I can't believe we're already at the end of the Troy Saga! What a journey it's been so far. I can't wait to dive into future sagas! Early access to all those videos will be available on Patreon, and early access to this video will be there Monday, May 27th. See you all there!
Hi Peter, I know this is quite early, but when you do Luck Runs Out in the Ocean Saga, I recommend Crashite or Jen's animatic on it. Until recently, Lampycry's was the only complete animatic, which was why other reacters used that one, but for the first watch the animatic can be misleading due to Lampycry's interpretation. Crashite and Jen have made complete animatics and they stay more true to the story. I'm really enjoying your reactions and I hope you enjoy the the Cyclops saga 😊
On a relisten to this song, pay attention to how Athena just belts Miiiiiiind until the end of the song where she's getting comfortable with Odyessus and joins him in his changing notes instead on one solid note
I didn't even notice it till you pointed it out. Athena normally says "mind" on one long note, but changes it the second time she sings alongside ody. Thanks for pointing that out XD
@@piperpanda6587 This is a very cool way for showing Odysseus's friendly influence on Athena. Also returns in Goodbye, where she does start to sing the harmony on "Bye" but then it disappears on the last one, where she ends up just singing it on one note, since she is parting from Odysseus.
Thank you! I pointed this out to my wife ages ago, and nobody on any of the reactions I've seen (which is criminally low) has mentioned this, either reactor or commenter.
She is insanely good. Perfect casting for a Goddess of War. Something about the way she attacks all her notes with such clarity and confidence makes her actually *feel* divine.
Not enough compliments for Teagan's voice, she's such a clear and powerful singer - adds so much to Athena as a character. Crazy good belter (Loved this video, this song is one of my favs)
I didn’t notice the flute before! That’s really cool, because if I remember correctly (I might be wrong), Athena was the one who invented the flute in Greek mythology (and she got made fun of for it…?)
Oh… just did a quick google search: “Athene had invented the flute, and then cast it aside because it distorted the features of the player. Marsyas took it up, and became so skillful as to challenge Apollo”.
Awesome reaction! Something cool about Odysseus' and Athena's harmony you mentioned that you liked is that it starts off with Athena going high and Odysseus doing a run for the first one but by the second Athena changes hers to a run to match Odysseus and harmonize. Indicating she is trying to adapt to him. This is confirmed by Jorge.
I like how you point out that Athena and Odysseus sing the same notes but for her it's easier, just like how he had to strain as a mortal to follow a goddess. I missed that parallel. Looking forward to the next saga.
I just binged your coverage of the Troy Saga and absolutely fell in love with your analysis of the musicality in these pieces. Really hope you go through each of them. The Cyclops Saga is my absolute favorite of them all. Jorge has said on his platforms that he loves to use specific instrumentation to represent each character and their emotions in any given scene. Often using them or certain sounds to foreshadow or convey emotion completely on its own. I'm curious to hear your thoughts as you progress through the sagas. These detailed analyzes make me that much more obsessed 😅
Slight spoiler for the music, but not the plot: --- Every major character in EPIC has a primary instrument(s) associated with them. Piano's so heavy in this song because it's Athena's instrument.
Jorge does this thing with the music in EPIC where each character kind of has both a signature instrument, as well as a musical motif! For Athena, it's the piano. You mention it frequently as well, but the electric guitar is Odysseus's, though Odysseus has two instruments, that being the electric guitar for when he's the commander, and is more prevalent in action segments. His other one is an acoustic guitar/violin, which is used for more softer moments where Odysseus shows more of his vulnerabilities. Another thing he does a lot is for the more mythological characters/gods is that they use more electronic instrumentation in their songs, while he doesn't do it as much for more mortal/human songs throughout the Musical! It's all super cool stuff that I love :)
I want Thunder Bringer, lol (I know it’s not officially out yet, but I have a feeling that song will make Peter change his mind about wanting to play Zeus)
Im loving your analysis, cant _wait_ to see what you have to say about the Cyclops Saga, it contains my favorite 2-part combo (Polyphemus+Survive) & im _soooo_ excited to hear your thoughts on the composition of them!
