Man i cant wait to lay hands on an anti latency system and do some serious magic. This is so nicely done. Youre totally correct about the importance of lighting matching, im honestly surprised how its obvious that many people dont get that simple logic right.
Brooo!!! I just tried doing this in my bedroom. The only issue was the camera tracking. That was pain in the ass.! But I’m still troubleshooting, once it gets rolling I’ll have a damn good short film and no one will ever know I made that in a freaking bedroom. You are such an inspiration for this brother 🎉
Shame I can only like this video once! Outstanding demonstration for something that is incredibly technical (maybe not for you 😆) I'm sure your viewers will take a great deal from this
Great stuff! I remember doing it with my ipad and it was a nightmare lol. Composure is a little finicky but the latency can be fixed within. Unfortunately I have given up on virtual setups as its just too costly to do it where I am from, with only the bigger companies having monopoly over the VP industry here. I have mostly return back to CG/3D work, but I still watch your stuff cause you have proven the impossible and with the knowledge you provided, hope to try it out myself someday. Looking forward to your next video!
fantastic video! i’ve been keen on experimenting more with virtual production, but the barrier to entry to get everything running has always seemed too complex. massive thanks friend
Glad to have you aboard! If you haven't already you should join us over on the discord too. Cant wait to get cracking with some more virtual production.
I'm in the process of deciding what kind of VP system I'm going to buy, and I'm leaning a bit more towards the Vive Mars system. I thought $5000 would be hard to beat. If you don't mind me asking how much did this system cost you? For live streaming you would need additional hardware like a camera state tracking system to get rid of the camera image delay. That puts the Mars system in front of the Antilatency system for me, because everything is included.
The system was sent to me to try so im not sure on the cost but I think the whole system would run around 2k. think id be able to solve the video latency with a decklink capture card (im only using a camlink) and the ose only cost around 500 tops. So overall it could be half the price of mars...but seriously Im not totally sure.
@@JoshuaMKerr When a decklink card would be enough, that would be really great. If we are steriouly below 5k then...Wow! Looking forward to your future VP experiments. 👍💯
Great video! I’ve been curious about using antilantency, but some people tell me it doesn’t work with my mocap system. This video makes me want to take another look into it though!
@@AntilatencyTracker Not sure if my last reply was accidently deleted, but I developed my own mocap system that uses steamvr and live link xr. Some people in my discord tried getting it working with Antilatency, but couldn't for some reason (I suspect its a player pawn issue or something). Anyways, if you search for Mega Mocap VR you will find the free github repo.
Hi there. I started out with a setup like this and theres a lot of pros and cons. If you want to see the results I got there's a short film on the channel called A Stitch in Time.
It was a fair few years since I did it so I'm sure the approach in Unreal has changed since then. But I used a short throw projector on the floor with about two metres between the projector and a white sheet.
Good work! If you want, you could paint the walls green and then use your green screen on the floor to get a full greenscreen room. Keep up the hard work. Excited to see what else you do.
Interesting idea. I think I'll be trying something like this. Might have to cut little holes for the tracking sensors...might be a drawback of the system
@@JoshuaMKerr ah, true. Not sure how the sensors would handle the obstruction. Out of curiosity what made you choose the anti latency system over something like Vive Mars?
I have almost the same room setup (maybe a little less) with a ceiling height of 2.5 meters ) I'm testing Aximmetry and trying out Virtual Production but with Vive Pro. Thanks for the video and good luck with filmmaking!
Nice Video! This inspire me a lot. I would like to build my own studio and am wondering what light I use to light up the green screen. Could you tell me what light tube you used to light up the green screen in this video, please?
Hi, friend. Can you tell me how to record the movement of a virtual camera in Unreal? so that motion trajectories are recorded in the program project. for example. I will connect a virtual camera to Unreal and connect it to a real camera using a VIVE tracker. I will film the actors against a green background. Next I will make a scene in Unreal. for example, an airplane cockpit. And I will need to insert the actors into the scene recorded in Unreal. But there will be several takes during filming. Now I don’t understand how to record camera movement in Unreal? Help!
Hey, Joshua!! I love to see your content, it is really inspiring!! I would like to ask you some question, i'm thinking about to buy a tracking camera system, i've been thinking Mo sys, Retracker bliss or similar, not so expensive, what do you think?? My room is similiar to yours, may be taller, but almost. I've got the camera, some lights, only needs de system. I really appreciate your opinion. Brotherly greetings from Viña del Mar, Chile.
