Excellent video great job information too. I have the TPC 4070 can I use a max 5 or max 6 ESC to run in a new speed build? And what is would be minimum ESC and your recommendation. I do have a 8s cap pack. Thanks soo much
I have had a few TP 4070 motors and run them on the Max 6 ESC and this ESC whilst solid cant handle these motors as it just cant deliver the amounts of current these motors crave. If you want to max out these motors then the XLX2 is the only way to go👍
I had a Neu 1515 2.5d (1600kv) in a Gorillamax chassis e converted revo (way before the E revo) using a Quark 125 car esc and 6s lipos, it was freakishly powerful (I was breaking pinion shafts on 1/8 scale diff setups). I can verify Neu doesn't play, these are the motors the Castle motors are based on
I still have one of the 2650kv Neu-Castle motors in box . I've had it for years as a backup for the first one . Still haven't killed tho having run dumb gearing or 6s at it and still survives . Even pushed an infraction to 104 with it! I would buy a plunger from Steve Neu if he designed it!
@@coffeedude2024, The castle version are unfortunately still made in China using their own facilities, it's the design they licensed from Neu, I am pretty sure Neu Motors are at least assembled in the USA
Would love to see you do some testing of the new TP 4080CM 2022kv motor and put it up against the Castle 1721 2400kv motor. Maybe a few speed runs and bench tests. Keep up the great content!👍
Can I run a 3s battey on these RTR rc car electronic specs? Esc- 50A hobbywing esc Motor- 3650, 3300KV brushless motor. I want to know if I can run it on 3s just to get a little more speed out of my rc car and pop some wheelies.
Hi I currently deciding on if the tp 2200kv 4070cm would be good or a castle 1717 1650kv? Want to lightly bash with it too in the arrma limitless with the MMX8s esc
I would recommend 4070cm 2200KV or castle 1721 2400KV with the XLX2 ESC. I have personally ran the 1717 1650KV with the MMX8S and although it is good, it also has more limitations, in my opinion.
I'm on a tight budget so it's surpass hobby motors for me... I'm definitely in the sub 100 mph club & I'm alright with that. I find speed running at 70-80 mph on Scottish single track roads is a very thrilling thing to do.!! It brings in suspension tuning a bit more to be able to handle the decidedly uneven & bumpy roads.! 😂 😂 😂
Can you wire 2 motors in parallel or series and drive them off one controller? What about double up the pack in parallel to keep the voltage from sagging during the run?
@@RCexplained it will be a drag set up. So I'm thinking with both motors working together they won't draw to high of an amperage in unison. Plus I will be adding cap packs. Thanks for the response
Leopard hobby motors have the most bang for your buck, while German Lehner motors have the best performance I have ever seen. They are very expensive though.
Dude I've heard that lately, you're not the only one by farThe really REALLY used to be like the Bugatti of RC motors, though. I've heard multiple people saying shafts are just twisting in half, rotors exploding....not something I'd ever thought I would see from Lehner of all people. I really hope they get it back together because they really have some of the highest potential. No excuse for that kind of quality control issues anywhere close to this price point. I haven't even dealt with that off GoolRC or Surpass in years. Sad.
Thankyou for the interesting video. Just wondering how we find out the torque output of these electric motors? I don't understand why Manufacturers don't put the torque output for a given voltage. It would be so handy to know. Automobile manufacturers list the horsepower and torque on their vehicles engines.
True, I was wondering why they maintain the same can length for these varying stator sizes. Perhaps low volume sales on these massive motors makes it worth sticking to one case part number?
Can I ask you a question? I cannot seem to find anyone to answer this. I want to try to get 70 to 85 mph out of a Traxxas UDR. it weighs around 13 to15 pounds. It's big and the stock set up does about 40 mph. You can get 45 mph by changing the pinion. You cannot go crazy different size pinions or spurs. I want to switch motors an esc out. There is not much room in this truck.And TP 4070 and a Castle 1721 with just fit with a over hang on back end and very close to drive shaft. So which motor and kv? The truck is set up for only a 6S. But you can get a way by adding a 2S to it so you get the 8S. Very sorry if I ask to much. Thank you
@@RCexplained Thank you. I went another route. I contacted Castle and TP techs. They help me. Both companies told me what motor. And specs. And I didn't have to spend $3.00. Thank you again.
