If Bungie feels they can continue to make money, they will continue to make content. Really curious to how this all shakes out, and how the community reacts in real time.
Yes we’re back! Bungie actually has MORE people working on D2 now than before the layoffs because they moved people off other IP projects to support D2
Hard to say. Great news to hear they have stuff planned and a road map is nice, but like he said the population is scary low right now and they wont keep investing if it stays that way. Let’s hope it brings people back.
Like others have already stated, I will start to get hype when I see things in a video that i can look at and scrutinize with my eyes. All of this sounds good, but how many times have they given us a lawyered response or roadmap for it all to just fail.
I mean it kinda sounds like they might be going back to something similar to the model they had when D2 released and the new expansions are curse of Osiris size. My other concern is how are they going to get new players invested in the game when Bungie puts the majority of their game into a “content vault” only to make players pay for repolished content that they’ve already paid for…
I kinda feel like forsaken/ Taken king were large expansions and we’ve been getting medium sized or when it comes to witch queen and Final shape I’d consider the upper end of medium.
Actions speak louder then words they said we’d get crucible stuff and I’m still waiting for more maps and modes though I’m excited to see this and see the future because finally something different even if it’s bad I’ll be happy that they stepped out side the box a little bit
Just need to invest in PvP and I’m not 100% sure I see that here. One trials weapons an ‘episode’ doesn’t invest in the replayable content that the game offers
exactly which is why i havent bought final shape as destiny mainly pvp player if i dont see them cracking down on pvp balance and adding important features like map voting or more trials loot. Like stupid abiltties need to be tuned down and weapons need to be more important not just high impact pulse meta. Add more ways to reduce primary flinch. Pretty much they have endless options but untill i see them happen im not spending nay money bruh lol
Bungie has to proove they can be trusted, prices are too high, sick of grinding for old weapons, bring in new exotics not 10 year old guns, work on toxicity of player base, no more time gating, improve drop rates for materials, the list is huge
For me it's all about the price tbh. Destiny IS a grossly expensive game, if these new expansions are 50$-100$pack every time, i'm out. Will they drop the price? I hope... But with Dungeon keys still in the game i doubt so
Sounds very cool (from a lapsed player perspective too, havent really played since just before witch queen launched). My only thought is they should be doing this with a new game. Let it feel completely new. D2 era should be over, this could have been the new direction for a D3 era. There hasnt been a real fresh jumping on point in 7 years and people were very willing to jump in for D2 launch (which could have been incredibly successful if the game had launched in a better place). It would be a chance to onboard new players and old players with a new direction without any of the growing pains D2 went through. A chance to fix/avoid many of the fundamental problems of D2. Could be a good chance to possibly even go back to the Destiny 1 artstyle so many miss. A chance to build systems from the ground up instead of layering over and over again on top of old systems.
I mean you got a point, problem is, if they start d3 than there will be an upset within the community. People just spent over 250+ on donations for an emblem. People just committed to MOTW/AOTW for emblems. If d3 was happening there wouldn’t be events involving money like this. Otherwise it will upset a lot of players and cause unwanted problems with future money emblems. This is just one problem..
@@freshjuice8289 Thats part of my thinking on the soft reset part. If they made a D3 a nice idea could be to transfer all emblems from both D1 and D2 to D3. Any emblem you had on ur account in both games would be immediately available in D3. I do think in terms of loot people are way too attached to their loot. People survived D1 -> D2, they could do it again. And part of the fun of Destiny is earning loot (although imo there has become way too much dependancy developed in the Destiny community on that aspect that they forget to have fun and enjoy things - which is partly how they get exploited) and with a new game EVERYTHING is new and feels fresh (even including returning weapons/armour).
It sounds like they are returning to the destiny 1 model. To be honest, the dlcs from 1 was great, but only one per year had a massive content drop. So, it's more or less just a few things then a big drop.
