They even treated him human. Instead of reprogramming him, they just reasoned with him to lie about his humanity. The OCP scumbag did have a point. Murphy can't go back to his old life and trying to do so will only hurt his wife and kid.
@@tokuwriter2872 The 2014 remake is a product of "They spent so much time asking themselves if they could they never bothered to ask if they should." The 2014 remake wasn't terrible, but it wasn't terribly good either. I'm just thankful it didn't set Joel Kinnaman back because he was absolutely brilliant in Altered Carbon.
"Can you give her love? A man's love?" "rofl are you serious? I have machine precision and can oscillate my hand at variable speeds between 5000-6000 Hz. Your wife would divorce you if she met me."
(Li-Li Mandragon) Okay, you didn't seem to understand, that's lust, just a feeling, and feelings pass, love should be about companionship, the most intimate relationship between a man and a woman, where you complete each other, despite your flaws, mistakes, whatever, it's something people just don't seem to understand nowadays, love should be a real emotion, not just a throwaway feeling. Guess I just ruined your joke there. But hey, I guess it's just not my type of humor.
(Fetty Krill wished back once again) Yeah I know that, but like I said before, it's just not my type of humor. I mean I get that a lot of people do prefer that kind of humor, but I guess I can't push aside the deeper meanings of things as easily as others.
"They made this to honor him. You husband is dead. I don't know you." It's on the same level as: "I know now why you cry. But it is something I can never do."
T2 doesn't hold up as well as Robocop. It really suffered from having the violence toned down, which produces more sensitive moments like you quoted above. "Listen, and understand. That terminator is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead." *THAT'* is the terminator.
@@daddy042 they did with T2 what they did with the second Dirty Harry which is water down the violence and add comic relief. T2 was better when it came out but Robocop really was superior and has better stood the test of time. Its really robocop vs Terminator, where the first fiöm wins hands down.
"I don't know you." The way Peter Weller delivered this line is brilliant. He says it in a cold and robotic tone, but at the same time there's a slight shake to his voice as well, as if Murphy is trying hard not to cry. This is the last time he will ever see or talk to his wife, and this is the only way he can say goodbye to her.
Murphy maybe 95% cybernetic, but at the core, lies the most advanced machine ever conceived, a human brain. Even after OCP tried to make him their own robot slave, the man named Murphy lived on.
The stark contrast between the soft "They made this, to honor him" and the steely "Your husband is dead - I don't know you". Weller's delivery was pure genius.
This is the pure definition of tough love. Alex could see the hope in his wife's eyes. But he knew that he could never have the life he once had with her. That's why he was so cold. He didn't want to give her any kind of hope of them being together. So, he didn't just rip the bandaid off, he ripped the heart right out.
He should have reunited with them. It didn’t matter if he was a machine or not. She even said it didn’t matter what they did to him. If OCP didn’t tell him what to do then he should have reunited with his wife. He was still Alex Murphy
Someone is missing the point of this scene. OCP are trying to avoid a lawsuit by having him admit he is not Murphy. He is still Murphy but the lawyer brings up the valid point that he is no longer capable of offering human affections to his wife. He begrudgingly admits to being just a machine for the camera & then lies to his wife as a means of letting her move on with her life. It's a tragic scene that emphasises how he is truly alone.
I like how before Murphy was told that he was simply a machine, his voice sounded very human and organic but when he was told that he was a machine, his voice turned back into a more robotic tone. Just a little detail that really shows the audience how the human element in him gets crushed by what people tell him.
it's also ironic that they're reprimanding him in the same way that they would reprimand a human being instead of bringing him over to his builders to get some kind of "fixing" (like how machines are supposedly treated whenever a human sees a flaw in it)
+Ivyn Taasin I haven't seen the new film, but I saw a clip "show me" and that seemed very impresive, not same but still shows the struggle of a man turned into a machine.
+Wrzeszcz100 I've seen the new one. I mean when you're watching it you can't compare it to the older film. The new one is okay. Didn't quite suck but it wasn't great either. Rather forgettable. Not a masterpiece like this one.
+Ivyn Taasin In this movie murphy is really questioning his humanity more like a machine would do, what makes it just more interessting. The reboot is basically about a guy who is still human, but got his body replaced with something else.
Here, Robocop is confused on whether if there's still any humanity left in him at all, & confused about whether he has been turned entirely into a machine. in the new one, he's unmistakably human, despite all his cybernetic parts, so much so that it's easy to forget that he's mostly machine. in this one, people see him as a robot with a human face. in the new one, a human with robotic parts.
It's obvious Murphy is lying here in order to protect his family and give them a chance to move on. In the series "Robocop: Prime Directives", his son James, now working for OCP finds out his father is Robocop and tries to destroy him with an EMP device because he didn't try to remain a part of his life. But he spared Murphy after Murphy took his helmet off and revealed himself to James. He even cried when James hugged him. He's stuck in a cyborg limbo, not alive or dead, neither truly a man or fully a machine. He believes he can't be a husband or a father in his condition, so he's trying to push them away so they can try to move on without him.
Alex: What kind of a father would I have been for you? James: Any kind of father would have been better than non at all THAT part hurts. Especially when James almost flicked the switch with Robo telling him to look in his eyes before he does it. The lines themselves got to me
Hmm oh ok then. He could be with me I don't see just the outside but what's in his heart and mind at least what's left of that. Well that's just awkward af. You can offer more I'm guessing. Hmm.
That's really the question isn't it? Did Alex Murphy in fact die, and is Robocop just a cyborg who is simply accessing Murphy's memories and assume as it's own?
search youtube, type in "Robocop The human factor" then you're left with 2 choices, either watch the fanmade one wich is the first 2 episodes of the TV series episodes (badass IMO) or the original one, "the human factor", wich takes murphy to confront his parents. you won't be dissapointed, trust me.
I never understood why Murphy’s wife apparently moved back to Detroit. They didn’t provided any word that she was remarried. An outline for the film explained that RoboCop was going out of town to observe them and she did have a new husband.
