1-Ton Over The Knuckle Steering - Jeep Cherokee XJ - The Roadhouse
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2015
- Today we take on the task of installing JCR Offroad's OTK Steering.
We know it's not the easy approach, but in the end, it's the best option for strength and clearance.
Tell us what you guys wanna see in future episodes!
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5:01 "we have no plans for that thing coming off again"
steering box "am i a joke to you?"
I like these guys. Remind me of the good old days, working with my buddy in my garage, with the 12 packs.
This is great! I love this channel. I wish I would have found it sooner.
I've watched a couple of your videos. Great job fellas!!! Educational yet VERY entertaining! Keep up the good work!!
Power Addicts - Jeep, car and motorcycle tips Thanks Bud!
"looking like a newborn deer"... lol
"...goin in a DRY HOLE" ...lmao!
....... "Prrrrrrrrrt" LMFAO!!!
Congrats on the beefier steering guys, AND the extra clearance.
Keep up the great work!
OVER THE KNUCKLE STEERING! nice , hope to do this soon.
The gift that just keeps on giving.
Did you guys make the relocation bracket video yet? Getting ready to do my XJ, thanks great video's.
So glad i just found this channel!
+Austin Jolly Thanks Bud!
this channel is awesome glad I found it
pdasch0 We're glad you found it too!
Do us a favor, and help other people find it by sharing on social media.
Thanks Bud!!
Have you guys uploaded your video for the sway bar end link relocators from JCR?
Props on showing the correct way to do cotter pins...
Awesome! You guys need to make some videos of that XJ in action!
WeLiveJeep Wokin' on it Bud! Workin' on it......
Great video. Ya'll are hilarious and I love your stuff! With that said, and I know I'm just being a nitpicky hater here, but I got a few little things:
When installing the Pitman arm, CLEAN THE THREADS then threadlocker then install.
Use a box end instead of an adjustable for the tie rod end nuts.
Also, when you've got a deep socket of a decent length on a wrench and you're putting some torque on it, brace the wrench at the top of the socket so you won't side load the fastener or nut and/or round off the sides and/or have a wrench flying off and hitting your face.
Awesome walkthrough, keep it up guys, again, love your stuff and entertaining as hell. Jeep on!
We all have bad habits....
Glad you like the show though, we're doing what we can to make the DIY genre more fun.
Good one guys.....Thannkx for the chat.
+Eka Wenda
Yeah, Thanks!
We had fun!!
yall are awsome dudes... totally knarly video..
+DR Brown
Cheers Bud!
More on it's way...
A tip. DONT USE A HAND REAMER. I have the UTK from JCR, and it was a pain in the ass getting the holes the right size by hand lol. Lucky I got their steering though, first time out in the mountains I nailed a rock with the new tie rod, bent it up a bit, if it was stock it would have snapped in half
you guys drink them beers so good, I ain't even a pbr fan but damn!
Haha
Cheers!
Wish you guys would make a come back loved watching your videos
Let's see you boys go off roading!
You guys are my favorite RUclipsrs! You guys should do the easiest way to do alightment on the xj
+Austinsiphone In the works.....
With out a doubt. Gotta love these guys. I do.
All those new parts and you left the Trac bar at the wrong angle to help promote bump steer big time ,nice
Thanks for the direct, to the point step by steps and the steady camera work. Oh and being hilarious while doing it.
😄
Good video
Is that a dana 30 running 35s? Curious how well it is holding up because I really don't want to axle swap.
I miss this channel!!
You guys should do a quick overview of the custom fender flares u guys have, i wanna make a set of metal ones for my rig. Thanks
dhickey1997 We get a lot of requests for that...... guess we might have to put something together....
Where can i get some one experienced enough to install this? Looks great and sturdy! If possible ... in NYC!
So I got my JCR OTK kit installed and just got an alignment. My jeep is driving a lot better but i've noticed some bump steer. I use my 97 jeep xj as a daily driver. Is it possible to install a steering stabilizer since the old bracket is cut off? and any chance of the sway bar relocation mount video in the future? Thanks for the awesome video really helped a lot putting together this kit.
We'll be shooting that next weekend. not sure how long before it comes out though.
The stabilizer won't help bump steer. That's usually caused by differing deflection between your drag link vs your track bar. basically not traveling together but pushing away from eachother as the suspension moves up and down.
That is for that particular setup, that is...
hey i need some help my steering went off and started to unstraighten itself so i straighten it out the way you guy do and it keep going back ... i only have replace the gear box in my steering system..
Looks good guys! D30 seals would be cool mine are bad too.
B Jake pretty big job for a little rubber seal too hey....
Alright boys I just finished my JCR over the knuckle setup. I am at the same point you are at. Just need to weld up the sway bar relocation brackets. Soo I'm crackin open a beer and waiting for that video. While I was in there I went ahead and swapped my steering gearbox with the 99 Durango. Feel like I'm driving a Cadillac now.
Anthony Winters Nice Bud!
