Nitrous Oxide VS Toy Engines
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The problem is that with increased oxidisation you need to also increase the amount of fuel, else it effectively starves of combustible material and ceases running.
Or decrease the amount of nitrous like he said
Needs a wet shot too..........
You are essentially squiring an oxygen expander into the cylinder so by not increasing the fuel in a proportional amount you are leaning out the engine and it will stop.
@Darren L shut up
Lol you mate, have beaten me to telling him, I was gonna say that it requires different nozzles per engine to balance the fuel/oxygen ratio. Also that he has to control the amount of nitrous he gives it.
I didn't know my mom was into engine's also, she has a nitro tank like that.
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When you use the nos you have to put also extra fuel to deal with all that extra air that's nos works
Yeah that’s what I was saying
Nothing like a good ole super lean blow up. Lol
Fuel injections?
Is that why in street outlaws no one goes nos and turbo?
u mean Nitrous Oxide not nos nos is Nitrous Oxide system i dont think u want that in ur engine haha
Why seems everybody to think you just have to blow the NO in the engine? Its totally useless until you add an extra amount of fuel which will react with the oxygen gained from the NO...
Not true. A small “dry” shot is pure NO2 in the intake.
Wet and direct ports usually will self compensate with fueling or tuning.
I use to run a small 75 dry shot on my car long ago before I jumped to a 150 wet shot and blew it up. Lol
It’s an equal opportunity power and broken parts maker.
@@DirtNastyCivilian thats awesome lol. How does the nose work I thought its job was, like a turbo, to make more oxygen available in combustion.
I thought you still need to give it more fuel to burn the extra efficiently and make more powaaahh
@@rajgill7576 NO2 is an oxidizer on its own. I imagine besides the lower Intake temps and the oxidation that happens under the pressure and combustion splits the molecule rendering more oxygen. Sure you can improve the nitrous by adding fuel with it making the whole situation more efficient but on its own it does work I can personally attest to this.
Also note I have no formal chemistry knowledge out of high school. I’m all most positive I’m right but willing to be wrong on this lol.
@@DirtNastyCivilian the ass of your pants is enough evidence sometimes I can attest to this haha
@@rajgill7576 huge facts. A 50 shot in a 99 civic si was noticed lol
You should read about Dry and Wet Nitrous systems. A "wet" system would be the solution when dealing with a non fuelinjected setup like yours. Happy tuning!
You're supposed to be at WOT when you hit the nitrous.
By restricting the nozzle size, you are in effect increasing the pressure. You need some sort of regulator on there to reduce the pressure coming out of the tube.
You also need to increase the fuel at the same time as you inject the NOS which will be difficult since model engines don't use fuel pumps.
Can't increase pressure with a small nozzle. Just can't be done. I have plenty small engines using either fuel pumps or impulse pressure. You should see a chainsaw go on nitro!
There goes the eyebrows 🤪 @ 4:16
Lol
Maybe you can use a air restriction valve from an aquarium air pump to make the flow ajustable. These ones you can screw in and out to adjust the diameter of the hole.
Put a small fuel nozzle in line with the nitrous so it pulls it when you hit the nitrous, it’ll give it a little more enrichment, plus using nitrous on a nitro car is kind of redundant since nitromethane also carries an oxygen molecule just like nitrous oxide.. check out the chemical bond N20 and CH3N02
Steep looks like he should be on the cover of the GQ magazine 😂
Kev, I think you should try a Low Pressure Regulator from an old paintball gun. This would act as a 2nd chamber for the NOS pressure to be adjusted and tuned
I think your the first to put a hit and miss engine on the bottle ! Lmao this was awesome
The only thing going to the Moon is the piston 🤣😂
look at the diy soda blaster .. the same method can be used to add extra fuel with the nos making it a wet shot. ( basically make a y fitting at the end of the nos line so the nos goes straight out and causes a suction on the extra input . which you add a line to a fuel tank
Came across your channel a few days ago, love it mate! Can’t stop watching 😂
Imagine on the clear head engine if it would go so fast that the glass would break
This is exactly what a guy could want on a Wednesday
Or Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday.
I love the spirit and their sense of humor.
you will need to rejet the carbs to allow for more fuel to take advantage of the Nitrous.
RC carbs are generally adjusted by a needle/needles (like what he did in the video) & not replacing jets.
I just saw this video and didn't read all of the replies here but since the fuel is methanol based and percentage of nitro already in the fuel basically adding additional NOS is starving the oxygen out of the combustion that is already in the fuel .
