
You're really lucky. I have aspergers and dyscalculia, failed 4th grade.
Let's just clap for the video's beginning, that dude actually roasted Mary's mother-
Yep, fucking respect that guy so much
Dayyyyyum u right
that wasn't a roast that was taking a high powered flamethrower with rocket fuel on burnt trash
0:00 I cannot stop laughing at that scene
Sure Mrs. Dinkle Hop in!
I watched this movie when i was 14 with my werid, artsy aunt and boy it broke me. I had terrible depression and was super suicidal and this movie just reaffirmed to me that the world was a dark place and that the good things that happen are dark too. Now i'm 25 and i wished i watched it when i was in a better head-space cos i definitely got the wrong impression. It's a really beautiful movie and even though it negativity impacted me when i first saw it, i never forgot it and sometimes randomly remember it and look back at it fondly.
My brother is autistic and it was nice to see Max say he liked being an 'aspie' and didn't want a cure - because i love my brother and he would lose his entire self if somebody could take his autism away. god now i wanna watch this movie again in a new light...
Same for me......not the whole deppresion and suicidal thing but watching this movie when i was younger left a bad taste in my mouth.
I remember the nurses putting this on for us three years ago at the psych ward (suicide attempts, you know how it is lol)! I was 15 at the time and there were a lot of us with Asperger's or autism (I personally have ADHD but you know...they overlap) and interest in psychology. As someone who wants to be a psychologist with a specialisation in psychopathology, Max saying that he liked being an aspie made me very happy too. It was nice to see a character not want a cure since that's how they usually portray these kinds of characters and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I understand that some people do want to be "normal" but I also know a lot of people with various conditions and neurotypes who don't want to be "cured." Portraying nearly every character as loathing their existence and desiring a cure not only erases the people who feel okay in their existence and makes them feel bad about themselves, but also sets this weird expectation for completely "normal" people. They can't grasp that I find my existence normal and okay and that I don't want a "cure." They tell me that I should, that it's expected to want one. Even my colourblind grandfather who has never expressed the wish to be able to see colours was shocked when I said that I don't want a cure and tried to convince me that he can cure me, that I can be "normal" and do what others do (what exactly does that mean anyway???).
I just wish the other kids there would have paid attention to the film, I think it's very beautiful even though it made me cry, it was just so sad.
I hope and I wish to support and cherish you to knowing that even upon the darkenss the stars of light can still shine within itself even upon it all..It acn be something that can produce and create determination.
Meaning that even in terrible moments it does not mean it neither continues nor shall get worst
in one way or the other you need both either an anchor or a shaking from people that do appreciate you
so you should not ever harm hurt nor even be feeling guilty of locking away such emotions like that...
Im sorry if it was complicated but know that I am glad of having read this and that I appreciate of yourself
Exact same. I'm 27 and watched it when I was 16 and it seriously fucked me up. My dad had just died two years prior and my brother and I were having trouble coping with our new home environment. Went to visit our artsy cousin and we thought this movie would be interesting and tbh... it even freaked artsy cousin out a bit. We ended up watching Totoro afterwards as a pallet cleanser. My brother was only 10 at the time and even though my family doesnt shy away from tough topics, the suicide scene actually traumatized him. He cant listen to Que Sera Sera anymore. The song was actually ruined for me too but not nearly to the degree it was for him. He has some serious negative connotations with that sing now
Well what is the real world like from your perspectives now?
What view do you give it from what it has given you?
Is it a nice place? Filled with friendly faces and nice hugs?
Or is it simply a dark place where people go to die and simply be forgotten?
I ask because after returning to my crime riddle home town I am constantly trying to reevaluate my comfortable view of this world.
I feel lied to. Betrayed by my own stupidity and naivety. And protected priveledged isolated life style.
I feel confused for how I am supposed to act now in the face of bad moral decisions that I have already begun to commit
And I do not know how to simply act and exist in this world. I do not simply feel carefree anymore. I no longer have good goals to aspire to. But bad opportunitys to reap rewards from.
In short. Life is tough. Boo hoo. I hate that nobody told me it was this way, the way this movie told it's viewers it.
Grow up. Stop crying to strangers online. They don't care .
I loved Max's letter telling Mary about his lotto win, because he treats it as as much an afterthought as the movie does.
My English isn't the best (I'm Italian), but I'll try:
When Max died, I felt so sad. I am an Aspie, and the idea of being alone, and dying alone, scares me. Luckily, Max was happy when he died, because he knew that he had a friend, his only friend....
Also, your reviews are wonderful, I think I'll subscribe.
P.S: 9:36 is my favorite moment.
Your English is just fine my friend, don't worry :)
I also felt for Max. I'm an aspie as well and just the fact that the world _will_ try to cure me, even if I tell them not to, scares, and even enrages me sometimes.
@@merp9610 i'd rather die than live with this curse
Lmao. I think you need to talk with a psychologist. I’m just worried about your safety
@@lmao.3661 wtf
As someone who was diagnosed with Nonverbal Learning Disorder, before everything got new names, Max’s comment about how he feels like there’s nothing wrong with him honestly was refreshing to hear. It’s a nice feeling hearing a fictional character in a movie say they’re like themselves when you can relate to them. It gives me that feeling too. Regardless, another wonderful video and review Steve!