Been wanting to do the Durango upgrade. Just gotta get one first......
Hold tight. We'll get that sway bar bracket episode out for ya.
Rough Country dies a little inside with ever video you guys release. Keep up the good work!
James Wright Hahahahahahahaha!!!!
I haven't laughed that hard at a comment in a while..........
Lol, anytime! Any plans to lock those axles?
James Wright Yeah Bud.
Just not sure what to go with yet, and waiting for the budget to make it possible....
www.lokka.com I've got those front and rear on my XJ on 35s. No problems so far!
James Wright Just not sure yet if we're gonna go with a cable locker, air locker, or an auto locker........
Can you do a vid overview of how you replaced the rockers with the tubing? Plan to do it just want to see how you did it.
Amy Galer Not a video, but we did a write up before we started the RUclips thing.
Check it out here:
www.cherokeeforum.com/f46/pbr-inspired-xj-189166/index2/
I can't wait till your next upload. Do you guys have a schedule your working on or is it an as new parts come in kind of thing?
Steve O'Brien It's more about when we have the time to make an episode.....
Things have been pretty crazy this summer, but we are working to put more stuff out there.
We try to focus on quality over quantity. Thanks for your patience.....
We do have a bunch of stuff coming up.
Is clearance the only difference between under and over? Or does one work better than the other?
What drop pitman arm did you guys use? Building one ton steering rn and my drag link angle is too extreme. Running about 8” of lift.
WOW thanks for the quik reply....ok then what do ya think for a 05 jeep wrangler in the rocks.... i am looking at OX locker or a truetrac the money says truetrac but my heart says OX locker
+Allan Wagner Truetracs are great. you're less likely to break other stuff with one of those. But OX will fully lock your dif.
Think that full lock is better for mud than rocks, but I'm sure people will disagree
Great video by the way! Because of you guys i want to try PBR! They should pay you guys some money hahahaha
Ramses Valenzuela Wouldn't that be nice!!
With that money you guys can buy more parts which means More videos!!! Hahaha
Ramses Valenzuela We'd be down with that....
lol I never realized how funny you guys were until this video! Really really funny! (Meant as a compliment)
Rip...💨. 'Bout pissed myself when I heard that.
Does it make for the right hand drive one's?
Did you reuse old steering stabilizer or does this system replace a need for one at all?
Could you post a link to where I can get that pitman arm?
PBR guys ehh nasty stuff I.P.A.!!!!!!!
PBR = PROFESSIONAL BULL RIDER
Sometimes
CV axle on one side and U joint on other side? hahaha i been there man !
Went back to see, too funny
Haha just noticed
How about the bump steer bc of the angles between the t bar and drag link
Great channel guys! Have you needed to reinforce the coil buckets on the axle? or is it unnecessary?
+Carlos Miranda
don't see a need for it unless you plan on jumping it.
but in that case, coil buckets are not your biggest worry.
Would this be the same application for wj hd otk steering ?
did you guys score some new tires yet?
What about the stabilizer bracket? When I got my jeep it had 1 ton steering already on it with heim joints! But no brackets for sway bars or the steering stabilizer. How would n I do the bracket for the stabilizer?
bigb3576 There are kits out there that fit stabilizers like you would see on a 1 ton truck, that attach to the axle tube and mount to the tie rod using bolt on brackets.
You can also get kits that run dual stabilizers that bolt on in a similar way.
Front sway definitely removed ?
PBR is the ONLY beer! That ice cold, good old Red, White, & Blue! Ain't nothin like drinkin a cold brew covered in grease and dirt under ur jeep! That's how I do shit.
Is there no bumpsteer due to the track bar/drag link angles??
hey guys great videos whats your take on aussie lockers
+Allan Wagner Does the trick. Bit of gettin' used to keeping off the gas round corners, but that comes with any auto-locker.
and they're noisy as all hell.
You'd think somethings broken in there, but thats just how they work.
All and all, good in our books.
Looks like a great set up but have u guys hurd of the v8 zj steering swap? Its cheaper and uses oem parts
James Hebert Our Pals at Enlisted Budget Videos did a video on that. They didn't use all OE stuff though.
Here's a link:
ruclips.net/video/pIAOjqeJnts/видео.html
What track bar are you using?
Badass soulfly shirt
I was surprised you didnt use Rough Country........ lol looks great !
Ain't no way that's going to flex ;)
Trac bar and drag link look all outta wack, was there a problem (solution?) for this?
Are you guys using the factory pitman arm or a drop?
What size reamer bit was used?
Do you guys have a video installing the swaybar brackets?
not yet.
Will do though
I had the jcr set up and just got my ruff stuff 3/4 heim steering it's cheaper and way stronger I broke the jcr tie rods multiple times. Just my two sense. I daily my jeep and the heims have way less play and last way longer.
bro do you remember what size drill bits you used for the ruff stuff
bro do you remember what size drill bits you used for the ruff stuff steering
how's the otk steer respond for daily driving. been thinking of doing the same mod.