Robocop may be remembered as an awesome action film, but it is a horrific and tragic story. The poor guy literally went through hell on earth and is aware of it all, even as a machine. Lost his self, his family, and most of his humanity to a bunch of trash thugs.
But, rises up like a phoenix. Stronger than ever; his will to survive, to carry out his duty, to protect the innocent, to uphold the law. It’s sad, but he became a symbol for hope and true utter Justice. Proving all of his creators, all his enemies, even all of his doubts wrong. He is not just Murphy, or Robocop. He is the Future of Law Enforcement!
I bet this was hard for Peter as an actor. He's wrestling with these emotions, and really showing how much Robo is hurting, but had to be sure not to produce a single tear because Robocop can't cry
@@Shadothecat 10 hours of makeup to get there and probably 4-6 to get the hell outta there. Except he did have to put himself in a dark place to get that performance.
I remember watching this movie as a kid and feeling so sad for Murphy. Like his humanity is still there. He remembers his life and family and that's what he wants. Yet he was subjected to a fate worse than death in my opinion.
He doesn't remember his old life or his family though, all he has is a few flashbacks of them, he isn't the same person with most of his memory gone. If the armed robber didn't recognise him and tell him at the garage scene in the first film, he would never even have worked out the flashback of being shot was anything more than a dream, he would not have had the records to search of the gang and wouldn't have even found his abandoned house.
One other detail that makes me sad for Robo, is that he retains Murphy’s gun twirling habit, which was originally a trick that he learned to impress his son before it eventually became a tic that stuck with him, even after he became Robocop.
+DwayneHicks426 You're right. People bitch about this film because Robo is less human than what he appeared at the end of the last film. But this scene shows that all the company programming reverted him back to realizing that he is still a machine. It's very sad, but Robo is still a bad-ass.
***** Yeah, that's more like it. I agree. OCP is manipulative and want Murphy to remain a loyal piece of their property. The scene were Murphy meets his wife just solidifies his stranglehold within the company. Plus, he just wants his wife to move on as he knows now that he can never be the same Alex Murphy she once knew. It would have been cool if we saw another couple of conflicting emotion scenes like this, though, but I know why they did it that way.
How to annihilate a human being in his dignity. I have been always close to Murphy's life drama, because he hasn't got any fault for his condition, and nonetheless he has to suffer and endure all the insults made to him, aside the physical injuries, and the human disembodiment done to his soul. He is still the most human in that disarray of wretched souls he works with, exceptions made, for instance, Lewis and the cop chief.
The chief and Lewis are the omly equals to him in that company regarding humanity as you say. And I can say many people with disabilities faces similar insults that Murphy is subjected to on a daily basis so I can really empathise with him as me myself have some of them and actually have had an artificial implant in my body. (That is removed now as they found another way to treat my hydrocephalus.)
In the novelization, they actually further explored Murphy's psychology. This scene happens much later in the book, but after being told by the lawyers to stay away from her, RoboCop drives to a junkyard to ponder what he has become... "He closed his eyes and daydreamed, seeing himself frozen solid by rust. He envisioned the mighty magnets lifting his long out-modeled, creaky, corroded body toward the conveyor belt. The conveyor accepting the offering without question. The whining, flailing machine nourished itself on Robo's body, tearing it to pieces with rotating, razor-sharp teeth." Fortunately, Lewis arrives to snap RoboCop out of his suicidal thoughts and remind him of who he is. Also, the Marvel comic adaptation added another scene where Murphy visits his own grave and stares at his tombstone.
I really hate what OCP represents in these movies. The idea that money comes before everything else, no matter what. That everything can be justified so long as you can make a profit out of it. "Is Robocop man or machine? Who cares? A man thinks and feels. A man has rights and that complicates things. A machine has no rights. It's a thing that can be owned and commanded. Much simpler and much more profitable. What if it turns out that Robocop is not just a machine? That he is in fact still a man? Hide it. Do everything you can to make it seem like he is just a machine. Protect the investment at any cost. But what about Murphy? Again, who cares? We want money." It's greed in it's purest form and it's sickening to watch.
I'm sorry but Apple comes to mind 🤔. This is easily one of my favourite films. It gives you an example of how scary and violent the world can be on the street and how within a corporation the violence greed and unscrupulous nature of people can also be displayed in the most disturbing manner
I've adored these films since I was 4 years old and I'm proud to say they still are my favourites. There's just so much to them I just wish they made alot more of them.
The most heartbreaking thing, is not only she lost her husband, but OCP made a bizarre being, with his corpse. On the other hand, Murphy is still there.
The sad part is this isn't Robocop speaking, it's Alex, but he realizes that it wouldn't work, so he fakes being Robocop to spare his wife from the pain. OCP probably lied to her saying he'd still be the same person and said that their lives would return as normal after he comes back. The movie also states Robocop is loved by the city's kids, so his son probably thinks he's cool and maybe has toys of him, imagine how painful it is for her, seeing their son idolizing his father her husband's corpse.
Amazing how even in a cheesy 90’s film about a Robocop, this scene was written in it. Probably the best scene in my opinion, that and the end when he fights the other robot. Very sad and heartbreaking, because you know he is still very much in tone with his humanity.
It's heartbreaking to see Murphy silently agree with the asshole. Also, that guy in the back is the Lawyer who insulted Arnie and got a pen in the back.
Good for him, that shows he’s a truly good man that’s willing to do what was necessary to give his wife a chance to live and be loved when he knew he couldn’t give those things to her as much as she deserved.
The practical effects still blows my mind and it still blows most modern day cgi out of the water. Look at this 3:14, tell me that doesn't look like flesh stretched out. Freaking scary actually, how real that looks.
This movie is waaay ahead of its time. The sequels were enjoyable but I think that part 1 ended perfectly when old man asked "Nice shooting son. What's your name?" He turns with a smile and says "Murphy" and the epic music drops. Perfect f*cking ending!