So excited for you to experience the cyclops saga! It’s intense, starts strong and persists relentless. Thank you for your insightful and keen-eared analysis. You are bringing a whole new level of enjoyment to my (many many) re-listenings!!
There's one instrument that is very relevant to Ancient Greek legends that I'm excited to see if you pick up on it at a certain part in the future because it's a certain character's motif, but the character isn't directly involved at the part I'm referring to, but it's hinting that the character is present.
That bit where you messed with the audio output into the ears was really trippy and cool. This reaction and analysis series is genuinely fascinating and kind of helping me understand basics of how music works. It's great fun, plus this musical is epic
12:28 listening to you here just made me realise that this also serves the plot. Them singing the same note and Odysseus having to strain more to do the same thing as Athena tracks. He is trained by her (or will be) and has to work hard at things that we can presume come more naturally to her or that she is just more experienced in. But more than that, she is a goddess and that alone gives her the upper hand in their dynamic and her singing this melody with more ease underlines that beautifully
Brass instruments feature more heavily in the Ocean Saga, and I'm insanely excited for you to get to that one! Brass function as a bit of a signal there, especially in the songs "Storm" and "Ruthlessness", and I'm excited to see if you can pick up on what that signal might be.
Just wanted to pop in and say there's a reason the piano is so prevalent! Every character in Epic has an instrument assigned to them. Odysseus is the guitar and Athena is the piano. Also, the reason why he loves synth so much, is that it represents magic! Which is why when gods are present in music, it tends to get synth-y cause they're all magical and stuff. Also that ear shifting thing when you were talking about the flutes was super cool! Caught me so offguard.
Every single character has their own instrument assigned to them with the ONLY exception being Oddeysus' crew as a whole. There's also some motifs that foreshadow future events, one you actually hear in this song is the"danger" motif
Seen that the music is speed up or paid quickly and a ticking clock sound is added bcuz his talking with Athena is suppose to be happing in his head within a split second. So it’s all just happening quickly
Watching this video again just to say I binge watched all your analysis videos of the Troy Saga in order, can’t wait to get your take on the next sagas, hope you do!
So from what I know each character, they have their own instruments, so Ody dueting with the guitar in Full speed ahead and Athena with the piano here are great examples When it comes to the background synthetic and orchestral is that 90% of the time its brought it by something more than human, especially when it's not other characters doing those backing vocals So the background synth "voices" here is Athena bringing in her own backing and you'll see it with more character down the line, and in the main cast of character
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hi, first time here. This musical is insane, can wait to see you react to the rest. I dont know if anyone already commented but every major character have a signature instrument. It would be fun to see you try to identify them during the videos.
Excited to see you dive into the other Sagas! Subbed to see more C: I love seeing people appreciate and take a deeper look into the things I already love
Fun fact, almost everyone in the musical has an instrument and riff/motif designated to them. Odysseus' is the guitar (nylon strings for softer moments, electric for when he's being particularly daring or cunning) and Athena's is the piano, which is why the piano and guitar start playing together when Odysseus and Athena get together. There's also a specific "danger motif" that plays whenever danger is nearby (you can hear it in this song!). Plus, Jorge writes the music so that the more gods or magic are involved, the more synths are used. That's half the fun of listening to the musical, is trying to figure out what the music itself is telling you.
New listener to you, are you going to listen to the re-recordings? He just released them. Also, you should look up the Mechanisms "Ulysses Dies at Dawn"
... Thats the way darker take, no polites in sight.... Like zeus ia already a real piece or work in epic, but damned, in favorit son, his laugh still haunts me
Oh my God!! So I've been hearing Athena wrong this entire time. That line she says after Odysseus gets her to reveal herself, I thought it was, "Well done, you lied to me, what's your name?" When it's actually, "Well done, ENLIGHTEN me." But actually both work at that part perfectly because Athena is the goddess of truth. I actually went back, and kinda sang both my "wrong" interpretation and what it actually is, and they work.
Первые пять песен мьюзикла - Сага о Трое. Первые две - конец Троянской войны (как раз конь), далее начинается Одиссея и последствия этой войны. Дальше четыре песни - Сага о Циклопе.
