when it comes to pure rapping ability it’s gotta be doom, nas, or andre. But as an artist it’s gotta be kendrick. Best albums, great lyricist, and has songs with great meaning while also sounding sonically amazing
I agree that Nas is the GOAT. Glad to see you guys putting a lot of respect on some people that still don't seem to get as much credit as they deserve, like Black Thought and Mos Def. Great conversation and a great video.
Yeah, I personally think that some artists could have overtaken nas if they had a longer life like pac or big but nas has proven he can which is why he gets the GOAT title
All The Way!! Nas Are The Shit!! I Also Have To Go With Cameron And Juelz Santana aka The Diplomats!! Jay Z,. Tupac Shakur And B.I.G aka Biggie Smalls 👑. Forget Eminem.
True, this is the realest video I've seen, just listened to KD3 even imo after illmatic nas had nothing more to prove how great he is, but here he goes at 49 years of age and drops 4 insta classic albums in less than 2 years, truly the best to ever do it
@@georgebruh8325 Rakim music is better than nas music period,your ears 👂 are limited if you think that nas music is better than Rakim music,,,,we’re is nas one verse iconic classic like paid in full by Rakim,, and just because you have more records made doesn’t mean that your music is better,,Rakim puts more than into his music than nas do
8 mile soundtrack is by far the most underrated Eminem project. He had amazing production on so many of the songs and his most underrated and best songs are in it.: lose yourself, 8 mile, rabbit run, rap game, wanksta, 8 miles and running all of which slap so hard.
Yeah, I had to stop watching after they chose Kendrick over Eminem because of the discography when they just said they didn't choose Kanye for that same reason since they felt Kanye was a better hip hop artist but not rapper yet they said they chose Kendrick for the discography...
@@jacobvanderhooft2188 They make completely different kinds of hip hop i feel. It's hard to compare and we can have that conversation. That wasn't my point though
This video is an absolute hit. The fact that they have Nas as the winner shows just how much they truly know about hiphop and the culture. Such a W take, much respect for leaving personal biases out and objectively choosing a winner.
Biggie takes the dub in my opinion. His flow and cadence his mic presence. His voice and how iconic it was. His discography and his classics and the fact that he never had one bad verse.
You could say EXACTLY the same thing about Kendrick, except he has 3x as many albums to pull examples from and demonstrate his consistency. Plus he has way more versatility in his voice and flows and style. Kendrick da GOAT
@@space_orphanwell yeah bc biggie’s dead, also kendrick has like 4 popular songs, and I personally think theyre all not really fun. i love biggies music becasue its fun to lip sync and vibe to, kendrick is very 1 tone in his delivery and hearing “bitch, sit down” isnt nearly as good
Biggie is not an easy win over Pac. Pac is the reason behind modern rap everything you hear is from Pac. Y'all forgot to mention the diversity in Pac from songs like Changes to Troublesome where is Biggies versatility. Also 3K vs Lupe is tough I loved the direction on those two given both 3K, Lupe, and Kendrick can rap about any and everything and it feels deep. 3k Sorry Miss Jackson vs Life of the Party. Lupe's Kick Push versus All Black everything and Kendrick's Ronald Regan Era/Control vs Keisha's Song/anything from TBAP, DAMN, and MMBS. for me its Kendrick/Tupac
@@Python-xs2iv shut up bro, Pac was the greatest conscious rapper ever and rapped about the social issues of his time which are still relevant today. Kendrick has been inspired greatly by Pac.
@@nathanh187 I don't give a shit what he rapped about or who he inspired. His bars were trash and his beats have aged like milk. There's a reason no one gives af about his shitty music nowadays. Ain't no one saying "Put on some Pac!" In 2024. The 90s are over and there's way better music to listen to from that era alone than 2pac.
Man I've always been one of the many people who have always missed out on Jay-Z most of my life and just generally disliked him like a lot of people.... However, over the past few years, after studying his lyrics and whole work in general it just blows my mind on what he's achieved.. No question he's top 3 on ANY list no cap...
he is not disliked by a lot of people, he’s one of the most liked celebrities in general and a rapper he’s liked by most people even if you’re not a fan
@@gamerla-jiah1388 Even though Jay-Z and Beyonce are legends and have very huge fanbases they also have a huge amount of haters who also have a surprisingly huge presence... And it's mostly for very stupid reasons like just general dislike or their music just not hitting their radar or just being the centre of widespread conspiracy theories
@@mohash21 i think i'm one of those haters bruh😂 I really dislike Jay-Z's delivery on most tracks i've heard him on I really enjoyed him on 'Renegade' and 'Niggas in Paris' and his recent '4:44' album. But most of the time, he has this awful wincing delivery to me, like he's trying to sound cool or exaggerate his voice, it doesn't come across organic to me. I dislike most of his verse appearances despite the lyrical content, all because of his voice
That one is hard for me. They’re both in my top 3, and while Eminem is my personal 🐐 (as I’m sure you can tell from my pfp), I can still see the argument for Kendrick. GKMC and TPAB are both damn near perfect albums that are filled with plenty of depth. Every time I listen to either of them, I catch something new. And while I enjoy Eminem albums such as Recovery, Relapse, TES, MMLP, etc. I know that GKMC and TPAB have more depth than a lot of Eminem albums. At the end of the day, I’ll always take Eminem over Kendrick, but I completely understand having Kendrick over Eminem. Both of them will always be hip hop 🐐s whether anyone likes it or not
@@lile8ghtyt2o72 I mean it's only 10 spots... there's so many great rappers over the years..there was so many I wanted to include but I stuck with those 10.
I discovered Nas this year and I’m in my twenties and he’s already left such an impression on me he’s in my top 3 of all time after only a couple months from my first listen I could tell he was a great
y'all forgot some legends like Big L, KRS One and Big Daddy Kane to name a few. Also, no members from Wu Tang? GZA and Ghostface deserve to be in this conversation
Great vid as always, really like the way you guys describe each rapper and definitely you have great perspectives. For me Nas is the greatest rapper of all time. Songs like take it in blood, I gave you power, affirmative action, obviously NY state of mind, it ain't hard to tell, represent are just on an other level.
Kudos to you guys for tackling such a controversial video topic knowing that some fans wouldn’t appreciate the picks. Ultimately,we as fans are here to listen to productive conversations and not about the results. Music is ultimately subjective and we are here for it!
andre takes it 100% man never had a bad verse much less a bad song and any artist lucky enough to feature him puts that song in immediate contention for their greatest song ever. He has the production value of kanye, the lyricism value of nas, and the singing value of lauryn hill he definitely takes the cake
Nas is probably the best rapper when it comes to pure skills, especially if you talk about lyricism. Everybody should have Nas in their top 10, maybe even top 5. He's not my personal favorite, but he's really close (My top 5 is Eminem, Pac, Big, Nas and Ice Cube in this order)
@@deathnum2297 Artist: Big > Pac vs Nas > Em > Cube (Hard between Pac and Nas 'cause of some duds in Nas discography, but he arguably made more classics than Pac. We wouldn't know how Pacs discography would have evolved if he was still here...) Rapper: Em > Big vs Nas > Pac > Cube (Hard here also. Big and Nas both have good storytelling and lyricism, we wouldn't know how Bigs abilities would've evolved if he was still here...)
