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Colleens video here was super helpful to
Me!
Thank you so much Ashlee!
One of the many reasons I keep coming back to your videos is because of your commitment to honesty yet also at the same time refusing to bash anyone of different faiths or opinions, and refusing to bash any curriculum. It is refreshing and so inspiring to see!
I hope Shormann math works for your older two, Ashlee. We really loved it. Katie used it from Algebra 2 through Calculus and is now doing dual enrollment for math this year, which is her senior year. I really feel that Shormann prepared her so well for the SAT!
My daughter is doing Shormann this year for Algebra 2, and she’s loving it! Math is not nearly as frustrating for her as it has been in years past! 🙌🏻
I’d love to hear later or a little farther in about how the transition from TT to Shoreman went!!
YES! Agree!!!! Can't wait to hear more!
thanks for sharing! We switched from Saxon books/ Mom to Saxon 5/4 combined with DIVE videos.. and wow, what a difference! I am here to help and check, but not teaching the bulk. I also love how Shormann presents similarly to a professor, teaching the kids to take notes from a young age (this is 4th grade). Good luck and Hope all works out for your school year!!
We switched from TT to Mr. D math for geometry and pre-algebra for my older kiddos. They are doing so much better with it! And the interaction that they can have by emailing the teacher for questions is a HUGE benefit! Glad you found a math program that should work better for your older kiddos. I was an English major and teacher prior to homeschooling - so I need all the help I can get with upper math levels!!
I have struggled with finding a math curriculum for my older kids. This year I looked at Mr. D , Shorman, and Saxon with Nicole the math lady. We went with Saxon and Nicole. We have been enjoying Nicole the math lady but I can’t wait to hear your review of Shorman. Thanks for sharing!! I always learn something new from your videos
That coffee look amazing! 😍 I made some last minute changes too this year, which is so unlike me lol!
Thank you for sharing. You did an amazing job explaining why you stopped using TT. I have been meaning to comment because your videos lead me back to using TGTB. It was a double blessing this year since money was tight so i choose for everything. My 3 children are loving it all! The negative videos took us away 2 years ago and now i could not be happier to make that choice! Don't be afraid to mske a change and also don't throw the baby out with the bath water!
Also want to thank you for all of the inspiration you give in all of your videos. I have been feeling down lately too and your videos have helped more than I can put into words❤❤
Sounds like you have a great math plan for all of your children this year. One of the benefits of homeschooling is to be able to use curriculum that fits each child. I look forward to hearing updates!
As a mom who uses Shorman math yeah. We have enjoyed it with my sophomore. She was behind transitioning from public to homeschool. Can’t wait to see how you feel after a year. We are doing Shorman science too and love it.
So thankful you have these videos(this one popped up when I was searching ), I don’t want to bash curriculum either. But we are having a huge issue… long story short we are in need of a new curriculum…. Mid year emergency switch…So I’m doing the research and thankful for this video.
I am actually torn about continuing TT or switching over to another for my older kids. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and remaining so classy ❤️
I saw Coleen's video as well, and I'm definitely helpful. I have already decided that I will use Shorman Math next year for my daughter going into high school.
We are switching from TT to Shorrman Science and Math this year! I'm glad you figured out a program for your family! ♥️
Very helpful - thanks Ashlee! I’ve been weighing Teaching Textbooks against CTC Math. Leaning toward CTC… seems much more customizable & straight forward.
Colleen's RUclips channel is called Our Blessed Life. We personally use Derek Owens and it has been a dream.
We loved Principles of Mathematics when my oldest used it. Thanks for sharing your changes. Always nice to hear what others are using.
This was a really great video. We tried TT last year and my kids loved it however, with the technical issues and lack of writing it wasn't a good fit for us this year. My kids are doing level 4 and 5 TGatB math and we are loving it so far. Thank you for your dedication and hard work ❤️
Do you prefer horizons math or the new simply good and beautiful math for the elementary grades?
My daughter thrived with Shormann! She did Algebra 1 w/ Integrated Geometry and Algebra II w/ Integrated Geometry. The ONLY reason we aren't using it this year is because she has moved to an online live class. Otherwise, we would still be using it. I also switched my sixth grader this year to Saxon and also using Nicole the Math Lady along with her grading and so far so good! She watches a lesson and has to write out all of the math problems in her notebook but then she enters her grades for each problem online and gets immediate feedback on if it is correct or not. As the parent, I can set it up for how many attempts I want her to get (can be different for the daily work and quizzes/tests). I can also assign only even or odd problems. Saxon and Shormann are closely related. Hope everyone has a great year!