I can't believe we're already at the end of the Troy Saga! What a journey it's been so far. I can't wait to dive into future sagas! Early access to all those videos will be available on Patreon, and early access to this video will be there Monday, May 27th. See you all there!
@PeterBarber What Happened To “Open Arms” The 4th Song In The Troy Saga?
@@ToGgAlt I posted it on Monday!
Yeah can't wait for you to do more sagas
Us little wolves are happy to see that the fanbase is growing. Ill be waiting for future sagas to see your reaction
Hi Peter, I know this is quite early, but when you do Luck Runs Out in the Ocean Saga, I recommend Crashite or Jen's animatic on it. Until recently, Lampycry's was the only complete animatic, which was why other reacters used that one, but for the first watch the animatic can be misleading due to Lampycry's interpretation. Crashite and Jen have made complete animatics and they stay more true to the story. I'm really enjoying your reactions and I hope you enjoy the the Cyclops saga 😊
On a relisten to this song, pay attention to how Athena just belts Miiiiiiind until the end of the song where she's getting comfortable with Odyessus and joins him in his changing notes instead on one solid note
I didn't even notice it till you pointed it out. Athena normally says "mind" on one long note, but changes it the second time she sings alongside ody. Thanks for pointing that out XD
@@piperpanda6587 This is a very cool way for showing Odysseus's friendly influence on Athena. Also returns in Goodbye, where she does start to sing the harmony on "Bye" but then it disappears on the last one, where she ends up just singing it on one note, since she is parting from Odysseus.
Thank you! I pointed this out to my wife ages ago, and nobody on any of the reactions I've seen (which is criminally low) has mentioned this, either reactor or commenter.
He influences her to become more playful
The piano is actually the instrument that represents Athena in this musical! Whenever she's present you can hear a piano :))
that and the non instument called a clock
one of the reasons I love this song is because of how CLEAR and POWERFUL Athena's vocalist is and it makes me so JEALOUS
She is insanely good. Perfect casting for a Goddess of War. Something about the way she attacks all her notes with such clarity and confidence makes her actually *feel* divine.
So impressiv!!!
My personal favorite and point of envy is scylla, but plain from technike, controll, depth, expression, damned teagan rocks
@@CaelinusTeagan Earley is spectacular! She makes some of her own music under the name Te/Mo too
I just realized that Odysseus' motif comes in during the section where he's fanboying over Athena!
omg good catch!
Not enough compliments for Teagan's voice, she's such a clear and powerful singer - adds so much to Athena as a character. Crazy good belter
(Loved this video, this song is one of my favs)
I didn’t notice the flute before! That’s really cool, because if I remember correctly (I might be wrong), Athena was the one who invented the flute in Greek mythology (and she got made fun of for it…?)
Oh… just did a quick google search: “Athene had invented the flute, and then cast it aside because it distorted the features of the player. Marsyas took it up, and became so skillful as to challenge Apollo”.
Awesome reaction! Something cool about Odysseus' and Athena's harmony you mentioned that you liked is that it starts off with Athena going high and Odysseus doing a run for the first one but by the second Athena changes hers to a run to match Odysseus and harmonize. Indicating she is trying to adapt to him. This is confirmed by Jorge.
I like how you point out that Athena and Odysseus sing the same notes but for her it's easier, just like how he had to strain as a mortal to follow a goddess. I missed that parallel. Looking forward to the next saga.
CYCLOPS UP NEXT BROTHER
Yay!!!😮
Then [Joke redacted for spoilers] (if you haven’t and aren’t Peter, look up Mortius and Casper doing saga 3)
Nobody hurts you like Odysseus.
hehehehehehehehehe
CASPER
I just binged your coverage of the Troy Saga and absolutely fell in love with your analysis of the musicality in these pieces. Really hope you go through each of them. The Cyclops Saga is my absolute favorite of them all. Jorge has said on his platforms that he loves to use specific instrumentation to represent each character and their emotions in any given scene. Often using them or certain sounds to foreshadow or convey emotion completely on its own. I'm curious to hear your thoughts as you progress through the sagas. These detailed analyzes make me that much more obsessed 😅
Fully planning to get through the entire work!
