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Class A Gas Motorhome or Class A Diesel Motorhome?

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  • Опубликовано: 16 авг 2024
  • Hey everyone welcome back to another video. A question I get asked every single day is Which is better a Class A Gas Motorhome or a Class A Diesel Motorhome?
    Well today were going to answer that question!
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    0:00 Intro
    1:39 Price
    3:01 Length
    4:20 Ride & Drive
    5:33 Noise & Sound
    9:33 Storage
    11:05 Towing
    13:14 Ownership Cost
    15:22 Closing Thoughts Final Opinion

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  • @adrianalvarez9130
    @adrianalvarez9130 3 года назад +9

    I’m gonna take the Disel

    • @youngblood2
      @youngblood2 2 месяца назад

      My motto is "never run a diesel when a gasser will do"!

  • @yunengdahl3675
    @yunengdahl3675 2 года назад +6

    Wow, thanks Matt. I'm a 50 year old Asian grandma, and you explained this in a way that I could easily understand. Very much appreciated.

  • @dariendukes4875
    @dariendukes4875 10 месяцев назад +4

    I never realized that the gasoline motor homes were that much less expensive than the diesel powered ones, that's some eye opening information, thanks Matt

  • @jnicksnewstart
    @jnicksnewstart 3 года назад +29

    I've been watching Matt and Andrea's videos from almost his beginning. It never ceases to amaze me how candid and honest Matt's opinions are. I like how they always point out things that they don't like as well as things they like. If I was going to invest in a motorhome, a couple of phone calls and a plane ticket to see this guy in person may just be one of the cheapest Investments you've ever made.

  • @gavinbitz2563
    @gavinbitz2563 3 года назад +4

    There is no way I could afford a diesel pusher new. No way. However I can afford a used one and I do most of the maintenance and work on it myself. My Newmar Dutch Star 8.3 cummins now has over 200,000 miles on it and runs like a champ, good luck having a gasser with that many miles on it in a motorhome. Its all diesel for me, have had many gassers and the lack of power and the wind factor driving down the road and noise levels we're the deal breaker for me. Great video!

  • @richardkoch8752
    @richardkoch8752 2 года назад +10

    Matt, you are by far the straightest shooter on RUclips!!!! Honesty is everything! Early in life before Law Enforcement I drove trucks of all kinds and heavy equipment for a living. The God's honest truth is if TAKEN CARE OF and following manufacturers maintenance recommendations, the gas engine CAN and WILL go 250,000 miles and beyond. The Diesel; probably to 1/2 million miles and way beyond. You will never drive it that much. I have had a gas engine go kaput and also a CAT. Diesel engine break a crank. Difference is: the gas engine can be swapped out or rebuilt for around $5K.....the Diesel: you'll probably need to refinance it......you can start at $30K and much higher........ouch!!!!
    I would go gas every time unless I had a huge wallet or if I traveled mountains constantly.....then that "Jake Brake" is awful nice to have.
    Please keep doing this type of video Matt!!!! You're the BEST!!!!!!!

    • @JourneymanJacob
      @JourneymanJacob 3 месяца назад +1

      Very substantive comment here. Thank you

    • @youngblood2
      @youngblood2 2 месяца назад +1

      My motto is "never run a diesel when a gasser will do"!

  • @johnrogers3781
    @johnrogers3781 17 дней назад

    Wow, an honest salesman .

  • @lindamast3478
    @lindamast3478 Месяц назад

    We have an old, but luxury diesel. It’s nice, it is comfortable. We can carry anything we want to take, tow anything we want and you don’t even feel it’s back there. It’s big, it has a roomy interior. We have replaced and upgraded nearly every electronic thing on it and had a residential refrigerator installed. It just turned 100,000 miles which is nothing for a diesel truck. But the cabin part of this coach is starting to show a bit of wear. Our previous Motorhome was gas. Our next Motorhome will be gas. It can be serviced anywhere. When we have had repairs on the diesel, we are usually on a truck lot, and waiting behind the trucks that companies are pushing to get fixed and back on the road.

  • @sambergami7559
    @sambergami7559 3 года назад +113

    I would like to see a comparison of a Class A and a Super C.

  • @d.jarrett6489
    @d.jarrett6489 6 месяцев назад +3

    Honesty is always the best policy! Love how your straightforward with people.

