I have no reason to doubt your honestly about the difficulty, but just in case you or someone that needs this, sees this, you are absolutely valid playing at whatever difficulty you enjoy 👍
12:40 well, since you asked for a correction… Patrols spawn ever X seconds, they spawn ~200 m away from a player in the direction from a random outpost, so if you draw a line from you to each active outpost on the map, you will see a patrol appear 200m away from 1 player, marching toward that player. X is determined by mission difficulty, number of outposts destroyed past 50%, and primary objective completion. The biggest increase to patrols are primary objective, reducing X to 1/4, aka 4 times the patrols spawning in. This is already happeneing before you call in extraction. Now here is the fun part, if there are 0 bases left on the map, then pattols will always appear on the nearest edge of the map to the player they are targetting. Additionally, there is a 75 m “dead zone” around every player where patrols are not allowed to spawn so they do not appear on top of a player. If there are 0 outposts remaining and all players are within 75m of the edge or the map, or have their space to the edge of the map covered by another player’s dead zone, no patrols will appear. So, it you are extracting, look at the outposts. Set up your defenses in the direction of the remaining outposts, or towards the nearest edge of the map if no outposts remain, assuming extract is not close enough to the edge to activate “patrol bug” and stop patrols altogether.
Thank you kindly for the correction helldiver. I think knowing this will make extractions much easier since I can at least know where I should be looking for patrols.
I hope y'all enjoyed this match. I felt bad about publishin something below helldive, but since I had already sunk 15 hours into editing this thing before I noticed, and I still think it's a great match to demonstrate teamplay, figured I would rather show y'all this than delay publishing a new video. I hope y'all can see through this video, that primary weapons work best when you go into a mission with a plan on how you will use them. Even a "C" tier weapon like the punisher plasma can do crazy amounts of work in the right loadout. Edit: This build still works great on the updated balance patch. No changes are needed.
Works for me, I’m not a Helldive purist lol. With primary weapons, like all parts of a loadout, I think top consideration should go to the thought of “what do I need this to do?” For the plasma punisher, I like to run it with an AMR build because I’m most concerned about a squad of chainsaws running up on me and ruining my position and/or taking all my stun grenades. With an autocannon build, I prefer the DCS primary for handling bot troopers non-explosively, and sniping heads when the AC would take too many shots to handle the target. In both cases, I’m looking at filling the gaps my strat weapon leaves unfilled.
Im level 60 and I mainly play on Level 7 difficulty so all good. For me, it's the best sweet spot. Thanks for the vid. I'll definitely try this loadout. I usually run the punisher plasma with the Quasar Cannon.
@@Grey_fox12 Against bots, the laser cannon is amazing. I mainly run it with the shield generator. That way you can face the bots without getting staggered. So basically I run eagle airstrike, laser cannon, personal shield generator and then I have one slot left for whatever I usually run either railcannon strike or orbital laser. As for primary I mostly use the Jar-5 dominator. Against bugs I can *highly* recommend the gas strike, the cooldown is very low. Then I run a shotgun and Guard Dog Rover and Quasar along with stun grenades for the chargers and grenade pistol for bug holes. Once again, 4th strategem is up to your preference.
This is my second comment on one of your videos. Thank you. Thank you so much. I have been struggling with the bots from the very beginning. I didn't like fighting bots because I just couldn't figure out how not to get swarmed and die all the time. I'm now running grenade launcher, plasma punisher, and supply backpack, this has improved my survivability with bots 1000%. Not only that but I've been paying more attention to my cover and choke points. When I can find the right spot, man, this combo just flattens whole squads of bots effortlessly. Again, thank you SO MUCH!
I might need to shut some people up with another solo helldive at some point, but don't worry I'll be sticking to teamplay as the primary content on this channel. I love posting solo helldives, but I have WAY more fun recording these team games for y'all. Solo helldive feels more like work, plus I meet a lot of great people when I play with others. Heck, I added one of the people I played with in this game (S2).
Big big gratz on 1.3K subs (at the time of writing this). Regarding armor choices, dunno if you've watched Eravin's armor guide video but turns out that extra padding is worth more than explosive resistance vs automatons. Argument can be made that explosive resistance can be worth more if you're using Plasma Punisher in melee range or you have team-mates with friendly fire aim enabled. Regardless of this, I still run heavy medic because I like the headshot damage reduction and being able to sprint at full stamina for the most possible time. Good video, really liked the teamwork in this one, GG!
My personal new go to build against bots is as follows : => For armor, i run the heavy Grenadier armor, which is the only one with engineering kit => Scorcher as primary, grenade pistol as secondary, stun grenades as grenades => For stratagems, i use AMR, supply pack, orbital rail canon and eagle air strike Basically how it works is i can use the AMR as an AC like weapon, it does more damage on non armored targets, and about half the AC damage on armored ones. They both share the medium II armor penetration trait, which means devastators and walkers are a complete joke against any of them. The supply pack allows me to use the AMR a lot more, as i get ammo from it, but also ammo for my main and secondary as well as grenades and stims. This allows to kill every single ennemy on the bot side except for drop ships, unless i can't reach certain ones weak points (which includes towers and tanks mostly). That's why the Scorcher is important, as it allows a quick ending blow on those heavily armored targets from the side, thanks to its AoE blast. The supply pack also allows for way more survivability in areas covered by a stratagem disturber, which are almost garanteed at 7+ difficulty. And since i run heavy armor, i can get away with not using the shield back pack and not get overwhelmed as it's more about smart cover and flanks against bot, more so than running around (and away) like with bugs. And if a crowd of berserkers gets to close, i just go Eagle airstike + stun grenade and get away.
