Car Culture Has Changed: 2012 vs 2022 (Part 2)
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Car Culture arguably saved me from a lifetime of no direction. It gave me a sense of community, purpose, and goals in life. However in the past ten years the car culture of 2012 is long gone and 2022 is almost unrecognizable... for better or for worse. Let's take a look back and see what's changed over the past decade in car culture. This is part 2 concluding this series for now!
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0:00 Intro
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1:54 rEsPeCT ALL BUiLdS BRO
3:48 240SX's and Hondas were almost worthless
5:10 Gatekeeping car culture is stupid
9:09 Car friendships and community isn't good
9:59 Takeovers and Sideshows
14:29 Final Thoughts 
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@ThatdudeinBlue. You used to live in Virginia, Where are the good places to go for meets, just to hang out, meet new people, and not deal with the stupid stuff? I live in virginia, and i would like to go to cool meets like this. Thanks in advance.
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Raid: Shadow Legends would be more ethical
No I am not going to take a loan
I felt like you didn't have to justify yourself. Our society is getting more dumbed down due to social media. Everything you said was truth and how you felt. I respect that! We need people like you speaking the truth!
Agreed! Understood tdib on his first video just fine
I don't know if it's weird or actually kinda terrifying how it's refreshing at this point to hear someone speak real truth about something you care about on the internet these days, but it is
Right, I can't stand this new generation of the car scene they are the main reason why I can't go out & enjoy a car meet. They get butt hurt by the truth but are the main ones who bash, bully or talk down on people in the scene but can't take it when it's dished out to them loool. As I said in my post on the first video it's males, it's not us females for once in the scene.
@@TrVlogs82 Nobody cares.
@@astrosics7497 Lol @ this woman who thinks she can drive
Crazy people got upset over your video. It was well spoken and made a lot of solid points. Always enjoy your uploads dudeinblue. God bless 🙏
It's mainly the takeover Clowns crying lol
I agree, David made great points. The takeover meets are going to ruin it for everyone else if they don’t stop.
Nothing but facts in these replies 💯
Dont apologize or explain to these takeover losers. People that attend takeovers are rejects that want attention
The takeover kids are just crying because they aren't real enthusiasts just clowns masquerading for attention.
The fact that you had to elaborate on takeovers is beyond me lol anyone that partakes in takeovers is honestly what’s wrong with the car community today.
They get SO mad when you tell them that. But at the same time they do not understand how that takeover shit negatively affects us no matter how much we tell them, or they just don’t care. Im 18, so my first experiences in the car world were meets in the 2015-2018 range. Meets and Car shit, It was no where near the crap level it is today. Builds were still cool/fun and not made for loudness and attention seeking. People don’t know how to lay low, don’t know how to help eachother, start beefing over stupid things, hold trouble-making meets, and most of all.
THEY POST EVERYTHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA and do all-around dumb things just for a half-hour of internet fame, and love one-upping each other trying to seem as unique as possible I’m still trying to figure out what’s entertaining about FBO 350Zs/G35s and clapped RWD mustangs and BMWs doing donuts for hours in public, open areas instead of finding empty spots to make noise in. Thank god for Track Culture not changing much
@@WeaveSpecialist I don’t see what’s wrong with them doing that.
@@REXae86 They want attention for driving their shit boxes.. For attention and fame, rather than just to impress their friends on a local road or somewhere, I dunno, not dangerous to other people and their hearing?
@@REXae86 well multiple issues.
1: the risk involved. Alot of people stand way to close to it and get hit or the car loses control and hits the crowd.
2: problems with law enforcement. Alot of the time its illegal and they chose to shut down a road or intersection to do it. So now the law has to get involved.
3: its all for clout.
I know street racing is illegal also, but they did that out in the country away from the public eye.
@@Soundsofthewoodno one in Los Angeles or Oakland is gonna drive miles out of the city to do takeovers. It’s fucking stupid and out of their neighborhoods. Most y’all don’t even live in these areas yet like to talk shit about it. Maybe if the city open back places to do sideshows and allowed low riders to cruise then there wouldn’t be issues. But no!
“ if you can’t afford to do something legally, than you certainly can’t afford to do something carelessly illegal”. That’s a quote my dad always told me. The problem with these takeover are you’re taunting fate. If you can’t afford a track day or even a autocross ( which literally is like $40) than you can’t afford the hundreds of dollars worth of legal fees. And if you genuinely got no where to go. Do it away from the public where you aren’t terrorizing the general public and you’re minimizing the risk and affecting no one else.
Back in 2010 some friends and I had an abandon indistrial lot we would go drift in. Literally like six of us. Cops came one day and just told us to go away because we were out in the middle of nowhere being safe and not bothering anyone but we needed to stop because we were tearing up the lot. This is before a lot of grassroots drift events in rural nc.
100 miles to the closest dragstrip. There's 3 autocross days this year in my area at 200$ each. Not much choice but rural backroads at 3am
The people getting mad were the exact ones you were addressing in your video. The very same ones ruining car meets for the rest of us. You just indirectly called them out and triggered them hard hahaha
These people don’t get it, like you’re offended because you know you’re wrong but just doubling down.
This is why Gatekeeping is good. Fuck their feelings cause they sure as hell don't care about yours or the communites. We used to call those people posers but Twitter liberals have tried to make it seem like a bad thing. Like no, there's a reason everything has a filter even your damn cells. To make sure the harmful crap doesn't get in.
