@@sarimsalman2698 Its just too expensive to enter other power tool platforms. I find Makita power tools more ergonomic as well. Unlike Milwaukee tools.
@@sarimsalman2698 Exaaaaaactly! The majority of my tools are Makita but I do own several from milwaukee, festool, ryobi, dewalt and others. Hell, I'd even go for some of those VERY cheap made tools from Harbor Freights if it gets the job done good enough.
Total BS that they won’t sell you parts on these guns. You should replace the seals when recharging the cylinder too. They probably cost $1. But they won’t sell them…. No different from a mountain bike air shock. PSI on an air shock is actually higher I think. I bought a dewalt instead for this reason.
always make sure the driver piston is fully extended(meaning like where it would be when shooting a nail and not going back in) before refilling metabo hpt has a maintenance mode i believe milwaukee does too or you can just make sure you install it like that when putting it back together but if you dont you will be charging a smaller portion to the "correct"psi and then when u shoot a nail the chamber opens up and your pressure is not really where you thought also if your gun is fully charged and you take it apart be very careful moving anything around because if that motor slips it will go off and you can get seriously hurt
I was told that pressing the power button 5 times and then depress the safety only and fire it so the pin fully extends. I tried it on my 18 g and it didn’t work lol.
Knocking on wood but my gen1 15gauge is 3 years old ,milwaukee, still shoots great,dewalt has that flywheel, pasloade fan sound,don't like it,but metabos recharging adapter and maintenance mode is nice! Hagd!
Thanks for showing us how it’s done. Another reason to buy the Metabo HPT nail gun. Don’t get me wrong, I’m fully (over?)invested in MKE tools, but I still research many major tool purchases. As for proprietary battery platforms…I still buy a fair bit of corded / compressor-powered tools.
I have the Milwaukee 23 gauge pin nailer, 18 gauge, and 15 gauge angle nailer. I love the mobility and ease of use of all these, but the pinner just starting acting up, not setting the nails all the way leaving about a 1/32" sticking out. Even with the smallest nail sets they leave too large a hole. Might as well use the 18 gauge. So, thank you for sharing this excellent video with us and I will be recharging my pinner very soon. You may have just saved me hundreds of dollars!
@@Doyle047 The Milwaukee gun is "supposed" to be charged with nitrogen. Just like when the dealership puts it in your tires and tells you you have to come to them to get your tires filled, I feel like it actually doesn't really matter if you just use normal air.
As a timberframer, I top up my tank about every 18 months and I normally do 170 psi so it could sink 90mm ringshank into C24 timber. If you do too much pressure, it'll stall the motor, stop working
Milwaukee uses nitrogen in nail guns preventing DIY repairs , so they claim , so little these have compressed air/nitrogen inside dont think it matters . Hitachi/Hikoki/Meiabo HPT uses compressed air , with filler point easy access, you dont need to open whole tool.
I feel like you could use a 90* elbow and drill a hole into the side of the casing to add a shrader valve so you dont need to take it apart everytime. Also, the thing I've noticed with those shock pumps being a mountain biker, because they screw on and it's such high PSI you always lose a good bit of pressure when pulling it off. When I do my shocks I always aim higher then what I want and when I pull it off it's closer to the actual Pressure.
There is a simpler way, turn the bell 90° and drill a 15mm hole in the gun shell, opposite the inscriptions, to put the valve on the outside. This way it is possible to repressurize at any time without disassembling the housing.
Good video, great tip. One very small thing to note, I'm very sure its originally filled with Nitrogen. The molecules are larger, so leakage/seepage happens slower. Looks like regular air works, though, so, small detail
Yup the metabo hpt/Hitachi ones used to use nitrogen too but they stopped using it and just swapped for regular air with no problems, maybe a litttttle extra seepage but if the gun is serviceable it doesn't matter at all.
@ds29912 approx 78. When you buy Hydrogen Peroxide at Walgreens, it's only 3%, if you buy vinegar to cook with, it's only 5%, but 6% or stronger for cleaning. So, there's definitely a difference between 78% and 99%.
Thanks bro for your help ,I had 2 milwaukee 18 guage brad nailers and bought a third one but after this video I tried to fix them and it worked, you're a life saver, 👍
for lube use white lithium grease, get the metabo/hitachi you can get the proper refill tool and buy all the maintenance parts. you don't have to send it back to the factory. The metabo recharge tool doesn't fit (it has different threads)
That's why I like the Metabo/Hitatchi guns with the access port and that are user refillable (and you can also add more psi easily to make it as powerful as you want). Also interested to see if the lifetime warranty on the new Flex ones includes recharging.
the flex also has four screws on the back plate and you can get right to a fillport there similar to how metabo hpt works even has a sticker to tell you the psi makes it very easy
Milwaukee really messed up with this tool, now imagine how many nailers will end up in the bin because it would not be worth sending them back for service. Planned obsolesce.