Well ive only used vive trackers and the antilatency system from the video. Antilatency takes a bit of time to set up but you only need to do it once. Downside is that in a small room its hard to film a full bodyshot without blocking the sensors on the floor. Vive was just okay but so much more of a hassle.
hi. Bliss tracker is your best bet for the moment. You also can do focus and pull but that needs to buy other stuff, bliss is only for the cam tracking atm. Best part about bliss is the portability, you can go anywhere you want.
Great, I am very new for this but how green screen is converted with some background which you are showing. I heard that we need big led screens for that.
We don't needed LED walls to comp in a background. The process is called chroma keying and it's been around for longer than I have. Nowadays you essentially remove the green (key it out) with software like after effects and put your new background in its place.
Hi there, I'm looking at the Aximmetry option but concerned about the technical set up required as it seemed you ran into quite a bit of trouble setting it up. Any chance you can do a walkthrough on how you got it working? You do mention a few plugins & other software to use, but I didn't see a tutorial link. Any help would be awesome, I've been looking a the VIVE Mars CamTrack $5K kit, but do like the floor tracking option & seems Aximetry has been used in more professional applications- but seems like a more challenge to set up as it's not really a plug & go option. Also how much processing power do you need to do all the tracking & the Unreal live playback? Thanks :)
The live tracking doesn't take much extra processing power as far as I know. Antilatency does take a bit of setup but once you've done it once it is very easy to use again and again. I will have to make some more detailed tutorials.
@@JoshuaMKerr Awesome! Lifesaver as I know it's going to be a steep learning curve & not many clean & clear tutorials out on the system. You mention some links in your video, but don't see any in the description, can you shoot some through? Thanks heaps :)
@@JoshuaMKerr That's awesome to hear, yeah looks a little tricky, but time saver if you don't have to go through that effort every time. Are you considering using a Camlink 4k or Decklink 8k capture card for real time feedback? Yeah looking forward to those tutorials as from the views people would watch it.
Hey Josh, Any update on those tutorials - I can't be the only one as your channel has been getting some great view counts. More info needed from a start to finish project build in Unreal 5 with a live camera tracked with Antilatency - That would be amazing! @@JoshuaMKerr
Yooo, this video was great and very concise 🙌🏼💪🏼 I have question however, I checked out their website for pricing but it’s just way too confusing. Can you list the exact components that were sent to you to get this setup working? I could then go back to their site and price accordingly 🙏🏼
I think the best thing to do would be to reach out to them on email. You could even mention the video to them and I'm sure they'd be better at recommending a setup than me.
In the final synced footage there is jitter going on, is that because you handheld the camera or is that a jitter from the tracker, or something that comes from the different movements of the tracker on tge camera and the camera Ibis?
i dont know antilatency but i know that there is some Kalman filtering going on in most cases wich also means that if it's enabled and your handled you will notice some jittering.
Hi, how do you record the tracking data in antilatency, and is it possible to record the tracking in antilatency with the sequencer playing with metahuman animation. Thank you
Is this possible even if the camera doesn't have genlock? How is that possible? My English is not good, so I may not understand well even after watching the video.
Hi Joshua .did you fixed about delay .because i considering to buy this solution(Antilatency) is this problem may be about Genlock sync timecode input to UE? Delay Now it serious for me
@@JoshuaMKerr not right delay is fixed by tweaking the delay (for me in ms) directly inside UE. Usually you see the delay and you adjust by panning quickly right or left and ajusting delay if there is some.
@@JoshuaMKerr Hello Josh I am French and I have been following you for a while Are you going to make a video to explain in detail how to configure it and what is the price I don't understand on the antilatency website my english level is quite low...
You're not wrong. The same result can be acheived for less with basic vive trackers and base stations. It's just less stable and more of a chore to setup each time
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Good to hear someone actually break things down
Glad to be helpful
Dude that's some great lighting work on this tiny space!
Thanks so much!
Man i cant wait to lay hands on an anti latency system and do some serious magic.
This is so nicely done. Youre totally correct about the importance of lighting matching, im honestly surprised how its obvious that many people dont get that simple logic right.
Not an easy thing to acheive even if you know its mega important. Looking forward to telling some new stories.
Exactly what I was looking for, thanks for showing that it can be done in a small space 😎
You're welcome. Come and join us on the discord :)
Brooo!!!
I just tried doing this in my bedroom. The only issue was the camera tracking. That was pain in the ass.! But I’m still troubleshooting, once it gets rolling I’ll have a damn good short film and no one will ever know I made that in a freaking bedroom.
You are such an inspiration for this brother 🎉
Thanks for this comment. I'm really glad you've persevered with the tech, it can get very fiddly. But hell it's all worth it in the end.