This was my thought exactly. If the first video rubbed you wrong, you might be part of the problem .
There's always a part of me that wishes I could have been born just a little bit earlier and gotten to experience the car scene in the early 2010s. I didn't even have my license yet in 2012.
Same.
Honestly, better late than never man.
Start now, it’s only getting more expensive the longer you wait.
Why the early 2010s?
@@Kev27RS that’s what David talks about in the video lol
You explaining what you meant in your first video says a lot about the the “2022 car enthusiast” lol
Great job David
Right! They were probably 6 years old in 2012 telling us what we mean about what we experienced 😂
Thats exactly what I was thinking. 2012 guys would've just appreciated the time and effort he put into making the video. 2022 its why his video offended them lol
The drift tax killed the jdm cars, here in N.C. we still have small meet ups and cruise in's. Most test n tune is $10 or $20 bucks for unlimited runs at the track. I think everyone has moved to the track as we have gotten older, but we still keep it street.
I'm from NC too, everything seems to have a yac. People have fox body shells with no title and still want 3k for em. Also check out piedmont drift, $20 for entry and $10 for ride along pass. There's older and younger guys and girls who hit the track. Seen everything from a skyline to an ex oval stock car. They have a fb page too.
Exactly what I was thinking, seems like the real enthusiasts have just learned the track is where they want to be.
I went into part 1 expecting you to say some generic “back in my day” but ended up agreeing with pretty much most of what you said. The only ones getting mad are the ones who got called out
Who got called out?
@@jakesoros2376 the takeover people
@@jakesoros2376 the takeover culture basically
Thanks for the answers. 👍
@@jakesoros2376 the takeover clowns
I think many of us weren't expecting a part 2. As far as I am concerned, this is just a confirmation of who you are, and that is someone of good and ethical character. All of the topics you covered and re-affirmed in both videos was right.
My friends and I were already into the street scene with vehicles back before The Fast and the Furious came out. Speaking of which, when those movies were first dropping in theatres, yeah...we would drive from our small towns in southern Ontario to street race and drag race in the industrial parks in places like Mississauga and Brampton, in the areas of Toronto around the airport. Was it right? No. We did what we set out to do, away from the general public, knowing what the risks were, and then left to drive home in the wee hours of the morning. Since then, most of us have families, proper jobs, and merely mod and drive what we can (sometimes the family vehicles included), share knowledge and experience, and help newer generation drivers develop the same appreciation for different types of vehicles like you and your friends did in Virginia and Georgia.
I think you have taken the correct approach with your channel, and am looking forward to what's next...
All of this.
I bought a 1993 manual accord with 95k miles in 2008 for $600. Cheap project cars really are getting more and more rare. That same car in todays market has 200k+ miles and are still $5k
No car built after the mid 2000s will EVER go the distance like that Honda. It's all over-engineered, low quality trash. Hold on to it.
These two videos were beyond on point. I can remember even back as far as 2002 when I was only 19 driving a 1994 Eagle Talon DL (SOHC). I met some pretty cool "low key" people who were into cars. We all knew my car was slow, but I had a lot of people egging me on to go to a track (drag, or Auto-X). Time and time again we proved how slow my car was. But it wasn't about how "slow" it was, but rather how much fun we all had at the track. Garage days were always a fun time, wrench a bit, hit up a track, and just have an all around good time. I can't really comment on the street scene back then other than to say, as you have already mentioned, it was way different, and way more chill. As the saying goes, its more fun to drive a slow car fast than it is to drive a fast car slow. And to add to that, if you're going to build a fast car, take it to the track where they have trained professionals ready to step in if things get out of hand, and are ready to save someone. Not to mention, TDIB already touched base on the "cost" argument. I 💯% agree with that.
Some of the funnest times is racing 2 15sec car on a backroad that's dead even. We all started somewhere.
Bro! I loved the eagle talon. had an s13 and s14 zenki, because they were cheap, light and had a ton of aftermarket support. around the same time you had your talon. car culture was so different man, it was all about taking your shit box and trying to do the most to get power and it was fun as hell. word of mouth spread like wildfire. Only tutorials you had were forums with step by step photos to service your car, because there was no youtube at that time. websites like hot import nights and cardomain were central to finding out what people were doing to their cars and good places for ideas. Car culture today just defeats the purpose, if you told me you're selling an R34 for 700k i'd laugh and walk away. a 240 today goes for 10k or more which is egregious to say the least. If there is a car today that a teen can get into which epitomizes car culture it would be a late 90's eclipse.
i bought my first rx7 fc for 1200 back in early 2012 running and my first ae86 for 1k running in 2011, crazy looking at the prices nowadays
I paid $500 for my Ae86 then and $500 for my 240…
Now I want both of those cars back 🤦♂️ wish I never had to sell em.
Insane how the prices have skyrocketed and made a lot of these cars out of reach…
Literally dying inside cause I want another fc
Damn, wish I could get an FD for that much instead of like 30k
FC gang!
Cheapest miata in my country is about 5k usd with 200,000 miles
You need to do a video comparing the late 90s/ 2000s to what it is now. Because some of us miss those body kits and big wings.
