Were Mario Kart Item Times COMPLETELY Changed In WAVE 4? (Theory)

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  • Опубликовано: 15 янв 2025

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  • @SwitchStop
    @SwitchStop  Год назад +30

    At the end of the day, this is just a theory/educated guess based on the very odd timing discrepancy and Nintendo's previous balancing changes in past waves. We obviously don't know for sure if they changed anything until Friday. Just figured this was interesting enough to bring to everyones attention! Very curious on everyone's thoughts, so feel free to drop them below!

    • @Cliffordlonghead
      @Cliffordlonghead Год назад

      First

    • @Cliffordlonghead
      @Cliffordlonghead Год назад

      Awesome video

    • @Insert_T0KEN
      @Insert_T0KEN Год назад +3

      I gotta say, it looked like he took the mushroom instead of using it, since he didn’t boost while he also lined up with the item

    • @melontoad
      @melontoad Год назад +1

      The mushroom BJR got came from an item. He kept the green shell from the previous box and when he threw it the item wheel was still spinning. So Jr. just didn't get his item before he threw the green shell

    • @SwitchStop
      @SwitchStop  Год назад

      @@melontoad Seen a couple comments about this. Definitely possible, and maybe even likely, but IMO there's such a large gap between where we see the items and where bowser JR pulls the mushroom that it feels like the roulette would've finished by then.

  • @GameBlock_
    @GameBlock_ Год назад +91

    The ability to pick up dropped items would be absolutely insane! I honestly love that Nintendo is changing things about how the game plays since it differentiates it more from the original Wii U game and gives the switch version more of its own identity.

  • @hampterland
    @hampterland Год назад +39

    Another possibility is that Bowser Jr. was still in mid-roulette after he threw that shell since there was a row of item boxes right behind him

  • @mariomythes2807
    @mariomythes2807 Год назад +64

    The former theory would be crazy, imagine slower secondary item times and not even to 0/1 second but 2/1 minutes delay. I really hope it's the latter where Bowser Jr just picked up the Mushroom from the track

    • @SwitchStop
      @SwitchStop  Год назад +9

      Both of the explanations I gave here would be WILD

    • @SwitchStop
      @SwitchStop  Год назад +8

      Like they'd seriously change the gameplay up

  • @Macasaurus
    @Macasaurus Год назад +39

    It's definitely theory 2. In an earlier shot you see those same piranha plants spitting up banana peels, and there would be no reason to hit those piranha plants because you wouldn't be able to pick up the bananas. Tho, it remains to be seen whether or not this change is exclusive to items from these piranha plants or is a change to all ground items.

    • @sap9255
      @sap9255 Год назад +2

      I mean, it could be to screw you or others over

  • @filbert_ac2851
    @filbert_ac2851 Год назад +35

    Bowser jr. Had a green shell already and had gotten that mushroom from the item box right behind him so no changes in that scene

    • @SwitchStop
      @SwitchStop  Год назад +9

      Definitely possible, but does the item roulette really take that long? He gets the item then it seems to appear like nearly 10 seconds later..

    • @melontoad
      @melontoad Год назад +18

      ​@@SwitchStop if you don't spam to get your item it takes that long

    • @kayden2119
      @kayden2119 Год назад +7

      yeah lmao this video is hilarious how much they are jumping to conclusions.

    • @Strashky
      @Strashky Год назад +4

      the roulette animation takes like 4-5 seconds. imo more then enough time to get from the bridge boxes into the cave

  • @Odyssey_Central
    @Odyssey_Central Год назад +4

    I could totally see them doing some item balancing! On top of whatever change they seemingly made here, I wouldn’t be surprised if they also added an item stat where “worse” characters got better items later down the line

    • @AK_804
      @AK_804 Год назад +1

      Hi Odyssey Central!