There is a youtube channel named Dean Doherty focusing on tool repairs, he regularly says that quality vise, Milwaukee is a DIY tool at best, since they break too fast and in order to fix them he needs cannot just replace one specific part, but usually an entire assembly of them. I see plenty of people being happy with the brand, but there probably is a disparity between comfort of use/performance and durability.
My 2744-20 framing gun failed me yesterday! I have literally only fired roughly 1500 nails through it. When I pulled the trigger, it made a grinding sound and only sank the 3 1/4" framing nail roughly 1/2". To top it off, Milwaukee wants $268 to fix it being the warranty has been out about 6 months!!! I can buy a new one (tool only) on sale for $329. Hoping to figure out how to repair this one......
I’ve had my framer hitachi for 5 years now and never done the re-gas 🤷🏻♂️ though does get a full clean and pneumatic air tool oil every year ish. your compressor oil looked very thick though. stuff I use is quite thin, takes a few days for the nail gun after the service to not send nails 10-15mm deep into the timber.
Seeing that it's an o-ring on the piston head, it would likely use silicone grease - or the same grease used on pneumatic nailer rebuild kits. Should also mention that the original fill is nitrogen. Nitrogen molecules are bigger so are less likely to leak or leak more slowly, so if you fill with regular air will have to refill sooner. An option is if you get a nitrogen cylinder refill kit or maybe a tire shop that does nitrogen refills - though I don't know if they can or would be willing to refill with that much pressure not knowing the integrity of the cylinder.
That's the same BS excuse used for filling tires, the difference in leakage is negligible. The real reason a nitrogen fill would have been used is because it will have been dry, and it's an inert gas. This both prevents corrosion and eliminates the possibility of dieseling the cylinder lubricant.
@@ferrumignis Paslode gas chamber gets affected for normal air and it has zero harmful effects for it so why would Milwaukee chamber get defect when it's even closed chamber doesn't affect so much humidity changes etc.
@@ferrumignis I don't fill my tires with nitrogen for that exact reason. A tire is not a sealed metal cylinder designed to constantly pressurize at high instantaneous psi. Feel free to refill your cylinder more frequently.
Don't complain about security screws- anyone that is knowledgeable enough to work on tools, equipment, etc will have these bits as they're not exotic (and even come as part of larger bit kits these days). They're used to keep kids and people who have no idea what they're doing from messing around and damaging the tool (or themselves). They also provide legal protection. If all you own is a flat and phillips head screwdriver you're not doing this kind of stuff anyway and likely aren't very handy.
Just make sure when you pressurise the tank that the firing pin is all the way forward as if you've just fired a nail. If the pin is all the way back ready to fire & you fill the tank you're only filling the part behind the plunger & you won't have the required pressure. Also before working on these make sure to purge the air & make sure firing pin is all the way forward to make sure gun is safe to work on. Also 210 psi sounds way too high to me. The metabo/ hikoki Framing nailer only needs 72.5 psi with the special air regulator used to refill them
I just sent 2 nail guns in last week and got them back in less than a week, it was free and they pay for shipping as long as they are less than 5 yrs old, I had no receipts
@@ItllProbablyWorkyou could probably still have gotten it done for free if the serial number shows less than 5 years from date of manufacturing. If the serial comes back less than 5 years it's free. I believe they even warn you this will happen in the manual and tell you that you'll have to send it in to get recharged for free once in a while.
The Hitachi accessories isn't meant to be sold to the consumer just dealers and repair agents. Also the Milwaukee service portal recommends 125 PSI of nitrogen.
They added that feature on the Ryobi and Ridgid framing nailer where you can pressurize it. I guess they finally got tired of fixing it with the Milwaukee, so expect a gen 2.
@@ItllProbablyWork I kinda want to just sell my Milwaukee and stick with my Hikoki. I have everything which includes the long magazine, but Hikoki also released their long magazine just a month ago.
Any chance you can give an update on how its lasted? I'm about ready to do this fix myself. Should I use a different lubricant for the inside? It almost seems like the original lube was a thick tacky grease rather than air compressor lubricant.
@@ItllProbablyWork Yeah, woulda been handy if they’d have designed these to be easily user serviceable, but then some knucklehead would probably not follow instructions, injure themselves, and get a lawyer.
In Norway refilling a milwaukee nailer is about 250 bucks. Hikoki will do it for free. I do however have an adapter to fill it myself. The problem with milwaukee is that it uses nitrogen (?)
