I had been using my little Porter Cable for years (I'm an occasional DIY'er), but it was developing a leak and ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHQsUrwNr5GQrnx9V4xDdUr56qxwuiBHt I saw that rebuild kits were like $60-70. That's a big no for me. So I rolled the dice on this bad boy. I'm glad I did. It works beautifully. Feels great, not like a little cheap piece of junk, definitely along the lines of something I'd have expected to pay twice as much for if the brand was different. Outstanding value. Make sure you put a couple drops of oil in the inlet though, these tools MUST have lubrication.
Im 25 and a builder, i had the Hikoki for a while, grew to hate it, same with the brad gun. Too heavy, slips too much, switches itself off every 15min!, the batteries go flat kinda quick, you have to push hard to get the nozzle to depress enough and its super bulky especially the head which makes it very hard to get between studs etc. Then i bought a new generation Paslode, and wow it makes you realise that the old tried and true tools cant be beat. Its so much smaller and lighter, and the angle of the tool and pointy head makes it super easy to grip onto the wood and get into tight spaces, its got more power than the older models and it doesnt switch itself off!!!! Yes it takes gas, but the cartridges fire over 1000 nails, so i dont get what the big deal is, theyre cheap enough to buy anyway. I know you never read the comments or reply, but thats my 2 cents.
Awesome point m: years not months before a tool shows it’s worth...lol or taking it out of the box! Always nice to hear from a guy that actually uses the tools!
I’ve tried this gun for a bit after my boss bought one. It’s tough, and drives well, but it’s ergonomically kind of awkward. I have 12amp batteries for saws that I use, and it’s not too awkward. But the largest battery I’d use for those framing nailers is honestly a 2amp lol. I own a few paslode guns, and I honestly can’t switch. I respect and own all milwaukee tools, except for their framing guns. Once they become a bit lighter, then I’ll consider switching.
As an Ozy carpenter working in California and owning both nail guns. The Milwaukee is the only way to go. As a Commercial framer we only use .148 screw shank nails. Cordless Hikoki ( hitachi ) does not. I run the Milwaukee all day 40hrs a week and haven’t had any issues. Love ya work Scotty B ... look forward to the next one!!
They have been abit slow on it. My paslode is limping along waiting for the release. Couldn’t find my paslode battery the other day and nearly upgraded.
Doing as much framing as Scott is doing on his current project I would set a compressor and hoses. With that much framing to do you can't compete with pneumatic power. Besides he will be there a while and not like you have to load the compressor in and out of the van everyday. I would only be using the cordless nailers it cramped quarters like the attic, roof, a crawl space with limited access or small amount of framing. Not only that most pneumatic naliers hold two strips of nails at a time. Just my two cents or nickels, sinse Canada doesn't have pennies anymore Good video though Scott great info for those interested.
A little off topic, but i highly recommend padded knee pads. Granted you'll look like volleyball players, but the comfort is well worth it. Sure was glad that I had them when I was painting the interior of a boat last weekend.
I have a newish version of the Paslode, I bought it a Year ago. It has performed flawlessly and has never given me any trouble. I'm hoping Makita release an 18v brushless framing gun as I'm on the Makita 18v platform.
I also bought a Paslode framer about a year ago. So far, I haven't noticed any issues nailing into anything (Pine/spruce, LVL, Pressure treated) it always works. The weight and balance is really good. The other cordless on the market are so bulky and heavy. The paslode for me is for 1 or 2 day framing jobs because they are a bit slow and the gas is expensive. Any other time, I'll use my old Hitachi pneumatic.
The fact the Hikoi stays up when you put it down is actually a huge upside for me. Might seem like a small thing but when your picking up and putting it down dozens of times a day it makes a big difference
Actually in my situation it is the exact opposite. I use finish nailers. I prefer to lay the tool down. If it is standing up and it gets bumped, it will tip over and damage a finished hardwood floor. I try to get in the habit of always laying down drills, nailers etc and not balancing them standing up for this exact reason
Couldn’t you modify an addition to the Milwaukee to have a top stand if you really wanted to? I modify my drills with magnetic bit holders with empty 9mm shells
I feel you, because of the batterie Eco system of milwaukee I stuck with their nailgun. Having a 3d printer I made me a base for the nailgun so it stays up when putting it down. I made different little feet which aren't noticeable in size and color so it doesnt fall down. When it's upside down or in normal position without a battery. Saved me a lot of time. Also the 3d printed plastic doesn't damage the underground surface. Price for the feet I made are about 20€cent. Size of the feet about 1cm (about 0.4in) in width and height.
I just recently bought the Milwaukee gun. Been using DeWalt for years and decided to gain a second battery system which will allow me more flexibility and options when buying further tools. Now I can buy which every red or yellow tool is better. First day on site it needed to laminate together two 50mm wide LVL boundary joists. Two of the guys paslodes struggled to get nails halfway into the timber whilst the Milwaukee ploughed through them. Ended up nailing an end and then handing the Milwaukee across to the other chap to do the other end each time.
My thoughts exactly I have never had any qualms of using two battery platforms then you can always choose the better designed tool in each category - i.e I prefer Makita's combi drills and impacts but prefer Dewalts angle grinders and multi tools etc etc.