First time commenting, but I really enjoy your videos. Your topics are good, (teamwork makes the dream work!) but it's your attitude that I think I really appreciate. You have good insight into the game and how to work best with the situations HD2 gives us. I love squading up with friends, but I also dive with randos a lot too. Not all of them are great teammates, but most are trying their best. And as with any team, the players will do better when supported and encouraged. Appreciate you spreading some solid advice with a wholesome attitude. Really enjoy your content and looking forward to more!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who gets annoyed at the grenade exploit. I get killed a lot by them chunking grenades carelessly even if I've been in that spot for a good minute. Can't wait for it to be patched
I love to see a take on anchoring without the usual shield backpack or ballistic shield. Sure, both are handy and all, but neither is needed for the role of holding aggro and controlling crowds.
Someone introduced me to the tank build, it’s great for bots, heavy armour, ballistic shield and SMG, then grenade pistol and anti tank or the plasma rocket. It works great.
Meant to comment on another videonof tours about support loadouts. Man you are an awesome gamer, love your mindset. I cant wait to binge your content, youre such a positive/knowwdgeable player. Hope to see much more from you keep up the great work!
There’s a ton of Helldivers content out there, & maybe it’s just me finally finding a fellow good Ol’ Southern boy lol but you’re definitely my favorite creator out there, so keep it up brotha’‼️ Lovin’ the content 🤙🧐 For Democracy!
I don't care what difficulty your footage was at, as long as it's 7+, it's going to be relevant to my needs. What I liked the most about this build was the commentary. Not just what was happening, but why it was happening and what kinds of things you're looking for in teamplay need to reach a wide audience even more than loadout videos do. Thanks for doing Democracy's work, soldier.
This build looks very good. I don’t know why I never thought of using Plasma Punisher with the Laser Cannon. Precision Strike with Airstrikes is also what I would use on Helldive bots if possible because you can basically insta-kill a Factory Strider with both stratagems and also have something for destroying detector towers and research facilities. The one thing I don’t like as much about this build is that you’re highly reliant on stratagems to clear objectives since you have no handheld explosives, but then again Precision Strike should be able to alleviate this issue to some extent since it doesn’t use Eagle charges and has a fairly short cooldown.
My logic was that I didn't need the ability to destroy fabs with my weapons because I would mostly be around at least one team mate, but it's an easy fix to make it work against fabs as well. Just swap the senator for the grenade pistol. That's what I do in my solo runs and it still works great. Just be careful not to blow yourself up if one of those jetpack jerks jumps in close to you!
@@CommissarKai I like having handheld explosives because sometimes jammers have fabs next to them, having them means I can destroy jammers without necessarily having to reach the terminal to shut it down first, but then again making a build for yourself is a matter of making compromises so it's ultimately choosing what you value the most While we're at the topic of builds, you can try this one: - Engineering Kit armour - Scorcher - Senator - Stun Grenades - Grenade Launcher - Supply Pack - Orbital Precision Strike - Eagle Airstrikes Scorcher and Senator is for most enemies. Scorcher is also for gunships which can easily hover out of range of your GL. GL is for groups of fodder and mediums and supply pack to keep it fed. These 3 weapons cannot so easily take out the heavies which is what the other parts of the build are designed to do. Eagle Airstrikes need no lengthy introduction. These can kill basically anything on the bot front except for some objectives and gunships and you get 3 charges with a very reasonable cooldown time. Precision Strike is thus for most of those objectives that Airstrikes cannot damage or kill. You can even use it as a Hellbomb substitute for the Stratagem Jammer which makes things significantly easier. Since it is also an orbital, it can be used when Eagles are unavailable and can be called at the same time as Airstrikes to insta kill a Factory Strider. Alternatively, you can use it on light outposts and even some medium outposts without needing to worry about Eagle rearming.
I play as anchor too with this loadout: scorcher/Punisher, granade pistol, stun granade, heavyarmor-fortified, laser cannon, Eagle air strike, shield sentry (often use on allies), autocannon sentry (It's like +1 in the team)
I really like this loadout for a team match. Always a fan of seeing people use less popular strats, but you also found some synergy with it. Autocannon sentry with a shield sounds really strong!
main benefit of the lascannon is that there's no projectile-speed. main downside (other than the laser uptime) is that the thing resists being aimed and wobbles around a heck of a lot for a glorified laser pointer with one of the worst sight and muzzle-hider systems in history. i;'d much prefer a simple red-dot plus a flash hider/blind to reduce some of the obnoxiousness of using the damned thing. in the end i still prefer the AMR 95% of the time (just not when shooting at gunships)
Regardless of difficulty level, the advice you're giving is solid gold! The Punisher Plasma is frequently overlooked, but I like it quite a bit. I usually run the jar, DillyCS or the PP (depending on the team and how I want to play). I enjoy your content and I can't wait for you to break 1K!