+Jarod Martin
It's great. Bump steer is gone.
Any issues with stock track bar axle bracket? Would be cool to see an OTA track bar video.
+Todd None yet. Thinking that if we did have issues, we'd probably beef up, or rebuild the existing bracket. OTA track bars are good for clearance, but are way shorter. There's way more tracking back and forth with the suspension as it goes in and out.
On road handling goes way out the window with an OTA setups.
You need to make more videos 😆
Where do i get the reamer and what size?
Hey! just curious, what is the install time like on this thing? Also what are your thoughts after driving around on it for awhile?
Couple of hours, give or take.
I love it. feels solid.
what size drills did u use?
Cuts sway bar mounts right off lol
Where is the video on relocating the sway bar and steering stabilizer mounting points?
Haven't made it yet. Just 'round the corner.
I have a 3" Zone lift kit, and 30" tires on 15" rims. I don't off road much, just occasionally go on trails. would you recommend OTK or UTK from JCR? I need to upgrade my steering but don't know which one is more ideal for me.
UTK is the short answer.
PM me if you need more info.
Pinion seal replacements, front d30 axle seal replacement some ideas on what to do next.
TexasRedneck Good ideas!
Both blown on our Jeep.
Pabst Boys mine too :D
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looks like you have some axle seals leaking, you should do a video on how to fix those. Just an idea. D30s have shims to set backlash, would be a great and easy video to put out. I'm sure many people have the same problem with their seals.
Witch seals?
They all leak....LOL
The axle seals right there on the front axle, they are right inside the diff where the carrier bearings are. We have a special tool to install them at work, but a 35mm socket and extensions work just as good, that's how I did mine.
Using an old bearing race works pretty good too.
where you guys at anyway ????? WE are looking at oregon I used to live there way back when
+Allan Wagner We're in BC Canada. few hours north of Washington.
Oregon is nice. always wanted to live there....
How are you not hitting your diff cover when you turn hard right
You should totally include a fart outtake in every video.
YEAH! REAM THAT PITTMAN ARM! REAM IT!
+Crossthreaded
Mmmmm,
Right in the tapered hole..
Handicorn strikes again...
How many pounds is that BFH you guys used to knock out the TRE's? That thing looked mean!
+pra3t0rian Oh Man,
Best investment! It's a 4 lb. sledge with a short handle thats reinforced by 6 spring steel rods.
The thing makes Thor blush.
Are you running a CV shaft on the passenger side and u joint on driver side?
got the Jeep that way....
you had at PBR
Hell yeah old son seweeeeeeee get-r-done
1 inch 7 degree reamer??
Hey guys I was curious. Can you run a steering stabilizer with that set up?
Bill Moser you can but you have to buy the bracket, I paid $50 for it, but its not necessary.
Bill Moser Ducks101fan summed it up.
But you will need it if you do what so many people do when they try to get a better pinion angle, adjust your caster angle in to the negative.
Stay smart.
Friends don't let friends drive Negative Caster.
so do you not need a steering stabilizer when doing this upgrade.
No you don't.
They look pretty, but not that necessary.
Wonder with all these upgrades if the jeep has death wobble
Well I bet he does no matter what upgrades you install drag link MUST be parallel with track bar ALWAYS
is this setup good for a daily driver?
Not if you're a highway commuter.
Totally street legal though. Take it to work a lot, but it's a bush toy mostly.
Why not the Iron Rock Off Road OTK steering? They come with heims aint that better?
Ramses Valenzuela Not always.
Depends on what your after. Heims have no give, and dont feel great on road.
Heims are also open to the elements, so their a lot higher maintenance.
Any bump steer issues with new angles ?
I guarantee it. The trac bar and drag link actually cross. I believe the relocated the trac bar in a later video.
how bout a video on locking diff install
+Allan Wagner got a few other things coming first, but we'll get there...
hey, when you are using a tapered reamer you should run it much slower than you have shown in the video them things are very expensive. they should only be powered by hand.
They are expensive. The key is to know how to sharpen them as well, but ain't nobody got time for turning reamers by hand.....
Nice cutter pin trick. Tidy! How long should it take to chug the break time per? You two are hilarious and sometimes informative. Thanks!
"no plans to remove the pitman arm again" my luck I would do this and need to pull it off again a week later
+balzarini51
Hahahahaha
No Doubt
Iam getting ready to put a 3in lft on my zj ill bring the beer and be over to do it guy's lol...
Hey what happens to the sway bar mourn up that would be cool to see
Working on that one soon. Been stacked with stuff
Cool was doing the over the knuckle steering on my ZJ and was seeing a good way to do my sway bar mounts
Hopefully we get that out in time....
Did you lose any steering radius? I installed it now have worse turning radius than my pick up truck. Had it at 2 different offroad shops and I Called them up with pictures of the set up and they said they don't know why
No loss. Still travels the full arc of the steering box without hitting anything else
Tzorb one thing that may affect your steeringradius is the fact you have changed your ackerman angle by a bit..