@@EpicGamertje I wouldn't say that Big is the best of all time, but each one of the 5 I mentioned had something extremely special that made him stand out (Pac's subject matter, Em's rhyming ang wordplay, Big's flow, Ice Cube's gangsta persona, Nas's lyricism)
I agree a couple of these guys can all be on top arguably however the reason I’ll stick by biggie for now is cause how good what we got from him was before he was cut short however if we say biggie would of been the best but can’t be then I’d say nas yeah
13:25 thank you for atleast mentioning that mural is one of the greatest performances of all time because I truly do believe that those two verses are the best I've ever heard
This discussion/debate will always be generational. As a gen xer, I can't leave Rakim, Melle Mel, Ice Cube and Scarface out of my top ten. Melle Mel's verse at the end of Beat Street is imo the greatest verse in hip hop history, but I wouldn't expect anyone under 40 to put him in a goat conversation. Again, it's all generational perspective. But I appreciate this discussion from a younger generation - especially the nods to 90s legends. Good stuff.
For me it's either nas or KRS One When it comes to longevity,impact, consistency, catalogue, wordplay,metaphors,punchlines, storytelling, consciousness etc. They just check all the boxes for me
Love Andre 3000 but Jay Z clears easily because of the longevity and consistency of his career. I don’t think people realize how good Big Boi is and that he is part of outkast discography. It’s much harder to make a great solo album than a great group imo
i love this video so much because both opinions you two give are quite accurate and valid, in my own perspective. also, debatable at a very high tier but i love how us fans can respectfully agree and disagree instead of bashing you two. y’all give the best takes on rappers, albums, catalogs, etc. i absolutely love this podcast
This was a great video! I really don't feel like you guys missed with any of your choices! I'd go with Nas too. As a rapper, he is the greatest of all time. He's just too skilled at everything that makes a great rapper. I would love to see you guys do a video of the greatest hip hop artists of all time! Because I feel like that list would look a lot different. Some of my favorite artists like Kendrick and 2Pac would go a lot further. :)
Nas is the GOAT If you argue about it Challenge whoever the rapper or which ever album against Nasty Nas Illmatic, It Was Written, Stillmatic, Nas Is Like, Thief's Theme, God's Son, The Lost Tapes Imagine coming from illmatic to God's Son, KDs, Magic is a classic already+ KD3 coming on 11th Of October The Greatest Storytelling Rapper with a perfect flow of all-time (product of Slick Rick, Kool G Rap, Rakim,etc)
@@zero-ui1ew What are you talking about? Jay-Z’s double entendres are unmatched by any other rapper. He’s still one of the most talented rappers in the game and he’s 52. No other rapper can say that
I agree. Kendrick is for me at least the most intelligent rapper of all time. But it’s unfair to the people who influenced him (nas, pac, biggie) to put him over them. Kendrick’s defo top 5 tho no doubt. Just cause he’s a 2010s rapper people overlook him in an all time list
i think if kendrick has one or two more near perfect albums youre gonna see him in the top 3 of every list. A lot of people aint considering him yet cuz hes too new, which I think is very fair, compared to people like nas and jay z with 30 years of success or biggie with 2 of the greatest albums to grace rap
do a video where you're talking about new generation rappers, and discussing who their old school rapper counterpart is. for example, pop smoke and biggie, mainly because of their low voices, and they both passed away when they did'nt have too much music out after they blew up, congratulations on 100k!
Denzel curry - del the funky homosapien Mach hommy - mos def Joey badass - basically any goated 90s nyc rapper will work J cole - Blu (i know blu aint old school but they are similar af) Earl sweatshirt - DOOM Tyler the creator - rapping wise eminem/DOOM but production wise lupe fiasco Kendrick lamar - andre 3000
Ain't no way I'm picking 3k over Jayz. Alot of Outkast was Big Boi. Big Boi was a great beat selector and had charisma. He brought that in every song they had. You can't judge 3k properly because he sang on his only solo album.
People ignore 2pacs lyricism, they just see him as a conscious rapper but listen to songs like if I die 2nite, can’t c me, only god can judge me and so many more highly disagree with the conversation that was had about him on this video
It's not even his lyricism, it's his ability to articulate himself so that the lowest intelligence know his message but just enough so the highest can pay attention and know it came from a man of intelligence. No rapper comes close to that, but Nas is better.
Pretty good analysis, but my biggest issue with this video is lack of consistency with the metrics they use for measuring GOAT status. (Disclaimer: I may be SLIGHTLY biased towards Kendrick) For example, when comparing Kendrick to Jay-Z, they give points to Jay-Z for longevity, but then they throw that out the window when comparing Jay-Z to Andre 3k. At this point in history, Kendrick has just as many classics and just as much consistency than Andre 3k ever did (and I'm saying this as a MASSIVE Andre 3k fan). And what about comparing Andre 3k to Biggie? Obviously Biggie's career was cut short, but if you're going to give the win to Jay-Z over Kendrick for longevity, how could you NOT do the same when comparing Andre 3k to Biggie and give the win to Andre 3k? You could argue that Biggie's albums might by SLIGHTLY better than Andre's best, but it would be a really close call, and Andre has 4 classic albums IMO (ATLiens, Aquemini, Stankonia and The Love Below). For me, that consistency easily puts Andre 3K above Biggie. Now, look at Kendrick: Kendrick has put up classic after classic, not a single miss since section.80. Yeah, Biggie had 2 amazing albums and his career was cut short, but I would argue that Kendrick's best 2 albums are better than those (In my opinion, TPAB > Ready to Die, and GKMC > Life after Death, and the NFR podcasters actually agree with me on that if you look at their top 10 albums of all time list), AND Kendrick has 4 more great albums to back him up (secion.80, untitled unmastered, DAMN, Mr. Morale). Kendrick has proven that he not only has longevity, BUT ALSO insane consistency. Anyone who needs more convincing that Biggie shouldn't be a contender should check out HipHopDX's video "Biggie Ain't The GOAT", he puts it better than I ever could. I also think it's absolutely INSANE to say that anyone other than Kendrick has the most versatility. IMO Kendrick has BY FAR the most versatility of any rapper, ever. Period. I don't see how there could be any debate about that fact. Kendrick has more versatility on one track than most rappers have over their entire catalogue (ex: "N95", "family ties", "untitled 02", "Swimming Pools", "Black Friday", and even his live performances like "untitled 03" on Stephen Colbert's show). Then you factor in his crazy variance in the rest of his catalogue, like "These Walls" to "We Cry Together" to "u" to "i" to "Alright" to "untitled 06" to "DNA" to "untitled 08" to "Backseat Freestyle" to "m.a.a.d. city" to "Sing About Me I'm Dying of Thirst" to "Mr. Morale" to "Silent Hill", and on, and on, and on.... No competition. Finally, if you include content/message, again, Kendrick is absolutely untouchable. I can understand if you're not going to include this as a metric for "best rapper" cause maybe you're just looking at technical ability, but I think it really SHOULD be included. IMO the ONLY knock against Kendrick's GOAT status is his mediocre singles Billboard performance. As of July 2023, "Humble" is his only single to top the Billboard charts, and did so for only 1 week. Besides that one track, Kendrick's Billboard performance is pretty abysmal, with his second best performance being "Swimming Pools", which peaked at #17. Compare this to Biggie, who had 2 chart topping singles, 5 that cracked the top 10, and 7 that reached higher than "Swimming Pools". HOWEVER, Nas, who these guys are calling the GOAT, has struggled on the Billboard charts arguably EVEN MORE than Kendrick, so this must mean that this metric isn't actually very important for GOAT status (at least for the NFR Podcasters). Nas' 3 best performing singles are "I Can", which peaked at #12, "Street Dreams", which peaked at #22, and "Made You Look", which peaked at #32. Kendrick is the GOAT.