Slight spoiler for the music, but not the plot:
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Every major character in EPIC has a primary instrument(s) associated with them. Piano's so heavy in this song because it's Athena's instrument.
I can’t wait for Circe and Underworld saga. It’s gonna be a bit before we get there, but I really enjoyed those songs.
Cant wait for thunderbringer with his reaction to zeus in thw horse and the infant
Jorge does this thing with the music in EPIC where each character kind of has both a signature instrument, as well as a musical motif! For Athena, it's the piano. You mention it frequently as well, but the electric guitar is Odysseus's, though Odysseus has two instruments, that being the electric guitar for when he's the commander, and is more prevalent in action segments. His other one is an acoustic guitar/violin, which is used for more softer moments where Odysseus shows more of his vulnerabilities.
Another thing he does a lot is for the more mythological characters/gods is that they use more electronic instrumentation in their songs, while he doesn't do it as much for more mortal/human songs throughout the Musical! It's all super cool stuff that I love :)
The piano is Athena's main instrument, so that's why Jay uses it so much in her songs.
Just waiting for Ruthlessness
Same
I want Thunder Bringer, lol (I know it’s not officially out yet, but I have a feeling that song will make Peter change his mind about wanting to play Zeus)
@@VictoriaStarrattwhy would it, the song is amazing!
@@SingingSealRiana the lewd tones
Im loving your analysis, cant _wait_ to see what you have to say about the Cyclops Saga, it contains my favorite 2-part combo (Polyphemus+Survive) & im _soooo_ excited to hear your thoughts on the composition of them!
Coming very, very soon!
So excited for you to experience the cyclops saga! It’s intense, starts strong and persists relentless. Thank you for your insightful and keen-eared analysis. You are bringing a whole new level of enjoyment to my (many many) re-listenings!!
There's one instrument that is very relevant to Ancient Greek legends that I'm excited to see if you pick up on it at a certain part in the future because it's a certain character's motif, but the character isn't directly involved at the part I'm referring to, but it's hinting that the character is present.
Anyone that is caught up I would imagine know what I'm referring to.
That bit where you messed with the audio output into the ears was really trippy and cool. This reaction and analysis series is genuinely fascinating and kind of helping me understand basics of how music works. It's great fun, plus this musical is epic
Glad to hear that!
12:28 listening to you here just made me realise that this also serves the plot. Them singing the same note and Odysseus having to strain more to do the same thing as Athena tracks. He is trained by her (or will be) and has to work hard at things that we can presume come more naturally to her or that she is just more experienced in. But more than that, she is a goddess and that alone gives her the upper hand in their dynamic and her singing this melody with more ease underlines that beautifully
Brass instruments feature more heavily in the Ocean Saga, and I'm insanely excited for you to get to that one! Brass function as a bit of a signal there, especially in the songs "Storm" and "Ruthlessness", and I'm excited to see if you can pick up on what that signal might be.
Just wanted to pop in and say there's a reason the piano is so prevalent! Every character in Epic has an instrument assigned to them. Odysseus is the guitar and Athena is the piano. Also, the reason why he loves synth so much, is that it represents magic! Which is why when gods are present in music, it tends to get synth-y cause they're all magical and stuff.
Also that ear shifting thing when you were talking about the flutes was super cool! Caught me so offguard.
The production stuff is super interesting but i'd love to hear your take on more of the vocal stuff too!
Every single character has their own instrument assigned to them with the ONLY exception being Oddeysus' crew as a whole. There's also some motifs that foreshadow future events, one you actually hear in this song is the"danger" motif
Seen that the music is speed up or paid quickly and a ticking clock sound is added bcuz his talking with Athena is suppose to be happing in his head within a split second. So it’s all just happening quickly
Love your R&As! Who knew there was so much to learn about music in an animated video!
Watching this video again just to say I binge watched all your analysis videos of the Troy Saga in order, can’t wait to get your take on the next sagas, hope you do!
