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What's Going on With Shipping on FreightwavesTV Round Table Discussing Mississippi River Drought
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- What's Going on With Shipping on Freightwaves Round Table Discussing Mississippi River Drought
What's Going on With Shipping?
October 22, 2022
What's Going on With Shipping's Sal Mercogliano appeared on the Friday Freightwaves Now Round Table with host Bill Priestly and guest Patrick Chambers, Chief of Operations and Regulatory, Mississippi Valley Division of US Army Corps of Engineers to discuss the ongoing situation with the drought on the Mississippi River. They discussed what the Army Corps of Engineers and US Coast Guard are doing to address the situation and larger implications of the falling river levels on transportation of vital grain for transfer to bulk carriers along the Gulf of Mexico.
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I think people fail to understand that the Mississippi is what makes the USA a Superpower. More than 80% of the US's population is served by this great river.
Discovered your channel a couple weeks ago, this is just a great channel. Love trains, ships and transportation infastructure. Also good news and information for investors, different perspectives.
The great thing about Sal is that he can explain the shipping thing and the strangeness and its issues with normal words and make it understandable.
Absolutely! Sal is over the top. If you haven't found this channel on aviation you might like Maximus Aviation.
Hopefully we'll get rain soon! Thanks again for your coverage & hats off to the US Army Corps of Engineers....
I enjoyed listening to Patrick Chambers of the US Army Corp of Engineers and his explanation of the current drought conditions on the Mississippi and how tug draft sizes and tow sizes are being reduced to adapt to the Mississippi River lowering water level. Sal, Patrick and the interviewer, bad pun and all, did a great job in this vid. I’m confident we are in good hands listening to Patrick and let’s all hope this short sharp drought goes away and rain returns to end it. Enjoyed this vid and interview, it gave me a quick insight on shipping issues on the Mississippi River currently during this drought which is not my wheelhouse.
Sal should never be considered just "the other caller"....... Love your channel!!
“Dr. Sal” 👍👍👍
Yes there are a lot of bulkers stacking up down here. You can see them in my fishing vlogs when I am in the anchorage.
Today's video was a RUclips suggestion and a good one, glad I found your channel, most interesting, so far the Tennessee river here is OK as I see barges still on it but they are smaller groupings than the Mississippi ones and we have have a a little rain, hope that gets there to help down there.
Clearing waterways upstream to reduce flooding also makes it so that water drains out of the area and less flow when there is less rain.
TY!
Thanks Sal
“Toe jam” on the Mississippi! (LOL)
Tow jam...
Hi Sal! We have a solution, and it has been around for over 60 years. This study was approved by the Interior Department and it was produced by a well-known civil engineering firm, the Ralph Parsons Corporation. This plan includes every location you mentioned today, the Colorado, Fraser, Mississippi, and much of the stuff in between. It is called NAWAPA XXI, and you can find it right here on RUclips, About 20 minutes, I know it is worth it. Thanks, Sal, another good presentation! Capt. Mikey
Just 1 little problem the Great Lakes can NEVER ever be touched in any way. Also are you aware that these massive reservoirs will change the tilt of the earth as the 3 Gorgeous Dam system did.
Thank you for sharing this discussion Sal. Shifting some of the U.S. grain traffic to the Great Lakes can help, but traffic through the St. Lawrence would be limited. As I'm sure you know, the size of the merchants that would be utilized to move the grain and the retrograde moves of fertilizer are probably no larger than those moving through the Kersh channel between the Sea of Azov and Black Sea. Plus the Lake shipping season will close, possibly as early as mid-December depending on how quickly and thick the ice forms. Pray the Polar Vortexes hold off.
I grew up in Michigan, just south of Mackinaw near the port of Alpena. I believe the Coast Guard still only maintains one dedicated heavy duty Ice Breaker to cover all five Great Lakes. Once the ice gets thick enough to block traffic through the Strait of Mackinaw that's it, nothing further will move to or from ports in Illinois and Wisconsin to the St. Lawrence and the Atlantic.
Canada has two ice breakers on the lakes. Thunder Bay is a major grain terminal.
the Us coast guard has 3 and there are also private ice breakers
@@dknowles60 How many of those USCG icebreakers or the private ones are Heavy Duty ships? Only one that I am aware of, the USCGC Mackinaw is capable of handling heavy ice out of up to nine.