your opinion is an unpopular one, just look at the top comments… nas is, unfortunately for kendrick, the consensus goat mc. Illmatic is widely considered the goat rap album as well and it will evidently take something even better than tpab to eclipse it,
In my opinion, the rapper who makes the best music is Kanye West. I think his discography is so consistently great and has so many genre bending songs/albums, most artists in any genre can’t really compare. But in terms of who is the best rapper, in technicality and skill(while also considering bodies of work and consistency) I would probably go with Jay-Z. No rapper has the sheer talent that HOV has, his word play, rhyme schemes, and the greatest flow in rap history all separate home from the rest.
Lil Wayne and Kanye without discussion when it comes to discography and influence but I guess Kendrick could also become the best when his discography gets bigger
Viktor Vaughn was a great persona. His Venomous Villain album as Viktor is one of my fav of all time and it didn't even get recognitation compared to his other projects. Great video.
Kendrick for me. Has the best mix of bangers and introspective songs with depth. Has a variety of subject matters. Switches up the style of production and his voice and flows. TPAB is 2nd to none as magnum opus hip hop album. Kanye has my favorite overall discography in hip hop though. Also hip hop has a variety of different types of rappers and ultimately like most goat debates, great is great and it's hard to compare especially when we all have different ideas of what qualifies as being the goat.
Rapper/MC.. Kanye won't be in there. Even though he has an argument as greatest hip hop artiste. Nas is without dount the best rapper/MC of all time considering everything
Really enjoyed the video guys! 🔥🔥🔥 Surprised a few names didn’t enter conversation like Mobb Deeps Prodigy, Big L but most of all surprised DMX wasn’t in the convo! 😮 a few people would say Drake an Mac Miller also but I’d disagree and say they’re better artists than they are rappers. Also, since Nas won I have been hoping you would drop a video for quite sometime ranking Nas’s discography! It’s a video I’m sure many people would want to see! Much love and support from the UK 🇬🇧 keep doing your thing guys 👊
Nas is the greatest of all time. This resurgence he has had from KD1, KD2, and Magic. All 3 are amazing or classic. KD3 will be amazing as well. I believe that Nas has 3 undeniable classics with his 1st, 2nd, and 5th album. I believe The Lost Tapes 1 is also an undeniable classic. Nas….. no competition. Everyone that beefs with him loses or loses badly.
So glad Nas won he’s my favorite and in my opinion the greatest. Imo his first 2 still beat biggies first 2 Top 3 personally not like objective greatness would be 1. Nas 2. Doom 3 Ghostface Tbh tho my 2 and 3 change often
Infinite is hella underrated...I know people didn't like it from a production standpoint but it's a dope album it was some great wordplay in there for sone
exactly how i felt, ain't no way 3000 is better than Hov 😭😭😭 for me Jay is goat if we talk about discography, but about technics and lyrics it's gotta be MF or Biggie
1. Nas 2. Biggie 3. Pac 4. Eminem 5. Jay-Z 6. Black Thought 7. Rakim 8. Andre 3000 9. MF Doom 10. Kendrick Lamar 11. J. Cole 12. Lil Wayne 13. Lauren Hill 14. Lupe Fiasco 15. Kanye West My List
Tech n9ne for me 30 years rapping has over 16 studio albums has one of the greatest flows of all time great lyricist has worked with some of the best artists like pac eminem Wayne Kendrick the game snoop ice cube he's almost 50 still puts out great music and helps the younger generation of up coming artists
Y’all should do something for underrated/underground rappers. Idk if it should be king of the hill or bracket format or just a discussion, but I’d love to see some love for ppl like mick Jenkins, femdot, kenny mason, foggieraw, etc
There are rappers that are superior in there strengths for example eminem's technical ability, kanye or outskast overall artisty, wayne's quotables and pac's relatability and impact. But OVERALL I think the greatest to ever do it is Kendrick lamar.
@@Jegarozar eminem isn’t even 30 years into his career yet so obviously can’t say the same. But look at eminem’s streaming numbers they are ridiculous he has been consistently the only 90’s rapper to hit these types of streaming number than he has right now
Nas is the greatest. He is the only guy whose style never changed. everyone else had an evolution and started differently. Nas has always had the same style from when he opened his mouth as a teenager, and he inspired all these other guys. They changed their style after they heard him, thats what u call Boss and a true master of his craft,. he is the ultimate teacher and lyricist
We need a 2pac, Eminem & Nas, Albums tier list.
My top.3!
throw DMX in there too, and krs one, plus Redman wouldn't hurt either
nah
@@chiTownN1yes
It’s nas all day there sorry
The people need a video ranking all of Kanye’s songs
they did albums if u haven’t seen that, but yes i agree
lift yourself number 1
Carti clears
@@gabrielkissell7464 Lift yourself wins easy
That would be cool!!! 😎
When Ye gets knocked out the first round; you know things about to get real.
😂😂
For me it’s either Nas or DOOM. Both are insane lyricists full of classics
Sorry but Nas on another level.
If KD3 is as good as KD2 and magic it has to be Nas for me
when it comes to pure rapping ability it’s gotta be doom, nas, or andre. But as an artist it’s gotta be kendrick. Best albums, great lyricist, and has songs with great meaning while also sounding sonically amazing
@@astro.8888 agreed
@@astro.8888 very fair take
I agree that Nas is the GOAT. Glad to see you guys putting a lot of respect on some people that still don't seem to get as much credit as they deserve, like Black Thought and Mos Def. Great conversation and a great video.
