I get the appeal of hydrostatic for small acreage owners who intend to do a lot of loader work. For me though, growing up on a farm, it diminishes the tractor for 'real' tractor work, i.e. pulling tasks. The power shuttle option looks like the best compromise to me. Frankly, if I had so much loader work to do that the power shuttle wouldn't cut it, I wouldn't be buying a tractor, I'd be buying a skid steer.
Excellent explanation of the different transmission types available on compact tractors. I went to look at a John Deere 3033R at a dealership just assuming that it was hydrostatic and I had never heard of a power shuttle transmission. As soon as I found out it wasn't a hydrostatic transmission I wasn't interested in the tractor at all. Much to the salesman's credit he suggested that I really should drive it. I gave in and drove the tractor all over the dealership and I loved it, plus the fact that there wasn't that whining sound that hydros make. For me the power shuttle is the perfect transmission as long as you don't have to use the clutch to change directions. I looked at a New Holland tractor that had a shuttle shift but you had to use the clutch to change directions and I didn't like that so much!
Three years ago I upgraded from an old gear drive transmission to a hydrostatic on a new tractor. Unless I start doing a lot of plowing I don't expect to ever go back. Operating on hills is so much safer plus I am about 30% more productive when mowing, even more with the front end loader. Precision placement is much easier with the hydrostat too. On my Kubota L6060 there is a computer between the pedal and the transmission that will slow you down as necessary to keep the PTO at speed then speed back up when the load reduces. This is really useful when mowing as it lets me take advantage of all the power available without lugging the tractor or shifting gears. That adds about another 30% to productivity when mowing.
Had all three over the years and while the hydro is nice it gives up power to a direct drive tranny and has more maintenance and heat buildup, plus a manual is better on steep hills low range in rearend and 1st gear and you can craw down steep hills with no brakes.
As for the powerreverser in JD 6 and 7 families, 6 yes; 7 no. 6E's come with it as the only transmission, with an optional hi/lo 24/12. 6M gets the quad; 6R has all sorts of choices; quads, direct drive; or IVT. The 7's get a IVT or a powershift. They all get a electro-hydraulic reverser regardless. The quads are similar to the PR, just with synchronized ranges and powershift gears + other useful goodies. they're essentially next logical step forward in transmissions.
Superb comparison, courtney! I've always liked the looks and feel of my 3005, but i sure wish it had the power reverser option. Or, for that matter, the hydro. Loader work is really akward, but doable. I grew up on a golf course in the 60s, & during the growing season my dad would let me pitch in & help, cause the hired help just couldn't keep up. I had the choice of a 600 series, 800 series fords, or a new john deere 1020. I always chose the deere, loved that tractor! Long story, but my 3005 reminds me so much of that sweet ol 1020....
It's wireless. I'm editing the videos for a couple hours. Absolutely no noticeable audio difference between the wireless mic and the mic on my computer during editing. I also don't hear a difference during playback of the RUclips version. I'm stumped.
I have a jd4310 for 16 years. Power reverser, perfect for snowplow, mowing, tilling. Perfect control, easy reversing. Loader, iffy. Go forward, shift to low gear, push into the pile, back out, then forward easy, but then grab 1st, grab 2nd, grab 3rd, grab 4 and you're moving good to the dumpoff! Hydrostatic would probably be better. Still, I like the simpler power reverser transmission for reliability and no overheating.
Thanks for your informational videos. I am an old school tractor lover and wonder if you can check the transmission housings on these three models. I prefer cast iron, but am finding a lot of tractors are aluminum. Some people say the new John Deere hydro's are all aluminum but some gear drives are cast iron. Thanks.
For 3005 bit wrong... You can change gears when riding.. but it wont be power shift... If you knowtechnique to synchronize transmission on the fly and you have quick with gear changes, than it's not a problem... Old BLR tractors newer have gear synchronizers on transmission but we still changed gears on the fly and even on some load... sometimes even L and H ranges.. But you should have good quick hands to do so and must feel the tractor.. Of course JD aren't recommend to do so...
You can add that powereverser modulation control to any PR tractor that doesn't have one as an option. Something to think about, if you're buying a used one, or off the dealer's lot and it doesn't have that control. The newer JD gear transmissions- the 9x3 syncro on the 5E series, for example, ARE syncronized for the gear shifts. (but not the range shifts) so you can change them 1-3 on the fly. Personally, the whine from a hydrostat drives me nuts- I'd rather have a geared tranny. My experience is with ag tractors, though. And I agree- nothing like the sound of an old school diesel tractor! The old 4020 had a heck of a bellow when you ran it up to pto speed on the grinder-mixer or silo blower!
