my perspective on this is simply "you don't need to bang or even date plus sized people, but don't demean, bully, or define one's character on the basis of their size"
Also just because she is losing weight doesn't mean she wants to be skinny she said it was for inflammation like in the videos she is still pluss sized just trying to eat more healthy
I made an anti-inflammation diet after I got food poisoned and it's meant to heal the gut, not lose weight. I didn't have to control my portions or anything, just eat a bit cleaner, avoid ultra processed foods and stuff that gives you gases (like raw veggies, dairy and beans). Those foods were reintroduced gradually as my IBS got better.
@@mercy4304 There are no foods proven to reduce inflammation. However, losing weight is indeed shown in multiple studies to improve systematic inflammatory markers found in one's blood. The only thing found in food that MAY be helpful is Omega 3 PUFAs. It's not clear-cut, but the evidence is either neutral of positive, so it's good to increase those Omega 3's. But yes, if your gut has problems, avoiding foods that cause flair-ups is indeed helpful against localized inflammation (which is a perfectly valid goal. But localized inflammation isn't necessarily connected too much to long-term health outcomes. Nobody's dying from having inflamed muscles from a workout). Your systematic markers likely won't change much unless you're exercising more and/or losing weight. But taking off the "uhm, ackshually" soapbox, I'm glad you're allowing more vitamins, minerals and nutrients into your diet. Those are all good to have. And I completely relate to your IBS troubles. FODMAPs are hell on the system sometimes.
@the-postal-dude yeah I think it's because she said the diet word but not all diets are too lose weight heck there are some wich are meant to gain weight if people are severly underweight
I was disappointed that you didn’t mention how the body positivity movement started to begin with is because anyone considered “too fat” and thus automatically assumed to be “a lard cow who wants to die” are being endlessly harassed into suicidal ideation. It’s not about how “YOU HAVE TO BE FAT TO BE POPLAR BLLAARRRGGGHHH!! WE HATE BEING HEALTHY!!” It’s “We don’t deserve to be told to die just because we might be fat, we are still human beings.” It’s why the people who are ridiculing her for adding a little food change are doubling down, it’s not about being healthy. It’s about dehumanizing people who are “too fat”, and bullying them into being skinny. The implication that the harassment being received by fat people is just “them being told they need to be healthy” is absolutely stupid. Some people do need to manage weight, but trying to frame it as “See she wants to be better, see she might loose some weight snd thus automatically be healthier.” Is a very unfortunate implication to set.
True. A big part of the reason body positivity is a thing people are so sensitive about is not because fat people are criticized. It's because they are dehumanized. For years, television depicted fat people as shameless gluttons with no self awareness who disgust or inconvenience everyone around them, and they very idea of a fat person daring to view themselves as desirable was comically absurd or seen as revolting. Growing up I couldn't even let anyone touch or hug me because all I could ever think was how disgusted they must be to be touching me. These depictions not only destroy self esteem, but they normalize the dehumanization which just reinforces the demeaning way fat people are treated in real life. I think it's absolutely fair to say some people in the body positive movement have lost the plot if they ever choose to harass anyone for losing weight or deny all health concerns, but the movement itself started and is still just trying to defend itself from absolutely vicious amounts of harassment and vitriol. Someone being fat is no ones business but that person, yet society raised these people up as 'acceptable targets' for mockery and that's just not okay. This is absolutely not an issue of people just being 'concerned for their health', and the mockery that this model received even by people who were telling her to lose weight shows that it was never about health concerns in the first place. It's just about fat people being the butt of the joke as always
“Growing up I couldn’t even let anyone hug or touch me bc all I could ever think was how disgusted they must be to be touching me” hit me like a freight train, I have horrible dysmorphia about my weight and still deal with this. I’ve never seen another person describe it this similarly before. I try to remind myself that I’m kind of like the artist that can see every flaw in the art bc I “know how it’s supposed to look,” but people observing me don’t, and if they find me attractive or pretty, I kind of don’t get to tell them they’re objectively wrong. But there’s a difference between knowing that and being able to exist like that most days. I prefer body neutrality as a trans person anyway. No actually, I do need to change my body, and I don’t need to just get over it. My body deserves to live but so do I.
My perspective is that people with bigger bodies shouldn’t be treated like garbage and should be allowed to love themselves to make it easier to choose healthy lifestyles or feel confident going to the gym or showing their body in public. Self hatred breeds EDs and depression which are both hell for weight gain and self care, so loving yourself is good, but claiming that excessively heavy bodies are healthy is dangerous. Some chunkier people are perfectly healthy- my sister is built like a tree and she’s the strongest person I know despite being thicc lol Love yourself enough to be confident in who you are and so you can make choices to be more comfortable- because let’s face it, obesity is extremely uncomfortable and scary and can destroy your life if unchecked or enabled..
I'm one of those that don't like hearing "lose weight" as a solution to my problems. 1. I have been trying to lose weight for over a decade with zero progress. I'll lose 10 or 20 lbs and then, without changing anything, gain it all back. 2. The first time a doctor told me this, I was being seen about my knee pain. My athletic sister had the same knee pains and was prescribed braces and pain meds. Mine was labeled "growing pains" (which mayo clinic now says IS NOT A THING) and I was told losing weight would help... Thing is, I wasn't even technically overweight at the time. I was on the heavier side of the healthy weight for my height chart, but I was technically not even medically overweight yet. I was refused any treatment beyond weight loss advice. 3. The only time I lost anything more than 20 lbs was during pregnancy. Dropped from 280 lbs to 218 BOTH times. And I gained it all back in just over 2 months. It took me years to get to 280 from 218 the first time. 4. A lot of my health issues are also shared by healthy weighted people. And a lot of these issues I had LONG before I even neared 150 lbs. I also want to clarify that I don't think I'm healthy. At all. I know my weight is in fact complicating things. But I'd be unhealthy even at the ideal weight for my height and age. I'm still trying to lose weight, but it is feeling hopeless since nothing seems to work. I also have a severely injured back caused by taking a tumble down a mother flipping water fall, and this has impeded my ability to do any heavy lifting workouts. It's getting better, so I hope to try to weight train or do Pilates soon, but I will have to ease into it slowly. Also, most fat people didn't choose to be fat, have been told for years to lose weight, and know it's not healthy. We don't need to waste money on a doctor to tell us "losing weight will help".
@@wintersupremacy to clarify, I don't mind when strangers say it. They don't know me or my medical history. I mainly have a problem with doctors charging me or my family hundreds of dollars just to tell me "just lose weight".
@@arose92795 I can really sympathize with this. I lost 100lbs on accident, and it improved so much of my health issues, but that was still no excuse for my doctor to not notice that some of my back pain was from scoliosis. Sure, it's not a completely huge curve in my spine, but it's still *there*, and it causes me issues. Not to mention I had been hit by a car and landed on my back as a child as well. The doc was very good at brushing me aside. That being said, I'm sorry to see you've been struggling at losing weight all this time. Tbh, the only thing that helped me was increasing protein and fiber. I don't eat super differently than how I did before, I just increased those things, which made me naturally decrease the less helpful foods. And I move more than I ever have. Whether that just be walking on my rickety treadmill that's been in my backroom since before I was born... (I'm 24, for reference) while on a call or before bed. Or choosing to learn a physically active skill. Also, gaining muscle made things easier. But losing 100lbs (very unhealthily... I was so stressed to the point of making myself feel too ill to eat and I lost it within about 3 months) out of nowhere didn't prepare me for the work that I would have to put in to keep that weight off and still try to recover and maintain health. Holy moly, this whole fight we all have to fight to maintain our bodies.... it's a heck of a thing, aint it?
It seems that when ur overweight, doctors are more likely to chalk up your health problems to "lose weight" which is...honestly really gross. I've heard pleeeenty of stories where someone went to multiple doctors until one *actually* seriously considered and looked into their condition. I can only speak for the USA but for as much money as we have to put into healthcare, it *sucks.* especially if ur afab. If so, good luck being taken seriously.
@@derpkipper it turns out that in my charts they actually think I might have lupus. They never told me this until I got another new doctor. I suspected I might have pots or ehlers-danlos syndrome, but it seems like lupus might fit my symptoms better. Including the fact that I am having such a hard time losing weight already.
This is one of the few videos I will comment on. As a child growing up, I was definitely on the chubbier side. I hated exercise mainly due to how I was “taught” how to exercise where if you didn’t feel like you were about to pass out and every muscle screamed in pain, then you were doing it wrong. I also loved to eat all sorts of things that were unhealthy. I was very short so the weight became more prominent and I ended up being a very late bloomer so I had the appetite of someone going through puberty but with none of the changes going on. Mind you, I didn’t have the most unhealthy diet among my peers, I would even argue some of them ate way worse and way more than I did… but I was the overweight kid. The amount of comments I would get from my peers, from school staff, and even some random strangers in other classes bore into me and I eventually started to eat less and less… to an unhealthy degree. I started to “forget” meals and even throw up other meals… a few times I even “punished myself” by trying to skip a meal like I saw so many people on TV do. I did begin to lose weight but I felt miserable. Funny thing was… I was praised by peers and staff for a while. Eventually though my health took a toll for the worse and I developed a chronic health condition. I had to learn how to eat all over again, this time with a much stricter diet that required an immense amount of calories just to maintain my weight. I struggled for multiple years just to maintain a weight that was even in the triple digits and just like before… I got all sorts of comments and looks from peers and adults. I had a few even state that they were jealous of my medical condition because I could eat as much as I wanted and not gain weight. I had others spread rumors that I was doing hard narcotics just because I was so thin and pale that I shivered in 80-90°F weather. So many people put so much focus on the number on a scale without considering how the person may be feeling both physically and mentally. Neither extreme is healthy in the slightest. Thankfully I am in a place where I am doing much better, I just need to ignore the stupid comments I occasionally get from people trying to tell me what is best for me and my diet without knowing how anything may affect me. That’s for me and my trusted and medically licensed care system to decide.
I have been fat for majority of my life (I'm in my 30s now). My weight goes up and down and because I am tall it is hard to notice at times but I am fat weight wise and size wise. I was joined a community of "healthy and loved at any sizes" things, not Tess' specifically this was years ago, and it was just full of fat people. There were very few people on there who weren't overweight and then when someone did join who was considered "thin" or one of the people started posting about their weight loss journey, they were immediately shunned and bullies into leaving. I realised then it wasn't a body acceptance, it was a coping thing. it was a group of people in their echo chambers getting validation for their size when society shunned them. And I will be the first to say society has a problem with how it views overweight people, but claiming to be body positive and then hissing at a skinny person is just the same malice as a thin person making fun of someone who is fat. So whenever I see an influencer like Tess or like the many other over weight influencers I always get a bad vibe because it is just the same thing. It's not loved at any size, it's just to be a coping habit for people. So yeah it's no surprise when Tess changes her diet, her fans are seething. And it's also no surprise her critics are as well because it's just as much as a cope for them. Society won't view them as scum if they're making fun of a fat person because they can excuse it as "caring for health" and they lose that when that fat person is showing to lose that weight. It's just a circle jerk of coping.
One of the best parts about Ponder is their bluntness, it lends to a much easier to understand video with several different perspectives Also, do appreciate the content warning, as someone who can space out while listening to videos The stigma I had when I had a massive ovarian cyst (26.2 lbs) gave me a small insight into how larger people are seen and treated, the amount of people who asked if I was pregnant was ridiculous. I felt the pressure to lose weight and gain back my “girlish figure”. When I did have surgery (which I am thankful that I was able to afford/get) I faced the alternative of compliments that were backhanded, I remember a nurse joking that I “basically had a tummy tuck” while I was in the hospital. All in all, I was able to get a small snapshot in this discourse. I’m so thankful that Ponder mentioned the medical issues.
I'm glad that that trait can be beneficial in some cases because Cthulhu knows my propensity to just blurt out the truth when asked a question has gotten me into some hot water before, lol.
Thank you for talking about Gaza, truly, I'll never forget the Twitter user who was an artist and they lost their dominant arm in an attack. During the Lebanon explosion there was a viral video of a bride making her wedding video, in the Genocide she was one of the victims, she had degrees, she had her life before her, she was young, and she was just married. Everyone who talks about Hamas like to point at the child death when in Gaza newborns literally starve to death.
I am pro Palestine. But not pro Hamas. Hamas, at the end of the day, Is a terrorist organisation that is using the suffering of their brethren to gain power. If they somehow win, they will redirect their hatred towards all the palestinian people who don't agree with their views. It's a complex situation, like always. Here in my country, Italy, the mentality that Hamas are heroes is becoming weirdly prevalent amongst youths and university students, wich is why Italian Hebrews feel threatened and many students stopped going to school after some teachers were even attacked. I am NOT pro Israel, at all, Israel sucks ass. But these reactions are ridiculous and don't help anyone.
Yea I already had massive respect for ponder before I found out about Gaza but my respect for them has just skyrocketed I'm really glad there are creators like this for using their work to help those who need it because it is devastating to see so many lives lost and then people blame the victims it makes me sick
I think what makes me the most upset about this is that an anti inflammatory diet is not inherently a weight lose diet. My mom is obese, has pre diabetes, and has arthritis, so she does have to diet, because of the two aforementioned health conditions. However, her diet isn’t focused on losing weight, but reducing pain from her arthritis. While it would be right of me to assume Tess’ medical history, I wouldn’t be shocked either if this diet was for helping with arthritis, not for losing weight.