Yeah, I personally think that some artists could have overtaken nas if they had a longer life like pac or big but nas has proven he can which is why he gets the GOAT title
Rakim is the greatest of all time period with any questions ever asked,, and I’m talking about chronicalogiical and scholarlic,,,,
Nas is seriously not the Goat he can’t touch Rakim at all both lyrically or flow wise Rakim invented them both
@@vernonjohnson1198 sorry Nas is just better bro
All The Way!! Nas Are The Shit!! I Also Have To Go With Cameron And Juelz Santana aka The Diplomats!! Jay Z,. Tupac Shakur And B.I.G aka Biggie Smalls 👑. Forget Eminem.
I’ve been saying Nas is the GOAT for years, and people had the audacity to say that was a hot take
ikr lmao
Nas is the goat it’s a beautiful thing to see that he is finally getting the love he deserves
True, this is the realest video I've seen, just listened to KD3 even imo after illmatic nas had nothing more to prove how great he is, but here he goes at 49 years of age and drops 4 insta classic albums in less than 2 years, truly the best to ever do it
@@georgebruh8325nas isn’t better than Rakim the God emcee
@@vernonjohnson1198 i can't say nothing bad about rakim, he is a legendary mc, i think nas has a better catalogue though, at least i enjoy it more
@@georgebruh8325 Rakim music is better than nas music period,your ears 👂 are limited if you think that nas music is better than Rakim music,,,,we’re is nas one verse iconic classic like paid in full by Rakim,, and just because you have more records made doesn’t mean that your music is better,,Rakim puts more than into his music than nas do
@@vernonjohnson1198 alright man, my ears are limited then lol
8 mile soundtrack is by far the most underrated Eminem project. He had amazing production on so many of the songs and his most underrated and best songs are in it.: lose yourself, 8 mile, rabbit run, rap game, wanksta, 8 miles and running all of which slap so hard.
Yeah, I had to stop watching after they chose Kendrick over Eminem because of the discography when they just said they didn't choose Kanye for that same reason since they felt Kanye was a better hip hop artist but not rapper yet they said they chose Kendrick for the discography...
@@iamhereblossom1588 exactly lmao
@@iamhereblossom1588 Kendrick is better than Em bro 😂
@@jacobvanderhooft2188 They make completely different kinds of hip hop i feel. It's hard to compare and we can have that conversation. That wasn't my point though
I agree. Run rabbit run is just a masteepeice
The people need a video ranking of Nas’s discography 💯🔥🔥🔥
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This video is an absolute hit. The fact that they have Nas as the winner shows just how much they truly know about hiphop and the culture. Such a W take, much respect for leaving personal biases out and objectively choosing a winner.
Wow I love spoilers 😢
@@nelsonomarvalencia-garcia3403 why you reading comments
@@kanyewest610 why you pretending?
Nas being the greatest rapper to me is not an objective opinion
There are no objective opinions on who is the greatest rapper ever
Maybe you guys could do a best rapper of each decade within hip hop. From the 80’s-2020’s.
I am going to go for nas simply because he in my opinion had the best rap album of all time but he has also had the longevity in the rap game.
Don't forget the amazing kings disease 2
he has too mant weak songs
@@photojenic2531 i definitely haven’t such an amazing album I can’t wait for kings disease 3
Illmatic is the most overrated and poorly aging rap album ever mentioned
@@thegreatpiginthesky3904 that's your opinion and it's wrong
My top 5 all time is as follows
1. Eminem
2.Rakim
3. Nas
4.pac
5.Biggie
Biggie takes the dub in my opinion. His flow and cadence his mic presence. His voice and how iconic it was. His discography and his classics and the fact that he never had one bad verse.
You could say EXACTLY the same thing about Kendrick, except he has 3x as many albums to pull examples from and demonstrate his consistency. Plus he has way more versatility in his voice and flows and style. Kendrick da GOAT
@@space_orphanwell yeah bc biggie’s dead, also kendrick has like 4 popular songs, and I personally think theyre all not really fun. i love biggies music becasue its fun to lip sync and vibe to, kendrick is very 1 tone in his delivery and hearing “bitch, sit down” isnt nearly as good
@@LaughgreatYTbro kendrick has 4 popular songs?? And besides that that's how u rate rappers? MF Doom has no popular song, and yet he's a GOAT.
His discography?
He was only able to put out 2 albums lol and imo Ready to die wasn't perfect
@@space_orphanmy list is kendrick biggie hov in that order
Biggie is not an easy win over Pac. Pac is the reason behind modern rap everything you hear is from Pac. Y'all forgot to mention the diversity in Pac from songs like Changes to Troublesome where is Biggies versatility. Also 3K vs Lupe is tough I loved the direction on those two given both 3K, Lupe, and Kendrick can rap about any and everything and it feels deep. 3k Sorry Miss Jackson vs Life of the Party. Lupe's Kick Push versus All Black everything and Kendrick's Ronald Regan Era/Control vs Keisha's Song/anything from TBAP, DAMN, and MMBS. for me its Kendrick/Tupac
Tupac. No one else comes close.
Nobody cares about 2pac anymore bro. I hear zero Pac influence in today's music. Nobody my age even knows he existed 😂
@@Python-xs2iv shut up bro, Pac was the greatest conscious rapper ever and rapped about the social issues of his time which are still relevant today. Kendrick has been inspired greatly by Pac.
@@nathanh187 I don't give a shit what he rapped about or who he inspired. His bars were trash and his beats have aged like milk. There's a reason no one gives af about his shitty music nowadays. Ain't no one saying "Put on some Pac!" In 2024. The 90s are over and there's way better music to listen to from that era alone than 2pac.
@@nathanh187 With that being said, don't argue with the facts. Your favorite rapper is dead and the only thing more dead than him is his shitty music
We need a same video but with producers
30 years of classics. Three different 3peats and KD3 on the way.
Man I've always been one of the many people who have always missed out on Jay-Z most of my life and just generally disliked him like a lot of people.... However, over the past few years, after studying his lyrics and whole work in general it just blows my mind on what he's achieved.. No question he's top 3 on ANY list no cap...
he is not disliked by a lot of people, he’s one of the most liked celebrities in general and a rapper he’s liked by most people even if you’re not a fan
@@gamerla-jiah1388 Even though Jay-Z and Beyonce are legends and have very huge fanbases they also have a huge amount of haters who also have a surprisingly huge presence... And it's mostly for very stupid reasons like just general dislike or their music just not hitting their radar or just being the centre of widespread conspiracy theories
He clearly is.
@@mohash21 i think i'm one of those haters bruh😂
I really dislike Jay-Z's delivery on most tracks i've heard him on
I really enjoyed him on 'Renegade' and 'Niggas in Paris' and his recent '4:44' album.
