2021 Z900 Break-In Period | This SUCKS!!
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Okay okay can somebody just hit fast forward and get me through this break-In period 😂 all love for the Z900 so far though 💯
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My 2020 Z900 was my first "big boy" bike as well. Coming from a Z400, I kept it in Rain mode for the first 300-400 miles until i was use to the weight, ride eurgonomics, handling and performance. At 2k, I still keep it in ROAD mode, as there is no need to kill myself with this. The traction control has saved my bacon , preventing an unplanned wheely. An amazing bike. Super happy with it, super sad the riding season has ended... in regards to break in period, always follow the manual. It's written for a reason. Also know that if push came to shove, the black box will tell them how you have been riding and they can void your warranty if the read that you have been racing the bike or rex bombing it regularly.
Lol riding it hard isn't excluded from warranty so long as you have proof of doing the required routine maintenance. And road mode is way more sketchy than sport because it causes the front wheel to skip under hard acceleration. I'd rather have it come off the ground clean a few inches of for the front end to be bouncing and the bars going back and forth, left to right
@@TheAsheybabe89 What you explained happened to me and i crashed it within a few days of having it. I didn't understand what had happened until now so thank you! i thought road would be safer than sport and i was wrong lol!! i was able to get another one and have been following the owners manual to the "T" now.
@@mizbre989 how the hell did you get a new one just because of crashing it? Insurance?
Glad I ran across this video regarding break in. Going to be picking up my Z900 on Saturday. Proper break in is so important.
@@jeffk3929 Interesting, my dealer told me to let it warm up while I’m putting my gloves and helmet on, then go ride it however I’m going to in the long run. As long as I hit the proper maintenance intervals I’m good to go.
Bikes are dyno'd to the Rev limiter in the factory before they ever leave the plant. Don't have to baby the bike. The break in is more for liability because the last thing manufacturers want riders to do is go balls to the wall on a brand new engine, transmission, tires, etc. Ride it normally with spirited runs here and there with decent heat cycles in between. Engine break-in main goal is to seat the piston rings nicely to the cylinder.
Just bought a new Z900 and always stick to the running in period recommended by the manufacturers.Think it gives you a nice period to get used to the feel of the bike, I try and keep it off motorways and dual carriageways as it's a bit embarrassing when you can only hit 60 ish, when everyone else is overtaking you doing 70mph + 😂
I had a motorcycle mechanic say the best way is to get up to 60 in 3rd gear then let off throttle and let it engine break, do that about 3xs getting through 1st 2nd &3rd up to 60, and it seals everything quite well, then ride mostly normal - don’t gun it or rev it high and lay off cruise while alternating your speed. I did 1 bike per manufacturer and 1 this way, and it felt the mechanics suggestion worked very well. This was a a Harley mechanic so not sure if foreign bikes are different
I just bought a 2022 Kawasaki z900! I can’t wait to have it broke in! Going 12 o’clock and all the good stuff that comes with it!
I prefer to listen to the engineers who built the bike rather than from youtubers saying ride it like you stole it.
I've owned tons of bikes over the years. I just ride it pretty normally and change the oil at 500 miles then keep on keeping on! I had a new 2006 Yamaha FZ6 when I was 21. I let my stepdad ride it with 80 miles on it and told him to be easy it was in the break in period... He proceeded to do the sickest 1 minute burnout bouncing it off the rev limiter. He told me he "set the rings for me" haha I was pissed at him for a few days but I ended up putting 50,000 miles on that bike and it never burned a drop of oil. Was one of the best running bikes that I ever owned. I sold it and it probably went at least another 20k miles. What I'm getting at is just keep up your maintenance, change your oil like you're supposed to and just enjoy it. Don't sweat it if you don't follow the break in procedure to a T. Stay safe and have fun!
Just picked one up today. Can’t wait to break it in. It’s like the calm before the storm
Yessir! Enjoy it 💪🏼
I bought a z650 2 months ago and I went over 4k rpm a good bit! I wouldn't do it all the time but you need to hit it hard sometimes and bring it directly back down to 4k!! By the way I'm trading it for a z900se next week!!😂🤣 need more power and better sound!!🤙🤙🤙👍💪💪
Sweet! Enjoy the 900!!
I just bought a 2022 Z900 SE. I also came from a CBR500R, but I had an intermediate step before I got to the Z; namely a CBR650F.
I always follow the break-in period for my vehicles based on their manufacturer recommendations. I just think the engineers that built it would know best. Looking forward to your content. Subscribed.
You dont have to bother vid that break in. Have the same bike same year. Just take it a little gentle the first 500km or so. After that I ride as usual, just change oil around 1000km. And a good fully synthetic oil.
