Should A Woman Always Submit to a Man? Hot Seat w/Jonathon
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Should A Woman Always Submit to a Man? Hot Seat w/Jonathon
I won't submit to a man. He has to see me and treat me as his equal.
Lisa…my opinion is if he doesn’t communicate well enough , I’d have zero tolerance …I would not call him or text him again! If after you checked on him and he doesn’t reciprocate…to heck with him !!
That was excellent. Really makes you slow down and think how perception can be so different between men and women.
I have to run this by my sisters …I met a wonderful guy and we got along very well. He was so excited and proud that he introduced me to his entire family and kids fairly early on in relationship. They would never speak to me. He was widowed and I knew they had lost their mother so I gave it time. Two years post death and family functions (sporting events and graduations, etc)…still no speaking to me. He and I addressed this rudeness and he just couldn’t fix it. Was I wrong to leave him ? I told him I’m not ready to tolerate such rudeness and I gave it a years time!! He was ready to disown the kids and family and I truly didn’t want him to do that. I say kids…they are 30-41 years in age !!
I am following this.
"If you think I'm *too much*, then go find somebody less."
Boom. 👏👏👏
Alternately, I might say - perhaps I'm too much for you - and perhaps you're not enough for me.
Both are great responses.
I thought she was going to say she was a physician. 😂😂 Flight attendant!
Babe in total in control of herself! I'm grateful you mentioned this again As women, we should not be afraid to stand up for ourselves in a coherent manner without vomiting our emotions.
Excellent advice to both women Jonathon. 💛
men have peacock 🦚 feathers. lol 😂
She knows why he left, he doesn’t need to say it. A man will NEVER say, -Hey babe I’m leaving because you lost your job & that’s all I wanted “The cool trips and perks”
In my experience, no response from him Lisa, is actually a message loud and clear.
Rejection is protection. It's a saving grace.
Nobody should ever submit so completely to any one person, influence is a wonderful thing when used properly.
Agreed
Yes inner work absolutely before outer exploration
No wonder men think we are nuts these two women got in MY nerves, I don't want to be these people...two dates?? WTH
Sometimes in the beginnings of relationships, we have our rose-colored glasses and we get swept away with our feelings of romance with our heads on Cloud 9. And then the novelty wears off, reality sets in after a while and the glasses come off. Couples often put his/her best foot forward in the early romance stage of a relationship. It takes time to get to know people and to understand them to assess their compatibility. As the saying goes, “love takes time.”
She said the first meeting wasn’t going to be a date yet she sleeps with him on the second “meeting”. Who used who? C’mon!
Thanks for your videos
Glad you like them!
Uh…no. And for the dramatic part, if you can’t accept it for who you are, that’s his problem.
Yikes! There is no way i would bother someone with my demands if they had a sick relative in hospital.
She already expressed concern, sympathy and willingness to help in a text weeks after the event - that's enough.
Send a text in three months if you still like the person, otherwise, let it go.
For all you know, it could just be an excuse to discontinue seeing you anyway. Move on. Give them space. They don't owe you.
Yes
That first woman was hard to watch messing with her hair and phone..if you're going to be on camera, make yourself presentable and speak coherently.
I have seen submissive women and their husbands adored them, they lacked nothing...i also seen the alpha female, and her entire household depending on her for every single thing, she was overworked and tired...jmo there is no standard formula for all relationships, communication and compromise is the key.
She's emotional, drinking 🍸 ????
The idea of submission is based on the premise that someone has chosen to be a husband. Meaning they have chosen to serve the good of the other person even at his own expense. No one is perfect but basically means that the woman does not get in the way of the learning curve. Even good teachers submit to the process of learning of the students. Submission is not a relent of power it is a leverage of power to inspire growth of the committed covering who is learning to love well.
Women often give their power away. This is something I encourage people not to do...
@JonathonAslay I totally agree! But this is not at the "fault" of submission. Submission done correctly and accordingly to the definition above is a leverage of the womans power. In the hands of a good man you see stories like Esther, Deborah, Mary, And Ruth or more obscure stories like the Phonecian woman or the Shunamite woman. These women caused the men to increase their leadership for the good of many. In the hands of a man that does wrong or makes a mistake with the submission then stories like Tamar the wife of Judah, Sarah the wife of Abramham, Naomi, Elizabeth, Moses's Mother, Rahab, and Hannah. God Himself will honor the submission inspite of the man responsible. The miracles happen when fear and manipulation cease and submission is an eternal tool of deliverance. Done right it is the biggest power play of the woman.
The wording you are looking for for giving away their power is compliance with oppression.
It was only 4 months. You are just getting to know one another.
Yes
2 dates and this much invested with someone that gives you mediocre communication, at best? No one owes anyone anything. Yes, it is a shame that there are people that are not civil or well mannered but that is their problem. Don't waist your time and energy on people that don't show up! Why do we continue investing in people that aren't into us? Love yourself so well, you know the difference between those that are capable of meeting your energy, or not.
Great advice to Lisa 👍
Thanks ☺️
Wow! Jonathon, those two woman NEEDED TO HEAR THIS! I couldn’t agree more with your advice, the first woman, she deflected a lot, although she was nervous being on and it takes courage to do it, the second was very angry, she tried to act like she didn’t want to see him again, but you directed her to do what is right, not saying,I’m a good person etc…. Tough to hear possibly, but I hope she takes your advice.. I was nervous listening to her, anyway.. Good job👍
Keep your hands on the wheel Lisa! 😮
Always!
Pull over and stop the vehicle Lisa.
😂😂
I pray that she she get someone she deserves
Ditto
Submit? And the 21st century woman don't seem to belong in the same book, much less the same sentence.
