Bach - Sonata no. 3 in D minor BWV 527 - Havinga | Netherlands Bach Society

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  • Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
  • The opening of this sonata in D minor, performed by Matthias Havinga for All of Bach, has an uncertain and emphatically andante sound. To the ears of seventeenth and eighteenth-century musicologists the key of D minor represented melancholy, devotion, solemnity and seriousness. Following this tentative start, Bach launches into experimentation, by juggling motifs almost wildly and searching for new keys.
    Recorded for the project All of Bach on September 21st 2016 at the Sint-Bavokerk, Haarlem. If you want to help us complete All of Bach, please subscribe to our channel bit.ly/2vhCeFB and consider donating bit.ly/2uZuMj5.
    For the interview with organist Matthias Havinga on Sonata no. 3 in D minor go to • Havinga on Bach Sonata...
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    Matthias Havinga, organist
    Organ: Christian Müller, 1738

Комментарии • 269

  • @bach
    @bach  5 лет назад +181

    0:07 Andante
    6:31 Adagio e dolce
    12:51 Vivace

  • @OldPannonian
    @OldPannonian 10 месяцев назад +10

    The Dutch and their organs deserve superlative descriptions. The organs and the performers are literally made for each other. Also, I admire their beutiful churches. Deep, lasting Culture everywhere. 🧡

  • @heschernp
    @heschernp 4 года назад +42

    The Bach trio sonatas may be the most wonderful pieces of music ever written. They are pieces that only the great master, JS Bach could have written! Beautiful playing on this wonderful instrument. Pieces that could only been inspired by almighty God -- to whom Bach was so devoted!

    • @bergspot
      @bergspot 4 года назад +7

      I agree totally. A Master piece.

  • @MichaelCWBell
    @MichaelCWBell 3 года назад +35

    The last mvt of this sonata has one of the most fascinating subjects by merit of melodic shape and rhythm. It also has an incredible seriousness underlying a fireworks show of dance intrigue. Amazing.

  • @davidcallahan2832
    @davidcallahan2832 3 года назад +11

    Havinga shows us graceful hands and feet perfectly at ease in the treachery of Bach's magnificent notes.

  • @christiangehrke1428
    @christiangehrke1428 4 года назад +172

    Probably the most magnificent organ/case in the world. I will never forget walking in four years ago and turning to the right and being absolutely stunned. Luckily there was an organist there who was practicing, and I didn’t leave for the entire time. Naturally, he was playing Bach :)

    • @Vindebyvej
      @Vindebyvej 4 года назад +7

      The big Marcussen organ i Rotterdam in Grote Kert is in the same class...

    • @cromorno8749
      @cromorno8749 4 года назад +7

      @@Vindebyvej No, absolutely not

    • @buzzardflight1
      @buzzardflight1 4 года назад +3

      My very same experience two years ago. Fabulous

    • @Vindebyvej
      @Vindebyvej 4 года назад +2

      @@cromorno8749 And you say that because you have been there, seen and heard the Marcussen organ?

    • @cromorno8749
      @cromorno8749 4 года назад

      @@Vindebyvej I say that because I study with this two organs on my hauptwerk console

  • @powerliftingcentaur
    @powerliftingcentaur 4 года назад +49

    This is one of those videos I am going to come back to again and again. Bach’s genius is so rapturously apparent. The artistry of the organist is fully commensurate with that genius.

    • @caseyflorida
      @caseyflorida 4 года назад +6

      I have been in that church and heard that organ in person way back in 1994. It is absolutely stunning both visually and sound-wise. It is one of my favorite organs in the world, and Matthias Havinga is one of my favorite organists. I would have loved to have been there for this!

    • @magikopa
      @magikopa 3 года назад +2

      Very well said! Organ = J.S.Bach

    • @davebarclay4429
      @davebarclay4429 3 года назад

      ​@@caseyflorida The next time you visit the Netherlands try to hear the van Hagebeer/Schnitger organ in the Sint-Laurenskerk Alkmaar. If anything it is even more wonderful.

  • @thomasramdasvoegeli
    @thomasramdasvoegeli 3 года назад +9

    Ich habe die Sonaten auch gespielt. Die Wiedergabe von Matthias ist top. Top! Artikulation, Tempo, Agogik, die kleinen und großen Bögen....alles so, wie ich es mir wünsche. Mon Dieu, danke, Matthias.

