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I think I speak for a lot of us consumers (not all) when I say we only care somewhat about climate change or don't care at all. I can see environmental pollution as a bigger issue, but knowing a product I'm buying is "100% recycled" doesn't make me want to buy it any more (makes me less likely to with food packaging). I wouldn't want to buy something just to feel like I'm "helping the environment" but compromising on what I'm actually looking for with the product and paying higher prices. The best outcome would be for businesses to maintain or improve the quality and prices of their items, while also finding newer ways to promote environmental sustainability. That way consumers won't have to settle for less and would demand more environmentally-safe alternatives.
We eat fish skins where I live so it's a minor shock that edible parts only get thrown in the bin. Still, this is a nice idea and I hope they'd be able continue doing it.
@@ag4103 Salmon skin is enjoyable after being fried though. Considering that is what makes up the majority of Ictyos' raw materials, it is such a sad waste of a food source, especially before this whole fish leather business began.
I'd be a careful how you compare the impact of cowhide leather to fish leather development. There are companies that tan cowhide almost exactly the same way using vegetable tanning, no chromium, and treating their wastewater. Plus, cowhide too can be a byproduct of the food industry. Many vegetable tanning cowhide companies have left developed countries due to nearby residents confusing them with chromium tanneries. Developing countries with relaxed environmental laws then have an opportunity to replace that supply with cheap chromium-tanned leather, which is being described in this video as undesirable. The environmental-caucious methods you describe is not unique to fish leather. It is the company that is choosing this approach.
Exactly what i was thinking! Their choosing to make this New idea seem revolutionary and genius, when in fact its just another way of manufacturing, and by the looks of the size of fish skin, it probably takes even more time, effort and machines/chemicals than regular cow hide
Chrome tanned leather is really nice shit, but it's certainly not the only type of leather there is, in fact I'm not even sure if it's the most common type considering how many other processes and types of leather there are on the market.
Yep, seemed kind of suspicious to me that the ecological benefits were basically limited to choice of tanning agents and dyes, along keeping a small amount of methane out of the atmosphere from skin decomposition. By no means is this a bad thing, but they're really overselling the environmental aspect of fish skins while disparaging cow leather for reasons that have nothing to do with the source animal
I love that he said “each year we are failing to develop new skins” that’s so humble and realistic. This is a phenomenal idea and I’m excited to see where this new product goes. As long as it remains sourced as a byproduct and not farmed for skin then I’m all for it. Gave up leather a long time ago, though I still love the look. This might be a great solution
Yeah I smiled when he said that... failure is completely normal and part of any good development process, so good on him for embracing it and for trying again after each failure until he gets what he's looking for.
As long as we continue a commodity obsessed society products like this are not the solution. Fish leather cuts down on waste, but it does nothing to prevent overfishing and will increase the demand for fishing.
Korean and Japanese entrepreneurs have already started converting fisk skins in an edible food product - fish skin potato chips. It's actually very tasty, and comes in a variety of flavors. Only issue is - it does have a distinct fishey after taste which may prevent this product from taking off into the mainstream consumership.
I love the fact that even after they get the skins they still pick off the scraps and give to a company to make fertilizer. Just goes to show that EVERY part of the animal can be used for something.
@RUclips Commenter exactly what you said, they got it from a sushi shop. The main conditions of them processing the fish skins is that the skins must came from a place where the meat is consime, not from a place where people specifically bred the fish for leather.
Yeah except the fishes are acooped from the bottom of the ocean by factory-ships, which dump back up to 90% (ninety!!) of the animals they catch back in the ocean, mostly dead after sorting. It's this a good thing? Do you know there will be no more fish in like 2050 if we continue like this? Stop eating industrial fish from the ocean for starters
I like fish skins especially the salmon ones cause I grew up eating them. They're great fried or grilled, even on a whole steamed fish once the skin is descaled. So it did feel a bit of a waste that it is not a worldwide practice, but glad that they're still making use of it for other things
I used to work at a grocery store that had a sushi guy, he used to throw away the salmon skins untill he started giving them to me. I used to eat fried salmon skin as regular lunch, its one of the things I miss most from that job lol.
Yeah, it's a common practice here in Brazil to eat fried fish skins as a side dish in sushi restaurants. I thought it was more common worldwide. Btw, I aways grill salmon steaks with skin.
As pointless as bioplastics. if they farmed them they would definitely use the meat for something (cat food for example). They only use food waste because it's cheaper for them.
@@GorgyCL You're missing the point because the point of the fish leather was to take food waste that would be just thrown away, and turn it into something useful. They make sure the place that they're taking from isnt just farming hides so that food waste doesnt go to waste.
@@Macc985 Again, it wouldn't go to waste if farmed. If this thing picks up they'll surely start farming just for the markup of a special kind of leather.
@@GorgyCL No my point is that they are taking food waste that would be wasted in the first place and taking it and turing it i to something useful. The point of the fish leather was to recycle the fish skins and just farming it would completely ruin the point.
@@GorgyCL its not primarily a cost issue. They started this business to eliminate a waste product. If you allow for farming youll just have more of the same problem they are trying to help resolve. We dont need more mass farming. We need to utilize whats already being produced on a mass scale and prevent that waste from entering our environment.
Actually it shocked me when I found out some parts of the world do not eat fish's skin or head. The only part we don't consume is their scales-well of course their bones either, I guess. But it's good that people finally found ways to use it 😊
Actually some supplements do process the scales for the collagen for the anti-aging effect. And I have seen some fish scales fried and turned into an appetiser dish (can’t recall which show I saw this from, probably Bizarre Foods). And I’ve tried certain fish bones too (eg: unagi spine, or long braised fishes like canned fish).
You know what might really shock you? I'd estimate that half of the chicken skin in the U.S. is thrown away. Rural, poor, or Southern communities have recipes specifically for skin-on chicken, but the vast majority of chicken products sold are completely skinned. I grew up eating it, so when I started going to friend's houses and especially when I went off to college, it really surprised me to see that even on the rare occasion that folks were served skin-on chicken, most would peel it off before they ate it.
I've been buying fish leather for bookbinding for 15 years from a company in Western Australia. They make beautiful wallets, bags, purses, etc from snapper, barramundi and shark leather, all from the fishing industry in this state. It's not a new idea but I would love to see it become a much bigger industry. So much waste could become so many wonderful items. And no smell. 😄
I'm shocked to hear that fish skin is such a huge byproduct. Deep fried fish skin is an amazingly crunchy snack and I thought it was more popular than this.
@@rdizzy1 some of those companies don't clean off the residual fish fats, making it fishier than the actual fish. I clean off everything from my fish skins before I deep fry them. Some fish scales are edible too. Scales on fish like salmon, crappie, sunfish, and smelt.
The carcasses too. I used to work at a store where we filleted all the fish ourselves and we had hundreds of pounds of fish skin and carcasses. We had a marina tho that we would go to and feed all the local fish tho. Big goliath grouper. Tarpon. Snapper. Sharks. They always ate every little bit.
Fish leather isn't a thing until now because fish skins is not wasted when not used for leather. Humans can eat it, and if it's culturally not accepted (i.e. France), it can be used for pet and animal feed. It's nice that people invent new ways to use fish skins, but it's not necessarily preventing food waste.
