Sublime! The Composer, both Architect and Mason, designer and builder. The performer re-erects the edifice for us to behold. No human activity, (that is governed by time), compares with a musical performance by a consummate artiste, that too on the King of Instruments. Bravo, Sir.
Cultural projects like this are what the internet has been promising us for decades. I am utterly astonished that an undertaking of this sheer magnitude is being gifted to the world free of charge, and I thank every single person involved in bringing it to fruition. What a blessing!
Me sumo gustosamente al comentario. Hago votos, además, para que se incrementen las frecuencias (cósmicas) que permitan el despertar de una parte significativa de los ciudadanos. Un "desideratum" que madame Realidad se encargará de abortar. P.D.: malos tiempos para la lírica.
Your blessings are what fully justify projects like this. Not everything can be expressed in dollars. Sometimes, simple words like "thank you" are like golden cheques. Wikipedia and RUclips are what the Internet stands for. We should all fight to keep this alive as long as possible. Thank you @kacey and may the Force be with you always.
Organists are like acrobats. Four keyboards plus another for their feet. It’s so moving to watch them in action. And they are so lucky that such sublime music is there for them.
Personally I love the harpsichord. I can't understand how the piano overshadowed the harpsichord. Harpsichords are magnificent. Crystal clear sound. Beautiful music written for it are what dreams are made of.
Leo Van Doeselaar is quickly becoming my favorite (living) organist! Bach himself will always be my first, even though I've never heard him play. Maybe some day.
Bach made organ arrangements of three concertos by Vivaldi. His cousin Johann Gottfried Walther was also a master arranger and transcribed another Vivaldi concerto for organ along with several concertos by other composers including Telemann and Albinoni. To confuse things further Walther was the teacher of a young aristocrat, Prince Johann Ernst of Saxe-Weimar, who was a capable composer and Bach made organ arrangements of one of his concertos and a fragment of another.
It’s always lovely to listen both to the original concerto and this interpretation of the transcription. Bach made good choices for what to copy down, and as they say, Vivaldi taught him to “think musically”. I wish they had met.
This magnificent work represents a tribute by Bach to Vivaldi. I am thrilled to hear this Bach transcription for organ of the Vivaldi Concerto Grosso for two violins and cello (L'estro Armonico number 11), because it is my favorite baroque concerto. It is clear that Bach (the unquestioned master of baroque music) greatly admired the Vivaldi concertos whose printed versions he was privileged to have access to, as evidenced by the fact that he studied them carefully and transcribed several of them for other instruments and instrumental ensembles, including this one.
This is one evidence I use when I say that Vivaldi, despise being or not one of my favourite composers, was a great one. If Sebastian Bach, who is considered by the musicologists the greatest composers of them all liked Vivaldi, which musicologist could disagree?
Beautiful performance of this perfectly arranged masterpiece in a lively tempo with transparent sound of the well-restored organ and with carefully controlled dynamics. Truly awesome organist!
Sir: I do not give praise so easily. Still, your virtuosity is for the ages. It transcends time. You understand every aspect of the music to which you give new life. My heart thanks you. Only JS Bach himself could have more beautifully performed.
Such an absolutely brilliant piece, on such an absolutely magnificent instrument, so very masterly played. This piece was one of my father's favorites. It would fill our home... This performance is so beautiful. Thank you, Mr. van Doeselaar, and the Netherlands Bach Society.
And there's a reason for that :). Go listen to the interview with Leo where he explains that this is one of the only pieces where Bach specifically prescribed registration. ruclips.net/video/yDckcUITj3w/видео.html
Merhaba. Thanks to the precious Netherlands Bach Society for this amazing piano recital. How lucky, I am listening to this recital in my house in Izmir. Despite all the hardship and lack of opportunities in my life, I feel refreshed when I see some high-class content. Thanks and thanks again.
Wonderful! Mr. Van Dosselaar's playing has a rhythmic integrity and punch which are rare among organists to-day. Also, despite his marvelous technique, he doesn't play everything ABSOLUTELYFASTERTHANFAST as so many of his colleagues do.
Yes. These kind of stops are mainly from Renaissance era. - the "Vogelgeschrei" is also called "Rossignol" (nightingale) in french. It is generally constructed with 3 pipes partially dropped in a water tank. It produces a hissing sound that may resemble a bird song. You may hear it here: ruclips.net/video/mkNaY5fQqro/видео.html - the "Zimbelstern" is a small crown of bells. A rotating weight strikes them each in turn. - the "Storm" is an accessory imitating the thunder, by simultaneously making several low notes of the pedal speak. They have become very rare nowadays, I mean there are no more of these kind of stops in modern organs.