As an Aspie myself, I 100% agree.
Nonverbal?
So, you can’t speak?
Or were you diagnosed and are now able to speak?
I can speak, always could, when i was diagnosed my symptoms best fit into NVLD but it wasn't recognized by the national medical boards of my country so I instead given an Asperger's Diagnosis
I am an aspie and I get harassed by others for my autism.
@@spartangoku7610 no, it's called nonverbal learning disability because your verbal skills are average or in most cases above average, but you have trouble with non verbal tasks, like reading body language
“I worked for the army, they said they wanted to know my affiliations, so I showed them my science fiction club card, they said they didn’t need that, but disbanded me anyways, sometimes I just don’t understand it. Anyways I was a Communist for a few years”
This is one of the first movies where everything sort of worked for me. Generally when I watch a movie there’s a joke that doesn’t land, or a emotional moment that doesn’t hit as strong as it should. It didn’t really happen here. I think this will be up there as one of my favorite movies even though I just saw it for the first time today, mainly because I haven’t seen a movie that made me both laugh, cry, and leave with a strong message like that before.
The whole story might be dark but it’s so sweet. This story isn’t so bad just didn’t know it was critically acclaimed.
That's likely because of the fact that despite everyboy absolutely loving the film (and deservedly so, it's a masterpiece in my opinion), it didn't do very well at all. In fact, I think they made quite a big loss. It's what happens when a movie this labor-intensive is barely advertised.
*"I do not feel disabled,defective or a need to be cured,I like being an aspie"*
God damn! That quote is amazing!
i have asperger sindrome myself, and watchng that movie some years ago helped me accept that aspect of my mind
I’d so wear a shirt that has that on it, wearing it with pride
I wasn't sure what aspie meant until now! I just looked it up
I love that quote!
I really relate
Steve: “What kind of grown adult still watches children’s cartoons?”
Me: *Regret*
Me: (Innocent whistle)
why would you regret something that makes you happy? :)
[literally reviews children's cartoons]
Ok Buddy,
EVERYONE, THATS NOT ILLEGAL, PEOPLE SEES THE SIMPSON
Me: (Actually can't go a day without watching a kids cartoon)
As someone who is Autistic and is constantly told how unfortunately that is, I cried during this film. I related too hard to Max and it was so refreshing.
Oh well. At least the people who say it’s unfortunate are still good. Compliments or sympathy can work the same way as insults
"Butts are bad, because they wash out to sea and fish smoke them, and they become nicotine dependant." Best line ever
9 and 5 from the movie "9" is also a tragic tale of friendship.
I think their friendship was shown a bit better in the 2005 short film that the movie is based on
YES I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE AHHHHHHH
I love that one
The new version was really....really not that good
@@RubleInnawoods you mean the 2009 film?
I think that Max's fatness actually adds to his story. Like with his Asperger, it is considered an unacceptable part of himself. It is something that needs to be gotten rid of. At the beginning he's being treated for his Asperger *and* fatness. At the end those are the parts of him that the newspaper notes and mocks him for. Like the birthmark, these are things that set them apart for ridicule, and that they have to accept within themselves.
There is no cure for Asperger's because it is the wiring in our brain we can't go and fix that all because if you take that away from that person then who are they is the big question
True, but one of these things can change and the other cannot.
@@Brotherofthe4thCompany same thing my comrade.
It's so sad how people laugh at others misfortunes, but it is satisfying when karma comes to bite them in the butt.
@James Furey I think you're conflating Autism and disability. There are autistic people who are disabled in the way that you described and there are also autistic people who are not disabled at all. There are non-autistic people who are disabled in the way you described. They are just two different things. Autistic people just engage with the world in a slightly different way than neurotypical people do.
"What kind of grown adult still watches kids cartoons?"
No worries. Walter Disney once put it best: "You're dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway." So it's official. The one who made animation big believes animation is for everyone. You're good.
This is bittersweet because Disney took a path opposing this quote.
@@q.mercury.q8659 Not really. Animations organized by Walt Disney had adult references and humor in them as well. In fact, Dumbo and Snow White were HUGELY successful among ADULT audiences just as much as kids (adult humor not always necessarily meaning bad or inappropriate for kids, but rather things adults would find funny that kids might not if you explained it to them because... well, they're not adults). Later Disney movies kept this up, including Aladdin where the Genie transforms into characters children wouldn't recognize and makes references to things like Shakespeare ("et tu Brute?") that kids wouldn't get--but that were funny for adults. In addition to animation, Walt Disney (toward the end of his life) started moving toward live action films like Treasure Island and such, leaving the animation to others and only overseeing them for content quality. He created Disneyland with the hopes that people could be just kids (even if grown up ones) and became upset when Disneyland became too commercial with hotels and advertisements in the park. So, he tried to make Disney World where he would own all the land around the park so people could totally immerse themselves in the theme park without alcohol advertisements and things like commercial hotels in sight. But, he passed away before the park was complete. He really was a kid inside and out (and even had a large toy train around his house that he would ride, because--why not?). He lived and meant it. We really are just kids grown up.