@@Abhishek-df5tf A power reverser will make your life easier, if you intend to do work that requires you to go between forward and reverse frequently. They also have more gears, which is nice for doing work like baling- where you need to be at a fairly precise speed. They are a step up in price over a standard synchro gear drive, however. For a simple general duty work tractor, you can get along fine with that.
Current models of Kubota BX, B and Grand L with hydrostatic do not have a clutch pedal. The Kubota basic L with hydrostatic as in the video does have a clutch pedal.
I just watched this video and love your channel, its very informative. I noticed on the 3005 there are springs on the loader bracket. Could you please tell me what the purpose of those would be ?
I’m looking at a 3025e and currently my local dealer has some incentives that puts the E model cheaper than the 3025d gear model. I don’t mind shifting and plan to use it for small 5 acre plot I want to start a 1acre garden, plant some fruit trees, and other various task. If I go with the hydro transmission will I find it lacking in very many ways over the gear drive? I plan to use it to do some loader work, put a grapple on it, and use it with a finish mower to get what I can’t with my push mower.
I think that's a bit of an old school thought. Hydro transmissions are very robust and durable. Proven to last thousands of hours. If you're in a commercial operation, a hydro will last much longer than manual as you typically have multiple operators with varying levels of experience on one piece of equipment. I hear stories about operators burning up clutches in gears. Dunno. Anyone can damage anything if they try hard enough, haha!
I have a new 4052R that has no power when driving in C on the road. It’s fine if I’m driving on the level but comes to it’s knees with any grade elevation. Am I missing something or is there a problem?
@@GoodWorksTractors Thank you for your response and so quickly! Amazing really! I plan to drive back and forth between my daughter’s house to plow snow this winter. It’s 2 miles of hills. I guess I will have to keep it in B. Kinda crazy really, and disappointing…. I have antique tractors (I pull competitively also), you can put them in road gear and go without ever slowing down, regardless of grade. Either way, thank you again! You just won a customer
I don't see the appeal of any tractor made by junk Deere, but then again other men don't appeal to me either. Save yourself the headache and buy anything other than jd.
Glad I have a hydrostatic trans also the Kubota pedal is much better especially when working in when. It is a natural position to pivot in the seat look back and press with your heel. If I head correctly in the video all of your Kubota were sold?
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I get the appeal of hydrostatic for small acreage owners who intend to do a lot of loader work. For me though, growing up on a farm, it diminishes the tractor for 'real' tractor work, i.e. pulling tasks. The power shuttle option looks like the best compromise to me. Frankly, if I had so much loader work to do that the power shuttle wouldn't cut it, I wouldn't be buying a tractor, I'd be buying a skid steer.
Excellent explanation of the different transmission types available on compact tractors. I went to look at a John Deere 3033R at a dealership just assuming that it was hydrostatic and I had never heard of a power shuttle transmission. As soon as I found out it wasn't a hydrostatic transmission I wasn't interested in the tractor at all. Much to the salesman's credit he suggested that I really should drive it. I gave in and drove the tractor all over the dealership and I loved it, plus the fact that there wasn't that whining sound that hydros make. For me the power shuttle is the perfect transmission as long as you don't have to use the clutch to change directions. I looked at a New Holland tractor that had a shuttle shift but you had to use the clutch to change directions and I didn't like that so much!
Thanks so much for sharing your experience!
This is so cool. More demos please, there are people out there that have never owned a tractor. And I can hear you just fine.
Three years ago I upgraded from an old gear drive transmission to a hydrostatic on a new tractor. Unless I start doing a lot of plowing I don't expect to ever go back. Operating on hills is so much safer plus I am about 30% more productive when mowing, even more with the front end loader. Precision placement is much easier with the hydrostat too. On my Kubota L6060 there is a computer between the pedal and the transmission that will slow you down as necessary to keep the PTO at speed then speed back up when the load reduces. This is really useful when mowing as it lets me take advantage of all the power available without lugging the tractor or shifting gears. That adds about another 30% to productivity when mowing.
I don't know proper English can u tell me agriculture purpose used power reversar tractor best or regular models
Love your enthusiasm for the old school rumble of the gear tractor. I thought I was the only one!
Haha, I smile every time I start one up!
Feeding hay with our Oliver 1555 was a pain, would have loved a hydrostatic drive back in those old days.
I like all three tranys. I used a gear drive only. years ago. Enjoyed Episode 🚜👍
This is a great video for people to learn about transmissions.
Thanks Walter!
First time I’ve seen a power reverser explained,would now consider looking at a tractor with one!
Good comparison video . I have used all three so far . Hydro still rules for me .
Thank you Stephen!
Thanks for the video Courtney. It was a fun and informative watch. Gotta love playing with tractors!
