yeah there are way too many instances of this happening for all kinds of content. maybe a fat ass lawsuit will be incentive for them to fix the issue, but I doubt it
in a weird way, i think it’s comforting knowing that a billion-dollar company goes through the same customer service process as any other youtuber. we may not all be treated equally well, but it’s still cool to know we’re all treated equally like shit. 💀
This is one of those rare times that siding with Bungie, a multi billion dollar company, in the process of suing someone is actually seen as a good thing.
I always find it tough to side with mega corporations, so for this one I think I'll just be an impartial observer. Can't really defend the actions of the wanker who filed 96 fraudulent DMCA notices, but I find it just as hard to cheer for some faceless business to ruin his life.
@@jornavyr2459 yeah well at least being an impartial observer is better than the usual “hate both sides for being faceless mega corps” thing. Y’all remember when epic sued apple when epic was the one who broke the contract and all these brainlits were like “oh epic. Go epic” when both were hyper evil megacorps? That was funny.
He broke RUclips's rules, got warned, kept breaking rules, got banned, and decided to take it out on...a different company and innocent content creators? What a terrible villain arc
@@ReservedSpot never said he was cool. Just saying he was good at what he did or else he wouldn't have affected that many lives. And he probably didn't use VPN because he wanted to be known. You just can't read is all.
The fact that a million dollar gamer household name like Bungie had to go through customer service like the rest of us is hysterical and maybe what weve needed all along, YT so powerful that not one single company can go at them alone, let alone go at google. I feel like this is still the beginning....or the end of a phase
Shouldn't that be the case, though? Everyone always seems to be complaining about preferential treatment for those that have money and power and then somehow those same people call it a failure when an entity with money and power is treated the same as everyone else.
@@Beatyofeet32 too blind to see their hypocrisy. youtube monetization as a whole is unfair, its just funny they pay so little mind to anyone. nobody can really make them care, so its weird to assume they would. less work = more money.
@@Beatyofeet32 no the case should be that RUclips improves their customer service and fix their broken system, but Google controls the flow of information on behalf of the existing liberal regime so don’t expect any sort of action to be taken against them
I don't understand how easy it is to copyright strike and take down videos...??? It's like anybody can do that without even having the right to do it and you lose momentum and a lot of views, and ultimately, a lot of money if someone just decides to that he or she wants to take down your content. Makes absolutely no sense.
@@lajeandom anyone can do it. does not mean they have a right to do it or will have proof that its legit. they have to take every claim as fact till they prove its not or they can get repercussion from those legit claims that get through. youtube is so understaffed and soaking up all the money they dont have people to make sure each claim is legit.
“Bungie went through customer service and didn’t get the issue solved for days” not only does this story show how broken their copyright system is but it shows how incompetent their support system is at the same time. And it’s been this way for a long time already. As for Nick, he simply played with fire and got burned. He also stabbed a lot of people in the back as well, so he’s pretty much getting back the karma he deserves.
yeah RUclips really needs to get their shit together and change the support system and copyright system. And the sad thing is they might only change it now since it involves a company.
bro he didn't "play with fire" lol he straight committed self-immolation and did a scumbag piece of shit thing after getting mad about his channel being disabled, even tho he was literally doing something against copyright law in the first place (music stuff), and then hurt a bunch of creators who had nothing to do with the situation? definitely getting what he deserved lol
As if it wasn't bad enough that he would've gotten shunned by the community and his friends, he also now has to pay 8 MILLION FUCKING DOLLARS... Imagine explaining that to his wife/girlfriend/parents 😭
Hey why did you delete your Discord server that one time? I really enjoyed it. Also Kaya literally says he thinks Furries cause dog rape which is kinda disgusting. My sister is a Furry and she is underaged!
They ought to sue RUclips themselves. All they'd need to do is show that RUclips is purposefully nebulous and ineffective with their systems in pursuit of greater profits, which in turn caused bungie damages - which a reasonable person could foresee happening in this way given RUclipss operational practices.
suing google is not the way to go when it comes to this situation, however it would be so nice if youtube had a reformation, it really is getting old with the bs but they can keep it going with the broken system because no other platform can (or is willing to) do what youtube does
@@Ayuima69 which will happen by its own when? you need to apply some pressure to this behemoth of a platform and it's owners/rules to finally not ignore the problems and as you said, atleast improving their systems
@@Ayuima69 I just want RUclips to be a little bit more open on what problems they are solving, or what their process is. At least the rest of us would be a little bit more reassured that something is actually happening. Instead of silence then update.
As awful as this is, it really just shows how terrible RUclipss copyright system is, that it can ruin hundreds of lives and even an entire company over one angry guy. Reminds me of quantum tv, and yet RUclips still sits there with their hand up their ass doing nothing. Pathetic
Best is they never do anything to solve real problems , guys making death threats, recording themselves with guns and actually harrasing people, they will hit you with the ' this doesn't infringe RUclips policies " you can upload a dead person and RUclips will put it on trendin_ is pathetic
I don't think it can be overstated just how much something like this needed to happen. Google has basically achieved Umbrella Co. levels of sketchy, and only another company had the ability (read: money) to take them to court on even ground. Kinda strange that dude decided to play Get Smart, but I'm not gonna be the one to look a gift horse in the mouth.
My favorite part is that the emails he used to create the fake accounts were also found on one of the cheat sites Bungie sued for making cheats. So this guy was one of the cheaters playing Destiny as well.
@@giwdul5511 honestly that bot is nothing and I'd take that all day long compared to the terrible shit the other ones spew all over every fucking video
The fact that RUclips couldn’t help a massive company, aka the main demographic that RUclips serves, just goes to show they are not only money driven, but genuinely incompetent.
If a company says that they’re “doing it for the advertisers” they’re incompetent, if they’re saying they’re “doing it for the community”, they’re money driven.
Im pretty sure youtube doesn't actually net that much profit if any at all. i think the advertising money goes to server upkeep and creators and little to none go to google. They are using it to work on their neural nets and various AI.
I mean it's because there's no legal obligation for RUclips to do anything about false copyright strikes. All the DMCA/copyright laws require is for hosting sites to respond to the requests within a given time frame and remove the content. People seriously underestimate just how open ended the copyright laws are. Content hosting sites aren't required to ensure the validity of take down requests. They're only required to act upon the requests so long as the requester provides the most basic of information like this guy did and all RUclips is required to do is say "Yep, the information they gave matches the information of who represents this company's IP rights." and approve the take down.
I would like to remind people that Bungie allows all its creators to do a lot of things.They literally have a rule where 80% of your video could be just their content and then you can just speak random bullshit for the rest 20 % and they will allow it.Thats how much they love their community and by far they have the most flexible creator friendly rules.ALSO the soundtrack that Nazo got banned for is allowed to be played in the backround of videos and for everything,you just cant upload it as a song.This guy could have just added backround gameplay of him dying in pvp and he would be completly fine
Hell one of the people they mention was wrongly struck, Promethean, would take recordings in game of the ost so you got the 15-30 minute experience of it instead of the compressed 4 minute samples in the official OST. And this was allowed. Look at his version of First Disciple vs the one on the official Destiny RUclips channel, for example
@@m05513 It was also either him or another channel that would take the painstaking time of finding the music in the channel files, which had multiple instrumental files depending on the situation (reaching a certain part of the map, in battle, out of battle, etc), and *pieced them together* so you could listen to the entire song as it was meant to be heard. All for archival purposes, and they loved the game and its music that much.
@@iasomnium919 yeah the destiny OST community is insane like that. And to think this pathetic excuse of a human tried to pass himself off as one of them. He probably would have gotten to keep his uploads with almost no effort too, considering how much is cut from the official OST, but he couldn't even do the bare minimum. 7.6 million is too kind for him.
out of all the million dollar gaming companies in this world, it feels empowering to know that Bungie is the one that relates to the common goober the most.
I came into this without any knowledge of what the situation was and was ready to be pissed at Bungie. After hearing the story, I did a complete 180 and am glad that someone's putting a fraudster like that in their place, especially if they're going to be threatening peoples' livelihoods!
@@Ellie-gp9dg imagine you work for a company just to write one article a week for a living. You do this without issue, and one week, you get accused for plagiarism with no proof, and your company refuses to pay you after the allegations, so you have no money for that week. You also have no way of proving your Innocence cause nobody in the company listens to insignificant people like that. You think missing a week's pay and doing all that work or nothing doesn't affect your livilihood? Now he did this to 50+ of your coworkers. See the issue?
I’m so glad bungie actually faces problems, first they attack and take down cheats and people who make cheats, and now this. I respect bungie actually putting their foot down when other companies wouldn’t do shit
Been following this since the original takedown wave. One fun fact you missed, once the RUclipsr's name came out, some people in the community started cross-referencing his account with lists of people involved in a large cheating lawsuit. Turns out, he was likely a cheater in Destiny 2. Overall an absolute POS.
@@brandoncook6190 absolutely, yes, it is wrong, no matter how much of a piece of shit the kid is, do they deserve punishment? Yes absolutely, but abduction is too far
My big Q here: why does it take so much for youtubers to get verified, but any random schmuck instantly impersonate a company and fraudyright claim anything on youtube? I feel there should be a verification process for copyright claims
i feel like they should do ID verification or something, seeing as it's a legal process, especially since disputing a strike already doxes the owner of the affected video
@@dopesickdog and more importantly, the side that should have their info shown to the other should be the striker, not the strikee, until the strikee says "I'm not taking down the video, take me to court"
Because lets say you make an album by yourself and dont have a youtube presence or account of any kind, and then you find out someone else is using your content without permission here. How do you prove that you are the real copyright holder in any satisfactory way and get the offenders removed without being stonewalled by the identification process? Its easy to prove you are who you say you are maybe, but harder to prove digitally that you have the authority for the copyright claim. So it has the potential to be just as frustrating on the opposite end for someone being taken advantage of. So the solution is much more complex and theyve opted to make it easier for the strikers than the strikees
this is the same energy as the TV reporters who interview strangers about a killing, when it turned out the person they're interviewing is actually the killer all along lol
If you’re interested in watching a good video on the person this is referring to, look up “The Bizarre Case of Stephen McDaniel” by JCS, I watched it before and it’s a great video (yt deleted my comment with a link to the video)
There is another similar thing happening for years now: There is this weird Australian band that put the entire Super Metroid main menu music as the background for one of their songs and put that on the content ID system. So every person that is playing the game and shows more than a few seconds of main menu music risks getting their ad revenue chopped... Oh and not so fun fact about that: The big video that brought light to the issue got taken down via copyright strike from the company that represents the band.....