He knew her. But he wanted to protect her and his son, so he said that Alex Murphy doesn't exist anymore. He wanted to give them a chance to get over his death. And he did it because he still loves them, even as a cyborg.
This is one of the few scenes in the latter films that managed to perfectly capture the tragedy of Alex Murphy's existence as Robocop. Definitely one of my favorite scenes of the series.
It's very HEARTBREAKING when Alex musst say to he's wife I DONT KNOW YOU because he knew what awaits for him when he don't obey to order but most PAINFUL was to watch he's wife seeing her hearing what Alex tells her and then turn back and went from her and she stood there in UNBELIEVING and run away in tears and pain 😢😢😢
Guy: Can you offer her a man's love? Robocop: Bruh, I have mechanical parts that can vibrate at any frequency. Heck your own wife would leave you by lunchtime just cause of that.
NOTHING..I MEAN NOTHING beats the Original 1987 Robocop. A superb masterpiece of a film, with motifs, themes and a storyline that conveyed more brilliance than any of its 1980s contemporaries (including blockbuster Terminator). The subsequent Robocop films were garbage, Number 3 especially shit (a flying winged robocop.. robot ninjas WTF). The new 2014 Robocop does not even deserve the same name as the original.
HellBrYnger The scene where they show just what Murphy has become was pretty good...where they take apart his armor, his body, to show exactly what is left of him. The rest of it...yeah, complete shit.
“Don’t you remember me?” “I can feel them... but I can’t remember them” It sucks to know that even if it had been different, he still wouldn’t have remembered her
The film took a huge shit on what the first 'RoboCop' conveyed on Murphy regaining his humanity and identity. Paul Verhoeven must have been so disappointed:(
@Johnny Utah Murphy may have regained his humanity, but there is no way he could ever return to his old life. That game is over. Plus he didn't actually believe that he was just a machine. He had to say that to make OCP happy. If he didn't, they might have reprogrammed him (further erasing his personality) or worse, shut him down permanently.
wow this movie looks deep and really good, I watched the 2014 movie and it sucks big time. This scene, just wow, emotion, cruelty, his acting is awesome too! Gotta watch it.
It's amazing how much emotion and substance is in this one scene, and this is supposed to be a B-movie. So many of the elements that made these movies great/horrifying are missing in movies now and the respective remakes of these movies.
Practical effects still holding up after all these years, yet in 2019 our cgi can't even compete against it, let alone some animation based movies smfh
Knowing Murphy still had a brain a mind & concious. He probably was protecting his emotions by telling her he doesn't know or remember her. Us human's do this to not feel or remember because we don't want to go back to that emotional state because it hurts. So Murphy possibly was helping her to move on & forget about him because of how his appearance looked. Yet his feelings was still with him in his mind. Remember Robocop is still half human.
0:52 Here's to being human All the pain and suffering There's beauty in the bleeding At least you feel something I wish I knew what it was like To care enough to carry on I wish I knew what it was like To find a place where I belong, but I am machine I never sleep I keep my eyes wide open I am machine A part of me Wishes I could just feel something I am machine I never sleep Until I fix what's broken I am machine A part of me Wishes I could just feel something Here's to being human Taking it for granted The highs and lows of living To getting second chances I wish I knew what it was like To care about what's right or wrong I wish someone could help me find Find a place where I belong, but I am machine I never sleep I keep my eyes wide open I am machine A part of me Wishes I could just feel something I am machine I never sleep Until I fix what's broken I am machine A part of me Wishes I could just feel something It wasn't supposed to be this way We were meant to feel the pain I don't like what I am becoming Wish I could just feel something I am machine I never sleep I keep my eyes wide open I am machine A part of me Wishes I could just feel something I am machine I never sleep Until I fix what's broken I am machine A part of me Wishes I could just feel something.
This movie could have been great, and this scene proves it. Had they cut out all the ridiculous amount of sub-plots, that nearly all lead to nothing, and instead focused entirely on Murphy trying to re-connect with his humanity, this could have been just as good as the first.
There were actually deleted scenes that showed Murphy's more human side like one scene that had Robocop heading the cemetery during a stormy night so he can visit his own tombstone. Another had him watching a female cop taking a shower and being reminded of his wife. I feel the side plots that went nowhere would've had more meaning if they didn't cut out a lot of scenes of the movie.
I'm not really fond of the majority of Robocop 2, but this scene is probably the best part of all of the films. It makes you ask yourself, is Robocop really still Alex Murphy, or is it just a robot trying to connect itself with the human brain it inhabits? How much humanity can still exist in something after going through so many changes like this? Along with showing how Murphy's spirit is broken by OCP trying to keep him under their power, essentially forcing him to tell his wife that Murphy is dead. If Robocop 2 would've focused on this aspect, instead of the lame Nuke plot, it could've easily have been up there in quality with the original.
I agree also. He's come to terms with who he is. It's just better for him to let his wife move without him because he really can't offer her much anymore.
This scene teared me down as kid and still does. This movie to me AIN'T inferior to the second one. The whole concept of Murphy's very soul being alive, inside his Robocop body is something gut wretching. It's all cool thinking "Yeah it would be cool being a badass cyborg cop kicking assess and taking names" but AIN'T much cool when you realize you would potentially wake up into an artificial body, and not have the chance to return to a life, a life you built with love and effort. His very wife telling him "IT DOESN'T MATTER" may be far fetched because no marriage can survive without physical intercourse and passion but she was really fighting to get him back from OCP. She wasn't After money or fame. This part of the movie if you really look into it is extremely tragic. Murphy would eventually move on and find a family in his cops comrades but his soul will forever miss his wife and child.
This scene is populated by a batch of underrated actors. McCarthy, Charbonneau and Lerner are in tons of stuff and rarely get the recognition they deserve.
