burntorangeak that’s awesome! Are there any traditions that are used by Native Americans? That would be an awesome video. I love learning about different groups of people who have beliefs that are different from my own.
I would like to see that they stop using chemicals preserving flesh to body trapping our spirits bc we can’t be traditionally laid out and come back rebirth so become part of earth bc laws etc. Also please educate public 4 native person dying among and against autopsy etc, desecration of our remains but only to wash body contact tribe This is why we chose cremation to not pollute earth those toxic chemicals or be trapped to our preserved flesh
@@emeraldfox7175 Not as of yet. I have a long term goal of writing an illustrated book, chronicling the tradition and interviewing my peers across the state. Maybe someday I'll get the nerve to apply for a grant to do so. I lost some close family this year, so it's a little close to home currently.
@@melissawebbave I lost my father this year during the height of the pandemic. It was a feat to get him put away right. I needed permission from the governor, and he was only allowed five Paul bearers. No embalming, and only an external examination. It was worth the hassle to me.
I learned so much from this respectful presentation. I found it comforting. I want to be buried in a simple pine box with no metal, just like this. Thank you for making this video.
When my best friend passed away, his brother could not function as the loss was too great for him. I was raised Catholic and my best friend was raised Jewish. He was also an extremely talented musician. I respect all Jewish customs and went to the funeral parlor to make arrangements. I had to pick out the casket and such. I was lead to the room where caskets were displayed. I KNOW my friend was a very simple person, so I picked the most simple casket. Then I changed my mind after seeing a plain wooden casket that was painted black. Still simple, but with a touch of flair that he had. On the day of service my best friends family saw what I picked out, and they said it was a perfect choice. We opened the casket and placed his drum sticks (which he plaued so well) and a few other things he loved (Pez candy and a goo-goo cluster) he had over 250 people in attendance and one if the worst things I ever had to do in my life was give a eulogy. About 3/4 of the way through it, I began to break down, but I got through it and stepped down from the podium to a huge round of applause. My friend was the warmest, most generous person you could ever meet. He made freinds where ever he was. His house was like a hotel for everyone. He had two backyard parties every year (memorial and labor day) since there were going to be live bands at these parties (because he loved to play), Since he knew it was going to be noisy, he sent letters to every resident within a 2 block radius to invite them over. On the day of the parties he went door to door to remind them to join. There were 6 grills going at these parties all the time. People brought food, snacks, drinks etc. And even if you didnt bring anything, people would share anything they had with you. Family's with young kids, couples, singles all came. At 11pm he stopped playing music and it was all quiet. My friend didn't have much, but whatever he had, he shared. He lead a simple life full of friends. So the casket I picked out, had to respect his heritage, and get give him a little something extra (the black paint). I go to his grave site very often and always leave some Pez at his foot stone. His brother and I are the best of freinds now.
You acted in the same way as I probably would have in the same situation. I can't say 'good on you' because I don't know enough about the differences in Jewish observances to offer any kind of opinion. I do think you acted with thoughtfulness, grace, respect, and conscience, and for that I congratulate you.
IAM not a Jewish but once attended Jewish funeral and I love the teaching according to pin casket it inspired me and want to learn more in Jewish culture
I am British, living in Northern Ireland, and have a Christian background. I throughly love the 'pine box' concept, and this should be an option in all major world Faiths. I would certainly subscribe! ❤❤❤
I respect the views of Jewish people wishing to be buried in a wooden box. What a waste of a valuable resource from a beautifully crafted wooden casket, for it to decompose at the same rate of decomposition as the cadaver.
When my mother died, I did not have to choose her casket, as I had not had to do when my father died 15 years prior. My parents had already made and paid for their choice, solid oak caskets. My parents, especially my mother, were rock-solid, Bible-believing Christians. What I'll never forget, while tying up loose ends at the funeral home, one of my brothers and I went into the casket "Selection Room." We weren't there to select anything. It was all about our morbid curiosity. My brother, Chris, and I were sauntering around when a funeral home coordinator approached us. We told him we were just "looking around." There was this solid-wood , beautiful casket that caught Chris's and my eye. Its finish was beautiful, but it was so different from the rest. The funeral home employee told us that we were looking at a casket for an Orthodox Jew. It just so happened that my younger brother, Josh, was married to a former Jew. The funeral guy told Chris and me about an Orthodox Jew that was to be buried the very next day, Sunday. Jews will commonly conduct funerals on Sunday, as Sunday is just another day to them. The funeral guy told Chris and me who had died. Both Chris and I knew about to whom he was referring. He also told us that Orthodox Jews MUST be clothed in seamless white linen. His main concern was being able to fit that obese, Orthodox Jew into a 100%, kosher casket. It was a real eye-opener.
Obese bodies are a lot more common now, that's why they make oversized caskets. I wonder if the guy fit LOL. If not, he would have to order another one.
This is beautiful!! I am Catholic and totally agree with this video. The casket will never be seen again. Why are we spending so much on them? We have become obsessed with money and social status in a material world rather than focusing of what's important! An elaborate casket is not going to make me a better person than someone buried in a plain pine box!
I like the thought process of going back to the earth since that is where you came from. I was the tail end of my family. As I child I spent a lot of time in funeral homes saying goodbye to many aunts, uncles, grandparents. Later in my life I worked at a cemetery, which gave me a totally different outlook on death. Taking a body, pickling it, putting good clothes and makeup is silly. Let that person go back from which they came. I've thought for a long time I should build my own box. Just a pine, plywood box.
*Star of David Memorial Chapels:* Thanks very much for the video - this was very interesting! I am a Jew by choice (Orthodox) for 16 years, and I didn't know a lot of this. I only knew about the plain wood casket. Thanks!
Very interesting .. I had no idea. The simple pine box with no metal parts makes so much sense. But what about the cement vaults required in some states?
