@@ThanatoselNyx I mean if this game was balanced I don't think it would be nearly as fun, and that's not a bad thing. You don't need the alien powers to be balanced in this game to have fun, and that's the goal of it. It's not like MtG or something with a competitive scene. Having aliens with differing power levels makes the game varied and replayable, it adds unpredictability and can make for some incredible gaming moments. It's a decision, not laziness.
@@ThanatoselNyx they didn't say balance is for wimps, they said "fair isn't fun". I agree. A balanced game would be boring, the winner would be determined at the beginning and itd just be going through the motions until they win. And as someone else said, the game self-balances because a good power gets bullied into submission.
Ngl, it was a little like "Oh come on! That's basic subtraction it's not that hard!" for me, but stress can make the simplest of things a lot more difficult. That was a beautiful end :dd
The power move of Simone at 13:50 to accept Clayton's ship so that Pat is pressured into negotiating over attacking is left underappreciated, because it was unsuccessful, but the pure genius behind it was so great.
8:01 and the following moments sound exactly like the dialogue that preceded all the times I picked up weird bugs to impress girls on the playground as a kid
When you put it like that, it makes me realize that all 1,000,000 people without fail watching a group play boardgames and explain new rules at the time proves card animes realistic
Hey Polygon! I just want you all to know I hope you’re all doing well! You bring all of us so much joy especially in these times. Thank you for the laughs and comfort! I think I can speak for everyone when I say we are very grateful for all of you!!! Best wishes!
I've never played this game in my life, but something about the negotiating and bluffing, weird powers and maths made me feel like this was something familiar, like a game I've played. Then it hit me: Munchkin! The game and the way you played it reminded me of Munchkin, which I believe would be a fun game for Overboard, because it can both be short, leading to multiple rounds, and because it can lead to high drama.
When someone said that it wouldn't be out of place if there was a card where you have to say you're sorry, my mind also went to Munchkin for some reason.
Steve Jackson, Munchkin designer, was a big Cosmic Encounter fan before he designed Munchkin. Steve even wrangled a few Cosmic Aliens into the Space Gamer Magazine.
i love the fact that this game is designed in a way where you can pick an objectively over-powered species with the sole counter-measure being “if you pick one of the OP ones, then everyone will bully you, so picking a weaker species might be better for the long game”. for a game like this it honestly feels like a great way to make players start making risk-reward choices right out of the gate
So excited to see people playing Cosmic Encounter! One of my favorite games! A note, just in case this is relevant; there should only be 10 flares total in the deck; some people's hands looked really flare heavy
Not to mention that these guys missed a line in the rules which really helps to streamline the game: "a player may use no more than one flare per encounter."
My first new Overboard Episode! I only recently discovered Polygon and this is the first Overboard Episode I have seen come out (although I watched literally all the other episodes as well)
Anyone remember when Griffin and Justin did an overview of tabletop simulator? It makes you wonder...would this game be better if the board was actually Steve Buscemi's face?
I'd like to see more of this game, seems like there's a lot of possibilities with it. I also wouldn't mind seeing 'Overboard Replays' where you revisit some of the previous games you've only played once
46:04 Now, if I'm not wrong, since Brian's card says "before any other effects are applied", it would only divide Clayton's *10* by three, then it would have 23 subtracted from it, and then his human card would turn it back into a 42, so he would have actually won against Brian 56 to 31. And even if the subtraction happened after the 42, it would still be 33 to 31. Regardless, I thoroughly enjoyed the video as always. Please never stop making Overboard.
actually my theory is that simone serves the literary purpose of the everyman, like watson in sherlock holmes or nick carraway in the great gatsby. she is the vessel by which the viewer relates to and understands the world, ie the events of each episode of overboard. that's why she's the only one who catches on to being gaslighted by brian in werewolf (though she is quickly convinced afterwards) and she begins to graffiti the stars in cosmic encounter when the viewer too is confused by the events that occur.
Cosmic encounter is one of my favourite board games of all time! It is so nuanced, and there is a moment halfway through your first or second game where it clicks and you realise how fantastically socially strategic it is
I play this game a lot with my coworkers, except we always try to win solo for as long as we can be arsed to. Makes a game last hours, but the feeling of a solo victory in a game with a bunch of opponents is delicious!