That is one reason that one of the highest nitro ratios is already at 40 percent .
Usually when over the 40% is when the fuel to oxygen level is peaking to uncombustible levels .
The only other way is to use the same nitrous fuel is to lean the dog out of it and pressurize the fuel .
That is how it was done in the control line airplanes to set world records back in the 50s and 60s .
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@@TheRCBasher69420 nice flex lmao
I had that twice
both motors are absolutely awesome! I really do like that old style engine with the 2 wheels on each side. That is just way super cool!
No idea kits like this existed! Awesome content Kev!
Bro banggood has literally everything.
Yes kevin I was waiting since you said it was going to happen put it on a rc car aswell
Nitro on the baha, I got 3 possibly 8 channel remote with my first 30.5 cc rovan baha. Gives me room for extra. If you don't I probably will. Those nitro set ups are realistically cheap. My first rc car and I'm ready to try it!
The things that Kev does to get his vids done I loving it more than MC donalds
You have a new engine coming for the raminator...give the stock one hell.
Dude the engines liked it for sure, could hear the rev up without any throttle application. Very cool
Been loving these engine videos 😂👍
@@ToyotaCamry-xd4mo yep I know that's why I edited it
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Definitely need to be able to adjust the pressure of the NOS somehow.
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Warped perception did this. Both are great videos.
This is my kind of therapy
Lol!!.. 'Abuse!'.. Did anyone else wonder where Kev was going with that NOS .. 😁
When you place the nitrous directly up to the intake it no longer takes in normal air.
lol i seriously thought i was watching Colin furze until I saw your face haha! Great vid
Yeah sound like Colin fuze accent:v
I’ve been waiting for one of these videos! Amazing video!
Typically if you put nitrous in a engine you need to give it more timing for it to run correctly
Kev it is because adding the nos adds air to the mixture and leans out the fuel. So it makes it oxygen rich and not fuel rich.
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1. Your right, nitrous does require a proper ratio of fuel to be added. To rich or lean it won't sustain combustion. Common misconception is that nitrous burns, its only an oxidizer
2. your flowing to much in general, you can never put a "5000hp shot" on small motor. Your manifold pressure starts to equal, or even exceed, ambient. Nitrous back fires become very likely.
I dont know if there is a laser that can drill a small enough hole in a jet for the amount you need, thats the trouble with small engines haha.
Get u a pull of this guys. On A traditional nos. System, extra fuel under pressure is shot with the nos. With 2 separate solenoids into a mixing plate or fogger nozzle. Not to mention usually, for best performance, have engine at or over half throttle. GIVE THAT A GO
That NOS vibe should be called the gusher
Really wanna see one of those tiny engines blow up
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I'm sure it's been said but the nitrous oxide is just a force oxygen supply. You need to feed fuel with it on the correct air/fuel ratio for the engine.
My wife to our kids:
"Dont touch my NOS canister!!"
More fuel....nos kits usually have 2nd fuel just for the spray...
Unless it’s a dry kit like this. Just ritchen the carb and blast it.
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Just wanted you too know if this is helpful or not I’m pretty sure a horizon hobby ad has a piece of your video on it when you did the 101 mph car and it was the dark blue fracas I forgot what it was called but I hope this is helpful like your videos keep it up.
Those little canisters are alot more fun when you hook them up to your air supply...lol
Ever wonder why on a car with nitrous the throttle body plate that the nitrous line and solenoid is plumbed to also has a a seperate line with its own solenoid? That "extra line" is a fuel line, so when the nitrous is hit, extra fuel is sprayed into the throttle body along with the nitrous. That is because nitrous carries with it extra oxygen, meaning with nitrous alone the engine would run super lean. That extra fuel being sprayed in simultaneously is supposed to offset that, but just like tuning the carb to have the perfect amount of fuel to air so it isn't running too rich or too lean, that extra bit of fuel will require the same level of tuning to match the nitrous.
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How many engines
Didn’t the nitrous oxide come with a small nozzle kev?
Man the nitro shape looks so sus
I’m just here to read the comments from the thumbnail
Really enjoying your variety of hobbies kev
I thought this was a Collin Furze (I think that's the right way to spell it), video. I mean they sound 100% Identical
They sound nothing alike
Don't forget, NOS will purge the fuel out of the 'carburetor' so you always need pressurized fuel, and if you arent running it more than a second or two, you need a lot more fuel! Bur start with pressurized fuel man :)
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Cool lets see what happens.:)
Also love the videos Kev.