  • @deanh7190
    @deanh7190 2 года назад +1

    Hi Matt,
    We have owned both a Class A gas and Class A Diesel Pusher.
    1) Price difference:Isn't just for the engine /transmission package as the diesel pusher (DP) is going to have upgrades throughout the interior & exterior as well as other mechanical systems like water heater, suspension, heater, luxury accouterments, etc which are included at the higher overall price (which Matt points out at the end of the video).
    2) length: valid debate. The shorter the coach, the more camp sites you can fit into. That's why the shortest 35-37' DPs are so desirable. Our 1st RV was a 32' gas class A and we fit everywhere. Our current RV is a 37' DP and we fit into most State Parks & National Parks. However, you can fit just about anything into private parks but they are usually more expensive since they receive no State or Federal subsidies, are outside desirable National Parks, and vary as to their upkeep.
    3) Ride: no comparison. The F53 sits on leaf springs front & rear while the Diesel pusher rides on air bags and in some cases with independent front suspension. The F53 can be modded to perform better but even then, the DP will ride better. Tire size does matter as Matt points out. The larger footprint provides greater stability but also can run lower tire pressures and still meet the weight carrying requirements. If your budget points to gas, research and do the worthwhile upgrades.
    4) Noise: The gas engine rides upfront between the driver & passenger seats under an insulated 'doghouse' engine cover while the DP is out back. Standing/ idling sound OK, Getting to 60 mph...DP is quicker & quieter...Climbing hills (not mentioned)...No comparison. The gas will be revving very high and trans downshifting as low as possible while the DP will crush the hill with locomotive type strength with much lower RPMs. (Depends on engine size...Ours is a Cummins L9 w/450 hp / 1,250 ft lbs of torque). Again, owned both and have crossed the Rockies. Edit ~ Not mentioned: Braking performance. What goes up must come down. The diesels offer engine braking. Ours is 2 stage (3 or all 6 cylinder exhaust valve opening) which is great. We descend hills at the posted speed while in full control. Gas you can downshift but will be pushing revs near the limit.
    5)Exterior Storage: Matt explains the differences very well. However, some gas models, even though shorter than the DP, will have greater storage in measured cubic feet but will not have the pass through advantage. Still, plenty of room with either. Load your unit and go camping...then come home and take out all the stuff you didn't need😉.
    6)Towing: Bravo Matt!... for pointing out that your rig should be weighed before towing. We load ours up for travel mode...full tank fuel, fresh water tank full, etc and drive to a truck stop where they usually have a CAT Scale. Safety first.
    7)Ownership Cost: Don't overlook resale differences but Matt's Final Opinion & Closing Thoughts are 100% accurate. Well done Matt.

  • @JandAReview1
    @JandAReview1 3 года назад +12

    Getting a diesel worked on will cost you a lot more for sure.

  • @lbuondelmonte
    @lbuondelmonte 3 года назад +29

    Hi Matt, my husband is listening closely, we ARE asking the question ourselves. Hi Andrea!

    • @davefroman4700
      @davefroman4700 3 года назад

      Its really simple. If you are just going to the lake or to see the grandkids once a year or so? Go Gas. If you are planning on being on the road for weeks at a time every year? Diesel is the only way to go. Gas motorhomes are good for about 75k miles before the motor will be toast. And their maintenance intervals are 4 times as often as a diesel coach. I had a 96 with the V10 and got rid of it after a year and bought a used diesel pusher for less than what I paid for the first one. Much happier.

  • @MililaniJag
    @MililaniJag 3 года назад +3

    Generally, Diesel Pusher for the Full Timer & Gasser is for the Short tripper & Seasonal/Snowbirds. Thx!

  • @jeffmckinney8929
    @jeffmckinney8929 3 года назад +42

    Matt, great review and appreciate your honest opinions. We have owned both and I agree with your assessment of the 2 types. The only other thing I can add is it is much easier to fuel a diesel since you can use truck stops with plenty of room to maneuver. When we had a gas MH I had to carefully plan gas stops as we needed plenty of room to maneuver our 37 Footer with toad.

  • @violetdipaolo450
    @violetdipaolo450 2 дня назад

    We loved this video. This is the question we’ve been asking. Thank You for the great information

  • @wgreenjr81
    @wgreenjr81 3 года назад +11

    0:59 Nailed it! Objectively the Diesel is always better. Subjectively will you as the individual consumer utilize it's benefits enough to justify the increased cost? That is where the sticking point is and why no one but the buyer can answer this question.

  • @nyafret8329
    @nyafret8329 3 года назад +21

    Waiting for the Super C comparison!

  • @tjztyger
    @tjztyger 3 года назад +1

    Now. Let's do three things we like about Matt's video and three things we didn't like!
    Liked:
    1. Serious Matt. Very subdued & educational.
    2. Only 7 points to compare. Very streamlined.
    3. Using such similar coaches (Manufacturer, color, styling)
    Dislikes:
    1. No Andrea!
    2. Front, driving, rear & campsite noise comparisons for generator & engine.
    3. No actual road comparison, especially with a grade (I know it's impractical, but still would be helpful)

  • @jeffturnbull3114
    @jeffturnbull3114 Год назад +1

    As a RV Salesperson myself, I appreciate your honesty.