@@generalackbar245 funnily, there is an organ with a Zimbelstern in Christuskirche, Karlsruhe,Germany . Its a Klais organ from 1966, the pipes were kept, but most of the other parts were built new some years ago....
Bravo Maestro Organista...La Digitación Magnífica... gracias por todo su trabajo...y su video... Se oyen las entradas muy claras... Así se toca un Órgano...
There is no historical indication that Bach and Vivaldi ever met. However, it is no secret that Bach adored Vivaldi's music and took it so seriously that Bach HAD to reconstitute it by making various arrangements of Vivaldi's works. Some musicologists assert that Bach actually LEARNED from Vivaldi's music and tried to make (his own music) more dramatic as a result of Vivaldi's ideas. What I am curious to know is HOW Bach was able to obtain the scores to so many of Vivaldi's works? I assume Bach had "musical connections" in various countries, and likely that included Italy. But publishing and dissemination of mail and music must have been MUCH more difficult than it is now...and not to mention expensive. But none of this stopped Bach from getting as much of Vivaldi's music as he could get. I assume Bach performed them too, but I don't know if there is any written record of these performances. I'm sure I'm not the only one interested in this issue. We know Bach adored Buxtehude's organ music. It's a pity that Buxtehude is not performed more. Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
A very interesting subject indeed. A lot of music from Italian composers (including Vivaldi) was published in Amsterdam. Via Prince Johann Ernst some of this music was brought to Weimar, where Bach transcribed it. Organist Reitze Smits explains this more in detail here: allofbach.com/en/bwv/bwv-593/#organist-reitze-smits
@@bach Thank you so much for this very interesting URL that helps EXPLAIN Bach's ability to obtain Vivaldi's music. Like any extremely accomplished musician of ANY time, Bach certainly would be expected to have a vast interest in what other composers were doing. Obviously the score was the only way to transmit this...or to actually GO to where it was being played. We can make a reasonable assumption that Bach looked as these scores as a Christmas gift and we can only imagine Bach's joy at opening up the scores and playing them in his mind...first and then on the organ and harpsichord. Yet, according to the discussion above, Bach tried to remain true to the scores. In THAT, we can see Bach's love of Vivaldi showing through. Bach could not "play" any recordings of those scores. His only way to share his love of Vivaldi was on the organ and making transcriptions, which he himself could play. One has a fantasy of what they would have said to each other had they actually met. I think that Bach would have loved to hear Vivaldi play the concertos himself on the violin. Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
I do believe Bach met Buxtehude in that famous anecdote of him walking many miles north to meet the great Master. Don’t forget also that Bach’s cousin, Johann Gottfried Walther, was a very able-minded encyclopedist and not only wrote a history of organists and their music, but he also had a very large sheet music collection. Bach very likely might have gotten Vivaldi’s music from Walther. Bach also liked not just the Italian school of music but also the French, having copied Nicolas de Grigny’s “Livre d’orgue” (published in 1699,, but Bach got to it when it was republished in approx 1711) and this he also got from his cousin, Walther. I also agree that Buxtehude’s music should be performed by the Netherlands Bach Society, if for nothing else but for historical interest as Bach was very much taken in with Buxtehude’s “art”.
Have you tried contacting the American Musicological Society? www.amsmusicology.org/ ? They are a professional organization for music historians in the US. They might be able to find someone who can answer your questions or tell you where to look for an answer . I apologize for my link I don't know how to create one in this forum . If you cut and paste the text into a browser it should work .
Wow! What remains to say? Thank you for this performance, Sir. It is so beautiful it brings the tears, you know? Bringing Joy and Consolation to me tube...
Great sound recording. This organ has a beautiful harmony of sound, brought to bear here on the perfect registration. Ably articulated rendition, at the tempo sweet spot. Very satisfying
Wat een prachtig stuk. Mooie registraties, fijn en gevoelvol gespeeld. Het stuk leeft. Complimenten! Daarnaast ook leuk om het Flentrop pronkstuk te beluisteren. Een fraai stukje vakmanschap!