Hey so... I'm an internet person, so obv feel free to like, double-check with a REGISTERED Dietitian (not a nutritionist), but arthritis is a systemic issue, so wouldn't your mother need to reduce systematic inflammation? Because there's no scientifically proven "anti-inflammatory diet" that exists, unless you count things like Low FODMAP for IBS, Gluten free for Celiac Disease, or avoiding intolerances/allergies. But all of those are not what your blood markers show for systematic inflammation related to longevity. The only things we know that provably help systematic inflammation is losing fat, moving more/exercising, or *potentially* consuming more Omega 3 PUFAs. This is just information I learned from watching content from Dr. Layne Norton (Who has a BS in Biochemistry and PhD in Nutrition Sciences and has multiple scientific publications, and always sources all of his claims to reputable sources, so I think his information shared is trustworthy personally)
The Jocat stuff was so stupid. I like seeing men embrace finding different body types attractive. And if he was lying about finding all types of bodies attractive, who really cares? 🤷♀️
Yeah like you can still apricated different body types without finding them attractive like you can give someone a compliment without being attacked to them
Exactly. Does a person have to be attracted to everyone to make the statement 'Everybody is beautiful'? that seems stupidly restrictionary as rules go.
I didn't even know he was getting hate for that like why are we so quick to hate on someone just trying to spread a positive message? It feels like anytime someone tries to do something good, people immediately want to either tear them down or scrutinize their move an action to see if they're being "genuine"
I generally agree with all that is said, as my own issues aren't things I want to glorify despite how hard it is to change. However a point if like to bring up is that neurodiversity can also play a factor as some people ,with autism for example, may indulge in unhealthy routine due to fear of breaking it. I eat too much sweet food as I have insomnia and depression and as a result I developed a routine and I avoid breaking it irrationally due to my autism. I desperately want to incooperate healthier parts but money and habits are sucky. This behaviour can manifest in other ways I'm sure like obsessive exercise or fasting in others ofc and ultimately I just hope to find peace in my own body regardless of standards.
Heck there was a thing people where talking about a bit ago called almond moms wich would insist that their child isn't actually hungry and encourage under eating
@@DestinyKiller it came from a clip of Yolanda Hadid telling her daughter Gigi Hadid (pretty well know model) to only chew a few almonds. Also the discussion around almond mom's or almond parenting became even bigger when Gweneth Paltrove discussed what she ate in a day and a lot of people where calling her the finally boss of almond mom's because of her very concerning diet. Also this is only the cliff notes version of it.
Wait, JoCat got HATE for that? Granted, I haven't seen the full video (just clips) but are people genuinely mad at him for doing WHAT THE ORIGINAL SONG DID? Am I missing something?
I think it was because he isn't actually attractive to every body type but I don't find that really bad since you can still apricate different body types without being attracted to them. For example I preffer bigger people but that doesn't mean I can't call a skinny person handsome or pretty.
@@trixxart777 That's what the original song was about anyways, no? I mean, the original lyrics includes "[I like] gays boys", so I'm pretty sure it's just about appreciating all boys and not necessarily that the singer is attracted to them
To be honest, I’ve never seen an issue with people losing weight in the body positivity movement. I have seen an issue with some influencers losing weight and then turning around and accepting sponsorships from crash diets or scam weight loss supplements. There are insane people at the fringes who are definitely feeders / into feederism and those are largely the ones who flip out when people lose weight. That said, I recently gained a ton of weight because of a medical issue I’m still trying to get diagnosed (it look 9 months for an MRI and I’m losing it because the only doctor I have is a at a walk in clinic) and found the core of the messaging of the movement important. I am trying to lose weight but this is totally hormonal, I’m barely eating as it is. I do wish that there’d been a little more mindfulness that the core of this movement is just to accept your body and that your body and weight are no one’s business, and seeing people like Tess does do a service to folks when you feel like control over your body and weight has been yanked from your control. You’re motivated to lose weight when you’re supported, when you’re abused at every corner you’re more likely to sink into a pit and want to disappear.
As someone who has been under weight for most of my life, this can absolutely go both ways. I’ve been called skinny, thin, or even twig-like by random strangers, friends, or even people in my family. It was a nickname that was used on me for years as a kid. It made me self conscious about the way I looked or how my ribs showed and that pushed me to eat more even though I had a small appetite. This just made me dislike eating as I felt like I never ate enough. Moreover, when I developed depression in my teen years, I felt like I didn’t deserve food. When I realized I was Transgender, I felt like I needed to be thin in order to appease my gender dysphoria. A lot of different things can attribute to why a person doesn’t eat enough or eats to much. You never know what is going on in a persons head and what they have been through. Pushing them to do something or another can just make the situation worse over time, as it is ultimately their body and their decision to make for themselves, wether they realize the pros and cons of it or not.
People also tend to forget, excessive weight gain can be a symptom of medical issues, not the cause. Like with thyroid problems, knee problems, medications, etc. This can make receiving medical treatment hard or even impossible, because often times people will say "Just lose the weight!" as a cure, and not realize that in order to lose the weight they need the root problem addressed. For instance, I knew a person who had knee issues for a very long time, before she gained weight. She couldn't receive help for this due to circumstances we lived in, and by the time she could her knee pain had already caused her weight gain. Seems like a clear case from the outside. Fat person -> joint pain -> just lose the weight -> no more joint pain, but because people were only seeing it from that surface level and wouldn't listen to her other information, and so her knee osteoarthritis went untreated for years.
I am intersex with a plethora of hormonal health conditions, and losing weight is virtually impossible for me, especially since I have AIS. I’m really active and exercise daily. It’s frustrating when family and strangers say “You should lose weight!” when I’m happy with my body and know that I’m as healthy as I can be at the moment
As someone who has also had wildly fluctuating weight since childhood, this was an interesting watch. I was underweight for entirety of my childhood, till my teen years hit. Since then, i had been considered fat and had heard really mean comments regarding my body from my friends, teachers, parents, relatives, literally everyone. When i reached highschool i got into the habit of skipping meals on a daiky basis which caused me to rapidly lose weight and literally everyone around me praised the change. I had the worst eating habits and everyone applauded me for it essentially. Nobody knew the full truth ofc, they assumed it was a mix of better exercise and diet, but still it also kinda hurt how the minute you were considered thin, noone questions how you got there but everyone hyperanalyses you and your eating habits when you are overweight. During the pandemic i once again gained weight and was diagnosed with pcos on my first gynec visit, which meant that any and all future visits, despite the problem i was complaining or not complaining about, i was always told to lose weight. Mind you, this was in the middle of pandemic in my final two years of school, which meant that my entire day was spent online schooling, coaching classes, self study and college admission work. Most of my friends also had the same routine as me, but bcs they just didn't tend to put on weight, no one ever questioned them or belittled them about their bodies or daily habits the way i was. Currently im in college and just the general routine of running around and having an active lifestyle means that my weight remains at a healthy level without fluctuating wildly in either direction. But i still have really bad eating habits wherein i constantly avoid eating if i feel like i haven't done "enough" or just forget to eat for 2ish days. My point being, idc if ppl are doing it just to get paid, but i really appreciated the body acceptance movement which was about liking your body as it was. I see the nuances of requiring change if needed for the person's betterment and i hate how some ppl can only see it in extremes (you eat all junk food in existence or you are on an extreme diet) Food and body is such an individual situation, i wish we could just appreciate that nuance and respect ppl as they live without tearing each other down over such things
i personally think that everyone should mind their own business when it comes to body types, i’m very skinny and struggle to do anything physical because of it, zero muscle mass just a bunch of sticks covered in skin and no one has ever told me that “they’re worried about my health” or that “my unhealthy lifestyle is concerning” and i think that’s the real problem! it’s never about the health of the person it’s literally just fat-phobia.
I’ve always struggled with weight because of a lot of factors and generally have to stay away from these topics online because of how… needlessly un-empathetic people seem to get, thank you for covering this topic in such a good way
I’m a 17 year old midsize person (average size is like a 12-14/15, or between Medium and Xtra Large) and I struggle with Hashimotos disease that was diagnosed when I was around 12 and I’ve struggled with my weight since I was around 6 or 7. I was essentially given an eating disorder by my first endocrinologist, he told me, a 12 year old girl (I’m transmasc), to immediately go down to eating 30 net carbs PER DAY! I’ve never hated eating more than I did then. I was put on levothyroxine to account for my underactive thyroid and that doctor overall treated me like a little kid and didn’t take into account how being on that strict of a diet when it wasn’t completely necessary was insane, to the point where I was getting migraines from lack of nutrition and constantly felt nauseous and went on to have a binge eating disorder for a few years that I still struggle with. Fast forward to a few months ago and I start seeing a new doctor and she genuinely gasped when I told her the diet my previous doctor had put me on and that I had been on the same dose of medication for almost 5 years with no changes. Her advice was around 40 net carbs per meal, she put me on a slightly higher dose of my medication, and gave me actual tips on how to be healthier and lose weight with my disease since I was almost pre diabetic at the time. After 3 months and a lot of work I lost 15 pounds and the first thing the med student who talked to me before her asked was if it was intentional, I had never been asked that about my weight fluctuation before. I’ve accepted that I’ll always be midsize due to my build, genetics, and condition but I feel like that all goes to show how even for kids and teens, some doctors have an implicit bias in how they treat larger patients and in my case it seemed there was a hint of sexism at play as well
As someone who has a mom that smokes, absolutley. I can tell you from the age of 11 I felt the urge to smoke get gradually worse. and it still haunts the back of my mind four years later. I feel awful for my mum, but after roughly 13/14 years of dealing with it I've just accepted it. She has tried quitting before but relapsed. In all honesty though my mom smoking does not define her. She is a wonderful women and it hurts to see addictive substances take the nicest of peoples lives away.(I'm 15 btw to clairfy, my mum quit smoking for roughly a year or two)
Though I haven't gotten through the whole video yet, I already resonate with the topic. I am overweight, but not by much, and I'm actually pleased with where my body is at. I'm battling depression and I'm also currently battling my picky nature so I'm happy I'm even taking the time to eat at all. My main goal at this point is to just survive, yet I still have family hounding me at every turn about my weight. I know I don't eat the healthiest, but I eat healthy enough to keep going until I'm in a spot where I can focus on improving my health.
I feel like attaching weight so closely to working out isn't always the best. It can create an unhealthy perspective for some people, including myself for the longest time. Now that I've figured out i have hypermobility, exercise is about keeping my body going and from collapsing on itself. I actually feel like exercise is worth it to me now. Just a little antidote ig
I am SO glad that you mentioned PCOS and thyroid issues. I gained a lot of weight due a medical condition (not thyroid related BUT the only treatment was literally 3 months of a steroid medication that causes weight gain) and because of PCOS even while actively going to the gym, having good eating habits, and improving health wise, I didn't lose a SINGLE pound over the course of SEVERAL months. Best part: the only treatment that my first gynecologist would even consider to ease my PCOS symptoms was telling me to lose weight. Y'know, the weight that my PCOS was preventing me from losing by any other way than getting close to ED territory of diet restriction. I switched dr's pretty quickly. On the OPPOSITE end, my sister has thyroid issues, to the point that her thyroid was so hyperactive that it HAD to be removed so it didn't kill her. She struggles to gain weight and at times has been dangerously underweight for no reason under her active control. My partner was extremely overweight for quite some time, and the largest contributors to that were depression and a DEBILITATING ankle issue that prevented her from working out. (Side note, while we know that exercise in the water would have been a viable method but the area we live in and our income level made that near impossible because outside of summer months, water exercise isn't an option.) Trying to get the ankle injury treated, she KEPT only receiving advice that she should exercise to lose weight and the ankle would get better. Exercise in small amounts inflamed the injury SO badly that she could barely walk for several days after. Literally was stuck in a catch 22, needed her ankle better to exercise to lose weight but needed to lose weight for her ankle to get better. Medically necessary weight loss surgery was the only route left open to her and now she's doing much better but until doctors ACKNOWLEDGED that, she was so trapped. Weight is such a complex issue and people tend to look at it too black and white, and the extreme views on either end certainly don't help.
I think a lot of people don't realize that some people with certain genetics can be bigger regardless of what they do. Many larger people have eating disorders like bulimia and anorexia, these disorders don't have a certain "look"
"Your audience didn't get you to where you are. You did." Acknowledging your audience's part in your success does not dismiss your own hard work. Yes, you can work hard to become a public figure and yes, should your audience turn on you, it is possible to build another, but every person with a job needs to consider what their intended customers want, including public figures. Unless you're a crook, your customers are what determine your success in your career. If you no longer want those particular customers or if you don't care for their specific approval, it is up to you to decide if it's worth the risk trying to get another target demographic, but that still speaks to your audience getting you to where you are.
In my experience, being around chain smokers made me hate smoking with a passion I wouldnt touch a cig if it meant dying on the spot. Same with alcoholics. I imbibe one or two alcoholic drinks a year because two of my abusive stepfathers were alcoholics.
5:22 Doctors are quick to try and blame a persons weight for their health problems and refuse to do any testing. My mom had a Doctor say “Lose weight and we can talk about dealing with this surgery you need.” My mom did not see her again. She went to a different doc and he said “So, when you wanna schedule this surgery?”
(Edit: for Grammer fixes) Some doctors can be so autopilot and stubborn about being in the right. They just don't actually listen to the root of the problem. Or try to think of another reason why someone is experiencing the symptoms or if the weight gain is the medical symptom of something deeper.
