+Angery Its not all about the speed. Personally its about the feed back that you get, i garuantee that I can type at about the same speed on every keyboard that has the same layout because that is what im used to, but if its linear its harder to feel when it activates, same with some rubber domes. Also i notice some fatigue when i use my keyboard at work that I have not encountered at home. Granted at home in not typing numbers and emails for hours at a time.
You don't really need a mechanical keyboard to have the same performance. I use Logitech Silence professional lineup of wireless keyboards and they offer the same or even better gaming performance and daily tasks. Only thing is the larger foot print. Same goes with their MX revolution / performance mices vs something like their g700.
I feel like at $200 you should get so much more from this keyboard. The way it looks now, it seems like it shouldnt go passed $100. Maybe if tbey add more functions (possibly an extra dial or other dedicated media controls), improved battery, adjustable inclination, and a more premium build, only after things like that ill consider it to be justified at $200
It's cool for web browsing and volume control... but those Office "productivity" shortcuts are really just gimmicks. Also, everyone flipping out over the price: it's wireless, it's beautiful, it has many features. Yes it's suspiciously Apple-like but many people like me would pay the premium simply for the color matching with an MX mouse, and the minimalism it adds to a desktop.
Yeah, Logitech should just use the built-in Windows Dial API which makes Logitech job easier and have more apps compatible with it, actually any app that will use Windows Dial API. There is really no need to have proprietary solution on Windows anyways, on Macs yeah since there seems to be no built-in feature on macOS for dial-type peripherals. Also even better to have fingerprint scanner too for Windows Hello authentication. There is so much space they can add stuff without making it ugly. Like you've said, I rather get a mechanical and Surface Dial instead of this. I like the look of this keyboard, but the price with its limited proprietary functionality is a bummer. It doesn't even come with detachable palmers.
I think they have to include that anyway for Windows version that doesn't have the dial API (8.1 and below). But still, they should make use of native dial API whenever available. Hope they include it in later firmware updates, it would make it much more worthwhile.
I know this sounds really shallow, but I actually bought this keyboard based on its looks and how it would visually compliment my set up. It’s functionality is a bonus. It really is a beautiful piece of kit.
Every time he said Craft Keyboard I thought about cheese lol. But for $200 no for me. I like the keyboard, and it would be a nice addition to mobility for me, but it would be more enticing at $100-$130, that would be a good sale.
they made a keyboard with a scroll wheel on the left side of the keyboard, it was so awesome, such fast and accurate scrolling, I still miss that keyboard (Logitech Internet Navigator keyboard), way better then the stupid crappy infinite scroll on their mouses, I hate that, especially when it switches by middle click making it unusable then
Alot of creative people live and die by their keyboard shortcuts. This keyboard looks awesome, but I'm not sure the wheel alone makes me want to upgrade.
idiot this is Ferrari in keyboards what I am typing right now from. and no typo. and the shark skin on the keys ? and the serious alloy on frame ? it is fucking heavy. you will see. And the wheel sometimes works sometimes I don`t give shit :)
At $200 Ill stick with my keyboard shortcuts when using Photoshop, The dial seems really nice to control certain things., but shortcuts can do most of everything it does.
R U TEEN or .. idiot this is Ferrari in keyboards what I am typing right now from. and no typo. and the shark skin on the keys ? and the serious alloy on frame ? it is fucking heavy. you will see. Yes you fucker pay normal license with upgrades to be a serious designer! MTF
For 200 dollars this is retarded it is a 30 dollar keyboard with a dial that should be seperate if you think about it. Most creators are already accustomed to the hardware and dont have the time or just don't want to change their keyboard cause the paid a lot of money for it. What I think Logitech should have done is take the knob like they have in the z333 and put the features that they have in the dial on the keyboard in there priced at around 50 dollars because there is nothing really like this on the market. This would give people the flexibility they would want and make it a great product. Sorry for the rant but I had to say this. 😰
As much as I'd love to have a analog/mechanical volume knob on my keyboard, not for that price :) Should put one on the other side to use them as an etch a sketch
Or you can keep your keyboard and by Palette Gear starter kit for the same price which includes a dial plus two buttons and a slider, and you can customize it and upgrade it anytime.
Great review, thank you. You made buying a fairly expensive keyboard a simple decision. I want to add how refreshing it is for a reviewer to spend the whole time talking about the product and not about themselves!
Cool keyboard. Not worth$200. Better battery, more customization features, macros, complete control over the dial. Then maybe it'll be worth the $200 price tag
Hard to believe more people aren't complaining about the week-long battery life. Seriously?? I have a logitech keyboard that is not backlit... wireless... and it uses 2 AA batteries - and lasts over a year. Are you kidding me??? It will spend most of its time being charged since it has an internal battery that only lasts about a week. It's a good-looking and apparently ergonomic-friendly keyboard with crisp keystrokes... but dang - pass on a week of battery life. I just can't do it.
You need to try one. I bought a regular Microsoft keyboard and couldn't live with it. I trialled the Craft for a week and it needs to be used to be fully appreciated. It's £145 in the UK and I've gone with it. Most people won't care but, if it matters, it's hard to find anything better.
Just got this keyboard today. Didn't even know all the options and typing on it is fantastic. As for the dial in Premiere, it's hella better than zooming and moving the mouse to get to that EXACT moment in the video you want to make a cut or insert text, so it's a total win for me just for that alone. And it's precise.
ww998w[Gamel] This annoys me so much. They release the new version of the mx master which has micro usb. A couple of weeks later they release a keyboard that would perfectly complement the mouse and it has usb-c.
can't agree more, the one make the decision without type-c mxmaster2 should be fired. but meanwhile i am still happy with my mxmaster1, will wait for the next with type-c
Always nice to get extra USB-C cables just by buying a product. I was happy about it in my review. Although, the battery life of this keyboard is terrible!
What about the bottom row keys - where each one looks like two keys paired together? Does each function as one or two keys (double keys)? I need some keys for switching language layouts, plus AltGr and compose keys, so in other words, a lot of different keys on the bottom.
Any chance you went to advertising school? Running an ad for a keyboard on a review for a different brand keyboard? Big time advertising no no. The Chevy Volt video is sponsored by Ford. Hmmm.
My feedback in my review was that while only the upper part is metal, the plastic is premium plastic. It at least feels good. And my jumps on the keyboard did not do any damage to it. (yes, I actually was standing on the keyboard) It does lightly bend in middle though. The battery life is certainly not premium though!
I need this keyboard. Although I agree with you with the symbols on the keyboard (eg: cmd | alt), I have to say this is incredibly useful because I'd use just like my MX3: cross platforms (Mac & Windows). I've seen some other iterations, but this seems to be the one it delivers it better.