No, The reboot wasn't bad at all. It had it's own powerful scenes just as this did. Blood and guts don't make a movie. It's character development and being capable of relating to someone in a situation they're given.
I re watched this film again last night. There are moments of real brilliance in this script. I see what Miller was going for and at times the film nails it. The scene where Robo comforts the kid crime boss as he dies is also profoundly affecting. Even after he did such despicable things to Murphy, in his moment of death, he receives compassion. The film was a bit before its time in 1990. But it’s still wildly uneven.
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What an irony: Robocop's most humane moment lies in his denying that he is human. Brilliant acting by Weller.
Perfect.
They even treated him human. Instead of reprogramming him, they just reasoned with him to lie about his humanity. The OCP scumbag did have a point. Murphy can't go back to his old life and trying to do so will only hurt his wife and kid.
*Cough* Shitty 2014 Remake *Cough*
@@ixiahj I don't know... if I were a kid and found out my father became the ultimate cyborg badass... I'd be proud of him.
@@tokuwriter2872 The 2014 remake is a product of "They spent so much time asking themselves if they could they never bothered to ask if they should." The 2014 remake wasn't terrible, but it wasn't terribly good either. I'm just thankful it didn't set Joel Kinnaman back because he was absolutely brilliant in Altered Carbon.
"Can you give her love? A man's love?"
"rofl are you serious? I have machine precision and can oscillate my hand at variable speeds between 5000-6000 Hz. Your wife would divorce you if she met me."
That's still not exactly love.
(Li-Li Mandragon) Okay, you didn't seem to understand, that's lust, just a feeling, and feelings pass, love should be about companionship, the most intimate relationship between a man and a woman, where you complete each other, despite your flaws, mistakes, whatever, it's something people just don't seem to understand nowadays, love should be a real emotion, not just a throwaway feeling.
Guess I just ruined your joke there. But hey, I guess it's just not my type of humor.
Aqib.A.C Love without lust is just friendship.
(Mike Flangerus) Exactly, love is built off that companionship, if you don't feel truly close to the person, then you can't really be in love.
(Fetty Krill wished back once again) Yeah I know that, but like I said before, it's just not my type of humor. I mean I get that a lot of people do prefer that kind of humor, but I guess I can't push aside the deeper meanings of things as easily as others.
"They made this to honor him. You husband is dead. I don't know you." It's on the same level as: "I know now why you cry. But it is something I can never do."
T2 doesn't hold up as well as Robocop. It really suffered from having the violence toned down, which produces more sensitive moments like you quoted above. "Listen, and understand. That terminator is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead." *THAT'* is the terminator.
Brilliant comment
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Murphy’s face is literally stretched out over a Terminator-like endoskeleton skull. The only thing original about him is his brain.
@@daddy042 they did with T2 what they did with the second Dirty Harry which is water down the violence and add comic relief. T2 was better when it came out but Robocop really was superior and has better stood the test of time. Its really robocop vs Terminator, where the first fiöm wins hands down.
"I don't know you."
The way Peter Weller delivered this line is brilliant. He says it in a cold and robotic tone, but at the same time there's a slight shake to his voice as well, as if Murphy is trying hard not to cry. This is the last time he will ever see or talk to his wife, and this is the only way he can say goodbye to her.
Fuck, that's upsetting.
It hurts more when it's actually written down and explained :(
robocop 2 had its moments ...
This is more like a horror movie
I think he was acting expecting to be in a better movie that it was.
I was a kid when I first saw this movie. It kicked ass then, it kicks ass today. Truly underrated.
The way his voice breaks on the word “machine” is haunting. Such phenomenal acting.
Murphy maybe 95% cybernetic, but at the core, lies the most advanced machine ever conceived, a human brain. Even after OCP tried to make him their own robot slave, the man named Murphy lived on.
Dinoman217 nice qoute from the "robocop vs terminator deathbattle" vid.
@Prometheus soul. memory got whipped and he can feel even though hes not really supposed to.
Yup, that's the whole point.
That's so true
The human brain was never conceived...
The stark contrast between the soft "They made this, to honor him" and the steely "Your husband is dead - I don't know you". Weller's delivery was pure genius.
This is the pure definition of tough love. Alex could see the hope in his wife's eyes. But he knew that he could never have the life he once had with her. That's why he was so cold. He didn't want to give her any kind of hope of them being together. So, he didn't just rip the bandaid off, he ripped the heart right out.
Oh god...he looks waaaaay more horrifying than I remember.
The Grammar Police Yeah, that’s what I thought! It’s really graphic and I watched this as a kid and loved it 😳
He looks bluer and shinier than I remember too.
They colored him up in the 2nd. He was much more basic in the original
@@andrewkline8365 shame as that blueish tint makes him look a bit plastic
@@YoStu242 It went back to its original colour in Robocop 3.
Poor Alex, all he wanted was to reunite with his family
Roborav I was about to comment the same thing lmao
I think Robocop watches cyberporn in his spare time.
I never seen him on vacation though... 24/7 cybersex???
He should have reunited with them. It didn’t matter if he was a machine or not. She even said it didn’t matter what they did to him. If OCP didn’t tell him what to do then he should have reunited with his wife. He was still Alex Murphy
"Are you Alex Murphy?"
".... no."
*After Dick jones is dead.*
"Nice shooting son, what's your name."
"Murphy."
😄 he was just doing as he was told.
This is Robocop 2. It takes place after Dick was killed.
Someone is missing the point of this scene. OCP are trying to avoid a lawsuit by having him admit he is not Murphy. He is still Murphy but the lawyer brings up the valid point that he is no longer capable of offering human affections to his wife. He begrudgingly admits to being just a machine for the camera & then lies to his wife as a means of letting her move on with her life. It's a tragic scene that emphasises how he is truly alone.
@@drakocarrion great summary man
@Kumat Bhaskar ...what ?
I like how before Murphy was told that he was simply a machine, his voice sounded very human and organic but when he was told that he was a machine, his voice turned back into a more robotic tone. Just a little detail that really shows the audience how the human element in him gets crushed by what people tell him.