  • @rvhome5599
    @rvhome5599 3 года назад +4

    We have a Tiffin Allegro red 37PA and love it.
    It’s a 2020 and it rides very nice, the air suspension make a huge difference, can’t even tell when a semi passes me with no modifications.
    I was surprised how good it is on fuel, we are total weight with the tow at 34000 pounds and we are at 9.8 miles per gallon , diesel.
    With the TST fuel card you will not pay more then gas fuel.
    Yes it cost more but when you trade it or sell it you do a lot better then a common gas RV.
    It’s all what you can afford and prefer, diesels with emissions can cause you grief, so extended warranty is advised.
    Thanks Matt for this and be honest

  • @naominjg11
    @naominjg11 3 года назад +16

    Thanks for the help as a salesman I find your comments honest and clear and you leave the finale decisson to the customer

  • @Revnref
    @Revnref 3 года назад +1

    I'm happy you don't push one over the other. By just pointing out the facts you let the consumer decide. Too many times, some rely upon the opinion of someone else and then are dismayed when what they get wasn't what fit them. Everyone has to do their own research. You provide the research.

  • @j.foobar1764
    @j.foobar1764 3 года назад +3

    Another factor worth mentioning is the door placement. DPs tend to have bus-style doors which pushes the front passenger seat back and also makes an over-cab bunk less practical since you have to duck/crawl under it to get in/out (as well as possible move the ladder) if the bunk is deployed. Personally, I hate bus-style doors and prefer the cockpit design of a gasser. On the other hand, the bus-style door does get you that much more interior floorspace since you don't have to make room for steps in your living room.

  • @andrewdhicks32407
    @andrewdhicks32407 3 года назад +73

    This will be one of your most watched vids. Good job brother

  • @jeeper5264
    @jeeper5264 3 года назад +41

    Good info Matt...looking forward to the V-10 vs V8 compare video

    • @lmac9364
      @lmac9364 3 года назад +4

      Interesting and useful information - would have liked to have seen the noise levels at the back of both rigs - if someone likes to sleep on highway how loud is it in the back of the diesel above the engine?

    • @jt31713
      @jt31713 3 года назад

      The v8 has closed the gap a bit no doubt

  • @jhomrich89
    @jhomrich89 Год назад +2

    I think it's worth adding with the diesel you will also generally get a lot more interior appointments with the diesel than you would with a gas motorhome. As you said matt it really boils down to what are you doing with it and will it fit your needs. If you only put 3-5k miles each year and you can live without certain amenities and your tow vehicle is a small car a gasser will work for you. If however you are planning on going on longer distance trips and spending a bit more time in your RV or you need that extra towing capacity for whatever reason; you have a larger vehicle or trailer and prefer to have things such as washer dryer, more house like appliances the extra storage and ability to take more guests and you can stomach the extra expense, then a diesel is for you

  • @MikeandBonnieAdventures
    @MikeandBonnieAdventures 3 года назад +9

    You are so freakin' smart about RV's. This is your true calling in life! Keep making these Q&A videos!

  • @vernonetheridge6359
    @vernonetheridge6359 3 года назад +4

    The only other thing I would have added on the cost of ownership would be the additonal cost of DEF to the diesel pusher as well. Great video Matt!!

  • @dougperkins2036
    @dougperkins2036 3 года назад +46

    Do the comparison of a super c vs class A!

    • @Twatkins48489
      @Twatkins48489 3 года назад +2

      Slim watching this from Wash D.C. u are the most honest person being straight forward about selling these Motorhomes!!! If I was looking I would fly to wherever u are and buy from U!!! Great super Great Review!!! U make a person want to buy one I am really blown away by your honesty sir!!

  • @user-hz8ds1qo1g
    @user-hz8ds1qo1g Год назад +1

    I cannot express how much I appreciate and honest, unbiased and informed opinion . . . THANK YOU

  • @JohnDrivesAnything
    @JohnDrivesAnything 3 года назад +1

    I sleep in a Ford Econoline Down by the River but I still enjoy watching these videos talking about if a RV costing $100,000 is that much better lol

  • @Stormpix
    @Stormpix 3 года назад +34

    Really love these new FAQ segments. I really like how you explain things, and your honesty is very much appreciated. Can't wait to see more!