@@robertf3479 all can break ice the 1 private one i have seen can break ice
Just comments for the grist mill.
Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday forecasters are predicting large amounts of rain for the central Mississippi basin. Missouri, Arkansas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Illinois, Iowa.
Vancouver is very dependent on rail lines on the Fraser River. They are not the only rail lines, BNSF from Seattle and the ex BC Railway north to Squamish.
One other port under reconstruction Churchill, Mb. The First Nations bought this from another operator that was not maintaining it. They would like to put it back in operation and are spending the money to do so. (Ties, Ballast, Rails, local work force., etc).
Also look at the port of Stockton in California.
One of the nice things about shipping I've learned is there are always alternatives. You just have to throw away the box.
Oklahoma is forecast to receive up to four inches of rain starting Monday morning after much needed rain hopefully this will fill up our lakes and rivers sending some relief.
What a mess and just a few months back California was contemplating taking water from the Mississippi River. How delusional can the west possibly be, not knowing how important this river system is for national and international commerce. BTW great job Sal as usual...
Totally unrelated and wrong part of the country, but here in Oregon, Mt. Hood got 3 at MT hood meadows and 6" of snow mid way up mountain this weekend.
Many parts of the state still in varying degrees of drought status. We got .2 inches of rain from the storm that has stayed north. Most rain since June.
The traffic can't be shifted completely off the river, but rail could aument part of what needs to be moved. Multiple transportation options could help ease things somewhat. It would also help if the railroad companies would decide to treat their workers fairly so the strike pressure could be removed.
That is a controversy be elements of different oligopolies or monopolies.
Good luck with that, biggest trucker shortage and the railroaders are worried about safety not just getting sick days.
Extreamly important matter that man can’t fix.
You give simple explanation s even a simpleton like me can understand. We need a foundation thoo . the basics matter.
When they dredge a deeper channel does that not make the shoreline recede as well?
The river can be a mile wide, the 300 foot navigation channel being dredged to accommodate a 9 foot draft is conducted without adverse impacts to shore. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (USACE) also have created and invested in resentments, and other shoreline management measures to help manage erosion, sediment load to the river, and other structures to balance environmental conditions among recreation, flood risk management and navigation.
Saw the ready reserve roro/container ship that was docked by the USS Hornet, tied up at the container quay in the estuary today, that was suprising
Bottle water companies helping these droughts hugely
You have presence. That's not a easy thing to do.
Thanks!
Drought is not only in the U.S.
It's also in China, and I recently saw that reservoirs in highland Scotland, created in the 1930s to supply hydroelectric power, are down by more than 100 ft.
Funny, I envision Scotland as a perpetual wetland something like Seattle. *just looked it up. normal rainfall for Scotland is 73 inches. Thats DOUBLE that of Seattle.*
Human extinction is right around the corner
@@JustinWilliams-ed2ug this is what pumping c02 into the atmosphere ten times faster then the petm extinction event looks like.. abrupt climate change. Plenty have known what’s coming for decades now. Yt: speed of climate change, facts you wish weren’t true
@@JustinWilliams-ed2ug maybe in your area it’s only been happening the last 1-3 years but Africa, Australia, south west u.s. has been experiencing it much longer. Check out some other cc channels. There’s crazy flooding happening all around the world along with all these drought’s.
What does my name have to do with anything?
@@JustinWilliams-ed2ug I'm wondering where all the water's gone. Droughts in some areas are not being balanced by heavy rains in others.
Imagine how bad it would be without the Tenn-Tom right now.
Yep. Tenn-Tom can handle more traffic, just can't take the massive size barge floats. Port of Mobile would welcome it!
I wouldn't worry too much about taking water from the Mississippi and diverting it to the Colorado. Everything I've seen so far is just a bunch of crackpots who are unfamiliar with high tech engineering concepts like .... say .... gravity.
LOL. I have the solution. Use hydroelectric installed on the Colorado R to power the pumps to lift the water from the Miss to the Colorado. Easy!
@@rpbajb Quod erat demonstrandum. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Better question, how do humans survive without water?
I mean how is this possible?? Its autumn all across the northern hemisphere.. why there is so much drought? Climate change?? But still..
Why is the audio so out of sync?
This is the feed from Freightwaves so I did not do the primary recording.