Hello from the USA! I just wanted to say that a lot of times here in Texas most people straight up discard the fish skin. I am a fisherman and know a ton of people who actually just take the fillet and throw away the rest. Its never sat right with me because as a latino we eat all of the fish. So i think this is will solve an issue if implemented here.
I love how he said they’re failing in terms of new production methods; it shows modesty, humility, awareness, honesty, and on top of everything, it shows PROGRESS
The leather they produce with these skins is really beautiful, but i don't really see how this is an environmental boon. As other people have posted fish skins are edible, and can be turned into prepackaged food stuffs with less mechanical intervention and energy than this companies tanning process. They are also biodegrade pretty quickly, and can be easily employed as organic compost for any farm with next to no mechanical intervention. My point is there are a lot of things that can be done with fish skins that do not require the energy this company uses to process them.
At my work we cut hundreds of salmon a week. I thought it was a waste cuz I figured something like this was possible (ray fish are used as leather) and I’m glad people are finally doing this
I find this incredibly inspiring. I’ll have to let it stew in my head for awhile but this is something I could see myself doing exactly what they are doing but here in the USA. Or at least dabbling in the process somehow. I love to discover new ideas and ways to do things that 50-100 years from now will be just the way it is done. And looking back will seem silly because it has become the norm for that particular product or service.
This is a very niche market being supplied by a very niche manufactory. The market for fish leather is really really small. It's glued on to cow hide, almost exclusively, to give regular leather a fish look, meaning it is actually worse for the environment than just using beef-cow hides lmao
The whole concept of tanning is appears to very interesting on its own, and central here. It's extremely surprising to me that you can turn seemingly thin and weak fish skin into wallet leather that will undergo a lot of folding, etc.
all your videos about these sustainability projects are so important. people start understanding the idea behind the word and we humans develop for the better everyday. Thank you!
Fried fish skin's is delicious ... like a real chip's ... but the now it can put in other material's from bag's,walllet's,belt's .etc (like leather) ... just wow ...
@@fakhri21 They are pricey in every country. Ironic considering they probably pay next to nothing for their raw materials. I saw an ad recently for salmon skin they wanted $60 a pound.
wow, I am glad to see a scalable and impactful waste solution on these series as opposed to the usual "this thing costs $7k but its made of recycled stuff so you should buy it" - kind of videos
The energy going into this project is huge compared to how easily something like fish skin can readily break down in the environment and feed the soil. Arguably a much better application would be to compost the skins down to use as fertilizer. Combat waste with an actual form of restaurant trash.
Better still, eat the skins. Perfectly good food and it’s ridiculous that it’s wasted. If we want leather, the Portuguese have it nailed. They make it out of cork. It gets used in Italy to produce high quality upholstery.
These types of leathers could (hopefully will) reduce the killing of other animals like snake or aligators, plus it's taking a by-product of an existing process (fish caught and processed for food).
@@SageandStoneHomestead 'is farmed and eaten' And is under more threat. Having another way, and a cheaper way, to make this product helps protect other species.
I love seeing news stories of companies repurposing 'trash' into clean and useful products - if I were king of the world I'd look for concepts like this to spread across the world
@@fourdoorsmorehoes yea pork rinds, crackling. couple names depending on location. delicious. i recomend halitbut skin. skin the halibut, trying to remove a lot of meat as possible . then boil for 1m then place on rack in oven low fan at 150 for maybe 1-2hours u want a dry consistency. then u fry them in a fryer. and they puff right up like a huge cheeto. by boiling the skin it removes most of the fat and fishy flavour. and enjoy for a cool party snack with a dipping sauce.
Excellent video as always. I wish this company would share their technology with other companies from all over the world, that would help this planet a lot especially with our addiction to waste.
Capitalism creates the waste with a commodity obsessed culture. You have to end capitalism if you want humanity to have a shot at surviving more than a century from now. Its basic science.
The Minneapolis Institute of Art (MIA) has a new exhibit showcasing the Ainu (an indigenous people) from Japan having used fish skin to make coats and textiles going back a few hundreds of years ago. It’s a fascinating exhibit and quite unique on a national level.
A man was buying skins from us over 20years ago to make wallets/purses/bags was the nicest bloke from Egypt 🇪🇬 always brought us a gift aswell on each visit 👏
Fish biomass is also an excellent plant fertiliser, I've been using my renewable resources to provide more for me and it's pretty cheap to get high quality organic food
Its insane how much food waste there is...so thank goodness there are big brains across the globe that are trying to make use of our trash, make some money & also help mother Earth
This so exciting to watch for me, the leather looks like a snake leather which can reduce the farming of those exotic animals only for their skin, which I find unethical, plus it's reducing waste, this guy is very inspiring.
I think a lot of people are forgetting how much fish skin is used by the pet food industry as there are plenty of fish skin treats for dogs and cats that use this “waste material “.
I find this a bit misleading .It makes it sound a little bit like you can only vegetable tan fish skins .We also vegetable tan bovine hides but most chrome tanned hides are used for low quality products and not lifetime quality items like the companies that use veg tanned leather
Same here. The only fish we skinned was catfish. Larger fish were filetted, so we didn't eat that skin. But everything else was de-scaled and went into the frying pan.
@@BlackMamba-lt8oe That stuff's like sand paper! But I know it is used for leather. Back in the 1970s I had a pair of cowboy boots that were made of sharkskin. Tonly Lama Boot Co. I bought 'em at Shepler's in Wichita, Kansas. Those things lasted years longer than the combat boots Uncle Sam gave me.
I do not think (and don't know tbh) that fish skin waste is a problem that absolutely needs a solution. However as long as the environmental impact of this process isn't worse than with other leathers, I'm all for it.
Bang on , I feel like the environmental impact of researching for 3 years then building and maintaining a factory far outweighs the end product. Swapping one issue for another Imagine if they had to build another 10000 factories around the world to process fish leather, feel like that’s taking a step backward
As a person working in leather industry, fish leather is surprisingly good loking. I've seen stilettos with fish skin that it look like dragon. Really beautiful. Also, fish skin can be cooked as snacks, finger food, and also for cosmetics.
One idea for a video would be the movement to make 3d printer filament from PET bottles. One group trying to bring this to the masses is the recreator3d project. It started as one person's passion project to stop soda bottles from ending up in landfills in the USA. Now they have developed several versions of a machine that processes bottles into filament using old 3d printer parts. So it can also be used to reduce the amount of electronic waste.
Love the idea, but they seem to be underestimating the desire for veg tanned leather. For example, any sort of knife sheath or leather meant to come into regular contact with steel should be veg rather than chrome tanned. There is a lot of chrome tanned leather from a cost perspective, but they offer no solutions for the cost of leather. They would have to undercut the cow hide market in order to achieve this and while in theory I could imagine them being able to do this, practically speaking they are nowhere near that point yet. Partnerships with major canning facilities would help. I imagine they are paying a small stipend to the sushi restaurants for this service, but at a canning facility, they could offer to take over as waste management, dump the bones and keep the skin. Then if they went global and kept costs down, they could eliminate chrome tanning in a bid for environmentalism. All this being said, I’m not sure how the public would view the fish leather. That’s likely why they are trying to do the scaleless catfish leather.