  • @thebrucewagner
    @thebrucewagner 3 года назад +20

    Excellent down to Earth, "tell it like it is" style, Matt. More of that.... is what the world needs. Thanks! Very informative. I learned so much in this one short video!

  • @bchlvrbob
    @bchlvrbob 3 года назад

    If you plan on doing this lifestyle for years, look at 20 year old Class A diesel vs gas, you will be amazed. The diesel coaches definitely have better longevity. Your comparison new is spot on!, but the materials in that gas coach seldom measure up.

  • @anthonyreynolds4815
    @anthonyreynolds4815 2 года назад

    Very well put, I'm a diesel mechanic by trade, 30 years. Yes diesel is better but we bought gas because we are part time campers maybe 12 trips a year. And this is our first Class A. More bells and whistle with gas for the $$$$. 2000 Tiffin 39 with V10

  • @timmurr1672
    @timmurr1672 3 года назад +29

    I had a gas it was a great Coach I now have a diesel it’s hard to describe the difference in the two. Better ride better handling better everything.

    • @concernedpatriot.2221
      @concernedpatriot.2221 3 года назад

      Same here went from a georgetown class A gasoline to an itasca meridian 40u diesel pusher. The difference is night and day. There is no Comparison between the ride and build quality of a diesel compared to a gasoline. I will never get a gasoline class A ever again. The squeaks and rattles were horrendous on the gasoline. The diesel is well well worth paying the extra cost.

  • @charlotteforrester3118
    @charlotteforrester3118 3 года назад +24

    Love this Q&A! You answered a lot questions on the difference. It’s refreshing to see someone more interested in customer satisfaction. ❤️❤️❤️

  • @MollydogRadar
    @MollydogRadar 2 года назад

    Another nice safety feature about the diesel motorhome is they have an ENGINE BRAKE. I use mine all the time.

  • @Prokillier
    @Prokillier 2 года назад

    Great Video Matt....You hit all the nails on the head. We upgraded from a 36 Gasser to a 40 ft Diesel and one of the biggest reasons was the ability to put fuel in the Gasser. I guess it is not so amazing to figure out that gas stations are not really designed for 36ft gassers pulling a toad...and it was very frustrating to get fuel. We do not encounter that with or Diesel pusher and you can also fill up from either side.....added plus. Yeah, I know 21st-century problems. I agree with the fact the fuel mileage is about the same and that the drivers and how they drive make huge contributions to MPG...but if you are towing and traveling in the mountains the pusher to gas is like coming out of the dark and into the light....it rides better, handles better and it feels so much safer. In my opinion, it's also better built. I appreciate all you, Andrea, and Will do Keep up the great work

  • @Powerstroke98
    @Powerstroke98 2 года назад +3

    I researched online mainly, and ended up with a preowned diesel pusher. Possibly the favourite things I like is that I have a fuel-fill door on both sides, so both lead to the tank so if one side is full at the RV pumps, I can just use the other side and fill. We truly like how quiet it is up front, where we can have a conversation without competing with the engine noise! Third and perhaps one of the most important is the exhaust brake on the diesel, where gassers don't have one, so we have secondary braking, where on some hills you never have to touch the service brake pedal as the engine/turbo is doing the braking for you. Generally, the diesel has more power, but that wasn't a factor for us, as I'm never in a hurry anyway. I'll mention too, again...generally the diesel coach has a diesel generator, which is often much quieter than a gas generator, at least the built in models like we have. Maintenance is usually less on a gasser, but I do my own usually, along with the 'fix-it's, as it's good to feel confident that it's maintained well.

  • @jeffrice5373
    @jeffrice5373 3 года назад +9

    As a Gas class A owner, I agree with everything Matt said. No matter what RV you buy your still going to get to your destination.

  • @jefflennox9353
    @jefflennox9353 2 года назад

    When looking for a class A motor home, I spoke to several mechanics at Rush Trucks to get their opinion. All four said the same thing, unless you need to climb grades at 70 or more and want to spend more on fuel and service go with the gas engine. As for ride, once I purchased six new tires, going from Michelin to Toyo with bead balancing, 😊the ride improved substantially since the Toyo tires have a wider footprint.

  • @josephochoa5558
    @josephochoa5558 3 года назад

    Your summary at the conclusion is right on point, When I went looking of course I heard "a diesel is better", however for someone that only RVs 4 months a year and covers 3-4 thousand miles. I could not justify the increased purchase and ownership cost. I used a little of the money I save to improve the suspension and totally enjoy my gasser even towing a car four down. If money was not a factor at all, then sure a diesel, but you can get more "smiles per dollar" from a gasser. Oh and a little FatMat sound insulation for the dog house did a lot for the sound

  • @markparham3759
    @markparham3759 3 года назад +7

    Please do that video Class A to Super C. This was great! I sent a question thru the website and have not heard back :(. Great channel and reviews

  • @saltysteveandmisfitmichele
    @saltysteveandmisfitmichele 3 года назад +21

    Smiles per gallon! Love it.