Same. Most my stuff is DeWalt, but wasn’t about to buy their framing nailer. I tried the Metabo from Lowes, but I think I got a bad one, the rubber was coming off the handle. Sent it back and bought the Milwakuee. Now I have more options. Love it so far.
It should be noted that you can use a Makita (or Dewalt) battery on it with a $20 adapter. So you can use the Milwaukee and not need to be on two battery platforms. That's what I do. I love my Milwaukee framing nailer (and Brad nailer).
Too many people do not know this. It's fantastic. Only suitable for the tools that do not draw maximum current from the battery imo. So I would not be using the adaptor on say a Milwaukee angle grinder. But great highlight of the adaptors - available on ebay and Amazon nowadays.
I just bought a Makita adapter last night, but will try to test it in the shop before I buy the finishing gun. I really wish makita made a gasless framer and some decent finishing guns
@@Lenzcarpentry totally agree! I loved my Makita nailers at first, but started to have issues with them. The 40v brad is supposed to be great, so maybe they've corrected their designs
Have you thought about doing a glove comparison? As a cabinet maker I've developed arthritis and been doing a lot of comparisons like fingerless, thumb index finger less, milwakee cut resistant and many others. So far the best I've found that really surprised me was the milwakee cut resistant gloves.
i use a couple paslodes every day. the newer one sinks about 60-80% of the nails into the LVL.. there is always the odd one you gotta get your hammer out for. Trying to decide which gun i want to buy. Currently i can't even find where to buy the Hikoki
With all the tools that makita do on the 18v range I still can't believe they don't do a 1st fix nail gun. Untill they do I'll stick with my paslode,,, cba with all the different batteries and chargers. One brand for me
Theres the "scientific" reviews where someone really digs into the nitty gritty of a tool, then theres the reviews from people who just go "yeah i just used this to get my work done". I think both are equally important as they provide valuable insight from different views. The problem comes when someone is doing one of these, whilst claiming to do the other. Which you dont, so great video!
@@mosquitoskeet2189 I bought one a couple months ago, and you won't regret it, this thing keeps trucking! I've dropped it off 6ft scaffolds multiple times and it still works.
Same here no trouble with hardwood or LVL. You definitely have to maintain the Paslode but I've used the hikoki and the DeWalt (do not recommend) the Hikoki is great but for overhead work the Paslode wins everytime
I use 16ga finishe gun a lot. Paslode is still my best choice. So light and compact. 18v platefrom still need to get more improvement like reduce size and weight. Imagine you need to hold the gun for whole day, comfortable is the key. Don't worry about service and gas for paslode. Add bit money on the quote will be covered.
I went with the Newest Paslode CFN325XP, for the fact Paslode is designed and ASSEMBLED in the U.S. and not made in China then sold for almost the exact same cost(something isn’t right there). The Milwaukee didn’t come with a hard(or soft) case anymore(at least not at my store), Paslode has been building (and constantly improving) nailers forever it seems. The maintenance is pretty simple, it’s only like 7.5lbs and the newest model is a beast! The gas is a downside, but at $13 U.S. I can handle that every 1000 nails or so. I may try a Milwaukee or Ridgid once they’ve been put through the paces and earned their stripes. I’ve just had bad experiences with battery nailers(Dewalt mainly, that thing isn’t worth the box it came in). I’ll give the Milwaukee a few years, that’ll tell all in the long run. Until then I’ll stick with the American made tried and true Paslode brand! Good video Scott!
I'm on the milwaukee platform. Have over 10 power tools from them. Worked out cheaper to buy the hikoki, case, charger and two 5 amp batteries, then a body only milwaukee nail gun. Absolutely crazy. Uk based.
Yep I agree, they go ok into LVL, just an odd nail punch to set them. I just like them because of the weight to. I don't frame everyday, but they are good to go for most framing tasks.
They need and have to, now I have the full plataform of xgt 40v, and I missing a lot a table saw, cordless compressor, framing and finish nailers, that mean if they don’t release pretty’s soon I will go with hitachi/metabo/hikoki. The huge plus is ac adaptor No one have that
Nothing beats a framing coil nailer. I dislike strip nailers because their nails are smooth inst as of aggressively spiraled, they also come in the right nail sizes for almost any framing/decking/fencing application.
I've got the older paslode framer and 16 gauge nailers been taking years of abuse and stull going strong, new batteries is all i needed when they give up the ghost I'll spring for the Milwaukee but i haven't seen the gen2 16g out yet.
Excellent, funny, review. With that no-mar tip, would this gun be okay to attach weatherboards, in your 'professional' opinion? I very much rate your opinion, by the way!
A quick look at Craigslist will tell you where things are going. I live in the New York area and a search for "framing nailer" turned up one Dewalt, one metabo, no Milwaukees and LOTS of Paslodes.
For me it’s pretty simple- it really depends on what job I’m doing to what gun I pull out. If you are framing walls all day I roll out the hose and use an Paslode air nailer- it’s light and shoots all day. If I’m installing trusses nothing beats my Paslode gas gun, it’s super light and hangs on your belt or a truss easily, and into Pine here in Australia it’s powerful enough. But if doing renos or small jobs like building a bath hob the battery only guns are great but way too heavy to use all day. I’m a Dewalt man through and through but their framing gun is the pits. It’s really the only tool they do I’m not happy with. I actually love my Dewalt battery fixing gun- the tip on it is perfect and the gun itself is almost comparable to a air gun. Have a great Christmas everyone.