I actually quite like the whole Polygon crew. I know so many people like to say that BDG is the only reason to watch Polygon, but all of them are very clearly passionate about games and are committed to putting out the best content possible, regardless of if people watch it. They're like a big, nerdy, dysfunctional family.
A lot of rules were forgotten or misinterpreted (getting new cards on second encounter, status of other ship on the colonies and etc.) but hey, they had a lot of fun and it was certainly entertaining!
@@andrewstockdale6084 yes. even if it weren't for the multiple flares. there was some misunderstanding of how the last encounter totals were calculated. cosmic is almost never not complicated. And thats why I love it!
That was an incredible, devious, and confusing ending. I love that. I love how overboard is adapting to quaratine times and very much enjoying these videos
I feel like pacifist could be really really good in the right hands. Let me see if I can describe this You are pacifist and you trigger your ability. You win/tie with an N card Your opponent wants to minimize their losses, aiming for a tie and playing an N You can use this as a mind game and play an attack card, but if they predict it and play an attack you can still win the classic way. In short, it makes the 4 possible outcomes of the battle into 2 wins a tie and a tossup, much better than normal.
Yup! There are a lot of powers like that. The best powers are the ones that are really good but don't seem very powerful. A blatantly powerful power gets ganged up on, but a power like the philanthropist who can give bad cards to other players will never be targeted.
Among the 180 plus cards including all the expansions and taking into account that the deck distribution means you're more likely to have negotiates, an auto-win card like Pacifist is decidedly one of the strongest in the game.
Yeah, it's one of the strongest aliens in the game (with the caveat that of course there are no absolutes in Cosmic :P). Really they all had some strong boys, aside from poor old Masochist.
Pacifist seems like a character that would do much better by collecting negotiation cards and not attack cards, but well, there isn't really a good way to refresh cards while keeping some specific cards you get?
You guys are amazing, thank you for continuing to put out Overboard during the pandemic! My mental health has taken a hit lately, but watching y'all really makes me happy. Y'all have great personalities!! I look forward to seeing more Overboard in the future!!
Overboard gives me the happy feeling and there's something so intrinsically goofy about tts: It's always fun to watch people play games with their friends.
I think this is my favorite Overboard. I've watched it maybe five times at this point. Something about playing a game that's essentially Calvinball masquerading as a carefully structured, rules-based experience is perfect for the chaotic Polygon crew.
@@lunarheavens2819 Hey, I recently got a shiny hoppip I can trade ya for your dex if you want it, I don't really collect anything so it's gonna be deleted once I restart the game
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"pat gill is a traitor" is literally written is the stars, so it must be true.
Wait where
@@facepalmindustries2132 39:00
Which is really funny Bc I always think that he is in every single hidden role game
@@skawesomeone I can't tell if you just got woooshed or not
@@Void-cn6rn nah, a question was asked and answered. That's not a whooshable offense
The designer of this game once said in an interview that "balance is for wimps" and I think about that a lot.
Not balancing a game is just laziness. They can try justify it or attack those who call them on it, but it is just lazy.
@@ThanatoselNyx As said in the video, the downside of having an overpowered species is bullying, which makes it fair again
@@ThanatoselNyx I mean if this game was balanced I don't think it would be nearly as fun, and that's not a bad thing. You don't need the alien powers to be balanced in this game to have fun, and that's the goal of it. It's not like MtG or something with a competitive scene. Having aliens with differing power levels makes the game varied and replayable, it adds unpredictability and can make for some incredible gaming moments. It's a decision, not laziness.
@@ThanatoselNyx they didn't say balance is for wimps, they said "fair isn't fun". I agree. A balanced game would be boring, the winner would be determined at the beginning and itd just be going through the motions until they win. And as someone else said, the game self-balances because a good power gets bullied into submission.
Actually it was foe weenies.
so sad to see the polygon friends trapped in these tiny boxes, wishing them well
They have to get through the episodes of Overboard fast or else they'll run out of air in such tiny boxes.
DID YOU SAY THEY'RE IN BOXES? 100 NMT FOR ALL OF THEM
@@maetheunicorn81 NO I'M BETTING *200* NMT!