Indeed, llisten to those lovely light ornaments in the minutes after 5:36, so nicely done!! He even the ornaments with his head at 5:55! Brilliant organ player
Leo, wat speel je dit mooi! Prachtig om te zien dat je de ornamenten zelfs met je hoofd meespeelt op 5:56! Vanaf 5:32 is het één grot genot om je lichte spel met ornamenten te horen
He must have learned a lot from Vivaldi by transcribing so many of his pieces.
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The transcriptions were commissioned works. If there was anything to learn, he could have simply studied the string scores. At the time Bach made these transcriptions, he was employed (1707-1717) by the two coreigning dukes of Weimar as their court organist, concertmaster and composer. At that time, Italian string concertos were very popular in Germany. Keyboard transcriptions of Italian string concertos were also popular. Bach also transcribed to keyboard some string concertos in the Italian style by a young student* of his. Surely, you're not suggesting that Bach learned from his student by transcribing his string concertos. The student was Prince Johann Ernst of Saxe-Weimar, the younger half brother of the younger of the coreigning dukes.
Are you talking about Bach? Heck no, if anything they all learned from him, the best! Only reason Bach would transcribe these concertos to the Organ is for the purpose of enjoyment/entertainment & leisure for it to achieve a more different taste instead of a boring concerto. Bach did this for fun, he knew the music is not at his level of intelligence but just for the sake of being interestingly different, he made an adventure out of some special Vivaldi selections chosen by Bach himself to become as an experience for a different taste of beauty served on the organ, since he was such a big fan of the church instrument.
@@ProdigyImprovisation I beg to disagree. Bach learned a lot from his predecessors, and from his contemporaries. His music was so interesting in part because he integrated many elements from various schools. On the other hand I'm not sure Vivaldi learned a lot from Bach...
Alain Bruguieres I’m not sure of that either, but I’d rather prefer they probably did if they knew who he was? Because Bach wasn’t as famous in his days as others like Handel & many others who worked on royalty’s behalf. Bach was more focused on old fashioned type of music even of his time his music wasn’t as popular & considered old fashioned as other composers who were more contemporary then him. I heard Bach studied & learned more the works of the past, hence he is the master of contrapuntal music. Most famous Composers of Bach’s time had enough of contrapuntal music & just wanted more simplicity for enjoyment of the ear rather then focusing on fugues, subjects, etc. Eventually in his later years, Bach became known as the man who can manipulate music in any way contrapuntally & the master of old fashioned music. He learned & influenced more the music before his time not the music of his contemporaries. That’s why I say if anything they all learned from him because he comes from the original source & doesn’t play silly games. He would have admired composers of his time, but mostly Vivaldi in my opinion not for the purpose of being old fashioned but Vivaldi for being one of the more emotional expressive contemporary composer of his time. I believe this is the reason why Bach would’ve admired his music, but not admired it in his own level of being strict for contrapuntal music. I’d say out of the contemporaries he probably would’ve admired Vivaldi the most. But definitely didn’t learn a lot from him, instead would’ve simply integrated many contemporary elements & ideas from him in order to have more colors of emotions available to him by being open minded about his contemporaries at the same time but other then that, he would’ve learned nothing else because contemporary music is so much more simple then contrapuntal music.
@@ProdigyImprovisation The concept of Bach as a greatest composer is a product of 19th and early 20th century German mysicology, which generally tended to show "superiority" of German music over Italian and French art. Don' forget, that the roots of baroque music are in Italy, Germany was provincial region In comparison to the Italy.
Sir, I thank You ! Dank je ! During this pandemic situation this music makes me happy. Best wishes from your neighbour in Hamburg/Germany. May God bless You !
Such a beautiful performance, thanks for NBC thanks for Maestro Van Doeselaar. I love this piece, and maybe never heard a great interpretation like that
¿Has escuchado a otras interpretaciónes? Yo soy organista también y yo escucho a diferentes interpretaciónes y pongo las mejorías de todas en mi interpretación. En otro lado, la Sociedad de Holland de Música de Bach hace un regalo al mundo y tienen las personas quienes saben que hacen.
It's actually Vivaldi's concerto for two violins RV 565. Bach wrote an arrangement for his patron, the count of Saxe-Wimar, who brought sheet music during his one year trip from where it was published in Amsterdam. Bach however did a superb transposition by splitting the reply of the stretto on Cello and bass continuo on a second manual. He also exceptionally registered all the organ stop combinations which he usually left lose in his own music.
Allegro - Grave - Fuga 0:07
Largo e spiccato 5:03
Allegro 7:54
Thanks!