In the UK I have seen some of my Christian friends buried in a wicker/ willow woven coffin with no metal parts and just lined with a simple un dyed woollen blanket wrapping the body. Is this a acceptable for Jewish burials. A very simple ceremony at the graveside. Also they do not use any preservatives or embalming on the body. I would hope my children will be observant so as I am 75 and ill I want to show by example in my own funeral that tradition and faith can walk hand in hand..
I am Jewish, and the Rabbi was absolutely correct, and I totally agree. When buying a casket; we may see it for only a very brief time then, it gets buried never to be seen again. The respect we owe our deceased family members doesn't lay in the casket or, its cost, it lay in honoring his/her memory.
If they want a coffin which decomposes quickly, they should use the old style particle board. My bathroom vanity cabinet, which looks really beautiful, is swelling up and crumbling all round, as it absorbs water from its environment. One could make a truly ornate and attractive coffin, cheaply, and with the knowledge that it'll be lucky to last a month underground.
Kevin Tersavige we had my Gram in a lined cardboard box. She was being cremated and mom and one aunt decided not to spend too much on the box. My other aunt who is on welfare and is a MASSIVE alcoholic, refused to help pay for anything flipped out that her poor dear mother was in a cardboard box; she wanted my mother to spent $$$ for a casket that was just going to burn up. At one point my Gram banned her alcoholic daughter from Her house because of the drama. The rest of us thought the plain lined box was nice and we filled it with roses, her middle name was Rose and everyone called her Rosie. My Grandpa when he was alive would bring her in a rose from his garden every day during warm weather, and say “a rose for my Rosie”. She looked like she was laying on a bed of Roses by the time we got done putting the flowers around her.
I LEARNED that the Jewish faith believes that YOU DEAD. That’s it. No after life, no hope, “carry her in your bones” we were told by the Rabbi officiating the funeral. But Greg, we get it. The other respondent just got offended. Why? Because maybe, just MAYYYYBE. Jesus is the Son of God, and the Messianic Jews get it after all.
Amen. Yes, the soul has been redeemed, but the body returns to dust from whence it came. Why one might ask? Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven, until the return of Christ we will have a new incorruptible body like unto Christ's own body. Not that old body, but a new incorruptible body fitted for heaven. Then shall we be forever with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
For my last 20 years, as a Joiner, I made coffins in Denmark. We have a strict policy for what materials must be used producing a coffin, paint and ornaments, but we did use metal spikes/clamps besides glue. And the product must be made in a specific and controlled for this purpose, Factory. We also made coffins purely from different types of wood, but - oak made the grave area used, to be rented for 40 years instead of 20, as standard, because mostly a such coffin takes longer to disappear. At a time we made an oak coffin for the Official State Burial of a killed Policeman, during a robbery.
Eileen Meyerhoff No, it is certainly OK to use a pine box. You should consider making it known to relatives and your minister and to purchase one or have one made.
U don't need a casket at all to be buried it's a scam that's been pushed on Americans by the funeral homes,u can be buried straight into the ground, without anything,,in America it's legal to look it up
Well I’m not sure which but I watch lotta RUclips and this was very interesting I am an interior finish carpenter and I can honestly say that workmanship on those caskets or top notch! Each religion has their own beliefs but it was interesting watching this RUclips😊
In the comment above yours a guy named Roy Yung ,kind of has a same story as you on taking care of his friends funeral arrangement and how his friend's mom and dad was happy on how he picked out the right casket and everything he did. I don't know why but I just felt led to share this with you, but you can check out his comment if you want to it's right above yours.
Randy Buchert Thanks! I read the story you mentioned and can attest to the uniqueness of my neighbor-friend. He has a lifelong passion for trains and I learned a thing or two about them including a movie with Burt Lancaster, “The Train.” 👍
My dad had a pine box with blue 💙🔵 casket in the back of the family members trees in FL and buried in St. Joseph Garden cemetery 🪦⚰️ in areas of a maple tree.
I'm not even of the Jewish faith and I have already built my own coffin to be buried in, it's what I want and puts no burden on my family. It is all wood like the Jewish types (I didn't know that was a thing), but is of the classical faceted gothic design like you'd see in a Dracula movie. I agree with the Orthodox concept that there is life after death, and that it is simply ashes-to-ashes and dust-to-dust. We are all dying from the moment we are born, so don't worry on it. Death comes for all.
Having my mom and dad pass a month apart I always think of death right around the corner from me it sucks not knowing what or how you will go really makes you appreciate what they went thru in their life time
My family has a tradition of "second from the bottom". When my wife passed, I was unable to buy as simple a casket as I wanted, since the funeral home conveniently didn't stock it. Since there is never time to order, they get to automatically upsell. That said, I priced out the "simple" ones and they are no longer as inexpensive as they once were. I'd make my own when needed, but newly purchased wood needs to dry so as not to warp... again leading to a time crunch. So we are kinda stuck.
I should preplan I don't want my loved ones to bare the weight of thinking would Steve have liked this? Their minds are already going all over the place along with their heads pounding like a hammer. I'm a modest person I don't need any extravagant send off. A simple service with the genuine hope of an afterlife where I can hug my loved ones that predeceased me. The beautiful irony is that our loss is another's reunion. Take Care everyone.
When I die I want the same casket my uncle is buried in as well as my Gigi and what my grandma and grandpa will be buried in. A beautiful handmade casket made by Trappist monks. That is really inexpensive.
My grandmother always told us she just wanted to a simple pine box. When she died my mother got her a nice looking expensive coffin. My grandmother's wishes were less important than people thinking we were cheap. My grandmother was very thrifty and never ashamed of it.
Did you ever sit at a red light and see a Funeral procession drive by? And say to yourself one day you will be in the back of that hearse? Its a sobering thought.
Not me. They'll put me in the van and turn me into ashes. I hate being stuck in traffic and I'd hate to think that my meat's last interaction with society is to help slow people down while they're trying to commute.