You think its crazy but if you loosen the allen wrench locking pin you can turn the cylinder refill nozzle up then drill a hole through case. NEVER HAVE TO OPEN IT TO RECHARGE IT AGAIN
The screw was by the threads for the cylinder housing and the schraeder valve was going down into handle. I turned it to face out the riggt side of gun. So i got a dewalt cordless tire inflator and it goes up to 160 psi to refill the cylinder
That fitting didn’t work at all for me? There’s nothing in the adapter to engage pin in the Schrader valve deep in the recess. The Makita tool has that. I’m curious how you magically made the adapter work?
Hahaha 300 bucks I spent over 600 bucks with the extend mag for the damn thing the first day they came out with them an I loved the huge crest wrench u used that was epic lol
It would be cool if you drilled a hole in the side of the body and used an extension hose or something so that the refill valve is accessible without dismantling the nail gun.
I thought they filled it with nitrogen? Wonder if that makes any difference. I guess air is mostly nitrogen anyways, but I wouldn't want the oxygen playing havoc with anything. What with that oxidation business.
Yes they do use nitrogen to keep the cylinder from rusting. Putting just air in will make that tool useless in no time. I just bought this nailer and am going to take it to a tire shop and get them to put nitrogen in when it needs it
You could take apart the new one and check its pressure- just before educational purposes to once and for all tell the internet the OEM pressure Milwaukee sets it at
I just got one apart, waiting on the special end to refill the tank. The tank itself says 102 PSI, just wondering if anyone else has fixed one and how much you put in. I saw another video where the guy put like 160-180
I think they use those screws so people don’t accidentally kill themselves. I’ve worked trades for awhile and I think half my peers could do this safely but the other half…
Torx is already pretty much standard for most power tools for mechanical reasons, that's the main part, but it could be partially for liability too. If they make it reasonably difficult for the average joe to open up they can claim you went out of your way to open it and should have known what you were doing, in the event that you hurt yourself.
Milwaukee uses nitrogen not air so that may be one of the reasons they don’t want you filling the cylinder. I honestly don’t know if it makes a difference they say it does.
@@evictioncarpentry2628 are you trying to say that putting air in is the same as putting straight nitrogen in because it’s not bud. Air condensates easier than nitrogen. Which I’m assuming may be one of the reasons for the nitrogen
@@steffendetrick OK, here's some facts. Every nail gun on the market right now uses the same technology. They all license Sencos patent. There are easily half a dozen other guns on the market now and a few of those are user rechargeable with compressed air. Are all those other companies wrong? (Two of the them are the same parent company TTI as Milwaukee) I don't see anyone having an issue with them. There is no difference in this case of pure nitrogen or atmospheric compressed air.
@@evictioncarpentry2628 Im well aware that it’s a senco patent . what does that have to do with anything? Just because a company license a patent from another that doesn’t mean that the technology in all of those brands that licensed it are going to be the same. Each company is going to implement their own design type that technology. I clearly said I’m not sure why they use nitrogen but it does not condensate as easily as air does. Milwaukee probably has there reasons for using nitrogen. your rant accomplished nothing.🤦♂️ you’re not telling anybody anything new and you’re not addressing anything that I said. I guess that was supposed to be a flex.😂 like I said, there is definitely a difference between pure nitrogen and compressed or “ atmospheric air”. One condensates easier -air, which is also why you have to drain your compressor.
planned obsolescence can be reasonable if fixing the problem is engineered in. this however is engineered not only to fail, but to not be serviceable, that should be criminal
Bro i did excatly what you did with a mountain bike pump , mine goes up to 150 psi and it was enough . Now the fraimer is like brand new but i forget to put oil in the cylinder i don't know if its a worry or not for the sustainability
If you didn't clean the grease off the cylinder and bolt you're probably okay. Cleaning and relubricating is mainly important to keeping your seals better for longer
I had an issue like this. Bought the valve adapter and tried to add pressure, seemed like it took air but i cannot get it to fire a nail in more then half way of a 3" nail. Daum you Milwaukee!!
You might need to put in more pressure, as the video mentioned I ended up putting a lot more than I expected I would need to. You might also check your seals
@@stabila9706 You can adjust limit on compressor pressure switch temporary to increase the upper limit BUT it would also depend on compressor and I wouldn't go above 160PSI, some compressors are set up for 155PSI from the factory too.
That BST Schrader valve doesn't work for the 30 degree Milwaukee nail framer. The Schrader port is too long and the BST Schrader valve is too short ..Has anyone tried the Hitachi reduction valve???Please let me know, Thanks in advance.
So it uses nitrogen rather than normal air, so that'll be a little different. But the other issue is the way the valve system works it's pretty difficult to actually check the pressure already in the cylinder
AEG/RIDGID is the Best. compressed air to 125 PSI. You dont have to take the gun apart to refill the air it already has a Allen Key nut to with an access panel and you hook up the air hose.. I though Milwaukee ran on Nitrogen
Also go -0.87psi (~-1bar) vacuum with a security pin holding the striker before filling. You want the striker to be all the way out before fillin/vacuum
First Milwaukee RUclipsr thats not annoying. This is coming from a Makita guy.