  • @GUITARATORY
    @GUITARATORY 2 года назад

    Great video. Always take in consideration the brakes. You cannot compare air brakes to hydraulic brakes. Especially when towing anything. Plus diesels have engine brakes. Brakes are more important than anything else. Also generator size. Generator placement and access. Diesels have generators in the front when you’re sleeping or taking a nap and your generators on you are usually in the back very quiet. I fix all my heavy equipment when I need a lift I bring my trucks to my diesel mechanic. He told me there was a Tiffin gas motor home it looks great until he looked underneath he told the owner be very careful going downhill do not tell anything heavy because of the lack of Breaking power. Scary.
    Everything‘s fine until you’re in a situation and you can’t stop.
    Hydraulic brakes are not for me or my family. Take it slow. Start at the top of the Hill slow even embarrassingly slow. Keep the speed down. I don’t post much but I truly love everyone even if they’re not nice so be safe all.

  • @roberthamilton9245
    @roberthamilton9245 2 года назад

    From your reviews is the reason why we picked up a class a Diesel Pusher went down to Tampa Bay Florida picked it up from Lazy Days. Best buying experience ever!

  • @jeeper5264
    @jeeper5264 3 года назад +7

    More Super C Video's PLEASE...pretty please :)

  • @kennyburns3338
    @kennyburns3338 3 года назад +8

    Matt (and Andrea)
    You’re doing a lot of good for the RV community, and for those not yet a part of it!
    Personally, Partial to diesel pusher...
    Keep it up guys!!

    • @Dobermanator
      @Dobermanator 3 года назад

      I agree with you and one thing Matt mentioned is the interior finishing on diesel are typically solid, not thin light weight materials and that makes a difference if you plan ownership for a longer period imo. I think a trick might be for someone is to have a look at a 5 - 10 year old gas and a diesel and see for themselves how they wear inside.

  • @dougnval
    @dougnval 3 года назад

    I agree with all the factors stated in this vid except for fuel economy. I own a 2016 Coachmen 35BH w/v10 gas, and a 2017 Thor Aria 3901 w/360 Cummins Diesel. The gas RV gets 6.5mpg the diesel gets 10mpg. That is a massive difference if you multiply it across hundreds of gallons and/or thousands of miles traveled. The diesel eats less fuel and goes much further on a tank.

  • @lindahaughfrey5822
    @lindahaughfrey5822 3 года назад +1

    I love my Kountry Aire Diesel 38ft.
    I had a gas class A, smaller coachman
    It seemed it was made cheap

  • @MF-qt6ou
    @MF-qt6ou 3 года назад +11

    This is going to be so educational.

  • @victoriarice223
    @victoriarice223 3 года назад +5

    Appreciate all the information regarding gas and diesal motorhomes. Also, do appreciate your unbiased opinions.

  • @mamabar6811
    @mamabar6811 3 года назад

    Another thing people could do if they have their heart set on a diesel but can’t afford a new one, is to get a rig that’s a few years old. That way it’s had its shakedown trips and hopefully everything that came loose or wasn’t working properly is now fixed under the manufacturer’s warranty.

  • @borquein
    @borquein 3 года назад +1

    I had 2 gas class A Motorhome now I got my first Class A diesel pusher Motorhome RV I love my Rose Air By REXHALL on a Spartan chassis I now had it 2 days and I love her so much I love the glass engraving roses on the cabinets doors my mom pass away I keep her safe in the front cabinet on the top shelf we travel all over the place as much as possible thank you for all your awesome videos please let me know what I should do next thank you

  • @scottrushford2308
    @scottrushford2308 3 года назад +3

    Thank you so much Matt for doing the side by side comparisons. There is so much contradictory information out there and it was nice to get an unbiased perspective. My wife and I are in the research part of our journey to full time RVing and we love your show.

  • @leannkarpenske7256
    @leannkarpenske7256 3 года назад +8

    I loved the video. I really didn't know what the differences were. I love the way you explain things. Thanks, Matt!❤️

  • @joemilbourne3151
    @joemilbourne3151 3 года назад

    There is one point I would like to raise with you Matt.... to be really fair you should have tested the diesel pusher with the sound meter at the rear of the vehicle as close as you did with the gas vehicle !!