@@iamSketchH Actually, Disney World was originally called EPCOT. It was more of a social experiment akin to something like Rapture or a Vault Tec experiment. It was supposedly going to give you a job, and you would have enough money to pay for rent, food, and water. In exchange you were given an Apartment and the top of the line technology. Public Transportation would be used with a people mover, a giant train that would house the city's residents and it would be free. Honestly am curious to see how a city like that would turn out.
*Walt Disney
Back then his best buddies were also producing adult cartoons. Damn right he was enjoying it lol
14:47
Honestly when I saw the ending I just started crying for Mary cause imagine writing to someone that you don’t know personally for a long time and when you can finally see them in person they end up passing away before they get to see you is just sad and I wanna bet that if Max didn’t pass away, I bet he would of been very happy to see Mary for the first time with her child.
Don't forget that the neighbor who gave her the box had a phobia of going outside and she earned money by giving him his mail. If he hadn't braved going outside, she probably wouldn't be alive
He had homophobia
@@barabongosindare1275 all the great ones have
I just had a breakdown from a summary of this movie, I can't even imagine what I would be like if I actually watched the movie.
You would bawl your eyes out
Same here
Movies don't tend to get to me but this is one of the most depressing yet beautiful movies I've ever watched
I watched it a few years ago when it was still on Netflix because It was recommend in a list of "movies on Netflix not enough people know about but are actually really good" types of things. Was drawn to it for the claymation format which I'm partial to but ended up really liking the story. I didn't think it was TOO sad personally but I did get a tad emotional here and there. Depends how sensitive you are maybe. Maybe if you liked the summary you'd actually really like it who knows 🤷♀️ Edit: it does have it's dark moments but imo it's definitely not as dark as some of the other movies he's reviewed. It actually has a quit beautiful message about friendship and human connections and the dark themes of it are used to futher underscore that point, it's not without purpose or for shock value. Mary is a stand-in for a lot of us who experience abuse, neglect or trauma in general and the human spirits ability to carry on and heal :)
I watched it on Netflix when it was on there and damn I felt sad for days
"I do not feel disabled,defective or a need to be cured,I like being an aspie" as someone with autism, this quote really touched my heart. I feel like this is such an importand message that Aspies rearly ever get to hear. After a life of people trying to cure or heal me, this is such an importand message. People with autism dont need a cure, all we need is an accepting society
Well said my friend well said
One of my friends is autistic and hes super cool ngl
I don’t know what to say in response. But I wanted to comment so hopefully your comment gets a boost and more people see it.
Okay...this is a little random, but hear me out. My name’s Kameko and this is literally the first time in my life that I’ve EVER seen someone with the same name as me. Also, I 100% agree with you on society. People with mental imperfections don’t need to constantly be reminded or treated like they’re wrong. Society should be more accepting.
I don't know if I'm autistic or not but I'm an outcast and seen a lots of people said that you have to changed yourself, dress better, bla bla bla. F**k that. If I have to changed from who I am just to fits in with dumb people then I prefer to be alone. I wants people to accept me not accept fake me.
"You are my best friend. You are my only friend" always obliterates me and leaves me weeping God I love this heartbreaking amazing movie
10:20 Speaking as an autistic person myself, I agree with Max. I don't believe people like us are necessarily disabled, we just view the world in a different way.2
im undiagnosed but Im certain I could be placed somewhere on the spectrum based on my experiences, never having friends and not really understanding why people never really invited me to their friendgroups, and just the way I feel about life in general. Personally autistic people could be considered More efficient humans.
Here here aspies 4 life!
yes
Me 2
I'm close with multiple autistic people, and they're all great. One of them I was buddies with for years before she was diagnosed. The fact that some people see it as bad makes me upset.
I love how this film makes out neurodiversity such as asperger’s to be an aspect of one’s unique character and personality rather than a disability
It's not unique if other people have it
@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 not everyone that has aspergers is gonna have the same personality lmao
@@CartoDarko and not all traits of aspergers are the same from asperger to asperger
some vary in intensity and amounts
@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 They didn't say aspergers was unique. They said "such as apserger's to be an ASPECT of one's unique character". So as a part of somebody's personality and character, which IS unique, at least in the individual nuances.
@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 I’m on the spectrum, and I can confidently say that this statement makes you out to be a huge dick. And I’m not talking about the body part.
I remember watching this movie in high school after being highly recommended to me by a film fanatic classmate. He didn't say anything except it was a story about pen pals. I only watched this once but it is a film that I couldn't forget, especially since it is so relatable even today. It made me cried a lot and I admit, this review made me cry again. Mary and Max had an impact to me. This film, is a reminder to me to appreciate life.
I realy like this movie. Bitter and sweet just my style
I can relate. My sister's friend pretty much pushed the DVD to our hands and told us to watch it. Well, we did and it stuck with me forever. I was diagnosed with autism years later and remembering Mary & Max still makes me feel good about myself. Warts and all!