That's pretty much my plan👌🏼
RevZilla actually did a bike break in video. They got 2 bikes one very gently broken in and the other ridden decently hard. They then disassembled the engines and found no difference in piston rings, valve seats anything. Don't take my word for it look it up.
Basically just use bike like normal and don't crazy pin the throttle or race it and it's fine
For modern 4 cylinder short stroke engines, you basically run it up to redline once, and this seats the piston rings and cylinder seals and its broken in. Throughout the first 500-1k miles you will get tiny microscopic aluminum shavings in your oil from the laser tight clearances. So just make sure to change your oil and filter relatively quickly and often for the first 1kish miles. (At least twice.) After that its pretty much smooth sailing. Keep your chain cleaned and lubed.
The break-in recommendation manufacturers give you are way overkill.
There's been studies done and even a video on it about how you can ride it like they recommend or you can go balls to the wall constantly and there's no discernible difference between the motors.
When people build engines for performance oftentimes they will vary their RPMs from 1,000 up to about 4,000 for the first 15 to 20 minutes. Then they will do a few more aggressive pulls.
They will use a non-synthetic oil, and change it after the first 30-45 mins of doing this.
Then they put more non synthetic and ride/drive it for a couple hundred miles, and then use synthetic.
When you are breaking an engine in, the biggest thing you are doing is bedding in the cylinder walls and the piston rings. There are also a lot of other rotating and moving parts that rub against each other, and in the process the components all become very smooth and essentially lapped into each other. The majority of this happens relatively quickly, within again the first 20 minutes or so. The best recommendation is to just stay out of anything over 4 to 5,000 RPMs for the first 20 minutes or so and to change your oil immediately, because all of those microscopic particulates will now be in the oil. They actually make some stuff that is specifically for this, and it is not as slick and contains some products that help the process happen.
But anyway, after you replace the motor oil for fresh stuff use more non-synthetic because the synthetic is too slick and it will keep things from bedding in properly. The motor will finish breaking in with normal use. After your first couple hundred miles switch over to a regular synthetic or a high performance oil for longevity.
But you don't need to drive it that slow. The manufacturer does that so it's idiot proof.
If youre not right you sounded real good being wrong. Lol
@@charlesbatsold31 that's because it's something we all wish was true. The reality is I will care for my hard earned motorcycle the best way I can and a 1000km is something I'm willing to sacrifice for it.
Yes young man I've heard people say break it in like you're going to ride it, but me personally I've had five street bikes and many dirt bikes, you should always break it in by the book. All the new parts are tight they need to break in together smoothly. Just be patient, I also have a Kawasaki z900 ABS ( 2018 ) & still love it.
It's a nightmare. I'm at 160 miles right now in January in Scotland. Can't even get out and play just now because of the miserable weather
I broke in a 2021 Z900 fairly hard. I did let it warm up for a few minutes before riding for the first few times bit. I also made an effort to vary my rpms and not cruise at one rpm too much. But I banged gears to redline pretty much from day one whenever I wanted to. 3500 miles on it now and all seems well. I have the extended warranty if not🤷🏻♂️
very unwise approach imo... the engines these days are built w/ such precision that it's unlikely to damage them under full load straight from the factory.. that being said, the brakes and tires just can't offer proper performance when new.
I’m following owners manual on my 2022 but several times I’ve went over 4,000. It does say you can go over 4,000 rpm for a short period as well as over 6,000 for the 250-400 mile break in. At least you have twisty roads, there aren’t that many in the mid west where I’m at.
I would always follow the break in instructions for ANY vehicle. but not because it can break the engine. you can basically redline a brand new engine and it wont break it. but rather because an engine that has been properly broken (?) in actually makes a bit more power and has better fuel economy than one that hasn't been.
Got mine new, did around 4 to 6 k for the first 250 miles, then rode it like normal, hit redline a few times, let it engine brake, no issues. Broke it in in under a week. Oil wasn't really that bad. A lil gray. Id say ride it smoothly for 250 miles, then have at it. Ijs you do have a year warranty.
Honestly, listen to the engineers that designed the motorcycle you buy that is brand new... If the engineers say it should have a break in period, just follow the break in procedure.. If you don't wanna listen to the engineers then fine.. but just remember, if something happens to your engine, that ecu in there will tell them if you went over the required rpms during break in. And it will void your warranty.
I was a good boy 👼
Yes - engineers who are pretty good (I'm under exaggerating - they are next-level), tend to know more than the "experts" on the interwebs. 🙄
Listen to the Owner's Manual!
just bought a 2023 z900 an im at 250 miles ive been keeping it below 7k i stayed at 4k for like 50 miles you need to give it a little just not for prolonged time the manual says that. also thats a massive upgrade from the 500 be safe
Ohhh man, these 600 miles are gonna suck for me 😄
varying the RPM is the most important thing in the break-in period... also the engine and transmission experience harder stress when run under the recommended RPM for the given gear (than revving over the recommended limit). brakes and tires also under-perform when new.