B, will you be making a video on everything about doodletones, lio, nezzimonster, the FCK server etc? I feel like your input and usual researching is genuinely needed in this case, especially since things are so convoluted and serious.
thank you for bringing up PCOS into the discussion. as someone who has it weight loss for me has been extremely difficult. so seeing it be humanized and shown in a more natural light is very nice. even for a brief moment
Das what happens when you're me. And you haven't finished the thumbnail by the time you scheduled the upload because you needed a nap and to take your dog on a hike. I'm bad at my job is what I'm saying.
1st off, fantastic video, I loved it, great to listen to :3 2nd off, thank you for speaking about not only Gaza, but Congo AND Sudan. Its great to see creators on other platforms spreading the word about whats going on, outside of tiktok. 3rd off ... idunno have a good day :3
The only thing I know about her is that one magazine cover that everyone was complaining about "glorifying obesity" and making fun of her a couple years ago
Oftentimes those "critics" don't really care about the creator's health (even though they claim that they do). They just want to make people feel bad. They're the same kind of people who would laugh at a fat person in a gym or actively jogging. They're doing exactly what those critics bullied them into (let's just call it what it is), but it's STILL not good enough. Even worse if the creator gets plastic surgery. Then they get criticized for "taking the easy road" and "not putting in any effort". A lot of the time, fat people can't win online...
Those "critics" are based off of only 2 videos that Ponder found when there's a plethora of videos on RUclips from various creators giving valid criticisms that she didn’t bother to mention.
Rewatching this rn since I wasn't able to see the first half and I already appreciate this significantly! I was more so on the weight loss side of things, born a chubby baby n' all. Had anorexia issues at like 4th grade or so, and I still have issues today with remembering to eat (shocker, I'm in bedrest rn, 100 my fault) I've been watching for a few good years now, and love how you show multiple perspectives, each side and blunt transparency! It's insanely refreshing no matter from where you stand upon such topics, at least within my own opinion. BUT, this makes me feel really happy this is addressed with such care and as much research as you always do, Ponder! I absolutely adore your work
My friend and i talked about something similar to this. She's tall and hourglass shaped and im short, heavy and apple shaped.i wanted to lose a ton of weight to an unhealthy degree and eventually i stopped when we talked about it i told her i wasnt trying to lose weight to look good or be healthy i just wanted to be treated like a person and so i thought losing weight would help and eventually i juat gave up and decided to go at my own pace because realistically I'll never be good enough for society
Hi Ponder, I relate to you swinging in the opposite of weight for your height. I have always been underweight my whole life. I remember as a kid I was never represented on a weight chart for my height. I have slowly gained weight over time but I still am considered underweight. It's something I have been self-conscious about for a long time. Really informative video as always
I really hate how invested people get in other people’s lives. Even if someone is intentionally choosing to be fat…okay? Let them do their thing. Some people are so invested in calling other people names and like…why?
I very much appreciate this vid, tho I think one thing missing from the analysis (which has been brought up in this comment section a few times in different forms and respect to you Ponder for hearting those comments) is that the push to disconnect "weight" and "health" isn't so much about the actual science of it as the way that that connection is used *as a justification for fat-shaming and systemic fatphobia.* For example, in the case of people refusing to take weight loss suggestions from doctors, that is because the suggestion of weight loss often comes with a refusal to *actually investigate a patient's other symptoms* - something that already happens enough to women and people of color. In the case of "we should be able to eat what we want without ostracization or judgement" it's not policing people's automatic bias response, it's saying "a fat person shouldn't have to be making the perfect dietary choices or give up their enjoyment of food for you to give them basic human respect." It's not about your immediate thought, its about shifting away from acting on a framework that equates higher BMI with moral deficit. (Which also means getting rid of the notion of 'good, healthy' fat people and 'bad, lazy, unhealthy' fat people) That being said, no one should be shamed for any kind of shift in their body weight OR talking about lifestyle changes and their own personal comfort with how they look.
Ok, loved the video, but the ending section…my god, thank you! The fact that I see so few creators I watch talking about any of these issues, is honestly starting to get on my nerves.
I'd like to add to this conversation with my own family's history. Both my mom and maternal grandmother were skinny in their youth but then later became fat, not obese, just mom-bod plus-sized. In my youth, I'm still able to eat a lot to the point where I can be absolutely stuffed without gaining weight, meanwhile my mom for a long period struggled with diets but still remained the same. It is very likely that I'm going to be the same as my grandmother and mom because of our genetic metabolism changing as we age.
I usually don't watch videos dealing with weight. I am susceptible to unhealthy eating habits, but decided to give this one a go because i know Ponder and Bee always cover things with tact, and i wasn't dissapointed! I would like to say, that "skinny culture", just people proposing the only healthy bodytype is not only bonkers but also damaging to the mentally unwell. I personally take a cocktail of 4 varieties of medications (8 pills total) 2 of which are known to cause apetite fluctuation, one is known for weight gain, and one for a direct and severe short burst of extremely high appetite. Im personally a perfectly healthy weight, and despite that i get called chubby, abd that i should take off some pouvss, despite that being nigh impossible with my current mefication. Its important to note that from a biological standpoint, especially for female born individuals, or individuals with hormone ongoings similar to that of a female person. Fat is not unhealthy, it's the body's way of preparing for famine and protecting itself ,(it cushions, protects from physical trauma, insulates, etc.) and the body is built with it in mind, again, especially for female born people. You know as far as evolution is concerned that animal is about to produce another animal, having a little extra in the reserves is beneficial. This is why female born I, with my thunder thighs, am a healthy weight, and it's disapointing that people expect people to have supermodel bodies. On the other hand, my sister *does* have a supermodel body. She is tall, with long legs, and is skinny, too skinny, she is slightly underweight, and her doctors urge her to gain some and despite her efforts, she does not. And she has frequently expressed to me similar issues. She gets ostracized for promoting unhealthy body standards just by existing. I don't really have a neat way to tie this comment up, just though alla this was important to mention, great work, keep it up! Love your videos, they help my art productivity a ton :P
I love how all of this was triggered by her changing her diet FOR REASONS THAT AREN’T RELATED TO WEIGHT LOSE. It’s for inflammatory issues my god. Like I’m an adult now. I got acid reflux, and have begun cutting soda and mint out of my diet. Like 50% of diets have nothing to do with your weight, and all the people who see someone dieting for their health, as an attack, are very revealing.
Considering that plus size people have existed far back as Roman’s prime I believe that there should be acceptance to plus size people. As long as there is encouragement for self betterment for those who choose it and assurance there’s no shame for your body then I believe these cuddle bunnies deserve acceptance. I’m coming from a stance and experience of which my mother bickered at me for not losing weight even though I was slightly chubby not even fat or skinny I was down the middle but closer towards chubby. And I also believe there should be acceptance to underweight people too and should receive the same encouragement and comfort. Both ends deserve the love and encouragement not to mention making information on how people can take proper steps to better themselves would be great and obviously there should be more than just a one way or the highway. Everyone is different so dedicating research to that and safe ways to do it is always encouraged by me. No one deserves to starve themselves to their breaking point just to lose a few pounds and no one should be forced to eat till they feel like vomiting.
story time! so i have tachycardia, likely bc of a genetic disorder i have, and i had to quit going on daily walks bc i would almost pass out just going to the mailbox (before, i could walk like a couple of miles no issue.) i go to a heart doctor. im fairly thin. TECHNICALLY overweight, but not by much. he tells me i need to work out. i try to explain that i was, and had to stop due to the heart issues. he still blamed my lack of exercise. so yeah i just stopped caring. im about 190-200 pounds at 5'8, but you likely wouldnt be able to tell at a glance. if i work out again, itll be for ME. not bc i need to "lose weight". weight isnt my problem rn, im just overall weak. if i lose weight in the meantime? cool! but i aint gonna push myself. tdlr: weight doesnt matter unless it matters to YOU. dont let anyone tell you youre gross or evil for a few extra pounds. live your life, have fun, and buy yourself a treat bc damn it youve earned it that being said, wanting to lose weight isnt BAD. it just shouldnt be forced on you. if you wanna take that step, go ahead! ive considered getting a dietician to help me balance my diet a bit more. dieting isnt always for weight loss either, it could be for a medical condition, or maybe to give yourself more to work with when working out. her diet was for inflammation.
Even though I don’t know what is going on since I’m just getting flashback of the whole illymation situation (which is another reason why I dislike the commentary bros). I’ll watch anything that you put out since the videos are relaxing but a headache due to the situations either being illegal, people being dumb and toxic, with a hint of bigotry.
As fan of Illymations I'm disappointed in her because she decided to post on her Tumblr account to have her fans mass report ThinkBeforeYouSleep's response video when she should've just ignored it. I don't like TBYS or channels associated or similar to him and Illy definitely shouldn't have been doxxed, but that doesn't mean Illy doesn't deserve valid criticisms. The situation has been blown out of proportion making it drama, but there are channels discussing without making it dramatic.
I have Avoidant Restrictive Food Intake Disorder, or ARFID for short, which means I can only eat a very limited variety of foods since everything else tastes or smells gross to me. Unfortunately, I also have acid reflux, which means that my stomach acids are a lot more volatile than normal. So I need to eat a lot so I don't feel pain, but also my diet is incredibly limited and is mostly "unhealthy" foods like sweets and snacks. You can probably see the issue here. I've been gaining weight recently, and my mom has been portioning down the food. This has worked in losing weight, but also it means I have been having more stomach cramps. Coincidentally today has been the worst. So... there isn't really a good solution I can see. Either I get fat to a healthy degree but am shamed for it, I get fat to an unhealthy degree, or I'm in pain. And for anyone who tries to comment "well have you tried other foods???" or something like that, you should try a change in attitude about neurodivergent people.
I feel like part of the problem in regards to weight is no one acknowledges how hard it is to lose weight when you're fat. Critics will say "just lose weight" like all you need to do is take a jog once a week and then you'll be cured. They act like its some easy fix and that the fat person isn't doing these 5 simple hacks to shed the pounds. Yes, people can make bad health choices but can we not act like losing weight is some easy task. It's a long process that requires effort for years, not a quick fix. So when someone who understands the struggle of how much effort it will take gets told to just lose some pounds like its easy, they tend to get disheartened. Hopelessness is a hell of a feeling. I just want people to encourage others to make healthier choices like eating better or moving more that isn't tied to a number or a physical look. I think in the end people need to keep their comments about others weight choices and situations to themselves
Since its on topic and to add a sprinkle of positivity; i am still so impressed that Nickicado lost all that weight. He really does look much happier now :]
I haven't heard of her before this, but I do think it's important to recognize that people aren't inherently malicious most of the time. Like, there's a lot of potential explanations for her behavior that don't paint her in a negative light, and a lot of people don't seem to recognize that. (That's something I've always appreciated with your content- a willingness to give benefit of doubt and provide leeway for positive or neutral interpretations of someones behavior that don't inherently imply malicious intentions.) Generally I just wish people would be more willing to be open-minded when it comes down to the actions and behaviors of others- a lot of the time people treat any deviation from being as objectively good a person as possible as some kind of betrayal or revealing of true evil nature, when in reality it could just be a fuckup or change of subjective opinion.
No joke the first minute of what you said is 100% what I strive to do as well Had a bit of a hick up today it hearing say that made me feel better and sparked the drive back up, to see the world as a better place one step at a time
Can't really look at it in a black/white sense. Many factors like: encouraging a mind set, having a community that accepts you, using the community as an excuse to do something that is positive/negative, it's a kink/fetish, etc. It's kinda everything all at once and there's not really a right/wrong answer. Either capitalize on the situation and whatever your goal(s) is just maneuver until it becomes ideal or just keep trying to please whatever group is the loudest and hopefully you don't self-destruct. Ultimately, you just have to focus on yourself and whatever comes from it is both something you earned on your own merits and that there's enough of a community to support whatever it is you're providing for you to have a career of.
Thank you Ponder for always providing a space for important conversations like these. You always have a very clear nuance to your videos and topics you talk about that the internet needs, BADLY.
I myself am a very short person, im only 4'9 (or 4'10 idk at this point, its easy to forget). And I will not be growing anymore, that was my last shot essentially. I used to eat a lot as a kid, a very hungry gremlin but lost my appetite around 5 years ago, which was when my body was hitting the last of its physical growing stage. This video really sticks with me for a lot of reasons. I struggle to eat enough, I've lost a lot of weight and due to medication I take, it reduces it even further. But I'm at a stage where I eat enough to stay healthy and go on walks every now and then. Thats how I maintain my body. I admit, I need to take better care of what I eat but I'm making an active effort and change. People in my life have also changed their habits to healthier, and yes, their lives have improved. This whole thing is just sad that such a positive message can cause so much hate from all sides. I'm physically disabled which has influenced my physical appearance and at first I saw the movement as a potential change. A way for people to be more accepting and respectful. Understanding the fact people's bodies are different. But as soon as it started promoting unhealthy habits, I couldn't stick with it. I have lost family to smoking, an unhealthy habit within your control. Excessive eating and obesity follows the same idea. Yes, there are medical reasons but thats unrelated. This is a very complex issue with so much grey area there is no right answer. Trying to simplify the issue is part of the problem. Moral of the story, being healthy is different to every person and we should be understanding of that. But using the movement as an excuse for your own indulgence is your own choice. That is YOUR own fault. At this point, people need to teach themselves respect. We have lost it in any attempt to better our communities and that comes from all sides of the argument.