Sublime! The Composer, both Architect and Mason, designer and builder. The performer re-erects the edifice for us to behold. No human activity, (that is governed by time), compares with a musical performance by a consummate artiste, that too on the King of Instruments. Bravo, Sir.
Thanks for the times😃
Geweldig zoals deze man kan spelen. SUBLIEM.
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Cultural projects like this are what the internet has been promising us for decades. I am utterly astonished that an undertaking of this sheer magnitude is being gifted to the world free of charge, and I thank every single person involved in bringing it to fruition. What a blessing!
+100
Me sumo gustosamente al comentario. Hago votos, además, para que se incrementen las frecuencias (cósmicas) que permitan el despertar de una parte significativa de los ciudadanos. Un "desideratum" que madame Realidad se encargará de abortar.
P.D.: malos tiempos para la lírica.
Definitely Yes.
Your blessings are what fully justify projects like this. Not everything can be expressed in dollars. Sometimes, simple words like "thank you" are like golden cheques.
Wikipedia and RUclips are what the Internet stands for. We should all fight to keep this alive as long as possible.
Thank you @kacey and may the Force be with you always.
Hear, hear
Organists are like acrobats. Four keyboards plus another for their feet. It’s so moving to watch them in action. And they are so lucky that such sublime music is there for them.
AND he’s singing along with it as well…bravo!
The organ truly is the most beautiful instrument of all time
I agree.
Personally I love the harpsichord. I can't understand how the piano overshadowed the harpsichord. Harpsichords are magnificent. Crystal clear sound. Beautiful music written for it are what dreams are made of.
And Bach is the genius of this music
😊😊😊
😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
Leo Van Doeselaar is quickly becoming my favorite (living) organist!
Bach himself will always be my first, even though I've never heard him play. Maybe some day.
Now that’s a beautiful thought...
What a motivation for virtue :D
My dream is watching and listening to Bach, Handel, Mozart, Franck, Saint-Saens and Karl Richter playing several organs together...
and fun to watch!
That's the craziest thing about Bach's music. This was "pop" music, written as musicians should be able to play... and it's insanely complex!
Head banging, shredding, pedalling...this guy is a rock star 🤘🏾
The singing voice of that Principal at 05:29 is unreal... transports the listener through time.
Bach und Vivaldi, die perfekte Kombination im wunderbaren musikalischen Universum. Vielen Dank.
It's beautiful. The organist is a great performer.
The more Bach I hear the more I fall inlove.
Love is a many splendid thing.
Ja!!!
@quality test yes it is not Bach, it is a version of Vivaldis concerto that was arranged by Bach
You may know this, but just to make sure, I feel like I should say this is a transcription of one of Vivaldi’s concerti.
In case you would like to hear what the original sounded like, try ruclips.net/video/WKDzek3VOvY/видео.html
Leo van Doeselaar wird Eins mit der Orgel und der Bach-Musik. Selten so gesehen und gehört. Bravo!
I don't know how many times I've listened, but I'm hooked on Van Doeslaar. Thank you, sir!
I am absolutely ecstatic to find that Bach made an arrangement for my favorite Vivaldi concerto!
Bach made organ arrangements of three concertos by Vivaldi. His cousin Johann Gottfried Walther was also a master arranger and transcribed another Vivaldi concerto for organ along with several concertos by other composers including Telemann and Albinoni. To confuse things further Walther was the teacher of a young aristocrat, Prince Johann Ernst of Saxe-Weimar, who was a capable composer and Bach made organ arrangements of one of his concertos and a fragment of another.
Bach admired Vivaldi as a fellow professional; the transcriptions are an elegant tribute.
It’s always lovely to listen both to the original concerto and this interpretation of the transcription. Bach made good choices for what to copy down, and as they say, Vivaldi taught him to “think musically”. I wish they had met.
I listened to both, and still like Bach's arrangement more than the original. Everything Bach touches, turns to gold.
man, just came home from work, had a tea with rum and a proper spliff and this was somehow in my recommended list... Very impressive
This magnificent work represents a tribute by Bach to Vivaldi. I am thrilled to hear this Bach transcription for organ of the Vivaldi Concerto Grosso for two violins and cello (L'estro Armonico number 11), because it is my favorite baroque concerto. It is clear that Bach (the unquestioned master of baroque music) greatly admired the Vivaldi concertos whose printed versions he was privileged to have access to, as evidenced by the fact that he studied them carefully and transcribed several of them for other instruments and instrumental ensembles, including this one.