Because just burying corpses in the Earth can lead to widespread disease. Case in point: I'm a US Civil War reenactor [see pic at left] and after the Battle of Gettysburg, there were so many dead men and horses buried across such a wide area that it infected the local water table with disease for months thereafter. The Battle was in July 1863, the efforts to disinter and re-inter the dead inside the National Battlefield Monument began in October and Lincoln attended the consecration of the Monument was that November. Typhus, dysentery and cholera were still ravaging the town as Lincoln was giving the Gettysburg Address. This is why most jurisdictions insist on concrete vaults unless you've been cremated or specifically expressed a Jewish, Hindu, or Muslim faith.
@@carlhicksjr8401 Great post, Carl, but we don't have concrete vaults in the UK and I don't think anyone living near a cemetery has come down with these diseases as a result. Granted, we use coffins here, but I imagine these break down pretty quickly in our cold, damp climate.
@@kernow9324 Well, remember that I'm talking about large numbers of dead buried without coffins concentrated on one water table. Also, as I understand it [and I am no expert by any means], one reason why corpses are embalmed is to help prevent disease by slowing the corruption process. Again, I might be wrong on that one.
Waste of money indeed. Where I'm from a traditional burial consists of just being wrapped in a blanket. No box. We believe that elaboration on a persons death is because of guilt. We only mourn out of selfishness.
When it comes to a Jewish funeral they don't have an open casket funeral service it's a closed during the funeral service it's never opened at any point
This is why I'm planning my own funeral. My family won't be shamed into paying thousands when a I'm perfectly fine with being burned in a hefty bag. Save your money.
I'm of Israeli background and u need to stop. This isn't Israel and here in the US u need I think by law be buried in a casket if not cremated or donated to science
To have the lowest impact on the environment, I highly recommend everyone has a "natural" burial. No embalming fluid, no coffin, no urn (no cremation). Just wrap the departed in a nice cloth and bury them in the ground. Of course, as an organ donor I also recommend you donate everything you can before this!
You don't have to be Jewish to buy a plain pine box that conforms to Halakhah (or Halacha). Just specify that is what you want. Also, if you don't want to be embalmed, let that be known. You can even specify that you want to be dressed in cotton or wool so you not pollute the earth. If need be, buy what you want ahead to make sure it is what you want.
Funeral homes also sell cardboard caskets. That’s what we had my Gram in because she was going to be cremated. So we had a simple cardboard one and we filled it with roses. Her nickname was Rosie, and my Grandpa when he was alive would bring a rose in from the garden every day and give it to her saying “a rose for my Rosie”.
There still is a problem that most people do not recognize. In burying a body it is reaffirming a belief that the shell once inhabited is still important after one transfers from this existence. Funerals are not for the dead, but for the living. So as the rabbi said, ashes to ashes, dust to dust. That being said, cremation is merely speeding the process in its recycling back to its basic components.
Absolutely - anyone can purchase a simple pine box, or even a cardboard box. Many cemeteries are now opening 'green burial' sites, where bodies can be buried wrapped only in a shroud or cardboard. The options are endless, and ALL are filled with respect.
Im jewish by birth. But im curious what if i do not want a traditional jewish funeral? What if i dont want to have my body washed or to wear the shroud?
I am not Jewish, and would not presume to tell anyone else how they should bury their loved ones (or ask that they themselves be interred). I can definitely appreciate the practice of burying people without a lot of toxic chemicals accompanying them and with the expectation that the body will return to the earth from which we all, in a round-about and very physical sense, come. As for the choice of simplicity or ornamentation? Either option seems to be keeping an industry of clever, industrious, and artful craftspeople occupied, and bully for that, right? I enjoyed learning more from this video about traditions which differ from my own (Protestant Christian).
Very informative video! He is right about , why spend thousands of dollars on a casket to be put in the ground never to be seen again !! When a dear friend of mines passed away years ago, she told her daughter to let me be with her when she took care of business. It's a good thing I was with her!!! They tried to talk her into a casket that cost thousands of dollars !! The lady told us that it has a 20 year warranty on it ! HUH ?????? She said that if water got in the casket , they would replace it ! I said , how would we know if water got in after 20 years ? We would have to exhum it to find out !! She just looked at me , not answering, but went on talking showing us that the casket had a drawer in it so that we could put things in it . How sad it is that funeral director's try their best to take advantage of grieving families! We stared her down not saying a word for about 5 minutes , shook our heads and walked out! She ended up creamting her mother. I myself do not believe in nor approve of it. But , that was her mother , so I had to respect her decision. For me , just put me in what ever and put me in the ground from wench I came ! Don't spend a bunch of money! In fact I am not even having a home going service or a viewing ! Remember me as I was ! To each his own , as long as I make it home ! 🛐
After helping with the arrangements for my moms traditional burial years ago and seeing how these funeral homes charge you for the weirdest things, I told my adult children to cremate me in the cheapest way possible and to spend that money they saved on themselves.
The never show the bottom of any casket or pine box, why? Because it's usually old scrap wood that really doesn't fit together. Cleets on the top body board hold the dead up, until it rots away!
I recently learned that in Connecticut, you must have a "box" to put the body in; even if you're cremating it. Fortunately, Christians are still able get what amounts to a cardboard box for cremation. I really can't imagine going through this painfully odd and superstitious burial practice.
Having a box, makes it easier for funeral workers to handle the deceased, even in cremation. In contrast, handling a body, in a shroud or body bag is not as dignified as the body is not rigid. The cardboard container or box is a heavy duty carton designed to maintain rigidity with hundreds of pounds inside. In other words, it not a lightweight mail order box or carton you pack pillows in when moving.
The wood mitres, the curved lids, the sliding lids, the padding, the straw and the varnish. This makes death look better?.....perhaps only to Americans. Here in Australia, a very plain black, maybe plywood box with rope handles. My dearest Mother would not have complained!!