90% of all leather goods made around the world are made using chrome-tanning, for a bunch of legitimate reasons. Specialty goods do exist and there is a market for them - a very expensive market at that - but to say there is a huge desire for it is kind of grandiose. Source: am a leathercrafter who loves that there is a niche and very expensive market to sell to. Want me to make you a sheath with fish skin glued on it? It'd be worse for the environment than just a regular sheath but it'll be made using restaurant waste so you can at least feel a few smuggies and tell your friends how you are saving the world when they ask about your sheath lmao
I appreciate the most that the owner said every year they are failing at aspects of growth, but keep going. Admitting when you fail is a good quality. 👍 Aeesome for them!!!
I used to sell seafood at a boutique market and I always hated when customers asked me to skin the fish. I was good at it but i would always advise them to try frying the skin it's nice and crispy, only to be met with ignorance of course. I ended up taking the skins home to feed to my dog
My dog eats leftovers fish skin without a problem. If its fried or crisply baked I will even it it myself, It's also a good source of "fish oils" omega 3 etc...
Neat idea but a ton of energy is wasted with such small amounts of hide. it would be much better for the environment to just compost the fish skin. The "soapy chemicals" they use is also known as caustic soda which sounds much worse. This chemical can also be used on cowhide instead of more toxic ones. They say they are keeping it out of landfills..... what do you do with your old worn out leather purse or wallet.... landfill.
So instead of using fish hide leather, we use other type of leather that goes to landfill, and the fish hide goes to landfill... That's two times the amount of hide going to landfill
All leather could fight restaurant waste for beef, pork, goat, sheep, and other major food industries as well..... who would have thought. Glad people figured out how to use fish leather again, they used to do it for shoes during ww2 and the great depression as well. Edit: Vegetable based tanning is a thing for other types of leather as well.... its called veg tan. Makes the leather harder, but better for things like armor, shoe bottoms, masks, and other arts and crafts uses.
@@BlackMamba-lt8oe Not if you buy the leather as is and make something with it. I go to the leather store and its real. Fake stuff is pressed leather and you can tell from just feeling it. Fabrics are the same way... can't fool the touch of the real stuff.
@Black Mamba .... not a bro by the way just a lady who is a master level cosplayer who has worked with leather and fabric long enough to know these things..... If you get your two fingers and literally feel it between your fingers back and forth top to bottom, smell the leather for that undenyable leather smell from the tanning process chemicals/veg tanning, give it a little stretch to see how it reacts, as well as look at it at the side profile and underside you will be able to tell fake from real... this includes bonded leather. check for the natural ways it stretches along the armpit areas vs other parts.... yes leather stretches differently depending on where it is located on the animal. If it is fake it will always stretch the same no matter which direction/location you pull from if you are buying full or half of an animal. Higher quality leathers are usually smaller and more uniform making it slightly more tricky to see this, but there are still the same indicators. If you know how leather feels, looks, and behaves when manipulated you will not be fooled. You cannot fully fake leather no matter if parts of it are real and parts are not. Anyone with experience with real 100% leather for a long time will know this.... Fake leather reacts differently than real leather no matter how close they try to imitate it, it will not act like true leather under certain circumstances. If you know these things you can spot a fake. Sorry your shopkeepers are doing that where you live, but where I live that's not the case.
This seem to be a good idea! Not only will fish leather be a good material for many things, but it will also help reduce fish waste! I hope more people around the world get to do this!
It would be similar to the decomposition of other leathers. That is to say that it would be better for the environment than things like vegan leathers- a.k.a. plastic and synthetic materials but not as good as something like wool or untreated cotton. Edited for spelling
What about crispy salmon skin rolls? This is not a “green solution”, the amount of chemicals and energy used may be “green” in comparison to leather; but the green solution would be to make fashionable textile wallets and to make fish skin delicious so it’s not wasted (not hard).
I've had the opportunity to work with salmon leather and I absolutely hated it. It's not a tough/strong leather it's rather fragile and the end product doesn't last as long as traditional leathers or exotic leathers. Fish skin waste should be used for something more suited for it like fertilizer.
As a seamstress who keeps up with every new "leather" on the market only to see that there's plastic in *some* part of the production process (fruit leather, mushroom leather, pretty much literally all of the other ones featured on this channel) I was *very* pleasantly surprised about the fact that they're actually not bs'ing that it's an "ecologically responsible product." I wonder if they send samples out for small businesses to work with/experiment with?
It wasn't mentioned in the video at all, but I wonder if the Ictyos people were inspired by the Ainu people of Hokkaido at all. Since they have a tradition of making clothing from fish leather.
We need resin coating…? Is it necessary? Could there be another alternative of using plastic to coat the fish skin, and stick to the initial mission of protecting the environment? Hope there comes a breakthrough!
I live in SC and there are a lot of deer processing companies that will skin the deer and process the deer meat into deer hamburger and stuff like that, but the ones I've seen just throw away the hides. I've thought many times that someone could make a business out of using them to make clothes and other products, instead of letting it waste. There are similar places all around the country, and probably in other countries too.
I have a lot of Dakota and Sioux friends that we give cleaned deer skins to. We, my family, probably give away 20-30 deer hides a year during hunting season. I've thought about tanning, but I realized I'm too lazy.
I'm convinced that the big investors and analysts are trying to scare us to keep us poor and ignorant to the market.. because its steady doing good after all the jobless and market crash talks
I'm a little confused wouldn't there be better ways to use the waste? Such as composting and such? Turning it into leather just eventually turns it into more garbage when it's overused no?
I don't know, man. I've been to traditional tanneries and they're awful. Ictyos' facilities seem way cleaner and I'd take fish smell over boiled hides and chemical fumes every day of the week
Lol, this argument against cow leather was so weak... so yeah... people mostly use toxic stuff in manufacturing of cow leather... the same toxic stuff that could be used here with fish leather but owners decided to use plant based, non-toxic stuff that was also used in cow leather manufacturing for thousands of years...
Its funny how supermodels and big personalities condemn the use of animal leather because of the cruelty that it imposes on animals. Yet its completely acceptable and fine to use fish skin as means of a new leather like as though this is not harming any living things in order to make it. Wow!
I think we need to keep killing animals to make leather. It's a reminder that we are part of the ecosystem - not apart of it. We are as prey as we are predators. Animal welfare movements are just arrogance of man thinking of superiority over anomals. Kill with respect but kill nevertheless.
@@musicalmogul6740 Yes. Evolutionary speaking, we are neither the most successful or the most numerous at this very moment in time. Neither are we the most long lasting yet. We aren't the youngest species on the planet but we aren't one of the oldest either.
While I absolutely love this no-waste process this company has developed, I’m somewhat troubled by the implications that much of the product’s focus is towards the creation of “luxury” goods. This of course has its benefits, potentially reducing the purchasing and harvesting of snake and alligator/crocodile skins, which is threatening the status of important species. However, the problem many sustainable and waste reduction brands is the pricing. It is more than understandable that the process of creating and utilizing reclaimed or waste products requires more expensive processes, but the global crisis of waste has been a product of the preference of non-reusable goods as a cheaper, and more convenient alternative. Not many people can afford to import a wallet or other goods made of fish skin leather that exceed the price of standard cow leather items, so while as amazing as this is, it has a long way to go to become more universally sustainable.
Imagine,, spicy fired skin with Beers,, dammm.. With vodka, dammm,, with whisky and friends,, dammm. Sitting by the river side,, dammmm. Why were I not born in that part of the world..