Not sure if you saw already, but Shormann can be considered an honors level class if it is completed in one typical school year (because it is actually 1.5 credits). They are essentially doing a year and a half worth of work in one school year so it is considered accelerated. If they take more than a typical year it would be considered a "normal" class. Shormann has all of the info online so you could print it out for a portfolio if needed. I will be honest and say that I haven't looked at it since last school year, so don't take my word for it lol.
Yes! It's so nice to see other companies not being bashed. It's so easy to be kind and explain what works and doesn't work without tearing others down
Great info for when my kids will be high school age. I’ve been using Horizon as well. My 7 & 8 year old are good for now, but…one thing I find very important is whether the child likes or learns best with a spiral or mastery model. My daughter is behind in math and the Horizon (spiral) is too much. And then the stuff she does already know, keeps coming around and is a waste of time. I decided to switch to a math program I had originally used which focuses on a mastery model and is also not heavily teacher led. Math Mammoth. I am hoping that putting her back into this program will help her a lot more and speed up her skills.
We are switching to Shormann Math this fall with my son. I am excited to hear your review. The only review I could find of it was on Our Blessed Life, and I was so grateful to see it.
We switched from TT after having the same experience you had. I started noticing my kiddos trying to do every problem in their head and then getting frustrated when they are constantly making mistakes. Also we kept having issues with the 4.0 app/update and that is very frustrating when you are trying to teach 3 other kiddos and keep a toddler busy. We are a ACE family for the most part, so for my older 2 in the 7th and 9th grade we have switched back to ACE for math for this year. My younger 2 who are in 1st and 5th are doing the new TGTB math. So far it is working for us. I would love to know how the Masterbooks math curriculum works out as that is another one I considered trying.
We have been using Shormann for 3 years now. We really like so many things about it! It makes math very do-able for me, and my son is learning a lot. My 2nd and 3rd choices were Thinkwell and Derek Owens math, but so far we have stuck with Shormann. Erica from Confessions of a Homeschooler also uses Shormann now.
We switched from TT to Shormann Math and DIVE Science this year and love it!!!!!
Woo hoo...we are using principles of mathematics and shormann math as well! A few weeks in and loving them both!
When my son was struggling we just purchased the book and the online option. So he worked it out on paper then submitted it on the computer.
Two of my sons tried Principles of Mathematics. I was at first excited to find it. My oldest enjoyed reading, but struggled with math. I thought he might do better with this math. He did fine with the reading part, but unfortunately needed a lot of my help with the workbook pages. It was frustrating the whole year. I decided to let my 2nd son try it. He is such a slow reader, I ended up reading most of the lessons to him. He did better on the daily work pages. We really enjoy other Masterbooks courses, but we were not at all satisfied with this math. I hope your son is able to be successful with it. I look forward to hearing an update!
I love Colleen's channel. I've found her curriculum videos super helpful. I appreciate yours too since you are ahead of me in kiddo years :)
My oldest tried out the Masterbooks Principles of Mathematics but it wasn’t a good fit for her so we switched to Math-U-See. She’s doing really well with it and it. She didn’t like the online math layout and preferred a physical format but they have great dvd lessons and I like how it reviews concepts as she goes through the lessons.
Thank you. I have a 7th grader who is using Life of Fred. Any help as he gets older is greatly appreciated!!!!
This is so timely, thank you for sharing! I have also used Horizons and switched to TT at the older grade levels. My daughter is a senior this year and she participates in a local Christian private school's homeschool program, so that she can play highschool sports with them. We submit our curriculum choices and samples of work, ect. I was told at our meeting this year that her TT math would be fine for their highschool graduation requirements, but next near, when my son will enter highschool, TT will no longer be an acceptable curriculum to meet their math requirements 😬. So I've already started looking for another option that is online but more challenging than TT. So thank you so much! I'll be looking forward to your update later in the year.
I’m using the good and the beautiful math k for my kindergartener. We are loving it so far.
We used Shormann Algebra 1 last year. It was definitely more intense than any other Algebra 1 curriculum I have seen. There is also some pre calculus and statistics thrown in. We are using Shormann/Dive Integrated Chemistry and Physics this year, and it is also a wonderful course.
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We've used Christian Light Education for Math but I'm considering switching to an online Math program for future grades. Looking forward to your review for this program. Currently teaching 5th grade so I still have time to decide. Thanks for sharing as I've never heard of this one before.
That's so interesting!! I loved algebra, and I was terrible at geometry.