  • @videoDemon
    @videoDemon 3 года назад +13

    Beyond the din of history, beyond the dust of time, beyond the banality of us all, the genius of BACH remains. Would that one of us may have achieved in a lifetime what BACH achieved in a day.

  • @felipedej.cervera6514
    @felipedej.cervera6514 3 года назад +13

    Absolutely in tears. This is one of my everyday conversations with God.

    • @tahaouhabi3520
      @tahaouhabi3520 2 года назад

      There is something different with this music , it's not a feeling it's not an impression it's the presence of something or someone big , huge you just can't describe it

  • @user-gc4zi8vk7g
    @user-gc4zi8vk7g 3 года назад +17

    Of all the trio sonatas, I like this song the most. I will never forget the indescribable shock when I first heard it. It's been a long time since then, but it's still one of my favorite songs.

  • @notaire2
    @notaire2 4 года назад +30

    Wunderschöne und tiefempfundene Aufführung dieser perfekt komponierten Sonate im lyrischen Tempo mit durchsichtigen doch etwas warmherzigen Tönen der historischen Orgel sowie mit perfekt kontrollierter Dynamik. Wahrlich genialer Organist!

  • @tjwhite1963
    @tjwhite1963 3 года назад +44

    As always, splendid playing by the incomparable Matthias Havinga! Bravo! Fluid, flawless execution, and a clear separation of the voices ... not to mention the stunning instrument, and awesome photography! What more can anyone want?

  • @unoaked
    @unoaked 2 года назад +8

    Wonderful performance. Kudos also to Flentrop for maintaining this magnificent organ. It's easy to believe that Handel and a 10-year-old Mozart were drawn to play on it.

  • @iandykstra3138
    @iandykstra3138 2 года назад +3

    What a precious dialogue!! Having a has the skill and wisdom to evoke such profound emotions. Magnificent retorica.
    Thank you! Ian/ Canada

  • @magikopa
    @magikopa 3 года назад +6

    Bach's musical work is eternal, for it reaches the depths of human soul!

  • @1me0815
    @1me0815 3 года назад +7

    Sicherlich einer der BESTEN Trio Sonaten Interpretationen die ich seit langem gehört habe.👏👏👏BRAVO! Habe für mich selbst auch wieder neue Möglichkeiten gehört die ich bei meinem Orgelspiel bei den Sonaten sicherlich verbessern kann😅

  • @roelyhofsink1612
    @roelyhofsink1612 4 года назад +7

    Prachtig om deze organist te zien en te horen spelen....

  • @pauldoerflingerMarcoPolo1947
    @pauldoerflingerMarcoPolo1947 4 года назад +11

    Toute merveilleuse interprétation de ce chef-d’œuvre de J.S.Bach .

  • @SnapperSk8
    @SnapperSk8 8 месяцев назад +1

    Not sure I would have survived this performance in person. My soul would have exploded out of pure elation.

  • @donvromans6921
    @donvromans6921 3 года назад +4

    Dank zij dit mooie orgel en de warme registratie haalt de organist de mooiste klanken eruit en komt dit geniale stuk optimaal tot zijn recht

  • @ttwiligh7
    @ttwiligh7 4 года назад +27

    I love the rendition of the second movement. Most soulfully played. Like a real conversation of human voice.

    • @OldPannonian
      @OldPannonian 11 месяцев назад

      This middle movement was my first attempt to get into the organ sonatas. It was a magical discovery for me. At that time I had access to several pipe organs in various churches. All you needed was to build up a friendly and innocent relationship with the church secretary. They were usually in the church office during the day.

  • @ellaspeed6914
    @ellaspeed6914 3 года назад +2

    Zu all dem Lob für die Musik möchte ich ein Dankeschön für die Aufnahmen des wunderbaren Hauptschiffes der Sint-Bavokerk hinzufügen.

  • @createandbuildcorporation
    @createandbuildcorporation 3 года назад +5

    Wonderful and Sound-full bach here, I love it.

  • @martinh.3972
    @martinh.3972 4 года назад +10

    Superb Performance. Best Channel on RUclips.