But most of the time, he has this awful wincing delivery to me, like he's trying to sound cool or exaggerate his voice, it doesn't come across organic to me. I dislike most of his verse appearances despite the lyrical content, all because of his voice
Yeah I'm one of those people that don't care for his music..I tried
yo that Kendrick vs Eminem take is crazy
Really crazy. Almost unsubscribed
@@jaigorman2026 because someone has a different opinion to you? 😂
It really isn’t that crazy
That one is hard for me. They’re both in my top 3, and while Eminem is my personal 🐐 (as I’m sure you can tell from my pfp), I can still see the argument for Kendrick. GKMC and TPAB are both damn near perfect albums that are filled with plenty of depth. Every time I listen to either of them, I catch something new. And while I enjoy Eminem albums such as Recovery, Relapse, TES, MMLP, etc. I know that GKMC and TPAB have more depth than a lot of Eminem albums. At the end of the day, I’ll always take Eminem over Kendrick, but I completely understand having Kendrick over Eminem. Both of them will always be hip hop 🐐s whether anyone likes it or not
@@charliec1712 Impact wise, lyricism wise, flow wise, shit man just skill wise in general. The only one-up Kendrick has is consistency.
1.Nas
2. Eminem
3.Big Pun
4.Big L
5.Biggie
6.Andre 3k
7.Lil Wayne
8.Jay Z
9. Kendrick Lamar
10. Black Thought.
@@lile8ghtyt2o72 I mean it's only 10 spots... there's so many great rappers over the years..there was so many I wanted to include but I stuck with those 10.
Dope list
You got my respect for Big Pun. You have my god damn salute for Big L in the top 5
pac need to be top 3 fo sure
That would be similar to mine, nice choices
Nas is the greatest lyricist , end of conversation
W
Nas, Jay, Lupe and Rakim are all GOAT. There can't be 1 greatest rapper of all time.
Great take.
I would personally add Biggie to this list and then it's true asf
And Thought
Short answer: nas
Long answer: it’s probably nas
I discovered Nas this year and I’m in my twenties and he’s already left such an impression on me he’s in my top 3 of all time after only a couple months from my first listen I could tell he was a great
You’re on the right track 👍
Love the content!
My top 3 goes like this
1. The Notorious B.I.G.
2. Eminem
3. Jay-Z
Artist: K-Dot > Ye > Hov > Em
Rapper: Em > K-Dot > Hov > Ye
The biggest gaps are between the last two in both instances.
Appreciate you Leon! Nice top 3
@@NFRPodcast em goated fr
@@EpicGamertje good take although Id say as an artist ye is prob the best but still great
@@siddharthkuhad3406 Thanks!
y'all forgot some legends like Big L, KRS One and Big Daddy Kane to name a few. Also, no members from Wu Tang? GZA and Ghostface deserve to be in this conversation
Great vid as always, really like the way you guys describe each rapper and definitely you have great perspectives. For me Nas is the greatest rapper of all time. Songs like take it in blood, I gave you power, affirmative action, obviously NY state of mind, it ain't hard to tell, represent are just on an other level.
Everybody has their own opinion, but i wish it was an ultimate ranking that could prove nas is the greatest rapper of all time.
Really getting tired of people saying Kendricks catalog isn't deep enough for the conversation. It is.
couldn't be more satisfied with the end result
you done me proud
Artist: K-Dot > Ye > Hov > Em
Rapper: Em > K-Dot > Hov > Ye
The biggest gaps are between the last two in both instances.
Much love Rob
Kudos to you guys for tackling such a controversial video topic knowing that some fans wouldn’t appreciate the picks.
Ultimately,we as fans are here to listen to productive conversations and not about the results.
Music is ultimately subjective and we are here for it!
Amen 🙏🏻
Artist: K-Dot > Ye > Hov > Em
Rapper: Em > K-Dot > Hov > Ye
The biggest gaps are between the last two in both instances.
Thank you for the love, hope you got a kick out of the convo!
@@NFRPodcast yeah, personally for me i would have chosen 2pac over biggie, but its just my opinion
@@EpicGamertje horrible take
andre takes it 100% man never had a bad verse much less a bad song and any artist lucky enough to feature him puts that song in immediate contention for their greatest song ever. He has the production value of kanye, the lyricism value of nas, and the singing value of lauryn hill he definitely takes the cake
Mamacita is a big miss imo
Lauren hill is a way better singer in every way
Lauryn hill already has cake wdym
But he doesn’t have a long and solid solo career tho, which I think is kinda essential for being one of the greatest
3 stacks is top 5 oat, arguably the most talented rapper ever, he could act and plag guitar as well, mf was built like prince
Nas is the best and most pure Mc/rapper of all time. He's currently still making classics. The goat of all goats💯💯💯💯💯
Nas is probably the best rapper when it comes to pure skills, especially if you talk about lyricism. Everybody should have Nas in their top 10, maybe even top 5. He's not my personal favorite, but he's really close (My top 5 is Eminem, Pac, Big, Nas and Ice Cube in this order)
@@deathnum2297 Artist: Big > Pac vs Nas > Em > Cube (Hard between Pac and Nas 'cause of some duds in Nas discography, but he arguably made more classics than Pac. We wouldn't know how Pacs discography would have evolved if he was still here...)
Rapper: Em > Big vs Nas > Pac > Cube (Hard here also. Big and Nas both have good storytelling and lyricism, we wouldn't know how Bigs abilities would've evolved if he was still here...)
@@EpicGamertje I wouldn't say that Big is the best of all time, but each one of the 5 I mentioned had something extremely special that made him stand out (Pac's subject matter, Em's rhyming ang wordplay, Big's flow, Ice Cube's gangsta persona, Nas's lyricism)
I agree a couple of these guys can all be on top arguably however the reason I’ll stick by biggie for now is cause how good what we got from him was before he was cut short however if we say biggie would of been the best but can’t be then I’d say nas yeah
@@deathnum2297 I like your explanation!
13:25 thank you for atleast mentioning that mural is one of the greatest performances of all time because I truly do believe that those two verses are the best I've ever heard
This discussion/debate will always be generational. As a gen xer, I can't leave Rakim, Melle Mel, Ice Cube and Scarface out of my top ten. Melle Mel's verse at the end of Beat Street is imo the greatest verse in hip hop history, but I wouldn't expect anyone under 40 to put him in a goat conversation. Again, it's all generational perspective. But I appreciate this discussion from a younger generation - especially the nods to 90s legends. Good stuff.
And then Nas dropped KD 3 after this video which is also a fantastic album, the man just doesn’t stop!