About that explosion resistant armor, the bot rockets are majority bullet/impact damage and only about 15% explosive. Its much better to use that against spewers because their bile is 100% explosive from what I've been told
Really enjoy the teamplay and gameplay breakdown! Don't really care if its helldive or not since I've found the mid difficulties much harder with randos since there are fewer people who know what they are doing and i often drop into a shitshow of gunships and every pack on the map lol
Funny you mention that, since I test out my loadouts in 7's before I take them to 9's, and you are 100% right. It is much harder to play on 7's, mostly because people tend to panic. Makes for some great games and even some good friendships!
quassar/EATs/recoilless riffle are kinda over kill for bots, most bots only need level 4 penetration to destroy so those weapon with lv4 pen are better against bots(e.g auto cannon, laser cannon,AMRs,HMGs etc)
So, IMO. The Punisher plazma is GOAT on the bot front, I'm trying to like the Purifier with the better ammo economy but NOT being able to shoot over cover is a big negative. Get time on trigger and see how it's pretty amazing. TTK is higher than the Scorcher, CS or JAR but smaller bots and walkers are often a AOE one shot. It can kill hulks/tanks/turrets from behind. If you're under a bot drop, it can AOE the cargo. Vs the AT/AT, it's equivalent to a fistfull of wet pasta BUT you can keep the Devastators pinned under the factory and leave them in pile within a few hits. Laser and jump pack is meta IMO. But really, supply pack and AMR are ideal here. The PP is a WHORE for ammo and it's a scarce find on the ground T-7 and up so if you're going to sport a pack, may as well sling an AMR. ONE patrol wave in between POI and you can be out of ammo and useless, so the supply pack is key. The AMR also helps with PP ammo as a swap to it for heavier enemies makes a lot of sense.
I am reasonably certain that the purifier does NOT benefit from the medium penetration it's supposed to have, likely due to some spaghetti code. Once that gets fixed, It's gonna be a BEAST of a weapon. It's just doing less damage than it is supposed to.
Both PC and console can exploit that bug; it’s kinda fun if ur not bothering the other players since it opens some possibilities for load outs that u wont normally use
@@yunjinbai4640 Yeah but cheaters never win. I think playing the game as intended is more challenging and satisfying. Also it’s a capital offense for Helldivers to perform treasonous dishonorable acts like cheating.
The grenade exploit has actually been in since release, they say it has been fixed in one of the patches but it does not work, it now gives you 4 billion grenades now
@@CommissarKaiBy exploiting do you mean it’s a third party application? Because it isn’t. I hear people say it’s more of a bug than an exploit or a cheat because you can do it all with simply in-game stratagems. I don’t know, I hear the term ‘exploit’ in terms of some hacking application.
I've officially discovered that i have an "unfear" of tacpacks : I cannot not bring one. The whole time I was watching it felt weird somehow. Serious question though not too hard to play without a pack ? I won't know I always bring one ^^
Honestly its not too much of an issue. Yes shield is great, and will improve survivability but you get way more firepower without it. If a teammate has a backpack just ask if they can spare one. You do you though
I'd say it will depend a lot on how safe/competent you feel at the difficulty you're playing. I also brought a defensive backpack a lot in the beginning, but later, I got more used to the situations you find yourself in. Now, I rarely get myself into unnecessary trouble, and if I do, I rarely panic and try to retreat to a more defensive position, if possible. So I feel I don't really need a defensive stratagem anymore and I think I'm better off for it, having another offensive stratagem can be seriously clutch. But, I have 350h in the game, probably took me about 200h+ for me to feel safe enough to drop the shield all together against bots. But I'm a pretty average player, some true mad lads probably never used the shield and some probably are still rocking it after 500h in the game, not to say any of those scenarios mean much in relation to my skill, I'd say both are valid... what I think I'm trying to say is, play the game how you want, meta-build or not, most important thing is that you have fun. I kind of feel a bit sad for the people that take the game so seriously that they start kicking people that have the "wrong gear." But, if you show up rocking a Mortar, 380mm Barrage, Airburst Rocket Launcher AND Minefield, amongst randoms, you def deserves to get kicked. Because now you're having fun at others expense, which isn't fun at all. ;)
I have a simple formula for bots when it comes to defenses. If I want to use light armor, I bring a shield pack. For medium, I'll bring one with the fortified perk (50% resistance to explosions) or medic armor for the extra stim duration. Any heavy armor is going to work pretty well against the bots, you just have to get used to moving slower than you are used to. But since you're just moving from cover to cover anyway, the loss of speed isn't that bad.
after forcing myself to use the purifier lately the puni-plas looking like a damned minigun by comparison. you can ALMOST arcgun under-charge it but even then it's still woeful in the RoF for results rendered. Main benefit remains the total damage by ammo capacity but 50% of that's likely going to waste after something jumps in your face and you have nothing to protect yourself (stuns are limited, secondaries vary).
Are you former military because everything you say reminds me of when I was in the army and thinks I always heard on my upbringing up to leadership from good leaders. Things to the good examples. I became a great NCO. At least I like to think so lol.
I never served in the military. I am just a civvy that sometimes works with vets in my day job, and they are kind enough to indulge my stupid questions. I am flattered that a proper NCO approves of my leadership skills! I would love to play helldivers with some military folks, y'all are the best at teamwork in my experience o7
Not having Commissars on your side is great when retreating is actually the more tactically sound option. Too bad for the bots that they won't come to the same conclusion.
@@rdubayoo You see, Super Earth makes my job a lot easier. If anyone deserts, I don't have to deal with it. The orbital barrage will get them eventually!