Insidious Zink machine*
his voice did change
it's also ironic that they're reprimanding him in the same way that they would reprimand a human being instead of bringing him over to his builders to get some kind of "fixing" (like how machines are supposedly treated whenever a human sees a flaw in it)
Hello RoboCop my name is Cody I love your movies it's really cool to watch on TV channel to RoboCop Alex Murphy
I noticed that too.
This scene is a perfect example of what the newer film currently lacks.
+Ivyn Taasin I haven't seen the new film, but I saw a clip "show me" and that seemed very impresive, not same but still shows the struggle of a man turned into a machine.
+Wrzeszcz100 I've seen the new one. I mean when you're watching it you can't compare it to the older film. The new one is okay. Didn't quite suck but it wasn't great either. Rather forgettable. Not a masterpiece like this one.
+Ivyn Taasin In this movie murphy is really questioning his humanity more like a machine would do, what makes it just more interessting. The reboot is basically about a guy who is still human, but got his body replaced with something else.
"This scene is a perfect example of what the newer film currently lacks"
Yes indeed. In one word: authenticity.
Here, Robocop is confused on whether if there's still any humanity left in him at all, & confused about whether he has been turned entirely into a machine. in the new one, he's unmistakably human, despite all his cybernetic parts, so much so that it's easy to forget that he's mostly machine. in this one, people see him as a robot with a human face. in the new one, a human with robotic parts.
It's obvious Murphy is lying here in order to protect his family and give them a chance to move on. In the series "Robocop: Prime Directives", his son James, now working for OCP finds out his father is Robocop and tries to destroy him with an EMP device because he didn't try to remain a part of his life. But he spared Murphy after Murphy took his helmet off and revealed himself to James. He even cried when James hugged him. He's stuck in a cyborg limbo, not alive or dead, neither truly a man or fully a machine. He believes he can't be a husband or a father in his condition, so he's trying to push them away so they can try to move on without him.
+thunderstudent I recall that scene even though that series had the spaghetti western music which i thought were out of place.
Part man, part machine, all cop.
Alex: What kind of a father would I have been for you?
James: Any kind of father would have been better than non at all
THAT part hurts. Especially when James almost flicked the switch with Robo telling him to look in his eyes before he does it. The lines themselves got to me
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@Muhammad Fatihi The way he hid himself at the end of that episode...
I offer... vibration
go. just go away.
What a great bartender!
DAMN 😂😂😂
Hmm oh ok then. He could be with me I don't see just the outside but what's in his heart and mind at least what's left of that. Well that's just awkward af. You can offer more I'm guessing. Hmm.
"I OFFER... ROBO-FINGER"
That's really the question isn't it? Did Alex Murphy in fact die, and is Robocop just a cyborg who is simply accessing Murphy's memories and assume as it's own?
+Damar158 that's why i like the tv series so much (not the 4-part thing) because they break down almost every aspect of murphy vice versa robo
search youtube, type in "Robocop The human factor" then you're left with
2 choices, either watch the fanmade one wich is the first 2 episodes of the TV series episodes (badass IMO) or the original one, "the human factor", wich takes murphy to confront his parents.
you won't be dissapointed, trust me.
i like robocop
i dont see the difference
Is there much of a difference?
I love how he changes voice when saying "I don't know you" . Such a cold treat.
Hell ya
There was a lot of pain in his voice when he said that. And his intent was not malicious. he just wanted his wife to move on.
I never understood why Murphy’s wife apparently moved back to Detroit. They didn’t provided any word that she was remarried. An outline for the film explained that RoboCop was going out of town to observe them and she did have a new husband.
Damn... them practical effects look so scary real... even better than today's cgi...
All thanks to Rob Bottin, who's unfortunately retired since 2002.
it looks plastic as F but is better than modern CGI
@@lmeza1983 It looks as realistic as it can be and of course way better than today's CGi.
At the end of the movie...
"Nice shooting son, what's your name?"
"Murphy"
Cue epic music
Casey Christopher this video is about robocop 2, at the end in this case say: we are only humans
@@mecomoeltarro6622 he says as he is taking a socket rench to his helmet hahaha
Robocop may be remembered as an awesome action film, but it is a horrific and tragic story. The poor guy literally went through hell on earth and is aware of it all, even as a machine. Lost his self, his family, and most of his humanity to a bunch of trash thugs.
But, rises up like a phoenix. Stronger than ever; his will to survive, to carry out his duty, to protect the innocent, to uphold the law.
It’s sad, but he became a symbol for hope and true utter Justice. Proving all of his creators, all his enemies, even all of his doubts wrong.
He is not just Murphy, or Robocop. He is the Future of Law Enforcement!
I bet this was hard for Peter as an actor. He's wrestling with these emotions, and really showing how much Robo is hurting, but had to be sure not to produce a single tear because Robocop can't cry
Peter just wants to get the scene done to remove the suit. Its hot
@@Shadothecat 10 hours of makeup to get there and probably 4-6 to get the hell outta there. Except he did have to put himself in a dark place to get that performance.
I remember watching this movie as a kid and feeling so sad for Murphy. Like his humanity is still there. He remembers his life and family and that's what he wants. Yet he was subjected to a fate worse than death in my opinion.
He doesn't remember his old life or his family though, all he has is a few flashbacks of them, he isn't the same person with most of his memory gone. If the armed robber didn't recognise him and tell him at the garage scene in the first film, he would never even have worked out the flashback of being shot was anything more than a dream, he would not have had the records to search of the gang and wouldn't have even found his abandoned house.
Same here man. I was 7 at the time and felt very sad for both him and his wife
One other detail that makes me sad for Robo, is that he retains Murphy’s gun twirling habit, which was originally a trick that he learned to impress his son before it eventually became a tic that stuck with him, even after he became Robocop.
@@MoskHotelhe is Murphy
Most powerful and painful scene in movie history.