Your "they help me" "and I didn't have to spend $3.00" "thank you thank you" comment is extremely passive aggressive. Expecting the guy who has no products to sell you, owes you exact product specific help after watching his free video and having access to his free website after giving you free help in a RUclips comment is truly mind blowing. Very well done and a first on this channel.
I have an Erevo 2.0 and I have had the TP 4070cm both 2200kv and 2700kv motors. Both are great but the TP 2200kv on 8s is monstrous. I have just got the new TP Power 4080cm 2022kv motor which is a larger and more powerful version of the 4070 series. Not run it yet but I expect good things from this motor. I run all my motors on the Castle XLX2 ESC.
Excellent video great job information too. I have the TPC 4070 can I use a max 5 or max 6 ESC to run in a new speed build? And what is would be minimum ESC and your recommendation. I do have a 8s cap pack. Thanks soo much
I have had a few TP 4070 motors and run them on the Max 6 ESC and this ESC whilst solid cant handle these motors as it just cant deliver the amounts of current these motors crave.
If you want to max out these motors then the XLX2 is the only way to go👍
You can use a smaller ESC than recommended, however, if you push it too hard you are risking blowing it up.
I've always been curious, tp link4070 cm is for 6-8s, but couldn't one operate it on 3 or 4s as well?
You can yes, there is a different Kv motor in the 4070 series better suited for 4s.
I had a Neu 1515 2.5d (1600kv) in a Gorillamax chassis e converted revo (way before the E revo) using a Quark 125 car esc and 6s lipos, it was freakishly powerful (I was breaking pinion shafts on 1/8 scale diff setups). I can verify Neu doesn't play, these are the motors the Castle motors are based on
I have heard that Neu makes Castle motors. I think neu motors are still the gold standard motors but they are pricey.
Neu Motors are solid motors!
I still have one of the 2650kv Neu-Castle motors in box . I've had it for years as a backup for the first one . Still haven't killed tho having run dumb gearing or 6s at it and still survives . Even pushed an infraction to 104 with it! I would buy a plunger from Steve Neu if he designed it!
@@coffeedude2024, The castle version are unfortunately still made in China using their own facilities, it's the design they licensed from Neu, I am pretty sure Neu Motors are at least assembled in the USA
Would love to see you do some testing of the new TP 4080CM 2022kv motor and put it up against the Castle 1721 2400kv motor. Maybe a few speed runs and bench tests.
Keep up the great content!👍
Thanks for the comment Grant! I am limited with weather and opportunity to get to the few places I can run at over 100mph but it sure would be fun!
Can I run a 3s battey on these RTR rc car electronic specs?
Esc- 50A hobbywing esc
Motor- 3650, 3300KV brushless motor.
I want to know if I can run it on 3s just to get a little more speed out of my rc car and pop some wheelies.
Hi I currently deciding on if the tp 2200kv 4070cm would be good or a castle 1717 1650kv? Want to lightly bash with it too in the arrma limitless with the MMX8s esc
I would recommend 4070cm 2200KV or castle 1721 2400KV with the XLX2 ESC. I have personally ran the 1717 1650KV with the MMX8S and although it is good, it also has more limitations, in my opinion.
The 1717 1650Kv motor would be more suited to light bashing. The 4070CM is a high performance motor.
Absolutely fantastic video! I just got a TP 4070 and I'm absolutely stoked to see what it can do!
Hope you enjoy it!
I'm on a tight budget so it's surpass hobby motors for me...
I'm definitely in the sub 100 mph club & I'm alright with that.
I find speed running at 70-80 mph on Scottish single track roads is a very thrilling thing to do.!!
It brings in suspension tuning a bit more to be able to handle the decidedly uneven & bumpy roads.! 😂 😂 😂
Same, their sensored motors are pretty good
What's a good surpass motor for 6s
Can you wire 2 motors in parallel or series and drive them off one controller?
What about double up the pack in parallel to keep the voltage from sagging during the run?
Not recommended to wire 2 motors to an ESC. You can use multiple packs of equal cell counts in parallel.
@@RCexplained I want to see a special setup. 3 ESC's, one for each motor connection.