I cried for ten solid minutes through this review... Jesus, I couldn't keep it together. I wanted to watch this a few years back but now I realize I couldn't endure the film. What a tug upon the ol heart strings.
the voice actress of the little girl is Muriel from Muriel’s Weddinf
*g
@@izaakdukes3286 nice
It's Toni Collette from Hereditary, Little Miss Sunshine, The Sixth Sense, and About a Boy.
Heard of neither
Man lived off chocolate hotdogs and condensed milk for 50 years....this is what happened to his heart.
Try to watch some real life "lower classes" British doco in which mothers look surprisingly like Mary's mother and children get KFC for dinner every day..
He only started the condensed milk after Mary suggested it
Funny. In South Park when Stan shit in the urinal, Mr. Mackey referred to it as a "chocolate hotdog"!
He had cacaoemia, cacao being chocolate and emia being presence in blood.
I watched this when I was 6 because my aunt though it was for kids. Still traumatized lol
_oh no_
We all have movies like that from our childhoods 🤣🤣🤣 my dad: "hmmm... I guess this ISN'T a family friendly movie eh? Sorry kids 🙃" *insert literally any 80s super macho action film my dad saw in college here*
People really should stop thinking that everything animated is for kids.
@@gracehaven5459 80s action films where a joy to watch. Try Invaders from Mars & Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors, chosen by parent's of neglected kids...but the worst was watching Doctor Who Planet of the Spiders.
So that means you were born in '03
What i love is how as mary starts off cheery and innocent, and max is stressed and anxious,
And then max becomes happier and mary becomes stressed and awful.
Even after that Mary becomes happy again, and max dies happy.
Resulting in a beautiful ending.
20:00 If Max's talking had been cut down, it would have seriously disrupted a key part of his character. Autistic people tend to ramble at length when you get us talking about our lives or the things we love. Many of us are detail-oriented people and we like to be as informative as possible. Even in this comment, you can see that I tend to write entire paragraphs instead of being concise. Max is a spectacular representation and the fact his lack of filter shows that the creator of the film truly understood how to write an autistic character.
This was an awesome video but Max being wordy was *not* a negative. That's how many real life autistic people are.
I myself am on the Autism Spectrum. I don't have Autism down right but I have some. I have noticed that I tend to ramble on when talking. Like I'll be talking to my friends about my D&D campaigns and I'll end up telling them about the entire session when I originally just wanted to tell them about one specific moment
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I’m a rambler too. Lol
I have many friends who have autism, one moment we are yelling at vr ducks, the next is why we refer to the earth as a gender and what would refer it too.
My friend and neighbor Jim is autistic though I don't believe he has Asbergers. He uses to work as on aircraft electronics systems when he was in the air force. If you've ever heard of the "Wild Weasels" that is the unit he was apart of. Then he worked for NASA as a contractor and certain US intelligence agencies as well. One day, when he was having a pretty rough morning he said to me, "it's just so frustrating that I know how to operate, disassemble, repair, and reassemble multi million dollar state of the art electronic systems, but it takes me over an hour to dress myself!"
"Butts wash out the sea and the fish smoke them" he's a little confused, but he has the right idea
I fucking love Mary’s little face in this movie lol and the way she eats crack me up, such a cute and innocent little clay model
Right when Max said “She shot herself with her Uncle’s gun when I was six” right after the gunshot, I got and ad and it said “LOL, Surprise!” It got me laughing for a minute straight
Holy crap
Sometimes the algorithm can be a genius at comedic timing.
I got a Pizza Hut ad immediately after Max’s mom died
*gunshot*
_NO ONE OUT-PIZZAS THE HUT_
@@90139 nobody, and i repeat, absolutely fucking nobody, can out-pizza the hut, any whom attempt to will pay the price.
@@carlwheezerofsouls3273 but I know someone who can and that is Pizza Hut themselves
*W O R K O U T*
Damn Pizza Hut have some respect
I'm going to hell for laughing
I learned about this movie from the Asperger's scene (where Max is talking about his inability to read emotion and such. It was such a great summary of Asperger's and really got the point across. I never watched the actual movie (I didn't know it was a movie), but god if the scene near the end of the review where Mary visits him didn't fucking hit me like a train
Yeah I found the video the exact same way and then had the same reaction when I found the ending! Cool
) ? sry i (k)now no one cares
@@jordantasevski2993 and yet you commented anyway
Omg I teared up in this video without even watching the full film. That ending of Max looking up the ceiling and understanding why he looked up.
The constant quantifying, taking of things too literally, enjoyment of childish things, inability to recognize emotions or put put emotions into words, and the getting frustrated at the world for thinking Asperger's is something that needs to be cured hits waaaaaaaay to close to home
Yep, me too
If I may change the subject for a little bit, I’ve been trying to find whatever series it is that that logo of yours came from for a long time now.
Would you please tell me where it came from?
It’s from an old LEGO theme called Blacktron
L
*Thank you my man!*
I used to have almost all the sets.
Now I think they’re in storage.
But the name slipped from me so it was a hard time looking it up!
I used to have these as a kid, but I seem to have grown out of them. Is that even possible?