Yes to Shormann... I saw a lot of homeschooling moms suggesting TT. We tried the trial. But wasn’t really sold on it, my child saw it to be a little childish. I didn’t know how to teach HS Math. We started with Pre Algebra when we almost ended the last school year.
I got the inputs from Our Blessed Mess and Our HOMEschool Plan.
For my 2nd grader, I still haven’t found the right Math for us. Will try TGATB. But will be combined with Rays Arithmetic.
This will be helpful as my kids age I’m always looking to try new curriculum and different sources
I actually don't bother watching the videos of people complaining about a curriculum, because each family is different and what may work for some may not work for others. For instance, I'm doing science with my preschooler because she's ready for it, while others may frown upon it.
Totally agree. My son is 7 now but he was ready and begging to learn science even when he was 3 1/2 or 4. It was an interest and so we've been using different science curriculum for him since K and we are always going off on tangents together to learn. Honestly he's mostly on a 2nd or 3rd grade level for most subjects but I get him 4th-6th grade science because he's learned so much and retains it all. It's amazing but that's one of the joys of homeschool. We get to do what works for OUR kiddos, curriculum included ❤️
It's nice to hear about the other curriculums out there for older kids. I'm in my second year of homeschooling my youngsters (so still kind of a newbie), and we're using TGTB. But I like being able to think ahead
Thanks for sharing, we are using TGATB levels 1 & 3 here. I hope your math choices work out well this year!
So glad you shared this information!! Thank you!! I have a child in Math 6 TT and this is great info for next year and high school!! Always love your homeschool content💗
Thank you Ashlee. Love your updates!
We love TT and we have used it for years BUT I have always just bought the disks bc I have 5 kids to go through them. A big draw for us in using the discs was unreliable rural internet so I get potential frustration with online programs. I prefer hard copies just in case. I’ve heard that Shoreman Math is fantastic!!!!!!
Thank you, I was having similar feeling about TT and reviewing the other programs and their strengths.
Thanks so much for sharing! My oldest is using Mr. D for Algebra right now and loves it. I’m looking into Shormann for next year for my next oldest child. Can’t wait to hear what you think.😃
My 7th grader is using the same master books program. We are very hopeful. Also very excited for tgatb new math 4 to arrive 🎉🎉 good luck to all you mommas out there
I did the same thing with my high schoolers. We jumped from teaching textbooks algebra 1 with my oldest to Saxon algebra 1 (yes, she took algebra 1 twice). She was ahead with TT and took her second year of algebra 1 in 9th grade. I was looking ahead at dual enrollment and wanted her to do well on the placement test - which she did. We used Saxon for algebra 1 and 2 until we got to Advanced mathematics and I listened to Shormann math’s perspective on why his precalculus with trig would be more up to date for the SAT’s (we had been using his videos for Saxon). We switched to Shormann precalculus with trig for my oldest and moved my middle child into Shormann algebra 2. He then went on and finished Shormann precalculus with trig his junior year. I was happy with the quality and teaching. I will say though, that the lessons in precalculus take sometimes two days to finish. 🤪
TT is great but I hav heard the same thing about the Pre-algebra and algebra levels. Thank u for sharing ur journey w math. I can’t wait to hear how Sherman math works for u.
Please please please give us an update on this when you get a chance. Thanks!!
I did in my end of the year reviews!
@@GraceandGrit oh you did? I need to go look again. Thanks!
Thank you for this video.. we did Principles of Mathematics last year it was a great program. We also paid for the teacher video lessons which helped my son.
My oldest in 5th grade so I have a bit before HS but I enjoy hearing about different curriculum. I also really appreciate that you can have an opinion and still remain classy. I’ve seen some of the “bashy” videos and I find them so unnecessary! Much love, momma! ❤️
My sons are using PoM I and PoM II this year! Looking forward to your thoughts on this curriculum in the future. So far we're loving it. I know MB Academy (extra cost) offers video lessons for these books. We personally didn't feel the need to use this option but for parents who want to it sounds great.
Can you update on principles of mathematics?
I am using BJU materials for 7th grade. I am wondering if I should use Shorman for Algebra 1 or the BJU Algebra. Thoughts on why Shorman for math over BJU? Thank you for all of you great videos!
Love your humility and honesty
Thank you for sharing your experiences. It is really helpful.
Love your homeschool content! Don't change. ❤
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We have loved horizons all the way up and now we are in the first few weeks of horizons pre algebra and I’m looking for something less teacher intensive.