The acknowledgement of one's own death.
+DwayneHicks426 You're right. People bitch about this film because Robo is less human than what he appeared at the end of the last film. But this scene shows that all the company programming reverted him back to realizing that he is still a machine. It's very sad, but Robo is still a bad-ass.
***** Can you be clearer?
***** Yeah, that's more like it. I agree. OCP is manipulative and want Murphy to remain a loyal piece of their property. The scene were Murphy meets his wife just solidifies his stranglehold within the company. Plus, he just wants his wife to move on as he knows now that he can never be the same Alex Murphy she once knew. It would have been cool if we saw another couple of conflicting emotion scenes like this, though, but I know why they did it that way.
Murphy's face looks like the man on the verge of tears. But he can't physically cry. It's unimaginable how much motional pain he is in.
He has a metal skull underneath... His eyes maybe are not truly organic. This comment probably is right.
Peter Weller played his part superbly, Robo could not have been cast better. The make up was outstanding!!!
You forget how much of a good actor he is . I mean.. the skill and portrayal in this scene is phenomenal!!!
When that guy asked him if he is Alex Murphy, he should have said "No, I'm batman."
Thanks to Dark Knight Returns that would have been true.
Hahaha you are si funny godzilla girl
Firman Darmawan Thank you.
I would have liked to see Michael Keaton play RoboCop.
Hahahaha this was awesome
How to annihilate a human being in his dignity. I have been always close to Murphy's life drama, because he hasn't got any fault for his condition, and nonetheless he has to suffer and endure all the insults made to him, aside the physical injuries, and the human disembodiment done to his soul. He is still the most human in that disarray of wretched souls he works with, exceptions made, for instance, Lewis and the cop chief.
thas so true
well said
cool now send me some money
The chief and Lewis are the omly equals to him in that company regarding humanity as you say. And I can say many people with disabilities faces similar insults that Murphy is subjected to on a daily basis so I can really empathise with him as me myself have some of them and actually have had an artificial implant in my body. (That is removed now as they found another way to treat my hydrocephalus.)
part 2
In the novelization, they actually further explored Murphy's psychology. This scene happens much later in the book, but after being told by the lawyers to stay away from her, RoboCop drives to a junkyard to ponder what he has become...
"He closed his eyes and daydreamed, seeing himself frozen solid by rust. He envisioned the mighty magnets lifting his long out-modeled, creaky, corroded body toward the conveyor belt. The conveyor accepting the offering without question. The whining, flailing machine nourished itself on Robo's body, tearing it to pieces with rotating, razor-sharp teeth."
Fortunately, Lewis arrives to snap RoboCop out of his suicidal thoughts and remind him of who he is. Also, the Marvel comic adaptation added another scene where Murphy visits his own grave and stares at his tombstone.
That's fucked up he dehumanized robocop destroyed his soul with simple words
Robo without his helmet scared the shit outta me as a kid! My father and my uncle show me this scene always on purpuse.
That's the funny thing; I never been scared of the Terminator endoskeleton. I always like it!
Really? Check out the thumbnail of this video, his manequin-like face it's still scary!
"purpose"
This scene still breaks my heart. This film and the first Robocop are absolute masterpieces.
I really hate what OCP represents in these movies. The idea that money comes before everything else, no matter what. That everything can be justified so long as you can make a profit out of it.
"Is Robocop man or machine?
Who cares? A man thinks and feels. A man has rights and that complicates things. A machine has no rights. It's a thing that can be owned and commanded. Much simpler and much more profitable.
What if it turns out that Robocop is not just a machine? That he is in fact still a man?
Hide it. Do everything you can to make it seem like he is just a machine. Protect the investment at any cost.
But what about Murphy?
Again, who cares? We want money."
It's greed in it's purest form and it's sickening to watch.
Sounds like you're describing any modern corporation...
Well you get the drama there.
I'm sorry but Apple comes to mind 🤔. This is easily one of my favourite films. It gives you an example of how scary and violent the world can be on the street and how within a corporation the violence greed and unscrupulous nature of people can also be displayed in the most disturbing manner
"He signed the release forms when he joined the force. He's legally dead. We can do what we want." - Johnson, Robocop 1
@@bobpage6597 very good I'd definitely buy that for a dollar
Watching this movie as an adoult is kinda hard, when I can understand him. Brings a tear to the eye, when you can feal him.
The feals
Yaeh, its soo hard to wacth
I've adored these films since I was 4 years old and I'm proud to say they still are my favourites. There's just so much to them I just wish they made alot more of them.
The most heartbreaking thing, is not only she lost her husband, but OCP made a bizarre being, with his corpse. On the other hand, Murphy is still there.
Holy F 😳
These movies were more than science fiction.
MrRolyat98 Nah man, this is TRUE science fiction - exploring themes and philosophy with the backdrop of technological advancement
Corporatism. Police privatisation. Commercialism.
The sad part is this isn't Robocop speaking, it's Alex, but he realizes that it wouldn't work, so he fakes being Robocop to spare his wife from the pain. OCP probably lied to her saying he'd still be the same person and said that their lives would return as normal after he comes back. The movie also states Robocop is loved by the city's kids, so his son probably thinks he's cool and maybe has toys of him, imagine how painful it is for her, seeing their son idolizing his father her husband's corpse.
you almost never see this caliber of character or acting in today's action movies. Its soooo good.
Amazing how even in a cheesy 90’s film about a Robocop, this scene was written in it. Probably the best scene in my opinion, that and the end when he fights the other robot. Very sad and heartbreaking, because you know he is still very much in tone with his humanity.
This scene is heart-breaking.
:'( I feel for Murphy. Being dehumanized.
Scorpion: "Your wife and son..."
Robocop: "They are lost to me now"
Scorpion: "The same pain shears both our hearts"
I love the character development in this scene. He was very much alone in his struggle to restore his humanity.