What are you asking for your upcoming 13th birthday?
@@TJCarpentryServicesfound the annoying Milwaukee guy 😂
It's so funny seeing people arguing over tool brand affiliations. Why not just get the best one that is the cheapest?
@@sarimsalman2698 Its just too expensive to enter other power tool platforms. I find Makita power tools more ergonomic as well. Unlike Milwaukee tools.
@@sarimsalman2698 Exaaaaaactly! The majority of my tools are Makita but I do own several from milwaukee, festool, ryobi, dewalt and others. Hell, I'd even go for some of those VERY cheap made tools from Harbor Freights if it gets the job done good enough.
This was a really well-made video. In fact, I would even say you...nailed it.
niiiice lol
Love it when you find ways to unscam a scam. Keep up the awesome videos.
Finding ways to repair things is always a win, thanks!
Not rellay a scam as the Milwauke use 100% nitrogen not air.
Just because you cant afford milwaukee doesnt mean your trash dewault or makita are better at all lmao
Total BS that they won’t sell you parts on these guns.
You should replace the seals when recharging the cylinder too. They probably cost $1. But they won’t sell them….
No different from a mountain bike air shock. PSI on an air shock is actually higher I think.
I bought a dewalt instead for this reason.
@@JacqueCRISCOsd How is the dewalt different than the Milwaukee?
always make sure the driver piston is fully extended(meaning like where it would be when shooting a nail and not going back in) before refilling metabo hpt has a maintenance mode i believe milwaukee does too or you can just make sure you install it like that when putting it back together but if you dont you will be charging a smaller portion to the "correct"psi and then when u shoot a nail the chamber opens up and your pressure is not really where you thought also if your gun is fully charged and you take it apart be very careful moving anything around because if that motor slips it will go off and you can get seriously hurt
Exactly why Milwaukee used security screws, they don't really want stupid people injuring themselves with their tools.
I was told that pressing the power button 5 times and then depress the safety only and fire it so the pin fully extends. I tried it on my 18 g and it didn’t work lol.
still trying to figure out how to get it into maintenance mode, there must be a tech manual somewhere that the factory techs use.
Knocking on wood but my gen1 15gauge is 3 years old ,milwaukee, still shoots great,dewalt has that flywheel, pasloade fan sound,don't like it,but metabos recharging adapter and maintenance mode is nice! Hagd!
Thanks for showing us how it’s done. Another reason to buy the Metabo HPT nail gun. Don’t get me wrong, I’m fully (over?)invested in MKE tools, but I still research many major tool purchases. As for proprietary battery platforms…I still buy a fair bit of corded / compressor-powered tools.
Love those Milwaukee lights and nail guns. most of my other stuff is DeWalt. A man in today's world has to have a few flavors in his toolbox.
I have the Milwaukee 23 gauge pin nailer, 18 gauge, and 15 gauge angle nailer. I love the mobility and ease of use of all these, but the pinner just starting acting up, not setting the nails all the way leaving about a 1/32" sticking out. Even with the smallest nail sets they leave too large a hole. Might as well use the 18 gauge. So, thank you for sharing this excellent video with us and I will be recharging my pinner very soon. You may have just saved me hundreds of dollars!
HF sells an inexpensive set of security bits that cover every size and type of security screw. DeWalt uses #8 security screws in its battery cases.
The new Makita is also made to be self serviceable and looks awesome.
But are there also cordless GASLESS(!!) nail guns that dont have that cylinder??
And It might actually finally be released a year from now...
Milwauke use nitrogen not air. which is why it isn't desgined to be diyer serviceable.
@@Doyle047 The Milwaukee gun is "supposed" to be charged with nitrogen. Just like when the dealership puts it in your tires and tells you you have to come to them to get your tires filled, I feel like it actually doesn't really matter if you just use normal air.
Nitrogen also doesn't expand and contract with temperature like regular air does
Currently framing houses and we bought one as an extra for the portability and ease of use so we will see how it holds up from daily use this summer
As a timberframer, I top up my tank about every 18 months and I normally do 170 psi so it could sink 90mm ringshank into C24 timber. If you do too much pressure, it'll stall the motor, stop working
Amazing work!
It looks like they could’ve made a the service valve a lot easier to access.
The gun uses nitrogen not air which is why it isn't desgin to be serviced by a DIYer
This video was a real...... nail-bitter at 210psi! SAFETY QUINTS REQUIRED!!