I’m about 20 minutes in, so im not fully sure wether or not this is addressed, but as a fat person myself, part of the problem with fatphobia is that we get categorically UNPERSONED by society at large. We’re often an afterthought at best, at worst we are demonized and looked at as less than people. THAT is what “even if we’re fat by choice, fatphobia is wrong” is abt. Just bc someone likes food and likes eating, it doesn’t mean they deserve to be depersoned by the world around them. (Not mad or upset)
Ok actually this was entirely the wrong direction I thought the video was going sndndndkdk sorry for my rant. I had no idea who Tessa was, and I was responding to your comments about people being fat “by choice” getting hurt by fatphobia. I was NOT expecting what the meat of the video was about, as I’m not really…. On that side of the internet
Yo Ponder speaking as a former friend I have a good question. . .WTAF WAS UP WITH THE SASU CALL? Never have I ever thought you would stoop so low as to emotionally manipulate someone with serious mental issues to admit an intrusive thoughts he had in the past so the people in that call can dogpile him. No I'm not saying Sasu is a saint or needs to be coddled, he clearly needs psychological help but that call was absolutely disgusting on so many levels!
@@molinagrn65not many people are talking about the predators and enablers in the fck, just Doodletones and Nezziemonster because it’s trendy. So I’m not surprised.
It's bizarre and kinda freaky how often Ponder's uploads exactly correlate to me wondering where she's been and looking up her channel. It's happened like four times now. Spooky probability gremlins at work.
I thought this was going to be a hard video to watch, but I was pleasantly surprised with how I was able to handle it. I struggle with my weight due to medical reasons, with the medicines I take for my mental and physical health making me gain weight. It’s hard, especially since I used to be hyper fit and played sports most of my life. I tried dieting, but that just revealed a latent ED I had. What I’ve found helps the most is continuing to eat as I always have, but just being mindful. If I want something more unhealthy, I just choose the better of my options. I also try to avoid over indulgence, but that can be hard with my ED, and also the fact that if I don’t eat enough, my blood sugar drops and I feel like I’m going to pass out. It doesn’t help that in America, i would be considered plus size when in Europe, im still a medium. In fact, I’ve lost weight in Europe simply by continuing to eat as I always have. There’s truly so many layers to this issue- wether it be with the beauty industry, lack of healthy options in America, or body positivity movements- but the only thing that matters at the end of the day is that youre healthy, and doing whats best for you
I was just looking at your channel to see if you'd posted earlier today. I finally have another long video to listen to while drawing. Love your videos ponder!
I'm pretty early on in the video- But I just wanted to add my experience as an over weight individual, (Who's been so sense I was around 10 or 11) I have Hypothyroidism! Now for me, that comes with multiple general symptom esc things- But in regards to weight, it makes it much harder to lose weight. Hell, it makes it very difficult to maintain CURRENT, weight, let alone lose. I fluctuate heavily, going from a spout where I gain some more- Stretch marks become vivid, and purple- To losing in a short time frame, WAY too quickly of a drop. It's rough, I not only struggled with being "the fat kid" my whole life- Never really getting proper treatment, to being an adult now with even more issues with it. I've been getting my severe anxiety under control, (I'm now on medication that took me from having breakdowns in the parking lot, to being able to go nearly anywhere!) And so walking, because I'd be alone- Was and still is hard for me to do. Not the act OF doing so, but walking my neighborhood alone, my city alone. I don't even GO places alone, so walking without even any kind of weapon on me terrifies me, that's why exercise has been so hard to actually implement on a regular basis? (It's slowly getting better!) I'm in therapy for some CSA stuff, and my anxiety- Which I've made strides in! (Ponder you may or may not remember me, I was 16/17 when I first asked your opinion on my situation, and you were the first to tell me in my life that it wasn't MY fault. I'm doing so much better now, him cut off and not much of a problem for me anymore + Making SO much progress in my trauma work in therapy, so thank you ♡) But I've been taking baby steps to achieve those goals, and it's always gonna be a work in progress! I hate seeing so many things online, shitting on anyone who has visible weight problems- As if food is their only issue. It is usually more than just "eat less fatty" and people who don't live it, in some way or another- Tend to not understand how complicated it is. Me personally another big factor to my weight, is that healthy food is just SO damn expensive. To make all your meals fresh, or make sure almost if not all are nice quality, fresh and healthy ingredients? You may as well sell your kidney, and that'll cover you for a couple months. Shit is so much worse nowadays in regards to price, I'm not surprised at all that so many people struggle with losing weight. huge part of people as a whole don't have the proper access to a "guarantee to be healthier" diet as a base line.
I don’t understand how people can basically be like “ ur bad because your not eating foods that are bad for you!!” I know it goes deeper than that but how stupid.
While I understand the complaint of glorifying habits that are detrimental to one's health, I often see people insisting that plus-size people are "promoting obesity" by...existing. Like they literally do not discuss their weight whatsoever and yet they are somehow promoting unhealthy habits by just having the body they have? Are you not allowed to exist in influential spaces if you look a certain way? It's a really stupid complaint that I see a lot, almost exclusively to plus-size women, and it bothers me profusely. There's always a line crossed with critiques such as this, and it's detrimental to one's own argument when you're criticizing not the promotion of unhealthy lifestyles, but the existence of bigger people. Additionally, thank you so much for speaking up and using your voice for those who need it. There are so many people I genuinely cannot consume the content of because despite my admiration for their intelligence, I can't fathom how you can just stay quiet. I'm not saying "you're a horrible person for not speaking up or for consuming the content of those who don't!" but personally, I just can't anymore. I don't get how people can just not care. I don't get how people can still be uneducated while they have a WiFi connection. I don't understand it, and I don't care to anymore. Thank you Ponder.
Given that the last I saw of Tess Holiday was her eating a WHOLE ASS HUGE CAKE by herself, seeing her have a healthy yet still filling breakfast is a nice change. People should not be shamed for trying to improve themselves. The same thing happened to Adele and Lizzo when they lost weight.
I do think that the concept that "eating whatever you want means you deserve the consequences" relies on the concept that people inherently feel negatively about larger bodies. Like it makes perfect sense to me to let people eat what they want because it's none of my business and people don't HAVE to look a certain way for me to treat them with respect, nor do they to meet my personal standards of what I find attractive, cuz attractiveness is a case-by-case basis and I'm asexual so nobody is attractive to me lol.
First off. OHMUHGODITSMUHBABY! Okay. Fan Girling done. 2nd thing. I'm a bigger gal myself. I'm 210 pounds at 5'1, and I struggle with one of the aforementioned health issues. I have PCOS. My problem with fat acceptance is that it pretty quickly stopped being about treating people with basic human respect and not tormenting them over their weight and began to turn into people not being able to accept that being fat isn't healthy and that it isn't always just a result of other health issues if any at all. I personally struggle with PCOS, but part of my issues are eating habits and I acknowledge that. Does that mean I'm going to change to appease people? No. If I do decide to change, it's going to be for me and no one else. But I'm not going to sit there and pretend I didn't do it to myself and also that the way I live is healthy. I guess what I'm trying to say here is that it stopped being about fat acceptance and became about denial of responsibility and delusions of healthiness that is more often than not just untrue. Then there was also the really weird and obnoxious wave of skinny hate where skinny people just existing was oppressive to those who weren't skinny. I remember way back there was a gal who wrote a very aggressive blog about how she was at this party and how absolutely seething she was about a skinny girl chose to have a small slice of cake vs. a giant one. The common ones I was sewing was people primarily being nasty towards women eating salads while the OP is eating fast food. And who knows? Maybe some of it was trolling, but as a 16 year old just being introduced to the internet not even a year ago by that point, I took stuff like that seriously and it rubbed me the wrong way. I think if they the fat acceptance movement stuck to exactly that, acceptance, it stopped making excuses for people, and it stopped creating a volatile environment for those who just simply wanted to exist in peace in all sizes, I would have been more open to it.
speaking as a disabled person , i can entirely get why someone wouldn't want their doctor bringing up their weight as a reason for their issues . i'm barely above average weight-wise & i've had doctors tell me my GENETIC CHRONIC ILLNESS is a result of me needing to lose weight , when in reality , it's a big reason i have trouble gaining weight , because it impacts my ability to develop muscle mass . i've only been recently diagnosed but i can imagine ppl who may have been dealing with similar stuff their whole lives would leave a sour taste in their mouths in regards to any suggestion of weight loss
My opinion has always been it's none of my business what people put in their faces. I'm a firm believer in 'your body your choice' in every sense of the phrase.
I'm late to the party but-- I feel like a lot of people don't understand just how life-changing actually making progress in your weight can be when you're someone who struggles with it. "You can't change your stance so easily" uhhh, yes you can? It can be devastating having to accept that you don't fit into to beauty standards, especially when you know you can do something to stop it. I used to similarly be very into the fat acceptance movement, because no matter what I did, I couldn't lose any weight. But right when I stopped caring, I dropped 20 pounds in the span of a few months. It's a crazy fucking change-- People expect someone to just go through a complete switch in their body composition and remain the same, but its really not how it works.
I too struggled with near constant weightgain despite rarely eating anything considered unhealthy and despite ditching stuff like soda outright. It wasnt until a year and a half ago when I visited a nutritionist that we figured out what the problem was. I was not eating too much! I was eating TOO LITTLE and only ONCE A DAY! That, caused my body to constantly think its famine-time, forceing it to store absolutely everything i gave it. Since that I was able to space out my meals well, am allowed to treat myself once in a while, and am slowly but surely looseing weight without having to hunger or eat foods that I cant stand. I just bring that up, to proove that the reason for weightgain can be absolutely insane and out of left field! (Also to say that a good nutritionist can be just as valueable as a good therapist and they are often an option many are unaware of )
for situations like airplanes I think it important to respect people personal spaces, if you take more then one seat then you should buy two to be respectful and not put others into an uncomfortable situation. also that its important to stay healthy for you and those around you. don't think people would want to experience the bad side effects. I never experienced being fat or such. although I do need to do my best to eat more consistency and exercise so i can stay healthy. feel like everyone should try their best and be healthy as they want while also understanding the issues of their body and conditions.
I'm someone who's had body issues most of his life. I'm naturally stocky and around five foot nine, so I always feel like I look larger than my friends and am very self conscious about my appearance, especially my belly. I've been going to the gym since I was in my early twenties (I turn 40 next month) but it's only really been in the last five or so years that I finally felt I had a workout routine that worked for me, only to then lost about 18 months due to the pandemic. I remember in July 2021 when my chiropractor (I have a shoulder injury) commented on how much weight I'd put on during lockdown (for the record, I live in the UK), especially as I find it hard to train at home. I've always had toned arms and legs due to me doing martial arts since I was a young child, on top of other hobbies like going to the gym and rock climbing for about five years. Ironically my body type actually made climbing harder for me, and there were times where I weighed more than my belay partner, to the point they'd have to wear a sand bag or two to counter my weight. I'll admit I may have a somewhat toxic mindset when it comes to weight. I try not to be the stereotypical "I do this at the gym X times a week and I eat this, that and the other" gym bro but I also know I have let that slip through at times. I do believe everyone should strive for a healthy body, but I know it's not practical for everyone. And yet, I also feel concerned when people show signs of poor health. I remember seeing a friend for the first time since the pandemic in 2022 and not only had he put on a lot of weight, I noticed he was wheezing/breathing quite heavily, so naturally I felt concerned about his health.
Me personally, I doubt I'd ever be able to diet properly even if I wanted to due to my taste and texture issues which has given me a diet of mostly the same foods every day for most of my life. I've thankfully been supplementing things I normally don't get in my diet with vitamins, but I know for a fact I probably won't be losing much weight due to it, which I'm okay with. I don't mind being a bit on the chubbier side and my overall health isn't too bad. Another example is my mom has problems that require her to not eat foods that have added sugar in them. While sometimes she does break this diet for one reason or another, she does her best to get back to and keep up with it so that way she isn't in as much pain due to her medical issues.
Speaking as an overweight i definitely agree the "fat acceptance" movement needs to address this food habits and talk about the dangers of the being overweight however the "antifat acceptance" crowd can definitely come into the conversation extremely hostile and misinformed.
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my perspective on this is simply "you don't need to bang or even date plus sized people, but don't demean, bully, or define one's character on the basis of their size"
Exactly.
Yep
Also just because she is losing weight doesn't mean she wants to be skinny she said it was for inflammation like in the videos she is still pluss sized just trying to eat more healthy
I made an anti-inflammation diet after I got food poisoned and it's meant to heal the gut, not lose weight. I didn't have to control my portions or anything, just eat a bit cleaner, avoid ultra processed foods and stuff that gives you gases (like raw veggies, dairy and beans). Those foods were reintroduced gradually as my IBS got better.
I'm doing this to, lost a considerable amount that I don't notice but people notice.
@@mercy4304 There are no foods proven to reduce inflammation. However, losing weight is indeed shown in multiple studies to improve systematic inflammatory markers found in one's blood. The only thing found in food that MAY be helpful is Omega 3 PUFAs. It's not clear-cut, but the evidence is either neutral of positive, so it's good to increase those Omega 3's.
But yes, if your gut has problems, avoiding foods that cause flair-ups is indeed helpful against localized inflammation (which is a perfectly valid goal. But localized inflammation isn't necessarily connected too much to long-term health outcomes. Nobody's dying from having inflamed muscles from a workout). Your systematic markers likely won't change much unless you're exercising more and/or losing weight.
But taking off the "uhm, ackshually" soapbox, I'm glad you're allowing more vitamins, minerals and nutrients into your diet. Those are all good to have. And I completely relate to your IBS troubles. FODMAPs are hell on the system sometimes.
exactly, this is the entire point of "health at every size."