Fun Fact: Submitting a complaint via regular channels is 3-30 days depending on the business/industry. Submitting a complaint via social media by directly calling out the business nets you a turnaround time of 48-72 hours.
That's extremely fucked, but I see why. If you go through the backends of a business, nobody else sees the complaint you're submitting, and thus they don't have to care. When you show it to the whole world to see, they have to fix that shit immediately or else they stand to lose business.
Social media managers are blamed if shit goes sideways on Twitter, trends, and its not dealt with promptly. Lawsuit pops up? Well that's money involved, CEO/shareholders panick and the lawyers get a call to go full find-a-b*tch. RUclips's bot support has no one to blame other than the CEO for making their "support" work that way, abd they sure as heck won't officially take that blame, so there's just silence.
Companies should be fined, per day, for not providing real human customer service. I'm tired of having to go to social media backlash to get some damn customer service.
I feel there's a balance between bot and human interaction, and youtube just went full bot. Getting a bot response can work for a time but it can only do so much. Asking to speak to a real person, or being able to escalate to a real person, should always be an option, bots still can't tell images apart, let alone deal with many of the fake copyright notices. I remember them introducing 'youtube heroes' where you could moderate channels, and my first thought was 'they're so bad at taking care of their own company, they're asking their userbase to do their job for them.
@@JadeAnnabelArt RUclips doesn't make money, and has a billion minutes of content uploaded daily, how do you plan on paying people to cover that much content? It's not possible and easy to see that if you had any sort of "critical" thinking skills.
@@BudMasta excuse me, did you just say “RUclips doesn’t make money”? Are you serious? What do you think ads are for? RUclips makes tons of money (Also they are owned by Google, so they could always get money from there). They can definitely hire a large team of human moderators. And they don’t have to moderate every single minute of every single video, just videos that receive content reports and copyright strikes. Funny how you’re saying that the other person has no critical thinking skills.
First off, I think Bungie should still sue RUclips for allowing this shit to happen and not having anything in place to verify that Nick was CsC or whatever company. A single person should not be able to emulate an entire company and cause this kind of shit storm but RUclips is going to act like suing this dude (which they aren't even doing) is enough and nothing needs to be changed, when clearly a SINGLE PERSON can shut down a plethora of content. Yes, an example is made but people with nothing to lose don't give a solitary fuck, they'll do this shit anyways if they just wanna fuck over a company for a week and then the content creators get fucked in the process. This goes beyond just using a little ditty that's blocked like a titty, this shit is unacceptable and as a company better measures need to be taken, they have the coin and they can expand support so someone should bring this shit to their attention cause they're still not seeing it.
It's so funny to me that RUclips is literally a part of Google, by far one of the biggest companies in the world, every single browser like Brave and Opera GX use the google search engine, and they can't even manage to get a support team. Even Doordash has better support than RUclips. It's actually mind blowing that they can think its okay, after all this time. Its been at least a decade this has been an issue. And they couldn't give less of a shit than they currently do. I absolutely despise every company who's "support" is just a link to commonly asked questions, because if my question was commonly asked, I wouldn't be using their support lmao. For me support is a last option compared to simply searching an issue up.
But even if Bungie were to sue RUclips I don’t think it would even accomplish much, since Bungie loses, I mean as big as Bungie is, there is no way they are getting past the fat stack of lawyers that RUclips owns not to mention they Google is RUclips’s parent company, they’ll just run Bungie’s money out to dry at least I think.
You know, this person is absolutely crazy. However, their actions causing Bungie to have issues with RUclips might actually result in a positive change in the system, hopefully.
Not really otherwise they'd be suing RUclips for the 7.6 million $ Personally i want to see big tech duke it out with eachother if we're not getting antitrust breakups / class actions
@@Zuignap "Our support systems we have in place suck? Our copyright system is heavily biased and flawed? Can't reach our department heads easily?" * Breaks dislike button *
Well, a recent lawsuit taught me that what you sue for isn't necessarily what you get. But even if this is reduced to 1 or 2 million, that bully's life is over, and deservedly so. I hope that this suit will go through and Bungie wins, so that in the future stuff like this won't happen anymore. It'd make RUclips a more friendly place to be, because I'd be hugely surprised if this was the only anger-revenge-butthurt takedown troll.
a minor inconvenience a temporary hiccup, bungie themselves have caused more fear for these content creators careers than some guy filing copyright strikes when youtube falsely does them all the time.. bungie took this guys life away becuase they’re a broke company trying to get money wherever they can.. yes what he did was bad but 7 million fucking dollars are you serious?!!! what assets and resources did they spend to remedy this problem? NONE! they wrote a fucking email to youtube that’s it.
@@katzabar it feels pretty niche in comparison to how mainstream it initially was or to other more well known game franchises, but i guess 1 mil+ sales on a single expansion can't really be considered niche at that point
Fr. All I saw was Datto, Aztecross, and many other Destiny RUclipsrs talking about this. But I was surprised to see moist cover it too(I suppose it's because he is also a Destiny player). But yeah, this case has had a profound effect on not just the Destiny community, but the youtuber community too.
it's not about destiny. BUNGIE has been a big name before destiny. Most people know bungie from Halo more than destiny. It's not really that surprising that one of the largest popular developers is being covered by popular youtubers lol
Important additional note to this story. Lord Nazo was a part of a subset of the Destiny community that uploads music to RUclips. Most of Destiny's music isn't published by Bungie, so there is a dedicated community of people who will take tracks from the game and edit them into listenable versions that get posted to RUclips. Lord Nazo was communicating with other members of the same community while he was on his striking spree, absolutely wild scenario. He also would have been totally fine if he hadn't been posting some of the *only* music that Bungie actually published officially. Funny tidbit is that he might have gotten away with it if he hadn't swung too big. Bungie didn't really start taking action until they realized that one their biggest, most brand safe creators ( Aztecross) got hit by a strike that made absolutely no sense.
Byf was one of the first ones hit iirc, and he immediately brought it up to Bungie, who than started to investigate. I don't think that Aztecross was the sole reason, I don't think there was a sole reason other than that Nazo started to do this in the first place. Bungie has always placed a huge focus on their community, and puts in a huge amount of work to protect the community. They are constantly doing charity drives, community interactions, community spotlights, creator spotlights, and have open communication with the community. They even have public employee spotlights to celebrate their staff, and according to glassdoor, this isn't just base level PR. Bungie seems to honestly really care about their people. So someone impersonating them and ruining their community focused image was going to get slapped, even if they avoided some of the biggest names.
Is it bad to wish for a little kid to be abducted? There is this annoying 10 year old that lives next door who harasses not just me but all of the neighbors and rides his fourwheeler way too fast sometimes flipping people off for no reason. Freddy Krueger please help
Just, holy hell. After all this time the little guys are getting their revenge, but this time not on their own but with A massive company. Honestly this is well deserved
This honestly feels like one of the those movies were some guy leaves a trail of destruction thinking he's doing the right thing or its all for the greater good, only the realize come the end that he's entirely lost his way and the damage he's caused is irreversible. Many of music videos that got hit were of music that was never given an official public release from Bungie and the creators who uploaded them were doing it as a means of sharing such music with the Destiny community. But now their gone and we don't even know if they'll come back at all.
5:00 Oh my god yes! I had an issue with my Pixel phone and it was pretty obvious there wasn't a human on the other end of the connection, just Google's AI pumping out search results.
It WOULD have been, if he didn't do it in the most foolish way possible, by practically telling them all exactly how he did it step by step under the guise of "I bet you he did it like this". I mean, there's a difference between being able to know the mind of the perpetrator, and somehow knowing every last minute detail of how they committed the crime to an uncanny degree. "So, he was sitting there at his computer, probably just got finished watching a rerun of Rick and Morty, season 2 episode 4, wearing size nine Nikes, with a red and white stripped polo and some gray dickies... but not the knew kind of dickies, the old kind. You know the kind I'm talking about, the ones that had that little strip of stitching across the knee and the extra pocket on the lower left back pant leg? Then he took a drink from his extra large Coca Cola he had gotten from McDonalds about three hours and 23 minutes ago which was kind of starting to go flat and watered down from the melted ice, as he began to open up his Mozilla Firefox browser to pull up RUclips, which was still out of date two versions because he didn't like some of the new Firefox UI features they had implemented in the previously released version..."
As someone rather on the smaller side of RUclips who does upload Destiny content, it was a scary few days of watching Destiny content creators get striked and possibly losing their channels. Anyone's livelihood could've just been gone, and those were the big boys. But when Bungie themselves got hit as well, that's when the story got absolutely wild because just... how? However, then seeing Bungie's massive support for its community is so loving, while RUclips's joke of system is so sad.
@@codafett bungie treat their community better than 90% other company. Not like bungie is the best but one of good one. They still listen to community.
I'm glad Nick is getting what he deserves. I also heard about that story and I can't blame Bungie. They only wanted to take down RUclips content creators who basically Copy and Paste their sound track and everything because the sound tracks are copy righted which is illegal and then that bozo going on a rampage.
Yeah i get that it shouldn't be allow to simply copy-paste sound track that are copyrighted but what annoying me is when you want to play a game that has copyright music in it you CAN NOT play the game with music on if you plans on uploading it to youtube because you'll get hit by the Content ID bull crap. Imo, it make absolutely no sense that your videos can be hit by "Content ID" while playing the very game the musics have been injected in. Right now i can't play any music or vfx sound track in Need For Speed Hot Pursuit ReMastered because of this dumb reason.
@@The_Worst_Warlock That doesn’t mean their mixing of the tracks are complete or the best available version. Its a problem for example with FF7 Remake’s official soundtrack because it is lacking a lot of tracks and complete versions or extended versions but the copyright owners (SquareEnix) constantly nuke every video of it on the platform via bots/content id/manually, so no extended version, no remixes, no covers, no different mixing of audio, nothing. You either buy the incomplete product or play and capture the game without audio if you want the missing tracks and mix it yourself.
My favourite bit from the legal document from Bungie is "anyone foolish enough to falsely represent us" and calling RUclipss systems a abysmal labyrinth
RUclips as a company has been a joke for some years now. The copyright system is broken, even fake companies claim many videos even from the people who actually own the content, the coding on the site is always so buggy, and even high end companies and youtubers have a hard time getting in touch with anyone. The only reason I am still here is to watch people like you, Charlie. Screw the company I am here for the creators who actually make an effort.
