Herb Lubalin talks about creating his PBS logo

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024

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  • @benwatson6729
    @benwatson6729 6 месяцев назад +6

    I like when the different PBS logos are animated instead of just prints. The final PBS' "P" however is the most simple, but iconic logo that treasures childhood's memory for generations.

  • @chanmichankim
    @chanmichankim 3 года назад +37

    it's just good to know that even the greatest designers' ideas were rejected many times- makes it easier to deal with mine lol

  • @SuperLenny1975
    @SuperLenny1975 8 лет назад +56

    "He doesn't look happy, but at least he looks hopeful."
    *eagle suddenly melts*
    "Nope, he looks dead. Not big deal."

  • @jtrevrb1
    @jtrevrb1 2 года назад +9

    This sequence of sounds and the lil man’s head would captivate me as a child to this station. I knew fun programs would come on any minute and I felt safe. I would wonder where these images were coming from and how the place looked like. Strange feeling as an adult finding answers to questions I had thought about long long ago.

  • @boisegameshowguy
    @boisegameshowguy Год назад +10

    It’s a good thing they settled on the p-head. Many of the other ideas would have seemed dated much sooner. The p-head is very versatile, even with font changes and such. It still works today, just look at the set of the PBS Newshour

  • @CANNYZEROSUGAR
    @CANNYZEROSUGAR 8 лет назад +16

    2:24 P-Head Squashes B and S

  • @mediumstudio
    @mediumstudio 6 лет назад +18

    THE BEST LOGO EVER MADE

    • @heatherferreira4225
      @heatherferreira4225 6 лет назад +1

      I'm torn between this one and WGBH from roughly the same period. Try as I might for the life of me I can't decide which one I love best.

    • @beefydie2010
      @beefydie2010 Год назад

      Bro p head is based

  • @MinifigNewsguy
    @MinifigNewsguy 2 года назад +6

    This logo was the branding for PBS Digital Studios from inception to 2019. No concerns of baggage...40 years later it seemed to work well for them.

  • @kadenvanciel9335
    @kadenvanciel9335 9 лет назад +18

    The animation sequence as well as the music makes me think of animations by Chuck Jones and his team back in the 60's-70's days when they made cartoons.

  • @DavidVBBMLeniPrayForMikeUkrain
    @DavidVBBMLeniPrayForMikeUkrain 6 лет назад +11

    They have to do all original and alternate PBS logos.

  • @JHollowayNetwork
    @JHollowayNetwork 4 года назад +9

    But by 1984, Chermayeff & Geismar took Herb Lubalin's P from the previous logo and had it faced right, plus adding another outline of the face.

    • @ClassicTVMan1981X
      @ClassicTVMan1981X 2 года назад

      C&G were also the designers of the Screen Gems "S from Heck" (1965-74) and NBC's present Peacock logo (since 1986).

  • @jadsi
    @jadsi 5 лет назад +6

    This segment came from Media Probes - Episode 6: Design

  • @CappyDash
    @CappyDash 3 года назад +9

    Since the old man said that the logo happened 10 years ago, the video must have tooken place in 1981.

    • @L1701
      @L1701 3 месяца назад +1

      Herb Lubalin died in 1981.

  • @alexanderbanos8125
    @alexanderbanos8125 3 года назад +5

    Herb even used his very own fonts ITC Avant Garde and Lubalin Graph for his PBS logo wordmarks.

    • @L1701
      @L1701 15 часов назад

      I love Lubalin Graph. I know these days it's seen as a bit of an "old-school" font, but I still think it looks nice.

  • @kadenvanciel9335
    @kadenvanciel9335 10 лет назад +8

    Bonus(I think):The animation was the text moving up, then the blue P-Head, the yellow B, & the green S all together rushing in, but PBS said,"No."So they went for the 1971 animation we now know today.

  • @ThePowerpuffHotline
    @ThePowerpuffHotline 3 года назад +11

    It’s official, P Head’s original name was the Blue man

  • @SauceEstPizza
    @SauceEstPizza 5 лет назад +12

    Ironically, the logo looked at the right side in the future.