Some believe women should
Lisa, it’s normal to want proper closure to relationships but obviously not everyone feels that way. And like you said, you’ve already tried reaching out to him and he’s not responding. Also people process grief differently so he may be emotionally unavailable and struggling to come to terms with the desth. No need to take things personally since he didn’t provide any closure. Maybe try to look on the bright side and be thankful you found out sooner than later that he’s not a good got for you and that you didn’t get sexually involved with him. Best wishes with your new boyfriend.
Sorry for the typo: …that he’s not a good fit
She should read the book what the heck is solve love anyway by doing that she'll be making no mistakes.
Agreed
If it was only that easy lol
I'm a woman. And I have problems to express my emotions to my partner. I inherited this from my dad..
Luckily I am able to do that with my kids.
🙏
Oh hell to the Nooooooo
Exactly
I'm watching this late, but I wanted to say something about this. It's possible that he put up with the dramatics bc of her status. Once she quit, then he wasn't willing to deal with dramatics
Maybe
Once she was no longer in her job he no longer had the potential for cheap trips. He was using her in my opinion.
She said she’s been unemployed for one day though. It WASN”T because she quit her job, in my opinion.
@@kathyverrelli5170 I agree Kathy, and the drama was probably an excuse… Why would he admit he was there for the trips and perks…
@@melissabrzescinski494 They receive a few weeks' notice
I know I’m not good being subservient because I was the sole caregiver in the household caring for a sick parent. I think it’s good to know that too. But, I do want security and a partnership with a strong, responsible man. I’m not sure what that would be called…
Thanks for sharing
You’re welcome 🙏 I believe it’s important to understand your boundaries.. because I know I would not do well with a super-alpha type…
Hi Lorraine,
I don't think subservient and submitting are the same thing. Submitting is more like trusting someone's lead because they have earned your trust, whereas being subservient is leaning towards catering blindly.
I hope you find and partner up with that strong and responsible man you desire and can feel secure with. The heck with what's it called 😜🥰
Have a blessed day🙏
Thank you @Cori - yes, I am confusing the two… I can follow traditional rules to a degree as being brought up to be “quiet” lol but I soon learned that didn’t serve me well 🤭 I just don’t want to have a turbulent relationship or household if the energies clash. Especially when there’s 3 young impressionable boys who at only 9 (twins) & 6 are almost as tall as I am… I appreciate you Beautiful Lady 🫶🏼🙌🏽✨🌹
Equality
I get it bc when I met my now Ex in 2000, I was caring for my mother, going to school for Healthcare Management, was a manager of a hospital department and modeling. Taught aerobics classes & personnel training and nutrition… thinking back, like the Spicy Cara- i believe it was the “promise of what could be.” This guy was hoping for. But as i said in another post. The children came & we agreed i stayed home, then he took over… women like her & I just aren’t capable of staying in that role. While we can be cooperative, once they break the rules and/or take advantage, all bets are off… especially if the physical stuff & security isn’t there. As 2 salaries became 1 & he wasn’t accustomed of working more and quite frankly, I’ve learned the hard way, doesn’t want to. As he keeps taking and borrowing and going into debt…
Re: book: Lol once a former bf before a few years before I met my Ex said I was a B lol i dont mind, I own it - I responded “I never said I wasn’t!” 😅 - of course I threw him out 😅
Yes
The problem with her she was too gullible I'm giving her power away which was a big mistake on her part.
Maybe
Only when it gets her what she wants immediately 😂 no fair having to wait. Lol
Yes
As for the second lady, put your self in that man’s shoes. Your parent is ill and in the hospital. What is your priority? Where is your focus going to be? Your parent, or someone you went on a couple of dates with? Is he the “responsible party” for his father? If so, he’s got a LOT on his plate right now. And I hate to put this out there, but perhaps his dad is dying, or God forbid, passed away. Maybe this poor guy is busy making nursing home arrangements, or hospice arrangements , or funeral arrangements. If he had a great relationship with his dad, his world is probably upside down right now. I wouldn’t judge this guy as “ghosting.” Your advice was good, Jonathan. I would send one last text, “I really enjoyed our time together. I’m sure you’ve got a lot on your plate right now. If you need to talk, I’m here. Hope your dad is doing okay.” Then let it rest. He may or may not get back to you right away, but if you show kindness and understanding, he may at some point reach out again.
Cara, I think you’re offended with your ex’s comment about you being too dramatic and may have taken it too personally. No one likes to hear criticism and maybe he could have approached you in a different manner by letting you down easier just saying that he feels you two are not a good fit. But since he was being brutally honest about his feelings, you can try not to take it personally and just wish him well and thank him for his honesty. And realize your personality may not suit every man and that’s okay. That’s what makes the world go around. There’s all different people on the world and there will be men who will like and feel comfortable with your personality. And Jonathon is right about owning your decision to have sex with him early on in the relationship. From what you shared, you were not coerced into having sex with him on the second date. It was a mutual decision between two consenting adults. Sometimes women bash men because they are deeply hurt and would rather play the victim role than face the truth and move on. Know in your heart that you’re a great person who will find a great man who will live & accept you just the way you are. Praying you find a job soon. Keep the faith and big hugs!! 🤗
I think that 1st lady is drunk
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As a woman of God, I'd respect, trust, and submit to a man of God, and His commands willingly.
Has that worked for you in the past?
@JonathonAslay It's working very well for me right now. I have my first relationship with God (aka respect, truth, justice, and kindness) and the rest just follows🙂🥰
@JonathonAslay Essentially, we both submit ourselves to first God then each other.
Amen! The bible is clear about submitting to God first and then BOTH men & women submitting to each other.
He sounds too controlling
Possibly
Yes, extremely controlling and manipulative…