I feel like bungie should sue RUclips instead of this dude. RUclips literally took down multiple videos all because youtube wouldn't take the time to make sure that the copyright claims were real and coming from a genuine company and not some dude pretending to be one
The guy still impersonated a copyright claim company and striked videos and creators who were completely innocent, why shouldn't he be sued? He also played the victim card while stabbing his fellow destiny creators in the back and blamed it all on Bungie, it's fucking vile.
honestly I wish bungie could have the funds to sue RUclips to encourage more of a response to its creator and help, especially during this quantum tv saga that is still unresolved and its crazy how Susan will bow down to big corps when threatened and yet does nothing to help the ones that actually pay their lively hood. its a food chain system that creators like Charlie are treated like bottom of the barrel ants.
Lemme tell ya something. RUclips is a huge loss for google. It doesn't even break even. This is why there will never be an alternative. The only reason google keeps the lights on is because this is the biggest pool of information for algorythms to learn from in the world. They don't really care about the creators.
@@imyourmaster77 can you link me to some of that information... Im making a video and doing content on just this topic. If you would be able to share me with whatever you have/know it would be a huge help... If you want ill share my socials to connect... 🙏
@@imyourmaster77 Where did you get info about youtube being loss for google? Logically it could explain why there is no competition in video hosting but i would be interested in real data\arguments.
You can’t claim you’re making a point while simultaneously pretending to be the victim. That’s like a fireman starting a building fire then putting it out pretending to be a hero and when he’s caught he says I just wanted to show how dangerous hot stuff can be. It’s ridiculous
The 2nd dumbest thing ab this is any hate the community managers got for this. Like Bungie literally encourages streamers and content creators to stream any day 1 raid and Bungie even made a promo for it. Assuming Bungie would issue content claims for gameplay is ridiculous. The only copyright they enforce is stuff their channels posts and soundtracks since there’s already a way to get those
I remember all the articles during the takedowns. Most of them just put the blame on Bungie. It was just after the announcement of the Sony acquisition too…
Check out wargaming lmao before you doubt anything. Bought a community world of warships tournament agreeing not to change anything. Presumably adding carriers and submarines at some point to it, where the tournament existed to exclude those classes. Now they are banning many of the most popular streamers in the tournament from casting it because they have said bad stuff about the company.
Bungie is a company that will literally leave no quarter when it comes to defending their community. Ever since Halo they have been very engaging with the community, creating events, having cool achievements and goals for the players to get, as well as celebrations for anniversaries. For example, they had a 30th anniversary that brought in not only guns similar to the Halo weapons, but also gave the Destiny 2 community the legendary magnum as an exotic, built like a homage to the OG. They even give weekly updates which in itself becomes a little event on seeing what Bungie has been working on. There are very few companies that work in this model at the size they are at and I am grateful they went all out against them. Edit: Because of the whole situation, Bungie actually revised their system to allow music channels to upload old Destiny soundtracks for archival use and revamped the licensing they set up for the content creation to allow it. It goes to show how much they give a damn.
@@skytommy_main Bungie has always been very community focused, obviously this hurts the trust they have with the community a lot, so they took action. there arent many other studios that would do the same as bungie did, beeing open to the issue and suing the shit out of bad actors
They're not protecting the creators, they're protecting their reputation, content creators are bungie's leverage, as content creators spread the word of bungie's product basically for free, business as usual.
11:40 I am one of these other music uploaders affected by this mess. I tought Bungie had started a massive crackdown on OST channels, so i removed all of my Destiny 1 AND Destiny 2 music videos... for nothing. They had millions of views.
This is like leaving a loaded gun in a playground and getting mad when a child picks it up and shoots someone. I'd argue that the majority of fault is on RUclips's end for absolutely refusing to fix what has been a known problem for years.
This isn't a case of a child though, it's if a grown adult did that, both parties are to blame, but the adult is more to blame as they pulled the trigger
@@InfernoStormy they are both equally to blame, if RUclips fixed the system and didnt neglect creators, it wouldn’t have happened. If the individual didn’t exploit the system, it wouldn’t have happened.
To add to this, the lawsuit documents also have some extra info about him that say he has several email accounts associated with the hacking and cheating lawsuit that Bungie recently went through. So not only was he impersonating CSC, but he also has been using cheats while playing Destiny 2. Pretty crazy stuff.
"Nothing good happened here, to anybody" You'd think that maybe..just maybe... RUclips would finally open their eyes to how toxic they are in regards to their policies.
Is it bad to wish for a little kid to be abducted? There is this annoying 10 year old that lives next door who harasses not just me but all of the neighbors and rides his fourwheeler way too fast sometimes flipping people off for no reason. Freddy Krueger please help
@@brandoncook6190 Yea. But you’re allowed to be annoyed and frustrated. Maybe have someone talk to his parents? Abduction usually = r*pe so….that’s not something to wish for. But a good ol slap in the head never hurts.
I’d see why they’d drop kick his banking account, those RUclipsrs were scared stiff of losing their channel, this is a prime presentation of a company who doesn’t joke around.
Is it bad to wish for a little kid to be abducted? There is this annoying 10 year old that lives next door who harasses not just me but all of the neighbors and rides his fourwheeler way too fast sometimes flipping people off for no reason. Freddy Krueger please help
What scares me the most, is not that he was a fraud, but the fact, that they could track him easly, but they had to FORCE Google to do it. Imagine a smaller content creator getting scammed and demand someone's identity to get back what he lost, and noone would bet an eye on it. It's like: you can see all the fish, but just the anglers are allowed to pull them from the lake. God help us if we do something, and then someone tracks us.
Been long but it's not a huge deal, afaik the guy used personal info when he set up the accounts used to impersonate Bungie, when you go ahead and fight to court the person issuing the takedowns YT will provide you as it must the legal info of the other party, this isn't normally done as your average joe cannot afford to take matters into court this guy just happened to decide to piss off a company with both money and lawyers to follow through the proper process.
As the other guy said, you usually have to go through police, prove there is a crime, then they get a court order to force a company to give up information. Otherwise the company is breaking the law if there is an information protection clause in the user agreements. And if that wasn't the case, that's when you would pray to God, because literally anyone could easily find whoever they wanted.
I watched this all go down and it was insane to see. Bungie is a pretty great company and let's a lot of fan creations happen. You can have 80% their content and 20% yours and they'll allow it. I remember first seeing it and I was so confused because Bungie encourages fan creations, they do videos of the week/artists of the week. They have contests for the best dressed guardians and do a lot of stuff for charity. Also giving creators spotlights, I've seen a lot of creators I didn't know about because of that. It definitely tanked their reputation badly but I'm sure they earned it back and more because of this.
Yea, Bungie is actually awesome. They had their time when D2 content Was quite thin after parting with Activision, but they got a lot better since Beyond Light and especially Witch Queen was a blast. Can't wait to see what they have in store for us now that they are owned by Sony
I like bungie but i cant stand how we have to pay for everything in games like D2. If i buy a game once i expect the future content to be free because i bought the game. I payed for witch queen but i have to pay for beyond light and all other dlc's, its too much. Not to mention the future expansions
As an avid Destiny player and fan I've been first hand with all of this. The TWABs, the tweets, and the communication from other players...I've been there. I am currently trying to start a RUclips channel and I can't believe someone did this to others. I'm glad Bungie is doing this for themselves, and Destiny creators everywhere
Not even two minutes in, I understood what' s this story was about, and that I already knew everything about it.... Yet. I stayed for the rest of the video, because your spin of it was refreshing, mysterious, and well made, it definitely felt like a take of the situation I never saw before, wd and keep on!
Is it bad to wish for a little kid to be abducted? There is this annoying 10 year old that lives next door who harasses not just me but all of the neighbors and rides his fourwheeler way too fast sometimes flipping people off for no reason. Freddy Krueger please help
A true example that "The end justifies the means" IS NOT something that applies to everything, there's a reason why this sentence has a really bad image and it's because of people like Nick who affects others and tries to paint a good image of them "i'm with you guys! I directly damaged you but i did it for us!" Truly sickening and brain dead move
I’m gonna be honest I think what he did was actually hilarious but then again the only people I feel bad for in this like Aztecross got their shit back almost immediately so if you’re the type of person who feels bad for Bungie or other corporations I can see why it would bother you
Respect to Bungie for going out of their way for their fans. Even if they also had something to gain in all of this, still is a cool thing to do for your community
There's no way they end up awarded that much in damages, nor will he end up paying that much. That said I really hope he's found liable for damages and has to pay something. So many channels think they can weaponise DMCA and get away with it. This might show them they can't.
Even if he doesn't even go over a million dollars in damages, he's still going to be paying this debt for the rest of his life, and most likely his kids' lives (if he has any), more than likely.
This reminds of that Metacritic's one-man review bombing incident. A while back the game calledAI: Somnium Files, was getting review bombs from a 91 to 42 in less than a week. There was a user that caught wind of this and announces on social media that he investigate on how did this happen. Well other were also investigating and it turns out the user investigating it *was the culprit of single handedly review bombed this game's metascore.* His reason for this was because that game *killed his waifu. HIS WAIFU.* So seeing that lord nazo was "investigating" to hide from radar reminds me of that metacritic incident.
Bruh, the game killed her in only two sections of the game... In a game where branching storyline means that it could also never happen at all, that dude is stupid.
3:32 the fact that your talking about these big company's like there just one person really puts into perspective how pathetic some other company's are
It’s great to see Bungie taking action; recently they’ve been on a suing spree against hacking clients, and now someone who simply just tried to ruin a large part of Destiny content creation, especially a massively anticipated fan film, so getting to see that they’re trynna stand up for the community’s voice beyond what many developers might do is great to notice.
Well not really bungie does care about the destiny 2 content naked community and even if they weren't effected in this they would still done something about it
@@11Survivor Bungie really cares about their image and contact with the community. The community went absolutely nuts and Bungie wasnt happy about it either
@@11Survivor not true, they saw byf and aztecross' tweets and how mad people were about promethean and lorcan0c having videos taken down since a lot of people loved their content. the 7.6 million isn't just because they got hit, it's because the community got hit and potential reputation damage is a big no-no for any company (outside of activision-blizzard i guess)
as a mamber of the Destiny Comminity, I can actually say that I feel like they actually care about their community. The transparency they provide is unlike any game dev I've come across.
In an odd scenario, a corporation is the good guy when the "little" guy is the villain. Sure, the real villain is still RUclips because, if it did have a proper takedown system in place, none of this could happen, but I still have no sympathy for people who send out spurious takedown strikes. Hopefully, 7.6 million dollars worth of community service might do him some good.
I can't stres how much this guy is like a real life joker this man is. “All it takes is one bad day to reduce the sanest man alive to lunacy. That's how far the world is from where I am. Just one bad day.”