  • @g.k.failla9389
    @g.k.failla9389 3 года назад +2

    This was my introduction to the Netherlands Bach Society. I listen to it often. (Subscribed soon after). From Chicago, U.S.A.

  • @coolhandphilip
    @coolhandphilip 9 месяцев назад +2

    Havinga great time listening to this!

  • @shin-i-chikozima
    @shin-i-chikozima 4 года назад +9

    Bach's kind and tender melody is deeply imbued in my heart .
    From Tokyo of the Land of the Rising Sun .

    • @dauntlesschicken9756
      @dauntlesschicken9756 4 года назад +2

      You have a beautiful soul.

    • @shin-i-chikozima
      @shin-i-chikozima 4 года назад +1

      @@dauntlesschicken9756
      Thank-you so much to your kind your reply !
      How is your conditions and your country ?
      In Japan , especially Tokyo ,
      the Coronavirus infection of the amusement area ( night club , host club , karaoke snack , cabaret club , etc. ) employees and young people
      increases .
      People are hustle and bustle with increasing Coronavirus infection .
      Be on the alert for Coronavirus infection
      We must be never careless to Coronavirus infection .
      Someday please visit Japan where the cherry blossom in full bloom are in full glory .
      Japanese spring is the dream of dream ,

    • @dauntlesschicken9756
      @dauntlesschicken9756 4 года назад +2

      @@shin-i-chikozima I am from Manila, Philippines and yes, I have visited your country - in Osaka and Tokyo. I have many fond memories there. The covid-19 cases here is about 1,000 per day so I'm being careful. You stay safe too.

    • @shin-i-chikozima
      @shin-i-chikozima 4 года назад +1

      @@dauntlesschicken9756
      Thank-you so much to your wonderful reply !
      Take care of yourself
      Good luck !
      We are both proudhearted Asians
      Hang in there !

  • @grahamnancledra7036
    @grahamnancledra7036 4 года назад +17

    First of all thank you to the NBS for making this work available for me to experience and appreciate. I must admit that I've not been familiar with this work before so it's a first time experience for me.
    First experiences of any musical work makes a massive impression on a persons brain, and indeed I found this performance highly pleasing, comforting and satisfying. I am certain that I shall return many times to experience this work.
    My chief (English colloquialism) "beef" is the description is of the written description of the key of D Minor in this work. I'm no musicologist by any means but a complete music lover and "worshipper" of Bach's compositions and so I was hoping for a better clarification of Bach's use of the key of D Minor in this work. Indeed it sound very unusual.
    As always my immense gratitude to NBS for presenting this video for my enjoyment, and indeed I have experienced tremendous joy from the performance from Matthias Havinga and please pass my warmest thanks to him and to all at NBS who have made this video possible for me to watch and enjoy. As Always, Greetings to you all form Port Morseby, Papua New Guinea.

    • @bach
      @bach  4 года назад +9

      Great to read that you enjoy this music so much!
      A bit more explanation about the key of D minor (and this work) can be found on our website: www.bachvereniging.nl/en/bwv/bwv-527/
      But as always with Bach’s music: you don’t need in-depth knowledge to just love his music!

  • @powerliftingcentaur
    @powerliftingcentaur 4 года назад +11

    I woke up to this today. I sorely needed it. Thank you, kindly.

  • @user-ru8vy1uz7c
    @user-ru8vy1uz7c 2 года назад +5

    Bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo fantastic
    grandiose genial music

  • @JoannaLouise200
    @JoannaLouise200 3 года назад +4

    Bach is profoundly, heavenly elevating, yet consummately grounding!

  • @nickwarden6355
    @nickwarden6355 3 года назад +10

    Another impeccable performance by MH. I love everything about his playing style an interpretation. Thankyou!

  • @jamydelpias
    @jamydelpias 3 года назад +5

    Sublissime Johannes Sebastian and Matthias🙏

  • @arukapinaka5564
    @arukapinaka5564 3 года назад +5

    Perfect tempo and phrasing : BRAVO !

  • @dirksmits4421
    @dirksmits4421 4 года назад +8

    Beautiful playing on the organ of my birth place

  • @samshearman5251
    @samshearman5251 3 года назад +5

    This heavenly played so beautifully.