In Charleston a Mopar group took over the Ravenel Bridge. They did donuts and drag races across it. Blocked at lease one ambulance from getting to the hospital. And Mopar owners in the entire area were sweating being associated with the event.
Police took the plate numbers from the Social Media posts and were retroactively arresting people weeks later.
I can tell I no longer have cable or social medias that display current news because I live next to the bridge and never heard a word about this lol. Crazy.
@@user-oj7co5wm8g It was June or July.
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I remember when I fixed my truck (it's fenderless by the way) all I did was park in an empty to check my oil,spark plugs and general fluid maintenance. Within an hour, I was surrounded by abunch of cool cars that I never thought I'd see in person, civics and everything. It was so fun to see these beautiful engine bays and fresh rims. Alot of them were so supportive and helpful. Although I had to spend the whole time under my hood that night, it was fun riding with these younger kids. Now I have to keep a 47 by my side because these kids feel entitled to jump on cars and smash them because you're mad that they hit you.
Yea I agree. Once you’re busted for takeover stuff while doing dumb things in a intersection you’re gonna be way worse off in the short term and long term than if you just saved for the track days. The government will take your cars, money, and drivers license lol
Imagine what not having the money to go to the track means for the maintenance of the car. Probably shouldn’t be doing donuts if you can’t afford a drift day god forbid you have a blow out on some cheap tires and end up killing someone.
@@michieff my mindset or theirs? The mindset of do stupid things, win stupid prizes? lol
@@CaptainTexas92 The people who participate in takeovers don't give a fuck about maintenance lol. They probably couldn't tell you if their tire was worn or cheap or at the proper pressure.
I doubt government does anything. They let child rapists, murders and thieves on parole or post bail to reoffend these days
My cousin was a street racer back in the early 90’s to 2008. I showed him both videos you made and he said and I quote “car scene isn’t the same and will never be the same. Everyone wanted to be like Jesse from Fast & The Furious. Highly knowledgeable about cars in every aspect and can tell you every part and aftermarket in the car. NOW people don’t know what they have under the hood. Betting on pink slips were the thing.”
Betting on pink slips is the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard of, if you’re broke just say that.
The forum toxicity part is pretty accurate. I remember reading a post where someone was looking to vtech swap an s13 on Honda forums and was looking for tips and he got shit on so badly. People were basically trolling him. Now a days it's cool to do it as long as you're a RUclipsr.
I always took respect all builds as “even though I don’t like slammed or big wheel builds, I can respect the time, effort, money, and creativity one put into their car. And if all else fails you can respect the passion. Anywho, I think the big issue is social media, I’ve seen gym, anime, and gaming also take a dive. Toxicity is becoming more rampant and people are making it their main personality trait.
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Toxicity? Nah its not being brave enough to gatekeep in fear of being labeled Toxic. Yeah bro enjoy all your hobbies going down the drain but at least you aren't called toxic. Nah shame these people out call them for what they really are. Posers.
I really like my local Cars and Coffee. Its well run and the couple officers that show up keep the idiots at bay. My favorite part is that it's not all old muscle cars like most of the shows around me, it's every group you can imagine.
I someone who was never around to see the car scene in the early 2010’s I’m glad you made a two parter, also where car magazine more popular back then or where they dying out
Car mags were like that sacred porn stash
@@Saielb still are, especially classifieds.
They hit their height closer to 2002-2009 (in the states) and fell off as the internet and social media became common place.
Super Street, Import Tuner, DSport, Turbo, and a few others were the shit back then. Super Street & Import Tuner were the most popular ones. Was the best place to see top notch builds, cutting edge parts, and read interesting articles about tuning, tuning companies, big track events, car reveals, etc. Before the internet really popped off, this was the place to see wild stuff. My favorites would be the Tokyo Auto Salon issues, Super street would have the best covers and it would be cover to cover about the craziest and latest builds from japan. They would have articles about the culture and little things like the popular music, food, sights, and more. It really led to a great reading experience that really immersed you in the scene. I feel like that kind of atmosphere is really lacking from the scene nowadays.
I think the fact people got that upset over your valid arguments and opinions really sheds more light on how much attitudes in the car culture have changed. In the earlier days we had a "If you don't like it, you can always respectfully move on." attitude, versus now people have a "How dare he talk about that that way, he's wrong and we need to outrage and cancel him". Everything needs to be a big scene to get internet following these days. I hate it.
Social media definitely ruined it. It made people desensitized by normal builds and cars. “Oh your car can’t beat mine? It’s slow”, “that Supra only has 1000HP? I saw one with 4000HP on RUclips”, “your car is more than 10 years old it’s clapped”… along with every gen z kid wanting to say a edgy against the grain comment, it’s just weird now. Every culture has its good moments but they are far and few now
I remember the first car meet I went to in high school, around 2012/2013, was because I sold a Honda prelude on Craigslist and the buyer had a modified evo X that informed me about local car meets on Thursday night and had maybe 20 cars but they were all really diverse and everyone talked. Now, it’s just a Facebook group that anyone can join, but so many people that everyone just sticks to their groups, or do dumb things like race in a parking lot. Hard to want to come out
Can’t even lie , David the street racing king pin is the biggest flex in this community by far
For real! 😆👌
Takeovers & sideshows are a cancer to the car scene!
Change my mind!
Agreed.