If you had it to do over would you still use TT for those middle school years? Truly curious because I trust your option so much. We JUST started TT, mostly because I needed to make homeschool more doable this year. I'm homeschooling 3 (5th, 4th & 2nd) and have a 2 year old and baby. So time is very precious during our days. I really, really wanted the kids to do TGTB's math, but needed easy this year. Knowing what you know now, would you use TT again?
Love your integrity Ashlee! Your channel is always full of positivity. Please keep us updated on your math curriculum! We are using TT and I’ve had some of the same doubts that you mentioned! :-)
I would love an update later in the year! We have done levels 3-6 with 2 of my children in teaching textbooks and have found it to be way easier than good and the beautiful math. I do like the challenge of TGTB, but it was too teacher-intensive. I plan to use the new math soon from them for my younger children. I want my children to also have an online math because I don't have time in the day to teach every math lesson. You are right about this past year with TT....it was a nightmare switching to 4.0 and it drives me crazy that there are incorrect problems! We have only come across 2 ever, but it will also count the problem wrong many times when you put in an extra 0 like 06 instead of 6 or 1.40 instead of 1.4. those are the same number, so it bugs me. But yes, it's hard to find something that is similar priced. Other curriculums will be 2, 3, or even 4x the price of TT.
I was looking at the MB math for per-algebra too! They do offer a video course that goes along with it, that almost hooked me. lol It looked good but had a lot of reading (extra stories and explaining) so we decided against it for now, but I would love an update on how it goes! That could be a pro or con depending on how you like your math presented to you as the student. I also am wanting to hear about the HS math, that is always needed! Thanks for this :)
My 14 year old daughter is struggling with tt pre algebra. But has always struggled with math. To be honest I don't remember algebra 1 AT ALL. So I am learning with her. We both HHHHHAAATTTEE math and I try so hard not to let my hate of math rub off on her but she hates it on her own. We tried Thinkwell and really enjoyed it but it was as easy to navigate.
We switched from horizons (we went all the way up!) over to Shorman Math this year with my eighth grader. It’s is a different format so we are still working the kinks out but are enjoying all the pros of an online program! I found out about this math from Colleen as well. What level are you kids taking? Would love to hear an update of how it goes after you have dived into it! Thanks for all your great content.
I left TT this year. I felt it wasn’t challenging my elementary kids anymore.
Happily using TGATB levels 3 and 5! What a (wonderful and needed) difference 👍🏼❤️
Also, just to add, TT was great for us, for a season. But last year I literally was in tears over all the updates and issues on two separate occasions with my husband. I couldn’t handle it 🤣
Great video, Ashlee! We currently do TT and my kids are a bit behind where I would want them to be, unfortunately, but we are still plugging away. I do like these thoughts on TT bc I find that my kids don't like writing it down now that they use it and I have had to really push them to write in their notebooks. Right now they are in 3, 4, and 6, though, but I do like looking ahead at shormann or even Mr. D.
We graduated two from TT; both went to pre-calc. One rocked the math portion of the ASVAB and the other just did OK. I will add that I required them to take notes on every lesson & work every problem on paper.
Quick question. Are they repeating Algebra 1 then to get the 1/2 geometry credit? My daughter did Mr D (Algebra1) in 8th but want to switch to Shorman to do math and science. Just thinking about where to start her out. As always thank you for all the great info!
I appreciate these videos, thank you 🙂
Gosh, I’m so thankful to find out there is something out there like that for moms that need help when the kids get other! We are just in 1st grade so we have a ways to go still ❤️ with your youngest, have you used TGATB math thus far? We have been using since primer k thanks!
I need this today because I need to switch math curriculums again
I Ashley long time viewer of tour channel. I am looking into Sherman math for my kids this year and was wondering if you use the live classes or self paced?
Self paced
I agree I can't stand when people bash curriculum. There are definitely times something doesn't work and there is nothing wrong with sharing the pros and cons with people so they can decide what might work for them but the bashing is ridiculous. I am so glad to have your channel to follow as my oldest boys are in grade 5 and there is so little high school content available on youtube. I had never heard of Shoreman before so I will be interested to see how it works for you!
Great information thanks for sharing. 💙💙
TT did not work for my daughter last year. She has really been enjoying TGATB math level 5 this year. Do you know of plans for level 6?
So true about algebra versus geometry. I love algebra I am so great at algebra but I cannot stand geometry it was probably my least favorite class to take.
I'd never heard of Shoremann before today so nice to have more options. I have been doing a LOT of math research because I have one wrapping up elem math this year and we have to switch because his curriculum ends. I really really wanted to do teaching textbooks because it seemed so easy on me but I don't think it will be enough for us. At this point I THINK we are going to try TGTB math next year for 6th but will most likely need high school options. How is she liking the combo of books and videos with TGTB my son says he likes the way it looks.