Amazing choices of rappers, kinda sad they didnt incude Ghostface, Raekwon, Big Pun, Big L, Ice Cube or KRS one though 🥺
When it comes to pure rapping ability, technicality and lyricism I’m going with the Villain MF DOOM
Nas for me no question
W
For me it's either nas or KRS One
When it comes to longevity,impact, consistency, catalogue, wordplay,metaphors,punchlines, storytelling, consciousness etc. They just check all the boxes for me
KRS is probably the most complete rapper ever
Nas, Black Thought, Kool G Rap and MF DOOM are the only rappers I can really argue for being the GOAT
Yeah I agree.
Love Andre 3000 but Jay Z clears easily because of the longevity and consistency of his career. I don’t think people realize how good Big Boi is and that he is part of outkast discography. It’s much harder to make a great solo album than a great group imo
Without a doubt it’s Nas
Illmatic 💞🤞🏼
Kendrick
@@sethtaleni9658 Nothing but respect for Kendrick but there’s a dozen rappers I’d put above him
@@loutzzzz Can you name them because I can’t think of one I would put over Kendrick?
@@sethtaleni9658 black thought, Lupe, André 3000, Kool G Rap, any of the Wu-Tang Members, Biggie, Mos def plus many more
I can respect illmatic as one of the greats, but to be honest i prefer It Was Written over Illmatic
i love this video so much because both opinions you two give are quite accurate and valid, in my own perspective. also, debatable at a very high tier but i love how us fans can respectfully agree and disagree instead of bashing you two. y’all give the best takes on rappers, albums, catalogs, etc. i absolutely love this podcast
This was a great video! I really don't feel like you guys missed with any of your choices! I'd go with Nas too. As a rapper, he is the greatest of all time. He's just too skilled at everything that makes a great rapper. I would love to see you guys do a video of the greatest hip hop artists of all time! Because I feel like that list would look a lot different. Some of my favorite artists like Kendrick and 2Pac would go a lot further. :)
You have great taste my man
Nas is the GOAT
If you argue about it Challenge whoever the rapper or which ever album against Nasty Nas Illmatic, It Was Written, Stillmatic, Nas Is Like, Thief's Theme, God's Son, The Lost Tapes
Imagine coming from illmatic to God's Son, KDs, Magic is a classic already+ KD3 coming on 11th Of October
The Greatest Storytelling Rapper with a perfect flow of all-time (product of Slick Rick, Kool G Rap, Rakim,etc)
kendrick
@@papagutsuperfan_9928 I respect your opinion but
He is like a Son to Nas no doubt and if you got a challenge you can challenge it
@@papagutsuperfan_9928 Lmao No 😂😂😂😂
kd3 coming 11th november
Thank you guys for this video. I really love when people Talk About somethin' they know, they love, they stand for
I'd have to pick Jay-Z on this one. I don't know but his flow is brilliant and his music is addicting for me
Artist: K-Dot > Ye > Hov > Em
Rapper: Em > K-Dot > Hov > Ye
The biggest gaps are between the last two in both instances.
His flow is his biggest knock😅
His flow and lyrics are b tier.his beat selection and production is what carries him not even top 10 as a rapper.maybe as an artist
@@zero-ui1ew casual take. he’s easily a top ten rapper.
@@zero-ui1ew What are you talking about? Jay-Z’s double entendres are unmatched by any other rapper. He’s still one of the most talented rappers in the game and he’s 52. No other rapper can say that
Kendrick is
Nas' lyricism
Pac's concepts and poetry
Big's technicality
Em's storytelling
With a dash of Jay's entredes
All rolled into one
I agree. Kendrick is for me at least the most intelligent rapper of all time. But it’s unfair to the people who influenced him (nas, pac, biggie) to put him over them. Kendrick’s defo top 5 tho no doubt. Just cause he’s a 2010s rapper people overlook him in an all time list
@@pacmanpanda9557 Kemdrick was made in a lab he's too good
i think if kendrick has one or two more near perfect albums youre gonna see him in the top 3 of every list. A lot of people aint considering him yet cuz hes too new, which I think is very fair, compared to people like nas and jay z with 30 years of success or biggie with 2 of the greatest albums to grace rap
Kendrick is not on nas level lol
He don’t have the concepts of nas storytelling lmfao
@@Goat-xw9ox Nas is above him, no shit, but he's still not that far behind. Everyone else in his generation is miles behind.
do a video where you're talking about new generation rappers, and discussing who their old school rapper counterpart is. for example, pop smoke and biggie, mainly because of their low voices, and they both passed away when they did'nt have too much music out after they blew up, congratulations on 100k!
We’ve been thinking about doing this for awhile Zac! Just searching for a great title for this concept🤔
@@NFRPodcast Ok!
Denzel curry - del the funky homosapien
Mach hommy - mos def
Joey badass - basically any goated 90s nyc rapper will work
J cole - Blu (i know blu aint old school but they are similar af)
Earl sweatshirt - DOOM
Tyler the creator - rapping wise eminem/DOOM but production wise lupe fiasco
Kendrick lamar - andre 3000
@@sunflowersamurai10 Kendrick is old school bruh you tweaking
@@zacaryanderson7764 not really
Ain't no way I'm picking 3k over Jayz. Alot of Outkast was Big Boi. Big Boi was a great beat selector and had charisma. He brought that in every song they had. You can't judge 3k properly because he sang on his only solo album.
I'm going with kendrick all the way, I'm just a big fan of him and I think he's one of the greatest
The greatest. Nas has two classic albums. Kendrick has 5
@@zimdollar3229 I would say 4 cause section 80 ain’t all that
@@userJFK it is all that and untitled unmastered
@@userJFK section 80 ain’t all that? Lmao. I know that’s a opinion just a garbage one.
People ignore 2pacs lyricism, they just see him as a conscious rapper but listen to songs like if I die 2nite, can’t c me, only god can judge me and so many more highly disagree with the conversation that was had about him on this video
PREACH!!!
The rhyme schemes on Only God can judge me are pretty sick especially the first verse
Exactly, 2Pac got lyrics!
AGREED, and same with Kendrick. IMO 1. Kendrick, 2. Tupac, 3. Nas, 4. Black Thought, 5. Andre 3k, 6. Eminem, 7. Biggie.
It's not even his lyricism, it's his ability to articulate himself so that the lowest intelligence know his message but just enough so the highest can pay attention and know it came from a man of intelligence. No rapper comes close to that, but Nas is better.