Well Scott,if you don’t release another video before Christmas may I wish you and the boys a great Christmas and New Year. Looking forward to the New Year and more great Scott Brown Carpentry video’s.👍👍👍🍻🍻🍾🍾🎉🎉
What I noticed using the Paslode vs air nailers is it seem to kick or move studs more when toe nailing. Have you noticed any difference in how the electric nailers are about this?
Both the Hikoki and Milwaukee guns are pretty heavy and that seems to lessen the kickback and help them sink the nails. The Paslode gun is about 6 lbs lighter which is nice when hanging from your belt but not when you have to pull out your hammer every time.
Why is the dislikes nearly the same amount in all the videos?. They need to remove the dislike button. Nothing to dislike about "Scott brown".. Always look forward an learn from him an his videos
I really need to upgrade, here I am in Canada still using a Mastercraft framing nailer and a compressor. Only thing though I haven't committed to a brand of batteries yet.
I have a lot of Milwaukee tools but also makita. Sometimes a certain brand has more of what you want in a certain tool then the other. I just buy Milwaukee batteries (they are the best) and use them with what ever other brand tool using adapters. Can use them on most tools no problem. Some of the adapters aren’t the best quality but something to keep in mind. Some even have usb ports on top so you can use the battery to charge phones etc.
I started out with the 18ga ryobi gun then added the 18ga Millwaukee and framer. I dont use or own any Millwaukee battery's , i was 100% Makita with 16 battery's till now. Just use adapters on all the different tools.
A major issue with all of the 'tool reviewers' on here. They review a brand spankin new tool, not a year old hammered one that still jives like the day you bought it.
@@Jorash_Barison Exactly. I don't think you can get a full on review unless that tool has been put through it's paces. If it doesn't make it on the building site, it's a one way ticket to the skip. I did a few tool reviews, stuff still going strong after 13+ years of site use...
@@dagored100 yes yes. Rigid, Ryobi, stiletto hammers, empire measuring and marking etc... I guess I still like to think there's some actually milwaukians in there still
I’m slightly miffed with Milwaukee about one thing: when they announced the gun, last year the numbers I saw said theirs would be 2kg lighter than the Hikoki. Then when they released it I saw numbers saying 1kg lighter. Then when I got my own it was basically the same, or in fact as you have pointed out a bit heavier than the Hikoki. Considering I had to pay more for it skin only that the Hikoki costs with a 2 battery kit, and so had to buy another tool with a 2 battery kit so I could actually use it, I’m pretty annoyed. Milwaukee tools are good quality, but I’m a poor apprentice and I would have got the Hikoki framing nailer kit if I had known all I know now. Ps, it’s a bit of a bloody workout holding that up high to shoot nails. But at least it doesn’t misfire every 10th nail or need gas like the Paslode.
I’m a makita guy but trust me which ever platform or brand you’re on as an apprentice just know you already on one of the best of them. I myself love my makita mainly for the ergonomics and the feel. Makita may lack a little in power compared to the red and yellow but i don’t need 3 hands and a friend to hold onto the damn thing or a pair of multi grips just to change the battery😂
I'm not trying to be funny Philip mate but I kind feel that you could have read some reviews before shelling the money out and found that out about the weight I do get what you mean though. You apprentices are lucky these days with all these new power tool technologies as when I was an apprentice we had to knock massive nails in by hand, I started to get tennis elbow a couple of years in. I hope that thought enjoying carpentry though bud. 👍😀
I run dewalt battery system, but their nail guns are crap, realising that I was already running two battery systems with the paslode I went to hikoki, love it!
their (DEWALT) saws are good but I agree on the framing nailer. But for $200 less (around here) they are more for DIY'er than the professional. Most contractors I know are running Milwaukee or Makita
If u press Milwaukee nailer and hold on trigger you can keep nailing just by touching wood, instead of pushing on trigger every shot. Do other nailers do that?
Milwaukee all the way. I’ve been switching over from dewalt. Especially the nailer. Dewalt makes some nice stuff but Milwaukee seems to be on top in terms of performance and reliability.
saw you this morning at PM have you tried either of the two hikoki dropsaws? with the corded battery system you only need the one dropsaw and you can use it corded or battery.
With the tool belt hook 🪝 maybe designed for left hand guys ? I have a 165mm circular saw left side blade not right??? It's ok for me but other friends tradies Carpenters have said not my favourite. Also to fix hook issue go see a welding/engineerimg company small firm should make a bracket in like 15 to 50 minutes Worth the wait outfront if you have or make the time.
Just in addition to paslode impulse nail guns I have one that’s about 18 months old, It’s amazingly powerful compared to my old model, but it’s extremely loud as opposed to the older models . I think it explodes more gas to get the power . It’s noise is horrible !
I have the Hikoki and had the same problem with slipping when skew nailing, I gave the inside of the nozzle claw a touch up with a file and it is way better. Also had to make my own hook as the European version comes with the huge rafter hook. Thanks for the videos Scott, They make for great watching!