Absolutely
Just don't go to them lol. I'd rather stay in bed than to attend one of them abominations
@ramonbriones4487 the issues is they cause so much unnecessary attention on the news the police have to shut down all car meets
Where I'm from it's not a part of the "car scene" it's just Bay area culture I'll bet money you've never even been to a sideshow 😂
Yup, I can say it change since I started in 1990...was very different....guess it does change every 8 to 10 years....
For those thinking $99 for driving and $100 for used marketplace tires is to much change goals if you have less then $450 in your bank account car meets should not be your main focus
Was not expecting a part 2!!!
I agree with the friend part. I've helped my "friends" with there build or gave them parts for there cars because I've known them for a while. Yet whenever I needed help with my car or I had problems they never asked to lend a hand. I was in the middle of dropping my engine and I had my "friend" come by to borrow tools...not even to help. It was after that moment I stopped offering my help or tools to people. Its sad to say it but, the lack of people who are willing to help you after you helped them is wild to me. Hopefully with the new year I'm able to meet new people and try not to make the same mistakes lol.
Here in Australia we have barely any tracks for drifting / hooning as they mostly have gotten shut down. We usually keep it to industrial areas and quiet backroads but even so, if the police catch you you get your car crushed.
Yeah its really fucked with how many tracks have been shut down due to dumb asses going yeah its a good idea to live RIGHT NEXT TO A RACE TRACK
@@GTSW1FT 😂😂 personally I’d love to live right next to a track, sound of my people
I miss hitting up the QLD raceway with the boys on the rare drift days back in the late 2000s! But yeah the industrial area around Nerang is where we mostly chucked our Silvia’s and Cefiros and R33s around haha
@@Girvo747 that’s sick to hear og! I’ve only just got into drifting as a broke 20 yr old, just kinda sucks with the crazy car prices and no where to slide without getting side swiped by a $500 falcon at Archerfield. I’m thinking about moving to America even tho I much prefer Australia, just so I can drift my car without losing my license for 4 years.
australia sounds like a liberal hell hole im going to be honest.
The 240sx statement is so true , I remember one of my friends had 3 of those things fully running just sitting in his back yard , that’s just how cheap they were back in the day .
Love what Toyota is doing with the GR series. Would love to see Honda do a rear-wheel drive vehicle back to their essence.
I think they will maybe with the S2000 type badge but unfortunately i think its past non-hybrid or E versions. Sad but true.
Yeah a light weight little roadster would be sick from Honda. But yeah I don’t know that most car companies are looking to invest fully in a new gas only vehicle right now. If something did come, I think that indeed we’re looking at electric or hybrid
I'm now actually 44yo and still love my modifying hobby, and have been into it, even before I could actually drive a car. Here in Australia, I have also found the scene to have deteriorated over the last 10 years or so, and you made some very valid points. I just wanted to say to your subscribers to do your own thing, enjoy the hobby and just stay safe.
I remember back in the day when a bunch of us socal evo dudes have meets 20 evos deep in LA, cops would chill with us and pull over the honda folks that have meets across the street lol. fun times.
I got into the car scene in the 2000s, I got my license a week after the first F&F movie came out. I've seen the car scene chance allot. Back then we used to have a big car meet at a local restaurant every Friday, it started at 5pm with the old people with the classics and as the night would go on it would switch to younger crowds and would break down to street racing. We had a couple cops that were cool with us, they would let us do what we did as long as we were being "safe". It all ended when a couple Side Show fulls started doing donuts and slammed into one of the cop cars. After that we were shut down at 9pm on a friday.
Same I got mine in 04 and at school we would go to a street race where I got hooked
As a long time Honda guy I can say that we’re getting a lot less hate now than we were 10 years ago.
RUclips had a lot to do with that IMO
I feel for you Honda guys. Always getting shit on lol. I respect the builds though!
As long as it’s not hellaflush…. I’ll still make fun of it, but I will definitely look it over and give respect where it’s due when a car is built properly.
I always thought that always had more to do with some of the people that the Honda crew had around them more than anything. Theyre cheap, reliable cars that you can make quick with a relatively low investment and still maintain some reliability if you know what youre doing. Kinda seems bound to get the idiots that just wanna be dumb with how accessible building Honda motors traditionally is
@@artybrandt yeah a lot of the Honda people are still goobers, I do think the quality of builds and number of fast Hondas has increased though
@@sethallison5682 yeah i agree. They dont really need a whole lot to be quick either, especially if some effort is put into reducing weight with how light the cars already are
Street racing kingpin. Goals I wasn’t aware needed be set. Enlightening 😂
I loved part 1! Can’t wait for part 2. You made excellent points.
Huge amounts of respect 🙏 been watching your vids for years now... I've been in the car community since about 2005. Learned alot about it then at an automotive institute. Learned about car culture, different cliques, different styles and interests, but most importantly human nature in crowds. I was into the sound system thing as much as the tuner thing. Built a chev 350, roller rockers, cam, blower, etc. Tuned a supra, dynoed a 36hp geo. It was a blast man. Wound up working on garbage trucks for 15 years 🤣 I've built some cool cars, but nothing that lasted long enough. Truth of a mechanics budget. Lol
Makes me sad ): I just really got into the scene since I recently bought my Skyline , I’m beyond bummed that I missed the golden era of car culture in the 90’s/early 2000’s but even the 2012 scene was better
The late 90s - early 2000s car scene was so special!