If I was a destiny streamer I’d look for another game destiny literally my favorite game ever used to log on every day now it’s just a few days a week reset to play 3 games of comp to get my roses the gm wanna finish my conqueror and trials wanna keep my flawless streak going 10 weeks not that good love playing pvp and enjoy running gms and dungeons with friends but I can’t convince anyone to log on anymore the light is too far down the tunnel and there’s actually quite a lot of good games out rn been enjoying a lot of them but can’t find a single pvp experience that could even be a 99 cent destiny it’s night and day I’ll never complain about the destiny sandbox again getting one shot sniped in the foot in cod and 3 tapped from a rapid fire submachine from 60 meters away constantly have people spawn trap and spawn behind you reminded me why I haven’t enjoyed pvp in cod since black ops 1 fort is fun in spurts with friends but as far as pvp there will never be a game as good as destiny even tho yall jack it’s not a pvp game I just love that I feel that I have control of the outcome for most of the time although recently ik as soon as I load into a trials match whether im gonna win or lose but as far as the gun fights for the most part I can control the risk of getting a kill or getting killed with movement and large amount of health haven’t been able to play 3 stack since mid light fall cause of the low player pop light fall sold amazing because how good witch queen was final shape didn’t sell as good cause of how bad lightfall was these filler episodes no one cares about there like maybe 5 destiny lore heads that play this game that actually care about maya sunderesh and whatever they’re trying to do and the 2nd and 3 rd episode expect more of the same and the trials pop now is so bad during peak times there’s like 2k people playing solo 1k if you’re lucky playing duo and the same sweats running carries or sweaty 3 stacks with a pop of like 500 theres 2 serviceable pvp weapons in the trials pool why play unless you care about flawless and your trials report same thing with gms really should refresh the pool with new and old weapons every episode give people a reason to log on each week but my worry is by the time they’re ready to release this no one gonna be playing or care and they’ll have to postpone it and then it’ll be a question of do we keep the servers on can’t give us 2 out of last 3 years just being filler to meet their bs 10 year goal lightfall should’ve got downsized and combined with final shape introduce strand and than prismatic would’ve been seamless and purposeful but I can’t blame players for being mad at looking at giant hole in the traveler for a year and a half knowing the big bad was in there and we just had to wait made people feel like why did we even do this if they did that without time gating crazy first half of the year light fall second half of the year final shape but kept it as one continuous piece updated all the loot pools add artifice and the ability to get old adepts we’d be in the golden age rn but they missed there mark and by the time this rolls around I think it’ll be too late and who wants to go through the bungo grocery list format while waiting for it only fix now after those misses imo is a entire new game in the destiny universe maybe a prequel sequel or something sorry for the insane rant but those are my honest opinions on the shape and future of destiny
Its too late, too many people left the game. If they aren't making money, they wont continue. This roadmap really kicks off next year, the new season models wont keep players that long, its incredibly boring and bland. No new loot worth grinding, pvp is in a terrible state, they wont change matchmaking, trials is terrible, the loot is terrible, the game is just incredibly boring. This news should have came weeks after the final shape, or their should have been like a teaser scene at the end of final shape to get things started. I dont see people sticking around playing destiny for a year until the new expansions drop.
I disagree. Maybe they just had too many of the wrong people working on destiny. Kind of like when Elon cleaned out Twitter. A person might be great at developing a game and horrible and being a manager of the business part. While you don’t want to lay anyone off maybe they just had too many people doing jobs that didn’t require that many
Only way they could ever get me back is give me a mex level fully kitted character with every weapon, gear materials ect. There way to much catching up for new players and they can’t just play the game.
Dude, everytime we have an insight like this they do nothing but say the same shit over and over. Using the same words, same same same. I’m not hyped for this. They will just fuck it up like every other expansion they release.
They only restricted Trials from free to play to deter cheaters. I think they'll use Destiny to rinse money from a mobile version of it via micro transactions.
Bro, they're literally just using all the buzzwords cause they had the biggest fall off ever of players, saying that they want to turn destiny into a rogue like is literally just lies because its not destiny then.
Are your thoughts on Destiny better,worse or indifferent after that reveal? 🤔
Im happy about it. PvP main
@@GernaderJake worse,
same, for me to come back id want a fresh experience with a fresh start and a complete progression wipe.
Better for sure
If Bungie feels they can continue to make money, they will continue to make content. Really curious to how this all shakes out, and how the community reacts in real time.
I'm cautiously optimistic.
Soooooo are we back??? Or no?
No, if they added destiny 3, the game is completely death, because the money I payed for dlcs and seasons are gone,
ish, actions speak more than words
Yes we’re back! Bungie actually has MORE people working on D2 now than before the layoffs because they moved people off other IP projects to support D2
We could be back
Hard to say. Great news to hear they have stuff planned and a road map is nice, but like he said the population is scary low right now and they wont keep investing if it stays that way. Let’s hope it brings people back.
Like others have already stated, I will start to get hype when I see things in a video that i can look at and scrutinize with my eyes. All of this sounds good, but how many times have they given us a lawyered response or roadmap for it all to just fail.