This is one of my favorite songs. I love how much you're geeking out about it too ❤️🔥
So from what I know each character, they have their own instruments, so Ody dueting with the guitar in Full speed ahead and Athena with the piano here are great examples
When it comes to the background synthetic and orchestral is that 90% of the time its brought it by something more than human, especially when it's not other characters doing those backing vocals
So the background synth "voices" here is Athena bringing in her own backing and you'll see it with more character down the line, and in the main cast of character
I was so excited when I saw you posted this! Please do the rest of the show!! :DD
Peter, you have unlocked the listening ability that I had in high school. I lost it after the first semester of college when orchestra wasn’t a sense of community anymore, but a sense of competition that I did not want. Thank you for unlocking this treasured ability, but I had forgotten I had.❤
hi, first time here. This musical is insane, can wait to see you react to the rest. I dont know if anyone already commented but every major character have a signature instrument. It would be fun to see you try to identify them during the videos.
Excited to see you dive into the other Sagas! Subbed to see more C: I love seeing people appreciate and take a deeper look into the things I already love
Hope you react to more of the epic saga? though it is not entirely out yet.
Fun fact, almost everyone in the musical has an instrument and riff/motif designated to them. Odysseus' is the guitar (nylon strings for softer moments, electric for when he's being particularly daring or cunning) and Athena's is the piano, which is why the piano and guitar start playing together when Odysseus and Athena get together. There's also a specific "danger motif" that plays whenever danger is nearby (you can hear it in this song!). Plus, Jorge writes the music so that the more gods or magic are involved, the more synths are used. That's half the fun of listening to the musical, is trying to figure out what the music itself is telling you.
I still can’t unhear “well done you lied to me what’s your name?” I refuse to accept the real lyrics lol
I have thw hwad canon, he only reworked the album so her delivery wpuls bw a big clearer there😂
FYI - In your Epic the Musical Playlist on your channel, Open Arms and Warrior of the Mind are out of order.
Thank you Peter for another amazing analysis ❤
What was everyone's favourite song for this Saga?
In this Saga I think "Full Speed Ahead" is my favourite - it's a tough choice though.
To Listen too horse and infant, cause zeus, to sing, just a man
You should colab with Caleb Hyles for I'm Just A Man.
The thing is every single person has a different instrument with them.
I didn’t realize there were flutes in the song! (Benefits of someone who actually knows about music commenting on it I guess)
Yeees, the best animation for warrior of the mind! 👏👌 Their design for Athena is so awesome 👍
A different instrument was assigned to each character. Piano was for Athena.
The "pop anthem" part of this song sounds like a Ke$ha song.
This was fun
Hey, just to let you know your playlist has the order of this and "Open Arms" mixed up.
Was that laugh the danger motif???
New listener to you, are you going to listen to the re-recordings? He just released them. Also, you should look up the Mechanisms "Ulysses Dies at Dawn"
... Thats the way darker take, no polites in sight.... Like zeus ia already a real piece or work in epic, but damned, in favorit son, his laugh still haunts me
@@SingingSealRiana favorite son is one of my favorite songs
There are soo many more songs.. please do them all..next one is the cyclops saga
Need to do the next saga.
Oh my God!! So I've been hearing Athena wrong this entire time. That line she says after Odysseus gets her to reveal herself, I thought it was, "Well done, you lied to me, what's your name?" When it's actually, "Well done, ENLIGHTEN me." But actually both work at that part perfectly because Athena is the goddess of truth. I actually went back, and kinda sang both my "wrong" interpretation and what it actually is, and they work.
Can you do an analysis of Queensryche , "Take hold of the Flame" live in Japan
The piano is mostly playing Athena's lietmotif
I can't wait for you to react to the cyclops saga! ❤❤
Ah, bump's on the LEFT earbud
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Cyclops saga please
Just recorded for all of it a few days ago
Plz react to
Jungkook Euphoria Iive Japan Performance
Приветик из России,ты супер!!!❤❤❤мой английский не идеален,а что за Троя?не поняла в комментариях
the troy saga is over, he is moving to the cyclops saga. (two separate parts of the overall story, like chapters in a book or like acts in a play)
Первые пять песен мьюзикла - Сага о Трое. Первые две - конец Троянской войны (как раз конь), далее начинается Одиссея и последствия этой войны.
Дальше четыре песни - Сага о Циклопе.