Shame I can only like this video once! Outstanding demonstration for something that is incredibly technical (maybe not for you 😆) I'm sure your viewers will take a great deal from this
Cheers mate xx
Great stuff! I remember doing it with my ipad and it was a nightmare lol. Composure is a little finicky but the latency can be fixed within. Unfortunately I have given up on virtual setups as its just too costly to do it where I am from, with only the bigger companies having monopoly over the VP industry here. I have mostly return back to CG/3D work, but I still watch your stuff cause you have proven the impossible and with the knowledge you provided, hope to try it out myself someday. Looking forward to your next video!
Glad you like my work. I enjoy a challenge. Filmmaking is for everyone, not just companies. We can do anything we want.
fantastic video! i’ve been keen on experimenting more with virtual production, but the barrier to entry to get everything running has always seemed too complex.
massive thanks friend
I enjoyed the puzzle but hope the videos I make help people to dive in. Its frustrating at times but its also pure creation.
Excellent and inspiring work as always!
Thanks so much!
Incredible work mate!
Thanks!
My man, I've subscribed. I'm looking forward to learn more from you about virtual production with Unreal Engine 😊👏👏👏
Glad to have you aboard! If you haven't already you should join us over on the discord too. Cant wait to get cracking with some more virtual production.
@@JoshuaMKerr I will join, thank you for reminding me :) We have simillar goals for content productions, so I'd be glad to learn from you :)
wescott is great :) the soft material bounces light well
Mate! I love it. Such a good material.
WOW THIS WAS VERY INSIGHTFUL!
Hi man! Glad you liked it.
very usefull info! Greate!
I'm in the process of deciding what kind of VP system I'm going to buy, and I'm leaning a bit more towards the Vive Mars system. I thought $5000 would be hard to beat. If you don't mind me asking how much did this system cost you?
For live streaming you would need additional hardware like a camera state tracking system to get rid of the camera image delay. That puts the Mars system in front of the Antilatency system for me, because everything is included.
The system was sent to me to try so im not sure on the cost but I think the whole system would run around 2k. think id be able to solve the video latency with a decklink capture card (im only using a camlink) and the ose only cost around 500 tops. So overall it could be half the price of mars...but seriously Im not totally sure.
@@JoshuaMKerr When a decklink card would be enough, that would be really great. If we are steriouly below 5k then...Wow! Looking forward to your future VP experiments. 👍💯
@@violentpixelation5486 Im not sure on the decklink but will be researching it.
@@JoshuaMKerr decklink is around 800 but i strongly suggest you dont buy mars
@@ViensVite wow that's a firm conclusion. did you try both ? Je me pose la mm question en ce moment, anti-latency ou vive mars
Great video! I’ve been curious about using antilantency, but some people tell me it doesn’t work with my mocap system. This video makes me want to take another look into it though!
Hi! If you don't mind us asking, what kind of Mocap system are you using?
Glad it was helpful!
@@AntilatencyTracker Not sure if my last reply was accidently deleted, but I developed my own mocap system that uses steamvr and live link xr. Some people in my discord tried getting it working with Antilatency, but couldn't for some reason (I suspect its a player pawn issue or something). Anyways, if you search for Mega Mocap VR you will find the free github repo.
Interest. You smart man
Thanks
This is a great guide. I've been wanting to also set something like this up in a small space, so I'm excited to get this going. Thanks for the video!
Youre welcome. Let me know if you have any questions.
Your green screen lighting and keying was tip top
Thanks!
Awesome. This is very inspiring. Thank you
How about replacing the green screen with a projector screen (instead of an LED wall)? Would you be able to test a setup like that?
Thanks!
Hi there. I started out with a setup like this and theres a lot of pros and cons. If you want to see the results I got there's a short film on the channel called A Stitch in Time.
@@JoshuaMKerr The short looks great! Did you use any Virtual Production related techniques in the short?
It is real time camera tracking and back projection via unreal engine.
@@JoshuaMKerr Would you mind sharing what the projector setup was like?
It was a fair few years since I did it so I'm sure the approach in Unreal has changed since then. But I used a short throw projector on the floor with about two metres between the projector and a white sheet.
blew my mind
Cool. Stay tuned haha
Very clean sir!
Super clean :)
Good work! If you want, you could paint the walls green and then use your green screen on the floor to get a full greenscreen room. Keep up the hard work. Excited to see what else you do.
Interesting idea. I think I'll be trying something like this. Might have to cut little holes for the tracking sensors...might be a drawback of the system
@@JoshuaMKerr ah, true.
Not sure how the sensors would handle the obstruction. Out of curiosity what made you choose the anti latency system over something like Vive Mars?
@@skyridestudios I was sent the system to try out. Im keen to test the mars if I get a chance.