Pretty good analysis, but my biggest issue with this video is lack of consistency with the metrics they use for measuring GOAT status. (Disclaimer: I may be SLIGHTLY biased towards Kendrick)
For example, when comparing Kendrick to Jay-Z, they give points to Jay-Z for longevity, but then they throw that out the window when comparing Jay-Z to Andre 3k. At this point in history, Kendrick has just as many classics and just as much consistency than Andre 3k ever did (and I'm saying this as a MASSIVE Andre 3k fan). And what about comparing Andre 3k to Biggie? Obviously Biggie's career was cut short, but if you're going to give the win to Jay-Z over Kendrick for longevity, how could you NOT do the same when comparing Andre 3k to Biggie and give the win to Andre 3k? You could argue that Biggie's albums might by SLIGHTLY better than Andre's best, but it would be a really close call, and Andre has 4 classic albums IMO (ATLiens, Aquemini, Stankonia and The Love Below). For me, that consistency easily puts Andre 3K above Biggie. Now, look at Kendrick: Kendrick has put up classic after classic, not a single miss since section.80. Yeah, Biggie had 2 amazing albums and his career was cut short, but I would argue that Kendrick's best 2 albums are better than those (In my opinion, TPAB > Ready to Die, and GKMC > Life after Death, and the NFR podcasters actually agree with me on that if you look at their top 10 albums of all time list), AND Kendrick has 4 more great albums to back him up (secion.80, untitled unmastered, DAMN, Mr. Morale). Kendrick has proven that he not only has longevity, BUT ALSO insane consistency. Anyone who needs more convincing that Biggie shouldn't be a contender should check out HipHopDX's video "Biggie Ain't The GOAT", he puts it better than I ever could.
I also think it's absolutely INSANE to say that anyone other than Kendrick has the most versatility. IMO Kendrick has BY FAR the most versatility of any rapper, ever. Period. I don't see how there could be any debate about that fact. Kendrick has more versatility on one track than most rappers have over their entire catalogue (ex: "N95", "family ties", "untitled 02", "Swimming Pools", "Black Friday", and even his live performances like "untitled 03" on Stephen Colbert's show). Then you factor in his crazy variance in the rest of his catalogue, like "These Walls" to "We Cry Together" to "u" to "i" to "Alright" to "untitled 06" to "DNA" to "untitled 08" to "Backseat Freestyle" to "m.a.a.d. city" to "Sing About Me I'm Dying of Thirst" to "Mr. Morale" to "Silent Hill", and on, and on, and on.... No competition.
Finally, if you include content/message, again, Kendrick is absolutely untouchable. I can understand if you're not going to include this as a metric for "best rapper" cause maybe you're just looking at technical ability, but I think it really SHOULD be included.
IMO the ONLY knock against Kendrick's GOAT status is his mediocre singles Billboard performance. As of July 2023, "Humble" is his only single to top the Billboard charts, and did so for only 1 week. Besides that one track, Kendrick's Billboard performance is pretty abysmal, with his second best performance being "Swimming Pools", which peaked at #17. Compare this to Biggie, who had 2 chart topping singles, 5 that cracked the top 10, and 7 that reached higher than "Swimming Pools". HOWEVER, Nas, who these guys are calling the GOAT, has struggled on the Billboard charts arguably EVEN MORE than Kendrick, so this must mean that this metric isn't actually very important for GOAT status (at least for the NFR Podcasters). Nas' 3 best performing singles are "I Can", which peaked at #12, "Street Dreams", which peaked at #22, and "Made You Look", which peaked at #32.
Kendrick is the GOAT.
your opinion is an unpopular one, just look at the top comments… nas is, unfortunately for kendrick, the consensus goat mc. Illmatic is widely considered the goat rap album as well and it will evidently take something even better than tpab to eclipse it,
Damn I agree
My best of all time
1- 2pac
2- BIG
3- Eminem
You just found Hip Hop congrats. Hopefully your list evolved a year later.
Hopefully you've realized how trash 2pac actually is
@@Python-xs2iv spoken like a 3 year old
@@RapIsLife2000 Wtf are you talking about? I'm on your side
@@Python-xs2iv Pac isn't trash tho lol what's your top 5
J Cole is always overlooked and underrated.
No
@@zimdollar3229 I mean, yeah…
He doesnt have an album above an 8, he good but nowhere near a GOAT placement
@@Thomas-if7te just say you don’t know rap and move on 😂
@@Thomas-if7te I agree actually he’s good but not top 20 good
In my opinion, the rapper who makes the best music is Kanye West. I think his discography is so consistently great and has so many genre bending songs/albums, most artists in any genre can’t really compare. But in terms of who is the best rapper, in technicality and skill(while also considering bodies of work and consistency) I would probably go with Jay-Z. No rapper has the sheer talent that HOV has, his word play, rhyme schemes, and the greatest flow in rap history all separate home from the rest.
Nas and biggie
Nas and Kendrick 💯💯
Lil Wayne and Kanye without discussion when it comes to discography and influence but I guess Kendrick could also become the best when his discography gets bigger
Kendrick > Kanye > Wayne
Artist: K-Dot > Ye > Hov > Em
Rapper: Em > K-Dot > Hov > Ye
The biggest gaps are between the last two in both instances.
@@EpicGamertje nah bro Eminem after 2009 became boring af
Ant is always playing devils advocate 😂 and I love it
More André 3k respect ‼️
The debate is hard af, i could name like 50+ different mc's with a decent shout for goat status
That’s the thing with hip hop there are too many greats. It’s best if we boil it down to top 10 and leave it at that.
Amazing concept, you could do the best rappers for each decade next time .. would be awesome
Top 3:
Nas
Kendrick
Jay
After recent album K Dot got in that top3
Viktor Vaughn was a great persona. His Venomous Villain album as Viktor is one of my fav of all time and it didn't even get recognitation compared to his other projects.
Great video.
Do you mean Vaudeville
@@MichaelTurner856 No Venomous Villlain is another album of Doom, as his Viktor Vaughn character.
Kendrick for me.
Has the best mix of bangers and introspective songs with depth.
Has a variety of subject matters.
Switches up the style of production and his voice and flows.
TPAB is 2nd to none as magnum opus hip hop album.
Kanye has my favorite overall discography in hip hop though.
Also hip hop has a variety of different types of rappers and ultimately like most goat debates, great is great and it's hard to compare especially when we all have different ideas of what qualifies as being the goat.
Gkmc damn and section 80 are up there as well. I hope he goes back to gangster rap
@@zimdollar3229 he never did gangster rap. Just self reflective or socially aware relatable music.
Rapper/MC.. Kanye won't be in there. Even though he has an argument as greatest hip hop artiste. Nas is without dount the best rapper/MC of all time considering everything
I agree with that last point
Personally...Cole is a better bar for bar rapper than Kendrick
No 🤣🤣🤣 just say you lack intelligence next time.
Really enjoyed the video guys! 🔥🔥🔥 Surprised a few names didn’t enter conversation like Mobb Deeps Prodigy, Big L but most of all surprised DMX wasn’t in the convo! 😮 a few people would say Drake an Mac Miller also but I’d disagree and say they’re better artists than they are rappers. Also, since Nas won I have been hoping you would drop a video for quite sometime ranking Nas’s discography! It’s a video I’m sure many people would want to see! Much love and support from the UK 🇬🇧 keep doing your thing guys 👊
Man, people sleep on Kendrick's production and ear for production imo
Nas is the greatest of all time. This resurgence he has had from KD1, KD2, and Magic. All 3 are amazing or classic. KD3 will be amazing as well. I believe that Nas has 3 undeniable classics with his 1st, 2nd, and 5th album. I believe The Lost Tapes 1 is also an undeniable classic. Nas….. no competition. Everyone that beefs with him loses or loses badly.