I mean it kinda sounds like they might be going back to something similar to the model they had when D2 released and the new expansions are curse of Osiris size. My other concern is how are they going to get new players invested in the game when Bungie puts the majority of their game into a “content vault” only to make players pay for repolished content that they’ve already paid for…
I kinda feel like forsaken/ Taken king were large expansions and we’ve been getting medium sized or when it comes to witch queen and Final shape I’d consider the upper end of medium.
Actions speak louder then words they said we’d get crucible stuff and I’m still waiting for more maps and modes though I’m excited to see this and see the future because finally something different even if it’s bad I’ll be happy that they stepped out side the box a little bit
Just need to invest in PvP and I’m not 100% sure I see that here. One trials weapons an ‘episode’ doesn’t invest in the replayable content that the game offers
exactly which is why i havent bought final shape as destiny mainly pvp player if i dont see them cracking down on pvp balance and adding important features like map voting or more trials loot. Like stupid abiltties need to be tuned down and weapons need to be more important not just high impact pulse meta. Add more ways to reduce primary flinch. Pretty much they have endless options but untill i see them happen im not spending nay money bruh lol
Destiny a PVE game
Are we baxk frl??🥳🥳😭😭
Expansion=DLC. Looks like Nothing is changing besides new stuff to grind
Bungie has to proove they can be trusted, prices are too high, sick of grinding for old weapons, bring in new exotics not 10 year old guns, work on toxicity of player base, no more time gating, improve drop rates for materials, the list is huge
For me it's all about the price tbh. Destiny IS a grossly expensive game, if these new expansions are 50$-100$pack every time, i'm out. Will they drop the price? I hope... But with Dungeon keys still in the game i doubt so
We have to wait and see.
Really wish they’d fix match making in trials to say the least
Same. If you ever want to run some trials, let me know! Currently at a 1.3KDA in regular crucible so slightly above average 🤓
Just find an LFG
nothing wrong with the trials matchmaking
Decent looking changes- they didn’t give us a ton but at least there is a future
Did he load up D1 or something? Im confused
The biggest problem to D2 is their pay to lose pvp structure. It simply turns casual gamers off. There goes your🤑
Sounds very cool (from a lapsed player perspective too, havent really played since just before witch queen launched). My only thought is they should be doing this with a new game. Let it feel completely new. D2 era should be over, this could have been the new direction for a D3 era. There hasnt been a real fresh jumping on point in 7 years and people were very willing to jump in for D2 launch (which could have been incredibly successful if the game had launched in a better place). It would be a chance to onboard new players and old players with a new direction without any of the growing pains D2 went through. A chance to fix/avoid many of the fundamental problems of D2. Could be a good chance to possibly even go back to the Destiny 1 artstyle so many miss. A chance to build systems from the ground up instead of layering over and over again on top of old systems.
I mean you got a point, problem is, if they start d3 than there will be an upset within the community. People just spent over 250+ on donations for an emblem. People just committed to MOTW/AOTW for emblems. If d3 was happening there wouldn’t be events involving money like this. Otherwise it will upset a lot of players and cause unwanted problems with future money emblems. This is just one problem..
@@freshjuice8289 Thats part of my thinking on the soft reset part. If they made a D3 a nice idea could be to transfer all emblems from both D1 and D2 to D3. Any emblem you had on ur account in both games would be immediately available in D3.
I do think in terms of loot people are way too attached to their loot. People survived D1 -> D2, they could do it again. And part of the fun of Destiny is earning loot (although imo there has become way too much dependancy developed in the Destiny community on that aspect that they forget to have fun and enjoy things - which is partly how they get exploited) and with a new game EVERYTHING is new and feels fresh (even including returning weapons/armour).
It sounds like they are returning to the destiny 1 model. To be honest, the dlcs from 1 was great, but only one per year had a massive content drop. So, it's more or less just a few things then a big drop.
Looks like they try to do 2 in 2025
They have promised stuff that players got excited for and it ended up still pissing the community off. I miss D1.
Dude. I don't care about much else. I want OG leviathan back.
So we're going past the Sol system. Love that.