  • @SPEEDYCOW789
    @SPEEDYCOW789 Год назад +19

    It could also just be that bowser Jr picked up an item box just before the camera cuts to him. There are item boxes behind him when it cuts to him pulling out the mushroom. It could just be that the item roulette wheel was still going and that’s why it took so long for the mushroom to pop up. I think that’s probably the solution, although your theory is a lot cooler and more exciting, I don’t think it’s correct

    • @Aostrele
      @Aostrele Год назад

      then wouldnt jr get the mushroom boost

    • @SPEEDYCOW789
      @SPEEDYCOW789 Год назад +1

      @@Aostrele yeah, that’s the only thing I’m not sure about. Because of the camera angle the trailer uses it’s really hard to tell if he actually runs into the mushroom or not; I don’t think he does, you don’t see it on the screen whenever he pulls the mushroom out, but then again maybe that’s because the range for him picking up was just so big it’s off the screen? I’m not entirely sure

  • @Alxium
    @Alxium Год назад +12

    I think it is the 2nd theory. That would be so cool! It would basically add a whole new layer of strategy to the game. Also, adding the ability to switch between the item slots would be very welcome (like if you don't want to waste a golden mushroom so you can use a bullet)

  • @MrYee-xf6ze
    @MrYee-xf6ze Год назад +5

    It's hard for me to believe in this theory. I'm pretty sure that Bowser Jr. was holding the green shell and ran into an item box near the rock tunnel while it's on a roulette.

  • @yaboifle
    @yaboifle Год назад +8

    It’s also possible the item was still rolling from the previous box set but hopefully they add picking up items!

  • @pianist1562
    @pianist1562 Год назад +3

    There's *always* been variability for when the item roulette stops spinning - about 1 second after hitting the item box, you can press the item button and force it to stop at any time. Otherwise you get the item after around 3 seconds. Every clip you point to fits within that window. (With that said, I'm not sure why we can't see the mushroom in the second shot - the timing is really odd. Maybe just a weird angle. Just figured I'd point out that there's another explanation to the timings with existing mechanics)

  • @guyofgamez5158
    @guyofgamez5158 Год назад +7

    My Theory is: Bowser Jr. hit the piranha plant, which spits out a mushroom, then he runs into the item and picks it up (kind of like the heart item in Double Dash!!)

  • @SUPAZAY
    @SUPAZAY Год назад +2

    The reason why it's a difference is because bowser jr already had an item and used it then he just got an item box so he is still getting the second item he's getting

  • @Dutchempireball
    @Dutchempireball Год назад +7

    I think bowser jr already had a greenshell and got the mushroom from the item box

    • @ralphles21
      @ralphles21 Год назад

      @@SwitchStop my personal opinion if they want to just balance the game all I have to do is lower the invincibility frames to Mario kart Wii standards, the item to Wii and the item distribution to Wii it will turn everything into total chaos and make it more difficult.

  • @SamRegan610
    @SamRegan610 Год назад +1

    Bowser Jr. was definitely in mid-roulette when he threw the shell. The timing lines up perfectly, plus there's a shot in the DK Summit footage where Donkey Kong is holding a shell behind him, Yoshi hits it, and a Mushroom almost immediately appears in his hand, just like how it's always been. We didn't have the UI to show us the item roulette but it's still there

  • @aidanrg8954
    @aidanrg8954 Год назад +7

    Maybe you can only pick up items dropped by the piranha plant.

  • @drawing_with_mussy
    @drawing_with_mussy Год назад +1

    If you look at the waluigi stadium footage you can see that after waluigi hits an item box it takes much longer for that item to come out!!! It must be confirmed as it is not only for this.

  • @domgoncalvescezaretti5258
    @domgoncalvescezaretti5258 Год назад +1

    I find this information funny because a few weeks ago I was thinking that it would be cool to grab items that are on the ground for a future Mario Kart.

  • @OmegaGlops
    @OmegaGlops Год назад +1

    It's the latter - the whole point of even including that clip in the trailer was to showcase the Ptooie. The way that the camera is positioned so that Bowser Jr. is on the far right of the screen showing _so much empty space_ to the left of him was so that we could see the Super Mushroom land on the track. The second half of the clip switching angles to show him picking up the Super Mushroom before ending the clip.