1. The dial does NOT CONTROL EVERYTHING - Be aware of fraud review (No 3D design software will react to the dial-AutoCAD does not work with this) 2. Backlight can be turned off 3. If you want to know about this dial feature watch from half of this movie. I wasted my 10minutes watching someone tells me how great this keyboard is when it is nothing too different than other dell short heighted keyboards
I bought the Craft keyboard some time ago. I'm a programmer. There are several things I really hate about this keyboard 1. The switch between the several connections (1,2,3 keys over the home button) are very annoying. I sometimes press them accidentally and then nothing works anymore. Very confusing in the beginning and now very annoying. 2. I really hate the top right button for locking your Windows session. I use the numerical keyboard very often including the + and - signs. The lock is so close to the minus sign that on a daily basis my system is locked several times because I tapped 1 key too high. I wish I could disable that. 3. The backlight is just not working very well. From time to time it just stops working at all. Have to pull the cable and turn the keyboard off and on for it to start working again. Also very often when my hands get near it does not turn on. Have to tap the crown to turn it on. Very annoying when lights are dim. 4. I use it mostly with the dongle and from time to time it just looses connection or keys get stuck in the down position and this causes the key last pressed just to go on forever messing up my code. 5. The software looks pretty but from time to time just really sucks. It gives me errors, gets stuck. One time had to reboot my system just to get it working again. 6. I hate the layout of the function keys. On many of the other keyboard I used, the function keys are grouped into 3 groups of 4 keys each. I knew the layout by hart and was able to find them blindly (f.i. F5 is used to build a solution is Visual Studio and was always easily spotted as the first key to the right of the first space between groups). The keys are no longer grouped and aligned evenly on the top row. That looks nice but it's a nightmare for me since I can no longer feel where the keys are and have to look every time. Stupid change if you ask me. I do agree with you it is a quality build keyboard and it has a very nice touch to it. But the firmware and software really need to be looked at. And you programmers out there. It may look tempting but keep away from this keyboard if you are used to and familiar with standard layouts. All in all. It's a pretty expensive keyboard but it has a lot of cons at the moment.
Very nice review. I already have the keyboard and love it. It may be that it suites my typing style. As for the dial, It has limited functionality for me as only use it for the Microsoft Office Applications. The functionality within these applications are limited. I will suggest prospective purchases go into a store and have a feel for the keyboard. Before the purchase of this keyboard, I went through 3 brands in two weeks In my opinion, it is money well spent.
The Logitech website has this keyboard listed at $199.00 U.S.D. For nearly the same cost as this Logitech Craft keyboard, I am doing the same as this using a Matias wireless Bluetooth backlit keyboard with a Griffin Powermate USB dial. So, $199 for this all-in-one Logitech Craft keyboard version is at a comparable price. My Matias keyboard, though can be used between both my Mac and my iPads/iPad Pro. My Mac setup with Matias Bluetooth backlit aluminum keyboard and Griffin Powermate Dial works with older Mac systems with older Mac OS versions all the way back to OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard. You need Mac OS X 10.11 El Capitán or later Mac OS to use this keyboard.
If you think about this and its closest competitors, the Apple Magic Keyboard (129.99) or the Microsoft Surface Keyboard with Fingerprint ID (129.99), you really have to think is the extra knob, being able to connect multiple devices, and backlight worth $70 to you. For me i'd just get a Corsair K70 and some change.
This keyboard looks great. I personally hate the big mechanical keyboards everyone has to use these days. It's a little too pricey for me though, it would be nice if they could have the same thing only without the dial if that would make it cheaper.
You don't need to have a big keyboard to have a mechanical keyboard. These do not go hand-in-hand. If you were to say that "gaming" keyboards are big, than yes - I would agree that they are in fact generally larger but this is only due to their added features(Volume/Macro keys for example which take up more real estate) My G413, and Vara keyboards both have a an identical footprint as a standard membrane keyboard.
I just meant the big, loud keys that sound (and feel) like they were made in 1980 to me. I just prefer the feel of a thin keyboard, like this one or even the Apple's keyboards. I've been using a big and clunky rgb Razer keyboard lately and I just can't get used to it, so I'm in the market for something more like this.. but this is just too expensive for what you get.
There are lots of cheap 20-30 logitech and other brand keyboards at local electronic stores that have shallow Chiclets keys similar to a laptop/mac keyboard which correct me if i'm wrong - is what you seem to be aiming for. Even dell has shallow keyboards.
This keyboard is a big disappointment - 200 USD one may think, would bring you the swiss army knife of keyboards. But why can you only connect it to 3 devices? 1 Desktop + 1 work Laptop + 1 private laptop + 1 iPhone + 1 IPad .... makes 5 and should not be to unusual to have that number of devices, escpecially those who are willing to spend this amount of money. The knob is nice - but there were keyboards 10 years ago, which provided similar knobs ... and they cost probably 10 or 20 USB more then regular keyboards .... but this functionality did not lead to twice the price of the current top logitech. Where are USB Hubs in case it is connected via cable? ... the sd-card reader? .... it is just a lame keyboard. As an ambitious media specialist - I would get one of the "old game pads" - e.g. Logitech, which offers 20+ programmable buttons, a joystick and more ... for - WAIT FOR IT" ~ 30 USD.
About alt/ ctrl confusing , I'm confuse when the video started!!! but $200 for keyboard is really bull ****** design good but definitely its not worth of money..........
I personally think that 200$ is a waste if it's not one of the best rated mechanical keyboard out there. If professionals/developers/inventors want a keyboard that makes their lifes slightly easy, almost most cheap Microsoft/Logitech keyboards with special keys or dedicated hot-keys (G1/G2/G3/G4/G5) will do the job. I bought a very cheap "Microsoft Wireless 800 Keyboard+Mouse" combo and tho i'm just a gamer, I know that this keyboard looks very nice compared to most regular keyboards, it has a built-in hand rest (whatever it's called), buttons are easy to register, and it has 4 dedicated media buttons, a calculator button, and a "Fn" button that provides you with additional 4 shortcuts located on the F5, F6, F7, F8 buttons, and the location where the windows button should be located in the right side near the arrow keys, is replaced with a new button that mimics the action of the right mouse click button (mostly displaying the options for a document or so). I bought this wireless keyboard+mouse for personal use, mainly i do gaming, but hell this keyboard is so flexible and fits for all kinds of tasks, whether it's for gaming, office works, or even coding for program developers. Cost me around 30-37$with a mouse (i use now Logitech G402 Hyperion Fury FPS mouse) I'm so satisfied with this keyboard that i'm barely sure that some day i'll consider buying mechanical keyboard. If i'll do, it'll probably be the Logitech G810.