Milwaukee uses nitrogen in nail guns preventing DIY repairs , so they claim , so little these have compressed air/nitrogen inside dont think it matters .
Hitachi/Hikoki/Meiabo HPT uses compressed air , with filler point easy access, you dont need to open whole tool.
Normal air we breathe is 70 percent nitrogen so technically you’re putting oxygen nitrogen in it
Safety squints won’t help you at 210 psi …
@@austincantrell2575In scuba diving we call it nitrox.
The kicker is their sister brand Ridgid made their nail gun fillable with a bike pump, with valve accessible after removing a plastic cover.
the Ridgid is based a rebaged Senco which is why there is more difference between them. The milwaukee alo is meant to have nitrogen not air.
@@Doyle047 aren't rigid, ryobi, milwaukee and aeg all built in the same factory?
I feel like you could use a 90* elbow and drill a hole into the side of the casing to add a shrader valve so you dont need to take it apart everytime.
Also, the thing I've noticed with those shock pumps being a mountain biker, because they screw on and it's such high PSI you always lose a good bit of pressure when pulling it off. When I do my shocks I always aim higher then what I want and when I pull it off it's closer to the actual Pressure.
There is a simpler way, turn the bell 90° and drill a 15mm hole in the gun shell, opposite the inscriptions, to put the valve on the outside. This way it is possible to repressurize at any time without disassembling the housing.
@jean-marcbriane7283 Thanks for retyping what I just said to do. Lol
Ur gunna make it on RUclips fr I love you man just found you today. Wish you had more long videos 😢
Good video, great tip. One very small thing to note, I'm very sure its originally filled with Nitrogen. The molecules are larger, so leakage/seepage happens slower. Looks like regular air works, though, so, small detail
That is probably how it works, though it's probably not worth the hassle if they can be refilled
Yup the metabo hpt/Hitachi ones used to use nitrogen too but they stopped using it and just swapped for regular air with no problems, maybe a litttttle extra seepage but if the gun is serviceable it doesn't matter at all.
The air we breath is like 90 percent nitrogen.
@ds29912 approx 78. When you buy Hydrogen Peroxide at Walgreens, it's only 3%, if you buy vinegar to cook with, it's only 5%, but 6% or stronger for cleaning. So, there's definitely a difference between 78% and 99%.
Keep up the work man. The videos are great just the algorithm needs to bless you and you will make it.
Thanks bro for your help ,I had 2 milwaukee 18 guage brad nailers and bought a third one but after this video I tried to fix them and it worked, you're a life saver, 👍
for lube use white lithium grease, get the metabo/hitachi you can get the proper refill tool and buy all the maintenance parts. you don't have to send it back to the factory. The metabo recharge tool doesn't fit (it has different threads)
That's why I like the Metabo/Hitatchi guns with the access port and that are user refillable (and you can also add more psi easily to make it as powerful as you want). Also interested to see if the lifetime warranty on the new Flex ones includes recharging.
I love my Milwaukee stuff, but I've got to give Metabo props for that!
These are all based off the Senco patent. Senco’s own guns even let you re-gas easily. I don’t understand why Milwaukee had to be d bags about it.
the flex also has four screws on the back plate and you can get right to a fillport there similar to how metabo hpt works even has a sticker to tell you the psi makes it very easy
@@nickp3270 flex sells the adapter
Milwaukee really messed up with this tool, now imagine how many nailers will end up in the bin because it would not be worth sending them back for service. Planned obsolesce.
There is a youtube channel named Dean Doherty focusing on tool repairs, he regularly says that quality vise, Milwaukee is a DIY tool at best, since they break too fast and in order to fix them he needs cannot just replace one specific part, but usually an entire assembly of them. I see plenty of people being happy with the brand, but there probably is a disparity between comfort of use/performance and durability.
@@petrsidlo7614 I am not familiar with that channel (will check it out though), but I do agree with him. The nailer is the perfect example!
Milwaukee is planned obsolescence, viral marketing, and fragile masculinity in a trenchcoat.
My 2744-20 framing gun failed me yesterday! I have literally only fired roughly 1500 nails through it. When I pulled the trigger, it made a grinding sound and only sank the 3 1/4" framing nail roughly 1/2". To top it off, Milwaukee wants $268 to fix it being the warranty has been out about 6 months!!! I can buy a new one (tool only) on sale for $329. Hoping to figure out how to repair this one......
I’ve had my framer hitachi for 5 years now and never done the re-gas 🤷🏻♂️ though does get a full clean and pneumatic air tool oil every year ish. your compressor oil looked very thick though. stuff I use is quite thin, takes a few days for the nail gun after the service to not send nails 10-15mm deep into the timber.