  • @JesseHOH
    @JesseHOH Год назад +1

    Okay, I have a theory… not about this item stuff but about Characters. it might be the stupidest thing you’ve ever heard, maybe I’m reaching too far, but hear me out…
    We’re getting Wave 4 and the final Mario Movie trailer the same day right? What if that was done purposely… what if they announce at the end of the Movie direct that Foreman Spike or Penguin King or whatever will come as free Mario Kart DLC? Maybe there’ll be a catch like you need to watch the movie or something, I’m not sure how it could work, but I think that would be groundbreaking.
    It sounds crazy bc I know Nintendo said no new game announcements. But if the final movie trailer really focuses on Mario Kart like in the newest poster… idk I don’t think it’s impossible.

  • @danielrego117
    @danielrego117 Год назад

    You can see in the clip a line of items. I think the real answer for the delay is that he grabbed an item block threw the green shell and then the item block he just picked loaded in as a mushroom.

  • @yottabyte6146
    @yottabyte6146 Год назад +1

    I don’t think so, you can look at the item boxes that Bowser Jr. just passed through, and the Mushroom appearing looks like it lines up with getting an item from that item box.
    And the reason the Green Shell was there was because the player got it before that item set.

  • @HgordoX
    @HgordoX Год назад +1

    I seen this earlier and I was like nah that can't be right?

  • @tdsco
    @tdsco Год назад

    He drives over a mushroom, doesn’t get an immediate boost, but pulls out a mushroom in his inventory, thought it was obvious he stored it

  • @ACR-qb7fc
    @ACR-qb7fc Год назад +1

    I personally think he picked up the mushroom on the ground. It could be a Wave 4 update

  • @CJCat64
    @CJCat64 Год назад +1

    Although isnt there a line of item boxes right behind bowser jr. It might have just been that the item roulette was still active.

  • @corasharktale
    @corasharktale Год назад

    Bowser Jr is clearly picking up the mushroom that dropped from the patooie.

  • @chuuster5445
    @chuuster5445 Год назад

    Wow, would have never noticed. Props to your friend for noticing and great breakdown!

  • @nathanblackburn1193
    @nathanblackburn1193 Год назад

    I think it's actually that Bowser Jr had a green shell, picked up a second item box, threw the green shell while the second item was still rolling and said second item box was a mushroom

  • @Tri_VT
    @Tri_VT Год назад

    He just had the green shell from the item set before the one on the bridge and the mushroom came from the set on the bridge, which explains why it took so long to come out because it was still rolling

  • @Videoguy612
    @Videoguy612 Год назад +3

    I would love if we picked up the item instead of having it automatically used!! I hope that's true

    • @NickMario1
      @NickMario1 Год назад

      Oh hey i remember you from the Mario party server

  • @Recarsonated
    @Recarsonated Год назад

    honestly something cool would be to have that item stat affect the boo item, it has a better chance to give you better items the higher it is and reduces the chance of having your item stolen more than other racers that have a low item stat

  • @xjzgodx7265
    @xjzgodx7265 Год назад

    When the camera cuts to face bowser jr, you can see the piranha plant in the background that was just destroyed by bowser jr. This either means that the clip was merged from a different race. (editing and whatnot) or the piranha plant respawn timer is really short and you could potentially farm mushrooms ig. Just thought I'd get these ideas out there

  • @BrixVGM
    @BrixVGM Год назад

    This could be interesting, but I'd say it's more likely that he hit the item box while allready holding the green shell, so the roulette was still scrolling, and then it locked in as a mushroom.
    But the idea of being able to grab items from the ground would be quite interesting.

  • @Murmelin
    @Murmelin Год назад

    this isn't a change cuz there's an item set right before, and we can assume that the item roulette was a bit slower due to the last item set being right before the cave and he got the shroom when the roulette ended

  • @mrpigg5446
    @mrpigg5446 Год назад

    It’s because he picked up an item box earlier. He grabbed the box and it took until a little after he threw the shell to go into his hands

  • @Trevmoose05
    @Trevmoose05 Год назад

    I think he has the green shell before he hits the item set behind him, thus having the green shell ready but not the second item because he just got it. I think it’s just a lot of different coincidences

  • @Strashky
    @Strashky Год назад

    can i just say that you literally see that he just passed a row of item boxes. he probably got a shroom as a 2nd item and the item was still in the rolling animation when he threw the green shell he already had

  • @SuperStarz64
    @SuperStarz64 Год назад +5

    I don't think Nintendo change it, Bowser JR just got a item box before he uses the shell so it took a bit longer to get a new item because the item box was picking a new item... Or maybe you can now pick up items on the floor but I think its the first thing I said...