I hate the fact that because Mary got her surgery means she missed out in seeing max alive. But it hammer the point that self acceptance is important no matter who you are
as a future mortician who is also grieving, the scene where we see max's corpse is just...beautiful. i can't put it into words. it's just amazing.
edit: looking at this now this is a really weird comment but oh well ig
You don't play AC/DC while you're working right? Would be super awkward if a client walked in on you singing Hell Ain't A Bad Place To Be.
@@Roflcrabs LMAO! This is wonderfully dark. Bloody excellent.
Get your job yet
@@scoobydoingyourmum7899 not yet i've just turned 14 now lmao
@@zunshinegirl Happy late birthday...?
This is one of my top favorite movies of all time. I remember watching this for the first time on Netflix with my dad when I was about 13 or 14 thinking it was a family movie, and being in complete and utter shock and horror but overcome with how beautiful it was. It's real. This is what real lives are like.
Steve:"As a British person that job sounds amazing."
Bengal: *glares at Steve*
They should be glad we saved them from the Japanese.
Obviously Bengal just loves tea even more.
@@nedsteven4622 tea is from china that was then imported to india.
“What kind of adult watched children cartoons?”
300k people: BOI IF U DONT
I was like, "Steve, please. I watched My Little Pony Friendship is Magic, Mickey Mouse, and other cartoon shows that are for kids, even though I'm an young adult. Don't judge us."
Mickey mouse clubhouse is the shit dude
@@oaksynia7353 yeah, it made me learn all the colors of the rainbow with their little song
"The dad likes to taxidermy birds as a hobby"
'sees mary's bird friend'
*oh no*
*Hyperventilates in Australian*
Uhhhh he stuffs DEAD birds?
I. LOVE. THIS. MOVIE!!! 😃 When I first discovered it and learned that Max is an Aspie like me, I was hooked. I'm an Aspie myself and there were so many traits that I could relate to with Max. Not only that, it gave a simple yet great explanation about Asperger's Syndrome. Like in a way everyone can understand. The friendship between Mary and Max was so sweet and I welled up at the end. Especially when you see he died smiling as he read every single letter she sent.
You should review "leafie a hen into the wild " there's plenty of gore and death or if you want to see a blood bath reveiw justice league dark apocalypse war
@Tristen Allen Duuude I remember that movie! When my sister and I were little we fell asleep and we left the TV was on. I woke up when it was really late and I saw that movie so I watched it! It was years ago and I thought it was a dream but I looked it up and found it!
I 100% agree!! I was asking for him review that movie on the last video he reviewed! That movie hits me hard in the ending...
Oh I watched that one, I.... actually thought it was a beautiful story about a mother's love 😅.... I remember (no spoils) the ending was bittersweet but I can't remember a WHOLE lot in the realm of very dark, am I remembering incorrectly?
He needs the original ending and not the cut version of Leafie.
YESSS
As someone with Asbergers, I am really glad they managed to display it with such honesty and accuracy. I don't feel like my condition is something that should be cured. I do recognise the issues I have, but I also am glad about the skills it gives me. I loved the film, and it legitimately made me cry and smile.
This is legitimately one of my favourite films ever, I had to write a paper on this for my animation history class before.
I recall how the director took inspiration when making characters from a photographer who would photograph the “rejects” of society such as old people and drag queens to name a few (I vaguely recall seeing a photograph of a drag queen that looks very much like the inspiration of Mary’s mum) It adds to the whole imperfection theme really nicely I think. If I can remember the name of the photographer I’ll edit it in.
Edit: Found her! Diane Arbus. Look up her works if you’re curious.
That's actually pretty amazing when you think about it. My first year of college I was in school for social work and I learned of the indifference to legitimate hatred people feel for the homeless population, even if it's only because of mental health, but if it is because of addiction issues people automatically assume they deserve any and all traumas they encounter on the street as karmic justice, absolutely horrible. The people on the fringes of society are the ones most in need of our compassions even if you don't agree with some of their life choices (and not all of them have even MADE those life choices people stereotype them as having done)
I'd love to see those photos ❤
Wobbles and Bean I just got my answer, it’s Diane Arbus! It’s hard to find the title of the photograph in particular but I’ve found the one I was referring to (a possible inspiration for Mary’s mum’s model)
It should be the very first image dylanmannhazell.blogspot.com/2014/10/diane-arbus.html?m=1
as an autistic person myself, i really appreciate the sympathetic and generally positive portrayal this movie gives to max. his outlook on being autistic is very similar to my own, not seeing it as something "bad" or in need of a cure-- it's what makes me who i am, and i just wouldn't be the same person if that changed. only being diagnosed when i was around 20 myself (i'm only 26 now but still) it was vindicating finally knowing WHAT was going on with me and why i do/feel the things i do, knowing how to take care of myself better and understanding why my mind does these things was incredibly refreshing and made me more confident
sorry for such a long, rambling comment haha. this is a fantastic film that gets me very emotional, it's dark but it's not hopeless and that's a rare thing to find. not to mention the visual style is so striking and fun to watch!
As an Autistic person myself, this movie feels so...emotionally connected.
Holy crap, this movie.