I got super lucky when I bought in to the Hitatchi (now Hikoki) line a couple years ago. It was the first battery only line I was aware of at the time and happened to be on sale at the big box store. I ended up buying four guns: framer on down to pinner. Each one came with charger and battery. Couldn't be happier. And now I see all the comparisons on youtube that verify I made a good purchase.
Was the Hitachi to Hikoki name change recent? In the US they just changed from Hitachi to Metabo about a year ago. I wonder why they use different names around the world? Dewalt, Milwaukee, etc seem to use the same name everywhere.
@@Beef4Dinner22 I should have said "Metabo HPT" instead of Hikoki. I'm in the US. My mistake. Yeah, different names all over the place. I've seen videos with DeWalt tools that have Stanley on them. Of course, Stanley/DeWalt...one in the same.
Strikes me tat the main advantage of no-gas guns is when the weather is cold. Paslode in cold winter days is a no-go in my experience because the gas wont fire up. Shame these battery guns are so heavy though because if they competed on weight then they’d be the go-to nailer I think
I’m abit stuck. I have dewalt everything and want to get a nailer that actually nails. So thinking out of these 2 what one should i invest into. Am leaning more towards the Milwaukee cause of the other tools on its platform I may like.. what do you guys think? Sound reasonable? Or should I just got dewalt and also use a hammer haha
So I'm going to be building my first house. Which is best the 21 or 30 degree ? I really don't know the difference. I see you have the 30 but others use the 21.
My Hikoki nailer stays on for what seems like half an hour before shutting off. Maybe fifteen minutes. Also, you can buy a no-mar tip for Hikoki for only a few dollars, I think 8?. I bought two.
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I had been using my little Porter Cable for years (I'm an occasional DIY'er), but it was developing a leak and ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHQsUrwNr5GQrnx9V4xDdUr56qxwuiBHt I saw that rebuild kits were like $60-70. That's a big no for me. So I rolled the dice on this bad boy. I'm glad I did. It works beautifully. Feels great, not like a little cheap piece of junk, definitely along the lines of something I'd have expected to pay twice as much for if the brand was different. Outstanding value. Make sure you put a couple drops of oil in the inlet though, these tools MUST have lubrication.
Nothin better to start the week off with a Scott brown vid
Take it easy...It’s Sunday
Monday for me in Sydney
Still Sunday night for me, have a good one on the tools.
instablaster...
Im 25 and a builder, i had the Hikoki for a while, grew to hate it, same with the brad gun. Too heavy, slips too much, switches itself off every 15min!, the batteries go flat kinda quick, you have to push hard to get the nozzle to depress enough and its super bulky especially the head which makes it very hard to get between studs etc. Then i bought a new generation Paslode, and wow it makes you realise that the old tried and true tools cant be beat. Its so much smaller and lighter, and the angle of the tool and pointy head makes it super easy to grip onto the wood and get into tight spaces, its got more power than the older models and it doesnt switch itself off!!!! Yes it takes gas, but the cartridges fire over 1000 nails, so i dont get what the big deal is, theyre cheap enough to buy anyway. I know you never read the comments or reply, but thats my 2 cents.
Same grew to hate it aswell just way too heavy paslode all the way
Awesome point m: years not months before a tool shows it’s worth...lol or taking it out of the box! Always nice to hear from a guy that actually uses the tools!
good to see you here sir
I’ve tried this gun for a bit after my boss bought one. It’s tough, and drives well, but it’s ergonomically kind of awkward. I have 12amp batteries for saws that I use, and it’s not too awkward. But the largest battery I’d use for those framing nailers is honestly a 2amp lol. I own a few paslode guns, and I honestly can’t switch. I respect and own all milwaukee tools, except for their framing guns. Once they become a bit lighter, then I’ll consider switching.
One of the best reviews of the Milwaukee, Paslode, Hikoki Framing nailers. Thank you!
First and Only review I’ve seen that didn’t complain about the weight of the Milwaukee.
As an Ozy carpenter working in California and owning both nail guns. The Milwaukee is the only way to go. As a Commercial framer we only use .148 screw shank nails. Cordless Hikoki ( hitachi ) does not. I run the Milwaukee all day 40hrs a week and haven’t had any issues. Love ya work Scotty B ... look forward to the next one!!
Can't wait for the Makita one to come out!
Touch wood early 2021 - they have applied for patents in the US for a new generation battery only framing nailer - fingers crossed!
They have been abit slow on it. My paslode is limping along waiting for the release. Couldn’t find my paslode battery the other day and nearly upgraded.
first review i have ever seen where i agree absolutly every point made! wow. brilliant. thanks Scott.
Agreed....I just like the honesty from hands on experience rather than scientific facts...
I’m from Canada and saw a job ad looking for carpenters to immigrate to New Zealand. Sounds like a dream come true
Im Australian and they're always advertising for trades here to go there, wages arent quite as good though, but definitely a beautiful place!
Doing as much framing as Scott is doing on his current project I would set a compressor and hoses. With that much framing to do you can't compete with pneumatic power. Besides he will be there a while and not like you have to load the compressor in and out of the van everyday. I would only be using the cordless nailers it cramped quarters like the attic, roof, a crawl space with limited access or small amount of framing. Not only that most pneumatic naliers hold two strips of nails at a time.