    • @SwitchStop
      @SwitchStop  Год назад +1

      As of right now, when you get a double item box the roulette stops on both at the same time! Therefore I don't think that's it...

    • @SuperStarz64
      @SuperStarz64 Год назад

      But I don't think they changed the times for the secondary item...

    • @SuperStarz64
      @SuperStarz64 Год назад +1

      @@SwitchStop Bowser JR probably had already the green shell and he got the mushroom from the item box behind him in the video or idk but I hope they did not change the times...

    • @SwitchStop
      @SwitchStop  Год назад

      @@SuperStarz64 I guess that’s possible but it seems like they’re far enough away to where the roulette would be done by then. At least in my opinion

    • @SuperStarz64
      @SuperStarz64 Год назад

      @@SwitchStop I mean, it might be on 200cc🤣🤣 But I see your point LOL.

  • @ThedHomie
    @ThedHomie Год назад

    How funny would it be if Bowser Jr. was just on separate laps

  • @BIG-NATHAN
    @BIG-NATHAN Год назад +3

    What if you were able to grab item off a player while they were holding it 🤔

  • @imaginarymadness5238
    @imaginarymadness5238 Год назад

    What i think that happend is that the person already had a shell then went through the item boxes and they used the shell on the ptoei then the item roulette was finishing up (also i think they cut the clip just before getting the mushroom)

  • @GLITCHWORMGAMESYT
    @GLITCHWORMGAMESYT Год назад +1

    Take This Video's Content With A Grain Of Salt

  • @redstar_ultra
    @redstar_ultra Год назад

    You do know there's an item box that Bowser Jr just passed right behind him in that shot? It could be a new item that he just picked up from the box. It takes a long time for the Items to roll for CPUs. I would love this gimmick but it's not really looking like it's true.

  • @dehydratedbowser5261
    @dehydratedbowser5261 Год назад

    I am 100% sure that he is picking up the mushroom dropped by the stalking piranha, it is like a special item box that always gives you a mushroom if you kill the stalking piranha and collect the mushroom dropped.

    • @PalmTreeTV
      @PalmTreeTV Год назад

      its two different clips lol

  • @Sandwiches1
    @Sandwiches1 Год назад

    It could of been where bowser Jr. Only had the green shell and picked up a mushroom from the item boxes behind him and it just loaded in or whatever

  • @tjlnintendo
    @tjlnintendo Год назад

    It would be an interesting idea. We will find out next week

  • @prestothemagnificent
    @prestothemagnificent Год назад

    2 vids in a day is hype

  • @dovenans
    @dovenans Год назад

    are there people looking for tracks that may have route change cuz we didn't expect it in peach gardens but we did at kalimari desert

  • @ultimatebanana5558
    @ultimatebanana5558 Год назад

    it also looks like the mushroom went into his iventory and instantly used

  • @Enigma75614
    @Enigma75614 Год назад

    I really hope they don’t end up ruining the game. “If ain’t broke, don’t fix it”

  • @mysteryghost7972
    @mysteryghost7972 Год назад +1

    It's probably just a shot from a different race tbh

    • @Turbo-vo6hh
      @Turbo-vo6hh Год назад

      No? It's the exact same shot, I think the picking items up theory is more valid, if that 2 second time frame was legit.. that would be insane (and not in a good way), imagine waiting 2 seconds until you can use your item.. I dont think nintendo will be that brutal to us 😭

  • @chaseweather
    @chaseweather Год назад

    There's Item Boxes Behind Him.

  • @jimii.doctor
    @jimii.doctor Год назад +1

    What about the fruit in Animal Crossing? 😅

  • @JoelTheParrot
    @JoelTheParrot Год назад

    both interesting concepts! might just be a map specific thing but it'd be very cool otherwise

  • @conkerclub
    @conkerclub Год назад

    to me it looks like a new clip because the piranha plant thing has already respawned

  • @pressstart1278
    @pressstart1278 Год назад

    well you can also see item boxes behind bowser jr so maybe he only had a greenshell when he went trough the boxes and when he threw it the item roulet wasn't done rolling yet 🤔

  • @yotamdoron-repa4628
    @yotamdoron-repa4628 Год назад

    What if he got the mushroom from the item boxes behind, and while it was coming into his second item slot, he used the green shell?