You woke up and chose to speak facts
Magic is even better than KD2 (more consistency). The Lost Tapes feels like an underrated classic (gem).
You were right. KD3 is amazing.
Nas can’t touch Rakim by any means,,,were is nas one verse iconic classic like paid in full,,follow the leader and lyrics of fury,,,Rakim d
Kendrick over Eminem is insane for real
Eminem boring bro
You guys are awesome and really know your stuff. Would love to see a video of both your top 5 rappers
So glad Nas won he’s my favorite and in my opinion the greatest. Imo his first 2 still beat biggies first 2
Top 3 personally not like objective greatness would be
1. Nas
2. Doom
3 Ghostface
Tbh tho my 2 and 3 change often
Facts
Always Em man....1996-1999 always my favorite era of this guy💪💪💪🔥🔥🔥
wut... weird era...
1996-2003
Infinite is hella underrated...I know people didn't like it from a production standpoint but it's a dope album it was some great wordplay in there for sone
My top 3
1. Eminem
2. Nas
3. Kendrick Lamar
you can tell when they're going for shorts clips its really funny
My Top 3 Are Nas, Eminem, and Rakim
Em ain't even top 10
@@rogue9230 Fr fr
He at least top 5 dead or alive
Ya really put 3000 over Jay-Z 😭😭😭
exactly how i felt, ain't no way 3000 is better than Hov 😭😭😭 for me Jay is goat if we talk about discography, but about technics and lyrics it's gotta be MF or Biggie
I’m going with Kendrick. I think pound for pound he is untouchable.
Bruhhh 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ come on now; he’s not even the best rapper out right now and I’m a huge Kendrick fan
@@061jharris well yeah, his prime was 7 years ago you silly goose. Go ahead a discuss your opinion before doggin others
ur funny 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@061jharris He is easily the best
I'm not gonnaie, you guys were reall fair in this.
Yes thank you for giving Nas his props! I can listen to you guys talk about music all day long
I really think DOOM the best MC on here and of all time. Great video
@@lile8ghtyt2o72 agreed
@@nicksummers2016 hes almost too good to be true, he's like the rapper every hardcore rap nerd wish they could be
My Top 3
#1. Biggie
#2. Nas
#3. Eminem
Nas and Eminem better
Half Biggies catalogue is just him talking about sex haha Nas > Eminem isn't even top 10 stop.
@@RapIsLife2000 These are my top 3 favorite rappers.
@@RapIsLife2000 oh yeah I got DMX at #4 & LL Cool J at #5. Like I said these are my top 5 favorites.
1. Nas
2. Biggie
3. Pac
4. Eminem
5. Jay-Z
6. Black Thought
7. Rakim
8. Andre 3000
9. MF Doom
10. Kendrick Lamar
11. J. Cole
12. Lil Wayne
13. Lauren Hill
14. Lupe Fiasco
15. Kanye West
My List
Tech n9ne for me 30 years rapping has over 16 studio albums has one of the greatest flows of all time great lyricist has worked with some of the best artists like pac eminem Wayne Kendrick the game snoop ice cube he's almost 50 still puts out great music and helps the younger generation of up coming artists
🤡
Tbh tech n9ne isn't one of my favorites, but he really is one of the greats and it's awesome that someone finally shows respect
@@lateksipumppu Tech is quality every album
@@xxghost6109 oh you insulted me sorry you don't agree enjoy the music you like
Y’all should do something for underrated/underground rappers. Idk if it should be king of the hill or bracket format or just a discussion, but I’d love to see some love for ppl like mick Jenkins, femdot, kenny mason, foggieraw, etc
Who?
No order
1. Em
2.Pac
3.Biggie
4.Jay-z
5.Wheezy
Nas is the goat best lyricist best storyteller best catalog
Big > Jay-Z > Nas
@@EpicGamertje Nas > Big > Pac > Jay
Nas>Big>Em>Jay>Pac
@@user-qv5qq9ss9h Nas > Jay > Big > Pac > Eminem.
Did they really just choose Kendrick over Eminem?
Yep. Mad stan?
Nas is the best lyricist & no one uses imagery like him.
1. Jay Z
2. Nas
3. 3 Stacks
4. Biggie
5. K Dot
6. 2 Pac
7. Em
8. J Cole
9. Weezy
10. Ghostface
My top "10"
1. Ghostface Killah
2. Nas
3. Big L
4. MF DOOM
5. GZA
6. Lil Wayne
7. Kool Keith
8. Big Pun
9. Red man
10. Lauryn Hill or Method Man
Love the video but Hov losing to 3k had me screaming at the screen🤣🤣🤣
Great podcast MTL stand up💪
No Ceilings Lil Wayne was a monster lyrically
And Drought 3
There are rappers that are superior in there strengths for example eminem's technical ability, kanye or outskast overall artisty, wayne's quotables and pac's relatability and impact. But OVERALL I think the greatest to ever do it is Kendrick lamar.
Glad to see MF DOOM Black thought and Lupe instead of just going Pac, Em, Hov, Nas and Biggie
Artist: K-Dot > Ye > Hov > Em
Rapper: Em > K-Dot > Hov > Ye
The biggest gaps are between the last two in both instances.
as a huge eminem fan i agree
@@ralph815 Dope!
no one has a better longevity than eminem and nas
Only Nas and Hov have been dropping great albums after 30 years
@@Jegarozar
eminem isn’t even 30 years into his career yet so obviously can’t say the same. But look at eminem’s streaming numbers they are ridiculous he has been consistently the only 90’s rapper to hit these types of streaming number than he has right now
Eminem hasn't dropped a good album in 2 decades. Longevity hurt him. Nas had a long period of bad releases too, he's turned it around again though
That’s great but his last projects are nowhere near 4:44 and last 3 Nas albums
Eminem should’ve retired 15 years ago
Nas is the greatest. He is the only guy whose style never changed. everyone else had an evolution and started differently. Nas has always had the same style from when he opened his mouth as a teenager, and he inspired all these other guys. They changed their style after they heard him, thats what u call Boss and a true master of his craft,. he is the ultimate teacher and lyricist
imma say EMINEM, he got me into listening rap, so he’ll forever be top for me.
Just say you’re white
@@damien4969 i’m actually brown lol
@@damien4969 wasted
@@kdot78 things you’ll never hear: Eminem in a black neighborhood
@@damien4969 you don't have enough knowledge