Personally I dont care that much about the grenade exploit, I dont use it but I also dont think its game breaking or that it ruins the fun for anyone because grenades aren't that much stronger than a good support or even primary weapon
Damned, that exploit is still in the game? As much as I hate kernal level anticheat, I can't imagine how fucked the game experience would be if people started t-posing with a sniper aimed to the moon killing everything like the finger of god. Great video!
well you shoot it and it triggers its inner broken hellbomb script that waits 3 seconds making a noise and than globally explodes with a nuke effect which soon will be a stratagem
sadly this is great information to deaf ears.. most of us spend 30 minutes looking for a group that doesn't kick or host leaves or use the mythical thing call TEAMWORK. thern you have that one guy eating recourses like oreo cookies. i rather have a guy throwing 4 mil grenades and having a Dev(Alexus) continuing to nerf us over all from weapons to patrols lol. great vid i hope everyone watches and actually cares.
Sorry to hear you've had so many negative experiences. I've had a couple matches like that, and when they happen I just leave, find a high pop planet, and host my own game. I really hope that videos like mine can show people that using basic cooperation is both more fun and more effective. Best of luck in your future dives o7
I am using the same beat up corsair headset that I've used for years, so a new mic has quickly jumped to the top of my shopping list. Now that I've pasted 1k subs, I feel like the investment is worth it to bring y'all better quality content!
Bold to accuse someone of cheating for 7 grenades. Wear +2 grenade armor. Arm your last grenade, pick up supplies, you get 6 grenades, then holster the one in your hand. Easy 7 grenades.
There were times in this mission where he threw over 20 grenades at once, so I am absolutely certain he was using the exploit. I just cut them out so y'all didn't have to hear the annoying boom boom boom all throughout the video.
@@CommissarKai gotcha I was just operating off the "he threw 7 grenades" part. Had someone kick a friend from a game one time for "throwing 6 500s in 2 minutes" but we got a free one and we both had the extra one from the ship module upgrades, so it was 2 people throwing 3 each 🤷♂️
@@CostcoJomo Sounds like the diver that kicked your friend was a few shriekers short of a nest... Wish I could have been in that game, getting 4 500kgs in a mission sounds like my type of good time!
Your pretty funny like your content. Tone down the judgment. It’s arrow heads fault about the grenade glitch not the players. Especially in a game, where you enter the Konami code to throw a stratagem.
@@CommissarKai don't pay attention to kids and other naysayers, especially given the announcement you made talking about level 7 being a mistake, AND a game you dropped in on vs. started yourself. You've taught me a lot about tactics and loadouts in the game, and that's worth it at any difficulty.
I have no reason to doubt your honestly about the difficulty, but just in case you or someone that needs this, sees this, you are absolutely valid playing at whatever difficulty you enjoy 👍
Yes, however, weapons should be balanced around helldive difficulty, which is not the case right now. Hope they change that in the upcoming patch
Man I normally play 9 and sometimes I play 7 and I barely notice the difference
I’m level 150 and you can find me on diff 5-6 sometimes to play with fun builds and loadouts that just won’t work on higher difficulties
12:40 well, since you asked for a correction…
Patrols spawn ever X seconds, they spawn ~200 m away from a player in the direction from a random outpost, so if you draw a line from you to each active outpost on the map, you will see a patrol appear 200m away from 1 player, marching toward that player. X is determined by mission difficulty, number of outposts destroyed past 50%, and primary objective completion. The biggest increase to patrols are primary objective, reducing X to 1/4, aka 4 times the patrols spawning in. This is already happeneing before you call in extraction.
Now here is the fun part, if there are 0 bases left on the map, then pattols will always appear on the nearest edge of the map to the player they are targetting. Additionally, there is a 75 m “dead zone” around every player where patrols are not allowed to spawn so they do not appear on top of a player. If there are 0 outposts remaining and all players are within 75m of the edge or the map, or have their space to the edge of the map covered by another player’s dead zone, no patrols will appear.
So, it you are extracting, look at the outposts. Set up your defenses in the direction of the remaining outposts, or towards the nearest edge of the map if no outposts remain, assuming extract is not close enough to the edge to activate “patrol bug” and stop patrols altogether.
Thank you kindly for the correction helldiver. I think knowing this will make extractions much easier since I can at least know where I should be looking for patrols.
@@CommissarKai all good fellow helldiver, happy hunting o7
It is also possible to deny patrols from showing up on extract, is you and your team sets up a chain leading from the edge of the map to the extract.
Imma need a video of all these little game mechanics
I hope y'all enjoyed this match. I felt bad about publishin something below helldive, but since I had already sunk 15 hours into editing this thing before I noticed, and I still think it's a great match to demonstrate teamplay, figured I would rather show y'all this than delay publishing a new video. I hope y'all can see through this video, that primary weapons work best when you go into a mission with a plan on how you will use them. Even a "C" tier weapon like the punisher plasma can do crazy amounts of work in the right loadout.
Edit: This build still works great on the updated balance patch. No changes are needed.
Works for me, I’m not a Helldive purist lol.
With primary weapons, like all parts of a loadout, I think top consideration should go to the thought of “what do I need this to do?” For the plasma punisher, I like to run it with an AMR build because I’m most concerned about a squad of chainsaws running up on me and ruining my position and/or taking all my stun grenades.