  • @dovenans
    @dovenans Год назад

    im not saying that this could be wrong but you can see that there are item boxes at the begin of that bridge so maybe he already had the shell but not the mushroom

  • @ThePixelMasterYT
    @ThePixelMasterYT Год назад

    i think that the mushroom from the plant flew on top of bowser jr off camera giving him the mushroom

  • @SableyeMK
    @SableyeMK Год назад +1

    1:49 And they did it

  • @someonesbrain4153
    @someonesbrain4153 Год назад

    Wait, hold up! When I watched the trailer again, I noticed that when it showed the GBA Riverside Park, you could actually see the piranha plant blowing the mushroom up while walking! I advise you to watch it again when it reveals the track! And that'll be your answer

  • @TwistedH12
    @TwistedH12 Год назад

    How would picking items up work if you have two items already? Would it just delete the item? Would you instantly use it?

  • @doomgamer577
    @doomgamer577 Год назад

    The piranha plant dropped a shroom in the beginning look closely at the slow mo

  • @Mr_Moi25
    @Mr_Moi25 Год назад

    I wish the lightning cpuld drop the items in possessions on the ground, like in DS or WII cus now, the only way to have ground mushrooms is with a triple mushrooms and it's pretty sad

  • @kieranturner9014
    @kieranturner9014 Год назад

    Brother you can literally see its the mushroom he picked up off the floor

  • @RockStudios15
    @RockStudios15 Год назад

    I think you can only pick up droped items from piranha plants in riverside park

  • @lukempc
    @lukempc Год назад

    what if it's only in that specific course cause that pirana plant is blowing that mushroom up what if the nintendo did that on purpose so you throw an item on them and get the mushroom for later
    great video btw

  • @alexrobi1176
    @alexrobi1176 Год назад

    I'm pretty sure its the picking up of the items, or at least thats what I hope it is.

  • @PensiveBarak925
    @PensiveBarak925 Год назад

    I also hope they make it so we can steal items

  • @IcyCliff1
    @IcyCliff1 Год назад

    The pirana plant dropped a mushroom onto the track then he picked it up nothing has changed

  • @Kod49
    @Kod49 Год назад

    he could of got the mushroom on a different lap because the pranata plant is not hurt in the next clip so i think that browser jr just got a mushroom from a item box

    • @biondigiacomo7176
      @biondigiacomo7176 Год назад

      Most enemies don't get defeated but just bounce when hit by an item

  • @SantaquinBacon
    @SantaquinBacon Год назад

    What if he just got the mushroom from the item box and it hadn’t finished spinning yet

  • @mothwingthemedicinecat
    @mothwingthemedicinecat Год назад +1

    Double upload!

  • @Blackbird9070
    @Blackbird9070 Год назад +2

    I appreciate the eagle-eyed discovery, but I think you’re looking too far into this and maybe grasping at straws. I don’t think picking up items or item timing changes are incoming. Those would be such big changes that would likely be in a different mario kart entry. Seeing how the camera angle changed in the Bowser Jr clip you showed - I don’t think that’s a reliable example to use. But hey - that’s just my two cents. I could be totally wrong - and if I am - I’ll eat these words and admit I’m wrong, but I don’t see this theory having much merit at the moment.

    • @SwitchStop
      @SwitchStop  Год назад +1

      Yeah I thought it was ABSOLUTELY too far fetched at first too, but the time difference was so big I wanted to bring it up. They’ve also done stuff like change the glider/lightning interaction which I also thought they’d never do. Also the camera change, while obviously it does add potential inconsistencies, you can see he starts a drift hop, then when the camera switches he’s at the same stage of his drift hop.

    • @Blackbird9070
      @Blackbird9070 Год назад

      That’s fair. I guess we’ll see in a week!