I saw in an article about a museum that had a child's coat made of fish skins from a Japanese island centuries ago. I thought it was so cool, I'd like to see some of these products.
What happens at the fish skin's product end-of-life? With them being treated, does this cause issues with the natural breakdown of the skin? If not, how does this really keep fish out of our landfills longterm? Its good to find new uses for refuse, but nothing was covered on the potential impacts of this new product. It could end up in waste sites again to release more methane or cause other problems, but now with fashion. Could we get a few extra answers for the viability of this company and their products?
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I wish America would apply more thinking like this. We waste so much in our current society and it’s completely unnecessary. Bravo for the forward thinking.
I feel as if there are a lot of selective truths here but aside from that I literally have fried fish skin that I bought from the store and I’m pretty sure it took a lot less development, time, new infrastructure, and social changes to accept this new thing but it still fights restaurant waste to a similar extent I can assure that because there’s no way a company would turn a blind eye to saving some money and looking good at the same time by taking food wastes from restaurants and turning them into profit. Not saying it’s completely useless or terrible to do, it just feels really off to frame it like it’s the next new revolutionary, game changing, best way to do it thing
The natives of the North Pacific have been doing this for hundreds of years. Nobody thought to ask them? I've been passing their story around for years, but nobody was interested. At least you picked the idea up finally.
I have always said "knowledge is the best form to grow, but it also throws more understanding to each and every step" now I just think that we should appreciate every moment in time, memory's are priceless and time is all any if us have, if we provide the next generation with more knowledge than that know what to do with it, how can they bring the beat out in us with that said
It's pretty thin so I imagine that it would make for a more affordable velum, provided you had the right adhesives to splice pieces together or if you used it to make a very small or fish-shaped book.
Unless they can seriously automate most of this process to have basically no human workers involved I just don't see this becoming a widely used form of leather. Its more of a niche market for people who want to feel good but its actual uses are extremely limited due to how thin fish skins are when compared to conventional leather.
Well yeah, right now it looks like a great alternative for exotic skins like snake and crocodile, which was even mentioned in the video. But you know, at first there was no automated process for making cow leather as well 🙂 It might be a question of more time, investment, and development. But even as a niche it is beneficial, as I said it’s a nice, more affordable and ethical replacement for scale-patterned exotic skins.
wouldn't it be more efficient just to use the skin as a fertilizer instead? I get that it's reducing food waste but the process of doing this seems to create more waste, i mean look at all the chemical used and what's being dumped into the drain/sewage system. I bet this is counter-intuitive process.
@@mezanian no thxs. it wouldn't matter to me at this point. the fact is there is a lot of energy and chemical used in the transformation, and this alone turned me off. lol.
@@Steven-xf8mz i don't think people understand the point of reducing waste is not to make more wasted like using chemical and water to make a bullshit product. there many thing they could do with these fish waste like making fish food/ fish bait by blending it up into a paste or composing it.
Back in 2000, it was a well known fact that Hermès had set up a collecting service to pick up as many salmon skins from food markets and restaurants to use on their luxury items such as belts, hand bags, wallets , wrist watch ties and so on. It's been going on for ages.
A nice crispy pan-seared fish skin is the tastiest part of the fish. It's also full of essential fatty acids. I couldn't imagine throwing out the skin.
Chromium tanning is not in any relation with source of skin, it's just cheaper, and produced leather is more durable. You can buy veg tanned cow leather with no problem, but it is more expensive.
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I think I speak for a lot of us consumers (not all) when I say we only care somewhat about climate change or don't care at all. I can see environmental pollution as a bigger issue, but knowing a product I'm buying is "100% recycled" doesn't make me want to buy it any more (makes me less likely to with food packaging). I wouldn't want to buy something just to feel like I'm "helping the environment" but compromising on what I'm actually looking for with the product and paying higher prices. The best outcome would be for businesses to maintain or improve the quality and prices of their items, while also finding newer ways to promote environmental sustainability. That way consumers won't have to settle for less and would demand more environmentally-safe alternatives.
If you don't stop killing life , life will kill you all
We eat fish skins where I live so it's a minor shock that edible parts only get thrown in the bin. Still, this is a nice idea and I hope they'd be able continue doing it.
Where?
@@iamandrewj most of Asian countries it’s edible so why waste it even some western countries don’t ate fish head
A lot of fish skins are not enjoyable or edible, some are
@@ag4103 Salmon skin is enjoyable after being fried though. Considering that is what makes up the majority of Ictyos' raw materials, it is such a sad waste of a food source, especially before this whole fish leather business began.
You should make a business. Fry the leftover skin. It's a popular snack in Easter part of asia
I'd be a careful how you compare the impact of cowhide leather to fish leather development. There are companies that tan cowhide almost exactly the same way using vegetable tanning, no chromium, and treating their wastewater. Plus, cowhide too can be a byproduct of the food industry. Many vegetable tanning cowhide companies have left developed countries due to nearby residents confusing them with chromium tanneries. Developing countries with relaxed environmental laws then have an opportunity to replace that supply with cheap chromium-tanned leather, which is being described in this video as undesirable.
The environmental-caucious methods you describe is not unique to fish leather. It is the company that is choosing this approach.
Exactly what i was thinking! Their choosing to make this New idea seem revolutionary and genius, when in fact its just another way of manufacturing, and by the looks of the size of fish skin, it probably takes even more time, effort and machines/chemicals than regular cow hide
@@alexsyld5410 that's how most of these "environmentalist" companies work
Chrome tanned leather is really nice shit, but it's certainly not the only type of leather there is, in fact I'm not even sure if it's the most common type considering how many other processes and types of leather there are on the market.
Yes, the comparison he made was completely stupid.
Yep, seemed kind of suspicious to me that the ecological benefits were basically limited to choice of tanning agents and dyes, along keeping a small amount of methane out of the atmosphere from skin decomposition. By no means is this a bad thing, but they're really overselling the environmental aspect of fish skins while disparaging cow leather for reasons that have nothing to do with the source animal
I love that he said “each year we are failing to develop new skins” that’s so humble and realistic. This is a phenomenal idea and I’m excited to see where this new product goes. As long as it remains sourced as a byproduct and not farmed for skin then I’m all for it. Gave up leather a long time ago, though I still love the look. This might be a great solution
Yeah I smiled when he said that... failure is completely normal and part of any good development process, so good on him for embracing it and for trying again after each failure until he gets what he's looking for.
He said “new solutions”
I all in reusing waste byproduct but, why don't they make dishes using the skin???
Nothing new about fish skin leathers. Historically very common.
As long as we continue a commodity obsessed society products like this are not the solution. Fish leather cuts down on waste, but it does nothing to prevent overfishing and will increase the demand for fishing.
Korean and Japanese entrepreneurs have already started converting fisk skins in an edible food product - fish skin potato chips. It's actually very tasty, and comes in a variety of flavors. Only issue is - it does have a distinct fishey after taste which may prevent this product from taking off into the mainstream consumership.
There are also fish skin snacks in many Asian countries
Wait how can it be "potato chip" if its made from fish skin?