@@Adam.Clark. both are straight up in the wrong. And although there as bad stuff, nothing illegal until after he cracked. Not sure why you are defending the joker though, he has killed millions
RUclips Customer Service to RUclipsrs and Companies alike: “You could not live with your own failures, and where did that bring you…back to the wait list”
I’m an avid Destiny 2 player and despite the shit we (the community) give Bungie at times, they do have our best interests at heart and seem genuine about it. We’re also not on them about every little thing to the extent that other communities are. Because of that, Bungie tries to listen and do their best. They’re not perfect but the lawsuits they’ve made at least shows us you do not mess with Bungie’s destiny community.
Very true, the community can be *brutal* sometimes but never ignored. Mad respect to Bungie and especially the community managers for being transparent.
@@RD22x Absolutely not lmao. They bullied a developer because they wouldnt bring back twilight garrison so much and sent so much death threats he had to delete his twitter. Most of them are absolute idiots
He played the game of 'fluck around and find out' against Bungie and lost. He went in saying "never tell me the odds!" and got destroyed before he reached the finish line. This is by far the most hilarious thing I have seen in a long while and I couldn't be happier.
2:54 "They weren't just mad at this douchebag that was making fraudulent takedown requests but they were also mad at RUclips" Quantum TV : _(Sweating Profusely)_
It's also worth noting that Bungie had been working on a system of agreements for people to be granted permission to upload music and stuff for archival reasons and had to put it all on hold for this shit.
This story is like that one quest in Fallout New Vegas where you help the NCR find a spy in the base and your partner is the fucking spy it's almost incredible.
Hopefully Bungie also sues RUclips and maybe, just maybe, something might get done. Because this is also on YT's hands for having the most abominable strike system. And ya, Nick kinda got what he deserved. Not sure what he expected would happen, obviously someone would eventually catch him. Now he's royally screwed
A phenomenal rare case where I can say “yeah the multimillion dollar company is definitely in the right here, glad they are defending what is right” Glad bungie IS doing this and covering their fans- they seem good on that part.
One thing that should be noted is that one of the videos Nazo took down was the video "Dynasty" from MyNameIsByf. A multi-hour animated retelling of one of the largest saga's in destiny lore, and a video which was planned for multiple years and was a collaboration of dozens of members of the community. These weren't just random targeted takedowns, he was striking some of the communities biggest artistic efforts and achievements.
He had the power to strike down whatever he wanted, so anybody would use that to go right for the jugular before anything else. He probably took down multiple Day One videos, cutscene videos, basically whatever was a huge turning point or major achievement.
What this guy did was objectively bad, but holy shit. Imagine being sued for 7mil. Even being sued for like 500k would fuck a regular person up but there is literally no way for him to get that kind of money. It would legit be better for him to spend like 10 years in jail or better for the world if he spent like 10 years in community service.
Ngl the 7 million is a bit deserved, nazo copyright NINETY-SIX videos, that is quite a lot of lose viewer and even worse yet is dragging Bungie name throught the mud
Bungie struggling to contact RUclips depicts the ultimate underlining problem of this whole situation, RUclips
@@brandoncook6190 skill issue
@@brandoncook6190 just do it yourself lol
@@residentflamingo115 What?
That's Nazos point
This
Official Bungie RUclips account: *Gets copyright struck by "Bungie"*
RUclips: "Seems legit to me."
Thats what being run by bots does to a company
There are many things wrong with RUclips. But I’m over with this.
sEeMs LEgIT tO mE
RUclips official response: "Stop hitting yourself."
yeah there are way too many instances of this happening for all kinds of content. maybe a fat ass lawsuit will be incentive for them to fix the issue, but I doubt it
in a weird way, i think it’s comforting knowing that a billion-dollar company goes through the same customer service process as any other youtuber. we may not all be treated equally well, but it’s still cool to know we’re all treated equally like shit. 💀
Its both comforting and terrifying to be honest
@@Parcily Jews being held accountable? When the hell in history was that ever accomplished?
@@lanthanumlanthanium6373 what
@@lanthanumlanthanium6373 oh come on dude 🤦♂️
Lmao hall of fame hall of shame
Bungie bitching about youtube customer service while having literally ZERO customer service contact themself is fucking hilarious.
You should see the dcma agents on the lego game. Horrific
This is one of those rare times that siding with Bungie, a multi billion dollar company, in the process of suing someone is actually seen as a good thing.
What an interesting time to live in
I always find it tough to side with mega corporations, so for this one I think I'll just be an impartial observer. Can't really defend the actions of the wanker who filed 96 fraudulent DMCA notices, but I find it just as hard to cheer for some faceless business to ruin his life.
@@jornavyr2459 yeah well at least being an impartial observer is better than the usual “hate both sides for being faceless mega corps” thing.
Y’all remember when epic sued apple when epic was the one who broke the contract and all these brainlits were like “oh epic. Go epic” when both were hyper evil megacorps?
That was funny.
Uh I mean it was RUclips's system though. Maybe sue RUclips instead of suing some individual which will change nothing.
@@JeffGoldblum64 They're just being petty as him. Suing a broke petty guy with 2k subs will not help anyone. Suing RUclips is.
He broke RUclips's rules, got warned, kept breaking rules, got banned, and decided to take it out on...a different company and innocent content creators? What a terrible villain arc
No. That's a good villain. He affected a lot of lives. A bad villain wouldn't be able to go that far
And now he screwed his ENTIRE life up just because he was sad. Well deserved.
@@renegadepyro726 homie didn't even use VPN. He wanted his name to be known and remember. He got balls I'll give him that.
@@therealdrhankmccoy5047 Villains aren’t cool, idolizing people who gave up ain’t the wave.
@@ReservedSpot never said he was cool. Just saying he was good at what he did or else he wouldn't have affected that many lives. And he probably didn't use VPN because he wanted to be known. You just can't read is all.
The fact that a million dollar gamer household name like Bungie had to go through customer service like the rest of us is hysterical and maybe what weve needed all along, YT so powerful that not one single company can go at them alone, let alone go at google. I feel like this is still the beginning....or the end of a phase
Shouldn't that be the case, though? Everyone always seems to be complaining about preferential treatment for those that have money and power and then somehow those same people call it a failure when an entity with money and power is treated the same as everyone else.
@@Beatyofeet32 too blind to see their hypocrisy. youtube monetization as a whole is unfair, its just funny they pay so little mind to anyone. nobody can really make them care, so its weird to assume they would. less work = more money.
@@Beatyofeet32 no the case should be that RUclips improves their customer service and fix their broken system, but Google controls the flow of information on behalf of the existing liberal regime so don’t expect any sort of action to be taken against them
@@Beatyofeet32 maybe you misunderstood me lol thats wat im saying...its hysterical that they were treated how we as the common folk are treated
@@constructapex2021 Yeah, I wasn't sure of your stance specifically so I was just making a general comment
The only positive thing from this situation is how even a billion dollar company got ignored by RUclips when complaining about copyright stuff
I still feel youtube was a bigger villain than the mad teen. It's like the government killed all men because one deranged woman said men bad.
I don't understand how easy it is to copyright strike and take down videos...??? It's like anybody can do that without even having the right to do it and you lose momentum and a lot of views, and ultimately, a lot of money if someone just decides to that he or she wants to take down your content. Makes absolutely no sense.
@@ivannasha5556Bungie literally deleting payed content
@@lajeandom anyone can do it. does not mean they have a right to do it or will have proof that its legit. they have to take every claim as fact till they prove its not or they can get repercussion from those legit claims that get through. youtube is so understaffed and soaking up all the money they dont have people to make sure each claim is legit.
Based youtube for once
“Bungie went through customer service and didn’t get the issue solved for days” not only does this story show how broken their copyright system is but it shows how incompetent their support system is at the same time. And it’s been this way for a long time already. As for Nick, he simply played with fire and got burned. He also stabbed a lot of people in the back as well, so he’s pretty much getting back the karma he deserves.
yeah RUclips really needs to get their shit together and change the support system and copyright system. And the sad thing is they might only change it now since it involves a company.
@@Instabruh.User.. Quit Breathing
the title got updated
7.6 billion karma... Life ruined... Not what he deserves....
bro he didn't "play with fire" lol he straight committed self-immolation and did a scumbag piece of shit thing after getting mad about his channel being disabled, even tho he was literally doing something against copyright law in the first place (music stuff), and then hurt a bunch of creators who had nothing to do with the situation? definitely getting what he deserved lol
As if it wasn't bad enough that he would've gotten shunned by the community and his friends, he also now has to pay 8 MILLION FUCKING DOLLARS...
Imagine explaining that to his wife/girlfriend/parents 😭
bold to assume he has a girlfriend or friends
He'll probably just file for bankruptcy or settle for a lower amount.
Numb digger
There is no way he can afford 7.6 million. What happens in that scenario? Does he just pay everything he’s got for the rest of his life?
He has to file bankruptcy as well as probably broker anything he owns as collateral for payment
Wouldn't it be crazy if Bungee suing RUclips was all part of his plan. He really would be Kira.
Hey why did you delete your Discord server that one time? I really enjoyed it.
Also Kaya literally says he thinks Furries cause dog rape which is kinda disgusting. My sister is a Furry and she is underaged!
Ayaya
@@BaitPolice thanks for your service you’re a hero
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Bungee himself 💀
Cusses like a sailor and then randomly decides to go “it’s so unbelievably goofy” and I live for it
I actually lost my channel because of this guy. Thankfully, I got it back. But, I'm still floored that this was able to happen in the first place.
I'm so glad you were able to get your channel back. 🍻
Glad you got it back you're at 70k
Thats good to hear! But yeah thats crazy this whole thing even somehow happened
you still play destiny????
@@DefinetelyNOTtheFeds the games in the best spot it’s ever been
They ought to sue RUclips themselves. All they'd need to do is show that RUclips is purposefully nebulous and ineffective with their systems in pursuit of greater profits, which in turn caused bungie damages - which a reasonable person could foresee happening in this way given RUclipss operational practices.
suing google is not the way to go when it comes to this situation, however it would be so nice if youtube had a reformation, it really is getting old with the bs but they can keep it going with the broken system because no other platform can (or is willing to) do what youtube does
A billion dollar company suing a billion company doesn't make any sense, they should just focus on improving the systems.
@@Ayuima69 which will happen by its own when? you need to apply some pressure to this behemoth of a platform and it's owners/rules to finally not ignore the problems and as you said, atleast improving their systems
Literally this
@@Ayuima69 I just want RUclips to be a little bit more open on what problems they are solving, or what their process is. At least the rest of us would be a little bit more reassured that something is actually happening. Instead of silence then update.