He might think he's alone, but the movie goes out of its way to show that his friends and coworkers respect him as a man.
It's heartbreaking to see Murphy silently agree with the asshole. Also, that guy in the back is the Lawyer who insulted Arnie and got a pen in the back.
thatonedrewguy don’t forget to send me a copy
The way he quietly says no is really heart breaking.
Good for him, that shows he’s a truly good man that’s willing to do what was necessary to give his wife a chance to live and be loved when he knew he couldn’t give those things to her as much as she deserved.
The practical effects still blows my mind and it still blows most modern day cgi out of the water. Look at this 3:14, tell me that doesn't look like flesh stretched out. Freaking scary actually, how real that looks.
This movie is waaay ahead of its time. The sequels were enjoyable but I think that part 1 ended perfectly when old man asked "Nice shooting son. What's your name?" He turns with a smile and says "Murphy" and the epic music drops. Perfect f*cking ending!
That is terrifying
They made this to honor him, your husband is dead
Robocop is actually self aware and is being like this to be indignant.
I take it you were not alive around these movies. Watch Robocop 3 and you will be fully aware that THIS is really Alex Murphy.
I don't think that word means what you think it means....
They did a lot to mess his mind up in RoboCop 3... probably added som programming to subdue the human part of him as much as possible.
@@mikaelwojciechowski7281 He said this to protect her as well,she could die searching for him in a time of chaos.
this is one of my favorite movie of all time.
Heartbreaking scene.
Robocop was more human that the attorney.
If you watch the movie, you'll realize very soon how much of a complete d*ck that attorney is.
He knew her. But he wanted to protect her and his son, so he said that Alex Murphy doesn't exist anymore. He wanted to give them a chance to get over his death. And he did it because he still loves them, even as a cyborg.
How did he know her? All he has is flashbacks, he doesn't remember her properly, he said so near the end of the first movie.
This is one of the few scenes in the latter films that managed to perfectly capture the tragedy of Alex Murphy's existence as Robocop. Definitely one of my favorite scenes of the series.
Robocop isn't just a great action movie but it is also a brilliant piece of cinema in general.
I love Robocop 2. This scene was very sad, this movie definitely showed robocops more "emotional" side. Loved it as a kid, still love it now.
Peter Weller played the hell outta Robocop. I think he should have won an Oscar or some kind of award for his portrayal of Robocop.
"It doesnt matter what they done to you"
Damn...
I love this movie
I don't think there can ever be a better movie than Robocop and Total Recall.
This is such a great sequel.
It's very HEARTBREAKING when Alex musst say to he's wife I DONT KNOW YOU because he knew what awaits for him when he don't obey to order but most PAINFUL was to watch he's wife seeing her hearing what Alex tells her and then turn back and went from her and she stood there in UNBELIEVING and run away in tears and pain 😢😢😢
I wish there was more of this in Robocop 2, such a missed opportunity
This movie is better than the new one
This seems very interesting, I wish this plot point actually went somewhere
It's one of my favorite movies. When I was kid, I watched it so many times
fucking flawless acting by peter Weller.
probably one of the best scenes in any robocop film/show
I think he just got shinier.
Guy: Can you offer her a man's love?
Robocop: Bruh, I have mechanical parts that can vibrate at any frequency. Heck your own wife would leave you by lunchtime just cause of that.
RoboCock.
Coming in a theater near you.
Robocop is my all time favourite film. This scene is so perfect I kind of wish it was in the original.
Same!!!! Would have only elevated a perfect film to a whole other level!!
NOTHING..I MEAN NOTHING beats the Original 1987 Robocop. A superb masterpiece of a film, with motifs, themes and a storyline that conveyed more brilliance than any of its 1980s contemporaries (including blockbuster Terminator). The subsequent Robocop films were garbage, Number 3 especially shit (a flying winged robocop.. robot ninjas WTF). The new 2014 Robocop does not even deserve the same name as the original.
***** i'd rather watch robocop 3 than the 2014 version, that one is just pure blasphemy
HellBrYnger The scene where they show just what Murphy has become was pretty good...where they take apart his armor, his body, to show exactly what is left of him.
The rest of it...yeah, complete shit.
Robocop 2 was great as Robocop 1
Terminator is better.
Robocop 2 is a decent sequel. 3 is shit.
“Don’t you remember me?”
“I can feel them... but I can’t remember them”
It sucks to know that even if it had been different, he still wouldn’t have remembered her
The film took a huge shit on what the first 'RoboCop' conveyed on Murphy regaining his humanity and identity.
Paul Verhoeven must have been so disappointed:(
bill bixby The director is beside the matter, the issue was the story and you're not doing any justice comparing this to the third film, seriously.
No way. Unless you'd like to explain robot drug addiction, then be my guest.
@Johnny Utah
Murphy may have regained his humanity, but there is no way he could ever return to his old life. That game is over.
Plus he didn't actually believe that he was just a machine. He had to say that to make OCP happy. If he didn't, they might have reprogrammed him (further erasing his personality) or worse, shut him down permanently.
Felamine To quote Paul Verhoeven; "It was never about regaining his old life, but regaining his humanity".
Johnny Utah You and me both, brah. Finally someone other than me to react to this.
Great Work! Such emotional scenes are rarely seen in sci-fi films, and well-written screenplays make up a movie rather than CGI, stuffed with effects
You can see this is probably the most difficult decision Murphy's had to do. Break her heart so she can move on with her life.
this looks better than the new movie.
This is way better than the new movie. And the original, from 1987, is frickin' awesome ;)
wow this movie looks deep and really good, I watched the 2014 movie and it sucks big time. This scene, just wow, emotion, cruelty, his acting is awesome too! Gotta watch it.
***** Yeah the first one was much better or at least what I remember of it.
***** It's a scene from RoboCop 2 which isn't really a very good movie overall. Watch the first movie instead.
Jam Iey Yeah I wanna watch it and then this one, havent had the time, when I can, I will watch it.