@@imaginefinding the shape of it is reminiscent of potato chips but yeah it’s just fish skin
What do you mean it’s merely tasty? It’s HEAVENLY!!! Especially spicy salted egg fish skins! 🤤🤤🤤
White people are spoiled with boneless and skinless meats like it’s not a waste
I love the fact that even after they get the skins they still pick off the scraps and give to a company to make fertilizer. Just goes to show that EVERY part of the animal can be used for something.
@RUclips Commenter In the documentary they clearly say it's used for sushi.
@RUclips Commenter Troll fail.
It is already fertiliser,they are wasting energy on transport and manufacture to sell it more easily- sickening
@RUclips Commenter exactly what you said, they got it from a sushi shop. The main conditions of them processing the fish skins is that the skins must came from a place where the meat is consime, not from a place where people specifically bred the fish for leather.
Yeah except the fishes are acooped from the bottom of the ocean by factory-ships, which dump back up to 90% (ninety!!) of the animals they catch back in the ocean, mostly dead after sorting. It's this a good thing? Do you know there will be no more fish in like 2050 if we continue like this? Stop eating industrial fish from the ocean for starters
I like fish skins especially the salmon ones cause I grew up eating them. They're great fried or grilled, even on a whole steamed fish once the skin is descaled. So it did feel a bit of a waste that it is not a worldwide practice, but glad that they're still making use of it for other things
I used to work at a grocery store that had a sushi guy, he used to throw away the salmon skins untill he started giving them to me. I used to eat fried salmon skin as regular lunch, its one of the things I miss most from that job lol.
Love the carp fish leather
this is the first thing i thought of, fried salmon skin is fantastic, especially as a side to rice
Yeah, it's a common practice here in Brazil to eat fried fish skins as a side dish in sushi restaurants. I thought it was more common worldwide. Btw, I aways grill salmon steaks with skin.
In Thailand, we have a snack from fish's skin, fried, ... very matched with a good beer.
The dedication to ensuring they dont receive skins from farming but rather from food waste only. Love the use of every part
As pointless as bioplastics. if they farmed them they would definitely use the meat for something (cat food for example). They only use food waste because it's cheaper for them.
@@GorgyCL You're missing the point because the point of the fish leather was to take food waste that would be just thrown away, and turn it into something useful. They make sure the place that they're taking from isnt just farming hides so that food waste doesnt go to waste.
@@Macc985 Again, it wouldn't go to waste if farmed. If this thing picks up they'll surely start farming just for the markup of a special kind of leather.
@@GorgyCL No my point is that they are taking food waste that would be wasted in the first place and taking it and turing it i to something useful. The point of the fish leather was to recycle the fish skins and just farming it would completely ruin the point.
@@GorgyCL its not primarily a cost issue. They started this business to eliminate a waste product. If you allow for farming youll just have more of the same problem they are trying to help resolve. We dont need more mass farming. We need to utilize whats already being produced on a mass scale and prevent that waste from entering our environment.
Actually it shocked me when I found out some parts of the world do not eat fish's skin or head. The only part we don't consume is their scales-well of course their bones either, I guess.
But it's good that people finally found ways to use it 😊
Actually some supplements do process the scales for the collagen for the anti-aging effect. And I have seen some fish scales fried and turned into an appetiser dish (can’t recall which show I saw this from, probably Bizarre Foods). And I’ve tried certain fish bones too (eg: unagi spine, or long braised fishes like canned fish).
You know what might really shock you? I'd estimate that half of the chicken skin in the U.S. is thrown away.
Rural, poor, or Southern communities have recipes specifically for skin-on chicken, but the vast majority of chicken products sold are completely skinned.
I grew up eating it, so when I started going to friend's houses and especially when I went off to college, it really surprised me to see that even on the rare occasion that folks were served skin-on chicken, most would peel it off before they ate it.
You eat the gills?
@@lynbabysusu "anti-aging" is bullshit tho
@@RochelleHasTooManyHobbies I mean, typically it's just rubbery nothing-calories, and it rarely if ever seems even edible
I've been buying fish leather for bookbinding for 15 years from a company in Western Australia. They make beautiful wallets, bags, purses, etc from snapper, barramundi and shark leather, all from the fishing industry in this state. It's not a new idea but I would love to see it become a much bigger industry. So much waste could become so many wonderful items. And no smell. 😄
Company name? Do they sell this products online? It is wesome this exists.
The larger size makes more sense.
What company is this? I'm Aussie too and would love to support that WA company
Do you sell?
sounds like my wild barramundi leather wallet iv used daily for 10 years. the barramundi is caught by my mate froggy up in the Kimberley
I love these sorts of stories where nothing is wasted. It’s the efficiency of these concepts that excites me.
The carp skin leather is just beautiful I believe the whole process is very interesting.
That would solve the Asian carp invasive fish in the us
Will it still smell like fish though 🤔 😂
I'm shocked to hear that fish skin is such a huge byproduct. Deep fried fish skin is an amazingly crunchy snack and I thought it was more popular than this.
Eh, I find it to be even fishier than the original fish it came from, the brands I have had at least, too fishy for me, makes me gag.
Great snack with cold beer
@@rdizzy1 some of those companies don't clean off the residual fish fats, making it fishier than the actual fish. I clean off everything from my fish skins before I deep fry them. Some fish scales are edible too. Scales on fish like salmon, crappie, sunfish, and smelt.
The carcasses too. I used to work at a store where we filleted all the fish ourselves and we had hundreds of pounds of fish skin and carcasses. We had a marina tho that we would go to and feed all the local fish tho. Big goliath grouper. Tarpon. Snapper. Sharks. They always ate every little bit.
If you don't stop killing life , life will kill you all
Fish leather isn't a thing until now because fish skins is not wasted when not used for leather.
Humans can eat it, and if it's culturally not accepted (i.e. France), it can be used for pet and animal feed.
It's nice that people invent new ways to use fish skins, but it's not necessarily preventing food waste.
Yeah I mean throwing out fish skin doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me. These guys found a good way to make money though!
We used it for shoes etc. During the second WW, in Denmark, Germany took all our cow hides.
@@gertbamse1 Bastards.
Hello from the USA! I just wanted to say that a lot of times here in Texas most people straight up discard the fish skin. I am a fisherman and know a ton of people who actually just take the fillet and throw away the rest. Its never sat right with me because as a latino we eat all of the fish. So i think this is will solve an issue if implemented here.
Fish leather has been a thing since humans.
I love how he said they’re failing in terms of new production methods; it shows modesty, humility, awareness, honesty, and on top of everything, it shows PROGRESS
The leather they produce with these skins is really beautiful, but i don't really see how this is an environmental boon. As other people have posted fish skins are edible, and can be turned into prepackaged food stuffs with less mechanical intervention and energy than this companies tanning process. They are also biodegrade pretty quickly, and can be easily employed as organic compost for any farm with next to no mechanical intervention. My point is there are a lot of things that can be done with fish skins that do not require the energy this company uses to process them.
At my work we cut hundreds of salmon a week. I thought it was a waste cuz I figured something like this was possible (ray fish are used as leather) and I’m glad people are finally doing this
Ask your local dog rescue if they want them! We get byproduct from our local butcher and other places and our dogs love it.
If you don't stop killing life , life will kill you all
I find this incredibly inspiring. I’ll have to let it stew in my head for awhile but this is something I could see myself doing exactly what they are doing but here in the USA. Or at least dabbling in the process somehow. I love to discover new ideas and ways to do things that 50-100 years from now will be just the way it is done. And looking back will seem silly because it has become the norm for that particular product or service.