Reminds me of the story of a man who, on his death bed, made his wife swear to bury him with all their savings. So after he died, she wrote out a check with the sum of all their savings, and tossed it into the coffin.
In Israel, Jewish people, both religious and secular, don't get buried in caskets. Judaism allows the use of caskets when there is no other option of burial, like in cases in which a country doesn't allow to bury the dead without a casket. Jewish burying rituals based on many sources, one of them is Beresheet, perek gimel, pasuk yodh tet: "כי עפר אתה ואל עפר תשוב.", which is Genesis 3 : 19: "By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return.” I also recommend learning about Judaism from Jews from Israel, because Jews outside of Israel, mostly the reformers and conservatives, have adapted Christian and local rituals that don't exist in Judaism or even disobey the laws in Judaism.
I really don’t care about what coffin I have. I prefer that my family not be extravagant. I don’t even care about the embalming process. I would prefer to be placed naturally or as they’re calling it, Green. I know that I am loved by my family and I want them to know that a fancy funeral is not necessary. In fact, it is a waste of money. Money does not say, I love you. Use the money for something you really need or donate some money to a needy family. I am absolutely sure that my spirit will be with Christ as are my loved ones who have passed. I also know that my body shall rise and be transformed as Jesus taught. Be kind to others while you live. Be happy and enjoy your lives, but live with dignity and with the Holy Spirit and the promise of Eternal Life with God. “For I am with you, even until the end of time.” Jesus Christ 💘
you are 100% spot on. The Funeral Industry is a rip-off. Yes, I said it. It's so important to have your wishes written out long before your demise. Don't spend 15 thousand dollars + on a Funeral. Spend it on a family vacation. Those Memories you take with you. I am convinced of that.
I feel the same way, when I cross over, I will be with my Lord and Savior, Y'shua Hamashiach, also known as The Lord, Jesus Christ. My body at that point is merely an empty shell, and as far as r am concerned, put it in a trash bag, and put it on the curb, or if someone chooses to bury me please bury me face down, so the world can kiss my a°s
I am a second generation Native American traditional casket builder from Alaska.
Thank you for this film.
burntorangeak that’s awesome! Are there any traditions that are used by Native Americans? That would be an awesome video. I love learning about different groups of people who have beliefs that are different from my own.
I would like to see that they stop using chemicals preserving flesh to body trapping our spirits bc we can’t be traditionally laid out and come back rebirth so become part of earth bc laws etc. Also please educate public 4 native person dying among and against autopsy etc, desecration of our remains but only to wash body contact tribe This is why we chose cremation to not pollute earth those toxic chemicals or be trapped to our preserved flesh
Any links to your work?
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Not as of yet.
I have a long term goal of writing an illustrated book, chronicling the tradition and interviewing my peers across the state. Maybe someday I'll get the nerve to apply for a grant to do so.
I lost some close family this year, so it's a little close to home currently.
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I lost my father this year during the height of the pandemic. It was a feat to get him put away right.
I needed permission from the governor, and he was only allowed five Paul bearers. No embalming, and only an external examination.
It was worth the hassle to me.
I found this not only informative, but very calming and assuring. Thank you.
I agree. It was completely non-scary and informative.
I learned so much from this respectful presentation.
I found it comforting.
I want to be buried in a simple pine box with no metal, just like this.
Thank you for making this video.
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Everyone is equal in death. I like that. This is an I insightful video. Thank you
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When my best friend passed away, his brother could not function as the loss was too great for him. I was raised Catholic and my best friend was raised Jewish. He was also an extremely talented musician. I respect all Jewish customs and went to the funeral parlor to make arrangements. I had to pick out the casket and such. I was lead to the room where caskets were displayed. I KNOW my friend was a very simple person, so I picked the most simple casket. Then I changed my mind after seeing a plain wooden casket that was painted black. Still simple, but with a touch of flair that he had.
On the day of service my best friends family saw what I picked out, and they said it was a perfect choice. We opened the casket and placed his drum sticks (which he plaued so well) and a few other things he loved (Pez candy and a goo-goo cluster) he had over 250 people in attendance and one if the worst things I ever had to do in my life was give a eulogy. About 3/4 of the way through it, I began to break down, but I got through it and stepped down from the podium to a huge round of applause. My friend was the warmest, most generous person you could ever meet. He made freinds where ever he was. His house was like a hotel for everyone. He had two backyard parties every year (memorial and labor day) since there were going to be live bands at these parties (because he loved to play), Since he knew it was going to be noisy, he sent letters to every resident within a 2 block radius to invite them over. On the day of the parties he went door to door to remind them to join. There were 6 grills going at these parties all the time. People brought food, snacks, drinks etc. And even if you didnt bring anything, people would share anything they had with you. Family's with young kids, couples, singles all came. At 11pm he stopped playing music and it was all quiet. My friend didn't have much, but whatever he had, he shared. He lead a simple life full of friends. So the casket I picked out, had to respect his heritage, and get give him a little something extra (the black paint). I go to his grave site very often and always leave some Pez at his foot stone. His brother and I are the best of freinds now.
How awesome. I would have loved to have met him in person. Kinda feel like I already do through your words.
what beautiful words for your friend's memory..
@@trudydavis6168 thank you. I think about him often as there were not too many like him
You acted in the same way as I probably would have in the same situation.
I can't say 'good on you' because I don't know enough about the differences in Jewish observances to offer any kind of opinion. I do think you acted with thoughtfulness, grace, respect, and conscience, and for that I congratulate you.
@@carlhicksjr8401 thank you Sir. I dont know all the customs of the Jewish faith, but I try to learn.
What an informative video. Good straight forward information without a lot of hype. Thank you.