As awful as this is, it really just shows how terrible RUclipss copyright system is, that it can ruin hundreds of lives and even an entire company over one angry guy. Reminds me of quantum tv, and yet RUclips still sits there with their hand up their ass doing nothing. Pathetic
I hope the fbi investigates you for copy/pasting this all over the comment section you neanderthal
@@brandoncook6190 what
@@brandoncook6190 silence, spambot
"reminds me of quantum tv" Dw TheActMan will TheYTLawsuit them. ;)
Best is they never do anything to solve real problems , guys making death threats, recording themselves with guns and actually harrasing people, they will hit you with the ' this doesn't infringe RUclips policies " you can upload a dead person and RUclips will put it on trendin_ is pathetic
I don't think it can be overstated just how much something like this needed to happen. Google has basically achieved Umbrella Co. levels of sketchy, and only another company had the ability (read: money) to take them to court on even ground.
Kinda strange that dude decided to play Get Smart, but I'm not gonna be the one to look a gift horse in the mouth.
My favorite part is that the emails he used to create the fake accounts were also found on one of the cheat sites Bungie sued for making cheats. So this guy was one of the cheaters playing Destiny as well.
So he deliberately had a negative view on Bungie in the first place 💀
@Kavetion do something then
@@giwdul5511 he cant, its just a lonely lil bot.
@@giwdul5511 It's a bot. Just ignore it lol
@@giwdul5511 honestly that bot is nothing and I'd take that all day long compared to the terrible shit the other ones spew all over every fucking video
The fact that RUclips couldn’t help a massive company, aka the main demographic that RUclips serves, just goes to show they are not only money driven, but genuinely incompetent.
If a company says that they’re “doing it for the advertisers” they’re incompetent, if they’re saying they’re “doing it for the community”, they’re money driven.
Im pretty sure youtube doesn't actually net that much profit if any at all. i think the advertising money goes to server upkeep and creators and little to none go to google. They are using it to work on their neural nets and various AI.
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I mean it's because there's no legal obligation for RUclips to do anything about false copyright strikes. All the DMCA/copyright laws require is for hosting sites to respond to the requests within a given time frame and remove the content. People seriously underestimate just how open ended the copyright laws are. Content hosting sites aren't required to ensure the validity of take down requests. They're only required to act upon the requests so long as the requester provides the most basic of information like this guy did and all RUclips is required to do is say "Yep, the information they gave matches the information of who represents this company's IP rights." and approve the take down.
@@lucoa460 overused reply
I would like to remind people that Bungie allows all its creators to do a lot of things.They literally have a rule where 80% of your video could be just their content and then you can just speak random bullshit for the rest 20 % and they will allow it.Thats how much they love their community and by far they have the most flexible creator friendly rules.ALSO the soundtrack that Nazo got banned for is allowed to be played in the backround of videos and for everything,you just cant upload it as a song.This guy could have just added backround gameplay of him dying in pvp and he would be completly fine
Hell one of the people they mention was wrongly struck, Promethean, would take recordings in game of the ost so you got the 15-30 minute experience of it instead of the compressed 4 minute samples in the official OST. And this was allowed. Look at his version of First Disciple vs the one on the official Destiny RUclips channel, for example
@@m05513 It was also either him or another channel that would take the painstaking time of finding the music in the channel files, which had multiple instrumental files depending on the situation (reaching a certain part of the map, in battle, out of battle, etc), and *pieced them together* so you could listen to the entire song as it was meant to be heard. All for archival purposes, and they loved the game and its music that much.
they also let third parties access their API and let it alter peoples loadout and stuff. they are very kind to their community
I wouldn’t go sucking their cock just yet they aren’t bad or good they are neutral
@@iasomnium919 yeah the destiny OST community is insane like that. And to think this pathetic excuse of a human tried to pass himself off as one of them. He probably would have gotten to keep his uploads with almost no effort too, considering how much is cut from the official OST, but he couldn't even do the bare minimum. 7.6 million is too kind for him.
out of all the million dollar gaming companies in this world, it feels empowering to know that Bungie is the one that relates to the common goober the most.
I came into this without any knowledge of what the situation was and was ready to be pissed at Bungie. After hearing the story, I did a complete 180 and am glad that someone's putting a fraudster like that in their place, especially if they're going to be threatening peoples' livelihoods!
Tbh, same. Love Bungie.
@@Ellie-gp9dg he was getting peoples video taken down
@@Ellie-gp9dg if you make videos for a living and someone is making false claims against your channel then that directly threatens your livelihood
@@Ellie-gp9dg imagine you work for a company just to write one article a week for a living. You do this without issue, and one week, you get accused for plagiarism with no proof, and your company refuses to pay you after the allegations, so you have no money for that week. You also have no way of proving your Innocence cause nobody in the company listens to insignificant people like that. You think missing a week's pay and doing all that work or nothing doesn't affect your livilihood? Now he did this to 50+ of your coworkers. See the issue?
@@Ellie-gp9dg did you not watch the video
I’m so glad bungie actually faces problems, first they attack and take down cheats and people who make cheats, and now this. I respect bungie actually putting their foot down when other companies wouldn’t do shit
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@@calxp91 BAHA-
@@forgivezharion1261 🗿
Nintendo
I *AM* THE ANTICHEAT
Been following this since the original takedown wave. One fun fact you missed, once the RUclipsr's name came out, some people in the community started cross-referencing his account with lists of people involved in a large cheating lawsuit. Turns out, he was likely a cheater in Destiny 2. Overall an absolute POS.
@@brandoncook6190 ?
"likely"
@Phillip Ramos Good idea
@@brandoncook6190 absolutely, yes, it is wrong, no matter how much of a piece of shit the kid is, do they deserve punishment? Yes absolutely, but abduction is too far
@@StickmanMook Yes, likely. As in, probably.
rewatching this video and hearing the celtics quip with how the heat v celtics games went goes crazy
My big Q here: why does it take so much for youtubers to get verified, but any random schmuck instantly impersonate a company and fraudyright claim anything on youtube? I feel there should be a verification process for copyright claims
i feel like they should do ID verification or something, seeing as it's a legal process, especially since disputing a strike already doxes the owner of the affected video
@@dopesickdog this
@@dopesickdog and more importantly, the side that should have their info shown to the other should be the striker, not the strikee, until the strikee says "I'm not taking down the video, take me to court"
Yep supposedly all he did was give a fake name and the address of the CSC offices and they were like yup seems good
Because lets say you make an album by yourself and dont have a youtube presence or account of any kind, and then you find out someone else is using your content without permission here. How do you prove that you are the real copyright holder in any satisfactory way and get the offenders removed without being stonewalled by the identification process? Its easy to prove you are who you say you are maybe, but harder to prove digitally that you have the authority for the copyright claim. So it has the potential to be just as frustrating on the opposite end for someone being taken advantage of.
So the solution is much more complex and theyve opted to make it easier for the strikers than the strikees
Cant believe bungie sued a RUclipsr 6 million times for $7
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These bots are just lame now
@@FentyCola559 fr
42 Million
@@FentyCola559 now?
this is the same energy as the TV reporters who interview strangers about a killing, when it turned out the person they're interviewing is actually the killer all along lol
Like Chris Watts
If you’re interested in watching a good video on the person this is referring to, look up “The Bizarre Case of Stephen McDaniel” by JCS, I watched it before and it’s a great video (yt deleted my comment with a link to the video)
@@mountaindrew2241 i think they're talking about the guy with the shitty haircut
There is another similar thing happening for years now: There is this weird Australian band that put the entire Super Metroid main menu music as the background for one of their songs and put that on the content ID system. So every person that is playing the game and shows more than a few seconds of main menu music risks getting their ad revenue chopped...
Oh and not so fun fact about that: The big video that brought light to the issue got taken down via copyright strike from the company that represents the band.....
Fun Fact: Submitting a complaint via regular channels is 3-30 days depending on the business/industry. Submitting a complaint via social media by directly calling out the business nets you a turnaround time of 48-72 hours.
That's extremely fucked, but I see why. If you go through the backends of a business, nobody else sees the complaint you're submitting, and thus they don't have to care. When you show it to the whole world to see, they have to fix that shit immediately or else they stand to lose business.
Social media managers are blamed if shit goes sideways on Twitter, trends, and its not dealt with promptly.
Lawsuit pops up? Well that's money involved, CEO/shareholders panick and the lawyers get a call to go full find-a-b*tch.
RUclips's bot support has no one to blame other than the CEO for making their "support" work that way, abd they sure as heck won't officially take that blame, so there's just silence.
Companies should be fined, per day, for not providing real human customer service. I'm tired of having to go to social media backlash to get some damn customer service.
Huh? Nobody forces you to use the service in the first place
I feel there's a balance between bot and human interaction, and youtube just went full bot. Getting a bot response can work for a time but it can only do so much.
Asking to speak to a real person, or being able to escalate to a real person, should always be an option, bots still can't tell images apart, let alone deal with many of the fake copyright notices.
I remember them introducing 'youtube heroes' where you could moderate channels, and my first thought was 'they're so bad at taking care of their own company, they're asking their userbase to do their job for them.
@@Definitely_Melnyx ah yeah, if something goes wrong the answer is just to not use it, right
@@JadeAnnabelArt RUclips doesn't make money, and has a billion minutes of content uploaded daily, how do you plan on paying people to cover that much content?
It's not possible and easy to see that if you had any sort of "critical" thinking skills.
@@BudMasta excuse me, did you just say “RUclips doesn’t make money”? Are you serious? What do you think ads are for? RUclips makes tons of money (Also they are owned by Google, so they could always get money from there). They can definitely hire a large team of human moderators. And they don’t have to moderate every single minute of every single video, just videos that receive content reports and copyright strikes. Funny how you’re saying that the other person has no critical thinking skills.
I swear there is some things I wouldn’t know had ever happened if it wasn’t for Charlie making a video about it.
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Damn these bots are even liking their own comments smh
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@@caramel777 "ForgiveZharion" is a bot
@@user-nr5xp6yd8z oh yeah i noticed i was just making sure he wasn’t referencing me lol
I hate when customer support sends me to the FAQ. It never answers my questions.