  • @CANNYZEROSUGAR
    @CANNYZEROSUGAR 8 лет назад +12

    "If We Turn the face Around he is gonna have his nose right up to B"
    his nose suddenly squashes B and S a little
    "If he gets it closer more, B & S Will Be Pushed Away"

    • @gustavoobom899
      @gustavoobom899 6 лет назад +3

      And Text are Gone And P-Head was a Split

  • @Dayo.Agbetoyin
    @Dayo.Agbetoyin Месяц назад

    PBS Was Called Nation Educational Television

  • @Saeydontsleep
    @Saeydontsleep Год назад +4

    2:24 BRO P-HEAD KISSING B & S 💀💀💀

    • @YellowBallOfficial
      @YellowBallOfficial 10 месяцев назад

      No she is not 😅😅😅

    • @Saeydontsleep
      @Saeydontsleep 10 месяцев назад

      It looks like kissing

    • @RQBtv
      @RQBtv 8 месяцев назад

      @@YellowBallOfficial she?

  • @zxueir3838
    @zxueir3838 3 года назад +6

    Herb Lubalin is my Great-Great-Uncle.

  • @HuskyDog88
    @HuskyDog88 Год назад +4

    What was wrong with their first try? After all, this is NATIONAL TV.

  • @hoseapigram4086
    @hoseapigram4086 5 лет назад +3

    2:05
    P-head's blinks

  • @blueberry6036
    @blueberry6036 7 лет назад +11

    0:56 why so many stars?
    (meanwhile there are 50 stars on the American flag and god knows how many stars there on the sky some nights)

  • @kadenvanciel9335
    @kadenvanciel9335 5 месяцев назад

    I need to remember that beginning person is Bill Blass.

  • @kadenvanciel9335
    @kadenvanciel9335 10 лет назад +3

    There was already a video of this, called, "The Origins of the PBS Logos", but it has already been deleted.

    • @kadenvanciel9335
      @kadenvanciel9335 9 лет назад +1

      Also, the animation sequences of this video appear to be by Chuck Jones, animator for the Tom and Jerry/Looney Tunes/Dr. Seuss cartoons back in the 60's/70's years.

    • @Nickolasthegamer492
      @Nickolasthegamer492 8 лет назад +3

      stars to bird to p head

    • @DanknDerpyGamer
      @DanknDerpyGamer Год назад

      @@kadenvanciel9335 Don't forget many Looney Tunes and/or Merrie Melodies cartoons!

  • @logancasey1635
    @logancasey1635 6 месяцев назад

    PBS logo from 1971-1984

  • @hoseapigram4086
    @hoseapigram4086 5 лет назад +3

    2:00
    PBS

  • @voidz5726
    @voidz5726 9 месяцев назад

    2:21 2:27 the first pbs stop Motion

  • @PaulIsTheKillingestOnYT
    @PaulIsTheKillingestOnYT 10 лет назад +15

    Although successful, he failed to recognize the need to differentiate PBS from other networks. While the big three were about ratings, PBS was about people and programming. Chermayeff and Geismar took Lubalin's Everyman, flipped it to face the future, (as they did with the NBC peacock) repeated the outline, and turned it into Everyone, which is basically PBS's audience and benefactor.
    Lubalin's logo was nothing more than just mere letters with weird shapes and a P-head that faces to the past . But still, a veritable effort.

    • @kadenvanciel9335
      @kadenvanciel9335 8 лет назад +4

      That's YOUR opinion. How YOU guys see the logos as scary are not how I see them. The P-head was facing those directions because of political views. Left for democrats(liberals), and right for republicans(conservatives).

    • @BCOPTV
      @BCOPTV 7 лет назад +2

      And the colors. And the 1984 design supposedly had red, white and blue.

    • @Higolmon
      @Higolmon 6 лет назад +2

      Paul Gumagay didn't you see in the video that he considerd have the P facing forward but that's would have made it nose touching the b in an akward way and with the chermyeff and geismar they could have just easly use the P from the original logo without modifying it other then flipping it but that would have made it very flat and boring

    • @kadenvanciel9335
      @kadenvanciel9335 6 лет назад +3

      Could that be why they added what logo experts call the split?

    • @polytri6495
      @polytri6495 6 лет назад +2

      this is the best logo EVER tho

  • @blueity.
    @blueity. 5 лет назад +4

    pbs 1979 got at red head 2:01

  • @anthonyaddison2383
    @anthonyaddison2383 4 года назад +4

    cool.

  • @Alexs23743
    @Alexs23743 2 года назад +4

    The NOO YAWK/JOISEY is strong with this man.
    Becomes hilarious when you realize that the "P-head" has been facing right since 1984. So, PBS eventually would get its wish. ^^

  • @thenew30303
    @thenew30303 Год назад

    an incredible video

  • @dynahzm
    @dynahzm 9 месяцев назад

    i thought this was about the 1984 p-head split logo at first

  • @NECHOII
    @NECHOII 8 лет назад +7

    *0:22** IF THAT WAS TEN YEARS AGO FROM THIS MADE, THIS WOULD'VE CAME OUT IN 1981!*

    • @eggy543
      @eggy543 7 лет назад +1

      NECHO II Excatly.