I’m not Jewish, but this is very informative it make sense, also the caskets are beautiful, I respect that 🙌🏿
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I like the way these caskets are made. It makes a lot of sense!
I build coffins for our Eastern Orthodox Churches, this video is beautiful.
I’m Muslim and I agree with the rabbi, it’s actually almost the same way they bury their dead
IAM not a Jewish but once attended Jewish funeral and I love the teaching according to pin casket it inspired me and want to learn more in Jewish culture
I am British, living in Northern Ireland, and have a Christian background. I throughly love the 'pine box' concept, and this should be an option in all major world Faiths. I would certainly subscribe! ❤❤❤
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Great vid. Glad to hear people say we are all equal
I didn't search for this... But this was interesting.
A simple pine box is how it should be done.
That's not simple it's either a cardboard box or nothing at all
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In Israel the plain idea of box is blaspheme. You are getting buried with simple linen wrap.
@@fisherisaac that’s good too
I'm impressed on how you made the coffin it is beautiful
I respect the views of Jewish people wishing to be buried in a wooden box.
What a waste of a valuable resource from a beautifully crafted wooden casket, for it to decompose at the same rate of decomposition as the cadaver.
Beautiful work. Thank you for shareing.
When my mother died, I did not have to choose her casket, as I had not had to do when my father died 15 years prior. My parents had already made and paid for their choice, solid oak caskets. My parents, especially my mother, were rock-solid, Bible-believing Christians. What I'll never forget, while tying up loose ends at the funeral home, one of my brothers and I went into the casket "Selection Room." We weren't there to select anything. It was all about our morbid curiosity. My brother, Chris, and I were sauntering around when a funeral home coordinator approached us. We told him we were just "looking around." There was this solid-wood , beautiful casket that caught Chris's and my eye. Its finish was beautiful, but it was so different from the rest. The funeral home employee told us that we were looking at a casket for an Orthodox Jew. It just so happened that my younger brother, Josh, was married to a former Jew. The funeral guy told Chris and me about an Orthodox Jew that was to be buried the very next day, Sunday. Jews will commonly conduct funerals on Sunday, as Sunday is just another day to them. The funeral guy told Chris and me who had died. Both Chris and I knew about to whom he was referring. He also told us that Orthodox Jews MUST be clothed in seamless white linen. His main concern was being able to fit that obese, Orthodox Jew into a 100%, kosher casket. It was a real eye-opener.
Obese bodies are a lot more common now, that's why they make oversized caskets. I wonder if the guy fit LOL. If not, he would have to order another one.
I've been wondering what I should do... This has been very helpful. Thank you.
Very important how we treat our dead. A beautiful casket.
This is beautiful!! I am Catholic and totally agree with this video. The casket will never be seen again. Why are we spending so much on them? We have become obsessed with money and social status in a material world rather than focusing of what's important! An elaborate casket is not going to make me a better person than someone buried in a plain pine box!
I like the thought process of going back to the earth since that is where you came from.
I was the tail end of my family. As I child I spent a lot of time in funeral homes saying goodbye to many aunts, uncles, grandparents.
Later in my life I worked at a cemetery, which gave me a totally different outlook on death. Taking a body, pickling it, putting good clothes and makeup is silly. Let that person go back from which they came. I've thought for a long time I should build my own box. Just a pine, plywood box.
As a Catholic I appreciate the whole Jewish tradition.
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*Star of David Memorial Chapels:* Thanks very much for the video - this was very interesting! I am a Jew by choice (Orthodox) for 16 years, and I didn't know a lot of this. I only knew about the plain wood casket. Thanks!
These caskets are every bit as beautiful as some very expensive solid oak caskets I’ve seen.
Thanks for this recording.
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Nice to see things I've only read about. Thank you
Very interesting .. I had no idea. The simple pine box with no metal parts makes so much sense. But what about the cement vaults required in some states?
In the UK I have seen some of my Christian friends buried in a wicker/ willow woven coffin with no metal parts and just lined with a simple un dyed woollen blanket wrapping the body. Is this a acceptable for Jewish burials. A very simple ceremony at the graveside. Also they do not use any preservatives or embalming on the body. I would hope my children will be observant so as I am 75 and ill I want to show by example in my own funeral that tradition and faith can walk hand in hand..
Just so long as all elements of the burial container and/or shroud decompose, it's ok.
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I have for the longest time wanted a simple pine box. My family knows that already 😊
I am Jewish, and the Rabbi was absolutely correct, and I totally agree.
When buying a casket; we may see it for only a very brief time then, it gets buried never to be seen again.
The respect we owe our deceased family members doesn't lay in the casket or, its cost, it lay in honoring his/her memory.
If they want a coffin which decomposes quickly, they should use the old style particle board. My bathroom vanity cabinet, which looks really beautiful, is swelling up and crumbling all round, as it absorbs water from its environment. One could make a truly ornate and attractive coffin, cheaply, and with the knowledge that it'll be lucky to last a month underground.
That's really a good idea!
autophyte Oy!
Particle board is used when a person who wishes a cremation but also wants a viewing prior
Kevin Tersavige we had my Gram in a lined cardboard box. She was being cremated and mom and one aunt decided not to spend too much on the box. My other aunt who is on welfare and is a MASSIVE alcoholic, refused to help pay for anything flipped out that her poor dear mother was in a cardboard box; she wanted my mother to spent $$$ for a casket that was just going to burn up. At one point my Gram banned her alcoholic daughter from
Her house because of the drama. The rest of us thought the plain lined box was nice and we filled it with roses, her middle name was Rose and everyone called her Rosie. My Grandpa when he was alive would bring her in a rose from his garden every day during warm weather, and say “a rose for my Rosie”. She looked like she was laying on a bed of Roses by the time we got done putting the flowers around her.
that is awesome. I had the priveledge of watching a jewish funeral (viewneral actually) It is so caring and respectful for the deceased
I love the simplicity on this coffin... but as a born again Christian, to be absent from the body... is to be present with the Lord.