@@Kev27RS yes! This! 99-2006 was insane
There are still pockets of good, respectful car culture like he talks about in the video. Just maintain your car well, and search out for people who feel the same way and don't do dumb shit, you'll find them for sure
All we got back then in the northwest, is Hondas with exhausts and big wings. Noone customized anything else. Now you see more Subarus and the occasional r22 gtr imported. Most of it though, are Subarus and monster trucks driven by construction workers who think they're living large.
Very cool. Happened to see part 1 yesterday. Thanks
well spoken, david. you’re the best! 💯
100% agree with you. I’ve been in the car scene since the early 2000’s and now I help run one of the longest running weekly car shows in the world. We still have a good standing relationship with local law enforcement, heck they walk the show and ask about the cars. Sure we get the bad apples, but like you said, we keep it “2012” there. If they mess up and do stupid things, they will get kicked out and asked not to come back. If you ever get to Arizona, we hold it every Saturday. You are more than welcome!
Again I could not have said this any better myself I feel the same exact way!!! You explained it very well. Even tho the first video explained it all perfect!! Most likely people complaining were not even old enough in 2012 for a car or any real car scene experiences
Love the take dude!
Facts, Dave. I think you should do a part 3 of the car culture, starting with showcasing the cringy stuff that TikTok "car enthusiasts" are doing.
The first video I enjoyed a lot, though I wanted to leave some of my thoughts on it but I saw it a few days late and it would have gotten lost in the swath of comments.
I started poking around the car hobby scene in 2007. I had, of all things at the time, a 2003 Pontiac Grand Am GT sedan. I was 19 when I got it. I loved it, I modded it, then just realized how bad they were (it broke a lot) and hated it lol. It was still quite an experience modding a VERY unloved car in the scene. Mine stood out, but barely. I did learn a lot, from the seven years I owned it, from 2007 to 2013, forums were still a common thing, social media was just, not taking off yet. While every place had its own thing going, Ive noticed that the late '00s and early '10s in the car scene still had that close knit vibe you described where you lived. Long Island NY felt the same way, tbh.
A lot of the gatekeepy norms are probably what put me off a lot when I look back on those days. Honestly I am glad that a lot of that sort of mindset is starting to fade. It makes no sense to berate others because "theyre new" or "they dont know yet". So help them! Dont be a dick, its easy and you feel good helping others learn something new and seeing what they do with that knowledge is really cool.
As for how it is today, Ive been away from car community stuff since 2017 or so. I used to have a really nice CM7 Accord (I miss it) but I got so fed up of people being so damn egotistical, confrontational, gatekeepy and downright bad vibes. I love Hondas but I was tired of so much negativity with Honda communities I kept finding, both online and IRL. Like, I knew people didnt like my Accord (it was a lowered coupe with red rally armors lmao) and I never cared that others ragged on it. What I called out was dudes *always* shit talking others simply because they had massive clout and thought their clout/popularity absolved them from any wrong doing in whatever community they were in. Having $3K Works VSXX wheels on your 7th gen Accord with your $4K worth of parts from Japan to make it look like a Honda Inspire doesnt mean you can talk shit and be an asshat and nobody can stop you. Thats the mindset that ultimately drove me away and sadly Ive never been able to sort of find that chill vibe I remember over ten years ago. It sucks, I miss it but I still love cars. Just, Im always on the outside looking in these days.
Not gatekeeping is the reason why car culture is the way it is currently.
Also from Long Island and definitely can say things have changed, I started going out to meets before I even had a cool car (it was my first car a Jeep Wrangler 😂) and just being able to see what people had and the sense of community was really awesome to see, even me being someone on the outskirts. Fast forward to today and I definitely realized that it’s not even about cars anymore to an extent. Of course it’s revolved around cars, but if your ride isn’t trendy or doesn’t have some sort of internet clout no one will bat an eye. I now have an 85’ Monte SS I would take out to meets for old times sake and sure it’s an oddball to have out at a mostly import/newer domestic crowd nor do I expect droves of people to ask about it, but it doesn’t seem like anyone really appreciates diversity much these days. Just my two cents sorry for the whole story 😂 cool to see another Long Islander here!
@@chewy2241 yeah its fallen back to being about "image" and stuff. Im not one to go all boomer and blame social media but it did have a strong effect, sadly. Its forever left a bad taste in my mouth as a result. and yeah, fun seeing other long islanders around, too!
Another amazing video!
Appreciate this bro sounds way better love the content
What's the BEST thing about car culture in 2022?
How we now have such a massive aftermarket community!
That i matured enough that i dont need cloutculture .. and that there are raceclubs in my area .. i focus more on racing than parking hard .. carculture as it was in the golden days where it was about the cars is over .. there are 3 big meets i go to .. all the latenight meets are full of tiktok kids thtat want to see just flames and burnouts because they want them clicks ... Oem cars with rwd is enough these days to be in the carscene at least in my area .. and that sucks
The diversity tbh, there are a lot more unique cars and different build types and it’s cool to see what someone does
proving people wrong with lowering a xv crosstrek instead of the traditional lift kit (lololol). Also really glad you brought up just going to a calm track day to learn something. Shoutout LimeRock
Your videos
Overall I liked both you videos. I graduated high school in 2008 and this hit spot on. One thing I would add, you failed to mention the debacle for the car community that was Cash for Clunkers.