  • @gregmurray169
    @gregmurray169 3 года назад

    One more thought about this...it is MUCH easier to fuel up a diesel. Truck stops are plentiful with diesel lanes. Finding a place to fuel a 60-70ft gas rig (MH, 5ver, TT) is challenging.

  • @Over60sowhat
    @Over60sowhat 3 года назад +6

    Wow!! We've enjoyed all your videos, Matt and we give this one the highest score! Excellent job!!

  • @dearbulls
    @dearbulls 3 года назад +8

    Good review, Matt. I love you bringing them onto the road and compare the driving. Please do more for other models, and add more feelings, etc. Also, how the headlight performance at night? I love the look of these Entegra, but how do they perform in the real world at night or in heavy rains? Our whole family's life depending on the safety of the vehicle if we purchase a class A. I'd love to see how safe these class As are.

  • @BevDessert
    @BevDessert 3 года назад

    Sound advice. Are the upgrades that you want over what is needed worth the financial impact for the actual time you will use the RV? Full-time traveling vs Full-time at RV resort is another factor.
    Finding the perfect RV solution is as individual as buying the perfect Pair of Jeans.

  • @theoriginalcall888mrhandy8
    @theoriginalcall888mrhandy8 3 года назад

    AWESOME -HONEST - I usually do not watch your whole videos.Though this Video made me really Like and Appreciate your candor and honesty. Well said. Do not try to be the fanciest or be over burdened with payments. How much do you use it. Campgrounds are all Full , maxed out and Expensive, some over $ 100 a night, the average is about $79.00 a night. Factor this with maintenance , fuel , driving, payments, insurance and towing or renting a car when you get to your location. You can stay in 5 Star Two Bedroom Suite resorts the rest of your life every year. So if you are using the Motorhome at least 15-30 days a year. Go for it. If you are well off and money is no issue. Go for it. Though driving or sitting. They cost money. Great Video Matt. I now almost like you as much as A.S. Your about a Shasta away : - )

  • @bereniceforward461
    @bereniceforward461 3 года назад +4

    Dynamite information in a short period of time. Entertaining as always, thank you Matt!

  • @tammy3458
    @tammy3458 2 года назад +3

    Thanks so much for taking the time to make this comparison! I’m in the research phase of buying a motorhome & can’t decide between a diesel or gas motor! This helps a ton!!!

    • @dirtpeople3101
      @dirtpeople3101 Год назад +1

      Please let us know what your decision was. Thanks

  • @matthewkabbash
    @matthewkabbash 9 месяцев назад

    1000. For me it's the Formex. The Monta has an amazing unboxing. Formex lug to lug does it for me. The dial on the Formex chronometer etc

  • @Preachb52
    @Preachb52 10 месяцев назад

    great video. Being nearly 65 and wanting to buy my first RV, I really appreciate the subject matter.

  • @RT2Do
    @RT2Do 3 года назад +3

    Thank you so much for this video and overview!! Please do the Super C and A Pusher video!!! Nice job Matt! Have a great evening!

  • @n1njazx7
    @n1njazx7 3 года назад +24

    I wish you had brought safety items like air brakes and exhaust brake on the diesel. This let's you go down step hills with more confidence .

    • @capwkidd
      @capwkidd 3 года назад +1

      Exhaust breaks? Engine breaking?

    • @stephenf98
      @stephenf98 3 года назад +2

      @@capwkidd Yes diesels have them - hence the moe $$$ you pay for a diesel - hence more $$ for maintenance -

    • @directorjustin
      @directorjustin 3 года назад

      Do air brakes really give you a shorter stopping distance, though? Typically the tire grip is the limiting factor of an emergency stop.

    • @stephenf98
      @stephenf98 3 года назад

      @@directorjustin Of course tires are a factor in conjunction with your braking power - hence the bigger tires on a diesel pusher - or a tractor-trailer..

    • @n1njazx7
      @n1njazx7 3 года назад

      @@stephenf98 and also the weight of the Diesel RV plays a role in traction.

  • @makeitpay8241
    @makeitpay8241 2 года назад

    if you like going up hills slower than the rest of the traffic while getting passed be semi truck please get the gas engine. for everyone else get the diesel, you will be glad you did.

  • @EverettOKeefeJ
    @EverettOKeefeJ Год назад

    Matt, you mention you have another video where you go through 4 different levels of motorhome appointments. I can't find it though I searched through all your video listings. AND WOW you have done a TON of videos. Impressive!

  • @rickvance9460
    @rickvance9460 3 года назад +5

    They both get you from point A to point B
    So I think gas 🌬 is a great choice. Plus they are both equipped for comfort. Great video Matt. 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @ElizabethHernandez-mq7eh
    @ElizabethHernandez-mq7eh 3 года назад +3

    I want to see the super C comparison too!