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You should put like like 4 of those in your ramanator
KT... I see a lot of comments with nobody really knowing why. The EXTRA fuel in a nitrous system is not for fuel, its to cool the engine. The rules are diffrent for these model engines your using. Although simple, nitrous does not make more RPM, it makes more power. Your engine is stopping because you are "knocking" the engine. I could explain all of this, but there will be tons of comments to follow this how i am wrong from people who read something wrong, and keep it going.
Without a load on the motors, you will not see the perks. The motor hits its max RPM without nitrous. With more wet fuel it will either "knock" and kill power, or "knock" so hard it will stall the engine. Retarding and advancing timing is a way to control the burn of fuel, but nothing stops the burning, so with too much, you stall. If you drive a standard transmission, this will make sense.
I could go on, but a youtube comment would not help much. I dont know what you wanted to see from your experiment, but everything did like it was supposed to.
man kev is on fire! all these videos i cant keep up
Hi Kev great vid
Crazy thing but use a can of that desk dust off spray. It’s flammable and will make your engine go crazy
You don't necessarily need your engine tu run rich, but rather maintain the stoichiometric ratio inside the combustion chamber. You need to add extra gasoline with the nitrous to account for the extra oxigen.
It should work because it’s like putting nitrous into a car
you need to add fuel. you're just adding air which leans it out until there isnt enough fuel to support the combustion. the reason you can add say a 150 shot into a stock modern system (before it blows up) is because the car is constantly monitoring air/fuel ratio so when it sees it getting lean with the added air (nitrous) it automatically tries to keep up by pulsing injectors more to add more fuel until it cant keep up anymore. this is called a dry nitrous system. this is still really dangerous not only because a stock engine isnt set up to run the extra power, rings need extra clearance, piston to wall needs a little extra clearance depending on how much nitrous, but it also gets lean and hot which causes denotation and a cylinder to foul. in a race engine or engine built for nitrous usually a fuel solenoid is added to the nitrous solenoid (wet nitrous system) to offset the added air intake.
What happened, no carnage . I expected engine parts all over the place.
You could probably make the nitro crawler absolutely crazy
I own this kit myself they sell different Reed valves that changes the amount of nitrous released from what I seen in the video you need smaller valve that releases way less pressure.
The process was never designed to go directly into the engine - try making the o2 intake hose longer and connect the nos in a T valve so it can still pull in enough oxygen.
I would also try injecting while you gradually increase the RPMs - it's all about ensuring the combustion and pistons can keep up. Otherwise the air will just put out the flame - as you saw with the glass top.
Its lean poping. It needs more fuel. Or a smaller NOS jet.
Someone needs to build a EFI system for those Toyan engines
What nitrous allows you to do is burn more fuel in the same bit of space which allows you to get more power you're letting most of these engines idle too you need to wrap them all the way out so maximum fuel was being dumped in there and then hit it Also maybe turn the mixture knob really rich
@4:42: If you give it NoS must also give it extra fuel. And the intakes are way to restricted to rev up!
You sound like dollar store collinfurze, and I love it
NOS is just a way of having more oxygen in your cylinder, so you have to put more gas to actually use that oxygen ;) for a start you can try to run your engine very rich, full throttle, and add the nos
I gotta say kevin.. ive never seen a hit n miss on smurf juice thats funny af;)
smurf juice haha
In addition to extra fuel in order to see if the NO is making any difference the engine has to be under constant adjustable load. The increase in rpm is just due to leaning out the mixture.
Strangest NOS canister I've ever seen!
Kev put a nos in an rc car and measure the acceleration and speed with nos and without nos
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Imagine putting that nitrous in a 2srtoke blower
I would try to regulate that pressure coming out of the nitro. Feeding into the air intake might do that a little.
Gotta fatten the air fuel mixture up. It's leaning the motor out toooo much.... unless you trying to BLOW it up 😂😂
I really enjoy your videos Kev my fav vids to watch on youtube!!!!
When is the big Losi coming back?
You’re adding extra oxygen but not adding any more fuel therefor causing it to burn lean, note the colour of the flame on the see through engine when the nitrous is added. You need to add extra fuel with it.
Air fuel is too lean. Try making the engine super rich before hitting the switch. Maybe you could retrofit a 2nd carb with the throttle at 100% and the fuel restricted until the switch is hit?
This guy sounds very much like Colin Furze, almost the same amount of energy as well
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Turbo the engines with one of those key chain turbos. It probably wouldn’t work but it’s worth a try
Add turbo to this!
I bought one of those engines when they were first released and hasn't ever started since out of the box