@the-postal-dude yeah I think it's because she said the diet word but not all diets are too lose weight heck there are some wich are meant to gain weight if people are severly underweight
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I was disappointed that you didn’t mention how the body positivity movement started to begin with is because anyone considered “too fat” and thus automatically assumed to be “a lard cow who wants to die” are being endlessly harassed into suicidal ideation. It’s not about how “YOU HAVE TO BE FAT TO BE POPLAR BLLAARRRGGGHHH!! WE HATE BEING HEALTHY!!” It’s “We don’t deserve to be told to die just because we might be fat, we are still human beings.”
It’s why the people who are ridiculing her for adding a little food change are doubling down, it’s not about being healthy. It’s about dehumanizing people who are “too fat”, and bullying them into being skinny.
The implication that the harassment being received by fat people is just “them being told they need to be healthy” is absolutely stupid. Some people do need to manage weight, but trying to frame it as “See she wants to be better, see she might loose some weight snd thus automatically be healthier.” Is a very unfortunate implication to set.
True. A big part of the reason body positivity is a thing people are so sensitive about is not because fat people are criticized. It's because they are dehumanized. For years, television depicted fat people as shameless gluttons with no self awareness who disgust or inconvenience everyone around them, and they very idea of a fat person daring to view themselves as desirable was comically absurd or seen as revolting. Growing up I couldn't even let anyone touch or hug me because all I could ever think was how disgusted they must be to be touching me. These depictions not only destroy self esteem, but they normalize the dehumanization which just reinforces the demeaning way fat people are treated in real life.
I think it's absolutely fair to say some people in the body positive movement have lost the plot if they ever choose to harass anyone for losing weight or deny all health concerns, but the movement itself started and is still just trying to defend itself from absolutely vicious amounts of harassment and vitriol. Someone being fat is no ones business but that person, yet society raised these people up as 'acceptable targets' for mockery and that's just not okay. This is absolutely not an issue of people just being 'concerned for their health', and the mockery that this model received even by people who were telling her to lose weight shows that it was never about health concerns in the first place. It's just about fat people being the butt of the joke as always
“Growing up I couldn’t even let anyone hug or touch me bc all I could ever think was how disgusted they must be to be touching me” hit me like a freight train, I have horrible dysmorphia about my weight and still deal with this. I’ve never seen another person describe it this similarly before.
I try to remind myself that I’m kind of like the artist that can see every flaw in the art bc I “know how it’s supposed to look,” but people observing me don’t, and if they find me attractive or pretty, I kind of don’t get to tell them they’re objectively wrong. But there’s a difference between knowing that and being able to exist like that most days. I prefer body neutrality as a trans person anyway. No actually, I do need to change my body, and I don’t need to just get over it. My body deserves to live but so do I.
My perspective is that people with bigger bodies shouldn’t be treated like garbage and should be allowed to love themselves to make it easier to choose healthy lifestyles or feel confident going to the gym or showing their body in public. Self hatred breeds EDs and depression which are both hell for weight gain and self care, so loving yourself is good, but claiming that excessively heavy bodies are healthy is dangerous.
Some chunkier people are perfectly healthy- my sister is built like a tree and she’s the strongest person I know despite being thicc lol
Love yourself enough to be confident in who you are and so you can make choices to be more comfortable- because let’s face it, obesity is extremely uncomfortable and scary and can destroy your life if unchecked or enabled..
I'm one of those that don't like hearing "lose weight" as a solution to my problems.
1. I have been trying to lose weight for over a decade with zero progress. I'll lose 10 or 20 lbs and then, without changing anything, gain it all back.
2. The first time a doctor told me this, I was being seen about my knee pain. My athletic sister had the same knee pains and was prescribed braces and pain meds. Mine was labeled "growing pains" (which mayo clinic now says IS NOT A THING) and I was told losing weight would help... Thing is, I wasn't even technically overweight at the time. I was on the heavier side of the healthy weight for my height chart, but I was technically not even medically overweight yet. I was refused any treatment beyond weight loss advice.
3. The only time I lost anything more than 20 lbs was during pregnancy. Dropped from 280 lbs to 218 BOTH times. And I gained it all back in just over 2 months. It took me years to get to 280 from 218 the first time.
4. A lot of my health issues are also shared by healthy weighted people. And a lot of these issues I had LONG before I even neared 150 lbs.
I also want to clarify that I don't think I'm healthy. At all. I know my weight is in fact complicating things. But I'd be unhealthy even at the ideal weight for my height and age. I'm still trying to lose weight, but it is feeling hopeless since nothing seems to work.
I also have a severely injured back caused by taking a tumble down a mother flipping water fall, and this has impeded my ability to do any heavy lifting workouts. It's getting better, so I hope to try to weight train or do Pilates soon, but I will have to ease into it slowly.
Also, most fat people didn't choose to be fat, have been told for years to lose weight, and know it's not healthy. We don't need to waste money on a doctor to tell us "losing weight will help".
Yeah, there’s good intentions, but a lot of people don’t really understand the nuances regarding weight
@@wintersupremacy to clarify, I don't mind when strangers say it. They don't know me or my medical history.
I mainly have a problem with doctors charging me or my family hundreds of dollars just to tell me "just lose weight".
@@arose92795 I can really sympathize with this. I lost 100lbs on accident, and it improved so much of my health issues, but that was still no excuse for my doctor to not notice that some of my back pain was from scoliosis. Sure, it's not a completely huge curve in my spine, but it's still *there*, and it causes me issues. Not to mention I had been hit by a car and landed on my back as a child as well. The doc was very good at brushing me aside.
That being said, I'm sorry to see you've been struggling at losing weight all this time. Tbh, the only thing that helped me was increasing protein and fiber. I don't eat super differently than how I did before, I just increased those things, which made me naturally decrease the less helpful foods. And I move more than I ever have. Whether that just be walking on my rickety treadmill that's been in my backroom since before I was born... (I'm 24, for reference) while on a call or before bed. Or choosing to learn a physically active skill. Also, gaining muscle made things easier.
But losing 100lbs (very unhealthily... I was so stressed to the point of making myself feel too ill to eat and I lost it within about 3 months) out of nowhere didn't prepare me for the work that I would have to put in to keep that weight off and still try to recover and maintain health. Holy moly, this whole fight we all have to fight to maintain our bodies.... it's a heck of a thing, aint it?
It seems that when ur overweight, doctors are more likely to chalk up your health problems to "lose weight" which is...honestly really gross. I've heard pleeeenty of stories where someone went to multiple doctors until one *actually* seriously considered and looked into their condition. I can only speak for the USA but for as much money as we have to put into healthcare, it *sucks.* especially if ur afab. If so, good luck being taken seriously.
@@derpkipper it turns out that in my charts they actually think I might have lupus. They never told me this until I got another new doctor. I suspected I might have pots or ehlers-danlos syndrome, but it seems like lupus might fit my symptoms better. Including the fact that I am having such a hard time losing weight already.
PONDER SPROCKET ??? ON MY BIRTHDAY !???!?!?
Happy Birthday~!
Happy birth
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!! 🎂🎁🎈🎉🎊
@@pondersprocket2274 Thank you !!! So excited for this one
This is one of the few videos I will comment on.
As a child growing up, I was definitely on the chubbier side. I hated exercise mainly due to how I was “taught” how to exercise where if you didn’t feel like you were about to pass out and every muscle screamed in pain, then you were doing it wrong. I also loved to eat all sorts of things that were unhealthy.
I was very short so the weight became more prominent and I ended up being a very late bloomer so I had the appetite of someone going through puberty but with none of the changes going on.
Mind you, I didn’t have the most unhealthy diet among my peers, I would even argue some of them ate way worse and way more than I did… but I was the overweight kid.
The amount of comments I would get from my peers, from school staff, and even some random strangers in other classes bore into me and I eventually started to eat less and less… to an unhealthy degree.
I started to “forget” meals and even throw up other meals… a few times I even “punished myself” by trying to skip a meal like I saw so many people on TV do. I did begin to lose weight but I felt miserable. Funny thing was… I was praised by peers and staff for a while. Eventually though my health took a toll for the worse and I developed a chronic health condition.
I had to learn how to eat all over again, this time with a much stricter diet that required an immense amount of calories just to maintain my weight. I struggled for multiple years just to maintain a weight that was even in the triple digits and just like before… I got all sorts of comments and looks from peers and adults.
I had a few even state that they were jealous of my medical condition because I could eat as much as I wanted and not gain weight. I had others spread rumors that I was doing hard narcotics just because I was so thin and pale that I shivered in 80-90°F weather.
So many people put so much focus on the number on a scale without considering how the person may be feeling both physically and mentally. Neither extreme is healthy in the slightest.
Thankfully I am in a place where I am doing much better, I just need to ignore the stupid comments I occasionally get from people trying to tell me what is best for me and my diet without knowing how anything may affect me. That’s for me and my trusted and medically licensed care system to decide.
I have been fat for majority of my life (I'm in my 30s now). My weight goes up and down and because I am tall it is hard to notice at times but I am fat weight wise and size wise. I was joined a community of "healthy and loved at any sizes" things, not Tess' specifically this was years ago, and it was just full of fat people. There were very few people on there who weren't overweight and then when someone did join who was considered "thin" or one of the people started posting about their weight loss journey, they were immediately shunned and bullies into leaving.
I realised then it wasn't a body acceptance, it was a coping thing. it was a group of people in their echo chambers getting validation for their size when society shunned them. And I will be the first to say society has a problem with how it views overweight people, but claiming to be body positive and then hissing at a skinny person is just the same malice as a thin person making fun of someone who is fat.
So whenever I see an influencer like Tess or like the many other over weight influencers I always get a bad vibe because it is just the same thing. It's not loved at any size, it's just to be a coping habit for people. So yeah it's no surprise when Tess changes her diet, her fans are seething. And it's also no surprise her critics are as well because it's just as much as a cope for them. Society won't view them as scum if they're making fun of a fat person because they can excuse it as "caring for health" and they lose that when that fat person is showing to lose that weight. It's just a circle jerk of coping.
One of the best parts about Ponder is their bluntness, it lends to a much easier to understand video with several different perspectives
Also, do appreciate the content warning, as someone who can space out while listening to videos
The stigma I had when I had a massive ovarian cyst (26.2 lbs) gave me a small insight into how larger people are seen and treated, the amount of people who asked if I was pregnant was ridiculous. I felt the pressure to lose weight and gain back my “girlish figure”. When I did have surgery (which I am thankful that I was able to afford/get) I faced the alternative of compliments that were backhanded, I remember a nurse joking that I “basically had a tummy tuck” while I was in the hospital.
All in all, I was able to get a small snapshot in this discourse. I’m so thankful that Ponder mentioned the medical issues.
I'm glad that that trait can be beneficial in some cases because Cthulhu knows my propensity to just blurt out the truth when asked a question has gotten me into some hot water before, lol.
@@pondersprocket2274I call that the neurodivergent anti-rizz. Gotta love when you’re a bit too blunt in a comment you thought was alright lmao
Thank you for talking about Gaza, truly, I'll never forget the Twitter user who was an artist and they lost their dominant arm in an attack.
During the Lebanon explosion there was a viral video of a bride making her wedding video, in the Genocide she was one of the victims, she had degrees, she had her life before her, she was young, and she was just married.
Everyone who talks about Hamas like to point at the child death when in Gaza newborns literally starve to death.
I am pro Palestine.
But not pro Hamas.
Hamas, at the end of the day, Is a terrorist organisation that is using the suffering of their brethren to gain power.
If they somehow win, they will redirect their hatred towards all the palestinian people who don't agree with their views.
It's a complex situation, like always.
Here in my country, Italy, the mentality that Hamas are heroes is becoming weirdly prevalent amongst youths and university students, wich is why Italian Hebrews feel threatened and many students stopped going to school after some teachers were even attacked.
I am NOT pro Israel, at all, Israel sucks ass.
But these reactions are ridiculous and don't help anyone.
Yea I already had massive respect for ponder before I found out about Gaza but my respect for them has just skyrocketed I'm really glad there are creators like this for using their work to help those who need it because it is devastating to see so many lives lost and then people blame the victims it makes me sick
I think what makes me the most upset about this is that an anti inflammatory diet is not inherently a weight lose diet. My mom is obese, has pre diabetes, and has arthritis, so she does have to diet, because of the two aforementioned health conditions. However, her diet isn’t focused on losing weight, but reducing pain from her arthritis. While it would be right of me to assume Tess’ medical history, I wouldn’t be shocked either if this diet was for helping with arthritis, not for losing weight.
Hey so... I'm an internet person, so obv feel free to like, double-check with a REGISTERED Dietitian (not a nutritionist), but arthritis is a systemic issue, so wouldn't your mother need to reduce systematic inflammation? Because there's no scientifically proven "anti-inflammatory diet" that exists, unless you count things like Low FODMAP for IBS, Gluten free for Celiac Disease, or avoiding intolerances/allergies. But all of those are not what your blood markers show for systematic inflammation related to longevity. The only things we know that provably help systematic inflammation is losing fat, moving more/exercising, or *potentially* consuming more Omega 3 PUFAs.
This is just information I learned from watching content from Dr. Layne Norton (Who has a BS in Biochemistry and PhD in Nutrition Sciences and has multiple scientific publications, and always sources all of his claims to reputable sources, so I think his information shared is trustworthy personally)
The Jocat stuff was so stupid. I like seeing men embrace finding different body types attractive. And if he was lying about finding all types of bodies attractive, who really cares? 🤷♀️
Yeah like you can still apricated different body types without finding them attractive like you can give someone a compliment without being attacked to them
Exactly. Does a person have to be attracted to everyone to make the statement 'Everybody is beautiful'? that seems stupidly restrictionary as rules go.