With an autocannon build, I prefer the DCS primary for handling bot troopers non-explosively, and sniping heads when the AC would take too many shots to handle the target. In both cases, I’m looking at filling the gaps my strat weapon leaves unfilled.
Im level 60 and I mainly play on Level 7 difficulty so all good. For me, it's the best sweet spot. Thanks for the vid. I'll definitely try this loadout. I usually run the punisher plasma with the Quasar Cannon.
@@Grey_fox12 Against bots, the laser cannon is amazing. I mainly run it with the shield generator. That way you can face the bots without getting staggered.
So basically I run eagle airstrike, laser cannon, personal shield generator and then I have one slot left for whatever I usually run either railcannon strike or orbital laser.
As for primary I mostly use the Jar-5 dominator.
Against bugs I can *highly* recommend the gas strike, the cooldown is very low. Then I run a shotgun and Guard Dog Rover and Quasar along with stun grenades for the chargers and grenade pistol for bug holes. Once again, 4th strategem is up to your preference.
Plasma punisher easily A tier wym?
@@mcwolves71 Just a friendly reference to another youtuber that put it in C tier on his list :)
Came for loadout tips. Got a gaming philosophy. 10/10
Best thing about his content is being t-boned with positive gaming philosophy.
These videos are the best strategic breakdown of how to play available on RUclips.
Agreed. I also watch Tactical Enlightenment for Bannerlord.
Stoked for more team content, I love learning little things to be a better teammate
I've been running your laser cannon build on the regular. It's a nice change from always running the autocannon.
As a lvl 10 Diver who got the game a couple days ago, this team based tutorial on level 7 was incredible! Thank for this one!
This is my second comment on one of your videos. Thank you. Thank you so much. I have been struggling with the bots from the very beginning. I didn't like fighting bots because I just couldn't figure out how not to get swarmed and die all the time. I'm now running grenade launcher, plasma punisher, and supply backpack, this has improved my survivability with bots 1000%. Not only that but I've been paying more attention to my cover and choke points. When I can find the right spot, man, this combo just flattens whole squads of bots effortlessly. Again, thank you SO MUCH!
This channel is extremely underrated, keep up the good work. I love the positivity!
I subscribed more for the commentary than the videos. Helps me a lot while I'm at work coding away. Great job. Love the content.
Just subscribed. I like the team play videos a lot please keep them coming. The way you narrate is really helpful
I might need to shut some people up with another solo helldive at some point, but don't worry I'll be sticking to teamplay as the primary content on this channel. I love posting solo helldives, but I have WAY more fun recording these team games for y'all. Solo helldive feels more like work, plus I meet a lot of great people when I play with others.
Heck, I added one of the people I played with in this game (S2).
Big big gratz on 1.3K subs (at the time of writing this). Regarding armor choices, dunno if you've watched Eravin's armor guide video but turns out that extra padding is worth more than explosive resistance vs automatons. Argument can be made that explosive resistance can be worth more if you're using Plasma Punisher in melee range or you have team-mates with friendly fire aim enabled.
Regardless of this, I still run heavy medic because I like the headshot damage reduction and being able to sprint at full stamina for the most possible time.
Good video, really liked the teamwork in this one, GG!
My personal new go to build against bots is as follows :
=> For armor, i run the heavy Grenadier armor, which is the only one with engineering kit
=> Scorcher as primary, grenade pistol as secondary, stun grenades as grenades
=> For stratagems, i use AMR, supply pack, orbital rail canon and eagle air strike
Basically how it works is i can use the AMR as an AC like weapon, it does more damage on non armored targets, and about half the AC damage on armored ones. They both share the medium II armor penetration trait, which means devastators and walkers are a complete joke against any of them. The supply pack allows me to use the AMR a lot more, as i get ammo from it, but also ammo for my main and secondary as well as grenades and stims. This allows to kill every single ennemy on the bot side except for drop ships, unless i can't reach certain ones weak points (which includes towers and tanks mostly). That's why the Scorcher is important, as it allows a quick ending blow on those heavily armored targets from the side, thanks to its AoE blast. The supply pack also allows for way more survivability in areas covered by a stratagem disturber, which are almost garanteed at 7+ difficulty. And since i run heavy armor, i can get away with not using the shield back pack and not get overwhelmed as it's more about smart cover and flanks against bot, more so than running around (and away) like with bugs. And if a crowd of berserkers gets to close, i just go Eagle airstike + stun grenade and get away.
This is exactly my philosophy for this game and I've never had a kick and never had a bad experience. Level 127 so far, bots and bugs player
3:38 lol, the devastators went into another plane of existence
First time commenting, but I really enjoy your videos. Your topics are good, (teamwork makes the dream work!) but it's your attitude that I think I really appreciate.
You have good insight into the game and how to work best with the situations HD2 gives us. I love squading up with friends, but I also dive with randos a lot too. Not all of them are great teammates, but most are trying their best. And as with any team, the players will do better when supported and encouraged.
Appreciate you spreading some solid advice with a wholesome attitude. Really enjoy your content and looking forward to more!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who gets annoyed at the grenade exploit.
I get killed a lot by them chunking grenades carelessly even if I've been in that spot for a good minute.
Can't wait for it to be patched
I love to see a take on anchoring without the usual shield backpack or ballistic shield. Sure, both are handy and all, but neither is needed for the role of holding aggro and controlling crowds.