I will add to something with how Max reacted to Mary's book. After all, he clearly stated that he doesn't want to be fixed. So, to him, the book Mary made may have easily been seen as Mary saying that she wanted to fix him, even if he didn't want to be. And, as someone who struggles with their words myself (especially in anger and of frustration), his reaction seems...relatable.
He might have also thought that she was using his friendship with her as a way to get ahead. We know she has good (if misguided) intentions, but if someone I had known for years wrote a clinical study using me as the subject I would be just as outraged and betrayed as he was.
Same thing here! I would’ve felt the same way especially because of me being so emotional and sensitive (probably also due to my Aspergers lol) I would be so frustrated and upset about my self, so I related a whole lot with Max in the movie
"It offers some great dark comedy."
*shows Max accidentally blending a fish with a mixer.
What do you have against fish??? I still can't get the imagery from Padak out of my head! :(
"Help me..
Hhelpp mmee..."
@@rotciv1492 Exactly! I know how to say help me in Korean now though, so I guess that's something. Lol
@@reizak8966 Yeah... I told myself that I hate that video. But I've watched it 4 times already.
if you want to see real trauma, that is supposed to be a real children’s movie
“Little Wansa”
*edit*
this series is old, and there are many cartoons and movies and edits, so if you happen to find a non disturbing one today, then you are lucky!
Wansa Kun. Created by Tezuka, the man behind Astro Boy. Made for the Japanese market. Stupendous!
@@SlapstickGenius23 yup, the tv series may not be available, but the movie did cross out on VHS
I just saw it and didnt find anything disturbing, what is your point
Ginga: Nagareboshi Gin is another anime about dogs, with a lot of violence and sad moments. I went in expecting a cool story about dogs, and it was, but also pretty dark at times. Thanks for making me remember! I think it might also be called Ginga Densetsu Weed? maybe there's two. It's been a while.
Mark23 well, I didn’t want to spoil but
SPOILERS,
edit* I mean this whole series is very old, so not many people know it, but it’s good ol messed up cartoon that didn’t shy away from showing gore kind of oldschool
Wansa is a puppy, prety normal, but he lives a kinda brutal life, there are many movies/ova and series, some are life lessons some are just comedy skits
one about his love interest Midori, who grows up on the street with her older brother, she gets taken in by a street vendor but her brother gets left behind, literraly he picks up the cute Midori and kicks off the brother pup, like kicks a puppy!
while she is loved he needs to fight for life all the time, she meets him later, and she is all happy but he is all gruff and tuff and all wounded up by life, kicked around and such on the streets, and then when some woman tries abandoning her baby and a pack of street dogs sorrowed her and the baby,
the big brother gets shot to death by humans, and Midori says goodbye to his corpse
then the love story is cute,
Midori becomes a fine young lady, Wansa is in love, but his “hero kind” of a friend falls for her too, so he gets a choice of not pursuing her in order for his friend to confess, but Midori’s owner is moving away and Wansa will never see her again, Wansa’s friend learns that Midori and Wansa do love each-other but Wansa would rather give her up for him, and he literally gets drunk, the bff dog drinks 2 bottles of alcohol and goes on a drunkard sputter calling Wansa a fool
haha alcoholism!
finally we see Wansa chasing her on train tracks, brutally chasing after the train, the owner lets Midori go on the next station, where Wansa falls down crying he never got to say he loves her, but she appears and its a crying and happy ending
then about kids running away from home,
some pups and then Wansa’s human friend/owner Kouta get annoyed with their mom’s, and run from home, they go with Wansa since he enjoys living on his own, but after some fun and play the puppies and Kouta get stuck in an abandoned building, the doors get stuck but the puppies Mom’s come to the rescue forcing the door open and crying puppies go home with their moms, like bad ass moms do
Kouta stays with Wansa until his mom comes saing “lets go home” he bursts crying and goes home,
Wansa stays all alone, wondering how come only he has no mother, he cries remembering her, but makes a vow to find her
did you call your mom to say I love you today?
then a stray dog barely alive come to the neighborhood, the plot thickens
she claims she is Wansa’s mom, but she is so dirty and beat-up Wansa rejects her saying his mom never smelled so bad and pushes away, the dog cries and welp for Wansa to try remembering her, but she looks nothing like he remembers, the dog goes to the river and tries to wash it self clean but the river pulls her away and she is drowning,
Wansa and other dogs pull her out, she licks herself clean and asks Wansa to smell her again,
we see only a glimps of Wansa’s tears when he whispers “mom”
Wansa and mom hug and kiss, all dogs cry
all dog cry, and you will too
Wansa is happy-and wants his mom to come home with him, as she starts walking she collapses,
Kouta finds Wansa and the mom dog, picks her up and runs to the vet, the vet tell his parents that there is nothing to do the dog is dying
Wansa overhears, then a nurse screams the dog mom is gone, Kouta wants to look for her but his dad tell him that dogs wander off to die alone
dogs search, Wansa finds his dying mom,
She calms him saying she wanted him to remember her only as she was, they lay down and hug
then we get to see the mom dog struggle to breath, stretch convulse and finally colapse to the ground dead
Wansa gets a shock, he screams, pushes her trying to wake her, begs her to not leave him, promises to be good, finally just breakdown and cries while hugging his dead mom
Wansa says goodbye to his dead mom
and then your childhood is broken
also there is a WAR, cats vs dogs, but it’s all fun
I mean cancan dogs and cancan cats,
you get mind whiplash
so if You watched and didn’t see what is wrong, what the heck did you watch?