And the Jews,whom do not believe as YOU, will they be in HELL? Answer that,you need to converse with Jews ,to learn THEIR BELIFS NOT IMPOSE YOURS
I LEARNED that the Jewish faith believes that YOU DEAD. That’s it. No after life, no hope, “carry her in your bones” we were told by the Rabbi officiating the funeral. But Greg, we get it. The other respondent just got offended. Why? Because maybe, just MAYYYYBE. Jesus is the Son of God, and the Messianic Jews get it after all.
Amen. Yes, the soul has been redeemed, but the body returns to dust from whence it came. Why one might ask? Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven, until the return of Christ we will have a new incorruptible body like unto Christ's own body. Not that old body, but a new incorruptible body fitted for heaven. Then shall we be forever with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
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@@shaynewheeler9249 I think your constant reminder to folks is getting old. Quit with the superiority complex please.
For my last 20 years, as a Joiner, I made coffins in Denmark. We have a strict policy for what materials must be used producing a coffin, paint and ornaments, but we did use metal spikes/clamps besides glue. And the product must be made in a specific and controlled for this purpose, Factory. We also made coffins purely from different types of wood, but - oak made the grave area used, to be rented for 40 years instead of 20, as standard, because mostly a such coffin takes longer to disappear.
At a time we made an oak coffin for the Official State Burial of a killed Policeman, during a robbery.
I’m a Christian and I want to be buried in a pine box. Is that wrong? Otherwise, I’ll be cremated.
Eileen Meyerhoff Doesn’t matter, you won’t know either way.
Eileen Meyerhoff No, it is certainly OK to use a pine box. You should consider making it known to relatives and your minister and to purchase one or have one made.
U don't need a casket at all to be buried it's a scam that's been pushed on Americans by the funeral homes,u can be buried straight into the ground, without anything,,in America it's legal to look it up
You can have a green Burial
@@newdogatplay I didnt know that . Thanks for the info .
Giving myself to medical research. But i love love simple. Just a nice pine box if I was choosing burial.
lymarie1974 Me too!
Well I’m not sure which but I watch lotta RUclips and this was very interesting I am an interior finish carpenter and I can honestly say that workmanship on those caskets or top notch! Each religion has their own beliefs but it was interesting watching this RUclips😊
Glad I found this video. My Jewish neighbor has entrusted me to manage his affairs after his death.
In the comment above yours a guy named Roy Yung ,kind of has a same story as you on taking care of his friends funeral arrangement and how his friend's mom and dad was happy on how he picked out the right casket and everything he did. I don't know why but I just felt led to share this with you, but you can check out his comment if you want to it's right above yours.
Randy Buchert Okay friend, will do.
Randy Buchert Thanks! I read the story you mentioned and can attest to the uniqueness of my neighbor-friend. He has a lifelong passion for trains and I learned a thing or two about them including a movie with Burt Lancaster, “The Train.” 👍
Absolutely love this..being a simple living individual
My dad had a pine box with blue 💙🔵 casket in the back of the family members trees in FL and buried in St. Joseph Garden cemetery 🪦⚰️ in areas of a maple tree.
Judaism is so logical. Very admirative of your traditions and adherence to tradition...rr Normandy, Fra.
I look after the Jewish people i think there religion is great attitude and beliefs i personal love it its simple and dignity ❤
The Jewish religion is beautifull i not any religion not been baptized but thats the religion i would choose
@@zentafergiefergie7044 Thank You!
Just one inquiry, what if the local regulation requires burial of casket to be inside concrete vault then it is the one lowered-buried to the Earth.
I'm not even of the Jewish faith and I have already built my own coffin to be buried in, it's what I want and puts no burden on my family. It is all wood like the Jewish types (I didn't know that was a thing), but is of the classical faceted gothic design like you'd see in a Dracula movie. I agree with the Orthodox concept that there is life after death, and that it is simply ashes-to-ashes and dust-to-dust. We are all dying from the moment we are born, so don't worry on it. Death comes for all.
Having my mom and dad pass a month apart I always think of death right around the corner from me it sucks not knowing what or how you will go really makes you appreciate what they went thru in their life time
My family has a tradition of "second from the bottom". When my wife passed, I was unable to buy as simple a casket as I wanted, since the funeral home conveniently didn't stock it. Since there is never time to order, they get to automatically upsell. That said, I priced out the "simple" ones and they are no longer as inexpensive as they once were. I'd make my own when needed, but newly purchased wood needs to dry so as not to warp... again leading to a time crunch. So we are kinda stuck.
I should preplan I don't want my loved ones to bare the weight of thinking would Steve have liked this? Their minds are already going all over the place along with their heads pounding like a hammer. I'm a modest person I don't need any extravagant send off. A simple service with the genuine hope of an afterlife where I can hug my loved ones that predeceased me. The beautiful irony is that our loss is another's reunion. Take Care everyone.
When I die I want the same casket my uncle is buried in as well as my Gigi and what my grandma and grandpa will be buried in. A beautiful handmade casket made by Trappist monks. That is really inexpensive.
yes spend boatloads on it just to hide it in the ground like a dog bone. Hmm
A very sweet & loving request.
My grandmother always told us she just wanted to a simple pine box. When she died my mother got her a nice looking expensive coffin. My grandmother's wishes were less important than people thinking we were cheap. My grandmother was very thrifty and never ashamed of it.
Beautiful. Shalom.
Did you ever sit at a red light and see a Funeral procession drive by? And say to yourself one day you will be in the back of that hearse? Its a sobering thought.
No. I just hope they hurry up so I can get to where I'm going.
Not me. They'll put me in the van and turn me into ashes. I hate being stuck in traffic and I'd hate to think that my meat's last interaction with society is to help slow people down while they're trying to commute.