Good morning from Sweden. I have my Craft keyboard yesterday, but I can't make it work on my iMac OSX Catalina 10..15. I can type on it but the option software don.t installs properly. Have you any idea how to make it work. Regards Lars
If the dial's main browser feature is tab scrolling...not worth it. I can simply read my tab labels and proceed accordingly. Thus, 200$ saved. Just another gimmick like the MBP Touch bar and similar unsavory add-ons BILLED as workflow productivity features.
I would have seriously considered buying this keyboard if they 1. made it 70%-sized without the numpad and 2. made it cheaper. My desk space is just too small, and with my recently-added Wacom Intuos Pro, there really isn't any more space for a full-sized keyboard left on my desk (am using their K810 keyboard right now, by the way). And in fact, the Touch Ring on my Intuos Pro, while not as versatile or integrated, can provide similar functionality anyway. You know what would be the best? If they made just the Crown, without the keyboard. I would gun for that almost immediately.
Terrific design, but I couldn't boot my iMac into Recovery mode or into Diagnostics using the Craft keyboard. Also, my Batteries widget is unable to pick up the battery level and the Options app doesn't provide us with an indication of the battery level either.
200 euros ??? Come on, it is just a keyboard ! You even have laptops at this price which include a lot more components (screen, keyboard, motherboard, processor, RAM, graphics and sound cards, hard drive, software, etc...). It looks nice, seems innovative, but come on, make the price like 100 euros (still expensive) but ok.
Honestly... one of the best keyboards I ever had! I it is magical. And I love it. I am not paid by Logitech to say that. I am customer. Very very nice and worth few quids up to be honest. And true alloy is fucking cold and keys are really exciting to type. Seriously. And I thought I am not geek. fuck :) and the best sight of metal... ? IS ? Physics ? Heavy. It is. Fuck mac keyboard.... seriously. This is hybrid btw... Typing on it is a pleasure. And no typo... And extra neat keys... like a quick screenshot shortcut for me as a designer is brilliant stupid idea. Love it.
Hi Eber. Like you, i don't like the Fn mechanism, it's confusing. Also i think the dial is a useless gimmick. But this is all we got now, right? Do you know some high end keyboard that is NOT a gaming keyboard? Logitech had Dinovo Edge back then. It's sleek, minimalistic DESIGN, the fuction is great, but it's NOT minimalistic in the term of functionality. Do you know any keyboard that's like that?
Just got this keyboard today. What a 200 dollar joke. Screen brightness, play/pause/skip, and volume buttons are completely non-functional for me. Running the latest Mojave and the latest Logitech firmware etc. Anyone else having this problem? I live and die by those buttons so this keyboard is being returned ASAP. Big middle finger to you, Logitech.
It's not $200. I saw it at Best Buy for $159, and I purchased two keyboards off eBay for $129 each with free shipping. You can easily adjust the automatic backlight setting or turn it off completely The keyboard works great and is very easy to use and type on! I mostly use the dial to adjust volume or pause videos, but I also use it to switch between tabs.
Well, I guess you really need to enjoy that dial to justify this keyboard. I personally don't think I would. Battery life and build quality of the Apple Magic Keyboard or Surface Keyboard is better. (And a lot cheaper) 1 week with this. 1 month with the Apple keyboard and 1 year with the Surface Keyboard. It's like the less you pay the more battery you get. Backlighting just isn't worth it.
I'm tempted, but do consider it excessively expensive. An improved version with a somewhat larger, ribbed tactile, well-damped metal dial (ideally, with a touchscreen LCD / LED / AmoLED top that shows the app / system, the in-app mode it's in and the current function), no number pad, a vastly improved battery life, an integrated fingerprint reader to log onto the computer, to lock / unlock it, as well as individual apps or functions within the app, well-damped, somewhat more tactile keys with extremely tight tolerances between the keys and the main body, and a price tag of €150, I'd buy it in an instant. Of course, functions such as key illumination and a touch interface for the crown are indispensable as well. But that is not enough. An addition of an LCD/LED/AmoLED strip extending along the length of the keyboard next to the crown would be very enticing, too. I hope, Logitech is listening...
Corsair's K95 Platinum is way more productive at the same price ...ok ok it isn't wireless but come on you can reassign EVERY key on that full sized keyboard ...who needs that dial when you can get that ability ...if you don't believe me Taran from LTT proved and showed it
Nope... just gimmick. Still, I prefer my gaming keyboard for all these macro keys that I can assign various shortcuts. After all these years working in Photoshop&co every couple of years, I'm still upgrading to mmo mouse and gaming keyboard. Corsair metal stylistic remains unbeaten for my taste. Besides, changing brush size is much faster with rebinding that to mouse scroll with a modifier. Why would i invest 200$ to have a dial. And that's only if I'm not working with Intuos.
I'm considering buying this, deciding between this and the Razer Ornata Chroma. I'm hoping you can clarify something for me: How do the Photoshop adjustments work? From your video, it looks like the dial adds an adjustment layer above the currently selected layer. Is that right? And if so, how does the dial handle multi-layered documents with more than one adjustment layer? Thx in advance for your advice!
Why is this wheel a selling point? We have had multimedia keyboards forever... The MAJORITY of which have more functionality, durability, and accessibility than this overpriced joke of a keyboard. You can set a mouse wheel to do the same things as this Logi wheel crap crap and have the functions right at your fingertips. Quit promoting shit products that are doing nothing but driving up market prices on tech and making consumers think this is actually worth $200!
I don't object to spending $200 or more ____ IF it gives me something I don't already have with my Logitech K800 and MX Master mouse (which BTW is NOT as good as it's predecessor). But it doesn't, so I just saved $200 (plus shipping)!
I was thinking this might really be something I could put to use. But, honestly, I'm totally underwhelmed; especially at that price point. The keyboard itself is ..... well, a freaking keyboard. It's rather nice looking. But, really, who cares? It's just a freaking keyboard with some assignable buttons. And the dial seems like maybe $75 useful. Honestly, like I'm sure you can deduce from what I said about it's looks; I couldn't really care less about that aspect of a product; not as far as it might relate to the price. So, for the functionality alone, I don't think I would pay more than fifty bucks, at most. Really I wouldn't buy it at all, now that I think about it a bit more. Too bad. I could really use some good new input devices to help speed up my work.