Great take. A someone who has been in the car scene since my first '06 DC5, I greatly appreciate this video. Part 1 specifically (pt. 2 is not needed imo) but good follow-up nonetheless. Glad to see you've reached over 1M subs! 🤘
love your channel and videos....as a car enthusiasts this channel is refreshing..keep it up
Per your points on the drifting - agree that people should go to tracks. For those saying "but I cant afford it" then...you dont get to go
Not everybody gets everything they want
And this ultimately stems from trophies for everyone. There are winners in life and losers in life. You cannot win everything. People need to learn how to take an L and make themselves better to get that dub.
You hit the nail on the head David…hopefully some will take it for what it’s worth, but naysayers are just that. Trying to justify their activity even…it’s all about having fun and trying to be as safe as possible in the process.
Part 1 and part 2 were good videos man. I completely agree with everything you said I think.
I completely agree, the car scene when I was a freshman in high school in 2015 was very different then what it became in the 20’s. My buddy with a new 5.0 was considered quick,and I remember swapping my buddy’s srt4 axles because they would* snap when launched but the base model axle neon would fit so we essentially became a pit crew. It was essentially invite only and was a great learning experience, and made me strive to work harder to have a nice car. Definitely people who were there for the enthusiasm rather than the clout.
👏Agreed. We need to bring car culture back. Fight club rules basically. Takeovers are just not the right way. Everyone needs to just watch Initial D a few times lol.
Man of culture lol initial d is awesome.
@GangBalls69_Estonia someone had to say it initial d fucked up a lot of shit
How anyone could defend taking over a street or freeway just to be dumbasses in leased Chargers, Challengers, and Mustangs is beyond me.
I got into car culture in the late 90s as a little kid. Going to the Goodguy show and drag strips with my dad was my start. It was the era of street rods and muscle cars were just getting collectible. Anything with 4 doors was undesirable as well as station wagons. Most cars were getting 350 chevy engine swaps as the ls hadn't hit the aftermarket in any real number and Japanese cars just weren't cared for. Rat rods were considered unfinished junk, square body trucks were good for lifting and use in a mud pit or as a firewood hauler and big cars were designated for demolition derbies. Noone was talking about tuning computers in any real sense and everything was bright red or yellow with chrome everything. A 57 chevy or 40 ford was the coolest thing you could own. And c3 and c4 corvettes, as well as anything made after 1971 was just considered junk. The car scene is way more broad now. Unfortunately, many of the cars I like now were lost to either derbies, mud bogs, Cash for clunkers, or attrition and the thought of owning anything from before 1973 is impossible without either getting a rotted out heap or robbing a bank. Cars with naturally aspirated v6 engines are making more power than many of the old big blocks without any tuning and 100,000miles is hardly considered high mileage. The only problem with this massive growth is that it has caused way more in fighting and many of the groups are at odds in every way beyond the cars. It's considered a political statement to own a corvette or classic car and it's the same if you own a euro or Japanese car. Cars don't have to be super old to be cool either. Now a car that's 10 years old is just as fair game as a 54 chevy was in the 90s. While the appeal has broadened it seems that the groups are more divided and EVERYTHING has to be some "stance" for something and appreciating one car can malign you from several groups you are also into. I miss when it was just a debate of cragars vs Americans racing wheels or chevy 350 vs ford flathead vs dodge 440. I don't miss how one dimensional it felt but I definitely wouldn't mind everyone cutting it out with being so tense over anything setting them off. It's funny, I remember when the dodge charger became suddenly cool again because the fast and the furious showed they could be something besides general Lee replicas. Now THAT was one hell of a turn.
I'm a old fart who's last year of going to any kinda street car meet was probably around like 2002/3. Back then it was all about being low key, not drawing attention and if you need to "prove" your vehicles speed and power you and the 'challenger' would drive off to a road and hash out a few runs to see who was faster.
Fuck i remember the warehouse and industrial areas. back when i had my s13. met so many many good/awesome people. thanks for speaking your mind and what you said its all true. my neighbor/friend thats moving to TX is 21. i felt like there is so much he didnt know about the whole entire car scene, how it started. crazy because like you said there is no one to teach them. glad i got to him, gives me some hope
Dude I remember when your channel started taking off in 2012-2013. The car scene back then was an absolute gem, and same with its community. Forza Horizon lobbies, Harlem shake challenges, and car RUclips was starting to pick up, alongside car photography on Tumblr. Now It's just filled with clout chasing videos, mean-ass stance peeps, and enthusiasts who swear they're the best just because they have expensive parts. I'm in my late 20s now, so maybe I'm becoming an old head. But these new enthusiasts nowadays don't understand what it means to be a car enthusiast. Like you said, it's a fashion trend, rather than a communal hobby. And nobody wants to teach/help each other. The 2010s was all about learning together. Maybe it's a millennial+ thing, but man I sure do miss it. I wanna pass on the support and advice I received from the OGs back in the 2000s-2010s. I believe it's our turn now, so making content and videos like this is important! Thanks for the throwback with both parts of the 2012 vs 2022. Also it's still f*ck takeovers. Be like the risky devils, go secluded and drift away from the crow and noise while having fun with friends!