@@JoshuaMKerr they should definitely send you the gear to compare, it's the clash of (mini) titans :)
I have almost the same room setup (maybe a little less) with a ceiling height of 2.5 meters ) I'm testing Aximmetry and trying out Virtual Production but with Vive Pro. Thanks for the video and good luck with filmmaking!
Good luck to you too. It's amazing what you can get away with in a small space.
Nice Video! This inspire me a lot. I would like to build my own studio and am wondering what light I use to light up the green screen. Could you tell me what light tube you used to light up the green screen in this video, please?
Ah yes, I use the godox tl120 tube lights
@@JoshuaMKerr Thanks a lot, I'll take that as reference
@@SunGrady-fc9vb any time
Hi, friend. Can you tell me how to record the movement of a virtual camera in Unreal? so that motion trajectories are recorded in the program project. for example. I will connect a virtual camera to Unreal and connect it to a real camera using a VIVE tracker. I will film the actors against a green background. Next I will make a scene in Unreal. for example, an airplane cockpit. And I will need to insert the actors into the scene recorded in Unreal. But there will be several takes during filming. Now I don’t understand how to record camera movement in Unreal? Help!
Hey, Joshua!! I love to see your content, it is really inspiring!! I would like to ask you some question, i'm thinking about to buy a tracking camera system, i've been thinking Mo sys, Retracker bliss or similar, not so expensive, what do you think?? My room is similiar to yours, may be taller, but almost. I've got the camera, some lights, only needs de system. I really appreciate your opinion. Brotherly greetings from Viña del Mar, Chile.
Well ive only used vive trackers and the antilatency system from the video. Antilatency takes a bit of time to set up but you only need to do it once. Downside is that in a small room its hard to film a full bodyshot without blocking the sensors on the floor.
Vive was just okay but so much more of a hassle.
@@JoshuaMKerr thanks for your time! I'm still thinking about 🤔
hi.
Bliss tracker is your best bet for the moment.
You also can do focus and pull but that needs to buy other stuff, bliss is only for the cam tracking atm.
Best part about bliss is the portability, you can go anywhere you want.
Keep going ❤
Cheers. I will
Amazing job!
Thank you! Cheers!
At 6:40 when you say that you could use a greenscreen floor, I think isn’t a good idea as you would block the trackers 😅
Other than that, great video!
I'm looking at solutions for that. It might be possible to get green tiles
Nicely done. Thank you.
Thanks!
Great, I am very new for this but how green screen is converted with some background which you are showing. I heard that we need big led screens for that.
We don't needed LED walls to comp in a background. The process is called chroma keying and it's been around for longer than I have. Nowadays you essentially remove the green (key it out) with software like after effects and put your new background in its place.
Hi there, I'm looking at the Aximmetry option but concerned about the technical set up required as it seemed you ran into quite a bit of trouble setting it up. Any chance you can do a walkthrough on how you got it working? You do mention a few plugins & other software to use, but I didn't see a tutorial link. Any help would be awesome, I've been looking a the VIVE Mars CamTrack $5K kit, but do like the floor tracking option & seems Aximetry has been used in more professional applications- but seems like a more challenge to set up as it's not really a plug & go option.
Also how much processing power do you need to do all the tracking & the Unreal live playback? Thanks :)
The live tracking doesn't take much extra processing power as far as I know. Antilatency does take a bit of setup but once you've done it once it is very easy to use again and again. I will have to make some more detailed tutorials.
@@JoshuaMKerr Awesome! Lifesaver as I know it's going to be a steep learning curve & not many clean & clear tutorials out on the system. You mention some links in your video, but don't see any in the description, can you shoot some through? Thanks heaps :)
@@JoshuaMKerr That's awesome to hear, yeah looks a little tricky, but time saver if you don't have to go through that effort every time. Are you considering using a Camlink 4k or Decklink 8k capture card for real time feedback?
Yeah looking forward to those tutorials as from the views people would watch it.
Hey Josh, Any update on those tutorials - I can't be the only one as your channel has been getting some great view counts. More info needed from a start to finish project build in Unreal 5 with a live camera tracked with Antilatency - That would be amazing! @@JoshuaMKerr
A spray bottle with warm water will take out the creases better then a steamer. You may need to wait for ti to dry, but it's a much faster process.
top tip. Will give it a try
great video! you help me a lot bro
Glad to hear it!
Hey man! Great video, I think I might just have to get this. What size floor did they send you?
Good question. They did send me more flooring than I used so not totally sure. Maybe drop them an email.