@incompletemachine877 yeah if a women saids a woman is beautiful people don't assume she is attacked to her I think people assumed because he's a guy
Not just body types but women's body types, oh my god, a man states that likes women, Call the fucking police...
I didn't even know he was getting hate for that like why are we so quick to hate on someone just trying to spread a positive message? It feels like anytime someone tries to do something good, people immediately want to either tear them down or scrutinize their move an action to see if they're being "genuine"
I generally agree with all that is said, as my own issues aren't things I want to glorify despite how hard it is to change.
However a point if like to bring up is that neurodiversity can also play a factor as some people ,with autism for example, may indulge in unhealthy routine due to fear of breaking it. I eat too much sweet food as I have insomnia and depression and as a result I developed a routine and I avoid breaking it irrationally due to my autism. I desperately want to incooperate healthier parts but money and habits are sucky.
This behaviour can manifest in other ways I'm sure like obsessive exercise or fasting in others ofc and ultimately I just hope to find peace in my own body regardless of standards.
Heck there was a thing people where talking about a bit ago called almond moms wich would insist that their child isn't actually hungry and encourage under eating
Why almond moms as a name?
@@DestinyKiller it came from a clip of Yolanda Hadid telling her daughter Gigi Hadid (pretty well know model) to only chew a few almonds. Also the discussion around almond mom's or almond parenting became even bigger when Gweneth Paltrove discussed what she ate in a day and a lot of people where calling her the finally boss of almond mom's because of her very concerning diet. Also this is only the cliff notes version of it.
Ohhhhh, ok, that makes sense, thank you!
Wait, JoCat got HATE for that? Granted, I haven't seen the full video (just clips) but are people genuinely mad at him for doing WHAT THE ORIGINAL SONG DID? Am I missing something?
idk if that was the video that did it but he left the online space for hate so the man seems to attract a lot of hate.
I think it was because he isn't actually attractive to every body type but I don't find that really bad since you can still apricate different body types without being attracted to them. For example I preffer bigger people but that doesn't mean I can't call a skinny person handsome or pretty.
He legit got bullied off the internet for it, yes. As someone in the D&D community it was something that sickened me. :/
@@trixxart777 That's what the original song was about anyways, no? I mean, the original lyrics includes "[I like] gays boys", so I'm pretty sure it's just about appreciating all boys and not necessarily that the singer is attracted to them
Cringe culture, its wasnt even bad but people wanted to get mad so they found a reason to
To be honest, I’ve never seen an issue with people losing weight in the body positivity movement. I have seen an issue with some influencers losing weight and then turning around and accepting sponsorships from crash diets or scam weight loss supplements. There are insane people at the fringes who are definitely feeders / into feederism and those are largely the ones who flip out when people lose weight.
That said, I recently gained a ton of weight because of a medical issue I’m still trying to get diagnosed (it look 9 months for an MRI and I’m losing it because the only doctor I have is a at a walk in clinic) and found the core of the messaging of the movement important. I am trying to lose weight but this is totally hormonal, I’m barely eating as it is. I do wish that there’d been a little more mindfulness that the core of this movement is just to accept your body and that your body and weight are no one’s business, and seeing people like Tess does do a service to folks when you feel like control over your body and weight has been yanked from your control. You’re motivated to lose weight when you’re supported, when you’re abused at every corner you’re more likely to sink into a pit and want to disappear.
As someone who has been under weight for most of my life, this can absolutely go both ways. I’ve been called skinny, thin, or even twig-like by random strangers, friends, or even people in my family. It was a nickname that was used on me for years as a kid. It made me self conscious about the way I looked or how my ribs showed and that pushed me to eat more even though I had a small appetite. This just made me dislike eating as I felt like I never ate enough.
Moreover, when I developed depression in my teen years, I felt like I didn’t deserve food. When I realized I was Transgender, I felt like I needed to be thin in order to appease my gender dysphoria. A lot of different things can attribute to why a person doesn’t eat enough or eats to much. You never know what is going on in a persons head and what they have been through. Pushing them to do something or another can just make the situation worse over time, as it is ultimately their body and their decision to make for themselves, wether they realize the pros and cons of it or not.
People also tend to forget, excessive weight gain can be a symptom of medical issues, not the cause. Like with thyroid problems, knee problems, medications, etc. This can make receiving medical treatment hard or even impossible, because often times people will say "Just lose the weight!" as a cure, and not realize that in order to lose the weight they need the root problem addressed.
For instance, I knew a person who had knee issues for a very long time, before she gained weight. She couldn't receive help for this due to circumstances we lived in, and by the time she could her knee pain had already caused her weight gain. Seems like a clear case from the outside. Fat person -> joint pain -> just lose the weight -> no more joint pain, but because people were only seeing it from that surface level and wouldn't listen to her other information, and so her knee osteoarthritis went untreated for years.
I am intersex with a plethora of hormonal health conditions, and losing weight is virtually impossible for me, especially since I have AIS. I’m really active and exercise daily. It’s frustrating when family and strangers say “You should lose weight!” when I’m happy with my body and know that I’m as healthy as I can be at the moment
As someone who has also had wildly fluctuating weight since childhood, this was an interesting watch.
I was underweight for entirety of my childhood, till my teen years hit. Since then, i had been considered fat and had heard really mean comments regarding my body from my friends, teachers, parents, relatives, literally everyone.
When i reached highschool i got into the habit of skipping meals on a daiky basis which caused me to rapidly lose weight and literally everyone around me praised the change. I had the worst eating habits and everyone applauded me for it essentially. Nobody knew the full truth ofc, they assumed it was a mix of better exercise and diet, but still it also kinda hurt how the minute you were considered thin, noone questions how you got there but everyone hyperanalyses you and your eating habits when you are overweight.
During the pandemic i once again gained weight and was diagnosed with pcos on my first gynec visit, which meant that any and all future visits, despite the problem i was complaining or not complaining about, i was always told to lose weight. Mind you, this was in the middle of pandemic in my final two years of school, which meant that my entire day was spent online schooling, coaching classes, self study and college admission work. Most of my friends also had the same routine as me, but bcs they just didn't tend to put on weight, no one ever questioned them or belittled them about their bodies or daily habits the way i was.
Currently im in college and just the general routine of running around and having an active lifestyle means that my weight remains at a healthy level without fluctuating wildly in either direction.
But i still have really bad eating habits wherein i constantly avoid eating if i feel like i haven't done "enough" or just forget to eat for 2ish days.
My point being, idc if ppl are doing it just to get paid, but i really appreciated the body acceptance movement which was about liking your body as it was. I see the nuances of requiring change if needed for the person's betterment and i hate how some ppl can only see it in extremes (you eat all junk food in existence or you are on an extreme diet)
Food and body is such an individual situation, i wish we could just appreciate that nuance and respect ppl as they live without tearing each other down over such things
i personally think that everyone should mind their own business when it comes to body types, i’m very skinny and struggle to do anything physical because of it, zero muscle mass just a bunch of sticks covered in skin and no one has ever told me that “they’re worried about my health” or that “my unhealthy lifestyle is concerning” and i think that’s the real problem! it’s never about the health of the person it’s literally just fat-phobia.
I’ve always struggled with weight because of a lot of factors and generally have to stay away from these topics online because of how… needlessly un-empathetic people seem to get, thank you for covering this topic in such a good way
I’m a 17 year old midsize person (average size is like a 12-14/15, or between Medium and Xtra Large) and I struggle with Hashimotos disease that was diagnosed when I was around 12 and I’ve struggled with my weight since I was around 6 or 7. I was essentially given an eating disorder by my first endocrinologist, he told me, a 12 year old girl (I’m transmasc), to immediately go down to eating 30 net carbs PER DAY! I’ve never hated eating more than I did then. I was put on levothyroxine to account for my underactive thyroid and that doctor overall treated me like a little kid and didn’t take into account how being on that strict of a diet when it wasn’t completely necessary was insane, to the point where I was getting migraines from lack of nutrition and constantly felt nauseous and went on to have a binge eating disorder for a few years that I still struggle with.
Fast forward to a few months ago and I start seeing a new doctor and she genuinely gasped when I told her the diet my previous doctor had put me on and that I had been on the same dose of medication for almost 5 years with no changes. Her advice was around 40 net carbs per meal, she put me on a slightly higher dose of my medication, and gave me actual tips on how to be healthier and lose weight with my disease since I was almost pre diabetic at the time. After 3 months and a lot of work I lost 15 pounds and the first thing the med student who talked to me before her asked was if it was intentional, I had never been asked that about my weight fluctuation before. I’ve accepted that I’ll always be midsize due to my build, genetics, and condition but I feel like that all goes to show how even for kids and teens, some doctors have an implicit bias in how they treat larger patients and in my case it seemed there was a hint of sexism at play as well
All that to say, I’m thriving physically
As someone who has a mom that smokes, absolutley. I can tell you from the age of 11 I felt the urge to smoke get gradually worse. and it still haunts the back of my mind four years later. I feel awful for my mum, but after roughly 13/14 years of dealing with it I've just accepted it. She has tried quitting before but relapsed. In all honesty though my mom smoking does not define her. She is a wonderful women and it hurts to see addictive substances take the nicest of peoples lives away.(I'm 15 btw to clairfy, my mum quit smoking for roughly a year or two)
Though I haven't gotten through the whole video yet, I already resonate with the topic. I am overweight, but not by much, and I'm actually pleased with where my body is at. I'm battling depression and I'm also currently battling my picky nature so I'm happy I'm even taking the time to eat at all. My main goal at this point is to just survive, yet I still have family hounding me at every turn about my weight. I know I don't eat the healthiest, but I eat healthy enough to keep going until I'm in a spot where I can focus on improving my health.
I feel like attaching weight so closely to working out isn't always the best.
It can create an unhealthy perspective for some people, including myself for the longest time.
Now that I've figured out i have hypermobility, exercise is about keeping my body going and from collapsing on itself.
I actually feel like exercise is worth it to me now.
Just a little antidote ig
I am SO glad that you mentioned PCOS and thyroid issues.
I gained a lot of weight due a medical condition (not thyroid related BUT the only treatment was literally 3 months of a steroid medication that causes weight gain) and because of PCOS even while actively going to the gym, having good eating habits, and improving health wise, I didn't lose a SINGLE pound over the course of SEVERAL months.
Best part: the only treatment that my first gynecologist would even consider to ease my PCOS symptoms was telling me to lose weight. Y'know, the weight that my PCOS was preventing me from losing by any other way than getting close to ED territory of diet restriction. I switched dr's pretty quickly.
On the OPPOSITE end, my sister has thyroid issues, to the point that her thyroid was so hyperactive that it HAD to be removed so it didn't kill her. She struggles to gain weight and at times has been dangerously underweight for no reason under her active control.
My partner was extremely overweight for quite some time, and the largest contributors to that were depression and a DEBILITATING ankle issue that prevented her from working out.
(Side note, while we know that exercise in the water would have been a viable method but the area we live in and our income level made that near impossible because outside of summer months, water exercise isn't an option.)
Trying to get the ankle injury treated, she KEPT only receiving advice that she should exercise to lose weight and the ankle would get better. Exercise in small amounts inflamed the injury SO badly that she could barely walk for several days after. Literally was stuck in a catch 22, needed her ankle better to exercise to lose weight but needed to lose weight for her ankle to get better. Medically necessary weight loss surgery was the only route left open to her and now she's doing much better but until doctors ACKNOWLEDGED that, she was so trapped.
Weight is such a complex issue and people tend to look at it too black and white, and the extreme views on either end certainly don't help.
I think a lot of people don't realize that some people with certain genetics can be bigger regardless of what they do. Many larger people have eating disorders like bulimia and anorexia, these disorders don't have a certain "look"
"Your audience didn't get you to where you are. You did."
Acknowledging your audience's part in your success does not dismiss your own hard work. Yes, you can work hard to become a public figure and yes, should your audience turn on you, it is possible to build another, but every person with a job needs to consider what their intended customers want, including public figures. Unless you're a crook, your customers are what determine your success in your career. If you no longer want those particular customers or if you don't care for their specific approval, it is up to you to decide if it's worth the risk trying to get another target demographic, but that still speaks to your audience getting you to where you are.
In my experience, being around chain smokers made me hate smoking with a passion I wouldnt touch a cig if it meant dying on the spot.
Same with alcoholics. I imbibe one or two alcoholic drinks a year because two of my abusive stepfathers were alcoholics.
5:22 Doctors are quick to try and blame a persons weight for their health problems and refuse to do any testing. My mom had a Doctor say “Lose weight and we can talk about dealing with this surgery you need.” My mom did not see her again. She went to a different doc and he said “So, when you wanna schedule this surgery?”
(Edit: for Grammer fixes)
Some doctors can be so autopilot and stubborn about being in the right. They just don't actually listen to the root of the problem. Or try to think of another reason why someone is experiencing the symptoms or if the weight gain is the medical symptom of something deeper.
B, will you be making a video on everything about doodletones, lio, nezzimonster, the FCK server etc? I feel like your input and usual researching is genuinely needed in this case, especially since things are so convoluted and serious.
thank you for bringing up PCOS into the discussion. as someone who has it weight loss for me has been extremely difficult. so seeing it be humanized and shown in a more natural light is very nice. even for a brief moment
What on earth is happening to the thumbnail????? I'm all here for it lol
Das what happens when you're me. And you haven't finished the thumbnail by the time you scheduled the upload because you needed a nap and to take your dog on a hike.
I'm bad at my job is what I'm saying.