3:18 Two "alt" buttons really confusing, have to agree there. The Win key called "start"? Why not logo? Licensing issues? 4:39 they could encode there 8 profiles as binary toggles (010, 101 etc) 6:40 They also could easily add multitap and longtap there. Also the trigger duration of the taps. IMO - not worth it for that price.
So basically this is a normal 50$ wireless -if you allow me, shitty as well- keyboard with a 150$ novelty scroll wheel AND a useless bulky grey bar... You can never, ever, convince me that a wheel is so ergonomic and time-saving so that I would spend 150$ for a basic product... Don’t be fooled people.
Funny thing is that you get that exact same software with their lesser expensive keyboards. I'd never go too low on the spectrum, but I personally have the k830... Same exact software suite, same options, same remapping, but it offers a windows precision touchpad as well. Oh, same nice backlight, same nice switches... only thing it doesn't have is the dial. Far better option in my opinion... Based entirely on the fact that the asking price for the Craft Keyboard is a joke.... a bad one.
I don't get it. A $200 keyboard should perform functions flawlessly. Yet, this reviewer admits that certain things, e.g., the overly sensitive knob, aren't quite right. I've used a quality mechanical keyboard for the past few years, and honestly, it just hasn't disappointed me yet. I use a high-end gaming mouse which offers a lot of customization options even if you don't use it for games. Also, I'm left wondering if the switches on this keyboard are even mechanical switches. Are they rubber dome switches with a tighter mechanism? If so, the thing is overpriced. Further, one of the things that you should expect from a high-end keyboard is durability, and this keyboard does not seem very robust.
$200 and only comes in Black? If it were White or Silver with a 50$ price cut, I could see myself interested in it. P.S. Price in CDN would be preferable. :D Why is it so hard to find an all Silver or White backlit/rgb keyboard (mech or otherwise) from a reputable company at a reasonable price?
"This keyboard is for creative professionals" pffft lol Real creative Professionals dont use fancy shit that need this much maintenance and isn't durable. The Problem with this keyboard is that its wireless and the switches are not durable nor high quality + $200 wtf?? The only good about this keyboard is that it looks good and that all that matters hey fuck performance... review a product honestly next time.
I've got a K750 Solar Panel and it's brilliant, shame they didn't do that [solar charging] with this one. Looks nice though, shame that some users might have a 3DConnexion Space Mouse, making the rotating wheel thing surplus. Still, if the price comes down a bit (well, a lot), I'd be interested!
I am amazed! I am amazed, how you can reinvent a resell inefficient design just with few colors and stupid gadgets. Keyboard is nowadays your primary input for computer. So it makes sense it to be good and efficient, ergonomic. And this has none or it. Bad ergonomics (good ergonomics is more expensive), bad keys, not enough of programmable keys. Instead you get backlighting, which is pointless for someone who does not look at keyboard (which everyone who uses keyboard should learn), and knob is distant from fingers home position and it's uses are really limited. So yes. This is excellent product for someone who do not use keyboard that much and want to brag about his keyboard based on its looks despite of flawed functionality.
I have the Griffin Powermate bluetooth, and frankly, it sucks for my purpose (although being perfect in theory). I bought it to get a tactile control over the Q-value when doing live EQ parameter sweeps in Logic with the mouse. Does the Logitech dial have high resolution? And this is probably the most important question for me: Does it have a deadzone? That's what really killed the Powermate for me. (no pun intended) I had to turn it at least one or two millimeters before it responded. Totally out of the question.
6:00 for dial information
Thx
Thank you good sir
"This dial controls everything!" but we don't have any relevant info about it until almost halfway through the video.
THANKYOU!
HaydenHatTrick I recall watching your plasma ball vid ages ago.. huh
Cooler master keyboard sponsoring Logitech keyboard haahahaha
I thought the same 😂😂
Hang on, this wasn't Austin at all!
why would you think he was Austin ?
8:02
He also uses linustechtips style graphs on 9:39 and before
200$? they are learning from apple..
PanzerFaustFurious ikr
these pc people problems. MacBooks touchpad can do more then this shit including a mouse
+Chillhoof true, i actually like iphones. Just overpriced.
PanzerFaustFurious Android's superior, you beta.
Androids are becoming just as overpriced now. But realistically, can't see this being worth $200... For just a wheel...
Almost got excited, then remembered Logitech's pricing scheme...
You're a pricing scheme.
How dare you. I'm a pricing scheme.
yes logitech always scamming people cheap keyboards and mice
Cheap.
Ah! Good one!
head chuck I disagree, with logitech keyboards and mice you are getting a sturdy, satisfying experience. But their headsets are pretty bad
200 dollars wtf
If it was mechanical or if it was priced at 100$, it would be a much easier sell.
@ Savva Moser : You means Cherry MX Blue keyboards ? because all of my co-workers say they really like to type on my Topre keyboard xD
Knightcore Mechanical is so overrated.
Gorilla Jones I can type with mechanical keyboards way faster But thats just my experience
+Angery Its not all about the speed. Personally its about the feed back that you get, i garuantee that I can type at about the same speed on every keyboard that has the same layout because that is what im used to, but if its linear its harder to feel when it activates, same with some rubber domes. Also i notice some fatigue when i use my keyboard at work that I have not encountered at home. Granted at home in not typing numbers and emails for hours at a time.
You don't really need a mechanical keyboard to have the same performance. I use Logitech Silence professional lineup of wireless keyboards and they offer the same or even better gaming performance and daily tasks. Only thing is the larger foot print. Same goes with their MX revolution / performance mices vs something like their g700.
I'll wait for the CRAFT Dial by itself. Or in a set. Maybe with some sliders. Basically a cheaper Logitech version of Palette Gear. Yeah, that.
The audio in these videos sound sooo clear! ♥️
I feel like at $200 you should get so much more from this keyboard. The way it looks now, it seems like it shouldnt go passed $100. Maybe if tbey add more functions (possibly an extra dial or other dedicated media controls), improved battery, adjustable inclination, and a more premium build, only after things like that ill consider it to be justified at $200
John Esparza find a backlit, wireless, well built keyboard for 100.-
It's cool for web browsing and volume control... but those Office "productivity" shortcuts are really just gimmicks.
Also, everyone flipping out over the price: it's wireless, it's beautiful, it has many features. Yes it's suspiciously Apple-like but many people like me would pay the premium simply for the color matching with an MX mouse, and the minimalism it adds to a desktop.
I wish the dial have used windows wheels API instead of Logitech's own software. And at this price I'd get a machenical keyboard and a surface dial.
Yeah, Logitech should just use the built-in Windows Dial API which makes Logitech job easier and have more apps compatible with it, actually any app that will use Windows Dial API. There is really no need to have proprietary solution on Windows anyways, on Macs yeah since there seems to be no built-in feature on macOS for dial-type peripherals.