:} it's wise to trust the engineers who design/built the machines.
Do I listen? Yeah I do, it honestly the 4K rpm’s is unrealistic. I’ve called around and I’ve talked to the dealer. Keep it under 8k for the break in.
About the same here. Got a good variation of rpms without overdoing it for the first 600 miles.
Got my Z900 2 weeks ago and hitting 85kmph and having to go into 6th gear is horrible. They quoted me 800km for the break in, but at least I'm already at 550. Could do it all in a single day off if I REALLY wanted to, but no rush since my 1st service isn't scheduled till my new exhaust arrives in mid August. C'est la vie I suppose.
Have fun!
Just bought a Z650 a couple of months ago and the break in is entirely unrealistic as they want you to keep it below 4000rpm for the first 400kms or some such. The fastest speed you can do at 4000rpm is about 80kph! Needless to say I just rode it anyway at the 100kph speed limit on my work commute making sure to alter revs and load accordingly so it wasn’t just sitting at the same rpm constantly. Was only doing 4800rpm at 100kph so I don’t think it would be a major issue wrt engine wear etc.
Nice video, love those roads man. I’d love to come to the USA and ride on twisties like those! As for the break in, you can break it in how you want in my opinion, most bikes don’t mind a harder break i for the first 200 miles than nannying it around. As long as you don’t redline it every where. A few revs here and there will not hurt it at all. That bike is awesome man 👍🏻
Thanks for the input, I completely agree with you!
I just bought a 2023. 3000 rpm in 6th feels like it’s lugging. I’m pressing it a little further in 6th. I’m thinking lugging is worse than over reving to 5000 or so. 53 miles to work one way I’ll be done with this nonsense soon. Overall it’s a great bike.
Correction I bought the z650. No way in hell both my bike and the z900 should have the same break in specs. Engineers may know best but they don’t have final say as to what gets printed.
I am starting my break in on my new black and white z900 now. It is extremely tempting to push it past the 4000 rpm mark.
I would recommend getting a nice variation of RPMs. You won’t hurt the bike at all if you get it up to 6k-8k rpms and then let off
I live in phoenix. I ride a z400. Gonna upgrade to the z900 in a a year or 2
After 500cc, going full throttle on a 900cc straight away is not a good idea regardless 😅
I believe in the break-in. 1000% you do it correctly. You will last a very long time.
I bought a 2024 z900 SE and I definitely hit above 4,000 a couple of times already but I have been keeping it under 45mph
Congrats on the new bike! Its Awesome! Have fun!
if you plan to keep the bike for many year, just follow the break in period, if you know you will change in 2 years, send it.....that's why I dont buy use bike anymore XD
Quality advice 👌🏼
I’ve got 25 miles left for my break in period, and it has been painful 😣
Did you do it by the manufacturer recommendation? Under 4k rpm’s until 250 miles? Then under 6K rpm’s until 400 miles?
My triumph tiger 900 break in was painful!! But I follow it religiously on all my bikes..
Never did it just drove my like hell the first day i got it
Looks just like my z650 which has just past 250 miles yesterday gonna get the bump to 6k rpm tomorrow. Can’t wait
Ride safe 🙌🏼
@@AndrewHartsock always. Actually the rpm bump will mean a more comfortable ride for both me and my bike on the highway 🛣 since I live in NYC it’s not too often that I can open the throttle but when I do it’s glorious
A bike isn't fully broke in until 2000 miles. Everything before that is "controlled wear" ride it normally not beating the balls off it but not babying it and change the oil at 500 & 1500 miles. Then your good to go! I just got my new 2022 cbr 500r for commuting and have put 2100 miles on it in 3 weeks.
This Z900 is really worth to considered if ever I upgrade my Z50, Ride safe bro...
Just ride normally, no need to baby-in the bike, don't whack it just ride with mix style and condition on each gear.
I easily took the bike to 100mph.in 6th gear on the Delivery day and avoided stress on first three gears.
Sometimes.good acceleration, braking will help sitting the seals properly.
Cheers !!
I think you should probably do what they have told and don't rev it above 4000rpm because a friend of mine had a 150cc bike(i know it is a big difference between this and that but they both have engines running the same way) he just pushed it to the limit on his first ride and his engine got stuck, like the piston got stuck, something like that. By the way love your bike and ride safe!✌👊
I've been babying it for the first few hundred but as I get more miles the bike tempts me more and more hahahaha
@@AndrewHartsock Yeah i can tell, hahaha
cant wait to get mine z900 SE.........!