**edit, sorry for the typos, was way too moved by seeing the blast from the past vids of 2012 haha**
SPOT FUCKING ON! Exactly my point. The car hobby/enthusiasm is treated as a fashion fad or trend nowadays and it just leads to more and more epic clout-chaser stories and fucked up consequences for everyone. I’m 18 now, so 2014-2018 was when I really started heading to car meets with my brothers. It’s genuinely starting to feel like myself, my brothers and my friends are that last “old head” or real car/engine enthusiast part left around here. Only some parts of Maryland have a good scene going still. It’s sad to see because I have to constantly explain the problem with takeovers, bad choices, and how that affects everyone to people my age.
Forums used to be GOATED, I mean you could find any piece of info you needed on those. It’s literally how I got so smart and knowledgeable when it came to VWs, Audis, BMWs, and Fords. Now people won’t even tell you some stupid wheel specs.
@@WeaveSpecialist Keep it up man! It's our turn to keep this mentality alive, so we gotta start teaching those who aren't on the right path what it means to be an enthusiast. 2014-2018 definitely was definitely a fun time to be an enthusiast. 2020s just seem like its over-saturated af 'cause it's in
Dude, you dont need to explain to make everybody happy. You got a really good point in the prev video.
Amazing video bro 👌🏿
If you got mad at him your the problem and you’re sensitive there’s no space for you in the car scene lol
It's nutty that you used both versions "your" and "you're", it's like you almost got it right. C'mon man, do better. You were almost there
@@Abombsucksalot bro who gives af
@@nickz33 Woosh. Have a sense of humor
@@Abombsucksalot who gives a fk!!!
@@Abombsucksalot humor????? Where?????
I literally lost my license because of this and I was just a spectator.
Sorry that happened but let it be a lesson in not encouraging stupid people to do stupid things.
Thanks Dave.
As someone who is from GA and lived out there in 2012, I love seeing this video (both parts) because it's nostalgic. I remember my first night meets back in 09 and 2010. By 2012 I was buying/building cars that I would later become known for in the area (1976 BMW 2002, EIP built vr6 corrado, 74 mercedes slammed on its nuts, mk1 scirocco, etc etc. But to get to the point, I understand entirely. I remember being excited for Friday and the weekend because I would cruise out to Marietta, Hiram, Gwinnett, Barrett Pkwy, and even my home town of Carrollton had a car scene back then. I met most of my current friends around that time and I couldn't imagine not having These memories. My first Southern Worthersee (SoWo) experience was also in 2012, along with my first SouthrnFresh experience. Now being in my 30's and living 800 miles from GA, I look back fondly at these memories, and I do really wish that the overall car scene could take notes from the past. I currently help Co-chair a group here in OKC called WETDUB. If you are ever out in the OKC area we do chill, laid back, planned meets monthly. Thank you for the content. I love the videos.
Keep it up with those chillaxin meets👍
To everyone who got pissed off in the previous video, here's with all of my love: 🖕
if u can pay 400 an up for tires u can pay 99 bucks to go to a track
love it...thank you!
FYI, it’s a felony to shine ANY aircraft with a laser
The money argument is the stupidest thing i ever heard from an takeover guy .. in my area a autocross gridplace costs 40$ and you just need a helmet and register 7 days in advance .. his answer: nah bro its to much hassle and to expensive and what if i wreck my car nobody is gonna pay .. the stupid of those people has no end
That's dumb because half these idiots wreck cars during takeovers I don't think anyone pays out of pocket besides themselves for that.
@@ironbloodedmyth1204 They are paying like $400 a month on a Challenger at some stupid high rate on a long ass 84 month loan. They just roll that negative equity into whatever car they purchase next -- these types of idiots are always perpetually in debt, you think they care about balancing their finances if they go to fucking takeovers?
You’re one of the most positive dudes on cartube! ❤
Loved both videos. Honest and straight forward, I love that. And if people don't want to hear the truth, that's their problem.
Love your videos and content, keep up the good work
Personally the number 1 reason why car culture has changed is because the prices for all "cool" cars have skyrocketed to insane levels in the past few years. $100K for a 90s Toyota that would lose to a modern minivan is honestly absurd.
I was gonna say what Toyota is 100k but I forgot mid supras exist.
As someone that’s about to get a Supra I agree. I’m trading my cappuccino for a built 2j swapped mk3 pupra.
@@Ski_3_p_o good luck man
We need to stop respecting all builds and everyone in the community, it’s a huge part of what makes the bad parts of the community the way they are.
Can we PLEASE have a part 3!?!?!?!?!? I loved watching this.
It makes me kind of sad that the cheap cars I owned (two S13s, multiple DSMs, a freaking 240Z, an EG Civic Si, etc.) are now so expensive that I can't afford one anymore.
I agree with you man. Car culture now, for the most part is trash. Most of the younger guys want to go to the local meets and just rev up, do burn outs or leave trash everywhere and get everyone run off. Ever since the early 2000s there was always a car meet somewhere on Fridays and Saturdays that anyone could go to and everyone was welcome that wanted to act right. Now no one wants to host a meet because the dumb kids always show up with their straight piped truck or straight piped single cam Civic and leave it on the limiter for what seems like whole minutes. Then they want to do burn outs, leave trash or get into fights. Shortly after these young guys show up usually the police are right behind them and send everyone home. When I was younger it was frowned upon to be a douche that messed up everything for others. It genuinely seems like the younger crowd aim to be that douche and mess everything up for everyone else.