Young Bach in Weimar. Vivaldi was so popular, kind of a rockstar of his time. Maybe this was a way to attract attention on his masterful organ playing
The best performance of this, anywhere! registration, articulation, tempo, everything perfect. Sheer joy!
great ; Eternal Classics Brothers
@Eric Hiret great ; Eternal Classics Brothers
This is one evidence I use when I say that Vivaldi, despise being or not one of my favourite composers, was a great one. If Sebastian Bach, who is considered by the musicologists the greatest composers of them all liked Vivaldi, which musicologist could disagree?
I love this man's body language, he totally nails this piece!
I think its too much and unnecessary.
Yes. He puts all of himself into it.
Spectacular performance. The Largo in particular is out of this world... This is what being a musician is all about. He is inside the music.
every visitor and listener of bach who knows his pieces are among the enlightened you are not among the sheep. Take pride in that.
What a joy! What a privilege to see this thousands of miles away from where this was saved for posterity and music lovers everywhere.
The music and its performance is a treasure.
Beautiful performance of this perfectly arranged masterpiece in a lively tempo with transparent sound of the well-restored organ and with carefully controlled dynamics. Truly awesome organist!
Van Doeselaar's interpretation of this concerto is masterful. Absolutely flawless and with amazing energy. Thank you!
Glorious rendition off this Vivaldi's invention with Bach's trillion pauses
Sir: I do not give praise so easily. Still, your virtuosity is for the ages. It transcends time. You understand every aspect of the music to which you give new life. My heart thanks you. Only JS Bach himself could have more beautifully performed.
Such an absolutely brilliant piece, on such an absolutely magnificent instrument, so very masterly played. This piece was one of my father's favorites. It would fill our home... This performance is so beautiful. Thank you, Mr. van Doeselaar, and the Netherlands Bach Society.
Zo enorm trots om Nederlander te zijn
In vele vele opzichten
Dank diepe buiging
Dieses Orgelstück ist wirklich außerordentlich! Toll Organisten, ein Genie. Wunderbar.
Netherlands Bach Society and youtube,God bless you for the project,a wonderful gift to anybody.Bach forever!From Milano,Italy
Indrukwekkend! Het is weinigen gegeven om Bach zo helder te vertolken. Hij doet recht aan Bach en het instrument.
Even as an arrangement, this is pure genius; Leo your organ work and stops are exceptional!
Better than original in my opinion, Bach improves everything he touches.
the organ and the performer-just perfect!
Perfettamente centrato lo spirito del Concerto Grosso, articolazione impeccabile, ottima scelta dei registri, magnifico organo. Complimenti, bravissimo!
Bach‘s music is probably the closest we will ever get to divine perfection. Also, I love this channel.
@@gianlucabersanetti6454 Vivaldi is great too
This piece is actually a Vivaldi piece (RV 565) Bach transcribed for the organ
I just keep coming back to this, one of the all time best performances on youtube imo
masterful playing! These are the best registrations I have ever heard for this concerto. Leo's touch is soooooo light!
I agree. There is something very very special about the registrations he's chosen
I didn't know the organ could be so expressive on a melodic level. It positively breathes.
And there's a reason for that :). Go listen to the interview with Leo where he explains that this is one of the only pieces where Bach specifically prescribed registration. ruclips.net/video/yDckcUITj3w/видео.html
Yes it is
That movement at 8:48! So precise!
And his hands flying between the two keyboards (whilst playing the pedals at the same time) - so skilled!
Merhaba. Thanks to the precious Netherlands Bach Society for this amazing piano recital. How lucky, I am listening to this recital in my house in Izmir. Despite all the hardship and lack of opportunities in my life, I feel refreshed when I see some high-class content. Thanks and thanks again.
Piano?
The man's so talented at playing the organ that he has grown a third hand to pull the stops
Nuevamente, felicitaciones al maestro Van Doeselaar ; interpretación melodiosa y técnicamente irreprochable.
The more I listen to Vivaldi, the more I fall in love with it!
An oustanding performance, thanks to Maestro Leo van Doeselaar.
How could that get even better? Bach and Vivaldi! Bravo maestro! Loved your execution.
This Largo is evidence for Vivaldi's greatness!! Well played!
N.B.S. is the best ! I have loved J.S.B. since I was a child. Greetings from the U.S.A.