She loves it. Tgatb does not have 6th grade
@@GraceandGrit yes it’s supposed to come out next summer though which would work for us :) I’m also not sure if he will place in 5 or 6 and don’t mind doing 5 for a bit to review if it’s not out yet.
Please update us on the principles of mathematics. I heard it's common core math so I didn't get it.
I have six kids some do great in math and others believe that math is mental abuse to humans. 😂 we have used principle of mathematics with the videos for less reading and more visual help. We enjoyed it. I think it’s a great fit after horizons math. I feel MB math options are really strong for middle and high school and has a great biblical worldview. We currently also use Shormann Math and really like how he explains things, how he encourages taking notes, you get a bit of history, and his biblical worldview as well! It’s also neat that it feels very college prep even in how things are graded. Plus getting three credits with the purchase of just algebra one and algebra two because the geometry is woven into it is wonderful and so practical for ACT/SAT testing. I also like the length of time you have for your subscription being two years. All that said, we used TT for years and also switched, but like you said TT has its benefits as well! Hope it’s a smooth transition for y’all! Blessings!!
What about Math-U-See did you not like? There is a video at the beginning of each lesson/week (that you can access online, you don’t have to use DVDs anymore) & then they can do as many worksheets as they need throughout the week. You & I have very similar opinions on most things, so I was shocked you didn’t like that 😂
For horizons, did you just use the student notebooks or did you do the teachers manual with it? I have been looking into what to switch to from teaching textbooks even before this video!
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Do you know if the good in the beautiful are going beyond math 5?
It seems to me that the videos titled "why I quit __ curriculum" are very duplicitous. They are using a curriculum name to further their own name and "fame" while bashing said curriculum. And all the people who also don't like that curriculum watch and join in on the bashing. I just don't like those videos either. Thanks for being so great!
But as a researcher, I want to know why some curriculum didn’t work bc so many curriculum videos are sponsored. So as a viewer, it’s helpful to know why people quit using….like what things should I know that is hard to tell from all the “pro” videos….so I find those videos helpful at times. (if they are genuinely sharing feedback. It’s obvious who just wants attn bc they’ve made more than 1 video about the exact same topic.)
You kind of said you think it’s wrong to give an honest review if that review might be negative. But when I look at amazon feedback, for example, I look at the one star reviews first. Doesn’t mean I won’t purchase that product, but I want to know what “flaws” I might need to research further. Maybe they’re reasons I’m not thinking of.
I state what I don’t like, I just am not going to bash it.
@@GraceandGrit you’re right. that is what you said. I misunderstood. I was reacting to why you’d never title a video “why I quit.” But I do click on those videos. But it’s bc I want to know the blind spots I may not be seeing or bc there are questions I have that aren’t being answers by the website or other video reviews. Thank you for your honesty and authenticity.
Same. That’s why i love Ashlee’s content because of the detail she gives about the products. So many positive (and sponsored) reviews gush in very general terms like, “it works so well for our family!” but isn’t specific about why or how. Critical reviews tend to share more about exactly what was a poor match. Sometimes a pro for one family is a con for another.
We’re in the same situation with TT. My 8th grader is currently doing Algebra after completing pre-algebra last year with an overall grade of 96%. He’s not taking notes and I feel he’s missing some things….would I be able to switch him to Shormann Algebra or do you think he’s behind from doing TT (I’ve heard it’s a grade level behind) and should do Shormann pre-algebra? As a 2nd year homeschool mom your videos have been extremely helpful! Thank you for all you do!!
You could definitely switch.
I need math video curriculum for division does anyone have suggestions? My kids love logical and practical. I am looking at BJU but I am open to suggestions (I would like it to weave in God).
Do you plan to use any of the videos that have with the online academy with principles of mathematics?
Not at this time
So is your daughter taking algebra 1 again? Wondering because we too just finished algebra 1 so given that geometry is not offered separately, how would one go about that?
^^^
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So if a child has completed algebra 1 with another curriculum (teaching textbooks) and has had no geometry where do you have them start with this math?
This starts at the basics so she’d be fine
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Is there anyone here planning on leaving algebra out of their whole curriculum?
What do you mean by leave out algebra? It's foundational for going any farther in math, so it'd be hard to skip it and still teach/learn higher math concepts.
I refuse to watch those kinds of videos because they are so click bait and I always think it’s super rude to put a curriculum company on blast because it didn’t work for you. Everyone runs their homeschool differently so of course not every curriculum is going to be the right fit for your family!