Haha, yes it doesn't really feel like work :)
Had all three over the years and while the hydro is nice it gives up power to a direct drive tranny and has more maintenance and heat buildup, plus a manual is better on steep hills low range in rearend and 1st gear and you can craw down steep hills with no brakes.
Very good comparison between the different transmissions.
Thank you very much!
As for the powerreverser in JD 6 and 7 families, 6 yes; 7 no. 6E's come with it as the only transmission, with an optional hi/lo 24/12. 6M gets the quad; 6R has all sorts of choices; quads, direct drive; or IVT. The 7's get a IVT or a powershift. They all get a electro-hydraulic reverser regardless. The quads are similar to the PR, just with synchronized ranges and powershift gears + other useful goodies. they're essentially next logical step forward in transmissions.
Great video with lots useful information on the different types of transmissions. If I ever need a tractor you’ll be getting a call. Take care.
Thanks Sneak!
Superb comparison, courtney! I've always liked the looks and feel of my 3005, but i sure wish it had the power reverser option. Or, for that matter, the hydro. Loader work is really akward, but doable. I grew up on a golf course in the 60s, & during the growing season my dad would let me pitch in & help, cause the hired help just couldn't keep up. I had the choice of a 600 series, 800 series fords, or a new john deere 1020. I always chose the deere, loved that tractor! Long story, but my 3005 reminds me so much of that sweet ol 1020....
Yes, I love the 3005, 790, 990, etc. Such cool machines!
My left ear enjoyed this video!
Man, I was hoping I fixed whatever the volume issue was that happened in the last video. Any volume issue does not show up on my end at all.
It's wireless. I'm editing the videos for a couple hours. Absolutely no noticeable audio difference between the wireless mic and the mic on my computer during editing. I also don't hear a difference during playback of the RUclips version. I'm stumped.
I have a jd4310 for 16 years. Power reverser, perfect for snowplow, mowing, tilling. Perfect control, easy reversing. Loader, iffy. Go forward, shift to low gear, push into the pile, back out, then forward easy, but then grab 1st, grab 2nd, grab 3rd, grab 4 and you're moving good to the dumpoff! Hydrostatic would probably be better. Still, I like the simpler power reverser transmission for reliability and no overheating.
I use the foot feed more than the throttle.
excellent video. Very well explained thanks.
Wow! Super informative. Thank you
I appreciate it David. Hopefully worthwhile :)
Thanks for your informational videos. I am an old school tractor lover and wonder if you can check the transmission housings on these three models. I prefer cast iron, but am finding a lot of tractors are aluminum. Some people say the new John Deere hydro's are all aluminum but some gear drives are cast iron. Thanks.
Is a gear drive of similar hp going to be able to put much more power to the ground than a hydrostatic?
Very informative.
Thank you sir!
Which style is the most bullet proof, needs the least maintenance or repair? Flat ground, mostly mowing large fields. Thanks.
Power reversar tractor best or non power reversar
The gear drive should be better for pulling.
Power reverser all the way!
They are pretty easy to use. I like it!
For 3005 bit wrong... You can change gears when riding.. but it wont be power shift...
If you knowtechnique to synchronize transmission on the fly and you have quick with gear changes, than it's not a problem... Old BLR tractors newer have gear synchronizers on transmission but we still changed gears on the fly and even on some load... sometimes even L and H ranges.. But you should have good quick hands to do so and must feel the tractor..
Of course JD aren't recommend to do so...
You can add that powereverser modulation control to any PR tractor that doesn't have one as an option. Something to think about, if you're buying a used one, or off the dealer's lot and it doesn't have that control. The newer JD gear transmissions- the 9x3 syncro on the 5E series, for example, ARE syncronized for the gear shifts. (but not the range shifts) so you can change them 1-3 on the fly.
Personally, the whine from a hydrostat drives me nuts- I'd rather have a geared tranny. My experience is with ag tractors, though. And I agree- nothing like the sound of an old school diesel tractor! The old 4020 had a heck of a bellow when you ran it up to pto speed on the grinder-mixer or silo blower!
Power reversal tractor best or non power reversar
@@Abhishek-df5tf A power reverser will make your life easier, if you intend to do work that requires you to go between forward and reverse frequently. They also have more gears, which is nice for doing work like baling- where you need to be at a fairly precise speed.
They are a step up in price over a standard synchro gear drive, however. For a simple general duty work tractor, you can get along fine with that.
@@pyroman6000 which tractor suitable for agriculture purpose power reversar or regular gear system
I just subscribed! Looking for a JD it’s gunna be my first tractor. Thanks for all the help.
Thanks for the sub!
Good Works Tractors Hey bro I need a tractor for loading 4 to 5 inch rock. What would you recommend? Will a 4066R to the job?
I have the 3005 since new in 07 always starts plows snow rottotils runs snow blower cement mixer brush mower
What are the top speeds of the hydro and power reverser transmission?