@@meking1808 IM BETTING 20 DOLLARS
Everyone other than Simone playing 4d chess hurts my brain
The part when Brian's like "I don't have a plan" and Simone's instantly "IM IN!" is the most relatable moment of the vid ;;
Simone is dumbledor
@@finnkatz simone= gryffindor; brian= hufflepuff; Jenna= slytherin; Pat = Ravenclaw (??); and clayton = death eaters.
Shout-out to Clayton for getting all this footage from a 3D virtual environment and the great editing afterwards
no kidding, that must have been a pain to edit together
@@screaminggecko7660 funny considering he's the masochist
"you're my work wife" and all our collective hearts melted
timestamp??
15:13
That they did.
_BITCH_
wait are pat and Simone actually together tho? or are they just friends? either way you're right it was adorable
"Hello I'm the loser" is my new greeting for every occasion
It already is for me
I've never said that, but it seems to be what people hear anyway.
bonus points if you carry the card with you everywhere and pull it out when you say that
how weird is that greeting compared to “hey”?
Brian narrating instead of Clayton immediately says that this is gonna get real insane real quick.
That ended like every episode of Yugioh made me think card games are supposed to.
Legit was trying to explain this game to my boyfriend and told him that it plays out like a typical episode of Yugioh
jenna’s “simone, no… crunch some numbers, baby” at 25:17 makes my heart soar for reasons i cannot explain
I'm so sorry Jenna, but there is tremendous memetic potential in "Hello, I'm the loser."
Memetic is the perfect adjective
Student: Are we ever going to use this in real life.
Math teacher: You will if you ever play cosmic encounters.
Finally a valid motivation to learn math
Or DnD
Ngl, it was a little like "Oh come on! That's basic subtraction it's not that hard!" for me, but stress can make the simplest of things a lot more difficult.
That was a beautiful end :dd
@@crazydragy4233 And hey, not relevant in this case but there _is_ multiplication/division in the game too
Wait really? Where? @@metallsnubben
"When you say my last name it hurts extra bad :/"
Every kid when their mum calls them by their full name
This is true for me just because my last name always gets butchered.
i thought the Pat v Simone encounter was a lot, and then the Clayton v Jenna encounter immediately destroyed my brain i need a nap
And then Brian v Clayton happened.
@@BirdThatEatsPrometheussLiver and become the best resolve to end the game
The final round was even more math-y
@@BirdThatEatsPrometheussLiver So much competing math...
The power move of Simone at 13:50 to accept Clayton's ship so that Pat is pressured into negotiating over attacking is left underappreciated, because it was unsuccessful, but the pure genius behind it was so great.
"i love to die!!!" - tiny clayton
8:01 and the following moments sound exactly like the dialogue that preceded all the times I picked up weird bugs to impress girls on the playground as a kid
Simone claims Pat is her Work Wife when we know damn well she stabbed him in the back in COUP, featuring the dashing Brennan Lee Mulligan
love your use of dashing, and no one deserves it more than brennan
All is fair in love and coup?
21:06 Pat failing to stack chips for a solid minute is such a mood
Sophia Walsh Long oh my god i thought it was brian because the colors were confusing me but it being pat makes it infinitely better
It was giving me so much anxiety 😂
this is really just uno reverse card: the game
Kind of. It is perfect. If you want uno reverse card, the game, try Exploding kittens. There are 'nope' cards, and you can 'nope' a 'nope'.
@@glowerworm you nope so many nopes. It is insane
wouldnt that game just,..be uno?
@@PschocatIII but uno reverse cards don't work like uno reverse cards in uno
I want them to do like connect4 but still explain in detail the rules and stuff
And pat still doesn't listen to the rules
When you put it like that, it makes me realize that all 1,000,000 people without fail watching a group play boardgames and explain new rules at the time proves card animes realistic
@@emmae2520 amazing
@@emmae2520 *brain blown*
@@emmae2520 bruh
simone: im not gonna touch this with a ten foot pole
pat: i- i'm gonna touch it🙂
"I have so many more ships than anybody else, which makes me feel like I should get in on this." - Me, as I consider taking up fanfic writing.