  • @KraZTheKid
    @KraZTheKid Год назад

    I was thinking of the 2nd theory, but I don’t know

  • @Billiam_Philliam
    @Billiam_Philliam Год назад +1

    I hate all these new changes

  • @StartbuttonGD
    @StartbuttonGD Год назад

    I don't think it's real, because it's a cut, first we can see how bowser jr kills the plant and in the next frame the plant is there

  • @jamescarter8357
    @jamescarter8357 Год назад +2

    bowser jr clearly had a shell in his first slot and then went into the set of boxes on the bridge and rolled a mushroom from it a couple seconds after throwing the shell if you test for this like you did on toad circuit you'd see the timings were correct. there's literally 0 point speculating about nintendo making item rolls slower when every bcp update to items has made getting them faster i hope you delete this video when it's disproven next thursday

  • @prestonandtom9337
    @prestonandtom9337 Год назад

    So would you picked up dropped bananas?

  • @AlwaysOnDeck
    @AlwaysOnDeck Год назад

    They need to let you switch items

  • @mannameddeclan2577
    @mannameddeclan2577 Год назад +4

    no they havent

    • @SwitchStop
      @SwitchStop  Год назад +2

      Lmao u commented this within 30 seconds of the upload. At least watch the vid man

    • @mannameddeclan2577
      @mannameddeclan2577 Год назад +1

      @@SwitchStop I already know all there is to know and what this video is about so I really don’t have to in order to know what this is about. Let me guess: the fact that you obtain and hold items dropped by the walking piranha plants? If so then I’ll tell anyone for free that in no way does that mean items or item times have changed. It’s just one course’s gimmick, potentially a few others in which items are dropped via on-track means. Simply put, in no way does this warrant such an over-exaggerated clickbait title such as what is seen here.

    • @SwitchStop
      @SwitchStop  Год назад

      @@mannameddeclan2577 that's not what the point is tho... that's just a minor course gimmick like in maple tree way with the leaf piles. Not what this is about at all

  • @wubbers662
    @wubbers662 Год назад +1

    Perhaps you are looking into this too heavily

    • @SwitchStop
      @SwitchStop  Год назад

      Probably

    • @wubbers662
      @wubbers662 Год назад

      @@SwitchStop Its better to wait to see if this holds up, once we can actually play Wave 4.

  • @jacke_RS
    @jacke_RS Год назад

    Why are they holding shells now? Were they always doing that? Omg PLEASE just make Mario kart 9 already it’s been 9 years

  • @eriknetherlands3678
    @eriknetherlands3678 Год назад

    He picks up the item from the piranha plant. Tf your on about.

  • @laser_uhhhh
    @laser_uhhhh Год назад

    2 minutes?

  • @Zonatedjaguar90
    @Zonatedjaguar90 Год назад

    Egg

  • @WatRYT1
    @WatRYT1 Год назад +1

    Yo

  • @SuperJGGaming
    @SuperJGGaming Год назад

    Hahahahahahahaha 😂🫵🏼😂😂

  • @abhibhanja3346
    @abhibhanja3346 Год назад

    you can literally see the mushroom being pulled forward in the clip. its really not that deep stop clickbaiting lmao. its not "completely" changing the game, and it most likely won't even me implemented.

  • @masonpena5010
    @masonpena5010 Год назад

    They😊

  • @Loguana
    @Loguana Год назад

    Hi

  • @masonpena5010
    @masonpena5010 Год назад

    They

  • @WatRYT1
    @WatRYT1 Год назад +1

    First to comment

  • @Soadadada
    @Soadadada Год назад

    fourth comment

  • @bowser_the_flamingshell
    @bowser_the_flamingshell Год назад

    early

  • @oxcaxx
    @oxcaxx Год назад

    I’d really wish they’d change the coin item in first place for the FIB. Bananas now just serve as blockers which is sooo boring when youre in first place. The FIB forces you to trap, and use it tactically, which is way more fun. Red shells are also just way too OP, the fact they can fly and almost NEVER hit another obstacle is absurd. If youre in first youre basically forced to block and never use your items.

  • @masonpena5010
    @masonpena5010 Год назад

    Hi

  • @masonpena5010
    @masonpena5010 Год назад

    Yo