Death is not the end, just the beginning..do not fear it
I like seagrass woven coffins. And I have a pretty quilt to be wrapped in.
Wow! This makes a lot of sense
I would like a nice, simple casket and service. I think it's for the best. I just want my body to benefit the earth as it returns.
YES!!!
I found this fascinating.
My grandfather use to make those here on the west coast. I think he was only 1 of 3 men that did it here in south California.
why even a casket? just toss me in a hole, Cheaper, Closer to Earth, Faster decomposition, Ashes to Ashes
Because just burying corpses in the Earth can lead to widespread disease.
Case in point: I'm a US Civil War reenactor [see pic at left] and after the Battle of Gettysburg, there were so many dead men and horses buried across such a wide area that it infected the local water table with disease for months thereafter. The Battle was in July 1863, the efforts to disinter and re-inter the dead inside the National Battlefield Monument began in October and Lincoln attended the consecration of the Monument was that November. Typhus, dysentery and cholera were still ravaging the town as Lincoln was giving the Gettysburg Address.
This is why most jurisdictions insist on concrete vaults unless you've been cremated or specifically expressed a Jewish, Hindu, or Muslim faith.
@@carlhicksjr8401 Very Informative, never thought of it that way, Thank you
@@carlhicksjr8401 Great post, Carl, but we don't have concrete vaults in the UK and I don't think anyone living near a cemetery has come down with these diseases as a result. Granted, we use coffins here, but I imagine these break down pretty quickly in our cold, damp climate.
@@kernow9324 Well, remember that I'm talking about large numbers of dead buried without coffins concentrated on one water table.
Also, as I understand it [and I am no expert by any means], one reason why corpses are embalmed is to help prevent disease by slowing the corruption process. Again, I might be wrong on that one.
In Israel, the deceased are buried wrapped in a shroud. No casket at all.
Waste of money indeed. Where I'm from a traditional burial consists of just being wrapped in a blanket. No box. We believe that elaboration on a persons death is because of guilt. We only mourn out of selfishness.
Absolutely!
Everyone is entitled to their beliefs.
I find most if not all funeral to be a bit barbaric. I've made plans to be cremated and the my ashes spread in the woods.
I agree you came into this world with nothing,you should leave this world the same way,less is more.
U mean like what Muslims do
Is embalming done? And is a vault used?
Orthodox no embalming and think vault is mandatory in the United States
Thank you!
Good info......
When it comes to a Jewish funeral they don't have an open casket funeral service it's a closed during the funeral service it's never opened at any point
This is why I'm planning my own funeral. My family won't be shamed into paying thousands when a I'm perfectly fine with being burned in a hefty bag. Save your money.
Very informative
In Israel, the deceased is wrapped in a shroud and buried with no coffin at all.
And so your point is what, exactly?
Just to show how in Judaism burial is kept simple.
I'm of Israeli background and u need to stop. This isn't Israel and here in the US u need I think by law be buried in a casket if not cremated or donated to science
To have the lowest impact on the environment, I highly recommend everyone has a "natural" burial. No embalming fluid, no coffin, no urn (no cremation). Just wrap the departed in a nice cloth and bury them in the ground. Of course, as an organ donor I also recommend you donate everything you can before this!
@jamiebellwolf Then I would stipulate that after they take what they need, they put the rest in a bucket and use it for chum on the open seas!
@jamiebellwolf Well, it really makes no difference to me, as long as I am feeding nature one way or the other: The sharks or the worms!
I have got a metal knee would it be taken out
no
God says the soul can die but the spirit of man returns to God awaiting the resurrection!
Peggy Little Dragon 🙄
nice video, do they make simple coffins for non-believers ?
You don't have to be Jewish to buy a plain pine box that conforms to Halakhah (or Halacha). Just specify that is what you want. Also, if you don't want to be embalmed, let that be known. You can even specify that you want to be dressed in cotton or wool so you not pollute the earth. If need be, buy what you want ahead to make sure it is what you want.
Funeral homes also sell cardboard caskets. That’s what we had my Gram in because she was going to be cremated. So we had a simple cardboard one and we filled it with roses. Her nickname was Rosie, and my Grandpa when he was alive would bring a rose in from the garden every day and give it to her saying “a rose for my Rosie”.
There still is a problem that most people do not recognize. In burying a body it is reaffirming a belief that the shell once inhabited is still important after one transfers from this existence. Funerals are not for the dead, but for the living. So as the rabbi said, ashes to ashes, dust to dust. That being said, cremation is merely speeding the process in its recycling back to its basic components.
There are metal staples in these caskets. Check for them underneath. I've delivered these Jewish caskets to funeral homes.
James Dauphinais wrong
@@EmanViam check underneath them. Feel with your fingers the metal Staples. I'm not being disrespectful at all.
Wish I could have a casket like this.
You can. No problem. 😁
I wish you to live forever so you won't need one.
Mayer schwartz awe thanks
Can a Catholic get this type of casket with a crucifix. I like this idea!
Linda Fowler, there are Catholic orders that make caskets. See trappistcaskets.com for example.
Marian Caskets makes a beautiful one.
I intend to when I die. If I still can, I'll get mine from the Archabbey in St. Meinrad, Indiana.
like these, it seems we all should go this way. having zero experience, do Christians have a choice of a casket like these?
cds162 Yes.
Absolutely - anyone can purchase a simple pine box, or even a cardboard box. Many cemeteries are now opening 'green burial' sites, where bodies can be buried wrapped only in a shroud or cardboard. The options are endless, and ALL are filled with respect.
That was interesting man.
Im jewish by birth. But im curious what if i do not want a traditional jewish funeral? What if i dont want to have my body washed or to wear the shroud?
then don't, the only thing I want is the pine box. I like the idea of equality at death.