Simone to Pat:
"You're my work wife!"
God, i love these doofuses :)
13:39 "any opportunity to die is good for me" yes relateable thank you Clayton
I need to know where Clayton got that cool flannel he's wearing, for Assembling Lesbian Outfits Reasons
ALOR
Tbh, same
The ALOR Allure
Also the Bear association wants a couple of these, but with cut off sleeves.
“The end result is a stupidly chaotic game”
Yup sounds like polygon
"...Okay, sure, Pat. I guess. Why not, feel free." 40:18
Brian accepting help in this game is the best
Jenna's complete acceptance and enthusiasm for chaos is absolutely wonderful
20:39 "did I accidentally - I have Done The Wrong Thing" relatable content
Hey Polygon! I just want you all to know I hope you’re all doing well! You bring all of us so much joy especially in these times. Thank you for the laughs and comfort! I think I can speak for everyone when I say we are very grateful for all of you!!! Best wishes!
I have to take a break from this video to watch something simpler, like a lecture on quantum mechanics
Followed by figuering out the meaning of life as god intended, the figuering out if he was real
There should be a part 2 of the cyberpunk red campaign
bring back Vang0 Bang0
they’re trying to make it work!! source: brian on the itsbremily twitch channel
oh shit yes
YES PLEASE. Legitimately one of the best things on the channel, tbh
BRING BACK VANG0 BANG0!
I've never played this game in my life, but something about the negotiating and bluffing, weird powers and maths made me feel like this was something familiar, like a game I've played.
Then it hit me: Munchkin! The game and the way you played it reminded me of Munchkin, which I believe would be a fun game for Overboard, because it can both be short, leading to multiple rounds, and because it can lead to high drama.
When someone said that it wouldn't be out of place if there was a card where you have to say you're sorry, my mind also went to Munchkin for some reason.
Steve Jackson, Munchkin designer, was a big Cosmic Encounter fan before he designed Munchkin. Steve even wrangled a few Cosmic Aliens into the Space Gamer Magazine.
It gets compared to Munchkin a lot. But I think it's much better! You should consider giving it a try.
Munchkin is a game where the designers said "what if everyone got to be a wildcard" and I love it
yes! I've wanted this for a while now! :)
i love that simone, jenna, and pat have good photos of themselves as their pictures, while brian is a worm and clayton is an alien
I'm a simple man. I see a new Overboard episode and I become overjoyed to the point of shedding some tears
this was so confusing in the best way, i love how wild that last round was
please never stop this series, it's pure serotonin.
Me, after finishing the video: what a fun video!
Also me: immediately watches it again in hopes I will understand what happened this time
I'm usually pretty good at understanding these rules, but I'm 3 minutes in and I know nothing. It's gonna be a good one!
I never understand any of the rules to any of the games.
they also broke a few rules, so that didn't help (you can only play one flare per turn!)
@@MysticKenji2 Also Jenna can't play a negotiate card after using upset, because it says both have to play attack cards.
I think she can if she has no attack cards?
Still seems incredibly busted, but that is this game I guess
@@jordanfry5138 she can if she has no attack cards. I think she didn't have any.
i love the fact that this game is designed in a way where you can pick an objectively over-powered species with the sole counter-measure being “if you pick one of the OP ones, then everyone will bully you, so picking a weaker species might be better for the long game”. for a game like this it honestly feels like a great way to make players start making risk-reward choices right out of the gate
So excited to see people playing Cosmic Encounter! One of my favorite games! A note, just in case this is relevant; there should only be 10 flares total in the deck; some people's hands looked really flare heavy
Not to mention that these guys missed a line in the rules which really helps to streamline the game: "a player may use no more than one flare per encounter."
Was looking for this comment, the game is not supposed to be quite so chaotic lmao
My first new Overboard Episode! I only recently discovered Polygon and this is the first Overboard Episode I have seen come out (although I watched literally all the other episodes as well)
Welcome to the weird and wacky world of Polygon.
@@jacobcain9008 oh thank you
knowing that mobius tubes will return all ships from the wrap makes seeing clayton have it the height of comedy
I love Clayton’s energy in this
Anyone remember when Griffin and Justin did an overview of tabletop simulator? It makes you wonder...would this game be better if the board was actually Steve Buscemi's face?