Does anyone in here ever think they are gonna bring back the palindrome ? thats one I don’t have and I need it lol
This is an acceptance letter saying that they know Marathon will not be a valid source of income in the future LOL
Sounds like they are t just trying to stop players leaving, hers a thought stop recycling old guns bring new ones in
If I was a destiny streamer I’d look for another game destiny literally my favorite game ever used to log on every day now it’s just a few days a week reset to play 3 games of comp to get my roses the gm wanna finish my conqueror and trials wanna keep my flawless streak going 10 weeks not that good love playing pvp and enjoy running gms and dungeons with friends but I can’t convince anyone to log on anymore the light is too far down the tunnel and there’s actually quite a lot of good games out rn been enjoying a lot of them but can’t find a single pvp experience that could even be a 99 cent destiny it’s night and day I’ll never complain about the destiny sandbox again getting one shot sniped in the foot in cod and 3 tapped from a rapid fire submachine from 60 meters away constantly have people spawn trap and spawn behind you reminded me why I haven’t enjoyed pvp in cod since black ops 1 fort is fun in spurts with friends but as far as pvp there will never be a game as good as destiny even tho yall jack it’s not a pvp game I just love that I feel that I have control of the outcome for most of the time although recently ik as soon as I load into a trials match whether im gonna win or lose but as far as the gun fights for the most part I can control the risk of getting a kill or getting killed with movement and large amount of health haven’t been able to play 3 stack since mid light fall cause of the low player pop light fall sold amazing because how good witch queen was final shape didn’t sell as good cause of how bad lightfall was these filler episodes no one cares about there like maybe 5 destiny lore heads that play this game that actually care about maya sunderesh and whatever they’re trying to do and the 2nd and 3 rd episode expect more of the same and the trials pop now is so bad during peak times there’s like 2k people playing solo 1k if you’re lucky playing duo and the same sweats running carries or sweaty 3 stacks with a pop of like 500 theres 2 serviceable pvp weapons in the trials pool why play unless you care about flawless and your trials report same thing with gms really should refresh the pool with new and old weapons every episode give people a reason to log on each week but my worry is by the time they’re ready to release this no one gonna be playing or care and they’ll have to postpone it and then it’ll be a question of do we keep the servers on can’t give us 2 out of last 3 years just being filler to meet their bs 10 year goal lightfall should’ve got downsized and combined with final shape introduce strand and than prismatic would’ve been seamless and purposeful but I can’t blame players for being mad at looking at giant hole in the traveler for a year and a half knowing the big bad was in there and we just had to wait made people feel like why did we even do this if they did that without time gating crazy first half of the year light fall second half of the year final shape but kept it as one continuous piece updated all the loot pools add artifice and the ability to get old adepts we’d be in the golden age rn but they missed there mark and by the time this rolls around I think it’ll be too late and who wants to go through the bungo grocery list format while waiting for it only fix now after those misses imo is a entire new game in the destiny universe maybe a prequel sequel or something sorry for the insane rant but those are my honest opinions on the shape and future of destiny
And I’ve been playing destiny since vanilla d1
@@josephborrero3713how can you be playing since D1, and still write a 400 word run on sentence? Are you a bot?
Damn the bots are goin CRAZY here 😂😂😂
Its too late, too many people left the game. If they aren't making money, they wont continue. This roadmap really kicks off next year, the new season models wont keep players that long, its incredibly boring and bland. No new loot worth grinding, pvp is in a terrible state, they wont change matchmaking, trials is terrible, the loot is terrible, the game is just incredibly boring. This news should have came weeks after the final shape, or their should have been like a teaser scene at the end of final shape to get things started. I dont see people sticking around playing destiny for a year until the new expansions drop.
I disagree.
Maybe they just had too many of the wrong people working on destiny. Kind of like when Elon cleaned out Twitter.
A person might be great at developing a game and horrible and being a manager of the business part.
While you don’t want to lay anyone off maybe they just had too many people doing jobs that didn’t require that many
Only way they could ever get me back is give me a mex level fully kitted character with every weapon, gear materials ect. There way to much catching up for new players and they can’t just play the game.
You'll have everything with shit rolls
Dude, everytime we have an insight like this they do nothing but say the same shit over and over. Using the same words, same same same. I’m not hyped for this. They will just fuck it up like every other expansion they release.
Free to play, aka no PvP
They only restricted Trials from free to play to deter cheaters.
I think they'll use Destiny to rinse money from a mobile version of it via micro transactions.
Hard to get excited that 30% of the workforce has gone that would produce content for D2, not going to be anything quality produced.
Games absolutely dead whatever they do same as your RUclips channel with more content crying about a 10 year old game than actually playing it 😂
It’s very trash
Bro, they're literally just using all the buzzwords cause they had the biggest fall off ever of players, saying that they want to turn destiny into a rogue like is literally just lies because its not destiny then.
Another multi year saga of Jake still being weird to people who are just better at PvP than him
Sounds like they are t just trying to stop players leaving, hers a thought stop recycling old guns bring new ones in