I am not Jewish, and would not presume to tell anyone else how they should bury their loved ones (or ask that they themselves be interred). I can definitely appreciate the practice of burying people without a lot of toxic chemicals accompanying them and with the expectation that the body will return to the earth from which we all, in a round-about and very physical sense, come. As for the choice of simplicity or ornamentation? Either option seems to be keeping an industry of clever, industrious, and artful craftspeople occupied, and bully for that, right? I enjoyed learning more from this video about traditions which differ from my own (Protestant Christian).
Very informative video!
He is right about , why spend thousands of dollars on a casket to be put in the ground never to be seen again !!
When a dear friend of mines passed away years ago, she told her daughter to let me be with her when she took care of business.
It's a good thing I was with her!!!
They tried to talk her into a casket that cost thousands of dollars !! The lady told us that it has a 20 year warranty on it !
HUH ??????
She said that if water got in the casket , they would replace it !
I said , how would we know if water got in after 20 years ?
We would have to exhum it to find out !! She just looked at me , not answering, but went on talking showing us that the casket had a drawer in it so that we could put things in it .
How sad it is that funeral director's try their best to take advantage of grieving families!
We stared her down not saying a word for about 5 minutes , shook our heads and walked out!
She ended up creamting her mother. I myself do not believe in nor approve of it. But , that was her mother , so I had to respect her decision.
For me , just put me in what ever and put me in the ground from wench I came ! Don't spend a bunch of money! In fact I am not even having a home going service or a viewing !
Remember me as I was !
To each his own , as long as I make it home ! 🛐
After helping with the arrangements for my moms traditional burial years ago and seeing how these funeral homes charge you for the weirdest things, I told my adult children to cremate me in the cheapest way possible and to spend that money they saved on themselves.
Soylent Green is the way to go.
Belgium and Switzerland euthanasia clinics are probably the closest we will get.
This is how all caskets should be .
I have a genuine question for anyone who can answer. Is there a move toward a fully natural burials in the Jewish community?
Ileanhow to do gasket
So how much does a modest jewish funeral cost compared to the typical Christian funeral? Just curious.
Thanks
I am of an Orthodox family.
We use only plain pine.
The never show the bottom of any casket or pine box, why? Because it's usually old scrap wood that really doesn't fit together.
Cleets on the top body board hold the dead up, until it rots away!
My body goes to medical research the university pays for disposal via cremitorium no fees at all
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That's against the Jewish religion.
When my time comes it'll be a woodland burial in just a shroud. No need even for a pine box.
I recently learned that in Connecticut, you must have a "box" to put the body in; even if you're cremating it. Fortunately, Christians are still able get what amounts to a cardboard box for cremation. I really can't imagine going through this painfully odd and superstitious burial practice.
Catholics weren't aloud to cremate their dead until the 1960's, some still won't. & they have some pretty superstitious practices themselves.
Compare this to the highly invasive practice of embalming and your opinion may change.
Having a box, makes it easier for funeral workers to handle the deceased, even in cremation. In contrast, handling a body, in a shroud or body bag is not as dignified as the body is not rigid.
The cardboard container or box is a heavy duty carton designed to maintain rigidity with hundreds of pounds inside. In other words, it not a lightweight mail order box or carton you pack pillows in when moving.
Green burial. Excellent.
That is how it should be....💐
The wood mitres, the curved lids, the sliding lids, the padding, the straw and the varnish. This makes death look better?.....perhaps only to Americans. Here in Australia, a very plain black, maybe plywood box with rope handles. My dearest Mother would not have complained!!
I want mine to be VERY expensive , that will give my wife something to really cry about !
I like the idea of giving everyone at the funeral a stun gun. Last person standing gets the estate.
Reminds me of the story of a man who, on his death bed, made his wife swear to bury him with all their savings. So after he died, she wrote out a check with the sum of all their savings, and tossed it into the coffin.
Very nice.
In Israel, Jewish people, both religious and secular, don't get buried in caskets. Judaism allows the use of caskets when there is no other option of burial, like in cases in which a country doesn't allow to bury the dead without a casket.
Jewish burying rituals based on many sources, one of them is Beresheet, perek gimel, pasuk yodh tet: "כי עפר אתה ואל עפר תשוב.", which is Genesis 3 : 19: "By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return.”
I also recommend learning about Judaism from Jews from Israel, because Jews outside of Israel, mostly the reformers and conservatives, have adapted Christian and local rituals that don't exist in Judaism or even disobey the laws in Judaism.
I really don’t care about what coffin I have. I prefer that my family not be extravagant. I don’t even care about the embalming process. I would prefer to be placed naturally or as they’re calling it, Green.
I know that I am loved by my family and I want them to know that a fancy funeral is not necessary. In fact, it is a waste of money. Money does not say, I love you. Use the money for something you really need or donate some money to a needy family.
I am absolutely sure that my spirit will be with Christ as are my loved ones who have passed. I also know that my body shall rise and be transformed as Jesus taught.
Be kind to others while you live. Be happy and enjoy your lives, but live with dignity and with the Holy Spirit and the promise of Eternal Life with God.
“For I am with you, even until the end of time.” Jesus Christ 💘
Delilah Rainelle very well said. God bless you.
Far as I'm concerned, bury me face down, so the world can kiss my ass.
you are 100% spot on. The Funeral Industry is a rip-off. Yes, I said it. It's so important to have your wishes written out long before your demise. Don't spend 15 thousand dollars + on a Funeral. Spend it on a family vacation. Those Memories you take with you. I am convinced of that.
I feel the same way, when I cross over, I will be with my Lord and Savior, Y'shua Hamashiach, also known as The Lord, Jesus Christ. My body at that point is merely an empty shell, and as far as r am concerned, put it in a trash bag, and put it on the curb, or if someone chooses to bury me please bury me face down, so the world can kiss my a°s
Recall..do not be so I'll informed this is about a JEWISH persons funeral,they are not Christian OK?😯