I remember watching this as a kid with my brother. We thought it was going to be like Wallace and Gromit, but we were vet surprised when it was much darker. We only made it to the part where piranhas but off someone's legs. I will never forget that image, because I was so scared. I'm glad you were able to do a review of this because it brought back some fond memories!
I remember watching this on a whim in the early morning hours and crying myself to sleep after. I was in my late teens but man this movie hit me hard. It's beautiful and while the ending is sad its very..real. sometimes you don't have happy endings, you get bitter sweet ones. It just seemed real and right.
dude,
I bawled my eyes out at the ending, so fucking adorable but sad
I mean, it was still a happy ending I'd say. It had many depressing and heavy elements but it's all overshadowed by their enduring overwhelming happiness and fulfillment they brought to each others lives. It's a feelgood one for me.
Steve: It is REALLY dark,
Me: It can’t be-
Steve: Its from Australia.
Me: I stand corrected.
Put me on r/wooosh
@@CodfishsIdeaOutlet sure
There's a snake in our backyard that's been trying to get us for the last two years.....I think it's because I chopped it's tail off with a rusty old shovel but it's a venomous snake as they say "Survival of the fittest".
Considering Mad Max is from Australia, we should be used to some dark stuff but it always hits like a truck
Proof that friendships between adults and children exist without any bad and pedophilia like interaction.
(I never knew this comment would become so popular and it's one of my stupid ones I wrote while I was half asleep 😶 I guess I tried to be funny, but the reply section is a big war, sad)
@Sevi Playz I have multiple friendships with people of all different ages. Yes, it somehow runs in my family. Usually I've got RUclips (my second fave social media platform besides Facebook), but sometimes, I might write letters to whoever, whether they're young, or old, or even my age.
No it’s not proof, it’s a cartoon. No grown person in their right mind wants to befriend a child just for the sake of being friends. Don’t compare this animation to real life.
It’s not impossible, just strange.
Jeez what a negative viewpoint on friendships you don’t have to actively search for a younger/older friend it can be a coincidental Wholesome friendship It’s extremely common for kids who don’t have great role models or any one to look up to in general it doesn’t always have to be viewed as weird or creepy
@@Thevamp1reking If actively seeking ages then yes, big red flag! But friend ships like mutuals on social media can exist without the need of age mentions or any actual real images, not everyone is interested in intimate relationships or needs like that. People can easily bond over hobbies and interests, no matter the age.
Plink like I said before: no grown adult in their right mind wants to befriend a child. They can have the same likes and hobbies but friends is a little weird.
Why would you even want to be friends with a grown man or woman if you’re a kid? That’s cartoon logic.people age for different reasons, you should make friends while you’re young and grow old knowing people as friends that are your age.
I don’t understand why you think this is normal. They are clearly trying to fuck you! Any grown dude or woman that goes through the effort of trying to be some child’s friends wants something, and that’s your ass.
Prove me wrong and go befriend the oldest man you can find and tell me it’s normal. Let me know when you’ve done so and send video proof.
leaves me in tears every time
"best friend" "only friend"
coming from an individual with few to no friends, I understood how max was feeling in his last moments. Absolutely beautiful film i haven't had one play with heart strings in a while... it's the best kind of film. one grounded within the bounds of reality.
As someone who does have Asperger's it really hit home for me I was diagnosed a bit late in my childhood when I was in fifth grade I always have struggles with regular classes and I didn't know why until I was diagnosed of it people have their advantage and disadvantage but we're all the same in a different way no matter if we have disabilities or not we are all different in a good way so imperfection is perfect in that way
I don’t think that aspergers is a learning disability
Ethan Wilde it’s made getting through college near impossible
Max's story and his quote on Asperger's hit me right at home. I never felt defective or disabled or diseased. I merely see the world differently, think differently, learn differently than others. Yet, in school, everyone insisted on treating me like a special case, and my home life didn't help me at all either. Even today I still gotta take crap from some people.
The portrayal of Max's Asperger's is very accurate. That quirk he does on throwing away discarded cigarette butts? I'm the same with discarded pop can rings. I take them home, cut 'em up and put them in the recycling so no creature on land or sea will ever be caught or choked on them. I'm verrrry picky about what I throw in the garbage, I recycle almost everything I can!
And I do get anxiety attacks when my planned routine is disrupted and things go wrong (when that happens I just go home or somewhere private to calm down), just like how Max suddenly got anxious by the unexpected letter from Mary. But thankfully it was a good change for Max to suddenly have a friend to write to. It very much helps us all to have a good friend that make our lives just a little bit better.
I watched this movie waaay back when I didn't know bout my autism and I can identify myself in some of his quirks too. I pick up plastic garbage whenever I see it, can't walk past it without my stomach turning.