Someone introduced me to the tank build, it’s great for bots, heavy armour, ballistic shield and SMG, then grenade pistol and anti tank or the plasma rocket. It works great.
Loving your videos my guy. You know your stuff
Meant to comment on another videonof tours about support loadouts. Man you are an awesome gamer, love your mindset. I cant wait to binge your content, youre such a positive/knowwdgeable player. Hope to see much more from you keep up the great work!
Love the gameplay and commentary! Really well done!
There’s a ton of Helldivers content out there, & maybe it’s just me finally finding a fellow good Ol’ Southern boy lol but you’re definitely my favorite creator out there, so keep it up brotha’‼️
Lovin’ the content 🤙🧐 For Democracy!
I don't care what difficulty your footage was at, as long as it's 7+, it's going to be relevant to my needs. What I liked the most about this build was the commentary. Not just what was happening, but why it was happening and what kinds of things you're looking for in teamplay need to reach a wide audience even more than loadout videos do. Thanks for doing Democracy's work, soldier.
This build looks very good. I don’t know why I never thought of using Plasma Punisher with the Laser Cannon. Precision Strike with Airstrikes is also what I would use on Helldive bots if possible because you can basically insta-kill a Factory Strider with both stratagems and also have something for destroying detector towers and research facilities.
The one thing I don’t like as much about this build is that you’re highly reliant on stratagems to clear objectives since you have no handheld explosives, but then again Precision Strike should be able to alleviate this issue to some extent since it doesn’t use Eagle charges and has a fairly short cooldown.
My logic was that I didn't need the ability to destroy fabs with my weapons because I would mostly be around at least one team mate, but it's an easy fix to make it work against fabs as well.
Just swap the senator for the grenade pistol. That's what I do in my solo runs and it still works great. Just be careful not to blow yourself up if one of those jetpack jerks jumps in close to you!
@@CommissarKai
I like having handheld explosives because sometimes jammers have fabs next to them, having them means I can destroy jammers without necessarily having to reach the terminal to shut it down first, but then again making a build for yourself is a matter of making compromises so it's ultimately choosing what you value the most
While we're at the topic of builds, you can try this one:
- Engineering Kit armour
- Scorcher
- Senator
- Stun Grenades
- Grenade Launcher
- Supply Pack
- Orbital Precision Strike
- Eagle Airstrikes
Scorcher and Senator is for most enemies. Scorcher is also for gunships which can easily hover out of range of your GL. GL is for groups of fodder and mediums and supply pack to keep it fed. These 3 weapons cannot so easily take out the heavies which is what the other parts of the build are designed to do.
Eagle Airstrikes need no lengthy introduction. These can kill basically anything on the bot front except for some objectives and gunships and you get 3 charges with a very reasonable cooldown time. Precision Strike is thus for most of those objectives that Airstrikes cannot damage or kill. You can even use it as a Hellbomb substitute for the Stratagem Jammer which makes things significantly easier. Since it is also an orbital, it can be used when Eagles are unavailable and can be called at the same time as Airstrikes to insta kill a Factory Strider. Alternatively, you can use it on light outposts and even some medium outposts without needing to worry about Eagle rearming.
Keep it up! I love getting tips from your videos.
I love the laser cannon!
Combined with stun grenades, there isn't much it won't take out.
I'm usually running a shield as well, but it's awesome. Unless you're getting surrounded by sniping rocket bastards.
I play as anchor too with this loadout: scorcher/Punisher, granade pistol, stun granade, heavyarmor-fortified, laser cannon, Eagle air strike, shield sentry (often use on allies), autocannon sentry (It's like +1 in the team)
I really like this loadout for a team match. Always a fan of seeing people use less popular strats, but you also found some synergy with it. Autocannon sentry with a shield sounds really strong!
This is my load out pretty much but I use shield gen pack. So glad someone else had the same idea because it shreds up those silly trashcans.
main benefit of the lascannon is that there's no projectile-speed.
main downside (other than the laser uptime) is that the thing resists being aimed and wobbles around a heck of a lot for a glorified laser pointer with one of the worst sight and muzzle-hider systems in history.
i;'d much prefer a simple red-dot plus a flash hider/blind to reduce some of the obnoxiousness of using the damned thing.
in the end i still prefer the AMR 95% of the time (just not when shooting at gunships)
Regardless of difficulty level, the advice you're giving is solid gold! The Punisher Plasma is frequently overlooked, but I like it quite a bit. I usually run the jar, DillyCS or the PP (depending on the team and how I want to play). I enjoy your content and I can't wait for you to break 1K!
About that explosion resistant armor, the bot rockets are majority bullet/impact damage and only about 15% explosive. Its much better to use that against spewers because their bile is 100% explosive from what I've been told
Really enjoy the teamplay and gameplay breakdown! Don't really care if its helldive or not since I've found the mid difficulties much harder with randos since there are fewer people who know what they are doing and i often drop into a shitshow of gunships and every pack on the map lol
Funny you mention that, since I test out my loadouts in 7's before I take them to 9's, and you are 100% right. It is much harder to play on 7's, mostly because people tend to panic. Makes for some great games and even some good friendships!
Bro it’s crazy AF to me that we have the exact same kind of play style…! I’m from Texas so it might be a southern kinda thang..🤷🏽♂️😉💪🏾🫡
*Salutes in Democracy* Great video and insights into effective team strategies and tactics.