Seeing that it's an o-ring on the piston head, it would likely use silicone grease - or the same grease used on pneumatic nailer rebuild kits. Should also mention that the original fill is nitrogen. Nitrogen molecules are bigger so are less likely to leak or leak more slowly, so if you fill with regular air will have to refill sooner. An option is if you get a nitrogen cylinder refill kit or maybe a tire shop that does nitrogen refills - though I don't know if they can or would be willing to refill with that much pressure not knowing the integrity of the cylinder.
Air is 78% nitrogen.
@@mr.wizeguy8995 If 22% of your fill leaks out, you still have to refill.
That's the same BS excuse used for filling tires, the difference in leakage is negligible. The real reason a nitrogen fill would have been used is because it will have been dry, and it's an inert gas. This both prevents corrosion and eliminates the possibility of dieseling the cylinder lubricant.
@@ferrumignis Paslode gas chamber gets affected for normal air and it has zero harmful effects for it so why would Milwaukee chamber get defect when it's even closed chamber doesn't affect so much humidity changes etc.
@@ferrumignis I don't fill my tires with nitrogen for that exact reason. A tire is not a sealed metal cylinder designed to constantly pressurize at high instantaneous psi. Feel free to refill your cylinder more frequently.
Don't complain about security screws- anyone that is knowledgeable enough to work on tools, equipment, etc will have these bits as they're not exotic (and even come as part of larger bit kits these days). They're used to keep kids and people who have no idea what they're doing from messing around and damaging the tool (or themselves). They also provide legal protection.
If all you own is a flat and phillips head screwdriver you're not doing this kind of stuff anyway and likely aren't very handy.
Just make sure when you pressurise the tank that the firing pin is all the way forward as if you've just fired a nail. If the pin is all the way back ready to fire & you fill the tank you're only filling the part behind the plunger & you won't have the required pressure. Also before working on these make sure to purge the air & make sure firing pin is all the way forward to make sure gun is safe to work on.
Also 210 psi sounds way too high to me. The metabo/ hikoki Framing nailer only needs 72.5 psi with the special air regulator used to refill them
If thats a schrader valve on the canister; couldnt you take out the valve with a remover tool and fill it with oil without dissassembly
You technically don't even need to relubricate anything, but I figured if the nail gun was leaking a proper cleaning and lubrication made sense
I just sent 2 nail guns in last week and got them back in less than a week, it was free and they pay for shipping as long as they are less than 5 yrs old, I had no receipts
A good warranty service would definitely help make up for some of the issue here. I bought mine used so I didn't think to try that
@@ItllProbablyWorkyou could probably still have gotten it done for free if the serial number shows less than 5 years from date of manufacturing. If the serial comes back less than 5 years it's free. I believe they even warn you this will happen in the manual and tell you that you'll have to send it in to get recharged for free once in a while.
The Hitachi accessories isn't meant to be sold to the consumer just dealers and repair agents. Also the Milwaukee service portal recommends 125 PSI of nitrogen.
They added that feature on the Ryobi and Ridgid framing nailer where you can pressurize it. I guess they finally got tired of fixing it with the Milwaukee, so expect a gen 2.
Hopefully they put it in the gen 2, that would be real nice
@@ItllProbablyWork I kinda want to just sell my Milwaukee and stick with my Hikoki. I have everything which includes the long magazine, but Hikoki also released their long magazine just a month ago.
Any chance you can give an update on how its lasted? I'm about ready to do this fix myself. Should I use a different lubricant for the inside? It almost seems like the original lube was a thick tacky grease rather than air compressor lubricant.
Wonder if the PSI on that bike pump is accurate... Either way great fix! Had no idea how these worked.
If I had to guess the valve setup(there are two) was probably the biggest thing throwing off the measurements, hard to be sure though
That's not a bike pump. It's a shock pump.
High pressure, low volume.
They go up to 300PSI which are what high end mountain bike shocks are rated for.
Should one use air tool oil instead of compressor oil?
This was fantastic! Nice job 👍
I like the dewalt framing nailer it gives you the Allen key need to pull it apart with the tool and it stays on the tool
Nice. I wonder if that could be done with a nitrogen shock filling kit rather than a compressor. Also wonder what Milwaukee charges. ..
No personal experience with those, but if they can get to 200+ psi they should work fine
@@ItllProbablyWork Yeah, woulda been handy if they’d have designed these to be easily user serviceable, but then some knucklehead would probably not follow instructions, injure themselves, and get a lawyer.
As a Milwaukee gun owner, I'll save this video for future 'reference'
In Norway refilling a milwaukee nailer is about 250 bucks. Hikoki will do it for free. I do however have an adapter to fill it myself. The problem with milwaukee is that it uses nitrogen (?)
I Found this video through a short recommended by the algorithm. Now I'm subscribing to find out what "somethin' dumb with two nail guns" is.