Every game would be better that way
I'd like to see more of this game, seems like there's a lot of possibilities with it. I also wouldn't mind seeing 'Overboard Replays' where you revisit some of the previous games you've only played once
Patrick "Inevitable betrayal" Gill
I'm commenting to feed the algorithm, because I love y'all.
"maybe I'll still die" perfect mood
23:16 "She out here watching while the company taking cards."
THAT *clap* FUCKING *clap* MOOD
YUS!!
Need more of that in my life.
oh my god, Jenna is so adorably mischievous i just cant
please play more tabletop simulator stuff!!! it’s so fun and had me laughing and interested the entire time
9:59 Perfect anime villain laugh
No one talking about “you really got boned by destiny there, Brian”
Brian's hair is still awesome even in lockdown
i would even say especially in lockdown
19:35 Clayton's devious "from anyone???" had me rolling
Jenna emitting the ultimate power of the Loser is absurdly inspiring
I really appreciate the Calvin Ball reference in the beginning
I had to pause my rewatch of your cyberpunk overboard to watch this
Neil Kalef wait i did the exact same thing omg
46:04 Now, if I'm not wrong, since Brian's card says "before any other effects are applied", it would only divide Clayton's *10* by three, then it would have 23 subtracted from it, and then his human card would turn it back into a 42, so he would have actually won against Brian 56 to 31. And even if the subtraction happened after the 42, it would still be 33 to 31. Regardless, I thoroughly enjoyed the video as always. Please never stop making Overboard.
Baku Technically, it shouldn’t do anything, since the card only applies to numbers over 15.
I'm pretty sure that changing the card to a 42 causes the -23 to no longer apply at all, since 42 is not an odd number
Clayton LeVerrier it takes the total of both attack cards so its still odd with the 42 and the 23
Thank you! This was also bugging me.
You can't play more than one flare each turn, so it's all a wash anyways.
i KNEW that simone would complete the „i'm blue“ line because idk we're the same person, i guess
I knew it would be someone and I was relieved when it was her
we are all. simone
actually my theory is that simone serves the literary purpose of the everyman, like watson in sherlock holmes or nick carraway in the great gatsby. she is the vessel by which the viewer relates to and understands the world, ie the events of each episode of overboard. that's why she's the only one who catches on to being gaslighted by brian in werewolf (though she is quickly convinced afterwards) and she begins to graffiti the stars in cosmic encounter when the viewer too is confused by the events that occur.
I now have a deeper appreciation for this channel when they made calvin and hobbes reference.
[gets instant serotonin boost]
Cosmic encounter is one of my favourite board games of all time! It is so nuanced, and there is a moment halfway through your first or second game where it clicks and you realise how fantastically socially strategic it is
I play this game a lot with my coworkers, except we always try to win solo for as long as we can be arsed to. Makes a game last hours, but the feeling of a solo victory in a game with a bunch of opponents is delicious!
This is the best game in existence.
Thank you for showing me the light.
The one true sport of Calvinball finally getting its just recognition (even if only in reference). Thanks BDG!
I actually quite like the whole Polygon crew. I know so many people like to say that BDG is the only reason to watch Polygon, but all of them are very clearly passionate about games and are committed to putting out the best content possible, regardless of if people watch it. They're like a big, nerdy, dysfunctional family.
AAAGH i love this ! thank you for continuing this series during quarantine
Seeing Simone's room made me think she would love Melbourne, Australia, but she lives in New York, which is what Melbourne wishes it was
@Lawful_ Depends on which Americans are filling you up, doesn't it?
no treat for pat :(
GIVE PAT A TREAT GIVE PAT A TREAT
This is basically "math: the gambling game"
I'm a lesbian but if Brian came to me and said "It's time to get cosmic, baby" I'd marry him right away
i second that
I third that
I fourth that
He's dating Karen
I'm a straight male but if Brian came to me and said "It's time to get cosmic, baby" I'd marry him right away
I love how the end made Brian and Clay Mathochists
i screamed when i saw this
thank you so much for keeping the series going digitally
ya keepin me sane polygon, ya keepin me sane.