  • @markbond6196
    @markbond6196 3 года назад

    So pretty simply put. If it's high miles more time in the RV. Diesel is the way to go. Short distance weekender, gas is the right move. Personally I like my diesel pusher because it's so quiet and smooth going down the road compared to a high revving gas engine under your arse...

  • @jasongraham8250
    @jasongraham8250 3 года назад

    I don’t call it miles per gallon, I call it smiles per gallon because you’re out having a good time.
    Salesman of the year right there folks.

  • @ganderoffroad5468
    @ganderoffroad5468 3 года назад +4

    Love the review of differences. Wpuld be nice to see a review about maintenance for rv's.

    • @jlarm3
      @jlarm3 3 года назад

      If his video showed maintenance shops, then you would really get pissed off!!! They are necessary evils, but I wouldn't give you a dime for any of them. All are SLOW, INEFFICIENT AND COSTLY!!!

    • @ganderoffroad5468
      @ganderoffroad5468 3 года назад +1

      @@jlarm3 not shops, like what things you should know about when you buy an rv. Like what you need to know about maintenance. On a rv , or travel trailer or 5th wheel. And what you should consider when you decide.

  • @luthersg
    @luthersg 3 года назад +4

    Great video! I have been looking for someone to do this comparison! I would love to have a diesel pusher but I just don’t think the cost is worth it for the amount of trips we will be taking. Also I think as far as on the road repairs, I think it will be a lot easier to find Ford dealers around to work on these motors if something goes wrong with it.

  • @lawdg8145
    @lawdg8145 3 года назад

    Matt .. wear your seat belt... people seem to think with a larger vehicle they are safer and don’t need it. That big windshield in front of you will feel really good as you go straight through it ... great video ..👍

  • @brinkee7674
    @brinkee7674 3 года назад

    I just love the someone can consider this camping. It better have a bidet

  • @johnbravo1235
    @johnbravo1235 3 года назад +5

    Has the Godzilla engine made any difference in getting a gas class A ?

  • @cheryljohnson4292
    @cheryljohnson4292 3 года назад +4

    I wish they made 22 23 foot class A
    Seems Diesel generators are loud

    • @stratman50th
      @stratman50th 3 года назад

      I have a diesel generator and it's pretty quiet. If I have it on while driving it's kind of a low rumble or hum on the inside. Outside might be a little louder than a diesel pickup idling, but not by much.

    • @jlarm3
      @jlarm3 3 года назад +1

      OK, here's the funny part. The smaller diesel gens (6KW) are louder than the larger ones (10-12.5KW). I think the larger ones operate at a lower RPM. If you get into the big Prevost conversions, they install those 20KW gens in a soundproof box and really quiet them down. (because they are liquid cooled). Also the diesel gens seem quieter because they generally are mounted up front in the nose, rather than near the rear by the bedroom.

    • @stratman50th
      @stratman50th 3 года назад

      @@jlarm3 This could be true. I have a 12.5 Onan Quietgen in the nose. It's a 3 cylinder, water cooled Kabota. Never really paid much attention to the smaller generators.

  • @chuckleingang7530
    @chuckleingang7530 3 года назад +1

    At this point we are in to towables but love your videos and watch and enjoy them.

  • @ChatGPT1111
    @ChatGPT1111 3 года назад

    Learned a lot even though I had a large Class A gas model (2014 Thor Outlaw) for many years. If we full time, its diesel for sure!

  • @MyRebel44
    @MyRebel44 3 года назад +9

    I’m looking for a gas motor home that I can full time in .

    • @tjztyger
      @tjztyger 3 года назад +1

      My parents full time in a 2005 Fleetwood Southwind with the 8.1L Chevy & Allison 5 speed. Been a good coach for them.

    • @traelee
      @traelee 3 года назад +2

      Check out the Entegras that Matt was showing in this video. We just bought a gas Vision XL and are really happy with the quality. We don't feel like we sacrificed much by not spending an extra 100K on a DP. Interior is very modern with no carpet, has solid counter tops, plenty of storage bays etc

    • @lindadurst2290
      @lindadurst2290 3 года назад +1

      We Full timed in our 2011 Fleetwood Bounder (Gas) for almost 5 years. Now we use it 4-6 months a year and it has worked well for us.