An elegant and rich performance with such immaculate registration.
Doeselaar is rocking out! I love that kind of passion for the organ.
What a magnificently played piece. Only in a big church can you find an organ with such acoustics. 😀🙏🏻
Yes. The entire building is the instrument.
To be honest, Mr. Van Doeselaar isn't my favourite organist, but he played this Concerto perfectly.🤩
Fantastic playing. So rhythmic and energetic.
Bach, Mozart absolutely necessary to winter in Nova Scotia.Thank you for this beautiful soul, mind and hands.
Спасибо гениальному Баху ! Вечная музыка , вечная память великому композитору!
Great composition! Great performance. Beautiful organ. I want more!
The last movement sounds like something Bach would have improvised . LOVE THIS PIECE.
Wonderful! Mr. Van Dosselaar's playing has a rhythmic integrity and punch which are rare among organists to-day. Also, despite his marvelous technique, he doesn't play everything ABSOLUTELYFASTERTHANFAST as so many of his colleagues do.
De versieringen in het langzame deel zijn prachtig!
0:47 Haha, this register's name written on the right is called 'Vogelgeschrei' which translated to English means 'bird screams'.
Yes. These kind of stops are mainly from Renaissance era.
- the "Vogelgeschrei" is also called "Rossignol" (nightingale) in french. It is generally constructed with 3 pipes partially dropped in a water tank. It produces a hissing sound that may resemble a bird song. You may hear it here: ruclips.net/video/mkNaY5fQqro/видео.html
- the "Zimbelstern" is a small crown of bells. A rotating weight strikes them each in turn.
- the "Storm" is an accessory imitating the thunder, by simultaneously making several low notes of the pedal speak.
They have become very rare nowadays, I mean there are no more of these kind of stops in modern organs.
@@generalackbar245 funnily, there is an organ with a Zimbelstern in Christuskirche, Karlsruhe,Germany .
Its a Klais organ from 1966, the pipes were kept, but most of the other parts were built new some years ago....
Bravo Maestro Organista...La Digitación Magnífica... gracias por todo su trabajo...y su video...
Se oyen las entradas muy claras...
Así se toca un Órgano...
0:47 The stop 'Vogelgeschrei' made me smile. In English this literally means: the noise of birds.
An English cognate would be "fowlshriek"
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Perfection. Such beautiful competent inspired playing, with every note perfectly articulated and the stunning sound of a glorious instrument.
Japanese
BWV 596の演奏風景を観るのは初めてです。
とても難しいですね。
ありがとうございます。
深く感謝いたします。
ありがとうございます♪
An out-of-body experience. Some other dimension. AWESOME❤
This is my favorite Bach organ fugue. Most excellent production.
The wonderful music. Excellent project.
Elegant and expressive performance, and that organ fits perfectly with the german repertoire.
Simply amazing, it takes my breath away!
There is no historical indication that Bach and Vivaldi ever met. However, it is no secret that Bach adored Vivaldi's music and took it so seriously that Bach HAD to reconstitute it by making various arrangements of Vivaldi's works.
Some musicologists assert that Bach actually LEARNED from Vivaldi's music and tried to make (his own music) more dramatic as a result of Vivaldi's ideas. What I am curious to know is HOW Bach was able to obtain the scores to so many of Vivaldi's works? I assume Bach had "musical connections" in various countries, and likely that included Italy. But publishing and dissemination of mail and music must have been MUCH more difficult than it is now...and not to mention expensive.
But none of this stopped Bach from getting as much of Vivaldi's music as he could get. I assume Bach performed them too, but I don't know if there is any written record of these performances.
I'm sure I'm not the only one interested in this issue. We know Bach adored Buxtehude's organ music. It's a pity that Buxtehude is not performed more.
Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
A very interesting subject indeed. A lot of music from Italian composers (including Vivaldi) was published in Amsterdam. Via Prince Johann Ernst some of this music was brought to Weimar, where Bach transcribed it. Organist Reitze Smits explains this more in detail here: allofbach.com/en/bwv/bwv-593/#organist-reitze-smits
@@bach Thank you so much for this very interesting URL that helps EXPLAIN Bach's ability to obtain Vivaldi's music. Like any extremely accomplished musician of ANY time, Bach certainly would be expected to have a vast interest in what other composers were doing.