This is a very niche market being supplied by a very niche manufactory.
The market for fish leather is really really small. It's glued on to cow hide, almost exclusively, to give regular leather a fish look, meaning it is actually worse for the environment than just using beef-cow hides lmao
@@grarglejobber7941: I found it inspiring. Let me be inspired.
If you don't stop killing life , life will kill you all
The whole concept of tanning is appears to very interesting on its own, and central here. It's extremely surprising to me that you can turn seemingly thin and weak fish skin into wallet leather that will undergo a lot of folding, etc.
It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.
Didn't you ever hear of eel skin wallets?
Probably backed with something a bit tougher... as a crafter, all I can see are inlays, overlays, a new hatband, etc...
Youve never fished have you? Fish skin is by no means thin and weak....
@@eftheusempire Compared to cow hides, they are very thin and weak.
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Fried fish skin's is delicious ... like a real chip's ... but the now it can put in other material's from bag's,walllet's,belt's .etc (like leather) ... just wow ...
yep, snacks using salmon skin are a bit pricy in my country. not a waste at all
The skin is the best bit of a well cooked piece of fish.
@@fakhri21 They are pricey in every country. Ironic considering they probably pay next to nothing for their raw materials. I saw an ad recently for salmon skin they wanted $60 a pound.
Same
It's crazy how a sushi restaurant doesn't have the idea to just deep fry the skin into chips and serve it as another dish. Lack of vision.
@@Oooo-bi7bi ikr (i know right) it's really good 😉
I just love how everything is Reused and theres basically no waste. It really is Brilliant
wow, I am glad to see a scalable and impactful waste solution on these series as opposed to the usual "this thing costs $7k but its made of recycled stuff so you should buy it" - kind of videos
hahaha get it? scalable? scales? ahaha
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The energy going into this project is huge compared to how easily something like fish skin can readily break down in the environment and feed the soil. Arguably a much better application would be to compost the skins down to use as fertilizer. Combat waste with an actual form of restaurant trash.
Better still, eat the skins. Perfectly good food and it’s ridiculous that it’s wasted. If we want leather, the Portuguese have it nailed. They make it out of cork. It gets used in Italy to produce high quality upholstery.
@@CitizenAyellowblue yes I didn't realise until today that it could be eaten (and enjoyed)!
These types of leathers could (hopefully will) reduce the killing of other animals like snake or aligators, plus it's taking a by-product of an existing process (fish caught and processed for food).
@@Tao_Tology Gator is farmed and eaten just like the fish. The snake I don't know about.
@@SageandStoneHomestead 'is farmed and eaten'
And is under more threat.
Having another way, and a cheaper way, to make this product helps protect other species.
Looks amazing, plus very good they use plant based materials instead of toxic chemicals.
I love seeing news stories of companies repurposing 'trash' into clean and useful products - if I were king of the world I'd look for concepts like this to spread across the world
the earth doesn’t let it go to waste. It’ll decay and decompose and soil will use the nutrients for life
Once on vacation in Thailand purchased salmon skin deep fried in a bag (like chips). It tasted very good and pretty inexpensive.
yeah u can do the same with pork skin (chicharon)
@@Pacman2403 yeah i think it's called pork rinds in USA? we have it in Scandinavia as well
@@Pacman2403 mhm chicharon is very delicious I dip it in vinegar yum
@@fourdoorsmorehoes yea pork rinds, crackling. couple names depending on location. delicious. i recomend halitbut skin. skin the halibut, trying to remove a lot of meat as possible . then boil for 1m then place on rack in oven low fan at 150 for maybe 1-2hours u want a dry consistency. then u fry them in a fryer. and they puff right up like a huge cheeto. by boiling the skin it removes most of the fat and fishy flavour. and enjoy for a cool party snack with a dipping sauce.
Fish skins at larger commercial operations are ground up with the bones and sold as fertilizer.
Excellent video as always. I wish this company would share their technology with other companies from all over the world, that would help this planet a lot especially with our addiction to waste.
Capitalism creates the waste with a commodity obsessed culture. You have to end capitalism if you want humanity to have a shot at surviving more than a century from now. Its basic science.
The Minneapolis Institute of Art (MIA) has a new exhibit showcasing the Ainu (an indigenous people) from Japan having used fish skin to make coats and textiles going back a few hundreds of years ago. It’s a fascinating exhibit and quite unique on a national level.
Few years ago my dad bought me eel skin wallet from Korea. It was really soft.
A man was buying skins from us over 20years ago to make wallets/purses/bags was the nicest bloke from Egypt 🇪🇬 always brought us a gift aswell on each visit 👏
Fish biomass is also an excellent plant fertiliser, I've been using my renewable resources to provide more for me and it's pretty cheap to get high quality organic food
not only was it a great idea but WOW those leathers are BEAUTIFUL.
Its insane how much food waste there is...so thank goodness there are big brains across the globe that are trying to make use of our trash, make some money & also help mother Earth
This so exciting to watch for me, the leather looks like a snake leather which can reduce the farming of those exotic animals only for their skin, which I find unethical, plus it's reducing waste, this guy is very inspiring.
There is a lot of snake in my country, we don’t mind you take it 😂😂
Snake with human head
Both fish leather and snake leather are worse for the environment than beef-cow leather.
In Southeast Asia only the bones, scales, and some parts of the guts will become the leftover.
This is on of the many innovations we must create, to conserve our planet's resources Bravo!
I think a lot of people are forgetting how much fish skin is used by the pet food industry as there are plenty of fish skin treats for dogs and cats that use this “waste material “.
People throw fish skins away?! Clearly they don't know nothing about good seafood.
Not all fish skins tatse good but salmon skin is yum yes
This whole process seems a little fishy to me
I find this a bit misleading .It makes it sound a little bit like you can only vegetable tan fish skins .We also vegetable tan bovine hides but most chrome tanned hides are used for low quality products and not lifetime quality items like the companies that use veg tanned leather
Grew up in a place where no one even think of skinning the fish. We eat the whole thing 🤙
Same here. The only fish we skinned was catfish. Larger fish were filetted, so we didn't eat that skin. But everything else was de-scaled and went into the frying pan.
@@yepiratesworkshop7997 😅😅😅😅 i eat even the shark skin,
@@BlackMamba-lt8oe That stuff's like sand paper! But I know it is used for leather. Back in the 1970s I had a pair of cowboy boots that were made of sharkskin. Tonly Lama Boot Co. I bought 'em at Shepler's in Wichita, Kansas. Those things lasted years longer than the combat boots Uncle Sam gave me.
@@yepiratesworkshop7997 yes bro sand paper 😅😅😅😅
Amazing execution of a great idea where if every company acted like this the world would be a better place.
I do not think (and don't know tbh) that fish skin waste is a problem that absolutely needs a solution.
However as long as the environmental impact of this process isn't worse than with other leathers, I'm all for it.
Bang on , I feel like the environmental impact of researching for 3 years then building and maintaining a factory far outweighs the end product. Swapping one issue for another
Imagine if they had to build another 10000 factories around the world to process fish leather, feel like that’s taking a step backward
As a person working in leather industry, fish leather is surprisingly good loking. I've seen stilettos with fish skin that it look like dragon. Really beautiful.