Moreover, it's impossible to gatekeep because of the nature of the culture itself. Unless someone says something 'racist' or something like that, people just can't be bothered to care.
It's incredible how strange the bar is for people to care about a hobby is nowadays. Actually keeping it respectable, especially so the cops don't get called and ruin the night, nah. People saying mean things, nah. Someone saying something that makes them an '-ist' (depending on who they are), NOW THAT'S REAL.
I don't know, what do you think?
You should never have to make a V2 or a follow-up video to apologize for cold hard facts 😂 the funny thing is I was doing all those same things that you were doing in 2012 back in like 2004 LOL
I was born in 2004
@@Drippyxclutch1 oh man 🤦 I was born in 1984 so I was graduated from highschool before you were born 😂 doesn't matter these days there really is not much difference in the love of cars between 18-38 years old
@@chasingcloudsandflavorrevi9817 bro that’s facts we both basically see the same thing everyday lol social media wise and in real life
@@Drippyxclutch1 true 💯! One thing I can say is don't hold back and grind until you get what you want. Stay up 👊😎
@@chasingcloudsandflavorrevi9817 thanks bro will do💪🏿✅
Ahh those internet people... instead of asking if they understood it right or if this was really was ur intention, they instantly attack u with insults.
Your first video was spot on. Brap on brother.
Everything changes constantly... You better keep up to not end as a grumpy old person that does not like new things xD
Nah - just was a fun retrospective on the last ten years. I still absolutely love being apart of such a rad culture.
Implying he's in the wrong.
Could make it even more interesting taking this back another decade to 2002. Pre LS being king. Pre easy tuning for everything. Pre 2008 economic collapse. When a 500whp car truly DID make you a king on the streets it almost any city.
From the last video and to add from this video my view still stands from all the years of watching car enthusiasts i feel as though im the outsider looking in but id want to be a part of it just haven't managed my time to really connect with other like minded individuals, its also good to know that with something that is at least local to you its less so for be because of were i am located geographically [Indiana]
I refuse to respect all builds. Especially of your "build" is a cold air intake and exhaust.
A CAI and Exhaust is just the first step in a build, people aren't made out of money, it takes time.
Keep doing what you're doing, man. It's absolutely necessary. I'm still reconciling some of the personal/toxic comments from MY video, so I get it. Social Media and the internet as a whole, simply exposes an already existing problem in society. People like you are needed to encourage others to rise above the vitriol and succeed in your own happiness while surrounding yourself with positivity. Nolite bastardes carborundorum.
Before I graduated HS in 2010 I had already owned 6 or 7 s13 240s. I paid 1200 for the most expensive one which probably had less than 120k miles and was clean and bone stock. Imports used to be super cheap because nobody wanted them, back then an import that ran 10s were an extreme rarity. I was the only one in my HS with a modified car, let alone an import, good times.
I grew up in San Diego and started going to meets when I bought my Evo 9 in 2007. The meets back then were a good mix of hanging with people who had the same car as you, and groups of people who just loved cars in general. The people we ran with were either guys who had the came car as you, or were just people who loved cars in general. They were always nice and chill, and we usually made sure the businesses we met at were okay with us meeting there, and if was something like a food place we'd bring a ton of business. We weren't there to cause any kind of trouble, we just went to hang out. Those guys became family, brothers and sisters, and it was great. I was in the Navy, and luckily I was stationed close to home and was able to make friends with guys in the service who were enthusiasts too. I remember coming back from a deployment one time and went to a meet, and it just didn't feel the same. It wasn't the same people, they were younger guys who were finally able to afford the kind of cars we ran with and they changed the culture in a negative way. The last one I went to, we met at an In n Out and the honda guys showed up (not bashing hondas, it just happened to be that group that had them) and started doing burnouts in front of us. I stopped going after that, and didn't associate with any groups or anything after that. I remember feeling pretty bummed out because it was always so fun, going to BBQ's and doing mountain runs around Palomar Mountain. I hate what its become, and you pointed out exactly the things that made meets and car culture the way it is today. Funny thing is, the people today will look back with "rose colored glasses" and reminisce like we do about our day.
Around 2012 our local car scene was pretty simple. We met at the local Sheetz parking lot and just hung out talking about cars. The local police would park with us. I think it was because our cars seemed to make other people show off while passing so they'd go after the assholes that ruined it for us. The fastest car around was a 500 hp SRT4 PT Cruiser. Our cruises were never announced online prior to them happening.
I subscribed bro! I was in Stockbridge, GA, where I recorded them doing a takeover in late 2022, I just never posted them doing it. I was on my way from the bank walking back home when that happened... But this was the second they did, the first one I recorded them leaving and officers chasing them out on June 14, 2020. But yes, I'm so glad you mentioned that they're dedicated tracks for doing donuts and drifts on 😂
Much respect to you my new friend 😉
I love your videos mate
Your cop anecdote reminded me of my local cars and coffee. It’s right behind a police station and you’ll often see cops walking around talking to people
Thanks for covering this, your not wrong. The vibe is completely different having an aftermarket ride. People look at it like we are the bad guys, I don’t speed or pull donuts in closed areas, it’s just for the love of building something that is yours
I'm probably the oldest guy here but I was a senior in highschool in 2001 when fast and furious came out. That was a great era of tuner cars.
Im a couple of years older lol