Obviously the score was the only way to transmit this...or to actually GO to where it was being played. We can make a reasonable assumption that Bach looked as these scores as a Christmas gift and we can only imagine Bach's joy at opening up the scores and playing them in his mind...first and then on the organ and harpsichord. Yet, according to the discussion above, Bach tried to remain true to the scores. In THAT, we can see Bach's love of Vivaldi showing through.
Bach could not "play" any recordings of those scores. His only way to share his love of Vivaldi was on the organ and making transcriptions, which he himself could play. One has a fantasy of what they would have said to each other had they actually met. I think that Bach would have loved to hear Vivaldi play the concertos himself on the violin.
Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
I do believe Bach met Buxtehude in that famous anecdote of him walking many miles north to meet the great Master. Don’t forget also that Bach’s cousin, Johann Gottfried Walther, was a very able-minded encyclopedist and not only wrote a history of organists and their music, but he also had a very large sheet music collection. Bach very likely might have gotten Vivaldi’s music from Walther. Bach also liked not just the Italian school of music but also the French, having copied Nicolas de Grigny’s “Livre d’orgue” (published in 1699,, but Bach got to it when it was republished in approx 1711) and this he also got from his cousin, Walther. I also agree that Buxtehude’s music should be performed by the Netherlands Bach Society, if for nothing else but for historical interest as Bach was very much taken in with Buxtehude’s “art”.
Have you tried contacting the American Musicological Society? www.amsmusicology.org/ ? They are a professional organization for music historians in the US. They might be able to find someone who can answer your questions or tell you where to look for an answer . I apologize for my link I don't know how to create one in this forum . If you cut and paste the text into a browser it should work .
Now I see . It creates it when the post posts! Sneaky!
Thank you for posting another great classical work. An oasis in the midst of chaos.
Wow! What remains to say? Thank you for this performance, Sir. It is so beautiful it brings the tears, you know? Bringing Joy and Consolation to me tube...
Listening to the music of JS Bach, on authentic musical instruments by true masters, bring me to tears!
To be precise, it's not Bach, but Vivaldi.
@@KamilGefert lol! a cover!
Leo plays just great! He is my favorit organist
Bach, un encanto escuchar tan bella música, un saludo de MZA.Argentina.
Very nice !!! Sehr schöne, grossartige interpretation von Leo Van Doeselaar's !! Vielen Dank !!
Più ascolto Vivaldi e più me ne innamoro!
Great sound recording. This organ has a beautiful harmony of sound, brought to bear here on the perfect registration. Ably articulated rendition, at the tempo sweet spot. Very satisfying
His passion is going through the roof.
It's a privilege to hear that and to have survived this chaotic 2020.
Das tolle Projekt über Bach auf RUclips ist da, und es zeigt, was wahrer Barock bedeutet. Glückwunsch!
I love This organ and the Performance!!!!!
Wat een prachtig stuk. Mooie registraties, fijn en gevoelvol gespeeld. Het stuk leeft. Complimenten!
Daarnaast ook leuk om het Flentrop pronkstuk te beluisteren. Een fraai stukje
vakmanschap!
Bach plus Vivaldi: what the best? GREAT!!
It was an impressive performance. The video is also great. Thanks for the good play.
Thank you, that was so good! I love the lightness of his touch!
Agreed , also i love your alucard profile pic & i beleive that castlevania symphony of the night is the best Video game OST ever composed
Yes, that Largo can get a little tedious. I liked the pace, and the little decorative swirls he added.
“dark metamorphosis!”
Indeed, llisten to those lovely light ornaments in the minutes after 5:36, so nicely done!! He even the ornaments with his head at 5:55! Brilliant organ player
Bach masterpieces by masterful artists. So grateful. Would have loved to have had access to this throughout my long life. Thankyou!
NBS you are fabulous playing Bach. Thank you!!
Leo, wat speel je dit mooi! Prachtig om te zien dat je de ornamenten zelfs met je hoofd meespeelt op 5:56! Vanaf 5:32 is het één grot genot om je lichte spel met ornamenten te horen
Thank you for this wonderful video ! The performance and the sound quality are both amazing ! I instantly subscribed.
He must have learned a lot from Vivaldi by transcribing so many of his pieces.
The transcriptions were commissioned works. If there was anything to learn, he could have simply studied the string scores.
At the time Bach made these transcriptions, he was employed (1707-1717) by the two coreigning dukes of Weimar as their court organist, concertmaster and composer. At that time, Italian string concertos were very popular in Germany. Keyboard transcriptions of Italian string concertos were also popular.