Just my two cents or nickels, sinse Canada doesn't have pennies anymore
Good video though Scott great info for those interested.
Pneumatic guns are pretty much never used in NZ, and a large portion of people use the paslode gun still compared to the newer battery guns.
@@aenguslawes8154 I do, kiwis have a sheep mentality and dont want to be 'picked on'.
A little off topic, but i highly recommend padded knee pads. Granted you'll look like volleyball players, but the comfort is well worth it. Sure was glad that I had them when I was painting the interior of a boat last weekend.
got two pairs on 'internet and love them. I have bad knees from the sins of my youth and they really help when I'm doing flooring or deck work
I have a newish version of the Paslode, I bought it a Year ago. It has performed flawlessly and has never given me any trouble. I'm hoping Makita release an 18v brushless framing gun as I'm on the Makita 18v platform.
I'm thinking the same but now I'm thinking a battery converter makita to milwaki game changer
@@curtismarkey Indeed, I'm waiting patiently for Makita to release a 18v brushless 5" RO sander.
I also bought a Paslode framer about a year ago. So far, I haven't noticed any issues nailing into anything (Pine/spruce, LVL, Pressure treated) it always works. The weight and balance is really good. The other cordless on the market are so bulky and heavy. The paslode for me is for 1 or 2 day framing jobs because they are a bit slow and the gas is expensive. Any other time, I'll use my old Hitachi pneumatic.
I have the 40V makita brad nailer, it's AMAZING, I also waits for a battery framing gun from Makita.
The fact the Hikoi stays up when you put it down is actually a huge upside for me. Might seem like a small thing but when your picking up and putting it down dozens of times a day it makes a big difference
I've heard this exact complaint about the Dewalt many times!
Actually in my situation it is the exact opposite. I use finish nailers. I prefer to lay the tool down. If it is standing up and it gets bumped, it will tip over and damage a finished hardwood floor. I try to get in the habit of always laying down drills, nailers etc and not balancing them standing up for this exact reason
@@mikevandenbosch9081 With Hikoki you can do both up or down. Milwaukee only down.
Couldn’t you modify an addition to the Milwaukee to have a top stand if you really wanted to? I modify my drills with magnetic bit holders with empty 9mm shells
I feel you, because of the batterie Eco system of milwaukee I stuck with their nailgun. Having a 3d printer I made me a base for the nailgun so it stays up when putting it down. I made different little feet which aren't noticeable in size and color so it doesnt fall down. When it's upside down or in normal position without a battery. Saved me a lot of time. Also the 3d printed plastic doesn't damage the underground surface. Price for the feet I made are about 20€cent. Size of the feet about 1cm (about 0.4in) in width and height.
Scott, thanks for all your videos this year. Happy NY to you and your family. I'm a Hikoki user.
I just recently bought the Milwaukee gun. Been using DeWalt for years and decided to gain a second battery system which will allow me more flexibility and options when buying further tools. Now I can buy which every red or yellow tool is better. First day on site it needed to laminate together two 50mm wide LVL boundary joists. Two of the guys paslodes struggled to get nails halfway into the timber whilst the Milwaukee ploughed through them. Ended up nailing an end and then handing the Milwaukee across to the other chap to do the other end each time.
My thoughts exactly I have never had any qualms of using two battery platforms then you can always choose the better designed tool in each category - i.e I prefer Makita's combi drills and impacts but prefer Dewalts angle grinders and multi tools etc etc.
Same. Most my stuff is DeWalt, but wasn’t about to buy their framing nailer. I tried the Metabo from Lowes, but I think I got a bad one, the rubber was coming off the handle. Sent it back and bought the Milwakuee. Now I have more options. Love it so far.
I love my milwaukee nailer. I put up 120 feet of fence up today with it
milwaukee is the best dude. hands down. They got the best stuff out there right now
It should be noted that you can use a Makita (or Dewalt) battery on it with a $20 adapter. So you can use the Milwaukee and not need to be on two battery platforms. That's what I do. I love my Milwaukee framing nailer (and Brad nailer).
Too many people do not know this. It's fantastic. Only suitable for the tools that do not draw maximum current from the battery imo.
So I would not be using the adaptor on say a Milwaukee angle grinder.
But great highlight of the adaptors - available on ebay and Amazon nowadays.
I just bought a Makita adapter last night, but will try to test it in the shop before I buy the finishing gun. I really wish makita made a gasless framer and some decent finishing guns
@@Lenzcarpentry totally agree! I loved my Makita nailers at first, but started to have issues with them. The 40v brad is supposed to be great, so maybe they've corrected their designs
@@travis7500 Yeah, I would've bought that, but 40mm just isn't long enough sometimes
Got my Milwaukee on Thursday and been using it all weekend. Great bit of kit, the bump fire is great, just a shame you guys in NZ aren't allowed it!
Have you thought about doing a glove comparison?