    • @stevest.martin3940
      @stevest.martin3940 3 года назад +2

      MyRebel44 buy a Tiffin with a floor plan you like hands down the best company only company still family owned

  • @micahiscool7441
    @micahiscool7441 3 года назад +3

    I like gas

  • @robbiemcvane1046
    @robbiemcvane1046 2 года назад

    My Diesel pusher gets 12.1 miles per gallon. Our V10 was 6/7 on a lot of down hills! Good video enjoyed! You were right on tag axle coach, 8 on rear with 2 drive tires! 10

  • @johnminnott7334
    @johnminnott7334 3 года назад

    Very good. No question that a diesel is best. But initial cost including tax and license (an additional 100K in cost over gasoline could cost an additional 10K in tax and license when purchasing) and maintenance (including fuel and tires, not to mention insurance) could end your travel plans. Like the man says, "If you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it."

  • @scottb4693
    @scottb4693 3 года назад

    Thanks for the honesty - agree that diesel overall better than gasser, but not worth the price (for my first rig). In the end, its about getting out and enjoying the journey! And making memories for a lifetime.

  • @uppersabinevalleyswmd9753
    @uppersabinevalleyswmd9753 3 года назад +1

    Matt, you say don't listen to my friends, but I think you're my friend. I'll just not take your advice this one time. Love what you are doing.

  • @jamesinman4344
    @jamesinman4344 3 года назад

    Great vid...as a truck driver I can attest to the cost of operating a Diesel engine... Especially a modern day diesel engine they are very complicated run on DEF and have very complicated emissions equipment on them... So based on what I know of today’s diesel engines I’d prefer Gas... Obviously the Diesel can pull more weight than the gas but the result will be the same either way lots of fun and good times...The Mrs. and I went with a gas engine

  • @josephinedittberner2670
    @josephinedittberner2670 3 года назад +1

    You are so right. Is all up to what is important to each buyer.

  • @manchesterrealty
    @manchesterrealty Год назад

    I like the fact you have expanded your subject matter. Thanks

  • @davek6653
    @davek6653 3 года назад +1

    Great video agree with you completely. We have a newmar canyon star and have liquid spring suspension on rear and will be putting on front here shortly. That gives us are diseal ride with much of the comforts of diseal amenities inside with a bunch of money left in the bank.

  • @d.nutter4950
    @d.nutter4950 3 года назад

    Hi Matt, we own a 2005 Winnebago Adventurer, and our experience is, on flat ground, we're happy. But when we went to Colorado, we really needed a diesel!

  • @paulmullen8228
    @paulmullen8228 Год назад

    One thing not mentioned is very often Diesel class A motor homes usually have air brakes which require a upgraded drivers license.

  • @WILDEBILL308
    @WILDEBILL308 3 года назад

    Great video. I am just to spoiled. We just spent the last 5 days in the Texas Hill Country near Kerrville. Camping in our Mountain Aire during near freezing weather. Some of the benefits you didn't mention for the diesel like how well it climbs hills, How nice the engine breaking is when going down hills and how nice the Oasis heat system is.
    Yes I have gone camping in a small gas coach. I think the gas coach is the way most people who arn't retired should be looking.

  • @lazarogonzalez1771
    @lazarogonzalez1771 3 года назад

    What I feel is that you are honest that is a great thing

  • @artillerybuff2000
    @artillerybuff2000 Год назад

    Great assessment. I have been RV'ing for 25 years now and have owned three large slide-in campers, three medium to very large 5th wheels, a gas Class A and one Diesel pusher with the big 8.3 Cummins. I've never personally owned but have used a Class C as well. Which is best? It depends on your individual needs. If I was full timing and it was my home, Diesel pusher all the way. We are not full timers and never spend more than 4 or 5 weeks in the RV at one time before returning to our house. We also like to bring our Harley's or other toys, so right now we have a 45' long toy hauler 5th wheel. If you can, rent one before buying one before you spend $$$$$$$.

  • @carlbeaver7112
    @carlbeaver7112 4 месяца назад

    Other considerations regarding diesels - cost of basic maintenance. 40 qt. oil changes, some with two filters ($85), oil ~$35/gallon x 8, fuel filters, air filter, coolant filter, etc. Can't take them to a quick lube for an oil change, truck stop or future appt. at a heavy truck shop. Trans fluid ~ $45 gallon x min. 4gal. Newer than 2012? DEF needed also, plus add in the cost of catalyst maintenance/repairs ($$$$ when they occur) and DEF fluid, along with the issues that system brings. Heavy Duty everything - brakes, suspension, air bags, yadda, yadda that come with heavy duty prices. Don't get me wrong, if you're planning on driving 15-20k miles/year, or more, the diesels are the ticket but you better have the ka-ching to pull it off. And let's face it, if you're driving that much you're just seeing a lot of highway and not so much enjoying what you're driving past.