First off, I think Bungie should still sue RUclips for allowing this shit to happen and not having anything in place to verify that Nick was CsC or whatever company. A single person should not be able to emulate an entire company and cause this kind of shit storm but RUclips is going to act like suing this dude (which they aren't even doing) is enough and nothing needs to be changed, when clearly a SINGLE PERSON can shut down a plethora of content. Yes, an example is made but people with nothing to lose don't give a solitary fuck, they'll do this shit anyways if they just wanna fuck over a company for a week and then the content creators get fucked in the process.
This goes beyond just using a little ditty that's blocked like a titty, this shit is unacceptable and as a company better measures need to be taken, they have the coin and they can expand support so someone should bring this shit to their attention cause they're still not seeing it.
It's a problem for animators as well. People will file copyright claims and pretend to be the original artist
I agree, even tho I only read like 1/3 of that
It's so funny to me that RUclips is literally a part of Google, by far one of the biggest companies in the world, every single browser like Brave and Opera GX use the google search engine, and they can't even manage to get a support team. Even Doordash has better support than RUclips. It's actually mind blowing that they can think its okay, after all this time. Its been at least a decade this has been an issue. And they couldn't give less of a shit than they currently do. I absolutely despise every company who's "support" is just a link to commonly asked questions, because if my question was commonly asked, I wouldn't be using their support lmao. For me support is a last option compared to simply searching an issue up.
i disagree. the system can be abused but the person abusing the system should be the one sued
But even if Bungie were to sue RUclips I don’t think it would even accomplish much, since Bungie loses, I mean as big as Bungie is, there is no way they are getting past the fat stack of lawyers that RUclips owns not to mention they Google is RUclips’s parent company, they’ll just run Bungie’s money out to dry at least I think.
You know, this person is absolutely crazy. However, their actions causing Bungie to have issues with RUclips might actually result in a positive change in the system, hopefully.
Not really otherwise they'd be suing RUclips for the 7.6 million $
Personally i want to see big tech duke it out with eachother if we're not getting antitrust breakups / class actions
@Kavetion i agree
Most likely not, youtube only does negative change, never positive
@@Zuignap "Our support systems we have in place suck? Our copyright system is heavily biased and flawed? Can't reach our department heads easily?" * Breaks dislike button *
@@ack7956 Yep, pretty much.
I really hope bungie also sues RUclips over this, their copyright system is complete bolocks, they need to get flamed over this.
Please yes.. Chaos would be awesome
Yah, RUclips definitely helped cause this problem to fester
Ever heard of the Quntum TV Incident?
God if they did that Bungie would be the saviour of RUclips
@@apathyreaper5323 Bungie has more money than the people that quantum went against
Well, a recent lawsuit taught me that what you sue for isn't necessarily what you get. But even if this is reduced to 1 or 2 million, that bully's life is over, and deservedly so. I hope that this suit will go through and Bungie wins, so that in the future stuff like this won't happen anymore. It'd make RUclips a more friendly place to be, because I'd be hugely surprised if this was the only anger-revenge-butthurt takedown troll.
1 or 7 million, hes declaring bankruptcy
He's going to Bankrupt lmao they won't see a single penny
@@Sean-MacGuire You forget that Nintendo sued a guy for about as much for a lesser crime and he's going to pay them for the rest of his natural life.
@@jesusofbullets and he bankrupt and now owes nothing lmao
a minor inconvenience a temporary hiccup, bungie themselves have caused more fear for these content creators careers than some guy filing copyright strikes when youtube falsely does them all the time.. bungie took this guys life away becuase they’re a broke company trying to get money wherever they can.. yes what he did was bad but 7 million fucking dollars are you serious?!!! what assets and resources did they spend to remedy this problem? NONE! they wrote a fucking email to youtube that’s it.
as someone who plays destiny regularly, it's crazy to see how much this story has blown up outside the destiny community
Yeah I read the title then got thrown for a mini loops when I saw the thumbnail of charlie
I mean to be fair, Destiny isn’t exactly a niche community. It’s pretty mainstream and it involves RUclips and Bungie so I’d expect it to blow up.
@@katzabar it feels pretty niche in comparison to how mainstream it initially was or to other more well known game franchises, but i guess 1 mil+ sales on a single expansion can't really be considered niche at that point
Fr. All I saw was Datto, Aztecross, and many other Destiny RUclipsrs talking about this. But I was surprised to see moist cover it too(I suppose it's because he is also a Destiny player). But yeah, this case has had a profound effect on not just the Destiny community, but the youtuber community too.
it's not about destiny. BUNGIE has been a big name before destiny. Most people know bungie from Halo more than destiny. It's not really that surprising that one of the largest popular developers is being covered by popular youtubers lol
RUclips definitely needs real life people looking at copyright claims to be approved and whoever is making those claims need more than just an email
@@sudanemamimikiki1527 you look at the reports not every single video posted duuuuuur
Thats physically impossible to do. Copyright laws themselves need to be changed to keep up with modern times.
ikr if tumblr of all places can handle checking each time someone wants to submit a blaze post, yt can definitely handle it
@@sudanemamimikiki1527 lmao 10% aren’t being reported wtf are you even talking about
@@sudanemamimikiki1527 let's say it's 0.01% that's only 72 videos a day. Now it's trivial.
Important additional note to this story. Lord Nazo was a part of a subset of the Destiny community that uploads music to RUclips. Most of Destiny's music isn't published by Bungie, so there is a dedicated community of people who will take tracks from the game and edit them into listenable versions that get posted to RUclips. Lord Nazo was communicating with other members of the same community while he was on his striking spree, absolutely wild scenario. He also would have been totally fine if he hadn't been posting some of the *only* music that Bungie actually published officially.
Funny tidbit is that he might have gotten away with it if he hadn't swung too big. Bungie didn't really start taking action until they realized that one their biggest, most brand safe creators ( Aztecross) got hit by a strike that made absolutely no sense.
Byf was one of the first ones hit iirc, and he immediately brought it up to Bungie, who than started to investigate. I don't think that Aztecross was the sole reason, I don't think there was a sole reason other than that Nazo started to do this in the first place.
Bungie has always placed a huge focus on their community, and puts in a huge amount of work to protect the community. They are constantly doing charity drives, community interactions, community spotlights, creator spotlights, and have open communication with the community. They even have public employee spotlights to celebrate their staff, and according to glassdoor, this isn't just base level PR. Bungie seems to honestly really care about their people.
So someone impersonating them and ruining their community focused image was going to get slapped, even if they avoided some of the biggest names.
Is it bad to wish for a little kid to be abducted? There is this annoying 10 year old that lives next door who harasses not just me but all of the neighbors and rides his fourwheeler way too fast sometimes flipping people off for no reason. Freddy Krueger please help
I mean im sure destiny channel videos themselves getting hit probablyy hit their eyes too
@@brandoncook6190 ay yo why did you even comment this?
@@memeking3953 its a bot, ignore them
No matter what you do, if you abuse copyright strikes, you absolutely deserve a $7.6 million dollar lawsuit.
Just, holy hell. After all this time the little guys are getting their revenge, but this time not on their own but with A massive company. Honestly this is well deserved
@Kavetion bot
are you aware this guy is going to kill himself with such a debt? go outside ffs
@Kavetion same
@Kavetion bet u got a bigger forehead too
*AAA massive company
This man is so good at insults it’s practically his mother language.
actually he gets it from his father /j
@@sapnupua5 father Language then
@@sapnupua5 you are so horrifically unfunny
I'd never feel or and felt offended by this person...... Yet. Lol. Good luck.
@@goliathbroodia942 okay goliath (lol)
This honestly feels like one of the those movies were some guy leaves a trail of destruction thinking he's doing the right thing or its all for the greater good, only the realize come the end that he's entirely lost his way and the damage he's caused is irreversible.
Many of music videos that got hit were of music that was never given an official public release from Bungie and the creators who uploaded them were doing it as a means of sharing such music with the Destiny community. But now their gone and we don't even know if they'll come back at all.
Death note
It’s like a poetic tragedy
Breaking Bad
Cyrus type motive
Nice pfp
5:00 Oh my god yes! I had an issue with my Pixel phone and it was pretty obvious there wasn't a human on the other end of the connection, just Google's AI pumping out search results.
The way he orchestrated those DM's to fool the other guys into thinking he was on their side is some Palpatine level planning and plotting.
Kinda psychotic if you think about it.
It WOULD have been, if he didn't do it in the most foolish way possible, by practically telling them all exactly how he did it step by step under the guise of "I bet you he did it like this". I mean, there's a difference between being able to know the mind of the perpetrator, and somehow knowing every last minute detail of how they committed the crime to an uncanny degree.
"So, he was sitting there at his computer, probably just got finished watching a rerun of Rick and Morty, season 2 episode 4, wearing size nine Nikes, with a red and white stripped polo and some gray dickies... but not the knew kind of dickies, the old kind. You know the kind I'm talking about, the ones that had that little strip of stitching across the knee and the extra pocket on the lower left back pant leg? Then he took a drink from his extra large Coca Cola he had gotten from McDonalds about three hours and 23 minutes ago which was kind of starting to go flat and watered down from the melted ice, as he began to open up his Mozilla Firefox browser to pull up RUclips, which was still out of date two versions because he didn't like some of the new Firefox UI features they had implemented in the previously released version..."
The main difference being that Palpatine was good at it
*shooting himself with Force lighting
"Oh, Anakin, save me! Oh, why would the Jedi do this?"
@@eyesofthecervino3366 lmao maybe it was Palpatine level planning then
As someone rather on the smaller side of RUclips who does upload Destiny content, it was a scary few days of watching Destiny content creators get striked and possibly losing their channels. Anyone's livelihood could've just been gone, and those were the big boys.
But when Bungie themselves got hit as well, that's when the story got absolutely wild because just... how? However, then seeing Bungie's massive support for its community is so loving, while RUclips's joke of system is so sad.
yooo its the dude that hangs out with zanny, glad you survived man
casual Caluben in the comments ok
Loving? You sound like a battered housewife, Bungie treats us horribly.
@@codafett they really don't, compared to almost any other game company they do treat the community well
@@codafett bungie treat their community better than 90% other company. Not like bungie is the best but one of good one. They still listen to community.
I'm glad Nick is getting what he deserves. I also heard about that story and I can't blame Bungie. They only wanted to take down RUclips content creators who basically Copy and Paste their sound track and everything because the sound tracks are copy righted which is illegal and then that bozo going on a rampage.
@@brandoncook6190 what
Yeah i get that it shouldn't be allow to simply copy-paste sound track that are copyrighted but what annoying me is when you want to play a game that has copyright music in it you CAN NOT play the game with music on if you plans on uploading it to youtube because you'll get hit by the Content ID bull crap.