I like your videos and the things you talk about. When you're talking is the problem. I cant here you
Sorry, I still can't replicate that issue on my end. It's a head scratcher for me. Frustrating for sure1
It's not that I totally can't here you but it sounds like you are 20 feet away from me.
Are there any top speed differences between transmissions?
Current models of Kubota BX, B and Grand L with hydrostatic do not have a clutch pedal. The Kubota basic L with hydrostatic as in the video does have a clutch pedal.
Thanks for sharing! I live in a used tractor world where almost every Kubota I get in stock besides the bx has a clutch on it :)
I just watched this video and love your channel, its very informative. I noticed on the 3005 there are springs on the loader bracket. Could you please tell me what the purpose of those would be ?
Thank you. I think they simply provide cushion/absorption to the loader. Several series of JD have this feature.
When should you use low gear and when should you use high?
Can u review a hydraulic tilt on the tractors 3 point hitch? Thanks for sharing
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I’m looking at a 3025e and currently my local dealer has some incentives that puts the E model cheaper than the 3025d gear model. I don’t mind shifting and plan to use it for small 5 acre plot I want to start a 1acre garden, plant some fruit trees, and other various task. If I go with the hydro transmission will I find it lacking in very many ways over the gear drive? I plan to use it to do some loader work, put a grapple on it, and use it with a finish mower to get what I can’t with my push mower.
Agriculture purpose which tractor suitable hydrostatic or power reversar
Are hydrostatic trans. tractors good for brush hogging larger fields or is a power reverser trans. better for brush hogging?
If you are going to do a lot oh heavy pulling like plowing ect you need a gear tractor. Preferably with a shuttle transmission.
Yes, that's one of the main purposes.
Nice video 👌
I want to ask PowrReverser,PowrQuad and Power 8 what are the differences between these transmissions;
I'm not sure
@@GoodWorksTractors Have you ever drive some of these transmissions;
So it looks like the hydro doesn't have mechanical brakes/turning brakes. Maybe a follow up video?
Do you mean split brakes?
I've always heard them referred as Steering or turning brakes. I'm not sure how the hydro setup works, I never operated one.
Lots of the larger hydro machines have them. I'm staring at one right now.
@@Rail9222 Varies by tractor. Some Mahindra HST models have split brakes.
Why don’t the new John Deere 3R series have armrests?
But think about this manuals are prove to last longer than I would say any other transmission but I could be wrong tho
I think that's a bit of an old school thought. Hydro transmissions are very robust and durable. Proven to last thousands of hours. If you're in a commercial operation, a hydro will last much longer than manual as you typically have multiple operators with varying levels of experience on one piece of equipment. I hear stories about operators burning up clutches in gears. Dunno. Anyone can damage anything if they try hard enough, haha!
@@GoodWorksTractors that makes sense, yeh your right. I'm just old fashion I guess
I have a new 4052R that has no power when driving in C on the road. It’s fine if I’m driving on the level but comes to it’s knees with any grade elevation. Am I missing something or is there a problem?
That's very typical and no problem at all. C is for flat, no load situations. No torque at all. I've stalled them out going up hills in C.
@@GoodWorksTractors Thank you for your response and so quickly! Amazing really! I plan to drive back and forth between my daughter’s house to plow snow this winter. It’s 2 miles of hills. I guess I will have to keep it in B. Kinda crazy really, and disappointing…. I have antique tractors (I pull competitively also), you can put them in road gear and go without ever slowing down, regardless of grade. Either way, thank you again! You just won a customer
Why do you have to come to a stop to shift the gear drive transmission?
Because it doesn’t have the optional synchronized transmission.
75 hp tractor hydstatic or power reversar
What model JD is offered with gear transmission and mid pto ?
I'm not aware of a model. Maybe a 3r with a Power Reverser? Not sure.
That 3005 looks just like a 790. What’s the difference?
Why use ABC for high medium and low??? Why not use HML??
Because the engineer had to over think this detail
Ah, yes, the good old fashioned "cbna" shift pattern we all know so well
Yeah that's comical. So much better than putting L, M, N, H on there because the can be soooo confusing. LOL
@@williamh9100 L!? What could that possibly stand for?! This tractor doesn't have a lobby!!
When you upgrade your personal 3R to the 4R series will you get the hydro or PR?
Probably hydro. I do a LOT of loader work.
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I don't see the appeal of any tractor made by junk Deere, but then again other men don't appeal to me either. Save yourself the headache and buy anything other than jd.
Glad I have a hydrostatic trans also the Kubota pedal is much better especially when working in when. It is a natural position to pivot in the seat look back and press with your heel. If I head correctly in the video all of your Kubota were sold?