The August 2021 NOAA historical rainfall-change map duplicates the elevation maps of the US. Has that pattern changed this year? The eastern half is wetter, and the west is dryer? Capt. Mikey's reference (below) to NAWAPA XXI is very interesting, and it projects the American Group economic vitality that Peter Zeihan's been advocating. Silt control, rather than Army Corps' continual remediation, sounds daunting for designers. Surely the Intracoastal Waterway from Rhode Island to Mexico can use a great seawall barrier of reinforced silt and scrub for hurricane moderation and for chemical runoff recovery, and for restoring US seafood industries. But ponding for silt deposition and water storage can't result in malarial swamp for snakes and gators. Fish farms maybe, but that's more runoff hazard. AG buffers need as much attention as NAWAPA does.
In the know? What this information mean forecasting into the next year or two?
River levels are at the whim of the weather in the Midwest. If there is a big snow fall and spring thaw, and then fall rains. If not, low water is the issue.
The long-range drought monitor is showing that the Midwest of the US is returning back to the "dust bowl" days of the 1930s again
@@almirria6753 That's what the chemtrails are doing
@@cdubb642 How wrong you are on that. Back in the 1800's you could walk across the Mississippi River in various locations without getting your feet wet.
This is a natural cycle of flood & drought cycles. and not every that happens in nature is man made. Nature is NOT static, but changes all the time.
Next year or two would be higher commodity prices. That's what people can expect.
Sal all this dredging of the river what kind of Environmental problems could it cause
And euphrates river
Making way for the kings of the east. All things are being prepared for Maranatha. Keep the oil full and the light burning.
After the system that is dumping inches of rain on the upper Mississippi and Missouri watersheds, problem solved
Soon now a loaf of bread will cost a days wage...hmmm?🤔
Under Joe SpongeBrain Shitpants that's happening either way.
But soon a full day's wages won't be worth the same on the following day. Welcome to Bidenflation same as the Weimar Republic hyper-inflation of post WW1 Germany.
@@lightweight1974 He's only a puppet on a stick. Our problems go much deeper than any individual could possibly be responsible for. World affairs are not decided by the so called leaders. They each play a part to further divide the citizens one against the other. Both sides have done a fine job in destroying any trust that once existed in this society. Looking to human beings to resolve all the problems we human beings have caused is akin to pouring gasoline on a fire to extinguish it. In all honesty we have each been a part in some way of the world becoming what it is today. Broken marriages, abuse, hatred, avarice, lies told in business. The list could go on and on, but hopefully you get the picture from the brief list above...
We've all become distracted and can't see clearly to truly understand what our problem is. Its us!
I question the claim of drought. I really want to see the relevant data for the last three decade instead of listening to hearsay.
@@ScottSigman_Londonship Thank you!
I think the problem lies with who do you think controls the weather? YEHOVAH controls how much rain you get. Not climate change or global warming. He said you will bow down and worship HIM before it's all over with. He will put in us a new heart and then we will be glad and we will be His people and He will be our God
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You do realize you are right and wrong as YEHOVAH sets in place the laws of nature. If climate change occurs then it occurs by the will of YEHOVAH. Have faith that all thing occur according to HIS will.
No one sent a memo to mother nature for more rain -
You can have some of ours, it's rained nearly every single day this year on the eastern seaboard of Australia. Even as I write this it's pouring.
Prayer to the God who controls the rain
I once heard of this thing called a rail road.
A 15 barge tow can carry the equivalent of 214 rail hopper cars. Most towboats push up to 40 barges south of the locks at St Louis. RR just don't have the capacity of towboats and barges.
To observers of hyper-heating a planet many times faster than extinctions what goes are glaciers, freshwater "batteries" that supply off-season flow as a source is all gone in 50yrs, very few glaciers aren't melted away today.
That's all that's going on, warm oceans cause most extinctions, few were asteroids.
In the Himalaya farmers freeze stream water into "ice stupas" in fall placed to melt early spring for crops due to this loss of glacial ice.
Just cool the oceans back down, how about party ice everybody knows it's cold, eh ?
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You know , because of the effects of climate change, a long term solution might be to build a series of dams and locks in the lower Mississippi . To be used I times of drought and low water.
pretty flat (flood plains) in many areas = would need huge amount of material to build up river sides . Plus much of the flood plain is farmed.
Birth Pangs!
Comment for your commentators: if I knew I wouldn't be watching this show. STOP SAYING "YOU KNOW" every four or five words. It is very annoying. Otherwise very interesting and informative.
I will work on it.