Have you managed to find a good way dealing with your anxiety attacks? I still find it hard at times, but I created my very own rituals that mean safety and home to me, wherever I am :) I hope you are doing good and wish you the best :)
@Xiaomu K Aspergers alone does not qualify to get paid by the gov in my country, and my country is run by the socialist party half the time and is known for paying you for whatever random reason, so what are you talking about?
In my country when Aspergers get the disability card, it is on a low percentage that doesn't give money but has advantages at the hour of finding employment, meaning, you cost less tax for the company.
This is done because some of us Aspergers do have problems finding employment, especially we use to fail big time in interviews, so the disability score is given in my country to us simply to offset how bad we do at interviews.
Mind you this is not like when someone steals a spot from someone that is more qualified than himself, we do bad at the interview, not at the job itself, this just makes us have an equal opportunity against someone that is equally qualified as us, if for some reason business started to have special interviews for ppl with Asperger that are made to qualify correctly an Asperger, we would not really need the help, but those special interviews are not realistic, especially in small business, so the gov takes the sensible solution, repurposes the system for disabilities to give the company enough fiscal advantages to offset how much we get underestimated in the interview, it is a win-win situation really.
Extra: We also get to skip the line in some amusement parks because some of them make all people with the disability card go into the wheelchair waiting queue and that queue is usually empty or just 2 or 3 ppl, I know it is wrong for me to take advantage of this, but I do it anyway because I rather skip the queue than have the moral high ground :p
My autism doesn't make me feel disabled, just uneducated and slow. And I NOW know (as of last December in my late 20's) that it's the main source of my communication problems and why I keep ending up having friends yelling at me for being selfish and saying the wrong things.
Apparently I just "want things" when I talk to people.
Is it wrong to want A CONVERSATION??
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My actual physical disability is what makes me feel disabled.
Aspergers is both a blessing and a curse. It makes me feel both superior and inferior to others at the same time. But I would never want it taken away.
As an Aspie myself, hearing Max say he wasn't disabled or defective hit so close to home
I’ve always considered my Autism as an advantage over other people. 😁
6:10 Toni Collette only voices adult Mary, not child Mary
That's right Australian child actress Bethany Whitmore played Mary as a child
"What kind of grown up still watches children cartoons..."
*eyes slowly shift away*
That killed me lol
I laughed at that to lol
Yes
As a 22 year old man who'd prefer cartoons over live-action, it got me deep
@@reysy9766 As I grow older, I admit I'd say the same as you
@@Vinnie0801 now you're just making me feel ancient 😂
Just a few corrections: Philip Hoffman is better known by his full name-Philip Seymour Hoffman. 2, Toni Colette plays the older Mary. The voice actress who played young Mary from the excerpt you gave is Bethany Whitmore, who was 9 at the time.
Thanks, came looking for this comment.
That explains a lot, thank you. I was gonna say, dang, I knew Toni Collette was talented, but 😂
Oh, thanks, haha. I thought: wow, Toni Collette does an amazing child voice! xD
I totally forgot that this movie existed. The memories.
Liar
ANDRADA ... how do you know that she’s a liar? You don’t know this person at all, you can’t talk far them.
as someone with autism i love how the movie reflects on how people treat the spectrum like a disease that needs to be cured but its not. we want acceptance not cures
I remember when I was a kid, I came across my dad watching this, and I was actually terrified of Max and I had nightmares from seeing some clips from this film. But now that I found this review and know the whole story of the film. I find this film very upsetting, but very well done.
Glad to know I wasn't the only one scared of Max.
But Max is such a sweet person. Hope you learned not to judge a person by their looks.
JackOfen I don’t think Max is a bad person, I actually liked his character after learning the story but I was a naive kid at the time and stop motion movies used to freak me out and I also didn’t know the story line back then either
@@JackOfen these days I think he's wonderful.
JackOfen I think telling someone that they judge by looks as a kid in this case is a bit harsh.
The colors used in Max’s part of the film can totally be felt as sad, lonely, and cold. Those are scary things for kids. There’s a reason my kids use every freaking crayon in the box on every drawing, because (at least to my 5 and 7 year old) color is happy. Black and white are the color of shadows cast by a night light were the monsters hide in their rooms at bedtime.
I do agree though that it is important to show kids that things can and should be interpreted differently. Neon colored scenes can be just as scary as black and white ones.
"what kind of adult watches children's cartoons" Oh no it's becoming self aware
Ice King lol
I'll dig a grave
I’ll prepare the grave stone
I want to recommend the film “Leafie: A Hen Into the Wild” it touches on mature topics and it’s a great yet sad movie.
yes please!
Agreed!
Agreed
Just in case if you were wondering, this version of “Que Sera Sera” is by Pink Martini! Their other music is just as amazing! 😊😊
But if the dad gets as many free tea bags as he wants why doesn’t he sell them 🧠
That’s a big thonk
Can’t patent them
“That's a big thonk.” Imagining Bakugou saying this is a struggle, ’cause I don't want to startle my cat by laughing.
Stonks
This is big boy brain idea