Also even better to have fingerprint scanner too for Windows Hello authentication. There is so much space they can add stuff without making it ugly.
Like you've said, I rather get a mechanical and Surface Dial instead of this. I like the look of this keyboard, but the price with its limited proprietary functionality is a bummer. It doesn't even come with detachable palmers.
I would suggest to let Logitech know it was stupid idea... like spam them every day for the next week or something...
I think they have to include that anyway for Windows version that doesn't have the dial API (8.1 and below). But still, they should make use of native dial API whenever available. Hope they include it in later firmware updates, it would make it much more worthwhile.
Ptrk Hrnk that never really works
I know this sounds really shallow, but I actually bought this keyboard based on its looks and how it would visually compliment my set up. It’s functionality is a bonus. It really is a beautiful piece of kit.
bout to do the same thing
Taran from LTT made a video on his channel. He said this was the best knob EVER.
Fresh cuts dude
Every time he said Craft Keyboard I thought about cheese lol. But for $200 no for me. I like the keyboard, and it would be a nice addition to mobility for me, but it would be more enticing at $100-$130, that would be a good sale.
The price will probably drop down to $50 on Black Friday lol
The dial seems useful to me, I would love to see it as a standalone device like the Surface Dial.
Amazing Video mate - great job!
(if only more videos on youtube were made with this much style)
I fell like having that wheel standalone by itself or placed on the left of the keyboard would be better for productivity and ergonomics.
they made a keyboard with a scroll wheel on the left side of the keyboard, it was so awesome, such fast and accurate scrolling, I still miss that keyboard (Logitech Internet Navigator keyboard), way better then the stupid crappy infinite scroll on their mouses, I hate that, especially when it switches by middle click making it unusable then
yes, it's called surface dial.
Sooooo, it's a laptop keyboard with a surface dial strapped to it.
Cool
The aesthetics of Hardware Canucks videos are just mind blowing!
Hey guys this is Austin!
Michael Novak wrong channel
+Jarr You didnt watch the whole video did you?
No, you are Michael...
AlphaMc111 I stopped 1 minute left I lost intrest tbh
Dang, I love that ad in the beginning! (well done and entertaining :)
Oddly satisfying
Why is the "tech" missing in the logo?
More "sleek" design you know
logitech rebrand since the mx master 2s came out as far as i know
Logitech has been going by "Logi" for awhile now and have recently started branding they're higher end products as "Logi".
They don't care about the tech anymore
They rebranded their logo as "Logi" back in 2015.
Alot of creative people live and die by their keyboard shortcuts. This keyboard looks awesome, but I'm not sure the wheel alone makes me want to upgrade.
idiot this is Ferrari in keyboards what I am typing right now from. and no typo. and the shark skin on the keys ? and the serious alloy on frame ? it is fucking heavy. you will see. And the wheel sometimes works sometimes I don`t give shit :)
At $200 Ill stick with my keyboard shortcuts when using Photoshop, The dial seems really nice to control certain things., but shortcuts can do most of everything it does.
R U TEEN or .. idiot this is Ferrari in keyboards what I am typing right now from. and no typo. and the shark skin on the keys ? and the serious alloy on frame ? it is fucking heavy. you will see. Yes you fucker pay normal license with upgrades to be a serious designer! MTF
For 200 dollars this is retarded it is a 30 dollar keyboard with a dial that should be seperate if you think about it. Most creators are already accustomed to the hardware and dont have the time or just don't want to change their keyboard cause the paid a lot of money for it. What I think Logitech should have done is take the knob like they have in the z333 and put the features that they have in the dial on the keyboard in there priced at around 50 dollars because there is nothing really like this on the market. This would give people the flexibility they would want and make it a great product. Sorry for the rant but I had to say this. 😰
As much as I'd love to have a analog/mechanical volume knob on my keyboard, not for that price :)
Should put one on the other side to use them as an etch a sketch
Useless...
There's already a rotating knob for most desktops... mouse-wheel
9:09 how did you create such a wonderful chart?
12:12 WRF???? USB Type C ..... OMFG
2:36 how its work the touch line?
A link to the wallpaper you have would be nice.
Yes Please anyone
GM ThenQ m8 ♥️
GM You da real MVP
At that price I would expect multiple dials and custom buttons.
5:50 for the real deal
It' basically MacBook touchpad and F keys controls put on keyboard for Windows PC's...
Or you can keep your keyboard and by Palette Gear starter kit for the same price which includes a dial plus two buttons and a slider, and you can customize it and upgrade it anytime.
Man! Your voice is really amazing. Calm and awesome to listen to
Nice new hairdo Eber.
that thing is fucking shit at $200
Is that a new hairstyle?
DWAIPAYAN SEN The same but with a slightly unprofessional fade.
Great review, thank you. You made buying a fairly expensive keyboard a simple decision. I want to add how refreshing it is for a reviewer to spend the whole time talking about the product and not about themselves!
Cool keyboard. Not worth$200. Better battery, more customization features, macros, complete control over the dial. Then maybe it'll be worth the $200 price tag
Hard to believe more people aren't complaining about the week-long battery life. Seriously?? I have a logitech keyboard that is not backlit... wireless... and it uses 2 AA batteries - and lasts over a year. Are you kidding me??? It will spend most of its time being charged since it has an internal battery that only lasts about a week. It's a good-looking and apparently ergonomic-friendly keyboard with crisp keystrokes... but dang - pass on a week of battery life. I just can't do it.
Membrane keyboard > 10$
Membrane keyboard but with a dial > 200$
Mechant EXACTLY! People are fucking morons. I'm surprised Apple didn't come up with this. lol
Even on a Logitech video people find ways to bash Apple... *rolleyes*
@@TheDareD3vil because it's sooo easy
its not membrame..
You need to try one. I bought a regular Microsoft keyboard and couldn't live with it. I trialled the Craft for a week and it needs to be used to be fully appreciated. It's £145 in the UK and I've gone with it. Most people won't care but, if it matters, it's hard to find anything better.
Just got this keyboard today. Didn't even know all the options and typing on it is fantastic. As for the dial in Premiere, it's hella better than zooming and moving the mouse to get to that EXACT moment in the video you want to make a cut or insert text, so it's a total win for me just for that alone. And it's precise.
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Logitech is stepping up their game
LaPendejo it seems like they're stepping up their prices too
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Kirotone LOL
It isn't even a mechanical keyboard.
Along with there prices...