    • @jadsi
      @jadsi 4 года назад

      Ikr

  • @Spike3939-yx
    @Spike3939-yx Месяц назад

    And that, people was how P-head B and S were created.

  • @alalahoward1299
    @alalahoward1299 5 лет назад +1

    KUHT launched 1953

  • @KC_and_Carl
    @KC_and_Carl Год назад +5

    THEY JUST CALLED P-HEAD "THE BLUE MAN" WTF!!!

    • @RQBtv
      @RQBtv 8 месяцев назад

      Who the hell is “they”? Herb never called him the “P-Head”, nobody did until later.

    • @KC_and_Carl
      @KC_and_Carl 8 месяцев назад

      @@RQBtv Sorry. I meant "he" called P-Head the blue man

    • @RQBtv
      @RQBtv 8 месяцев назад

      @@KC_and_Carl I wasn’t mad about the pronouns, just that that’s what the designer himself called him

  • @kadenvanciel9335
    @kadenvanciel9335 8 лет назад +5

    Who's the man at the beginning?

    • @kadenvanciel9335
      @kadenvanciel9335 6 лет назад +2

      And I can assume that the quality of this video makes the voices of Lubalin and Blass "the same"? Of course, the animation and some of the sound effects remind me of the 60's shorts and films animated by Chuck Jones. Ever heard of him?

  • @BCOPTV
    @BCOPTV 7 лет назад +5

    How much is anyone willing to bet that this logo was all of a setup? That PBS was supposedly vague of wanting a "national" brand and the artist who had the common sense thought like the rest of us (like patriotism) and got shot down by the (PC) PBS creative folks? It seemed like PBS was deliberately wanting something to look so bad that they HAD to rebrand in 1984. OTTH PBS's first closing logo was a generic three colored Helvetica like text that was inherited by NET. If they knew PBS was launching, you'd think they'd have a rebrand from the start.

  • @PeterParker-nc5ke
    @PeterParker-nc5ke Месяц назад

    Interesting

  • @TOT2Alternate
    @TOT2Alternate 5 лет назад +3

    Their dream came true in 1984, without the B and the S though...

  • @drakekellystudios
    @drakekellystudios 2 года назад

    👏👏👏👏👏

  • @prismaticbeetle3194
    @prismaticbeetle3194 7 лет назад +6

    its shocking how many semiotic mistakes he made and kept repeating through out the design processes.

    • @stefankjartansson9174
      @stefankjartansson9174  7 лет назад +4

      You're right, it's surprising how many client misses he went through. And then arrived at such a classic. Maybe it's just hyperbole for the cameras? Regardless, it's nice to see when the legends aren't afraid to show that they're human too.

    • @ytjao
      @ytjao 4 года назад +1

      Could you please number those mistakes?

  • @idelsagil9129
    @idelsagil9129 15 дней назад

    0:39

  • @paracline5500
    @paracline5500 3 года назад

    anyone doing graphics in school and was brought here

  • @THK2012
    @THK2012 Год назад +1

    2:25 P-Head Kissing B

  • @johnnyballenatl
    @johnnyballenatl 7 лет назад +8

    Good thing the "Jewish" PBS logo was rejected.

    • @SaraHouck461
      @SaraHouck461 7 лет назад +5

      Good. I agree that the final result deserved to be more representing of the human race itself rather than a certain religious faith.

    • @alalahoward1299
      @alalahoward1299 5 лет назад +2

      PBS didn't know Chanukah

    • @jadstudiosofficial
      @jadstudiosofficial Месяц назад

      @@SaraHouck461you talking about P head?

  • @cartooncookie1isfun372
    @cartooncookie1isfun372 7 месяцев назад

    PBS didnt like cpb's logos i see

  • @dutchessmitchell5871
    @dutchessmitchell5871 6 лет назад +3

    Why The P-head’s Nose On B?

    • @alalahoward1299
      @alalahoward1299 5 лет назад +1

      push it fake good (because of 2D animation)

    • @Vixiental
      @Vixiental Год назад +1

      "He's gonna have his nose right up to B."

    • @Spike3939-yx
      @Spike3939-yx Месяц назад

      *HONK*

  • @krystallily12
    @krystallily12 4 года назад +2

    They should have chosen the 1:39-1:40 logo instead of the sh*tty man logo that is used by users around the internet.