Speed draw thumbnail is not what I was expecting, but honestly I’m all for it
1st off, fantastic video, I loved it, great to listen to :3
2nd off, thank you for speaking about not only Gaza, but Congo AND Sudan. Its great to see creators on other platforms spreading the word about whats going on, outside of tiktok.
3rd off
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idunno have a good day :3
The only thing I know about her is that one magazine cover that everyone was complaining about "glorifying obesity" and making fun of her a couple years ago
Oftentimes those "critics" don't really care about the creator's health (even though they claim that they do). They just want to make people feel bad. They're the same kind of people who would laugh at a fat person in a gym or actively jogging. They're doing exactly what those critics bullied them into (let's just call it what it is), but it's STILL not good enough. Even worse if the creator gets plastic surgery. Then they get criticized for "taking the easy road" and "not putting in any effort". A lot of the time, fat people can't win online...
Those "critics" are based off of only 2 videos that Ponder found when there's a plethora of videos on RUclips from various creators giving valid criticisms that she didn’t bother to mention.
Rewatching this rn since I wasn't able to see the first half and I already appreciate this significantly!
I was more so on the weight loss side of things, born a chubby baby n' all. Had anorexia issues at like 4th grade or so, and I still have issues today with remembering to eat (shocker, I'm in bedrest rn, 100 my fault)
I've been watching for a few good years now, and love how you show multiple perspectives, each side and blunt transparency! It's insanely refreshing no matter from where you stand upon such topics, at least within my own opinion.
BUT, this makes me feel really happy this is addressed with such care and as much research as you always do, Ponder! I absolutely adore your work
My friend and i talked about something similar to this. She's tall and hourglass shaped and im short, heavy and apple shaped.i wanted to lose a ton of weight to an unhealthy degree and eventually i stopped when we talked about it i told her i wasnt trying to lose weight to look good or be healthy i just wanted to be treated like a person and so i thought losing weight would help and eventually i juat gave up and decided to go at my own pace because realistically I'll never be good enough for society
Got my drawing pen and tablet ready! So excited for the premier!
Hi Ponder, I relate to you swinging in the opposite of weight for your height. I have always been underweight my whole life. I remember as a kid I was never represented on a weight chart for my height. I have slowly gained weight over time but I still am considered underweight. It's something I have been self-conscious about for a long time. Really informative video as always
I really hate how invested people get in other people’s lives. Even if someone is intentionally choosing to be fat…okay? Let them do their thing. Some people are so invested in calling other people names and like…why?
I very much appreciate this vid, tho I think one thing missing from the analysis (which has been brought up in this comment section a few times in different forms and respect to you Ponder for hearting those comments) is that the push to disconnect "weight" and "health" isn't so much about the actual science of it as the way that that connection is used *as a justification for fat-shaming and systemic fatphobia.* For example, in the case of people refusing to take weight loss suggestions from doctors, that is because the suggestion of weight loss often comes with a refusal to *actually investigate a patient's other symptoms* - something that already happens enough to women and people of color. In the case of "we should be able to eat what we want without ostracization or judgement" it's not policing people's automatic bias response, it's saying "a fat person shouldn't have to be making the perfect dietary choices or give up their enjoyment of food for you to give them basic human respect." It's not about your immediate thought, its about shifting away from acting on a framework that equates higher BMI with moral deficit. (Which also means getting rid of the notion of 'good, healthy' fat people and 'bad, lazy, unhealthy' fat people)
That being said, no one should be shamed for any kind of shift in their body weight OR talking about lifestyle changes and their own personal comfort with how they look.
Ok, loved the video, but the ending section…my god, thank you! The fact that I see so few creators I watch talking about any of these issues, is honestly starting to get on my nerves.
poggers its ponder sprockets.
I love that, this *puts it on my wall of happy phrases* this pleases my brain.
I'd like to add to this conversation with my own family's history. Both my mom and maternal grandmother were skinny in their youth but then later became fat, not obese, just mom-bod plus-sized.
In my youth, I'm still able to eat a lot to the point where I can be absolutely stuffed without gaining weight, meanwhile my mom for a long period struggled with diets but still remained the same. It is very likely that I'm going to be the same as my grandmother and mom because of our genetic metabolism changing as we age.
I usually don't watch videos dealing with weight. I am susceptible to unhealthy eating habits, but decided to give this one a go because i know Ponder and Bee always cover things with tact, and i wasn't dissapointed!
I would like to say, that "skinny culture", just people proposing the only healthy bodytype is not only bonkers but also damaging to the mentally unwell. I personally take a cocktail of 4 varieties of medications (8 pills total) 2 of which are known to cause apetite fluctuation, one is known for weight gain, and one for a direct and severe short burst of extremely high appetite. Im personally a perfectly healthy weight, and despite that i get called chubby, abd that i should take off some pouvss, despite that being nigh impossible with my current mefication.
Its important to note that from a biological standpoint, especially for female born individuals, or individuals with hormone ongoings similar to that of a female person. Fat is not unhealthy, it's the body's way of preparing for famine and protecting itself ,(it cushions, protects from physical trauma, insulates, etc.) and the body is built with it in mind, again, especially for female born people. You know as far as evolution is concerned that animal is about to produce another animal, having a little extra in the reserves is beneficial.
This is why female born I, with my thunder thighs, am a healthy weight, and it's disapointing that people expect people to have supermodel bodies.
On the other hand, my sister *does* have a supermodel body. She is tall, with long legs, and is skinny, too skinny, she is slightly underweight, and her doctors urge her to gain some and despite her efforts, she does not. And she has frequently expressed to me similar issues. She gets ostracized for promoting unhealthy body standards just by existing.
I don't really have a neat way to tie this comment up, just though alla this was important to mention, great work, keep it up! Love your videos, they help my art productivity a ton :P
I love how all of this was triggered by her changing her diet FOR REASONS THAT AREN’T RELATED TO WEIGHT LOSE. It’s for inflammatory issues my god. Like I’m an adult now. I got acid reflux, and have begun cutting soda and mint out of my diet. Like 50% of diets have nothing to do with your weight, and all the people who see someone dieting for their health, as an attack, are very revealing.
Considering that plus size people have existed far back as Roman’s prime I believe that there should be acceptance to plus size people. As long as there is encouragement for self betterment for those who choose it and assurance there’s no shame for your body then I believe these cuddle bunnies deserve acceptance. I’m coming from a stance and experience of which my mother bickered at me for not losing weight even though I was slightly chubby not even fat or skinny I was down the middle but closer towards chubby. And I also believe there should be acceptance to underweight people too and should receive the same encouragement and comfort. Both ends deserve the love and encouragement not to mention making information on how people can take proper steps to better themselves would be great and obviously there should be more than just a one way or the highway. Everyone is different so dedicating research to that and safe ways to do it is always encouraged by me. No one deserves to starve themselves to their breaking point just to lose a few pounds and no one should be forced to eat till they feel like vomiting.
story time! so i have tachycardia, likely bc of a genetic disorder i have, and i had to quit going on daily walks bc i would almost pass out just going to the mailbox (before, i could walk like a couple of miles no issue.)
i go to a heart doctor. im fairly thin. TECHNICALLY overweight, but not by much.
he tells me i need to work out.
i try to explain that i was, and had to stop due to the heart issues.
he still blamed my lack of exercise.
so yeah i just stopped caring. im about 190-200 pounds at 5'8, but you likely wouldnt be able to tell at a glance. if i work out again, itll be for ME. not bc i need to "lose weight". weight isnt my problem rn, im just overall weak. if i lose weight in the meantime? cool! but i aint gonna push myself.
tdlr: weight doesnt matter unless it matters to YOU. dont let anyone tell you youre gross or evil for a few extra pounds. live your life, have fun, and buy yourself a treat bc damn it youve earned it
that being said, wanting to lose weight isnt BAD. it just shouldnt be forced on you. if you wanna take that step, go ahead! ive considered getting a dietician to help me balance my diet a bit more. dieting isnt always for weight loss either, it could be for a medical condition, or maybe to give yourself more to work with when working out. her diet was for inflammation.
Even though I don’t know what is going on since I’m just getting flashback of the whole illymation situation (which is another reason why I dislike the commentary bros). I’ll watch anything that you put out since the videos are relaxing but a headache due to the situations either being illegal, people being dumb and toxic, with a hint of bigotry.
As fan of Illymations I'm disappointed in her because she decided to post on her Tumblr account to have her fans mass report ThinkBeforeYouSleep's response video when she should've just ignored it. I don't like TBYS or channels associated or similar to him and Illy definitely shouldn't have been doxxed, but that doesn't mean Illy doesn't deserve valid criticisms. The situation has been blown out of proportion making it drama, but there are channels discussing without making it dramatic.
thankyou for mentioning reasons why people may gain weight! i have hypothyroid and it makes it difficult to stay at a consistent weight
The don't dig in my garden bit caught me offguard and had me cackling, kudos
I have Avoidant Restrictive Food Intake Disorder, or ARFID for short, which means I can only eat a very limited variety of foods since everything else tastes or smells gross to me. Unfortunately, I also have acid reflux, which means that my stomach acids are a lot more volatile than normal. So I need to eat a lot so I don't feel pain, but also my diet is incredibly limited and is mostly "unhealthy" foods like sweets and snacks. You can probably see the issue here.
I've been gaining weight recently, and my mom has been portioning down the food. This has worked in losing weight, but also it means I have been having more stomach cramps. Coincidentally today has been the worst.
So... there isn't really a good solution I can see. Either I get fat to a healthy degree but am shamed for it, I get fat to an unhealthy degree, or I'm in pain. And for anyone who tries to comment "well have you tried other foods???" or something like that, you should try a change in attitude about neurodivergent people.
I feel like part of the problem in regards to weight is no one acknowledges how hard it is to lose weight when you're fat. Critics will say "just lose weight" like all you need to do is take a jog once a week and then you'll be cured. They act like its some easy fix and that the fat person isn't doing these 5 simple hacks to shed the pounds. Yes, people can make bad health choices but can we not act like losing weight is some easy task. It's a long process that requires effort for years, not a quick fix. So when someone who understands the struggle of how much effort it will take gets told to just lose some pounds like its easy, they tend to get disheartened. Hopelessness is a hell of a feeling. I just want people to encourage others to make healthier choices like eating better or moving more that isn't tied to a number or a physical look. I think in the end people need to keep their comments about others weight choices and situations to themselves
Since its on topic and to add a sprinkle of positivity; i am still so impressed that Nickicado lost all that weight. He really does look much happier now :]
its a good day when ponder posts
I haven't heard of her before this, but I do think it's important to recognize that people aren't inherently malicious most of the time. Like, there's a lot of potential explanations for her behavior that don't paint her in a negative light, and a lot of people don't seem to recognize that. (That's something I've always appreciated with your content- a willingness to give benefit of doubt and provide leeway for positive or neutral interpretations of someones behavior that don't inherently imply malicious intentions.) Generally I just wish people would be more willing to be open-minded when it comes down to the actions and behaviors of others- a lot of the time people treat any deviation from being as objectively good a person as possible as some kind of betrayal or revealing of true evil nature, when in reality it could just be a fuckup or change of subjective opinion.
coming back to this video after nikocado just dropped the plot twist of the century is killing me actually
No joke the first minute of what you said is 100% what I strive to do as well
Had a bit of a hick up today it hearing say that made me feel better and sparked the drive back up, to see the world as a better place one step at a time
Your videos are totally worth the wait.
Can't really look at it in a black/white sense. Many factors like: encouraging a mind set, having a community that accepts you, using the community as an excuse to do something that is positive/negative, it's a kink/fetish, etc. It's kinda everything all at once and there's not really a right/wrong answer. Either capitalize on the situation and whatever your goal(s) is just maneuver until it becomes ideal or just keep trying to please whatever group is the loudest and hopefully you don't self-destruct.
Ultimately, you just have to focus on yourself and whatever comes from it is both something you earned on your own merits and that there's enough of a community to support whatever it is you're providing for you to have a career of.
tfw Jocat should not have gotten hate for showing different body types and enjoying women tbh.
Me 🤝 B
Have medical conditions that usually cause weight gain but struggle to put on weight
Woah what a wild coincidence, I just binged about ten of your videos. Thanks for moreee!!!
Thank you Ponder for always providing a space for important conversations like these. You always have a very clear nuance to your videos and topics you talk about that the internet needs, BADLY.
I myself am a very short person, im only 4'9 (or 4'10 idk at this point, its easy to forget). And I will not be growing anymore, that was my last shot essentially. I used to eat a lot as a kid, a very hungry gremlin but lost my appetite around 5 years ago, which was when my body was hitting the last of its physical growing stage. This video really sticks with me for a lot of reasons. I struggle to eat enough, I've lost a lot of weight and due to medication I take, it reduces it even further. But I'm at a stage where I eat enough to stay healthy and go on walks every now and then. Thats how I maintain my body. I admit, I need to take better care of what I eat but I'm making an active effort and change. People in my life have also changed their habits to healthier, and yes, their lives have improved.
This whole thing is just sad that such a positive message can cause so much hate from all sides.
I'm physically disabled which has influenced my physical appearance and at first I saw the movement as a potential change. A way for people to be more accepting and respectful. Understanding the fact people's bodies are different. But as soon as it started promoting unhealthy habits, I couldn't stick with it.
I have lost family to smoking, an unhealthy habit within your control. Excessive eating and obesity follows the same idea. Yes, there are medical reasons but thats unrelated. This is a very complex issue with so much grey area there is no right answer. Trying to simplify the issue is part of the problem.