  • @hjracerpalthe9310
    @hjracerpalthe9310 4 года назад +3

    Wat is muziek van Bach toch altijd geweldig en wat klinkt het prachtig op zo'n mooi orgel
    G

  • @bobh5087
    @bobh5087 4 года назад +11

    A stunning performance. Many thanks. 👍❤️

  • @hopelessnerd6677
    @hopelessnerd6677 4 года назад +7

    Magnificent! And that organ is a playable work of art.

  • @mauriciomoskowsky566
    @mauriciomoskowsky566 11 месяцев назад +1

    Admirable, que riqueza la de J. S. Bach y la del ejecutante, las vistas excelentes, gloria al creador. !!!!!!

  • @Cr-Mo-C-Mn
    @Cr-Mo-C-Mn 3 года назад +3

    The third part almost makes me cry with the beautifully transparent sound.

  • @enzocypriani5055
    @enzocypriani5055 3 года назад +2

    Thanks netherlands bach society. We are very grateful

  • @Harambe2016
    @Harambe2016 3 года назад +2

    Geweldig mooi gespeeld Mathias Havinga.

  • @kasjer
    @kasjer 4 года назад +33

    Where is the WOW button?

  • @FPortraits
    @FPortraits Год назад +2

    Крутота невероятная) чрезвычайнейше красиво! Приятно видеть и слышать такую чудесную игру!

  • @ferr3ir4s7
    @ferr3ir4s7 Год назад +3

    Beautiful! Thank you! Love this sonata.

  • @jycath4122
    @jycath4122 9 месяцев назад

    Cette video est magnifique. La très belle église, l'orgue et l'organiste sont remarquablement bien filmés.
    Cette sonate de Bach est si belle et l'interprétation de Matthias Havinga est merveilleuse par le tempo et la registration. Une des plus belles qui m'émeut profondément avec celle d'André Isoir.
    Merci NBS pour cette diffusion.

  • @gavrinmahaffey3656
    @gavrinmahaffey3656 4 года назад +8

    Wonderful playing,in particular the second movement,truly sublime!thank you for calm amongst chaos 🙏

  • @AlexandreSantos-gu1qd
    @AlexandreSantos-gu1qd 4 года назад +26

    Simplesmente maravilhoso!!! Uma viagem a belos acessos da alma!!! Soberbo!!👏👏👏🇧🇷

    • @gapfran
      @gapfran 4 года назад +2

      Incrível, não é? Bach é um milagre! (Bom ver outros brasileiros apreciando essas maravilhas)

    • @marcelobrunorodrigues7630
      @marcelobrunorodrigues7630 4 года назад +2

      @Refletindo Sobre o Espaço Tanto voltar no tempo como ser contemporâneo: a música para órgão é imorredoura. Eu mesmo sou brasileiro e componho sempre que me vem um tema à mente. Inclusive o órgão (clássico ou erudito) é minha formação acadêmica em pleno Brasil. O instrumento desta gravação é famoso e, muitos entre outros que gravaram nele, foi o famoso alemão Walter Kraft (1905-1977) quando fez sua integral de Bach para órgão em 1967: aqui ele gravou os BWV 711, 695, 709, 632, 706, 633, 572, 720, 565 e 768.

    • @marcelobrunorodrigues7630
      @marcelobrunorodrigues7630 4 года назад +1

      @Refletindo Sobre o Espaço Curiosidade: o que conhece da literatura organística? Só sei que, salvo engano, é a que tem o repertório mais vasto registrado (anotado) para um só instrumento, excetuando a literatura vocal. Veja como o pessoal que postou aqui aprecia música para órgão: eu toquei em 1994 a convite dum professor alemão que, entre outras coisas, é organista, pianista, cravista, regente do coro da igreja onde toca (sucedendo ao posto que antes era do pai dele), musicólogo especializado na literatura norueguesa para órgão (esse foi o tema da tese de doutorado dele), além de me deixar de presente como prova de amizade e apreço um artigo intitulado "8 séculos de música para órgão", trabalho de intensa pesquisa realizada por ele numa época em que a internet acessível ainda dava seus primeiros passos. Tenho um outro amigo que, embora não seja cravista como o anterior, compõe belíssimas obras, das quais algumas estão disponíveis em partitura, e que me deu de presente, entre outras coisas, 6 prelúdios-corais para órgão recém-descobertos de Handel, que são verdadeiramente fora-de-série: aqui em Brasília, onde moro, devo ter feito a primeira apresentação deles a nível nacional ou pelo menos local. Agora vou ler o comentário do organista do vídeo sobre a obra que tocou: aposto que é interessante.