That's not how it works. Nothing would happen.
Another great video
I appreciate that
Cool info 👍 Question, whats the most rpm you have got out of a brushed and brushless motor?
Brushed, I'm unsure. Brushless on the 1721, i saw just around the 80k mark unloaded.
I have two TP 2950kv motors on a dual setup using MM8s for each motor. Do you think they will supply enough power for these motors?
It's a vague question. The setup can work if you don't push the ESC's too hard.
@@RCexplained it will be a drag set up. So I'm thinking with both motors working together they won't draw to high of an amperage in unison. Plus I will be adding cap packs. Thanks for the response
Leopard hobby motors have the most bang for your buck, while German Lehner motors have the best performance I have ever seen. They are very expensive though.
I brought a lehner motor and it lasted one week didn’t even run it hard and they didn’t even honor the warranty smh I don’t think they worth the money
Dude I've heard that lately, you're not the only one by farThe really REALLY used to be like the Bugatti of RC motors, though. I've heard multiple people saying shafts are just twisting in half, rotors exploding....not something I'd ever thought I would see from Lehner of all people. I really hope they get it back together because they really have some of the highest potential. No excuse for that kind of quality control issues anywhere close to this price point. I haven't even dealt with that off GoolRC or Surpass in years. Sad.
From what I’ve seen the last few yrs t.p seem to be everyone favorite….I’ve brought about 9 of them think I’m gonna try the neu for my felony
What motor would you suggest for a dual motor hobao speed car 179-180 mph?
I love the 1721.
can you do a similar video for marine rc engines....thanks!!!
Thankyou for the interesting video.
Just wondering how we find out the torque output of these electric motors?
I don't understand why Manufacturers don't put the torque output for a given voltage.
It would be so handy to know.
Automobile manufacturers list the horsepower and torque on their vehicles engines.
The numbers correspond to stator sizes, in the longest 133mm can they offer 3 different length stators: 3.3", 3.6" & 3.9"
True, I was wondering why they maintain the same can length for these varying stator sizes. Perhaps low volume sales on these massive motors makes it worth sticking to one case part number?
@@RCexplained I think that's it
Would it hurt if I run a 2S battery in my 6S OUTCAST ?
So my grandson can play it.
If 2s meets the ESC's minimum voltage, you should be good.
I did 155mph on 4s with 1721 2400kv in a 1/8
What about the MGM motors im hearing they top motors
Can I ask you a question? I cannot seem to find anyone to answer this. I want to try to get 70 to 85 mph out of a Traxxas UDR. it weighs around 13 to15 pounds. It's big and the stock set up does about 40 mph. You can get 45 mph by changing the pinion. You cannot go crazy different size pinions or spurs. I want to switch motors an esc out. There is not much room in this truck.And TP 4070 and a Castle 1721 with just fit with a over hang on back end and very close to drive shaft. So which motor and kv? The truck is set up for only a 6S. But you can get a way by adding a 2S to it so you get the 8S. Very sorry if I ask to much.
Thank you
I'm not familiar with that vehicle. Run the specs in an RC Calculator and you will get an estimation of speed potential.
@@RCexplained May I ask where is this RC Calculator?
@@Airbrushkid I have one on the patreon website. Should be a link in the description. Or the radiocontrolinfo website.
@@RCexplained Thank you. I went another route. I contacted Castle and TP techs. They help me. Both companies told me what motor. And specs. And I didn't have to spend $3.00. Thank you again.
Your "they help me" "and I didn't have to spend $3.00" "thank you thank you" comment is extremely passive aggressive. Expecting the guy who has no products to sell you, owes you exact product specific help after watching his free video and having access to his free website after giving you free help in a RUclips comment is truly mind blowing. Very well done and a first on this channel.
I have an Erevo 2.0 and I have had the TP 4070cm both 2200kv and 2700kv motors. Both are great but the TP 2200kv on 8s is monstrous.
I have just got the new TP Power 4080cm 2022kv motor which is a larger and more powerful version of the 4070 series. Not run it yet but I expect good things from this motor. I run all my motors on the Castle XLX2 ESC.
The tp power are powerful indeed, but draw way to much Amps. I find the leopard hobby to be the best bang for your buck motors.
Nice setups Grant!