Great stuff! any approximate of how much a setup like this would cost? I couldnt find anything like the setup in its webpage
Glad you like the video. This is the pricing page I found. My gear is just on loan from them. antilatency.com/pricing
Your videos are great!... I learn a lot, Thanks
Glad you like them!
This is what I want😮.
Its a good setup. Still, an extra few metres would be nice.
@@JoshuaMKerr I want to ask what does the trackers do ....why do I need this
Thank you
You're welcome
Great work mate, I think this kind of set up is brilliant! Can’t wait to see what you get up to with it.
You and me both. Ive just finished a test short film so we will see how it goes
Amazing Video man, can I ask the cost of the tracker set up
The tracking setup was on loan to me so I'm not sure. I think pricing is on the Antilatency website.
Yooo, this video was great and very concise 🙌🏼💪🏼 I have question however, I checked out their website for pricing but it’s just way too confusing. Can you list the exact components that were sent to you to get this setup working? I could then go back to their site and price accordingly 🙏🏼
I think the best thing to do would be to reach out to them on email. You could even mention the video to them and I'm sure they'd be better at recommending a setup than me.
Pricing for the minimum setup of a 10m2 floor base and all required to track one camera was with shipping around $2700
I think the total value of the gear is around 2125 USD
loveeeeeeeeee
Thanks
just earned a sub
Awesome man. Glad to have you
sorry I did not understand, how you do that live tracking. Do you have some aditional information?
What do you need to know? Its a system sold by Antilatency, that's what does the tracking.
Your leds are rgb, turn them to green you'll get far better results lighting the screen that way
I have been since this vid. Although so far I think kelvin 3600 gives equally good results.
In the final synced footage there is jitter going on, is that because you handheld the camera or is that a jitter from the tracker, or something that comes from the different movements of the tracker on tge camera and the camera Ibis?
It is possibly either the extra shaky handheld or lens image stabilisation. definitely more testing needed.
i dont know antilatency but i know that there is some Kalman filtering going on in most cases wich also means that if it's enabled and your handled you will notice some jittering.
Someone get this man a stage!
I could try a little standup comedy...maybe a song or two.
@@JoshuaMKerr I meant a full size sound stage / studio, but expectations switched now I kinda want to hear a song!
Man I would love a bit more space to film in...or get a few mates round and do some kareoke.
how much all the equipment cost ? everything except the camera
I believe the tracking equipment is about 2k. But best check Antilatency's website
Hi, how do you record the tracking data in antilatency, and is it possible to record the tracking in antilatency with the sequencer playing with metahuman animation. Thank you
Never tried it with a Metahuman. Im planning more Antilatency content.
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Is this possible even if the camera doesn't have genlock? How is that possible? My English is not good, so I may not understand well even after watching the video.
The footage and background are synced in post so no need for genlock.
What do you call the trackers you used
Antilatency trackers
@@JoshuaMKerr Thanks
where did you get that plugin?
Also the camera tracking equipment/floor mats etc?
It's equipment from Antilatency. I was sent it to test out.
Link to the flooring please
This is the company. I recommend shooting them an email antilatency.com/
Love the idea of the antilatency gear… but shipping to the UK costs more than the kit so I think I’ll pass.
That's fair. Luckilly there are more affordable options. I used to use Vive for live tracking and the results were fine.
Hi Joshua .did you fixed about delay .because i considering to buy this solution(Antilatency) is this problem may be about Genlock sync timecode input to UE? Delay Now it serious for me
I believe the delay is fixed by hving a caoture card with genlock but I dont have the hardware for that.
@@JoshuaMKerr not right delay is fixed by tweaking the delay (for me in ms) directly inside UE. Usually you see the delay and you adjust by panning quickly right or left and ajusting delay if there is some.
Where can someone buy these? And how much please?
Anitlatency sell them but I'm not sure on cost, this one was borrowed.
@@JoshuaMKerr thank you
You are very welcome
What was the price for your Virtual set up
I'm being loaned the gear but I have been told that the overal value of the tracking setup is 2125 USD
lol i literally hve the same green scren and the same steamer 😂
They're a winning combo
😲😲😲😲😲😲👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
(takes a bow)
@@JoshuaMKerr Hello Josh
I am French and I have been following you for a while
Are you going to make a video to explain in detail how to configure it and what is the price
I don't understand on the antilatency website my english level is quite low...
uggh this is still so expensive
You're not wrong. The same result can be acheived for less with basic vive trackers and base stations. It's just less stable and more of a chore to setup each time
@@JoshuaMKerr I still want it, I’m just complaining 😩😂🖤
Just saw the result but the tracking is nauseating
I think vlog handheld operation doesn't help.
The plural of foot is feet.
Yes, I misspoke.