Totally useless... you can do all of this with a $10 mouse...
nice! usb-c charging, waiting mx master to change to usb-c
ww998w[Gamel] This annoys me so much. They release the new version of the mx master which has micro usb. A couple of weeks later they release a keyboard that would perfectly complement the mouse and it has usb-c.
can't agree more, the one make the decision without type-c mxmaster2 should be fired. but meanwhile i am still happy with my mxmaster1, will wait for the next with type-c
Always nice to get extra USB-C cables just by buying a product. I was happy about it in my review. Although, the battery life of this keyboard is terrible!
What about the bottom row keys - where each one looks like two keys paired together? Does each function as one or two keys (double keys)? I need some keys for switching language layouts, plus AltGr and compose keys, so in other words, a lot of different keys on the bottom.
Great video! Can't wait to test ours!
Any chance you went to advertising school? Running an ad for a keyboard on a review for a different brand keyboard? Big time advertising no no. The Chevy Volt video is sponsored by Ford. Hmmm.
Stopped watching when realized its not even metal and costs 200$ rofl
Raven A good for you.
Assuming that metal is always superior in manufacturing is completely amateur. It is also why I know this guy and yourself knows diddly.
I will suggest touching the keyboard and I am sure you will think differently.
My feedback in my review was that while only the upper part is metal, the plastic is premium plastic. It at least feels good. And my jumps on the keyboard did not do any damage to it. (yes, I actually was standing on the keyboard) It does lightly bend in middle though. The battery life is certainly not premium though!
IT IS METAL AND FUCKING HEAVY.. I AM TYPING ON IT RIGHT NOW! AND BELIEVE ME I AM SO EXCITED! LIKE TO TO CLICK A A CLIT :D REALLY!
traveling with this craft keyboard would be in the carry on luggage or checked luggage?
haircut lookin slick
Guys, you are buying a dial that looks like something made in the 1940's for only $200. What a steal
Is there any phrase more pretentious than "Optimise your workflow"
ascullydotcom Sounds professional to me. Maybe you're just a different kind of person.
ascullydotcom If you make money by the job then optimizing your work makes you more money
2 jobs per day > 1 Job per day
more like: 1,01 jobs per day > 1 job per day
You can optimize the optimization of your workflow by not spending $200 on a fashion accessory.
ascullydotcom but dude.. it's a membrane laptop keyboard.. WITH A KNOB! Tell me this isn't what you've waited your whole life for!
I need this keyboard. Although I agree with you with the symbols on the keyboard (eg: cmd | alt), I have to say this is incredibly useful because I'd use just like my MX3: cross platforms (Mac & Windows). I've seen some other iterations, but this seems to be the one it delivers it better.
Loving the haircut, bruv! X
1. The dial does NOT CONTROL EVERYTHING - Be aware of fraud review (No 3D design software will react to the dial-AutoCAD does not work with this)
2. Backlight can be turned off
3. If you want to know about this dial feature watch from half of this movie. I wasted my 10minutes watching someone tells me how great this keyboard is when it is nothing too different than other dell short heighted keyboards
This has been the EXACT functionality i've been looking for. If there's DaVinci Resolve support & if only the board was ~$100, then I'd buy it!
yeah it works
I bought the Craft keyboard some time ago. I'm a programmer. There are several things I really hate about this keyboard
1. The switch between the several connections (1,2,3 keys over the home button) are very annoying. I sometimes press them accidentally and then nothing works anymore. Very confusing in the beginning and now very annoying.
2. I really hate the top right button for locking your Windows session. I use the numerical keyboard very often including the + and - signs. The lock is so close to the minus sign that on a daily basis my system is locked several times because I tapped 1 key too high. I wish I could disable that.
3. The backlight is just not working very well. From time to time it just stops working at all. Have to pull the cable and turn the keyboard off and on for it to start working again. Also very often when my hands get near it does not turn on. Have to tap the crown to turn it on. Very annoying when lights are dim.
4. I use it mostly with the dongle and from time to time it just looses connection or keys get stuck in the down position and this causes the key last pressed just to go on forever messing up my code.
5. The software looks pretty but from time to time just really sucks. It gives me errors, gets stuck. One time had to reboot my system just to get it working again.
6. I hate the layout of the function keys. On many of the other keyboard I used, the function keys are grouped into 3 groups of 4 keys each. I knew the layout by hart and was able to find them blindly (f.i. F5 is used to build a solution is Visual Studio and was always easily spotted as the first key to the right of the first space between groups). The keys are no longer grouped and aligned evenly on the top row. That looks nice but it's a nightmare for me since I can no longer feel where the keys are and have to look every time. Stupid change if you ask me.
I do agree with you it is a quality build keyboard and it has a very nice touch to it. But the firmware and software really need to be looked at. And you programmers out there. It may look tempting but keep away from this keyboard if you are used to and familiar with standard layouts.
All in all. It's a pretty expensive keyboard but it has a lot of cons at the moment.
You can get a super ergonomic keyboard for that much
Very nice review.
I already have the keyboard and love it. It may be that it suites my typing style.
As for the dial, It has limited functionality for me as only use it for the Microsoft Office Applications.
The functionality within these applications are limited.
I will suggest prospective purchases go into a store and have a feel for the keyboard.
Before the purchase of this keyboard, I went through 3 brands in two weeks
In my opinion, it is money well spent.
Hey guys, this is Austin!
The Logitech website has this keyboard listed at $199.00 U.S.D.
For nearly the same cost as this Logitech Craft keyboard, I am doing the same as this using a Matias wireless Bluetooth backlit keyboard with a Griffin Powermate USB dial.
So, $199 for this all-in-one Logitech Craft keyboard version is at a comparable price.
My Matias keyboard, though can be used between both my Mac and my iPads/iPad Pro.
My Mac setup with Matias Bluetooth backlit aluminum keyboard and Griffin Powermate Dial works with older Mac systems with older Mac OS versions all the way back to OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard.
You need Mac OS X 10.11 El Capitán or later Mac OS to use this keyboard.
Eber your videos are awesome i really love them......!
justin bieber squad that's Eber...
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justin bieber squad troll
If you think about this and its closest competitors, the Apple Magic Keyboard (129.99) or the Microsoft Surface Keyboard with Fingerprint ID (129.99), you really have to think is the extra knob, being able to connect multiple devices, and backlight worth $70 to you. For me i'd just get a Corsair K70 and some change.
This keyboard looks great. I personally hate the big mechanical keyboards everyone has to use these days. It's a little too pricey for me though, it would be nice if they could have the same thing only without the dial if that would make it cheaper.