Double check I’m filming in case this explodes!!! Nice vid dude very helpful
You think its crazy but if you loosen the allen wrench locking pin you can turn the cylinder refill nozzle up then drill a hole through case. NEVER HAVE TO OPEN IT TO RECHARGE IT AGAIN
Where exactly is this alley wrench locking pin located??
@@bmanmitch2005 mine was ontop of where the cylinder threads into gear area
@@mattrumbattrum9952 Ok, did you thread a Schrader valve into it there?
The screw was by the threads for the cylinder housing and the schraeder valve was going down into handle. I turned it to face out the riggt side of gun. So i got a dewalt cordless tire inflator and it goes up to 160 psi to refill the cylinder
That fitting didn’t work at all for me? There’s nothing in the adapter to engage pin in the Schrader valve deep in the recess. The Makita tool has that. I’m curious how you magically made the adapter work?
That’s what I was thinking!? How will it engage the original Schrader pin down low this way?
I think it would be better to fill with argon or nitrogen, less likely to leak past the seals, less moisture,etc. Just harder to control the pressure.
The reason why 120psi didnt work is because you are supposed to have the driver fully forward when filling it.
Now please figure out how to fix the Dewalt versions. Especially the 18g
You filled it with the piston in?
when you remove the air fitting, how did the air not escape from the cylinder ?
There's a valve that keeps the air in thankfully, kind of like the valve for a car tire
This video is helpful. Thank you for this!
What type of grease has someone used inside one of these nailers to lubricant the piston?
Hahaha 300 bucks I spent over 600 bucks with the extend mag for the damn thing the first day they came out with them an I loved the huge crest wrench u used that was epic lol
I wondered if anyone would catch that wrench. 😉 It was the closest thing at the time
@@ItllProbablyWork good stuff least I know I can rebuild mine if needed
It would be cool if you drilled a hole in the side of the body and used an extension hose or something so that the refill valve is accessible without dismantling the nail gun.
Couldn't you just rotate the cylinder an extra 90°and drill a hole in the cover for the refill port?
I thought they filled it with nitrogen? Wonder if that makes any difference. I guess air is mostly nitrogen anyways, but I wouldn't want the oxygen playing havoc with anything. What with that oxidation business.
Yes they do use nitrogen to keep the cylinder from rusting. Putting just air in will make that tool useless in no time. I just bought this nailer and am going to take it to a tire shop and get them to put nitrogen in when it needs it
You could take apart the new one and check its pressure- just before educational purposes to once and for all tell the internet the OEM pressure Milwaukee sets it at
If you buy it used and it's within 5 years of the manufacture date it's covered under warranty and they'll recharge it for free.
I just got one apart, waiting on the special end to refill the tank. The tank itself says 102 PSI, just wondering if anyone else has fixed one and how much you put in. I saw another video where the guy put like 160-180
Great job. I would have paid the 100 bucks believing I had no other choice.
I just did this with my first fix and couldn't get it to work! Didn't allot me to pump it up!
Do you have to take the core out of the one on the inside? I can’t get it to take any pressure for some reason
Like the core and the piston? You might have to relube it
Dean Doherty calls Milwaukee "designer tools"
Well….you nailed it. 👍
Thanks for the great tip.
The best way to use a Milwaukee strip nailer is to replace it with a Hikoki 1890DBCL before use.
Why's my m18 fn16ga just makes a clicking noise not firing
will this work on a 18 gauge nail gun.
Ridgid which is made by the same company has a valve to recharge it on the outside. Why Millwaukee doesn't is beyond me.
Hikoki has valve right at the back to do this.
Paslode and Hilti are the best nail guns.
thats exactly what i was looking for.thanks
single video made me subscribe
It’s got a massive chain, that’s nuts.
I think they use those screws so people don’t accidentally kill themselves.
I’ve worked trades for awhile and I think half my peers could do this safely but the other half…
Torx is already pretty much standard for most power tools for mechanical reasons, that's the main part, but it could be partially for liability too. If they make it reasonably difficult for the average joe to open up they can claim you went out of your way to open it and should have known what you were doing, in the event that you hurt yourself.
Milwaukee uses nitrogen not air so that may be one of the reasons they don’t want you filling the cylinder. I honestly don’t know if it makes a difference they say it does.
The atmosphere is 78% nitrogen bud
Exactly, was looking for this comment 👍
@@evictioncarpentry2628 are you trying to say that putting air in is the same as putting straight nitrogen in because it’s not bud. Air condensates easier than nitrogen. Which I’m assuming may be one of the reasons for the nitrogen
@@steffendetrick OK, here's some facts.
Every nail gun on the market right now uses the same technology. They all license Sencos patent.