I didn’t know the laser cannon was so capable against the bots. Might have to finally let go of my quasar for it and try it out
quassar/EATs/recoilless riffle are kinda over kill for bots, most bots only need level 4 penetration to destroy so those weapon with lv4 pen are better against bots(e.g auto cannon, laser cannon,AMRs,HMGs etc)
Awesome video, subscribed
I like your style
So, IMO. The Punisher plazma is GOAT on the bot front, I'm trying to like the Purifier with the better ammo economy but NOT being able to shoot over cover is a big negative. Get time on trigger and see how it's pretty amazing.
TTK is higher than the Scorcher, CS or JAR but smaller bots and walkers are often a AOE one shot. It can kill hulks/tanks/turrets from behind. If you're under a bot drop, it can AOE the cargo. Vs the AT/AT, it's equivalent to a fistfull of wet pasta BUT you can keep the Devastators pinned under the factory and leave them in pile within a few hits.
Laser and jump pack is meta IMO. But really, supply pack and AMR are ideal here. The PP is a WHORE for ammo and it's a scarce find on the ground T-7 and up so if you're going to sport a pack, may as well sling an AMR. ONE patrol wave in between POI and you can be out of ammo and useless, so the supply pack is key.
The AMR also helps with PP ammo as a swap to it for heavier enemies makes a lot of sense.
I am reasonably certain that the purifier does NOT benefit from the medium penetration it's supposed to have, likely due to some spaghetti code. Once that gets fixed, It's gonna be a BEAST of a weapon. It's just doing less damage than it is supposed to.
I seen someone throw like 20 grenades in a row a couple days ago. I was like dude I want a suit like that lol. I figured it was a PC player.
Yeah It's an exploit that is sadly very easy to do. I won't say more than that because I don't want to encourage treasonous behavior.
Both PC and console can exploit that bug; it’s kinda fun if ur not bothering the other players since it opens some possibilities for load outs that u wont normally use
@@yunjinbai4640 Yeah but cheaters never win. I think playing the game as intended is more challenging and satisfying. Also it’s a capital offense for Helldivers to perform treasonous dishonorable acts like cheating.
The grenade exploit has actually been in since release, they say it has been fixed in one of the patches but it does not work, it now gives you 4 billion grenades now
@@CommissarKaiBy exploiting do you mean it’s a third party application? Because it isn’t. I hear people say it’s more of a bug than an exploit or a cheat because you can do it all with simply in-game stratagems. I don’t know, I hear the term ‘exploit’ in terms of some hacking application.
Outstanding content! I hope I get to spill oil or squash bugs with you sometime.
shoot the legs or arms of hulks with the laser Cannon, 4-5s of burn
Great tip if you've run out of stun grenades(or don't have any), taking out both legs even kills it.
Friendship door huh? We call them homie holes round these parts.
huh…fascinatin.
we call em two fisted pleasure caves o’er here
I've officially discovered that i have an "unfear" of tacpacks : I cannot not bring one. The whole time I was watching it felt weird somehow. Serious question though not too hard to play without a pack ? I won't know I always bring one ^^
Honestly its not too much of an issue. Yes shield is great, and will improve survivability but you get way more firepower without it. If a teammate has a backpack just ask if they can spare one. You do you though
I'd say it will depend a lot on how safe/competent you feel at the difficulty you're playing. I also brought a defensive backpack a lot in the beginning, but later, I got more used to the situations you find yourself in. Now, I rarely get myself into unnecessary trouble, and if I do, I rarely panic and try to retreat to a more defensive position, if possible. So I feel I don't really need a defensive stratagem anymore and I think I'm better off for it, having another offensive stratagem can be seriously clutch.
But, I have 350h in the game, probably took me about 200h+ for me to feel safe enough to drop the shield all together against bots. But I'm a pretty average player, some true mad lads probably never used the shield and some probably are still rocking it after 500h in the game, not to say any of those scenarios mean much in relation to my skill, I'd say both are valid... what I think I'm trying to say is, play the game how you want, meta-build or not, most important thing is that you have fun. I kind of feel a bit sad for the people that take the game so seriously that they start kicking people that have the "wrong gear."
But, if you show up rocking a Mortar, 380mm Barrage, Airburst Rocket Launcher AND Minefield, amongst randoms, you def deserves to get kicked. Because now you're having fun at others expense, which isn't fun at all. ;)
I have a simple formula for bots when it comes to defenses. If I want to use light armor, I bring a shield pack. For medium, I'll bring one with the fortified perk (50% resistance to explosions) or medic armor for the extra stim duration. Any heavy armor is going to work pretty well against the bots, you just have to get used to moving slower than you are used to. But since you're just moving from cover to cover anyway, the loss of speed isn't that bad.
after forcing myself to use the purifier lately the puni-plas looking like a damned minigun by comparison.
you can ALMOST arcgun under-charge it but even then it's still woeful in the RoF for results rendered. Main benefit remains the total damage by ammo capacity but 50% of that's likely going to waste after something jumps in your face and you have nothing to protect yourself (stuns are limited, secondaries vary).
See thats the kind of teamwork i like to see, im sick of everone running solo and leaving enemies behind for someone else to deal with.
Are you former military because everything you say reminds me of when I was in the army and thinks I always heard on my upbringing up to leadership from good leaders. Things to the good examples. I became a great NCO. At least I like to think so lol.