You don't need to have a big keyboard to have a mechanical keyboard. These do not go hand-in-hand. If you were to say that "gaming" keyboards are big, than yes - I would agree that they are in fact generally larger but this is only due to their added features(Volume/Macro keys for example which take up more real estate) My G413, and Vara keyboards both have a an identical footprint as a standard membrane keyboard.
I just meant the big, loud keys that sound (and feel) like they were made in 1980 to me. I just prefer the feel of a thin keyboard, like this one or even the Apple's keyboards. I've been using a big and clunky rgb Razer keyboard lately and I just can't get used to it, so I'm in the market for something more like this.. but this is just too expensive for what you get.
Tim Kline Absolutely agree. I think the logitech solar keyboard k750. Just the right amount of travel for me.
Check out hp elite wireless v2
There are lots of cheap 20-30 logitech and other brand keyboards at local electronic stores that have shallow Chiclets keys similar to a laptop/mac keyboard which correct me if i'm wrong - is what you seem to be aiming for. Even dell has shallow keyboards.
This keyboard is a big disappointment - 200 USD one may think, would bring you the swiss army knife of keyboards. But why can you only connect it to 3 devices? 1 Desktop + 1 work Laptop + 1 private laptop + 1 iPhone + 1 IPad .... makes 5 and should not be to unusual to have that number of devices, escpecially those who are willing to spend this amount of money. The knob is nice - but there were keyboards 10 years ago, which provided similar knobs ... and they cost probably 10 or 20 USB more then regular keyboards .... but this functionality did not lead to twice the price of the current top logitech. Where are USB Hubs in case it is connected via cable? ... the sd-card reader? .... it is just a lame keyboard. As an ambitious media specialist - I would get one of the "old game pads" - e.g. Logitech, which offers 20+ programmable buttons, a joystick and more ... for - WAIT FOR IT" ~ 30 USD.
can it dial back feminism?
LMFAO
Hell I'd pay 5K for a keyboard if it did that!
About alt/ ctrl confusing , I'm confuse when the video started!!! but $200 for keyboard is really bull ****** design good but definitely its not worth of money..........
Logitech Crap Keyboard
What makes it crap?
I personally think that 200$ is a waste if it's not one of the best rated mechanical keyboard out there.
If professionals/developers/inventors want a keyboard that makes their lifes slightly easy, almost most cheap Microsoft/Logitech keyboards with special keys or dedicated hot-keys (G1/G2/G3/G4/G5) will do the job.
I bought a very cheap "Microsoft Wireless 800 Keyboard+Mouse" combo and tho i'm just a gamer, I know that this keyboard looks very nice compared to most regular keyboards, it has a built-in hand rest (whatever it's called), buttons are easy to register, and it has 4 dedicated media buttons, a calculator button, and a "Fn" button that provides you with additional 4 shortcuts located on the F5, F6, F7, F8 buttons, and the location where the windows button should be located in the right side near the arrow keys, is replaced with a new button that mimics the action of the right mouse click button (mostly displaying the options for a document or so).
I bought this wireless keyboard+mouse for personal use, mainly i do gaming, but hell this keyboard is so flexible and fits for all kinds of tasks, whether it's for gaming, office works, or even coding for program developers.
Cost me around 30-37$with a mouse (i use now Logitech G402 Hyperion Fury FPS mouse)
I'm so satisfied with this keyboard that i'm barely sure that some day i'll consider buying mechanical keyboard. If i'll do, it'll probably be the Logitech G810.
Good morning from Sweden. I have my Craft keyboard yesterday, but I can't make it work on my iMac OSX Catalina 10..15. I can type on it but the option software don.t installs properly.
Have you any idea how to make it work.
Regards
Lars
If the dial's main browser feature is tab scrolling...not worth it. I can simply read my tab labels and proceed accordingly. Thus, 200$ saved. Just another gimmick like the MBP Touch bar and similar unsavory add-ons BILLED as workflow productivity features.
Membrane keyboard for $200.. Nice joke
I would have seriously considered buying this keyboard if they 1. made it 70%-sized without the numpad and 2. made it cheaper. My desk space is just too small, and with my recently-added Wacom Intuos Pro, there really isn't any more space for a full-sized keyboard left on my desk (am using their K810 keyboard right now, by the way). And in fact, the Touch Ring on my Intuos Pro, while not as versatile or integrated, can provide similar functionality anyway.
You know what would be the best? If they made just the Crown, without the keyboard. I would gun for that almost immediately.
Terrific design, but I couldn't boot my iMac into Recovery mode or into Diagnostics using the Craft keyboard. Also, my Batteries widget is unable to pick up the battery level and the Options app doesn't provide us with an indication of the battery level either.
200 euros ??? Come on, it is just a keyboard ! You even have laptops at this price which include a lot more components (screen, keyboard, motherboard, processor, RAM, graphics and sound cards, hard drive, software, etc...). It looks nice, seems innovative, but come on, make the price like 100 euros (still expensive) but ok.
Honestly... one of the best keyboards I ever had! I it is magical. And I love it. I am not paid by Logitech to say that. I am customer. Very very nice and worth few quids up to be honest. And true alloy is fucking cold and keys are really exciting to type. Seriously. And I thought I am not geek. fuck :) and the best sight of metal... ? IS ? Physics ? Heavy. It is. Fuck mac keyboard.... seriously. This is hybrid btw... Typing on it is a pleasure. And no typo... And extra neat keys... like a quick screenshot shortcut for me as a designer is brilliant stupid idea. Love it.
Hi Eber. Like you, i don't like the Fn mechanism, it's confusing. Also i think the dial is a useless gimmick. But this is all we got now, right?
Do you know some high end keyboard that is NOT a gaming keyboard? Logitech had Dinovo Edge back then. It's sleek, minimalistic DESIGN, the fuction is great, but it's NOT minimalistic in the term of functionality. Do you know any keyboard that's like that?
Just got this keyboard today. What a 200 dollar joke. Screen brightness, play/pause/skip, and volume buttons are completely non-functional for me. Running the latest Mojave and the latest Logitech firmware etc. Anyone else having this problem? I live and die by those buttons so this keyboard is being returned ASAP. Big middle finger to you, Logitech.
It's not $200. I saw it at Best Buy for $159, and I purchased two keyboards off eBay for $129 each with free shipping. You can easily adjust the automatic backlight setting or turn it off completely The keyboard works great and is very easy to use and type on! I mostly use the dial to adjust volume or pause videos, but I also use it to switch between tabs.
Well, I guess you really need to enjoy that dial to justify this keyboard.
I personally don't think I would. Battery life and build quality of the Apple Magic Keyboard or Surface Keyboard is better. (And a lot cheaper)
1 week with this. 1 month with the Apple keyboard and 1 year with the Surface Keyboard. It's like the less you pay the more battery you get. Backlighting just isn't worth it.