Any one please tell me what is the triangle looking sign next Fuel ⛽️? Is that bad ?
If you don't stick to the break in period. It will burn oil a lot faster. I think that the new 500r has dual calipers on the front.
Yes it does. And inverted front forks… I’m jealous haha
Drive fast, take chances. Kitty kitty. 😊
when i bought my 2020 z900 i pulled away from the dealership with 1 mile hitting 10,000 rpm. still no issues
Full send 😤
Just got my 2023 z900 and i hit the throttle hard whenever i wanted to. I am not a believer of soft break ins since i started riding. I haven't had any problems with my previous bikes whatsoever so i think you should enjoy the bike out of the box. Ride safe!
Am at 800 miles on my 2021 z900 haven broke in the bike
Do you guys even know how they tested out all the NEW BIKES on track at the factory? The only reasons they want you to follow the break in period is so that we don't make any warranty claim from the manufacturer. Besides, we better "ride it like we stole it" because if the bike have any problem we can go straight to warranty claim
Just no, no, no. A break-in period is a legitimate process - especially for a bike that revs to 10k.
As was already stated by someone else here, if something goes wrong, and you take it to the dealer, thr the first thing they will do is to scan the datalog/ECU. You don't want to risk voiding your warranty.
Congratulations sir. I have the same bike 2018. Just fallow what the dealer says because is anything go wrong you cover.
I have a ton of interstate from my house to work. I will have to ease it up to our 80mph speed limit. I'm going to have to break the brake in rules.
You’ll be just fine! It’s a good thing to get a variety of RPM’s
It's not bad to go over 4000; stay under it as a general rule and as often as you can. But if you briefly go over that "limit" up to about 7000, you're not gonna hurt anything. I wouldn't go over 4000 under the first 130 miles or so though, but after that it should be fine.
What do I have to do after the 0-350km/ 4000rpm still flashing ...
Buy a reflective safety vest and turn off the high beam.
genious.
Beautiful video and colour! Did you colour grade the video or was it straight out of camera?
Being a heavy rider I could feel the bike pull to the side on my Cb500f
Does it take longer to start your bike compared to a smaller bike? I had a z650 that started right up every time. My z900 I have to hold the starter longer. Thoughts?
Break it in the right way...... and after a week of riding you will mess with it :D....
Put some racing brake lines and brembo pads and your stopping will be a bit more brutal ;)
Honestly considering they rev the hell out of the engine at the factory to stress test it, I think the break-in period is partly just for safety. FortNine recommends just riding it like normal, though I just listened to my manual and stayed under 6k revs for my 500r.
I agree. As I get more miles on it I seem to care less and less hahaha
And you know this how? Sure they test some samples, but to say every one made gets rev bombed to test it is not very accurate.
@@broderp I'm basing this on a BMW s1000rr factory documentary, where they seemed to stress test their engines with high revs before leaving the factory. Seems like a logical thing to do, to make sure every engine is safe. Can't speak for every factory though, no.
You can go easy to 5500 rpm in the beginning.
Great road!
He'll no, fuck it send it.
I do what FortNine says ☺️
I'll check it out. Thanks for sharing!
Does kawasaki limit the RPM of this bike while running in?
planning to buy one
I perfer to break it in the way the manufacturer says
Fair enough
@@AndrewHartsock "fair enough"? You damn well should ALWAYS follow what the people who actually, you know designed and built the bike recommend!
Break in periods are not necessary with modern engines.
Does the flashing on the screen stop or change to 6k revs when you hit the next break in period? I just passed the manual specs 350km's and its still flashing and doesnt want me to go to 6. :/ confused..
Nope you have to change it manually I believe. I did at least. It’s pretty easy to find in the settings. Should also be in the manual 👍🏼
How fast can you go while keeping it at 4000 rpm and below? I am getting mine next week and wondering if riding at 70 on interstate will push rpm over 4000 rpm.
You'll be fine at 70 for sure. If I remember correctly I would take mine up to 6k rpm and that was like 85ish mph. You won't hurt it at all just cruising in the 4k-6k range
@@AndrewHartsock okay. I can take the country route but will be longer. Probably end up taken country route. Thank ya.
Hopefully you hit that 500 miles by now. There’s two ways to break a motor in. Your way and the balls to the walls way, balls to the walls is what I chose 😝. But do you man, it is a very enjoyable bike.
Well past 500 now!! 👍🏼
do you prefer the seating position over the 500r?
Yes for sure. Plus, I love the feel of the actual handlebars vs the v shape of clip-ons like the 500r
Drive it like you stole it.
🤘🏼😮💨