There are easily half a dozen other guns on the market now and a few of those are user rechargeable with compressed air. Are all those other companies wrong? (Two of the them are the same parent company TTI as Milwaukee) I don't see anyone having an issue with them.
There is no difference in this case of pure nitrogen or atmospheric compressed air.
@@evictioncarpentry2628 Im well aware that it’s a senco patent . what does that have to do with anything? Just because a company license a patent from another that doesn’t mean that the technology in all of those brands that licensed it are going to be the same. Each company is going to implement their own design type that technology. I clearly said I’m not sure why they use nitrogen but it does not condensate as easily as air does. Milwaukee probably has there reasons for using nitrogen. your rant accomplished nothing.🤦♂️ you’re not telling anybody anything new and you’re not addressing anything that I said. I guess that was supposed to be a flex.😂 like I said, there is definitely a difference between pure nitrogen and compressed or “ atmospheric air”. One condensates easier -air, which is also why you have to drain your compressor.
planned obsolescence can be reasonable if fixing the problem is engineered in. this however is engineered not only to fail, but to not be serviceable, that should be criminal
Who would have thought an air tank would leak, definitely not Milwaukee. 😂
Bro i did excatly what you did with a mountain bike pump , mine goes up to 150 psi and it was enough . Now the fraimer is like brand new but i forget to put oil in the cylinder i don't know if its a worry or not for the sustainability
If you didn't clean the grease off the cylinder and bolt you're probably okay. Cleaning and relubricating is mainly important to keeping your seals better for longer
I had an issue like this. Bought the valve adapter and tried to add pressure, seemed like it took air but i cannot get it to fire a nail in more then half way of a 3" nail. Daum you
Milwaukee!!
You might need to put in more pressure, as the video mentioned I ended up putting a lot more than I expected I would need to. You might also check your seals
@@ItllProbablyWork i only have a compressor and it goes to 120PSI i noticed.. so yea more PSI might fix it
@@stabila9706 You can adjust limit on compressor pressure switch temporary to increase the upper limit BUT it would also depend on compressor and I wouldn't go above 160PSI, some compressors are set up for 155PSI from the factory too.
Don't they use nitrogen in tanks for pressure?
Yes they do and they're maintenance free
@@charlieaddlesee8834 All pressurized systems leak and the maintenance free part is that you do not oil or lube anything.
Can send the link to the Schrader valve you used
I put it in the description, but here it is again:
amzn.to/49uRro6
That BST Schrader valve doesn't work for the 30 degree Milwaukee nail framer. The Schrader port is too long and the BST Schrader valve is too short ..Has anyone tried the Hitachi reduction valve???Please let me know, Thanks in advance.
Like every tool you buy it’s called they all need maintenance which most people neglect.
Good info
I love milwsukee tools when they work it just seems build quality SUCKS or materials or both maybe
Couldn't you check the pressure in the new one? I'm just curious what the psi in the new one is
So it uses nitrogen rather than normal air, so that'll be a little different. But the other issue is the way the valve system works it's pretty difficult to actually check the pressure already in the cylinder
What type of air pump are you using?. Thanks for the great service info in this video
A bike shock pump. It's designed to relatively high pressures (for a Schrader valve)
AEG/RIDGID is the Best. compressed air to 125 PSI. You dont have to take the gun apart to refill the air it already has a Allen Key nut to with an access panel and you hook up the air hose..
I though Milwaukee ran on Nitrogen
So skip the steps and air it up, then when it needs to be repressurized, do the rest of the steps because you loosing air through leaks
Great/helpful video.
Maybe next time replace the o ring too on the cylinder
My buddy has a Metabo and it has a nipple to pressurize. You'd think Milwaukee would.
That is because Milwauke use nitrogen not air
Well done💯👏👏👏👏👏
Is the pump you used like just a simple bicycle pump to fill tires? Also do you know if this fix will work with their 23 gauge pin nailer?
Now you gotta make a video on what youll do with 2 nail guns lol
So you really didn't have to disassemble the whole thing. Is what I'm getting
Thanks for the cool video! (as always ;) )
Check the psi in the new one and your all set😂
Good video i just think the volume was a bit low
Also go -0.87psi (~-1bar) vacuum with a security pin holding the striker before filling. You want the striker to be all the way out before fillin/vacuum
Wtf where are my comments
I bet I could make that kind of drillbit by drilling a hole in the tip of a star bit(that’s what I called that shape bit)
Oh ya, though they're also not too hard to find at a hardware store. The security screw aspect is mainly an unnecessary annoyat
yeah its just a security torx usually T10 on most tools
Awesome video tanks
Ryobi just has a valve you can fill it up on the outside and it takes me 2 seconds to fill it up
How do you like the Ryobi?
I'll drill a hole in my case and have a line stick out lol