Overboard, space, and being early to a video, several of my favorite things combined into one video!
A lot of rules were forgotten or misinterpreted (getting new cards on second encounter, status of other ship on the colonies and etc.) but hey, they had a lot of fun and it was certainly entertaining!
Totally agree, playing multiple flare cards per turn kinda screwed with the last encounter but Cosmic is messy and it created drama
@@andrewstockdale6084 yes. even if it weren't for the multiple flares. there was some misunderstanding of how the last encounter totals were calculated. cosmic is almost never not complicated. And thats why I love it!
I love Union Aunt Jenna's vibes in this. So supportive yet so cunning
it's not the sort of game they typically play but i do kind of want to see how much soul-crushing betrayal simone can endure in a game of armello
That was an incredible, devious, and confusing ending. I love that. I love how overboard is adapting to quaratine times and very much enjoying these videos
I feel like pacifist could be really really good in the right hands. Let me see if I can describe this
You are pacifist and you trigger your ability.
You win/tie with an N card
Your opponent wants to minimize their losses, aiming for a tie and playing an N
You can use this as a mind game and play an attack card, but if they predict it and play an attack you can still win the classic way.
In short, it makes the 4 possible outcomes of the battle into 2 wins a tie and a tossup, much better than normal.
Yup! There are a lot of powers like that. The best powers are the ones that are really good but don't seem very powerful. A blatantly powerful power gets ganged up on, but a power like the philanthropist who can give bad cards to other players will never be targeted.
Among the 180 plus cards including all the expansions and taking into account that the deck distribution means you're more likely to have negotiates, an auto-win card like Pacifist is decidedly one of the strongest in the game.
Yeah, it's one of the strongest aliens in the game (with the caveat that of course there are no absolutes in Cosmic :P). Really they all had some strong boys, aside from poor old Masochist.
Pacifist seems like a character that would do much better by collecting negotiation cards and not attack cards, but well, there isn't really a good way to refresh cards while keeping some specific cards you get?
You guys are amazing, thank you for continuing to put out Overboard during the pandemic! My mental health has taken a hit lately, but watching y'all really makes me happy. Y'all have great personalities!! I look forward to seeing more Overboard in the future!!
That ending is the perfect insane cap to this adventure.
Overboard gives me the happy feeling and there's something so intrinsically goofy about tts: It's always fun to watch people play games with their friends.
"Crunch some numbers, baby!"
I think this is my favorite Overboard. I've watched it maybe five times at this point. Something about playing a game that's essentially Calvinball masquerading as a carefully structured, rules-based experience is perfect for the chaotic Polygon crew.
Glad ya’ll are alright
And of course, laughing.
In lockdown, I’ve just started trying to make a National Living Pokédex.
Like to wish me luck!
Good fuckin' luck my man!
dont give anything to kevin punt
marblewater I definitely won’t
@@lunarheavens2819 Hey, I recently got a shiny hoppip I can trade ya for your dex if you want it, I don't really collect anything so it's gonna be deleted once I restart the game
Candyishere I can’t trade my den, but I can trade something else, I’ve got a few spare of each of the Alola, Kanto and Galar starters
I am so glad that the Polygon team is still playing Overboard! It makes me unreasonably happy during all this :D
Never been this early! One of my favorite series on youtube ever. Thanks to everyone involved
Please consider playing more of this! I love this game and there isn't enough content on RUclips to watch that is related to it.
watching brian trying to stack his ships is
Y'all make my heart happy. I have not even seen mention of this game for probably 12 years. This is stupid and I love it.
I’ve only been watching these since isolation, i’m sooooo happy to see a new video!
I love Clayton's energy in this!
why are you all so talented, i can sit here and just watch you all play a video game and be THIS entertained, wtf
That last battle was insane literally everyone throwing cards out and hoping for the best.
I just got into overboard the day "push the button" was uploaded. I've been waiting for another fo so long
This is one of my favourite board games and am super happy to watch Polygon play it.
When this is all over, you should do an Overboard After Hours, where you drink and play some hilarious party games
Pretty sure that was just the jackbox videos
1:46 Kudos for that Calvinball reference