Imo, it make absolutely no sense that your videos can be hit by "Content ID" while playing the very game the musics have been injected in. Right now i can't play any music or vfx sound track in Need For Speed Hot Pursuit ReMastered because of this dumb reason.
@@nawimnot it's a bot I'm pretty sure
And Bungie has the OSTs on their own channel so-
@@The_Worst_Warlock That doesn’t mean their mixing of the tracks are complete or the best available version. Its a problem for example with FF7 Remake’s official soundtrack because it is lacking a lot of tracks and complete versions or extended versions but the copyright owners (SquareEnix) constantly nuke every video of it on the platform via bots/content id/manually, so no extended version, no remixes, no covers, no different mixing of audio, nothing. You either buy the incomplete product or play and capture the game without audio if you want the missing tracks and mix it yourself.
My favourite bit from the legal document from Bungie is "anyone foolish enough to falsely represent us" and calling RUclipss systems a abysmal labyrinth
RUclips as a company has been a joke for some years now. The copyright system is broken, even fake companies claim many videos even from the people who actually own the content, the coding on the site is always so buggy, and even high end companies and youtubers have a hard time getting in touch with anyone. The only reason I am still here is to watch people like you, Charlie. Screw the company I am here for the creators who actually make an effort.
Exactly the creators are the only reason why I’m here. RUclips is honestly pathetic
Same
Yeah. We need a revolution!
I can hear someone said that using a GTA SA theme song in your video(s) can receive a copyright strike 🤦
That’s a stupid example
Same
I feel like bungie should sue RUclips instead of this dude. RUclips literally took down multiple videos all because youtube wouldn't take the time to make sure that the copyright claims were real and coming from a genuine company and not some dude pretending to be one
The guy still impersonated a copyright claim company and striked videos and creators who were completely innocent, why shouldn't he be sued? He also played the victim card while stabbing his fellow destiny creators in the back and blamed it all on Bungie, it's fucking vile.
@@jasperhorne he said both
instead? no they should sue both
@@zonegaming3498 A REPLY said both. OP did not say both. Use your eyes.
they should definitely sue the guy for everything he has lmao
honestly I wish bungie could have the funds to sue RUclips to encourage more of a response to its creator and help, especially during this quantum tv saga that is still unresolved and its crazy how Susan will bow down to big corps when threatened and yet does nothing to help the ones that actually pay their lively hood. its a food chain system that creators like Charlie are treated like bottom of the barrel ants.
You really just don't understand how anything works, do you?
I thought you're Muaxh03
Lemme tell ya something. RUclips is a huge loss for google. It doesn't even break even. This is why there will never be an alternative. The only reason google keeps the lights on is because this is the biggest pool of information for algorythms to learn from in the world. They don't really care about the creators.
@@imyourmaster77 can you link me to some of that information... Im making a video and doing content on just this topic. If you would be able to share me with whatever you have/know it would be a huge help... If you want ill share my socials to connect... 🙏
@@imyourmaster77 Where did you get info about youtube being loss for google? Logically it could explain why there is no competition in video hosting but i would be interested in real data\arguments.
You can’t claim you’re making a point while simultaneously pretending to be the victim. That’s like a fireman starting a building fire then putting it out pretending to be a hero and when he’s caught he says I just wanted to show how dangerous hot stuff can be. It’s ridiculous
The 2nd dumbest thing ab this is any hate the community managers got for this. Like Bungie literally encourages streamers and content creators to stream any day 1 raid and Bungie even made a promo for it. Assuming Bungie would issue content claims for gameplay is ridiculous. The only copyright they enforce is stuff their channels posts and soundtracks since there’s already a way to get those
I remember all the articles during the takedowns. Most of them just put the blame on Bungie. It was just after the announcement of the Sony acquisition too…
Check out wargaming lmao before you doubt anything. Bought a community world of warships tournament agreeing not to change anything. Presumably adding carriers and submarines at some point to it, where the tournament existed to exclude those classes. Now they are banning many of the most popular streamers in the tournament from casting it because they have said bad stuff about the company.
Bungie is a company that will literally leave no quarter when it comes to defending their community. Ever since Halo they have been very engaging with the community, creating events, having cool achievements and goals for the players to get, as well as celebrations for anniversaries. For example, they had a 30th anniversary that brought in not only guns similar to the Halo weapons, but also gave the Destiny 2 community the legendary magnum as an exotic, built like a homage to the OG. They even give weekly updates which in itself becomes a little event on seeing what Bungie has been working on. There are very few companies that work in this model at the size they are at and I am grateful they went all out against them.
Edit: Because of the whole situation, Bungie actually revised their system to allow music channels to upload old Destiny soundtracks for archival use and revamped the licensing they set up for the content creation to allow it. It goes to show how much they give a damn.
Don't forget they throttled exp for d2.
@@TeelBick yeah in Year 1, and as far as I can tell from my hours in the game now, it doesn't feel like a huge problem now.
@@TeelBick dude hasn’t played in 3 years 😭😭😭
@@TeelBick Yeaaaa my guy exp is like not even a topic of conversation anymore. Don't talk like you know the game if you haven't played since 2017.
Don't forget the 30th anniversary brought back Gjallarhorn!
the fact that bungie went this far to protect its creators makes me feel some hope for possible change on youtube
they did it because it was hurting their reputation + their own channels got targeted as well
@@skytommy_main Bungie has always been very community focused, obviously this hurts the trust they have with the community a lot, so they took action. there arent many other studios that would do the same as bungie did, beeing open to the issue and suing the shit out of bad actors
They're not protecting the creators, they're protecting their reputation, content creators are bungie's leverage, as content creators spread the word of bungie's product basically for free, business as usual.
They literally ruined a guys life but ok
Nothing will change on RUclips. Google is too rich and too evil.
11:40 I am one of these other music uploaders affected by this mess. I tought Bungie had started a massive crackdown on OST channels, so i removed all of my Destiny 1 AND Destiny 2 music videos... for nothing. They had millions of views.
Sure they did
This puts a new meaning of the old phrase "my dad works for Bungie and he will get you banned"
“-If you steal my Sniper again.”
“Dude, my Dad owns Microsoft.”
"My dad works at Nintendo and he will take away your account."
The ban hammer is back!
This is like leaving a loaded gun in a playground and getting mad when a child picks it up and shoots someone. I'd argue that the majority of fault is on RUclips's end for absolutely refusing to fix what has been a known problem for years.
This isn't a case of a child though, it's if a grown adult did that, both parties are to blame, but the adult is more to blame as they pulled the trigger
@@InfernoStormy they are both equally to blame, if RUclips fixed the system and didnt neglect creators, it wouldn’t have happened. If the individual didn’t exploit the system, it wouldn’t have happened.
@@aceplay4448 True
Or letting a Halo grunt live and getting mad when it starts to shoot at you.. Get it?? Because bungie made Halo??
@@aceplay4448 not equal i’d say a 70% the guy 30% youtube. At most if you absolutley want to see youtube burn it’s a 60-40
To add to this, the lawsuit documents also have some extra info about him that say he has several email accounts associated with the hacking and cheating lawsuit that Bungie recently went through. So not only was he impersonating CSC, but he also has been using cheats while playing Destiny 2. Pretty crazy stuff.
"Nothing good happened here, to anybody"
You'd think that maybe..just maybe... RUclips would finally open their eyes to how toxic they are in regards to their policies.
What’s crazy is that he’d have had a ton of support if:
1) His content wasn’t a straight rip
2) He didn’t try to take down other innocent creators
Is it bad to wish for a little kid to be abducted? There is this annoying 10 year old that lives next door who harasses not just me but all of the neighbors and rides his fourwheeler way too fast sometimes flipping people off for no reason. Freddy Krueger please help
@@brandoncook6190 i guess its bad lol
@@brandoncook6190 Yea. But you’re allowed to be annoyed and frustrated. Maybe have someone talk to his parents? Abduction usually = r*pe so….that’s not something to wish for. But a good ol slap in the head never hurts.
He’d have a ton of support if he didn’t do the worst things from the list???? 😱 😱 NO WAYYYYYY
that's literally the two exact reasons why he's in the situation right now
I’d see why they’d drop kick his banking account, those RUclipsrs were scared stiff of losing their channel, this is a prime presentation of a company who doesn’t joke around.
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Is it bad to wish for a little kid to be abducted? There is this annoying 10 year old that lives next door who harasses not just me but all of the neighbors and rides his fourwheeler way too fast sometimes flipping people off for no reason. Freddy Krueger please help
What scares me the most, is not that he was a fraud, but the fact, that they could track him easly, but they had to FORCE Google to do it. Imagine a smaller content creator getting scammed and demand someone's identity to get back what he lost, and noone would bet an eye on it.
It's like: you can see all the fish, but just the anglers are allowed to pull them from the lake. God help us if we do something, and then someone tracks us.
Been long but it's not a huge deal, afaik the guy used personal info when he set up the accounts used to impersonate Bungie, when you go ahead and fight to court the person issuing the takedowns YT will provide you as it must the legal info of the other party, this isn't normally done as your average joe cannot afford to take matters into court this guy just happened to decide to piss off a company with both money and lawyers to follow through the proper process.
As the other guy said, you usually have to go through police, prove there is a crime, then they get a court order to force a company to give up information. Otherwise the company is breaking the law if there is an information protection clause in the user agreements. And if that wasn't the case, that's when you would pray to God, because literally anyone could easily find whoever they wanted.
“i’ll strike a video, AND EAT A CHIP”
This was such a big deal in the Destiny 2 community! Glad he's done
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@@forgivezharion1261 My brother in Christ, what are you saying?
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@@eyo8766 its a bot
I watched this all go down and it was insane to see. Bungie is a pretty great company and let's a lot of fan creations happen. You can have 80% their content and 20% yours and they'll allow it. I remember first seeing it and I was so confused because Bungie encourages fan creations, they do videos of the week/artists of the week. They have contests for the best dressed guardians and do a lot of stuff for charity. Also giving creators spotlights, I've seen a lot of creators I didn't know about because of that. It definitely tanked their reputation badly but I'm sure they earned it back and more because of this.
Yea, Bungie is actually awesome. They had their time when D2 content Was quite thin after parting with Activision, but they got a lot better since Beyond Light and especially Witch Queen was a blast.
Can't wait to see what they have in store for us now that they are owned by Sony
Yeah Bungie is fantastic 😂
The d2 content is their store, fuck 'em.
I like bungie but i cant stand how we have to pay for everything in games like D2. If i buy a game once i expect the future content to be free because i bought the game. I payed for witch queen but i have to pay for beyond light and all other dlc's, its too much. Not to mention the future expansions
@@emvagabond2891 big true, its my biggest gripe with Bungie and how they deal with D2, the way D1 was dealt with was better for new and old players.