I'm tempted, but do consider it excessively expensive.
An improved version with a somewhat larger, ribbed tactile, well-damped metal dial (ideally, with a touchscreen LCD / LED / AmoLED top that shows the app / system, the in-app mode it's in and the current function), no number pad, a vastly improved battery life, an integrated fingerprint reader to log onto the computer, to lock / unlock it, as well as individual apps or functions within the app, well-damped, somewhat more tactile keys with extremely tight tolerances between the keys and the main body, and a price tag of €150, I'd buy it in an instant. Of course, functions such as key illumination and a touch interface for the crown are indispensable as well. But that is not enough. An addition of an LCD/LED/AmoLED strip extending along the length of the keyboard next to the crown would be very enticing, too.
I hope, Logitech is listening...
Corsair's K95 Platinum is way more productive at the same price ...ok ok it isn't wireless but come on you can reassign EVERY key on that full sized keyboard ...who needs that dial when you can get that ability ...if you don't believe me Taran from LTT proved and showed it
Nope... just gimmick. Still, I prefer my gaming keyboard for all these macro keys that I can assign various shortcuts. After all these years working in Photoshop&co every couple of years, I'm still upgrading to mmo mouse and gaming keyboard. Corsair metal stylistic remains unbeaten for my taste. Besides, changing brush size is much faster with rebinding that to mouse scroll with a modifier. Why would i invest 200$ to have a dial. And that's only if I'm not working with Intuos.
I'm considering buying this, deciding between this and the Razer Ornata Chroma. I'm hoping you can clarify something for me: How do the Photoshop adjustments work? From your video, it looks like the dial adds an adjustment layer above the currently selected layer. Is that right? And if so, how does the dial handle multi-layered documents with more than one adjustment layer? Thx in advance for your advice!
Why is this wheel a selling point? We have had multimedia keyboards forever... The MAJORITY of which have more functionality, durability, and accessibility than this overpriced joke of a keyboard. You can set a mouse wheel to do the same things as this Logi wheel crap crap and have the functions right at your fingertips. Quit promoting shit products that are doing nothing but driving up market prices on tech and making consumers think this is actually worth $200!
Are you aware of any other device you can pair with MAC OS to control things like this knob does?
I don't object to spending $200 or more ____ IF it gives me something I don't already have with my Logitech K800 and MX Master mouse (which BTW is NOT as good as it's predecessor). But it doesn't, so I just saved $200 (plus shipping)!
I was thinking this might really be something I could put to use. But, honestly, I'm totally underwhelmed; especially at that price point. The keyboard itself is ..... well, a freaking keyboard. It's rather nice looking. But, really, who cares? It's just a freaking keyboard with some assignable buttons. And the dial seems like maybe $75 useful. Honestly, like I'm sure you can deduce from what I said about it's looks; I couldn't really care less about that aspect of a product; not as far as it might relate to the price. So, for the functionality alone, I don't think I would pay more than fifty bucks, at most.
Really I wouldn't buy it at all, now that I think about it a bit more.
Too bad. I could really use some good new input devices to help speed up my work.
3:18 Two "alt" buttons really confusing, have to agree there.
The Win key called "start"? Why not logo? Licensing issues?
4:39 they could encode there 8 profiles as binary toggles (010, 101 etc)
6:40 They also could easily add multitap and longtap there. Also the trigger duration of the taps.
IMO - not worth it for that price.
So basically this is a normal 50$ wireless -if you allow me, shitty as well- keyboard with a 150$ novelty scroll wheel AND a useless bulky grey bar... You can never, ever, convince me that a wheel is so ergonomic and time-saving so that I would spend 150$ for a basic product... Don’t be fooled people.
Funny thing is that you get that exact same software with their lesser expensive keyboards. I'd never go too low on the spectrum, but I personally have the k830... Same exact software suite, same options, same remapping, but it offers a windows precision touchpad as well. Oh, same nice backlight, same nice switches... only thing it doesn't have is the dial. Far better option in my opinion... Based entirely on the fact that the asking price for the Craft Keyboard is a joke.... a bad one.
I don't get it. A $200 keyboard should perform functions flawlessly. Yet, this reviewer admits that certain things, e.g., the overly sensitive knob, aren't quite right. I've used a quality mechanical keyboard for the past few years, and honestly, it just hasn't disappointed me yet. I use a high-end gaming mouse which offers a lot of customization options even if you don't use it for games. Also, I'm left wondering if the switches on this keyboard are even mechanical switches. Are they rubber dome switches with a tighter mechanism? If so, the thing is overpriced. Further, one of the things that you should expect from a high-end keyboard is durability, and this keyboard does not seem very robust.
$200 and only comes in Black? If it were White or Silver with a 50$ price cut, I could see myself interested in it. P.S. Price in CDN would be preferable. :D Why is it so hard to find an all Silver or White backlit/rgb keyboard (mech or otherwise) from a reputable company at a reasonable price?
"This keyboard is for creative professionals" pffft lol
Real creative Professionals dont use fancy shit that need this much maintenance and isn't durable. The Problem with this keyboard is that its wireless and the switches are not durable nor high quality + $200 wtf??
The only good about this keyboard is that it looks good and that all that matters hey fuck performance... review a product honestly next time.
I've got a K750 Solar Panel and it's brilliant, shame they didn't do that [solar charging] with this one. Looks nice though, shame that some users might have a 3DConnexion Space Mouse, making the rotating wheel thing surplus. Still, if the price comes down a bit (well, a lot), I'd be interested!
I am amazed!
I am amazed, how you can reinvent a resell inefficient design just with few colors and stupid gadgets.
Keyboard is nowadays your primary input for computer. So it makes sense it to be good and efficient, ergonomic. And this has none or it. Bad ergonomics (good ergonomics is more expensive), bad keys, not enough of programmable keys. Instead you get backlighting, which is pointless for someone who does not look at keyboard (which everyone who uses keyboard should learn), and knob is distant from fingers home position and it's uses are really limited.
So yes. This is excellent product for someone who do not use keyboard that much and want to brag about his keyboard based on its looks despite of flawed functionality.
I have the Griffin Powermate bluetooth, and frankly, it sucks for my purpose (although being perfect in theory). I bought it to get a tactile control over the Q-value when doing live EQ parameter sweeps in Logic with the mouse. Does the Logitech dial have high resolution? And this is probably the most important question for me: Does it have a deadzone? That's what really killed the Powermate for me. (no pun intended) I had to turn it at least one or two millimeters before it responded. Totally out of the question.