    • @marcelobrunorodrigues7630
      @marcelobrunorodrigues7630 4 года назад

      ​@@gapfran Parabéns, possui bom gosto musical: antes de tudo, permita que eu lhe informe que sou um organista brasileiro que, entre outras coisas, compõe música para órgão.

    • @marcelobrunorodrigues7630
      @marcelobrunorodrigues7630 4 года назад +2

      Parabéns, possui bom gosto musical: antes de tudo, permita que eu lhe informe que sou um organista brasileiro que, entre outras coisas, compõe música para órgão.

  • @christerkohn429
    @christerkohn429 3 года назад +5

    Wonderful tempo, registration and feelings! Think You!

  • @veradabronyi6147
    @veradabronyi6147 4 года назад +3

    Wunderschöne Musik, wunderbar gespielt, danke vielmals!

  • @karstenbiastoch2606
    @karstenbiastoch2606 4 года назад +4

    Very nice, a dream of harmony and peace 🌺🎶...Bach

  • @marcsuanez7877
    @marcsuanez7877 Год назад +3

    Une merveille musicale de ce génie .

  • @amber40494
    @amber40494 2 года назад +3

    Magnificent performance! I've got chills!

  • @mariagraziawettstein4076
    @mariagraziawettstein4076 4 года назад +6

    Thank you .Wonderful playing

  • @ulisescervantes
    @ulisescervantes 4 года назад +8

    What a beauty. Greatness. Loved the interpretation,.

  • @martinjandijkstra3205
    @martinjandijkstra3205 4 года назад +4

    In een woord prachtig. Ik luister veel naar de triosonatas, hebben een therapeutische werking. De versies die ik ken (olivier vernet) gaan vrij gehaast, deze uitvoering laat de contrasten beter horen. Mooi!

  • @karlrovey
    @karlrovey 3 года назад +14

    You can definitely see which pedals get the most usage on this instrument.

  • @vladoratkovsky8214
    @vladoratkovsky8214 3 года назад +4

    Beautiful interpretation and regisration. Fantastic.

  • @Quintade8
    @Quintade8 4 года назад +11

    Wonderful interpretation and gorgeous organ!

  • @marielouisecurtis-bron6413
    @marielouisecurtis-bron6413 4 года назад +9

    QUELLE MERVEILLE!!!! MERCI!!!!

  • @yomikyo
    @yomikyo 3 года назад +4

    A true gem. Jest perfect.

  • @Reino_X
    @Reino_X 4 года назад +4

    1st part is my favorite, i'd enjoy hearing trio sonata's no. 4 too 😻

  • @joshuadoxen7586
    @joshuadoxen7586 3 года назад +6

    An excellent rendition

  • @shin-i-chikozima
    @shin-i-chikozima 4 года назад +20

    It is a feeling of the supreme bliss exposed to the snowstorm to my whole body of cherry blossom petals totally in full bloom .
    From Tokyo of the Land of the Rising Sun .

  • @rosamercedesgilfuentes9219
    @rosamercedesgilfuentes9219 4 года назад +3

    El sonido perfecto de la música clásica como se la llamaba nos traslada a un mundo de paz o de gloria junto a la creación de Bach.
    Otros nos trasladan a espacios de rebeldía o ira todo eso en cada nota o acorde de sus grandes autores.

  • @benevincit8244
    @benevincit8244 3 года назад +3

    Благодарю за прекрасную музыку и великолепное исполнение !

  • @humbertotrachuk8438
    @humbertotrachuk8438 4 года назад +11

    Sonata muy dulce, una gran interpretación, un saludo de MZA.Argentina.

  • @albertlennips3582
    @albertlennips3582 2 года назад +3

    Bravo. Goddelijke gespeeld heer Havinga.

  • @OldPannonian
    @OldPannonian 11 месяцев назад

    No organ sounds as magnificent, uplifting, rich, high fidelity, as a Dutch-built organ. To me, they are magical!

  • @vitaliyprokopov5311
    @vitaliyprokopov5311 4 года назад +14

    Heaven's MUSIC

  • @phwbooth
    @phwbooth 4 года назад +5

    A fine performance. Thanks.