As a cabinet maker I've developed arthritis and been doing a lot of comparisons like fingerless, thumb index finger less, milwakee cut resistant and many others. So far the best I've found that really surprised me was the milwakee cut resistant gloves.
i use a couple paslodes every day. the newer one sinks about 60-80% of the nails into the LVL.. there is always the odd one you gotta get your hammer out for. Trying to decide which gun i want to buy. Currently i can't even find where to buy the Hikoki
With all the tools that makita do on the 18v range I still can't believe they don't do a 1st fix nail gun. Untill they do I'll stick with my paslode,,, cba with all the different batteries and chargers. One brand for me
You can get adapters to run any brand battery with any brand tool. So could use your Makita batteries on the Milwaukee gun for instance
10:38 hahaha you cracked me up!! This what I call a straight up, honest, real review! No polish needed.
Theres the "scientific" reviews where someone really digs into the nitty gritty of a tool, then theres the reviews from people who just go "yeah i just used this to get my work done". I think both are equally important as they provide valuable insight from different views.
The problem comes when someone is doing one of these, whilst claiming to do the other. Which you dont, so great video!
The Milwaukee is waterproof. Dropped the whole thing in the lake while building a jetty. Still going strong
Really!? Wow, how's it holding up?
@@guzmanpatriot still going sweet as
Has your gun ever stop firing and need maintenance? Ive heard the internal gas cylinder runs out?
@@mosquitoskeet2189 not yet.had it for about 7 months with daily use
@@mosquitoskeet2189 I bought one a couple months ago, and you won't regret it, this thing keeps trucking! I've dropped it off 6ft scaffolds multiple times and it still works.
Get both ! A man can never have to many tools !
Great video Scott! Next time I do some framing I’m going to have to upgrade my old compressor/hose air nailer situation.
Their like 2 or 3 generations beyond that paslode, the newest one is a beast that shoots through anything.
Scott’s putting in the overtime this week!!!
Hope he still has time for his girlfriend after editing all these videos.
I own this gun, do yourself a favor and buy the extension mag it takes its o the next level
Notification = stop what I’m doing, like the video, sit down and enjoy
I've been waiting for this review since Scott got it!
Hi Scott, on your video you were showing the Milwaukee mitre saw what was the size and model no thanks #buildingdreams. Neville
Thanks for this break down man! It’s fueling my Milwaukee conformation bias
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My paslode is the newer version and it has no trouble sinking nails into hardwood LVL, even 90x45 tas oak framing it isn’t an issue.
Yeah mate, I agree. He needs to give that a go!
Yupyupp! I also have the new 1 counter sink all the way 😳 I don’t know what would stop that nail
Same here no trouble with hardwood or LVL. You definitely have to maintain the Paslode but I've used the hikoki and the DeWalt (do not recommend) the Hikoki is great but for overhead work the Paslode wins everytime
I use 16ga finishe gun a lot. Paslode is still my best choice. So light and compact. 18v platefrom still need to get more improvement like reduce size and weight. Imagine you need to hold the gun for whole day, comfortable is the key. Don't worry about service and gas for paslode. Add bit money on the quote will be covered.
The hikoki sound is just amazing 😂
I just bought one last week. Holy crap is it good!
I have no clue what you are talking about the Milwaukee but I like watching your videos. 👍👍
Just got a Milwaukee gun, very impressed so far
I went with the Newest Paslode CFN325XP, for the fact Paslode is designed and ASSEMBLED in the U.S. and not made in China then sold for almost the exact same cost(something isn’t right there).
The Milwaukee didn’t come with a hard(or soft) case anymore(at least not at my store), Paslode has been building (and constantly improving) nailers forever it seems. The maintenance is pretty simple, it’s only like 7.5lbs and the newest model is a beast!
The gas is a downside, but at $13 U.S. I can handle that every 1000 nails or so.
I may try a Milwaukee or Ridgid once they’ve been put through the paces and earned their stripes. I’ve just had bad experiences with battery nailers(Dewalt mainly, that thing isn’t worth the box it came in). I’ll give the Milwaukee a few years, that’ll tell all in the long run. Until then I’ll stick with the American made tried and true Paslode brand!
Good video Scott!
I'm on the milwaukee platform. Have over 10 power tools from them. Worked out cheaper to buy the hikoki, case, charger and two 5 amp batteries, then a body only milwaukee nail gun. Absolutely crazy. Uk based.
same here, hikoki with charger snd battery is like 700 and milwaukee is like 1k naked
Love the vids scott ive watched every single one of youre videos keep up the good work 💪💪
I will sick with the paslode because they are just so much lighter and when your carrying them around all day it makes a big difference.
What's the weight difference?
Yep I agree, they go ok into LVL, just an odd nail punch to set them. I just like them because of the weight to. I don't frame everyday, but they are good to go for most framing tasks.
Awesome video Scott!! Do you think Makita will ever come out with their version of battery powered framing nailer?!
They need and have to, now I have the full plataform of xgt 40v, and I missing a lot a table saw, cordless compressor, framing and finish nailers, that mean if they don’t release pretty’s soon I will go with hitachi/metabo/hikoki. The huge plus is ac adaptor No one have that
Thanks for the review! I have all dealt and bought the Milwaukee gun with the adapter off amazon
Nothing beats a framing coil nailer. I dislike strip nailers because their nails are smooth inst as of aggressively spiraled, they also come in the right nail sizes for almost any framing/decking/fencing application.