+KS89_E
this movie is very good not as good as Robocop 1987 but still very good in my opinion
+KS89_E
You should take a look at Frank's Miller Robocop. That is his vision of Robocop 2. The Movie is no-where close to his original script.
It's amazing how much emotion and substance is in this one scene, and this is supposed to be a B-movie. So many of the elements that made these movies great/horrifying are missing in movies now and the respective remakes of these movies.
Practical effects still holding up after all these years, yet in 2019 our cgi can't even compete against it, let alone some animation based movies smfh
Knowing Murphy still had a brain a mind & concious. He probably was protecting his emotions by telling her he doesn't know or remember her. Us human's do this to not feel or remember because we don't want to go back to that emotional state because it hurts. So Murphy possibly was helping her to move on & forget about him because of how his appearance looked. Yet his feelings was still with him in his mind. Remember Robocop is still half human.
0:52
Here's to being human
All the pain and suffering
There's beauty in the bleeding
At least you feel something
I wish I knew what it was like
To care enough to carry on
I wish I knew what it was like
To find a place where I belong, but
I am machine
I never sleep
I keep my eyes wide open
I am machine
A part of me
Wishes I could just feel something
I am machine
I never sleep
Until I fix what's broken
I am machine
A part of me
Wishes I could just feel something
Here's to being human
Taking it for granted
The highs and lows of living
To getting second chances
I wish I knew what it was like
To care about what's right or wrong
I wish someone could help me find
Find a place where I belong, but
I am machine
I never sleep
I keep my eyes wide open
I am machine
A part of me
Wishes I could just feel something
I am machine
I never sleep
Until I fix what's broken
I am machine
A part of me
Wishes I could just feel something
It wasn't supposed to be this way
We were meant to feel the pain
I don't like what I am becoming
Wish I could just feel something
I am machine
I never sleep
I keep my eyes wide open
I am machine
A part of me
Wishes I could just feel something
I am machine
I never sleep
Until I fix what's broken
I am machine
A part of me
Wishes I could just feel something.
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Peter Weller is an unbelievable actor
This movie could have been great, and this scene proves it. Had they cut out all the ridiculous amount of sub-plots, that nearly all lead to nothing, and instead focused entirely on Murphy trying to re-connect with his humanity, this could have been just as good as the first.
Robocop 2 is a great classic. An underrated and " viciously hated for not damn good reason at all" movie.
There were actually deleted scenes that showed Murphy's more human side like one scene that had Robocop heading the cemetery during a stormy night so he can visit his own tombstone. Another had him watching a female cop taking a shower and being reminded of his wife. I feel the side plots that went nowhere would've had more meaning if they didn't cut out a lot of scenes of the movie.
I'm not really fond of the majority of Robocop 2, but this scene is probably the best part of all of the films. It makes you ask yourself, is Robocop really still Alex Murphy, or is it just a robot trying to connect itself with the human brain it inhabits? How much humanity can still exist in something after going through so many changes like this? Along with showing how Murphy's spirit is broken by OCP trying to keep him under their power, essentially forcing him to tell his wife that Murphy is dead. If Robocop 2 would've focused on this aspect, instead of the lame Nuke plot, it could've easily have been up there in quality with the original.
Random Person
I agree.
+Random Person I improve
I agree also. He's come to terms with who he is. It's just better for him to let his wife move without him because he really can't offer her much anymore.
so true
The Social Gamer I agree as well
I remember watching this as a kid and just thinking, "wow, look at that awesome robot kick ass." No I'm a grown man and... Robocop is making me cry??
Best Robocop!
Robocop said he ain't the baby daddy lol
I will remember forever going to the movies to see Robocop 2 the day it came out!!
This scene teared me down as kid and still does. This movie to me AIN'T inferior to the second one. The whole concept of Murphy's very soul being alive, inside his Robocop body is something gut wretching. It's all cool thinking "Yeah it would be cool being a badass cyborg cop kicking assess and taking names" but AIN'T much cool when you realize you would potentially wake up into an artificial body, and not have the chance to return to a life, a life you built with love and effort. His very wife telling him "IT DOESN'T MATTER" may be far fetched because no marriage can survive without physical intercourse and passion but she was really fighting to get him back from OCP. She wasn't After money or fame. This part of the movie if you really look into it is extremely tragic. Murphy would eventually move on and find a family in his cops comrades but his soul will forever miss his wife and child.
Amazing costume and make up for that time! And lets not forget the acting!
OCP has the technology to totally replace a human body with a machine, still uses VHS tape.
This scene is populated by a batch of underrated actors. McCarthy, Charbonneau and Lerner are in tons of stuff and rarely get the recognition they deserve.
"are you Alex Murphy?"
At which he should have answered, "I used to be and he is still in here". ^^
Great movie, legendary! Beautiful blue eyes.
0:08 those words are very powerful to say to a man ... What can you offer her companion ship ,love ...ect....most saddest thing ive ever heard ....
Really wish the movie had more of this in the film. Stuff like this is the heart of the film.
man robocop tell that woman the truth you are Alex Murphy!
amazing script and acting crew
“Touch me” (pneumatic wrench noises). 😱
Robocop had it all, gore, violence, emotion, satire....
kinda makes you realise just how piss poor the robocop reboot was.
it was aful!
sorry awful!
No, The reboot wasn't bad at all. It had it's own powerful scenes just as this did. Blood and guts don't make a movie. It's character development and being capable of relating to someone in a situation they're given.
MassPwnage Games you must be 14 yrs old
David Thomas who me?
I re watched this film again last night. There are moments of real brilliance in this script. I see what Miller was going for and at times the film nails it. The scene where Robo comforts the kid crime boss as he dies is also profoundly affecting. Even after he did such despicable things to Murphy, in his moment of death, he receives compassion. The film was a bit before its time in 1990. But it’s still wildly uneven.
3:00 great way to escape to pay child support bruh
This is true movie making. I agree with you. It looks so legit!!!