I never served in the military. I am just a civvy that sometimes works with vets in my day job, and they are kind enough to indulge my stupid questions. I am flattered that a proper NCO approves of my leadership skills! I would love to play helldivers with some military folks, y'all are the best at teamwork in my experience o7
@@CommissarKai awesome! Yeah just the way you speak. It reminds me of great leaders I had that shaped me somewhat good enough leader lol
Leave it to a Southern Gentleman to teach us all how to be a +1 and not a -1 on a mission. o7
Not having Commissars on your side is great when retreating is actually the more tactically sound option. Too bad for the bots that they won't come to the same conclusion.
Hey now, I let my team retreat after the last primary!
@@CommissarKai Oh, damn, I should have realized that was your user name. Still, you gotta admit, that's not typical Commissar behavior!
@@rdubayoo You see, Super Earth makes my job a lot easier. If anyone deserts, I don't have to deal with it. The orbital barrage will get them eventually!
First time seeing your channel. Loved the video and would love to learn how to be a better teammate. Didnt see if you listed your loadout somewhere?
It's at 1:40 in this video. Usually I talk more about loadouts, but I wanted to focus on teamplay here, so I only flashed it up on screen briefly.
Personally I dont care that much about the grenade exploit, I dont use it but I also dont think its game breaking or that it ruins the fun for anyone because grenades aren't that much stronger than a good support or even primary weapon
By mistake 🤣 bro I’ll still watch if you do these on extreme
Damned, that exploit is still in the game? As much as I hate kernal level anticheat, I can't imagine how fucked the game experience would be if people started t-posing with a sniper aimed to the moon killing everything like the finger of god. Great video!
lol imagine having to do cheats on lv7
I was gonna say that. 😂
Exploiting is different than cheating.
i used it on meridia with stun on the dark shit mission where it has proven half effective
dangerously based pfp
Wait did I hear that right? You can shoot the hell bomb and it explodes?
Not just any Hell bomb bucko, just the old defective ones. Our fresh Hell bombs do NOT come pre-armed. For safety.
If it’s a damaged hellbomb yea, I don’t know about an active fully functioning one though.
@@omarmejia7609 regular hellbombs just deactivate when you shoot them. randome POI hellbombs explode
well you shoot it and it triggers its inner broken hellbomb script that waits 3 seconds making a noise and than globally explodes with a nuke effect which soon will be a stratagem
How do you ping things on PS5?
sadly this is great information to deaf ears.. most of us spend 30 minutes looking for a group that doesn't kick or host leaves or use the mythical thing call TEAMWORK. thern you have that one guy eating recourses like oreo cookies. i rather have a guy throwing 4 mil grenades and having a Dev(Alexus) continuing to nerf us over all from weapons to patrols lol. great vid i hope everyone watches and actually cares.
Sorry to hear you've had so many negative experiences. I've had a couple matches like that, and when they happen I just leave, find a high pop planet, and host my own game.
I really hope that videos like mine can show people that using basic cooperation is both more fun and more effective. Best of luck in your future dives o7
Is it cheating tho?
Hatin on the nad glitch is a bit much, you can h@ve “skill” and have fun with the nad exploit not like they care or they would of taken it out…
It's on the chopping block in the next patch, and obviously an exploit. Why you you defend using it?
by the way, after using the grenade glitch you are chronically in debt
so i would recommend using it with only impact nades on missions like defence where its rng based
He probably had grenade pistol
It would be awesome if you got a better mic
I am using the same beat up corsair headset that I've used for years, so a new mic has quickly jumped to the top of my shopping list. Now that I've pasted 1k subs, I feel like the investment is worth it to bring y'all better quality content!
I'm proficient at difficulty 4 level 31 I'll take all available advice. I only play with randoms.
get to about level 7 as soon as you can, you'll find it actually easier due to less swarming, and generally better teammates. And use cover.
how the hell do u get 7 grenades?
It's an exploit, but I'd really rather not say more than that.
@@CommissarKai oh ok. well an exploit isnt as bad as hackers tho i guess
Bold to accuse someone of cheating for 7 grenades. Wear +2 grenade armor. Arm your last grenade, pick up supplies, you get 6 grenades, then holster the one in your hand. Easy 7 grenades.
There were times in this mission where he threw over 20 grenades at once, so I am absolutely certain he was using the exploit. I just cut them out so y'all didn't have to hear the annoying boom boom boom all throughout the video.
@@CommissarKai gotcha I was just operating off the "he threw 7 grenades" part. Had someone kick a friend from a game one time for "throwing 6 500s in 2 minutes" but we got a free one and we both had the extra one from the ship module upgrades, so it was 2 people throwing 3 each 🤷♂️
@@CostcoJomo Sounds like the diver that kicked your friend was a few shriekers short of a nest...
Wish I could have been in that game, getting 4 500kgs in a mission sounds like my type of good time!
Your pretty funny like your content. Tone down the judgment. It’s arrow heads fault about the grenade glitch not the players. Especially in a game, where you enter the Konami code to throw a stratagem.
He's on difficulty 7 talking about iv got skill is hilarious 😅😂
You must be new around here.
@@CommissarKai don't pay attention to kids and other naysayers, especially given the announcement you made talking about level 7 being a mistake, AND a game you dropped in on vs. started yourself. You've taught me a lot about tactics and loadouts in the game, and that's worth it at any difficulty.