Bach also transcribed to keyboard some string concertos in the Italian style by a young student* of his. Surely, you're not suggesting that Bach learned from his student by transcribing his string concertos. The student was Prince Johann Ernst of Saxe-Weimar, the younger half brother of the younger of the coreigning dukes.
Are you talking about Bach? Heck no, if anything they all learned from him, the best! Only reason Bach would transcribe these concertos to the Organ is for the purpose of enjoyment/entertainment & leisure for it to achieve a more different taste instead of a boring concerto. Bach did this for fun, he knew the music is not at his level of intelligence but just for the sake of being interestingly different, he made an adventure out of some special Vivaldi selections chosen by Bach himself to become as an experience for a different taste of beauty served on the organ, since he was such a big fan of the church instrument.
@@ProdigyImprovisation I beg to disagree. Bach learned a lot from his predecessors, and from his contemporaries. His music was so interesting in part because he integrated many elements from various schools. On the other hand I'm not sure Vivaldi learned a lot from Bach...
Alain Bruguieres I’m not sure of that either, but I’d rather prefer they probably did if they knew who he was? Because Bach wasn’t as famous in his days as others like Handel & many others who worked on royalty’s behalf. Bach was more focused on old fashioned type of music even of his time his music wasn’t as popular & considered old fashioned as other composers who were more contemporary then him. I heard Bach studied & learned more the works of the past, hence he is the master of contrapuntal music. Most famous Composers of Bach’s time had enough of contrapuntal music & just wanted more simplicity for enjoyment of the ear rather then focusing on fugues, subjects, etc. Eventually in his later years, Bach became known as the man who can manipulate music in any way contrapuntally & the master of old fashioned music. He learned & influenced more the music before his time not the music of his contemporaries. That’s why I say if anything they all learned from him because he comes from the original source & doesn’t play silly games. He would have admired composers of his time, but mostly Vivaldi in my opinion not for the purpose of being old fashioned but Vivaldi for being one of the more emotional expressive contemporary composer of his time. I believe this is the reason why Bach would’ve admired his music, but not admired it in his own level of being strict for contrapuntal music. I’d say out of the contemporaries he probably would’ve admired Vivaldi the most. But definitely didn’t learn a lot from him, instead would’ve simply integrated many contemporary elements & ideas from him in order to have more colors of emotions available to him by being open minded about his contemporaries at the same time but other then that, he would’ve learned nothing else because contemporary music is so much more simple then contrapuntal music.
@@ProdigyImprovisation The concept of Bach as a greatest composer is a product of 19th and early 20th century German mysicology, which generally tended to show "superiority" of German music over Italian and French art. Don' forget, that the roots of baroque music are in Italy, Germany was provincial region In comparison to the Italy.
Probabilmente tra le più alte espressioni artistiche dell'uomo. Il frutto di due fuoriclasse.
Gran i hermós!!! El Geni molt ben interpretat!
Sir, I thank You ! Dank je ! During this pandemic situation this music makes me happy. Best wishes from your neighbour in Hamburg/Germany. May God bless You !
Such a beautiful performance, thanks for NBC thanks for Maestro Van Doeselaar.
I love this piece, and maybe never heard a great interpretation like that
Que maravilla. Yo creo que esta será mi interpretación de “referencia” de este concierto en particular.
¿Has escuchado a otras interpretaciónes? Yo soy organista también y yo escucho a diferentes interpretaciónes y pongo las mejorías de todas en mi interpretación.
En otro lado, la Sociedad de Holland de Música de Bach hace un regalo al mundo y tienen las personas quienes saben que hacen.
Lovely animated performance, and very interesting to read the comments as to who was influenced by who.
Bach gave GOD all the Glory for his compositions and that is where the true influence comes from.
Thank you for sharing, this is majestic.
This is Bach at its best and played superbly!
It's actually Vivaldi's concerto for two violins RV 565. Bach wrote an arrangement for his patron, the count of Saxe-Wimar, who brought sheet music during his one year trip from where it was published in Amsterdam. Bach however did a superb transposition by splitting the reply of the stretto on Cello and bass continuo on a second manual. He also exceptionally registered all the organ stop combinations which he usually left lose in his own music.
Bach es el padre de la música, sus obras sublimes llegan al alma, saludos desde Chile🎼🎶
Beautifully voiced pipe work