Also, fish skin can be cooked as snacks, finger food, and also for cosmetics.
One idea for a video would be the movement to make 3d printer filament from PET bottles. One group trying to bring this to the masses is the recreator3d project.
It started as one person's passion project to stop soda bottles from ending up in landfills in the USA. Now they have developed several versions of a machine that processes bottles into filament using old 3d printer parts. So it can also be used to reduce the amount of electronic waste.
That leather looks so freaking cool. Imagine having a back pack made from it, it would look insanely cool
Love the idea, but they seem to be underestimating the desire for veg tanned leather. For example, any sort of knife sheath or leather meant to come into regular contact with steel should be veg rather than chrome tanned. There is a lot of chrome tanned leather from a cost perspective, but they offer no solutions for the cost of leather. They would have to undercut the cow hide market in order to achieve this and while in theory I could imagine them being able to do this, practically speaking they are nowhere near that point yet. Partnerships with major canning facilities would help. I imagine they are paying a small stipend to the sushi restaurants for this service, but at a canning facility, they could offer to take over as waste management, dump the bones and keep the skin. Then if they went global and kept costs down, they could eliminate chrome tanning in a bid for environmentalism. All this being said, I’m not sure how the public would view the fish leather. That’s likely why they are trying to do the scaleless catfish leather.
90% of all leather goods made around the world are made using chrome-tanning, for a bunch of legitimate reasons. Specialty goods do exist and there is a market for them - a very expensive market at that - but to say there is a huge desire for it is kind of grandiose.
Source: am a leathercrafter who loves that there is a niche and very expensive market to sell to. Want me to make you a sheath with fish skin glued on it? It'd be worse for the environment than just a regular sheath but it'll be made using restaurant waste so you can at least feel a few smuggies and tell your friends how you are saving the world when they ask about your sheath lmao
I appreciate the most that the owner said every year they are failing at aspects of growth, but keep going. Admitting when you fail is a good quality. 👍 Aeesome for them!!!
I used to sell seafood at a boutique market and I always hated when customers asked me to skin the fish. I was good at it but i would always advise them to try frying the skin it's nice and crispy, only to be met with ignorance of course. I ended up taking the skins home to feed to my dog
My dog eats leftovers fish skin without a problem. If its fried or crisply baked I will even it it myself, It's also a good source of "fish oils" omega 3 etc...
Mmmmm fried salmon🤤
Neat idea but a ton of energy is wasted with such small amounts of hide. it would be much better for the environment to just compost the fish skin. The "soapy chemicals" they use is also known as caustic soda which sounds much worse. This chemical can also be used on cowhide instead of more toxic ones. They say they are keeping it out of landfills..... what do you do with your old worn out leather purse or wallet.... landfill.
So instead of using fish hide leather, we use other type of leather that goes to landfill, and the fish hide goes to landfill...
That's two times the amount of hide going to landfill
All leather could fight restaurant waste for beef, pork, goat, sheep, and other major food industries as well..... who would have thought. Glad people figured out how to use fish leather again, they used to do it for shoes during ww2 and the great depression as well.
Edit: Vegetable based tanning is a thing for other types of leather as well.... its called veg tan. Makes the leather harder, but better for things like armor, shoe bottoms, masks, and other arts and crafts uses.
now adays u dont get leather, they sell faux leather and say its real leather
@@BlackMamba-lt8oe Not if you buy the leather as is and make something with it. I go to the leather store and its real. Fake stuff is pressed leather and you can tell from just feeling it. Fabrics are the same way... can't fool the touch of the real stuff.
@@ShiningSakura yes bro but shopkeeper are using fake. leather and claming its real leather.
@Black Mamba .... not a bro by the way just a lady who is a master level cosplayer who has worked with leather and fabric long enough to know these things.....
If you get your two fingers and literally feel it between your fingers back and forth top to bottom, smell the leather for that undenyable leather smell from the tanning process chemicals/veg tanning, give it a little stretch to see how it reacts, as well as look at it at the side profile and underside you will be able to tell fake from real... this includes bonded leather. check for the natural ways it stretches along the armpit areas vs other parts.... yes leather stretches differently depending on where it is located on the animal. If it is fake it will always stretch the same no matter which direction/location you pull from if you are buying full or half of an animal. Higher quality leathers are usually smaller and more uniform making it slightly more tricky to see this, but there are still the same indicators. If you know how leather feels, looks, and behaves when manipulated you will not be fooled.
You cannot fully fake leather no matter if parts of it are real and parts are not. Anyone with experience with real 100% leather for a long time will know this.... Fake leather reacts differently than real leather no matter how close they try to imitate it, it will not act like true leather under certain circumstances. If you know these things you can spot a fake.
Sorry your shopkeepers are doing that where you live, but where I live that's not the case.
This seem to be a good idea! Not only will fish leather be a good material for many things, but it will also help reduce fish waste! I hope more people around the world get to do this!
Okay but what happens when the leather eventually gets worn out and thrown away? Has the decomposition of tanned fish skin been studied?
It would be similar to the decomposition of other leathers. That is to say that it would be better for the environment than things like vegan leathers- a.k.a. plastic and synthetic materials but not as good as something like wool or untreated cotton.
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What about crispy salmon skin rolls?
This is not a “green solution”, the amount of chemicals and energy used may be “green” in comparison to leather; but the green solution would be to make fashionable textile wallets and to make fish skin delicious so it’s not wasted (not hard).
i never eve thought that fish skin could be processed into such a work of art, this certainly adda to my insight into new things
I've had the opportunity to work with salmon leather and I absolutely hated it. It's not a tough/strong leather it's rather fragile and the end product doesn't last as long as traditional leathers or exotic leathers. Fish skin waste should be used for something more suited for it like fertilizer.
As a seamstress who keeps up with every new "leather" on the market only to see that there's plastic in *some* part of the production process (fruit leather, mushroom leather, pretty much literally all of the other ones featured on this channel) I was *very* pleasantly surprised about the fact that they're actually not bs'ing that it's an "ecologically responsible product." I wonder if they send samples out for small businesses to work with/experiment with?
It wasn't mentioned in the video at all, but I wonder if the Ictyos people were inspired by the Ainu people of Hokkaido at all. Since they have a tradition of making clothing from fish leather.
So cool to see businesses giving products to each other to make the most use
We need resin coating…? Is it necessary? Could there be another alternative of using plastic to coat the fish skin, and stick to the initial mission of protecting the environment? Hope there comes a breakthrough!
I live in SC and there are a lot of deer processing companies that will skin the deer and process the deer meat into deer hamburger and stuff like that, but the ones I've seen just throw away the hides. I've thought many times that someone could make a business out of using them to make clothes and other products, instead of letting it waste. There are similar places all around the country, and probably in other countries too.
I have a lot of Dakota and Sioux friends that we give cleaned deer skins to. We, my family, probably give away 20-30 deer hides a year during hunting season. I've thought about tanning, but I realized I'm too lazy.
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I'm a little confused wouldn't there be better ways to use the waste? Such as composting and such? Turning it into leather just eventually turns it into more garbage when it's overused no?