  • @peterb9466
    @peterb9466 4 года назад +5

    So nice sound to listen to. Verry well played !!

  • @georgep.burdell7237
    @georgep.burdell7237 4 года назад +6

    This is so beautiful, just what I needed today.

  • @johnejankiewicz6635
    @johnejankiewicz6635 3 года назад +2

    I am familiar with this sonata from a transcription for recorder, violin and BC. Powerful music.

  • @lenanielsen5903
    @lenanielsen5903 4 года назад +9

    So beautiful🍃love the sound🍃

  • @user-rb4cb1dv9p
    @user-rb4cb1dv9p 3 года назад +4

    Wow its stunning 😍 thank you 🙏💚💖

  • @machida5114
    @machida5114 4 года назад +6

    It sounds very good. I have no other words.

  • @Roberto-vc1zv
    @Roberto-vc1zv 2 года назад +3

    Quanta luz o mundo ocidental propagou. Que o passado possa redimir o presente. Soli Deo gloria.

    • @OldPannonian
      @OldPannonian 11 месяцев назад +1

      You can say that again!

  • @1963Nicholas
    @1963Nicholas 4 года назад +4

    Geweldig mooi , hartelijke dank voor deze upload!

  • @Siberiaeterna
    @Siberiaeterna 3 года назад +4

    Absolument magnifique merci !

  • @janholstein
    @janholstein 4 года назад +5

    Zeer beheerst en fijn gevoel voor articulatie. Geweldig!

  • @hyekyungnoh1086
    @hyekyungnoh1086 4 года назад +5

    Beautiful interpretation. I love it.

  • @gonzalotobellamatas7388
    @gonzalotobellamatas7388 4 года назад +4

    Espectacular la obra,el órgano y el organista.

  • @robertogramolini
    @robertogramolini 4 года назад +18

    Wonderful music in a wonderful church

  • @TheMmau100
    @TheMmau100 4 года назад +11

    Thank you so much for the bach videos :)

  • @late8641
    @late8641 4 года назад +3

    Please publish the 4th trio sonata, I think it's the greatest of the trio sonatas!

  • @myramyr09
    @myramyr09 2 года назад +3

    Capolavoro assoluto...ci si sente vicini a Dio....

  • @iantaylor3721
    @iantaylor3721 2 года назад +3

    This is gorgeous. What is the registration? Is that an oboe on the swell or clarinet? Is there a mutation stop?

  • @OldPannonian
    @OldPannonian 11 месяцев назад

    That Vivace movement is something else to play! I managed to learn the first two movements, then I looked at the third movement and immediately switched to look at Sonata #4.......

  • @siriojanicolaev3389
    @siriojanicolaev3389 4 года назад +4

    Splendid !

  • @marcelobrunorodrigues7630
    @marcelobrunorodrigues7630 3 года назад +1

    I know some Brazilian organists that told me to not use 16 stops for the pedals all the time: I think they are mistaken, because we must remember among many details the central movement of the 2nd trio sonata, BWV/S. 526 as clear example.

  • @danw1955
    @danw1955 4 года назад +2

    What a beautiful instrument! Saving this one for later listening.😁🎵🎶🎵👍 *EDIT:* Did anyone happen to notice how much wear is on the pedal board? You *know* that organ has been around for a while.😉

  • @pedroyurac2713
    @pedroyurac2713 4 года назад +7

    Realmente bellísimo !

  • @alkanista
    @alkanista 3 года назад +1

    I thought the wee little hole in his right sock made it especially endearing, for some reason.
    Excellent playing, and the beauty of the instrument is really quite striking.

    • @l.g.8028
      @l.g.8028 3 года назад

      Ah, that’s what make this player human! Isn’t this rendition amazingly beautiful?

  • @williemoller5630
    @williemoller5630 3 года назад +3

    Baie Mooi gespeel!

  • @maurocacchi490
    @maurocacchi490 4 года назад +4

    Bravissimo!!!

  • @SonideroMX
    @SonideroMX 3 года назад +3

    Magnifico Felicidades

  • @josephmillraney1061
    @josephmillraney1061 4 года назад +2

    Ausgezeichnet! Vielen Dank!