I've got the older paslode framer and 16 gauge nailers been taking years of abuse and stull going strong, new batteries is all i needed when they give up the ghost I'll spring for the Milwaukee but i haven't seen the gen2 16g out yet.
Excellent, funny, review. With that no-mar tip, would this gun be okay to attach weatherboards, in your 'professional' opinion? I very much rate your opinion, by the way!
A quick look at Craigslist will tell you where things are going. I live in the New York area and a search for "framing nailer" turned up one Dewalt, one metabo, no Milwaukees and LOTS of Paslodes.
For me it’s pretty simple- it really depends on what job I’m doing to what gun I pull out.
If you are framing walls all day I roll out the hose and use an Paslode air nailer- it’s light and shoots all day.
If I’m installing trusses nothing beats my Paslode gas gun, it’s super light and hangs on your belt or a truss easily, and into Pine here in Australia it’s powerful enough.
But if doing renos or small jobs like building a bath hob the battery only guns are great but way too heavy to use all day.
I’m a Dewalt man through and through but their framing gun is the pits. It’s really the only tool they do I’m not happy with.
I actually love my Dewalt battery fixing gun- the tip on it is perfect and the gun itself is almost comparable to a air gun.
Have a great Christmas everyone.
Well Scott,if you don’t release another video before Christmas may I wish you and the boys a great Christmas and New Year. Looking forward to the New Year and more great Scott Brown Carpentry video’s.👍👍👍🍻🍻🍾🍾🎉🎉
Thanks bro i have decided to go with Milwaukee 🤩🤩
I leave this under every video I watched, it helps the algorithm
Is it time to check on paerau's shed yet?
I have the Milwaukee heavy but so worth it. Hasn’t miss fired yet unlike my old passcode s
What I noticed using the Paslode vs air nailers is it seem to kick or move studs more when toe nailing. Have you noticed any difference in how the electric nailers are about this?
Both the Hikoki and Milwaukee guns are pretty heavy and that seems to lessen the kickback and help them sink the nails. The Paslode gun is about 6 lbs lighter which is nice when hanging from your belt but not when you have to pull out your hammer every time.
Why is the dislikes nearly the same amount in all the videos?. They need to remove the dislike button. Nothing to dislike about "Scott brown".. Always look forward an learn from him an his videos
Scott why didn't u go with a hikoki drop saw?- since u had the hikoki battery
2ah isn't ideal for a chop saw. Milwaukee also makes much more tools he already owns
I really need to upgrade, here I am in Canada still using a Mastercraft framing nailer and a compressor. Only thing though I haven't committed to a brand of batteries yet.
Love the Milwaukee framing nailer.
I have a lot of Milwaukee tools but also makita. Sometimes a certain brand has more of what you want in a certain tool then the other. I just buy Milwaukee batteries (they are the best) and use them with what ever other brand tool using adapters. Can use them on most tools no problem. Some of the adapters aren’t the best quality but something to keep in mind. Some even have usb ports on top so you can use the battery to charge phones etc.
I started out with the 18ga ryobi gun then added the 18ga Millwaukee and framer. I dont use or own any Millwaukee battery's , i was 100% Makita with 16 battery's till now. Just use adapters on all the different tools.
"You know how good a tool is after years." very true
A major issue with all of the 'tool reviewers' on here. They review a brand spankin new tool, not a year old hammered one that still jives like the day you bought it.
@@Jorash_Barison Exactly. I don't think you can get a full on review unless that tool has been put through it's paces. If it doesn't make it on the building site, it's a one way ticket to the skip. I did a few tool reviews, stuff still going strong after 13+ years of site use...
looks like milwaukee reached across the ocean to put their tools on TV ! I'm all milwaukee, its great stuff
The company is Techtronic Industries Company Limited and is chinese. So more neighbours then across the ocean
@@dagored100 yes yes. Rigid, Ryobi, stiletto hammers, empire measuring and marking etc... I guess I still like to think there's some actually milwaukians in there still
Hello Scott. Have you used the Senco Framer?
Could you compare that to Milwaukee, please?
I’m slightly miffed with Milwaukee about one thing: when they announced the gun, last year the numbers I saw said theirs would be 2kg lighter than the Hikoki. Then when they released it I saw numbers saying 1kg lighter. Then when I got my own it was basically the same, or in fact as you have pointed out a bit heavier than the Hikoki. Considering I had to pay more for it skin only that the Hikoki costs with a 2 battery kit, and so had to buy another tool with a 2 battery kit so I could actually use it, I’m pretty annoyed. Milwaukee tools are good quality, but I’m a poor apprentice and I would have got the Hikoki framing nailer kit if I had known all I know now.
Ps, it’s a bit of a bloody workout holding that up high to shoot nails. But at least it doesn’t misfire every 10th nail or need gas like the Paslode.
I’m a makita guy but trust me which ever platform or brand you’re on as an apprentice just know you already on one of the best of them.
I myself love my makita mainly for the ergonomics and the feel.
Makita may lack a little in power compared to the red and yellow but i don’t need 3 hands and a friend to hold onto the damn thing or a pair of multi grips just to change the battery😂
I'm not trying to be funny Philip mate but I kind feel that you could have read some reviews before shelling the money out and found that out about the weight I do get what you mean though.