Imagine the smells in that factory haha :o
I don't know, man. I've been to traditional tanneries and they're awful. Ictyos' facilities seem way cleaner and I'd take fish smell over boiled hides and chemical fumes every day of the week
Imagine if a buss full of blind lesbians crashed into that place. It'd be total mass confusion.
still better than ladies in their periods 😅😅😅😅, smell like blue cheese
15+ years ago in Costa Rica I was getting awesome leather products a man made from Tilapia fish skins. Dyed in different colors. Very durable.
Lol, this argument against cow leather was so weak... so yeah... people mostly use toxic stuff in manufacturing of cow leather... the same toxic stuff that could be used here with fish leather but owners decided to use plant based, non-toxic stuff that was also used in cow leather manufacturing for thousands of years...
Its funny how supermodels and big personalities condemn the use of animal leather because of the cruelty that it imposes on animals. Yet its completely acceptable and fine to use fish skin as means of a new leather like as though this is not harming any living things in order to make it. Wow!
I think we need to keep killing animals to make leather.
It's a reminder that we are part of the ecosystem - not apart of it.
We are as prey as we are predators.
Animal welfare movements are just arrogance of man thinking of superiority over anomals.
Kill with respect but kill nevertheless.
@@carlosandleon Are you denying mans superiority over animals? Cause it seems like that aspect is up for contention here.
@@musicalmogul6740 Yes. Evolutionary speaking, we are neither the most successful or the most numerous at this very moment in time. Neither are we the most long lasting yet.
We aren't the youngest species on the planet but we aren't one of the oldest either.
Isn't fish skin also used as skin grafts for burn victims?
Yes!
This whole series makes me happy. I would definitely buy things made of this!
While I absolutely love this no-waste process this company has developed, I’m somewhat troubled by the implications that much of the product’s focus is towards the creation of “luxury” goods. This of course has its benefits, potentially reducing the purchasing and harvesting of snake and alligator/crocodile skins, which is threatening the status of important species. However, the problem many sustainable and waste reduction brands is the pricing. It is more than understandable that the process of creating and utilizing reclaimed or waste products requires more expensive processes, but the global crisis of waste has been a product of the preference of non-reusable goods as a cheaper, and more convenient alternative. Not many people can afford to import a wallet or other goods made of fish skin leather that exceed the price of standard cow leather items, so while as amazing as this is, it has a long way to go to become more universally sustainable.
Fish leather is beautiful! It's extremely strong and has a beautiful natural pattern. It's lovely to work with.
Something fishy going on here.. 😏
vegana smells like blue cheese
I have used it...smells like leather, handles like luxury leather.... IT IS NICE!
Oh fck.. Why you people don't eat fish skin?.. Oh come on..
If it’s fried I think it is the most tasty part.
If I live there, I would have open Fish Skin Restaurant.. 😁😁Its free material.
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Imagine,, spicy fired skin with Beers,, dammm.. With vodka, dammm,, with whisky and friends,, dammm. Sitting by the river side,, dammmm. Why were I not born in that part of the world..
I saw in an article about a museum that had a child's coat made of fish skins from a Japanese island centuries ago. I thought it was so cool, I'd like to see some of these products.
What happens at the fish skin's product end-of-life? With them being treated, does this cause issues with the natural breakdown of the skin? If not, how does this really keep fish out of our landfills longterm? Its good to find new uses for refuse, but nothing was covered on the potential impacts of this new product. It could end up in waste sites again to release more methane or cause other problems, but now with fashion. Could we get a few extra answers for the viability of this company and their products?
what a great team - and I appreciate their honesty about the development of the process. Love the little clamps too
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I wish America would apply more thinking like this. We waste so much in our current society and it’s completely unnecessary. Bravo for the forward thinking.
My mom is an artisan and she has been working with fish leather for decades now, and I help with that too
This looks like a great idea! And they look so ethical!! Big kudos for them!
I feel as if there are a lot of selective truths here but aside from that I literally have fried fish skin that I bought from the store and I’m pretty sure it took a lot less development, time, new infrastructure, and social changes to accept this new thing but it still fights restaurant waste to a similar extent I can assure that because there’s no way a company would turn a blind eye to saving some money and looking good at the same time by taking food wastes from restaurants and turning them into profit. Not saying it’s completely useless or terrible to do, it just feels really off to frame it like it’s the next new revolutionary, game changing, best way to do it thing
that sounds interesting because its like a more elastic version of alligator leather. i own shoes that have pin striping leather pieces of eel
The natives of the North Pacific have been doing this for hundreds of years. Nobody thought to ask them? I've been passing their story around for years, but nobody was interested. At least you picked the idea up finally.
I have always said "knowledge is the best form to grow, but it also throws more understanding to each and every step" now I just think that we should appreciate every moment in time, memory's are priceless and time is all any if us have, if we provide the next generation with more knowledge than that know what to do with it, how can they bring the beat out in us with that said
Another great idea I missed out on. Magen I cleaned fish I always was amazed at some of the hides Especially if you can preserve the scales on it
It's pretty thin so I imagine that it would make for a more affordable velum, provided you had the right adhesives to splice pieces together or if you used it to make a very small or fish-shaped book.
Interesting idea.
Barramundi leather wallets as gifts but I bought a bright Orange Barramundi purse. I love its feel. Very silky sensual feel.
Video Idea: You guys should make a video about Freitag, a Swiss brand who recycles used truck tarps into beautiful designer bags and accessories!
Unless they can seriously automate most of this process to have basically no human workers involved I just don't see this becoming a widely used form of leather. Its more of a niche market for people who want to feel good but its actual uses are extremely limited due to how thin fish skins are when compared to conventional leather.
Well yeah, right now it looks like a great alternative for exotic skins like snake and crocodile, which was even mentioned in the video.
But you know, at first there was no automated process for making cow leather as well 🙂 It might be a question of more time, investment, and development.
But even as a niche it is beneficial, as I said it’s a nice, more affordable and ethical replacement for scale-patterned exotic skins.
Sustainable business. Good luck & thank you for reducing waste
Super super excited so proud. Cannot wait to buy some of your products to help you guys out.
4:51 but tuna comes in a cow size. The problem is its mostly sold with skin on, portioned.
wouldn't it be more efficient just to use the skin as a fertilizer instead? I get that it's reducing food waste but the process of doing this seems to create more waste, i mean look at all the chemical used and what's being dumped into the drain/sewage system. I bet this is counter-intuitive process.
You might want to rewatch the video, now pay attention, you may miss something really important 😉
@@mezanian no thxs. it wouldn't matter to me at this point. the fact is there is a lot of energy and chemical used in the transformation, and this alone turned me off. lol.
@@Steven-xf8mz i don't think people understand the point of reducing waste is not to make more wasted like using chemical and water to make a bullshit product. there many thing they could do with these fish waste like making fish food/ fish bait by blending it up into a paste or composing it.
Back in 2000, it was a well known fact that Hermès had set up a collecting service to pick up as many salmon skins from food markets and restaurants to use on their luxury items such as belts, hand bags, wallets , wrist watch ties and so on. It's been going on for ages.
A nice crispy pan-seared fish skin is the tastiest part of the fish. It's also full of essential fatty acids. I couldn't imagine throwing out the skin.
Chromium tanning is not in any relation with source of skin, it's just cheaper, and produced leather is more durable. You can buy veg tanned cow leather with no problem, but it is more expensive.
I've just started my leather craft journey making oxblood knife sheaths this is a good advancement