Moral of the story, being healthy is different to every person and we should be understanding of that. But using the movement as an excuse for your own indulgence is your own choice. That is YOUR own fault.
At this point, people need to teach themselves respect. We have lost it in any attempt to better our communities and that comes from all sides of the argument.
It’s a good day when Ponder uploads
I’m about 20 minutes in, so im not fully sure wether or not this is addressed, but as a fat person myself, part of the problem with fatphobia is that we get categorically UNPERSONED by society at large. We’re often an afterthought at best, at worst we are demonized and looked at as less than people. THAT is what “even if we’re fat by choice, fatphobia is wrong” is abt. Just bc someone likes food and likes eating, it doesn’t mean they deserve to be depersoned by the world around them. (Not mad or upset)
Ok actually this was entirely the wrong direction I thought the video was going sndndndkdk sorry for my rant. I had no idea who Tessa was, and I was responding to your comments about people being fat “by choice” getting hurt by fatphobia.
I was NOT expecting what the meat of the video was about, as I’m not really…. On that side of the internet
@@necrxStardust Regardless, I still agree with your insight and I thank you for offering it~
Yo Ponder speaking as a former friend I have a good question. . .WTAF WAS UP WITH THE SASU CALL? Never have I ever thought you would stoop so low as to emotionally manipulate someone with serious mental issues to admit an intrusive thoughts he had in the past so the people in that call can dogpile him. No I'm not saying Sasu is a saint or needs to be coddled, he clearly needs psychological help but that call was absolutely disgusting on so many levels!
I'm kinda shocked not many are talking about it. It's really disappointing to see- 😔😔
@@molinagrn65not many people are talking about the predators and enablers in the fck, just Doodletones and Nezziemonster because it’s trendy. So I’m not surprised.
Why do you always gonna bring up drama. Just to get attention or something
how r u gonna drop this and not. give more details or where to find this?
@@kaijuteethLeighaSomething did a stream on it. Just a warning, it’s really disturbing.
I would sell my soul to have the patience and self-control needed to make art with as much detail as that thumbnail.
26:45
No matter what, people on the internet will just be bullies. Peoples penchant for negativity to such a degree fuckin astounds me.
It's bizarre and kinda freaky how often Ponder's uploads exactly correlate to me wondering where she's been and looking up her channel. It's happened like four times now. Spooky probability gremlins at work.
I thought this was going to be a hard video to watch, but I was pleasantly surprised with how I was able to handle it. I struggle with my weight due to medical reasons, with the medicines I take for my mental and physical health making me gain weight. It’s hard, especially since I used to be hyper fit and played sports most of my life. I tried dieting, but that just revealed a latent ED I had. What I’ve found helps the most is continuing to eat as I always have, but just being mindful. If I want something more unhealthy, I just choose the better of my options. I also try to avoid over indulgence, but that can be hard with my ED, and also the fact that if I don’t eat enough, my blood sugar drops and I feel like I’m going to pass out. It doesn’t help that in America, i would be considered plus size when in Europe, im still a medium. In fact, I’ve lost weight in Europe simply by continuing to eat as I always have. There’s truly so many layers to this issue- wether it be with the beauty industry, lack of healthy options in America, or body positivity movements- but the only thing that matters at the end of the day is that youre healthy, and doing whats best for you
I was just looking at your channel to see if you'd posted earlier today. I finally have another long video to listen to while drawing. Love your videos ponder!
I'm pretty early on in the video- But I just wanted to add my experience as an over weight individual, (Who's been so sense I was around 10 or 11) I have Hypothyroidism! Now for me, that comes with multiple general symptom esc things- But in regards to weight, it makes it much harder to lose weight. Hell, it makes it very difficult to maintain CURRENT, weight, let alone lose. I fluctuate heavily, going from a spout where I gain some more- Stretch marks become vivid, and purple- To losing in a short time frame, WAY too quickly of a drop. It's rough, I not only struggled with being "the fat kid" my whole life- Never really getting proper treatment, to being an adult now with even more issues with it.
I've been getting my severe anxiety under control, (I'm now on medication that took me from having breakdowns in the parking lot, to being able to go nearly anywhere!) And so walking, because I'd be alone- Was and still is hard for me to do. Not the act OF doing so, but walking my neighborhood alone, my city alone. I don't even GO places alone, so walking without even any kind of weapon on me terrifies me, that's why exercise has been so hard to actually implement on a regular basis? (It's slowly getting better!) I'm in therapy for some CSA stuff, and my anxiety- Which I've made strides in! (Ponder you may or may not remember me, I was 16/17 when I first asked your opinion on my situation, and you were the first to tell me in my life that it wasn't MY fault. I'm doing so much better now, him cut off and not much of a problem for me anymore + Making SO much progress in my trauma work in therapy, so thank you ♡) But I've been taking baby steps to achieve those goals, and it's always gonna be a work in progress! I hate seeing so many things online, shitting on anyone who has visible weight problems- As if food is their only issue. It is usually more than just "eat less fatty" and people who don't live it, in some way or another- Tend to not understand how complicated it is.
Me personally another big factor to my weight, is that healthy food is just SO damn expensive. To make all your meals fresh, or make sure almost if not all are nice quality, fresh and healthy ingredients? You may as well sell your kidney, and that'll cover you for a couple months. Shit is so much worse nowadays in regards to price, I'm not surprised at all that so many people struggle with losing weight. huge part of people as a whole don't have the proper access to a "guarantee to be healthier" diet as a base line.
Thank you for that serious and honest discussion about genocide happening at the end.
9:48 thank you so much. My issues is how much people go very extreme.
I don’t understand how people can basically be like “ ur bad because your not eating foods that are bad for you!!” I know it goes deeper than that but how stupid.
While I understand the complaint of glorifying habits that are detrimental to one's health, I often see people insisting that plus-size people are "promoting obesity" by...existing. Like they literally do not discuss their weight whatsoever and yet they are somehow promoting unhealthy habits by just having the body they have? Are you not allowed to exist in influential spaces if you look a certain way? It's a really stupid complaint that I see a lot, almost exclusively to plus-size women, and it bothers me profusely. There's always a line crossed with critiques such as this, and it's detrimental to one's own argument when you're criticizing not the promotion of unhealthy lifestyles, but the existence of bigger people.
Additionally, thank you so much for speaking up and using your voice for those who need it. There are so many people I genuinely cannot consume the content of because despite my admiration for their intelligence, I can't fathom how you can just stay quiet. I'm not saying "you're a horrible person for not speaking up or for consuming the content of those who don't!" but personally, I just can't anymore. I don't get how people can just not care. I don't get how people can still be uneducated while they have a WiFi connection. I don't understand it, and I don't care to anymore. Thank you Ponder.
Given that the last I saw of Tess Holiday was her eating a WHOLE ASS HUGE CAKE by herself, seeing her have a healthy yet still filling breakfast is a nice change. People should not be shamed for trying to improve themselves. The same thing happened to Adele and Lizzo when they lost weight.
I do think that the concept that "eating whatever you want means you deserve the consequences" relies on the concept that people inherently feel negatively about larger bodies. Like it makes perfect sense to me to let people eat what they want because it's none of my business and people don't HAVE to look a certain way for me to treat them with respect, nor do they to meet my personal standards of what I find attractive, cuz attractiveness is a case-by-case basis and I'm asexual so nobody is attractive to me lol.
I'm Hetace and I'll never find fat people attractive and nobody can make me find a fat/chubby man attractive no matter how pretty their face is.
First off. OHMUHGODITSMUHBABY! Okay. Fan Girling done.
2nd thing. I'm a bigger gal myself. I'm 210 pounds at 5'1, and I struggle with one of the aforementioned health issues. I have PCOS. My problem with fat acceptance is that it pretty quickly stopped being about treating people with basic human respect and not tormenting them over their weight and began to turn into people not being able to accept that being fat isn't healthy and that it isn't always just a result of other health issues if any at all. I personally struggle with PCOS, but part of my issues are eating habits and I acknowledge that. Does that mean I'm going to change to appease people? No. If I do decide to change, it's going to be for me and no one else. But I'm not going to sit there and pretend I didn't do it to myself and also that the way I live is healthy. I guess what I'm trying to say here is that it stopped being about fat acceptance and became about denial of responsibility and delusions of healthiness that is more often than not just untrue. Then there was also the really weird and obnoxious wave of skinny hate where skinny people just existing was oppressive to those who weren't skinny. I remember way back there was a gal who wrote a very aggressive blog about how she was at this party and how absolutely seething she was about a skinny girl chose to have a small slice of cake vs. a giant one. The common ones I was sewing was people primarily being nasty towards women eating salads while the OP is eating fast food. And who knows? Maybe some of it was trolling, but as a 16 year old just being introduced to the internet not even a year ago by that point, I took stuff like that seriously and it rubbed me the wrong way. I think if they the fat acceptance movement stuck to exactly that, acceptance, it stopped making excuses for people, and it stopped creating a volatile environment for those who just simply wanted to exist in peace in all sizes, I would have been more open to it.
speaking as a disabled person , i can entirely get why someone wouldn't want their doctor bringing up their weight as a reason for their issues . i'm barely above average weight-wise & i've had doctors tell me my GENETIC CHRONIC ILLNESS is a result of me needing to lose weight , when in reality , it's a big reason i have trouble gaining weight , because it impacts my ability to develop muscle mass . i've only been recently diagnosed but i can imagine ppl who may have been dealing with similar stuff their whole lives would leave a sour taste in their mouths in regards to any suggestion of weight loss
My opinion has always been it's none of my business what people put in their faces. I'm a firm believer in 'your body your choice' in every sense of the phrase.
I love when Ponder posts a video🥰
every time i pass by the thumbnail i swear more food has been added
I'm late to the party but--
I feel like a lot of people don't understand just how life-changing actually making progress in your weight can be when you're someone who struggles with it. "You can't change your stance so easily" uhhh, yes you can? It can be devastating having to accept that you don't fit into to beauty standards, especially when you know you can do something to stop it. I used to similarly be very into the fat acceptance movement, because no matter what I did, I couldn't lose any weight. But right when I stopped caring, I dropped 20 pounds in the span of a few months. It's a crazy fucking change-- People expect someone to just go through a complete switch in their body composition and remain the same, but its really not how it works.
The way you explain stuff makes my brain go brrrr
I too struggled with near constant weightgain despite rarely eating anything considered unhealthy and despite ditching stuff like soda outright. It wasnt until a year and a half ago when I visited a nutritionist that we figured out what the problem was. I was not eating too much! I was eating TOO LITTLE and only ONCE A DAY! That, caused my body to constantly think its famine-time, forceing it to store absolutely everything i gave it. Since that I was able to space out my meals well, am allowed to treat myself once in a while, and am slowly but surely looseing weight without having to hunger or eat foods that I cant stand.
I just bring that up, to proove that the reason for weightgain can be absolutely insane and out of left field! (Also to say that a good nutritionist can be just as valueable as a good therapist and they are often an option many are unaware of )
Its always a good day when Ponder posts!! o7
🍉 keep the family safe
for situations like airplanes I think it important to respect people personal spaces, if you take more then one seat then you should buy two to be respectful and not put others into an uncomfortable situation. also that its important to stay healthy for you and those around you. don't think people would want to experience the bad side effects.
I never experienced being fat or such. although I do need to do my best to eat more consistency and exercise so i can stay healthy. feel like everyone should try their best and be healthy as they want while also understanding the issues of their body and conditions.
Thank you for speaking about this 59:21
I'm someone who's had body issues most of his life. I'm naturally stocky and around five foot nine, so I always feel like I look larger than my friends and am very self conscious about my appearance, especially my belly. I've been going to the gym since I was in my early twenties (I turn 40 next month) but it's only really been in the last five or so years that I finally felt I had a workout routine that worked for me, only to then lost about 18 months due to the pandemic. I remember in July 2021 when my chiropractor (I have a shoulder injury) commented on how much weight I'd put on during lockdown (for the record, I live in the UK), especially as I find it hard to train at home.
I've always had toned arms and legs due to me doing martial arts since I was a young child, on top of other hobbies like going to the gym and rock climbing for about five years. Ironically my body type actually made climbing harder for me, and there were times where I weighed more than my belay partner, to the point they'd have to wear a sand bag or two to counter my weight.
I'll admit I may have a somewhat toxic mindset when it comes to weight. I try not to be the stereotypical "I do this at the gym X times a week and I eat this, that and the other" gym bro but I also know I have let that slip through at times. I do believe everyone should strive for a healthy body, but I know it's not practical for everyone. And yet, I also feel concerned when people show signs of poor health. I remember seeing a friend for the first time since the pandemic in 2022 and not only had he put on a lot of weight, I noticed he was wheezing/breathing quite heavily, so naturally I felt concerned about his health.
Me personally, I doubt I'd ever be able to diet properly even if I wanted to due to my taste and texture issues which has given me a diet of mostly the same foods every day for most of my life. I've thankfully been supplementing things I normally don't get in my diet with vitamins, but I know for a fact I probably won't be losing much weight due to it, which I'm okay with. I don't mind being a bit on the chubbier side and my overall health isn't too bad. Another example is my mom has problems that require her to not eat foods that have added sugar in them. While sometimes she does break this diet for one reason or another, she does her best to get back to and keep up with it so that way she isn't in as much pain due to her medical issues.
let's go!!! ponder ponder ponder!!!
Thank you ponder for speaking up
Speaking as an overweight i definitely agree the "fat acceptance" movement needs to address this food habits and talk about the dangers of the being overweight however the "antifat acceptance" crowd can definitely come into the conversation extremely hostile and misinformed.