You apprentices are lucky these days with all these new power tool technologies as when I was an apprentice we had to knock massive nails in by hand, I started to get tennis elbow a couple of years in.
I hope that thought enjoying carpentry though bud. 👍😀
I suppose you could say hikoki really nailed it 🙄
Humor as dry as construction timber 🙄
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You were dying to say that weren’t ya😄
@@wobler4992 sawed off!
I run dewalt battery system, but their nail guns are crap, realising that I was already running two battery systems with the paslode I went to hikoki, love it!
their (DEWALT) saws are good but I agree on the framing nailer. But for $200 less (around here) they are more for DIY'er than the professional. Most contractors I know are running Milwaukee or Makita
Excellent review!! Keep up the good work!
Thanks for sharing. Im on the milwaukee plattform so im going for the milwaukee on the next house
Paslode definitely own the market here, thanks for the review, still not sure what I'll get though haha
I love the sound of Milwaukee nailers
If u press Milwaukee nailer and hold on trigger you can keep nailing just by touching wood, instead of pushing on trigger every shot. Do other nailers do that?
I'd love to see a review of the DeWalt nailer. I'm currently trying to decide what battery platform to move to.
Milwaukee all the way. I’ve been switching over from dewalt. Especially the nailer. Dewalt makes some nice stuff but Milwaukee seems to be on top in terms of performance and reliability.
saw you this morning at PM have you tried either of the two hikoki dropsaws? with the corded battery system you only need the one dropsaw and you can use it corded or battery.
good morning. Sorry about the question.
i'd like to buy one nailer.
better to battery or air?
better Dewalt Hikoki Milwaukee?
With the tool belt hook 🪝 maybe designed for left hand guys ? I have a 165mm circular saw left side blade not right??? It's ok for me but other friends tradies Carpenters have said not my favourite.
Also to fix hook issue go see a welding/engineerimg company small firm should make a bracket in like 15 to 50 minutes
Worth the wait outfront if you have or make the time.
The gun is great, shoots nails into lvl easily. It is very powerful but heavy .
Scott try an check Amazon I believe they sell battery adapter for different batteries to different tools. Like from DeWalt to Milwaukee.
Dont forgot the dewalt Scott! Only joking, i sold mine and got the hikoki!
Just in addition to paslode impulse nail guns
I have one that’s about 18 months old,
It’s amazingly powerful compared to my old model, but it’s extremely loud as opposed to the older models .
I think it explodes more gas to get the power .
It’s noise is horrible !
I have the Hikoki and had the same problem with slipping when skew nailing, I gave the inside of the nozzle claw a touch up with a file and it is way better. Also had to make my own hook as the European version comes with the huge rafter hook. Thanks for the videos Scott, They make for great watching!
I got super lucky when I bought in to the Hitatchi (now Hikoki) line a couple years ago. It was the first battery only line I was aware of at the time and happened to be on sale at the big box store. I ended up buying four guns: framer on down to pinner. Each one came with charger and battery. Couldn't be happier. And now I see all the comparisons on youtube that verify I made a good purchase.
Was the Hitachi to Hikoki name change recent? In the US they just changed from Hitachi to Metabo about a year ago. I wonder why they use different names around the world? Dewalt, Milwaukee, etc seem to use the same name everywhere.
@@Beef4Dinner22 I should have said "Metabo HPT" instead of Hikoki. I'm in the US. My mistake.
Yeah, different names all over the place. I've seen videos with DeWalt tools that have Stanley on them. Of course, Stanley/DeWalt...one in the same.
English version of the Milwaukee looks different? I have 2 buttons on the back, 1 to turn it on, and another to switch it to bump fire 🤷🏻♂️
They are not allowed to have nail guns with bump fire. US and Canada are allowed so our guns include those features.
Excellent video. Just what I was looking for.
Strikes me tat the main advantage of no-gas guns is when the weather is cold. Paslode in cold winter days is a no-go in my experience because the gas wont fire up. Shame these battery guns are so heavy though because if they competed on weight then they’d be the go-to nailer I think
I’m abit stuck. I have dewalt everything and want to get a nailer that actually nails. So thinking out of these 2 what one should i invest into. Am leaning more towards the Milwaukee cause of the other tools on its platform I may like.. what do you guys think? Sound reasonable? Or should I just got dewalt and also use a hammer haha
I find the Milwaukee battery annoying to take off the tool sometimes. If that makes sense.
you can place it on the ground handle up and contact tip and clip on the the ground
love ya style Scott, keep up the great vids amigo!
The projectfarm channel is Awesome for technical reviews
So I'm going to be building my first house. Which is best the 21 or 30 degree ? I really don't know the difference. I see you have the 30 but others use the 21.
Why did the paslode make that strange sound when you put it down? mine does the same
My 2nd hand Milwaukee is fine with all timber except trying it on a hard oak block, it wont knock it all the way in, is this normal?
My Hikoki nailer stays on for what seems like half an hour before shutting off. Maybe fifteen minutes.
Also, you can buy a no-mar tip for Hikoki for only a few dollars, I think 8?. I bought two.
Oh, bought in NZ, fwiw.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
Milwaukee gun does stand up , put it on the deck with the nose facing downwards. Good video, would love to be a chippy in NZ