@@emvagabond2891 it's a DLC. DLC always costed money
As an avid Destiny player and fan I've been first hand with all of this. The TWABs, the tweets, and the communication from other players...I've been there. I am currently trying to start a RUclips channel and I can't believe someone did this to others. I'm glad Bungie is doing this for themselves, and Destiny creators everywhere
Good luck on your channel bro
Not even two minutes in, I understood what' s this story was about, and that I already knew everything about it....
Yet. I stayed for the rest of the video, because your spin of it was refreshing, mysterious, and well made, it definitely felt like a take of the situation I never saw before, wd and keep on!
RUclips: doesn't answer Bungie's request
Bungie: God, that's what you guys have to go through?
Every other RUclipsr: *J. Jonah Jameson laugh track*
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Is it bad to wish for a little kid to be abducted? There is this annoying 10 year old that lives next door who harasses not just me but all of the neighbors and rides his fourwheeler way too fast sometimes flipping people off for no reason. Freddy Krueger please help
A true example that "The end justifies the means" IS NOT something that applies to everything, there's a reason why this sentence has a really bad image and it's because of people like Nick who affects others and tries to paint a good image of them "i'm with you guys! I directly damaged you but i did it for us!"
Truly sickening and brain dead move
Doesn’t apply to much of anything except outright survival or stopping horrible crimes and abuse.
Sounds like any Libtards’ lack of critical thinking lol
@@crackededge9351 yeah, unless you stop the nazi's by killing their superiors and supporters the phrase doesn't really work.
I’m gonna be honest I think what he did was actually hilarious but then again the only people I feel bad for in this like Aztecross got their shit back almost immediately so if you’re the type of person who feels bad for Bungie or other corporations I can see why it would bother you
End justify the means mfs are the worst, always remove any type of morals/ethics because the end somehow redeems their immoral actions.... somehow???
Respect to Bungie for going out of their way for their fans. Even if they also had something to gain in all of this, still is a cool thing to do for your community
I doubt it had anything to do with the fans, I wager the only reason they got involved is because they were directly effected.
respect to nick. fuck bungie.
@@commissarthorne3894 i assume its because of both
@Some Random Dude did they listen to feedback when they deleted content
I guess no one is going to talk about what happened with Marty O’ Donnel?????
You know you’re company has dog shit customer service when the only to get issues resolved is to take them to court
Your
There's no way they end up awarded that much in damages, nor will he end up paying that much.
That said I really hope he's found liable for damages and has to pay something. So many channels think they can weaponise DMCA and get away with it.
This might show them they can't.
Even if he doesn't even go over a million dollars in damages, he's still going to be paying this debt for the rest of his life, and most likely his kids' lives (if he has any), more than likely.
Charlie would never get sued by RUclips. He’s an absolute unit and RUclips is the one who owes him 76 million robux
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"Bungie going on a killing spree" is such an elegant description and Charles dropped that so casually on us.
fr, bungie has been popping off in the court recently
@Reffidex I think it was a quad 3 cheat website and this guy
Good to see a company get humbled by how horrid the support RUclips has.
Deserved, this is the exception to every company vs RUclipsr lawsuit where the multi billion dollar company is in the right
This reminds of that Metacritic's one-man review bombing incident. A while back the game calledAI: Somnium Files, was getting review bombs from a 91 to 42 in less than a week. There was a user that caught wind of this and announces on social media that he investigate on how did this happen. Well other were also investigating and it turns out the user investigating it *was the culprit of single handedly review bombed this game's metascore.*
His reason for this was because that game *killed his waifu. HIS WAIFU.* So seeing that lord nazo was "investigating" to hide from radar reminds me of that metacritic incident.
Okay but that’s based because they can just delete the false reviews
Bruh, the game killed her in only two sections of the game... In a game where branching storyline means that it could also never happen at all, that dude is stupid.
Imagine pretending to be a company then get surprised when they sue you.
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At this point Twitter should just charge RUclips for having their support in their website
3:32 the fact that your talking about these big company's like there just one person really puts into perspective how pathetic some other company's are
It’s great to see Bungie taking action; recently they’ve been on a suing spree against hacking clients, and now someone who simply just tried to ruin a large part of Destiny content creation, especially a massively anticipated fan film, so getting to see that they’re trynna stand up for the community’s voice beyond what many developers might do is great to notice.
The only reason they stood up is because their own channel got struck.
If it hadn't, they literally would not have given a flying fuck.
Well not really bungie does care about the destiny 2 content naked community and even if they weren't effected in this they would still done something about it
@@11Survivor Bungie really cares about their image and contact with the community. The community went absolutely nuts and Bungie wasnt happy about it either
@@11Survivor not true, they saw byf and aztecross' tweets and how mad people were about promethean and lorcan0c having videos taken down since a lot of people loved their content. the 7.6 million isn't just because they got hit, it's because the community got hit and potential reputation damage is a big no-no for any company (outside of activision-blizzard i guess)
as a mamber of the Destiny Comminity, I can actually say that I feel like they actually care about their community. The transparency they provide is unlike any game dev I've come across.
In an odd scenario, a corporation is the good guy when the "little" guy is the villain. Sure, the real villain is still RUclips because, if it did have a proper takedown system in place, none of this could happen, but I still have no sympathy for people who send out spurious takedown strikes. Hopefully, 7.6 million dollars worth of community service might do him some good.
The problem is that money is not going to the creators... But to some already rich company
Lmao you think the guy has 7mil? Bungie gets nothing out of this aside from a few hundred a month from his community services until his life ends
@@paskit219 pretty sure they replies to g n
RUclips is like the Shinigami
Yo that 0:40 Celtics burn hitting hard rn lol
I can't stres how much this guy is like a real life joker this man is.
“All it takes is one bad day to reduce the sanest man alive to lunacy. That's how far the world is from where I am. Just one bad day.”
Life, is like gravity.....
except when he was straight up breaking RUclips's rules and was never in the right...
@@Adam.Clark. not except.
Just like how Joker breaks laws and is never in the right
@@Otamatone69 he didn't crack after doing illegal stuff tho, he cracked and then did illegal stuff. this guy was just straight up in the wrong
@@Adam.Clark. both are straight up in the wrong. And although there as bad stuff, nothing illegal until after he cracked.
Not sure why you are defending the joker though, he has killed millions
RUclips Customer Service to RUclipsrs and Companies alike: “You could not live with your own failures, and where did that bring you…back to the wait list”
I’m an avid Destiny 2 player and despite the shit we (the community) give Bungie at times, they do have our best interests at heart and seem genuine about it. We’re also not on them about every little thing to the extent that other communities are. Because of that, Bungie tries to listen and do their best. They’re not perfect but the lawsuits they’ve made at least shows us you do not mess with Bungie’s destiny community.
Very true, the community can be *brutal* sometimes but never ignored. Mad respect to Bungie and especially the community managers for being transparent.
D2 Community some of the best people too
Especially with sunsetting. If it were Activision, they wouldn't do anything until Forsaken came out lol.
@@RD22x Absolutely not lmao. They bullied a developer because they wouldnt bring back twilight garrison so much and sent so much death threats he had to delete his twitter. Most of them are absolute idiots
They have our best interests at heart.....as long as we buy the season pass. /S
He played the game of 'fluck around and find out' against Bungie and lost. He went in saying "never tell me the odds!" and got destroyed before he reached the finish line. This is by far the most hilarious thing I have seen in a long while and I couldn't be happier.
2:54
"They weren't just mad at this douchebag that was making fraudulent takedown requests but they were also mad at RUclips"
Quantum TV : _(Sweating Profusely)_
It's also worth noting that Bungie had been working on a system of agreements for people to be granted permission to upload music and stuff for archival reasons and had to put it all on hold for this shit.
This story is like that one quest in Fallout New Vegas where you help the NCR find a spy in the base and your partner is the fucking spy it's almost incredible.
Quest added “I put a strike on you”
"Bungie always wins"
"His soap in prison, shall dingle dangle dingle,"
You made your last video kid...truth is the game was rigged from the start
God I love Fallout NV
Nick: "Delete! Delete! Delete! Delete delete delete delete-"
Bungie: "Delete."
Hopefully Bungie also sues RUclips and maybe, just maybe, something might get done. Because this is also on YT's hands for having the most abominable strike system. And ya, Nick kinda got what he deserved. Not sure what he expected would happen, obviously someone would eventually catch him. Now he's royally screwed
Literally as I finished the latest weed shop video, another video drops
A phenomenal rare case where I can say “yeah the multimillion dollar company is definitely in the right here, glad they are defending what is right”
Glad bungie IS doing this and covering their fans- they seem good on that part.
Bungie has always been transparent and engaging with their fans, even since the Halo days. Hope they keep it up.
I thought the cord was a piece of hair on my phone screen and try to get it off lol
The fact that RUclips ignored Bungie, a huge company that made early Halo titles and Destiny 1-2, and is worth billions, is appalling.
Bungie made the only halo games in existence.
But it's gucci when they ignore other creators
One thing that should be noted is that one of the videos Nazo took down was the video "Dynasty" from MyNameIsByf. A multi-hour animated retelling of one of the largest saga's in destiny lore, and a video which was planned for multiple years and was a collaboration of dozens of members of the community. These weren't just random targeted takedowns, he was striking some of the communities biggest artistic efforts and achievements.
He had the power to strike down whatever he wanted, so anybody would use that to go right for the jugular before anything else. He probably took down multiple Day One videos, cutscene videos, basically whatever was a huge turning point or major achievement.
What this guy did was objectively bad, but holy shit. Imagine being sued for 7mil. Even being sued for like 500k would fuck a regular person up but there is literally no way for him to get that kind of money. It would legit be better for him to spend like 10 years in jail or better for the world if he spent like 10 years in community service.
He’s not going to pay it. More then likely he would declare bankruptcy and lose basically any assets in his possession but that will be it.
@@XtremeRapUnion declaring bankruptcy isnt a get out of jail free card. Your life is basically fucked
He'll not pay that because there's no way he has that much money, but they'll take all his money and property.
Ngl the 7 million is a bit deserved, nazo copyright NINETY-SIX videos, that is quite a lot of lose viewer and even worse yet is dragging Bungie name throught the mud
@@yoga5631 no it aint, their name is pristine gold shiny condition bc they actually cared enough to help out the youtubers
I’m honestly terrified of RUclips’s copyright system because it sucks so badly and it affects so many people.